Yes they create positive feedback loop and increase instability of
the system... Also "...most of our “problems” are borne of
“culture” and not easily reversed overnight, and maybe not reversible at
all. The Romans would tell you if they were still alive today."
Why exactly does “someone have to provide liquidity”? Does he even know
what “liquidity” means?
American Heritage, 4th:
liquidity: 1) the state of being liquid; 2) the quality of being readily
convertible to cash.
So long as something is convertible to cash, it is liquid, even if the
amount of cash that it gets in conversion does not meet the expectations
of the converter.
Then what does it mean to provide “liquidity”? To provide cash? I thought
cash is what market participants brought to the table, if the market is
traded in cash and not on a barter system. There’s no reason any entity
should be expected to make up cash/liquidity shortfalls. A liquidity shortfall
is another way of saying somebody doesn’t have as much cash as they want,
and well, isn’t that piece of information a part of the whole reason for
the price-discovery mechanism that is a functioning market?
Mark
E Hoffer:
jjay,
seems a popular meme:
Slouching towards neofeudalism
“….If you really want to know why the cities and states are so broke,
then you must first ask yourself where all the money went. Was the firefighter
down the street from you buying vacation yachts for his tropical island?
Probably not.
However, the guys on Wall Street who sold your school district, county,
and state governments complicated financial derivative products are buying
yachts for their tropical islands. Maybe we should start there instead.
Detroit Mayor Dave Bing is struggling to save his city from fiscal calamity.
Unemployment is at a record 28% and rising, while home prices have plunged
39% since 2007. The 66-year-old Bing, a former NBA all-star with the Detroit
Pistons who took office 10 months ago, faces a $300 million budget deficit—and
few ways to make up the difference.
Against that bleak backdrop, Wall Street is squeezing one of America’s weakest
cities for every penny it can. A few years ago, Detroit struck a derivatives
deal with UBS (UBS) and other banks that allowed it to save more than $2
million a year in interest on $800 million worth of bonds. But the fine
print carried a potentially devastating condition. If the city’s credit
rating dropped, the banks could opt out of the deal and demand a sizable
breakup fee. That’s precisely what happened in January: After years of fiscal
trouble, Detroit saw its credit rating slashed to junk. Suddenly the sputtering
Motor City was on the hook for a $400 million tab.
But for now, the important thing is to understand that both Europe and the
United States are facing fundamental challenges to the legitimacy of, if not
the regime, then at least the manner in which the regime has handled itself.
The geopolitical significance of this crisis is obvious. If the Americans and
Europeans both enter a period in which managing the internal balance becomes
more pressing than managing the global balance, then other powers will have
enhanced windows of opportunities to redefine their regional balances.
Itzman
I must get round to reviewing 'The collapse of complex societies': It
is a model that really covers all of this territory very well.
pegnu:
it is a global political/financial/economic crisis quite right
It is time to take on the financial oligarchs and kick out the lobbyists
and special interest groups.
Excerpted with permission from Mark Cuban's "Blog Maverick" weblog:
My last two posts were designed to stimulate discussion. But let's talk about
the real problem that regulators, public companies, investor/shareholders and
traders face. The problem is that Wall Street doesn’t know what business it
is in. Regulators don’t know what the business of Wall Street is. Investor/shareholders
don’t know what business Wall Street is in.
The only people who know what business Wall Street is in are the traders.
They know what business Wall Street is in better than everyone else. To traders,
whether day traders or high frequency or somewhere in between, Wall Street has
nothing to do with creating capital for businesses, its original goal. Wall
Street is a platform. It’s a platform to be exploited by every technological
and intellectual means possible.
The best analogy for traders? They are hackers.
Just as hackers search for and exploit operating
system and application shortcomings, traders do the same thing. A hacker wants
to jump in front of your shopping cart and grab your credit card and then sell
it. A high frequency trader wants to jump in front of your trade and then sell
that stock to you. A hacker will tell you that they are serving a purpose by
identifying the weak links in your system. A trader will tell you they deserve
the pennies they are making on the trade because they provide liquidity to the
market.
I recognize that one is illegal, the other is not. That isn’t the important
issue.
The important issue is recognizing that Wall Street is no longer what it
was designed to be. Wall Street was designed to be a market to which companies
provide securities (stocks/bonds), from which they received capital that would
help them start/grow/sell businesses. Investors made their money by recognizing
value where others did not, or by simply committing to a company and growing
with it as a shareholder, receiving dividends or appreciation in their holdings.
What percentage of the market is driven by investors these days ?
...individual stocks become pawns in a much bigger
game than I feel increasingly less comfortable playing. It is a game fraught
with ever increasing risk.
The PIMCO guys (who I think are the smartest guys on the Street), talk about
a new normal as it applies to today’s state of the world economy. I think just
as important is the new normal as it applies to Wall Street.
Wall Street is now a huge mathematical game of chess
where individual companies are just pawns. This is money in the
bank for the big players like Goldman (GS),
Morgan (MS),
etc. Why ? Because the game of chess is far too complicated for 99% of the institutions
out there investing money.
Great Keynes quote that is one of the best explanations of theory of
reflexivity....
...
Let me frame my discussion of Thursday's drama in terms of two very different
views of what your strategy might be for investing in stocks. One view was articulated
by John Maynard Keynes on page 156 of his General Theory:
professional investment may be likened to those newspaper competitions
in which the competitors have to pick out the six prettiest faces from a
hundred photographs, the prize being awarded to the competitor whose choice
most nearly corresponds to the average preferences of the competitors as
a whole;
so that each competitor has to pick,
not those faces which he himself
finds prettiest, but those which he thinks likeliest to catch the fancy
of the other competitors, all of whom are looking at the problem from the
same point of view. It is not a case of choosing those which, to the best
of one's judgement, are really the prettiest, nor even those which average
opinion genuinely thinks the prettiest.
We have reached the third degree
where we devote our intelligences to anticipating what average opinion expects
the average opinion to be. And there are some, I believe, who practise the
fourth, fifth and higher degrees.
Is there an alternative interpretation of what gives a stock
value, apart from what others think that others think it might be
worth? Most assuredly there is, and the easiest way to understand
that value is to contemplate buying a stock with the intention of
never selling it, simply passing it on to your heirs, and from them
to their heirs. Is the asset, if used in this way, of any benefit to
you? Sure is, because even if you never sell the stock, you and your
heirs can expect to receive a dividend payment from the company four
times a year as long as the company stays in business.
In
what could one day be seen by
historians as a seminal speech
presented before the Paul
Volcker-chaired
Group of Thirty's 63rd Plenary
Session in Rabat, the ECB's Lorenzo
Bini Smaghi had two messages: a
prosaic, and very much expected one:
of unity and cohesion, if at least
in perception if not in deed, as
well as an extremely unexpected one,
in which the first notable discords
at the very peak of the power
echelons, are finally starting to
leak into the public domain. It is
in the latter part that Bini Smaghi
takes on a very aggressive stance
against not only the so-called
"inflation tax", or the purported
ability of central bankers to
inflate their way out of any
problem, but also slams
the recently
prevalent phenomenon of
fear-mongering by the banking and
political elite, which has become
the goto strategy over the past two
years whenever the banking class has
needed to pass a policy over popular
discontent.
The ECB member takes a
direct stab at the Fed's perceived
monetary policy inflexibility and US
fiscal imprudence, and implicitly
observes that
while the market is
focusing on Europe due to its
monetary policy quandary, it should
be far more obsessed with the US. Bini Smaghi also fires a warning
shot that ongoing divergence between
the ECB and Germany will not be
tolerated. Most notably, a member of
a central bank makes it very clear
that he is no longer a devout
believer in that fundamental, and
false, central banking religion -
Keynesianism.
First, a quick read through the
"prosaic" sections of Bini Smaghi's
letter.
Bini Smaghi, who is a member of
the executive board of the ECB, has
a primary obligation to defend the
ECB's public image in this time of
weakness and complete lack of
credibility. And so he does. When
discussing the ECB's response to the
Greek fiasco and contagion, he is
steadfast that the response,
although delayed and volatile, was
the right one. Furthermore, he
claims that the hard path Europe has
set on is the right one, as it will
ultimately right all the fiscal
wrongs, even without the benefit of
individual monetary intervention.
Ultimately, the ECB is convinced
that not letting Greece fail, either
in the form of union expulsion or
partial default, was the right
decision, as "this sill force euro
area countries to address their
fiscal positions earlier. It’s not
easy. But it will be done, because
it can be done and it has to be done
in any case. And, last but
not least, because there are no
alternatives." Alas, while
we agree that admission is the first
step on the road to recovery, the
subsequent steps will prove to be
insufficient. The imbalances in
Europe are of such great magnitude
that hoping that countries
eventually grow into their balance
sheets by way of austerity is simply
a ridiculous assumption, and as such
does not merit extended overviews.
We note this with irony, because
apparently the ECB, contrary to
elementary school rule #1, favors
quantity over quality. As the ECB
board member says:
Let me consider the arguments
put forward by those who regard
a Greek default as unavoidable.
Their first argument is
economic. The adjustment
programme is too harsh, given
the level of the debt-to-GDP
ratio reached in Greece. It will
produce a debt spiral which will
lead the country into a
recession and deflation. The
problem is made worse by the
loss of competitiveness suffered
by Greece over the last decade
and the impossibility of
devaluing the currency.
Their reasoning is generally no
more sophisticated than that.
Some analysts have put together
a few numbers to show that they
are aware of the problem. But I
have not seen a serious analysis
of the 120-page report produced
by the IMF which looks at the
various aspects of the
programme, including the impact
of the structural measures on
growth, the sustainability
analysis or other features of
the programme. Not one
review of the realism of the
assessments made by the staff of
the IMF and the Commission. In
fact, I suspect most market
analysts have not even looked at
the adjustment path for the
primary surplus which is
embedded in the programme, which
aims to reach 6% of GDP in 2015,
a level no different from the
ones that other countries in the
past have implemented to
consolidate their public
finances. It’s a level that a
number of other countries –
including some outside the euro
area – will have to achieve if
they want to stabilise their
debt. Most market analysts and
other observers have probably
not even looked at the
structural measures that are
embedded in the programme,
affecting for instance the
labour market, or at several
liberalisations, and their
impact on economic growth.
The
inefficiencies in the tax
collection system, which have
been aggravated before the
elections, have also been
overlooked. The perception that
the Greek programme will not
work looks more like an
assumption than the result of a
serious assessment.
To summarise, I wonder
which analysis is more serious
and credible: the many
one-pagers, very well publicised
– I must admit – which
probably
aim to influence the rest of the
market; or the IMF’s 120 pages
of rather tedious analysis
describing the contents of the programme, together with its
risks.
To this we ask: if a collective
brain trust is charged with the goal
seeked, and well compensated by
taxpayers, duty to put together a
1,200 page report that confirm the
primary tenets of the trust itself,
will Mr. Smaghi give it 10 times the
credibility of the ECB's report? Or
how about one million
typewriter-armed monkeys putting
together 1,200,000 page "analyses"
claiming that the Greek default is
inevitable? We hope someone has the
facilities to conduct just such an
experiment. Perhaps the futility of
such a simplistic act is the very
reason why not more than a
one-pagers is required to refute the
central bank dogma.
Thus the key axis of
contradiction emerges: the ECB is
willing to set off on the
"demonstratedly" arduous journey of
forcing its member states to right
their fiscal (income statement)
evils, yet while not acknowledging
that the key missing link, balance
sheet restructuring, is not
necessary but critical. There is a
reason why plain vanilla
restructurings focus on the balance
sheet, and not on the income
statement: a company with a fresh
start balance sheet can grow its
income statement without its debts
being a hindrance, on the other
hand, rarely if ever, do income
statements allow companies to grow
into untenable balance sheets. This
is the main flaw in the ECB's plan.
And it is these very contradictions
that force the European populace to
lose its credibility in the ECB, a
concern which even the central bank
is all too aware of.
The balance of the "prosaic" part
of the speech is along the same
lines: merely a defense of the ECB's
line of actions, driven primarily by
a direct response to the market, and
thus a very short-sighted and
reactive, instead of proactive,
policy response, which merely
invites the market to test out the
ECB's lack of resolve. And once
again, the ECB is not naive and is
fully aware of this, yet it
redirects attention to other source
of "market-test" weakness:
"Financial markets are testing each
country, one by one, to see whether
they are willing to adopt the
necessary budgetary measures,
starting with those which seem to be
facing the greatest hurdles to
consolidation." Bini Smaghi is right
and wrong here: the market will
continue testing country by country,
but not to determine fiscal resolve,
only to take advantage of the lack a
monetary one. And so from crisis to
crisis, the market will continue
reaching deeper until it finally
tests the very core of the eurozone:
Germany.
And speaking of Germany, this
brings us to the other part of Bini
Smaghi's letter. In one of the first
open shots of public confrontation,
we see that the ECB has been very
much displeased not only by rampant
fear-mongering, but by the words of
Germany's Angela Merkel, whose
recent repeat declarations that
Greece could be allowed to leave the
union, have undermined the bedrock
of the ECB. Furthermore, as the
WSJ reports, "in a rare show of
defiance for the consensus-driven
ECB, Germany's central bank head
Axel Weber told the German newspaper
Börsen-Zeitung that he viewed the
bond-buying decision "critically"
and that it carried "substantial
stability risks." Is this the type
of rancorous infighting between
Europe's two main powers, that will
seal the fate of the Eurozone
experiment far more certainly than
parliamentary stormings in Athens?
We read in Bini Smaghi's letter
the first fingerpointing of
displeasure by an ECB official aimed
squarely at Germany:
A further dimension, in the
European context, is the
difference in cultures and
sensitivities. They affect how
issues are communicated within
countries, in particular between
politicians and their
electorates. These are
differences which totally
disconcert financial markets.
For instance, in one
large euro area country it was
thought that public support for
swift action could be achieved
only by dramatising the
situation, for instance, by
telling the public that “the
euro is in danger” or by
considering the possibility of
expelling a country from the
euro area. But it was not
realised that, in the midst of a
financial upheaval, such words
are like fanning the flames and
that the cost of the support
package could only increase
following such dramatic
declarations. By
contrast, in other countries,
leaders want to be seen as being
in control of the situation and
taking all sorts of initiatives
to reassure their electorates.
The media, of course,
have a field day reporting on
such apparently inconsistent
activities.
We hope that the ECB's
displeasure by the kind of
racketeering that Americans have
grown to know and loathe, as it is
performed either openly by
politicians who directly threaten
with end of the world scenarios
every time they wish to get their
way, or indirectly, such as when the
market crashes a 1,000 points when
it appears that the Fed is on the
verge of losing its secrecy, is
espoused by more individuals and
organizations. On the other hand, we
will closely follow the now open
feud between German and Europe's
Central Bank - if past experience is
any indication, infighting between
these two will only lead to mutual
weakening, and result in an even
faster forced reorganization of
peripheral European countries, and,
eventually the euro.
In this regard, perhaps Bini
Smaghi's speech created far more
damage than damage control: now that
the public's, and more importantly,
the market's, attention is be drawn
to the duel between Germany and the
ECB, this will merely destabilize
the monetary union even more, now
that monetary and political unions,
and conflicts, are synonymous, a
point not lost on the ECB executive
himself: "As I said earlier,
monetary union is de facto a
political union."
And now that European monetary
"politics" are the center stage, we
find two other pearls in Bini
Smaghi's speech.
Not too surprisingly, the ECB is
now directly pointing a finger at
the Fed, where conventional wisdom
has long held the belief that due to
its ability to determine independent
monetary policy, backed by the
world's reserve currency, the Fed
can and always will easily inflate
its way out of any complication.
To believe that an inflation
tax can solve the problem posed
by the mounting public debt is
an illusion that some
people like to
cultivate. For several reasons.
First, people are less naïve
than some might think – they
dislike an inflation tax as much
as other forms of fiscal
adjustment. Second, it’s not so
easy to generate inflation, in
particular ‘surprise’ inflation,
without provoking a
more-than-proportional increase
in interest rates, also in light
of the
short average maturity
of public debt in most
countries.Third, a rise in
inflation, and inflation
expectations, would produce a
major upward shift in the yield
curve, inflicting major losses
on the banks and financial
institutions which have been
heavily investing in these
markets, potentially undermining
the recovery.
This is probably the best
encapsulation of the threats, or
rather threat, that another QE
episode by the Fed will bring with
it. In essence the ECB is saying
that should the Fed pursue another
QE episode, the imminent explosion
in short-end interest rates will
lead to a solvency crisis within the
US itself, monetary policy or not.
Bini Smaghi points out one very
critical truth: in not having a
reserve currency, and thus protected
by the belief that the ECB can
inflate its way out of complication,
it is forced to pursue fiscal
reform, much sooner than the US
will, which will only result in a
much greater crisis in the US, once
it becomes clear that the marginal
influence of monetary policy will be
drowned out by a sea of fiscal
imprudence. And for the one true
shining example of the latter, look
no further than the CBO's 10 year
budget deficit estimates.
In short, the impossibility
of resorting to an inflation tax
is forcing euro area
countries to tackle the burden
of public debt sooner rather
than later.In
other countries the
illusion of being able to resort
to the inflation tax might delay
the adjustment, but the longer
the treatment is postponed the
harsher it’s likely to be. End
of digression.
Was this the first shot across
the bow in the the transatlantic
central bank wars? Too bad the ECB
will be insolvent overnight if the
Fed decides to truly escalate and
pull all its swap lines tomorrow.
Why risk retaliation? This is easily
the most important question needing
answering over the next several
weeks.
Last, but not least, are the
following zingers that have no other
intent than to poke at the ever
larger holes appearing in the fabric
of that one modern false economic
religion known as Keynesianism.
In the aftermath of the
Lehman failure, governments
around the world seemed to
rediscover Keynes. They injected
huge amounts of borrowed money –
public funds – to stabilise the
economy after the shock of the
Lehman failure. These policies
worked, and averted a global
depression. The success of those
policies has led governments –
encouraged by international
organisations – to continue
using expansionary fiscal
policies to try pulling the
economy out of the recession and
getting it back to the
pre-crisis level.
The strategy is based on
a model which may turn out to be
inappropriate in the
current conjuncture.
Let me discuss some of the
underlying assumptions of the
model. First, the initial fiscal
impulse was successful in
avoiding a depression because it
helped to coordinate agents’
expectations, in the Keynesian
or Knightian way of reducing
uncertainty, thereby avoiding a
vicious circle of recession and
deflation. The direct impact on
domestic demand may have been
more modest, as shown in
countries where the size of the
fiscal stimulus was more
contained but nevertheless fared
equally well. Second, potential
growth might have been severely
affected by the crisis. As a
result, the pre-crisis
level of output, achieved in a
bubble economy, would not
represent a sustainable
objective over the
policy-relevant horizon. Third,
the level achieved by the public
debt in many countries may have
impaired the effectiveness of
further expansionary fiscal
policy.
To sum up, while the fiscal
expansion was successful
immediately after the Lehman
crisis, it may not be
sustainable over time and may
have to be corrected rapidly.
Financial markets seem
to be giving increasing
attention to this hypothesis.
And they have started to test
it.
Is this the last degree of
"religious" doubt before outright
revulsion set in and the oligarchic
heretics emerge? More so than the
question of whether or not the euro
is viable, is whether the beginning
of the end for Keynesianism is
approaching? If so, the imminent
revolution in Western world economic
thought will be unprecedented, and
the resulting global reset will lead
to a world where daily news will no
longer be dominated by headlines
about more record banker theft going
unpunished, co-opted and facilitated
by a cheaply purchased legislative,
executive and judicial system.
One of our favourite equity valuation measures, the Shiller P/E ratio,
slipped to 19.8x in May from a cycle-high 21.8x in April (the Shiller
P/E uses the 10-year average of inflation-adjusted earnings). Even still,
this metric suggests that relative to the long-run, which spans to the
1881, the market is overvalued by about 20% compared to over 30% in
April. If history is a guide, when the Shiller P/E is at these levels,
the 10-year annualized total return of equities is just over 5%
The Impact of the Irrelevant on Decision-Making, by Robert H. Frank,
Commentary, NY Times: Textbook economic models assume that people
are well informed about all the options they’re considering. It’s
an absurd claim... Even so, when people confront opportunities to
improve their position, they’re generally quick to seize them. ...
So most economists are content with a slightly weaker assumption:
that people respond in approximately rational ways to the information
available to them.
But behavioral research now challenges even that more limited
claim. For example, even patently false or irrelevant information
often affects choices in significant ways. ...
Lafayette :
PRETTY SILLY
{So most economists are content with a slightly weaker assumption:
that people respond in approximately rational ways to the information
available to them. }
No, not even this is adequate. More so, it does not justify
the use of Disposable Income, aka Consumer Demand. (If you don't
know why this is important, than maybe you are in the wrong
blog?)
People's decision making can be tweaked around the irrational
- and easily so. Impulse buying is one such tweaking that marketing
experts employ with amazing usefulness. When you arrive at the
check-out of a supermarket, why is there an array of sweets
available for your delight. Or the latest "People" journal?
Why aren't these products in their proper section? (Two reasons
actually, the first of which is that they are "impulse purchases"
and secondly they could otherwise likely go unnoticed.)
Thus, impulse and not rational propel you to purchase them -
and this is just the simplest of examples.
Conspicuous Consumption has the
same motivation that propels one to buy a Beemer or lunch at
the most expensive restaurant in town. One MUST be seen only
in the right places. Are these impulses rational?
Some would say yes, particularly if they lived in Hollywood,
where they are conforming to a lifestyle that is all appearance
and little substance. But what is their economic utility as
consumption? That is considerably more difficult to substantiate.
(Far more so than, say, a Public Option for decent national
Health Care insurance.)
Thus arises the pitfall of economic rationalization as regards
our motivations that propel Demand. It ennobles mankind to assume
that individual decisions were based uniquely upon logic and
rationale. But, alas, those are not the only attributes underlying
human decision making. There are others far more base that also
propel us to demonstrate some pretty silly consumer behaviour.
While I can agree with the main thrust of the argument; to label as
science the on-and-off-again twenty year Anglo-Saxon campaign to kill the
Euro is quixotic at best even if recently this campaign has been leaving
some dark blue marks across the eurozone’s face. One area where I still
hold suspicions though are the Dutch and German banks who bought all that
subprime crap from Wall Street. Were they really just stupid euro-country
bumpkins or was it more than that? The jury is still out on that one.
A disconcerting tendency that may
also impair adaptability (and this
seems to be particularly pronounced
in the US) is the tendency to engage
in black and white thinking. If
(in someone’s mind) the only alternative
to one view is its polar opposite,
that makes it hard to adjust one’s
perspective.
Ars technica presents a more
specific example of this phenomenon,
of how people defend their mental
models in the face of confounding
evidence. A study from the Journal
of Applied Social Psychology looked
into some of the mechanisms that
individuals use to reject scientific
information that is at odds with
their views. Admittedly, this is
a small scale study, so one has
to be cautious in generalizing from
it. But it does seem consistent
with some of the strategies I routinely
seem in comments.
It’s hardly a secret that
large segments of the population
choose not to accept scientific
data because it conflicts with
their predefined beliefs: economic,
political, religious, or otherwise.
But many studies have indicated
that these same people aren’t
happy with viewing themselves
as anti-science, which can create
a state of cognitive dissonance.
That has left psychologists
pondering the methods that these
people use to rationalize the
conflict.
A study published in the
Journal of Applied Social Psychology
takes a look at one of these
methods, which the authors term
“scientific impotence”—the decision
that science can’t actually
address the issue at hand properly.
It finds evidence that not only
supports the scientific impotence
model, but suggests that it
could be contagious. Once a
subject has decided that a given
topic is off limits to science,
they tend to start applying
the same logic to other issues…
Munro polled a set of college
students about their feelings
about homosexuality, and then
exposed them to a series of
generic scientific abstracts
that presented evidence that
it was or wasn’t a mental illness
(a control group read the same
abstracts with nonsense terms
in place of sexual identities).
By chance, these either challenged
or confirmed the students’ preconceptions.
The subjects were then given
the chance to state whether
they accepted the information
in the abstracts and, if not,
why not.
Regardless of whether the
information presented confirmed
or contradicted the students’
existing beliefs, all of them
came away from the reading with
their beliefs strengthened.
As expected, a number of the
subjects that had their beliefs
challenged chose to indicate
that the subject was beyond
the ability of science to properly
examine. This group then showed
a weak tendency to extend that
same logic to other areas, like
scientific data on astrology
and herbal remedies.
A second group went through
the same initial abstract-reading
process, but were then given
an issue to research (the effectiveness
of the death penalty as a deterrent
to violent crime), and offered
various sources of information
on the issue. The group that
chose to discount scientific
information on the human behavior
issue were more likely than
their peers to evaluate nonscientific
material when it came to making
a decision about the death penalty.
Yves here. I’m not certain whether
the authors are being tongue in
cheek in this section:
….it might explain why doubts
about mainstream science seem
to travel in packs. For example,
the Discovery Institute, famed
for hosting a petition that
questions our understanding
of evolution, has recently taken
up climate change as an additional
issue (they don’t believe the
scientific community on that
topic, either). The Oregon Institute
of Science and Medicine is best
known for hosting a petition
that questions the scientific
consensus on climate change,
but the people who run it also
promote creationism and question
the link between HIV and AIDS.
Yves again. It is worth considering
whether some of this “science can’t
evaluate this area” meme exists
is at least in part because it is
being marketed. Perhaps I lead a
cloistered life, but when I was
younger, say 20 years ago, I can’t
recall encountering this line of
argument.
The book Agnotology: The Making and Unmaking
of Ignorance gives a detailed
account of how the tobacco industry
first tried to keep research about
smoking-related cancers out of the
public eye, and when that started
to fail, to attack the science (”Doubt
is our product”). One of its late-stage
techniques was to promote the idea
that the topic wasn’t settled when
a tally of the then-available research
would say otherwise. Given that
knowledge is often the product of
political and cultural battles,
promoting higher-order anti-science
ideas (”science has very considerable
limits, there are a lot of areas
outside its ken”) gives those who
would seek to reshape mass opinion
more freedom of action.
attempter:
For instance, early in the days of euro wobbliness, some readers
in Europe would go a bit off the deep end at the suggestion that
the Eurozone has serious structural weaknesses and that the austerity
regimes required of the deficit countries looked unattainable (and
even if they could be met, success would be a Pyrrhic victory).
It wasn’t so much that these readers found weaknesses or shortcomings
in the post; it’s that its conclusion was clearly deeply offensive
to them.
Yes, it’s true that many people find the proposition morally
deeply repulsive that the non-rich, already beleaguered by job destruction
and the shredding of the safety net, should be crushed by “austerity”
in order that the banks can be bailed out and
the rich can continue evading taxes,
such that even if there were reason to believe this
course of action would bring broad prosperity 20 years from now
they’d still reject the idea.
Of course neoliberalism has been
dominant for c. 40 years now, and that broad “prosperity” remains
just as much a vapor on the horizon today as it ever was, except
to the extent that a debt ponzi scheme could temporarily prop up
a version of it.
The fact is that we know by now, empirically, that neoliberalism’s
version of the “sacrifice today so we’ll have utopia tomorrow” lie
is the exact same Big Lie as when any other ideology or regime told
it. We know for a fact that prosperity will never “trickle down”,
and that it was never intended to trickle down.
So by now anyone who rejects the predatory prescriptions of the
kleptocracy is acting based on the overwhelming evidence,
therefore “scientifically” for purposes of this discussion, while
anyone who still retains faith in trickle down is truly mired in
a cult fundamentalist mindset.
So much for the proposition that broad-based prosperity can be
attained by continuing down the neoliberal path. As for whether
exponential debt can be forever zombified under any circumstances,
let alone whether reality-based growth could ever again be attained,
it’s the physics of energy which says No, while the cornucopianism
of debt and energy is always reduced in the end to the religious
proposition, “technology will save us; technology will always find
a way”.
So there too, whatever emotions may go into the skeptical mindset,
science is not on the side of the pollyannas.
Technology did not in fact find much of a way (by modern standards)
prior to the fossil fuel age, and a scientifically sober mindset
would start with the theory that it will not be able to sustain
anything like this level of energy consumption and massive, top-heavy,
high-impact centralization post-Peak Oil.
And then there’s every other resource limitation. There’s the
stark unreality of the very concept of exponential growth. Really,
it’s hard to imagine a less scientific mindset than that which believes
there’s a way to “grow” out of this already absurdly unsustainable
predicament.
JimS :
I think there is a difference between being anti-science with
a small “s” and being anti-Science with a capital “S”. Few would
argue that 2+2=4, but theoretical physicists seem to be evenly divided
on string theory. Paradoxically the bigger the picture is, the more
binary the beliefs. This is not due to disagreement with the data
points but with the underlying principles. Consider the following
familiar exchange:
Student: “I’ve run the regression analysis, and here is my model.”
Professor: “Very good, but are you sure you’ve identified all
the variables that might be significant?”
People don’t question individual mechanisms; it’s whether or
not the right mechanisms are being accounted for. In that sense
the datum is irrelevant.
What do skeptics and good scientists have in common? They both
question if all the significant variables have been found.
As for denial, well, people are fundamentally irrational–that
is to say we are only rational to a certain point–but on top of
that we’re less educated. A friend of mine observes that he learned
debate in school, but not logic from which to debate. It seems to
me that education is more formulaic these days, sacrificing critical
thinking (even though all text books have those grey-background
“critical thinking” boxes).
For the record, as a Christian I do not find God and evolution
to be mutually exclusive; nor God and quantum physics for that matter.
Can God bake a potato so hot that He can’t eat it? Is Schrödinger’s
cat dead or alive?
Kevin de Bruxelles:
While I can agree with the main thrust
of the argument; to label as science the on-and-off-again twenty
year Anglo-Saxon campaign to kill the Euro is quixotic at best even
if recently this campaign has been leaving some dark blue marks
across the eurozone’s face. The fact is economics
is nothing more than religion. And sure, like most religions it
certainly contains some nuggets of wisdom. But to pretend that economics
and the recent attacks on the euro has anything approaching objectivity
is quickly proven wrong by the fact that similar data points in
the US or UK are handled differently. For example where are the
outcries of the break-up of the dollarzone since California and
other US states are imposing austerity programs? Should the mid-western
states that have growing ghost towns break off a hillbilly dollar?
When the euro goes up it is a sign of disaster, when the euro goes
down it is also a sign of disaster. When European trade increases
it is called “beggar thy neighbour”; but when the eurozone by its
very nature does not allow “beggar thy neighbour” between its members
it is called an suboptimal currency area.
According to Robert Nozick, one cannot have knowledge of something
if one does not accept that the opposite could also be true. For
the eurozone critics it would go like this:
1.Statement Y: The eurozone is doomed to failure
2.Person X believes Y (the eurozone is doomed to failure)
3.If Y were false (the eurozone were not doomed to failure),
Person X would accept the eurozone is viable if it were so.
4.If statement Y is true, Person Y would believe it.
Nozick uses the example of a father who “knows” his son is innocent
of a crime. After the trial the father cannot really say he “knew”
his son was innocent since if the kid had been found guilty he would
still have believed him innocent. The same is true of some eurozone
critics; they have “known” the eurozone would fail and they will
keep on knowing it until the day it eventually happens, one way
or the other. They can never accept that the eurozone could survive
because this would blunt the force of their attacks. But this doesn’t
mean that their critiques are false. For example some critics quite
correctly point out that the European financial architecture is
flawed. But the second anyone moves towards correcting any flaws,
these critics will immediately scream about eurozone fascism. The
point is that the many of the attacks are only meant to help bring
the eurozone down. Other onslaughts against the euro are by the
mouthpieces of Anglo-Saxon elites who are more concerned that European
style social democracy never again raise its head in the US. They
were scared by the recent health care debate where America’s unjust
and inefficient health care system was openly compared to the more
advanced and fair European systems. Anyone who knows how well the
rich in America are cared for can understand why they don’t want
to share any of their advantages with any other social class. The
next time any American compares their social benefits to Europe
they will be slapped down by the fact that the Euro has obviously
collapsed all the way back to the midpoint of its historic value
range.
No the battle of the Euro cannot be studied by science any more
than the Eastern Front in WW2 could be. The way it has to be studied
is as a power struggle.
And as a media campaign the only comparison in recent memory
was the wall of noise heard before the invasion of Iraq. The only
remaining question is which Anglo-Saxon economist will get to play
Colin Powell and make the requisite speech before the UN giving
Europe an ultimatum to dismantle the eurozone? And yes some euro-symps
lash out and get angry by these insistent attacks on the euro. And
this is understandable since arguably the eurozone’s recent troubles
started when European banks started barebacking loads of infected
American subprime paper from their Wall Street beaus. In more vulgar
terms the US has given Europe the financial equivalent of a sexually
transmitted disease and now as the eurozone’s sores and scabs become
more apparent the Anglo-Saxon press is shouting with glee about
what a skanky debt-ho Europe is! And as a result of the growing
Anglo-Saxon infection Europe’s financial immune system is weakening
and has to undergo some pretty drastic procedures, the shaming and
ridicule has risen to a fever pitch.
But while outrage is understandable, people in Europe really
need to put their energy into counterattacks and building defences
while always understanding that the most natural thing in the world
is for the powerful Anglo-Saxons to attack the less powerful Europeans.
Thucydides described it well in the Melian Dialogue. The more powerful
Athenians decided they were going to invade the island of Melos.
They sent a delegation there to convince the local leaders to surrender.
One of the arguments they used was:
For ourselves, we shall not trouble you with specious pretences-
either of how we have a right to our empire because we overthrew
the Mede, or are now attacking you because of wrong that you have
done us- and make a long speech which would not be believed; and
in return we hope that you, instead of thinking to influence us
by saying that you did not join the Lacedaemonians, although their
colonists, or that you have done us no wrong, will aim at what is
feasible, holding in view the real sentiments of us both; since
you know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only
in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they
can and the weak suffer what they must.
In the end the Melians declined to surrender and they were subsequently
overrun by the Athenians, who killed all the men, and raped some
and enslaved all of the women and children.
So Europe has to decide whether it will stand up and fight for
the Euro or weakly submit to the Anglo-Saxon attacks. European energy
should not go into being outraged by the attacks on the eurozone
since this reeks of naivety. Better that the hard decisions be taken.
Since WW2 Europe has played the undisciplined child to the US’ parental
role. Since Europe is still more or less living under the US’ roof
is it wrong for the US to call the shots like abandoning the Euro?
Is Europe ready to finally grow up, become fully independent move
out and the US’s comfortable and protective house? It will be questions
like this, not science, that will decide if the eurozone survives
or not.
For example what would be the best European counterattack to
the Anglo-Saxon onslaught? Exporting deflation? Perhaps. Which of
the main global economic blocks is balanced and stable enough to
come through a good bout of deflation? The US – never. China – hardly.
Japan – perhaps. Europe – probably.
Kevin de Bruxelles at 6:29 am:
Yves,
But as I said in my first sentence I agree with your arguments.
In fact the Robert Nozick quote reinforces what you are saying.
What separates science from belief is that in science you must allow
for the possibility that you are wrong. In the world of belief there
is no possibility of being wrong.
The only thing I objected to was the idea that economics was
science and that therefore the euro vultures have objectivity on
their side. But I see you have cleared this up. Since we are currently
seeing a form of economic war and my fortunes for better or worse
are locked into one side of this war, I was just trying to point
out that it will be the principles of power which will determine
who is right or wrong in the case of the euro, not science.
But viewed from a point of view of power, is it better to obstinate
in your beliefs or to waver and prevaricate? Was Churchill wrong
to disregard the power of Germany and hold out? It was not very
scientific of him. Was Lincoln wrong to continue to battle the South
after years of frustration and defeat? In the world of power and
conflict true believers are sometimes required. Taken too far this
type of rigidity will destroy a culture or movement. The best analogy
I can think of is that obstinacy can serve as the reinforcing bars
of the concrete of a society or organization at war. Too many reinforcing
rods destroys the integrity of the culture just as quickly as too
few. As with so much of life it is all a question of balance. So
from a strategic point of view there is logic for both sides of
the Euro war to stay locked into their positions but at the same
time they must remain flexible to adapt to the ebbs and flow of
the conflict.
People often demand their leaders show some spine. I only hope
European leaders will muster some and show both a little irrational
exuberance as well as some strategic smarts in defending the euro.
Kevin de Bruxelles:
Thanks AJ and I agree with your comment on the continuum.
Where I get frustrated with economists and some critics of the Euro
is that they use floating and ever shifting criteria for their attacks.
For example they decry deflationary austerity plans for Greece which
try to correct obvious economic overshooting during the past ten
years. But then they turn around and openly suggest Greece leave
the eurozone. This would mean that the value of Greece as a whole
would be cut in half (except their outstanding debt if there is
any remaining). This would be wildly deflationary; Greek purchasing
value would be cut in half! But of course Greek assets would also
become dirt cheap and the vultures would flood in and buy up anything
worthwhile in the new drachmas. Then they also say Greek could print
its own money and export its way to full employment. But when the
euro drops in value its all about beggaring thy neighbour and that
the rest of the world will never buy all that olive oil.
But there are other economists who do use consistent criteria and
do not necessarily have an ulterior agenda behind their words. These
economists can indeed approach the level of science and European
leaders would be wise to listen to them.
DownSouth:
Kevin de Bruxelles,
I very much dislike your framing of the issue.
If Europe opts for austerity, which I and many of the posters
on this blog believe will rip Europe asunder; it seems to me this
is something Europe is doing to itself.
Your framing of the issue as European
vs. Anglo-Saxon draws the battle lines in the wrong place. This
is really a battle between rank and file Europeans vs. Europe’s
financial elite.
Now granted, deficit hawkishness has been a permanent fixture
of Anglo-Saxon thought. So I suppose
if one wants to take the blame-the-Anglo-Saxon game to the next
level, one could allege Anglo-Saxon cultural imperialism.
But one must recall that it was a couple of immigrants from Europe—-Mises
and Hayek—-who were most responsible for austerity’s revival, and
this in the wake of lessons that we should have learned from the
WWI-Great Depression-WWII era.
It is certainly true that the beliefs of Mises and Hayek are
presented as “science,” and this claim to science gives them more
cache than they would otherwise have. But you yourself said: “What
separates science from belief is that in science you must allow
for the possibility that you are wrong.”
Hayek’s and Mises beliefs are based on a phenomenon that happened
in Europe in the first part of the 20th century, specifically in
the Weimar Republic. They took this very limited amount of evidence
and made sweeping generalizations. And then, when evidence mounted
that these sweeping generalizations were wrong, or at least inadequate,
did the Austrians admit they were wrong? No, quite the opposite,
their original conclusions merely ossified into an unshakable dogma.
Is this science?
This is not the first time that truth,
or the quest for truth, has been sacrificed on the altar of specious
political, philosophical and economic conceits, nor will it be the
last time. But is the fact that this happens reason to abandon the
quest for truth?
Kevin de Bruxelles:
DS,
My framing of the Anglo-Saxon / European
conflict was based over the assault on the Euro.
For the most part, besides a few European commentators working for
Anglo-Saxon media organizations, the attacks on the Euro are from
Anglo-Saxon sources.
But let me address your concerns on austerity. First of all, I totally
understand where you are coming from. In Latin America or even America
I would be against austerity programs. Austerity in an unfair society
is unfair. But conversely, austerity in a just and fair society
can very well be fair.
The question I would ask is whether the people in general have benefited
from the previous good times? If so, if GINI scores are low, if
benefits and salaries have been rising, then it is fair that austerity
hits all classes. If all classes rise in the good times then they
have to fall back together some in the bad times. But at the end
of the cycle all classes will hopefully be better off than before.
But in America where the rich have been rising and the poor falling
even in the good times is it fair to ask the poor to take the austerity
hit alone? Hell no.
And believe me, I speak from experience about austerity. As an architect
we live these cycles harder than most. During the goods times we
are flying around doing towers in places like Moscow, creating insane
mixed-use complexes in Dubai, doing huge housing complexes in London,
off to Rio for a corporate campus, doing entire cities in China,
next to Switzerland for some filthy rich international organization’s
headquarters, etc. And you can be sure that during these times we
try to push our still modest salaries up as high as we can and push
to get nice bonuses. But then all of a sudden the recession hits
and fifty percent of our colleagues are laid off. Those that survive
get automatic 10% pay cuts, bonuses become ancient memories (which
means a total of 25% pay cut) and we get excited to have the most
humble sort of project to work on. In other words its winter time
but the cycle of life goes on. Spring will eventually come and the
cycle starts over again. As the days start to get sunnier, many
of those colleagues come back. Some of the cool projects get the
go ahead, and the 10% salary cut finally gets rescinded.
It’s currently economic winter in Europe but it is still fundamentally
a fair and just society. So everyone must pull together to get through
these trying times.
One area where I still hold suspicions
though are the Dutch and German banks who bought all that subprime
crap from Wall Street. Were they really just stupid euro-country
bumpkins or was it more than that? The jury is still out on that
one.
Hugh:
About 30 years ago, I realized that religious fundamentalism
was on the rise in all the world’s major religions in botht the
East and the West. I decided that it
was less a return to traditional morals and more a flight from uncertainty.
If you know what the truth is than you don’t have to suffer the
insecurity of doubt. If your life is constantly being assaulted
by economic and ideological forces beyond your control then embracing
religious dogma can give you something to fix your life to. It can
give you a kind of inner peace of mind, even as it sets you in conflict
with everyone who does not believe as you do. It is not so much
a rejection of the materialism of modernism (though there can be
some of that) as the chaos and disempowerment associated with it.
And in this regard science is the symbol of modernism, and hence
the main target of those disenfranchised by it.
Now there can be counterweights to this, social progress for
one with its greater material benefits, equality, fairness, and
stability. But in the last 30 years what we have seen is only some
increased material benefits and marked declines in all the others.
Why has this been the case? Because our peculiar form of modernism
has given rise to predatory elites. Chaos, uncertainty, insecurity,
dislocation, these are not unavoidable, inevitable aspects of modernism.
They are tools of our elites to shock us into numbness and inaction.
They are meant to make us feel powerless. Our elites only think
in the short term and about themselves. Good government and social
progress take work. How much easier to loot a population permanently
in shock. How simple to take up and espouse their fears, their anti-modernism,
their anti-science, to keep them divided and ripe for the plucking.
Joseppi:
Monetary theology is alive and well today as Ponzi preachers
testify that god is prosperity and those chosen through their good
works and predatory cleverness will inherit the spoils from the
meek on earth.
Like Manna from heaven, money is created like a mirage in the desert
as a gift from the elites with kleptomaniac powers that can steal
money from the heavens and we, salt of the earths, humbly implore
them to keep it comin’ at any cost.
Today, even as the lords of financial soothingly pontificate, our
financial fidelity is being tested in the rough seas of structural
chaos that only those with desperate faith are blinded by the increasing
waves and graphs of grief, while those with theological doubts look
to the ancient relic of barbarians and how to grow herbs for profit.
The great existential question of the moment is should we wait until
the Red Sea parts or should we all get together and prepare for
a Tsunami?
john bougearel:
Yves poses the question: “When dissonant facts start showing
up, is it that the data is suspect or the model that is out of whack?”
Generally speaking, from empirical observation, the pro-cyclical
[and other] models employed by the financial industry over the past
20-30 years proved to have been flawed. These flaws were readily
exposed by counter-cyclical data.
I would suggest looking at the models and their frameworks when
dissonant facts start showing up. Unfortunately, human nature is
not naturally predisposed towards “bayesian updating” when new info
contradicts. Not only is it naturally predisposed to ignore new
information, most folks are hard-wired to not just ignore new info
but to vehemently deny and discredit new contradictory facts. Global
warming science is a good example of folks vehemently discrediting
and denying new contradictory facts.
There are three planes of thinking in this world, linear, sequential
and configural. Most folks do well with the first two, but configural
thinking gets much more complex. Could the tendency towards black
and white thinking make it difficult to incorporate new and contradictory
info into one’s worldview framework? Certainly it could.
Crippled banking systems tend to bring on deflations. And
crippled banking systems seem to result from the bursting of
asset bubbles because of the sharp decline in the value of the
collateral backing bank loans.
–Paul Kasriel, Northern Trust[1]
We are on the brink of one of the worst commercial real estate
financing markets ever. The banks are healing now, but the (CRE)
industry is about to smack them next.
--Phillip Blumberg, CEO Blumberg Capital[2]
A thing long expected takes the form of the unexpected when
at last it comes.
--Mark Twain
Though commercial real estate (CRE) has long been viewed by analysts
as the “next shoe to drop,” it has been downplayed as an issue in recent
months. "Commercial real estate is a train wreck, but it's already happened,"
the illustrious Jamie Dimon of JP Morgan Chase (JPM)
said during a company-sponsored conference in January. He pointed to
the 38% drop in CRE prices since 2007.
In early April, Alan Greenspan reiterated that argument: “With prices
already down and adjusted, if we were going to get severe secondary
reactions, they would have occurred, and they would have occurred if
it weren’t for the fact that the rest of the economy is showing some
degree of buoyancy.”[3]
Indeed he could point to a 1% uptick in overall CRE prices for January,
the last month that had been reported. Delivered on March 22 by Moody's/REAL
Commercial Property Price Index, the number capped two prior up months
and suggested that --after 13 months of consecutive declines— the market
was finally turning.
So did it?
In a word: no. The rebound suggested by January’s number never really
materialized. In fact, January has been followed by two months of declines.
The Moody's/REAL CCPI registered a 2.6% drop in February. March registered
a .5% drop overall, with slight upticks for apartments and warehouses
offset by significant declines in office (-3.2%) and retail (-4.7%)
property prices. Commercial property values are now down 44% since the
peak of October 2007.[4]
Other salient data points also look negative. The office vacancy
rate rose to 17.2% in the first quarter of 2010, a level unseen since
1994. “Effective rent” in the last months of 2009 was 7.4% lower from
a year earlier.[5] And compared to fourth quarter 2009, 1Q 2010 retail
property prices for the top ten metro areas dropped 19%.
So what does it all mean? I will try to sketch out the impact that
the commercial real estate bust will have on both our banking system
and the economy more generally. I also will tease out those factors
unique to the industry that might make the bust far more severe than
anticipated.
... ... ...
Because commercial real estate loans typically have five-year terms,
the industry’s loans are continuously being refinanced. The problem
is that loans made at the height of the boom -- 2005 to 2008 -- were
based on inflated asset values and often “easy” origination terms. Up
until now, very few of these “boom era” loans have reached maturity
--though the delinquency rate on all CRE loans is up.
So, what exactly is the magnitude of the problem? The total value
of outstanding commercial real estate-backed loans in the US stands
at $3.7 trillion. Between 2010 and 2014, about $1.4 trillion of these
loans will mature and need to be refinanced. As the following graph
suggests, the destructive height of this loan tsunami crests in 2012-2013:
Nearly half of the loans are presently “underwater” – i.e. the borrower
owes more than the underlying property is currently worth. Commercial
property prices have fallen more than 44% since the height of 2007.
Vacancy rates, which now range from 8% for multifamily housing to
17.2% for office buildings, are at levels not seen since 1994.
Rental rates fell an average of 0.8% in the first quarter of 2010,
a less steep decline than seen last year. Asking rent fell 4.2% from
a year earlier. Add in months of free rent and landlord contributions
to space improvements for each tenant, and “effective rent” of 1Q 2010
was way down from the year before. And that pressure will likely to
continue for six more quarters. According to Reis Director of Research
Kyle MacLoughlin:
“As the labor markets stabilize we expect occupancies and
rents to require another 12 to 18 months before showing signs
of improvement, given the typical lags in commercial real estate.”[6]
PricewaterhouseCoopers also suggests that
commercial real estate vacancies will increase in 2010.
So even if the recovery began last quarter, rents on CRE will “suck
fumes” well into 2011 and perhaps 2012. These pressures already are
choking operating incomes, causing defaults even before the re-financing
crucible.
.... ... ...
The Weapons of Mass (Bank) Destruction:
So what will make the commercial real estate market of 2011-14 so
devastating? Here are the three main issues:
1. Falling Operating Income As noted above, increasing
vacancy rates and falling rental prices pressure all existing loans.
Decreased cash flows will affect the ability of borrowers to make required
loan payments. As vacancy rates climbed in some cities a full two years
after the 2001 recession, it would not be unlikely to see a similar
momentum this time. ....
2. Few lenders / more stringent underwriting standards
The frothy “easy liquidity” period (2004 – 2007) resulted in the
origination of many commercial real estate loans based on weak underwriting
standards. These loans assumed overly aggressive rental or cash flow
projections sustainable under bubble conditions.... Offering more loan
for less collateral, these are analogous to the famous “Alt-A” residential
loans. ....
3. Falling Property Prices / Wrecked LVT Ratios
This factor is the most punishing, and may cripple the economic prospects
of the next decade.
Falling commercial property values result in higher “loan-to-value”
ratios, making it harder for borrowers to refinance under current terms
regardless of the soundness of the original financing, the quality of
the property, and whether the loan is performing.
The collateral is worth less than it was
a few years back, placing the loan out of contention for refinancing.
The owners are essentially locked out.
As one example makes clear, refinancing becomes impossible:
Adjusted property value: $80 million (down from
$123 million in 2007) Loan amount to be refinanced: $80 million Maximum LTV ratio: 65 percent Maximum new loan amount: $52 million (65 percent of
$80 million) Shortfall: $28 million Result: impending bankruptcy[7]
All of the fundamentals of a good commercial real estate investment
may still be intact – fully occupied, good tenants, positive cash flow,
“location-location-location,” etc. The problem is not inherent to the
building itself. It is the new pricing environment, but it's still deadly.
...
Goldman Sachs forecasts that the average commercial LTV ratio will
reach 117 percent by 2010 and that 81 percent of commercial borrowers
will be looking at negative equity.[8] PricewaterhouseCoopers
also suggests commercial property prices will ultimately fall further,
dropping from today’s 42% to a full 50% of the 2007 highs.
This gives owners an incentive to simply walk away and cede an underwater
asset to the bank, creating another terrible liability for the banks.
Death by a Thousand (Deflationary) Cuts: CRE’s Impact on America’s
Regional Banks
Liquidity is a function of two factors, money supply and collateral.
But the impact of available collateral is far more critical to maintaining
liquidity than the money supply. A decline in the value of the entire
asset base of the US Commercial real estate sector will have a real
effect on banks. The Japanese experience is clear:
“When the bubble burst, the debtors could not keep current
on their loans and turned back the collateral to the banks.
The market value of the collateral was less than the amount
of the loan outstanding, thereby inflicting huge losses of capital
on the Japanese banks. With the decline in bank capital, the
banks could not extend credit to the private sector, even though
the Bank of Japan was offering credit to the bank at very low
nominal rates of interest.”[9]
As residential lending and the CDO conveyor belt became a key part
of the big banks’ profit center, the smaller regional players could
not keep up. So instead they funded local commercial real estate projects.
The big investment banks did some CRE, but only for the most prestigious
projects.
So the coming CRE crisis will not implode Wall Street high rollers
like Lehman or AIG. Unlike the residential mortgage meltdown or the
derivatives blow-up, commercial property loans will hit the regional
banks, not the big 20. And as 70% of total banking assets sit with the
top 100 banks, the international financial system will thus stay intact.
The center will hold.
But the “vast periphery” -- the 8,088 smaller banks -- will be ravaged.
And these smaller banks are responsible for 40% of small business loans.
This is one of the main reasons that bank failures in 2010, 2011, and
2012 will be likely higher than 2009’s total of 140. As the chart from
the preceding page suggests, a total of 2,988 Banks have been flagged
with “CRE Concentrations” by the US government. Banks will continue
to take on a defensive stance, bracing for this new wave of debt deflation
to hits their shorelines.
They will not be able to lend.
At present, the banks have been reluctant to mark down the value
of their CRE assets. Goldman Sachs estimates that banks are still carrying
the commercial mortgages at an average of 96 cents on the dollar.[10]
This might not be a problem for big banks with low CRE exposure – say
Citibank (C),
at only 3% of all loans. But regional banks out West look vulnerable:
Las Vegas-located Western Alliance Bancorp (WAL)
has 65% of its loans in CRE; Zions Bancorp (ZION)
in Salt Lake City has 56%; Fifth Third Bancorp (FITB)
has over 50% exposure. The list goes on.
The “stress testing” conducted last year was only for the 19 major
financial institutions and their capital reserves were examined only
through the end of 2010. The hungry, boom-town regional banks in places
like Atlanta or Phoenix were never subjected to anything remotely like
a stress test, and nothing that looked out to 2014.
A recent Congressional Oversight Panel calls for such assessments.
The February report stated that for the nation’s roughly 7,000 community
banks, those with less than $10 billion in assets, the average CRE exposure
equals 288% of total risk-based capital.
To put that baldly:
The average community bank has about $3 in commercial real estate
loans for every $1 set aside to cover possible losses. And
the collateral for those loans just lost half their value.
Conclusion:
There is a commercial real estate crisis on the horizon,
and there are no easy solutions to the risks commercial real
estate may pose to the financial system and the public.
--Congressional Oversight Panel, Feb. 2010
Bonds, real estate, and pension funds, ultimately, are all
collateral – the primary engine of liquidity. Over the long-term,
the only way to stabilize the value of collateral is to establish
a sustainable positive cash flow.
--Edward Ring, CIV FI
So how bad will it be?
To put this in a global context, many regions around the world are
already dealing with commercial vacancies of 15-20%. The US is not alone.
And there was not the predatory lending or insane “CDO squared” dicing
that complicated the residential loan market. This market is mostly
whole loans and some overpriced paper, so the bank wounds will be “clean
cuts.” But they will be deep and they will be inflicted on the smaller
players.
According to Real Capital Analytics,
there are already 10,100 troubled commercial properties worth more than
$205 billion in the US. That number will obviously rise
as we hit the “refinancing” period of 2011 – 2014. Over the next few
years, their report states, the banks alone could experiences losses
nearing $300 billion.[12]
In this scenario, hundreds more community
and mid-sized banks will face insolvency. These banks
play a vital role in financing the small businesses that provide the
majority of new job creation in the US. Their widespread failure will
further winnow local communities, undermine a sustainable recovery,
and pressure the economy into a second recession a few years from now.
In a recent speech, Atlanta Federal Reserve President Dennis Lockhart
spoke of the “potential of a self-reinforcing negative feedback loop”
involving bank lending small business employment, and commercial real
estate values. No lending means that the small businesses dependent
on that source of credit will be forced to shut their doors. This pushes
up commercial vacancy rates in the local region, which pushes down on
real estate prices. Those falling prices in turn will lead to additional
write-downs in the bank's CRE portfolio.[13]
Worst case, this vicious cycle starts to hurt the local economies
just as the municipal bond defaults start to occur, leaving no room
for Keynesian responses. Worse case, the real estate industry in China
goes bad and the two downturns hit the global economy over the same
time frame. Worse case, today’s apparent bottom in property prices is
a temporary respite, with a further fall mid-decade.
As has often been the case in history, the lag time between the CRE
loan and the finished “shiny building” is the time delay between boom
and bust. What is truly unique today is that fifteen years of financial
globalization had instituted an astonishing “simultaneity” to world
growth patterns. From Atlanta to Astana, from Barcelona to Beijing,
from the OC to Hungary, speculative real estate was built.
The emerging economies saw real gains in purchasing power and industrial
capacity. And decades of excessive monetary policy and credit expansion
hid real wage declines in the developed economies. The world boomed
in unity, but it may not recover in unity.
With no likelihood of higher US wages or pronounced demographic growth,
the nation’s commercial real estate market will likely endure capacity
overhang for years. This will continue to burden our smaller banks.
As the following graph of “real peaks” suggests,[14] it is unclear
whether the US will escape the kind of period of deflationary pressure
Japan experienced on the long road down:
[1] Paul Kasriel, “Interview with Michael Shedlock,” Dec. 11, 2006
(globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com)
[2] John Crudele, “Banks Worry about Next Wave of Loan Defaults,”
New York Post, May 19, 2009
[3] Jake Tapper, “Greenspan: Commercial Real Estate has already
Popped,” ABC News, Apr. 4, 2010
[4] Brian Louis, “Commercial Property Values Drop as Rebound Stalls,”
Businessweek, May 19, 2010
[5] “US Vacancy Rate hits 17.2%” Fox Business News, Apr. 5, 2010
[6] John Keefe, “Rents Rise, sort of; another sign of slow recovery,”
CBS Marketwatch, Apr. 6, 2010
[7] Greg Rand, “Commercial Real Estate Bust? Not for Everyone,”
Entrepeneur, March 29, 2010
[8] James Stewart, “Commercial Real Estate: The Next Bubble?,” Smart
Money, Nov. 23. 2009
[9] Paul Kasriel, “Letter to Mish Shedlock,” Dec. 11, 2006 (globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com)
[10] James Stewart, “Commercial Real Estate: the Next Bubble?” Smart
Money, Nov. 23, 2009
[11] Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, “Deflation on the Prowl as Bernanke
Shuts down his Printing Press,” The Telegraph, Apr. 4, 2010
[13] “Elizabeth Warren Warns about Commercial Real Estate,” Huffington
Post, Feb. 11, 2010
[14] This graph is adjusted for inflation and aligns the Nikkei
1990 with the S+P 500 tops. Japan’s property prices started falling
2 years after the stock market; US property started to fall seven
years after March 2000. The delay can be chalked up to the far larger
US property market, demographics, and the immense liquidity measures
the Fed used to fight the initial bust and deflationary symptoms
in 2001- 2002.
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"She sees a double dip in housing, a bleak second half in the stock
market and says European banks are in much worse shape than US banks."
In an interview with Maria Bartiromo, Meredith Whitney goes much further.
She sees a double dip in housing, a bleak second half in the stock market
and says European banks are in much worse shape than US banks.
Bottom up innovators tend to be very clever and sneaky.
Unfortunately in recent years the
greatest innovation was in ways to circumvent the system. Peak civilization
breeds its own internal seeds of destruction.
I always appreciate reasonable criticism of Europe and the Eurozone.
The problem is that many American commentators just seem to repeat
the same old fallacies over and over and over again.
Obviously Erlanger didn't read
this release from Eurostat, showing the comparison of unemployment
rates between Europe and the US during the financial crisis.
Short summary: Unemployment in the US has pretty much doubled since
the crisis began, while European unemployment has increased by around
50%. This means that the unemployment rates of the two economies
has actually reached parity - the US recently had a higher unemployment
rate than the EU and Eurozone.
And spare a thought for Japan: It's almost as if Japan has been
in recession for 20 years if you believe what American commentators
say. Certainly Japan has its problems, but unemployment there is
half that of the US, and this despite some major downward hits on
GDP.
My own research on Real Interest Rates indicate that the US is entering
a period of monetary contraction - ie monetary conditions not being
conducive to growth. By contrast the EU is entering a period of
monetary expansion (monetary conditions being conducive to growth).
I think we'll see a drop in EU27/16 unemployment rates over the
next six months while US unemployment will either stagnate or rise.
Beijing consensus: neo-mercantilism can lead
to outright financial warfare
Bernanke worried about deflation more than
anything else
Money printing in US and Euro is inflationary
and balances China deflationary forces
Gold does well in both inflation and deflation
- well suited to times of uncertainty
Pullback in gold due to liquidation to raise cash in current
crunch
Gold sellers are daytraders, speculators, but
buyers look like strong hands
His Price target on gold to $2,000 short term
and $5,000 intermediate term
Merkel ban on naked short selling was absolutely
right - stand up to Wall Street
The way CDS are being used they are not part of a free market,
but a rigged game
Greece, Spain, and Italy are important NATO allies - we are
allowing our own US investment banks to assault them financially
(economic hitmen)
Speculation is fine, but it must be transparent, well funded,
and regulated
No money down, shadow CDS market is completely destructive
Who are the Bullion Banks serving? Who are the longs and the
shorts?
JamesGRickards is posting on twitter.com
There is a very important thought buried in the observation that
Chinese deflationary forces and slack demand are deflationary, but being
countered by money printing which is inflationary.
That is a prescription for stagflation.
I thought he was rather easy on the Chinese who are egregiously manipulating
their currency exchange rate to their advantage vis-à-vis the
developed industrial nations of Europe and North America.
From NY Fed President William Dudley's
commencement speech at New College of Florida:
[T]he recovery is not likely to be as robust as we would like for
several reasons.
First, households are still in the process of deleveraging. The
housing boom created paper wealth that households borrowed against.
This pushed the consumption share of nominal gross domestic product
to a record high of about 70 percent. When the boom turned into
a bust, those paper gains evaporated. In fact, many households now
find that the value of their homes is less than the amount of their
mortgage debt. This has created a difficult time for many families
and has caused the hangover to last longer.
Second, the banking system is still under significant stress. This
is particularly the case for small- and medium-sized banks that
have significant exposure to commercial real estate loans. This
stress means that banks have been slow to ease credit standards
as the economy has moved from recession to recovery.
Third, some of the sources that have supported the nascent recovery
are temporary. The big swing from inventory liquidation during the
recession back to accumulation will soon end as inventory levels
come back into better balance with sales. And fiscal stimulus from
the federal government is subsiding and will soon reverse.
...
In this environment, finding a job will be tough, but when you hit
the pavement remember that the job market is improving. Don't get
discouraged.
A few comments:
First, the household "deleveraging" seemed to start last year, but consumers
were back to spending more than they earned in Q1. Personal consumption
expenditures (PCE) increased to over 71% of GDP in Q1 - higher than
the 70% during the boom that Dudley mentioned. Some of this increase
in PCE was due to government transfer payments (all of the increase
in income in Q1 came from government transfer payments). I still think
the personal saving rate will rise over the next year or two - and that
will keep growth in PCE below the growth in income.
Second, I think the transitory inventory boost is about over. There were hints of this in the manufacturing surveys last
week from the Federal Reserve Banks of Philadelphia and New York - and
also in the Census Bureau's Manufacturing and Trade inventories
report for March. Also, as Dudley notes,
the boost from the stimulus "is subsiding and will soon reverse"
(the peak stimulus spending is right now - in Q2 2010).
These are significant headwinds, and I think growth will slow in the
2nd half of 2010.
the household "deleveraging" seemed to start last year, but
consumers were back to spending more than they earned in Q1.
It is important to keep in mind that "deleveraging" is a complicated
process:
- Some people delever gradually, by paying down their debt.
- Others delever in one fell swoop by defaulting on their debt (to
be more precise, whatever debt they can default on)
This process is far from over.
nova:
Reading all the BP comments I was hit with an image that still
lingers
A big empty plain. On it stands a phalanx of people all ages, 100
people wide, packed tight, and stretching to the horizon. I know
this, no idea how, that this is people who are alive now and who
will be in the future. Then a shadow falls over a significant portion
of them and they are gone.
That is BP
A failing economy can be fixed in ten years or twenty. This is something
else.
Relocation of people from coast = debt cards = good for the banks
2nd home and first homes soon to be fronting a toxic waste = bad
for banks
End of an industry = bad for banks
End of a food source = good for farm raised fishies
Devastation of an ecosystem or two = priceless
Sometimes I think wearing about the economy is like picking up nickels
in front of the bulldozer of eco change
picking up nickels in front of the
bulldozer of eco change
Environmental damage if on a large enough scale is much more serious
than financial damage.
dryfly:
pavel.chichikov wrote:
Environmental damage if on a large enough scale is much more
serious than financial damage.
Ecology & economy - same root.
Juvenal Delinquent:
Nature is indifferent to the survival
of the human species, including Americans. ~ Adlai E. Stevenson,
Jr.
greenchutes:
The Fed's misguided policies and mindless management created
a housing boom that created paper wealth that households borrowed
against...Second, the banking system is still under significant
stress from bad lending encouraged by the Fed. This is particularly
the case for small- and medium-sized banks which are not part of
the Fed's inner circle and hence seen as targets of "consolidation"
by their savvier betters...Third, the "extend and pretend" stunts
authored by the Fed in conjunction with other tentacles of her such
as the Treasury and FHA that have supported the nascent recovery
are temporary...
Maury the Credit Responsibility Panda:
Fed Governor William Dudley said:
In this environment, finding a job will be tough, but when you
hit the pavement remember that the job market is improving. Don't
get discouraged.
"And when you take a job formerly held by someone twice your age
for half the salary, understand that this is in no way deflationary;
it's a productivity improvement. "
dryfly:
Maury the Credit Responsibility Panda wrote:
"And when you take a job formerly held by someone twice your
age for half the salary, understand that this is in no way deflationary;
it's a productivity improvement. "
I see the opposite more often - older workers taking jobs kids from
college expect & would usually get for $X and doing it for $0.75X
or less. The kids leave school thinking I'll be making $X so my
loans won't be that bad... then get beat out for jobs paying less
by mid-30 to mid-40 displaced 'mid-career' types. Where my wife
works the layoffs were very heavy in the middle pyramid - white
collar and 'information' workers. They are all - along with the
kids - fighting for the bottom pyramid jobs.
And as before - this isn't deflation its 'deflationary pressure'
- no money created or destroyed - but sure does drive down prices
& dollar velocity [symptoms of deflation].
No surprise we see Ben pushing more money out to the EU - there
will likely be a lot more of that. QE World Tour 2010 - I want the
shirt.
wrote on Sat, 5/22/2010 - 8:09 am (in reply to...) Tagsdryfly wrote:
Where my wife works the layoffs were very heavy in the middle pyramid
- white collar and 'information' workers. They are all - along with
the kids - fighting for the bottom pyramid jobs.
From the recent report published by Rutgers U's Center for Workforce
Development
March 2010 job situation of people who were unemployed in August 2009:
- 68% still unemployed
- 13% employed full time
- 7% employed part time
- 12% left labor force
Yet another reason to treat U3 numbers very cautiously
"People in mainland Louisiana are seeing
the beginnings of the oil's full effects on wildlife in the area.
Sticky rust colored oil covers the reeds like a latex paint indicating
that the efforts to lay miles of floating booms to keep it away
from the fragile marshes are useless. They are experiencing what
the
Plaquemines (mouth of Mississippi River)
saw last week and it now appears that their defenses were inadequate.
Only time will tell how much more worse it can get as
BP still scrambles for a solution. NPR also ran a story
critical of Obama's 'scientific approach' that he promised to
use in office and how well it's being applied and holding up during
this crisis."
Here is an email from a
member of the House Committee on Homeland Security to Max Keiser regarding
Financial Terrorism. Both the email and Max Keiser's response had me
laughing my head off.
Hi Mr. Keiser,
My name is Chris Beck and I work on the staff of the House Committee
on Homeland Security in Washington, DC. I have been reading and
listening to you regarding the May 6 stock market plunge and the
likelihood that this was an act of financial terrorism. I think
this is a huge issue that has not been given enough attention, and
may warrant oversight by our committee. I would greatly appreciate
the chance to talk to you to make sure I understand the nuts and
bolts, and to figure out what avenues may be available to correct
what appears to be a massive fraud that could undermine U.S. National
Security. Can you please contact me and let me know if you are available
to talk?
Thank you,
Chris
Chris Beck, Ph.D.
Senior Advisor for Science and Technology
House Committee on Homeland Security
I think it's really incredible how clueless these people are.
Given the recent track record of corrupt regulators in D.C. it's
not hard to imagine that Chris Beck is wittingly or unwittingly
just bird dogging intelligence that will be fed to Goldman and used
to package ever more exotic Financial Terrorist weapons.
My position is the government IS Goldman and any info gleaned by
this type of thing will end up helping no one BUT Goldman.
“Computerized Front Running: Another Goldman-Dominated Fraud
Keiser isn’t just speculating about this. He claims to have invented
one of the most widely used programs for doing the rigging. Not
that that’s what he meant to invent. His patented program was designed
to take the manipulation out of markets. It would do this by matching
buyers with sellers automatically, eliminating “front running” –
brokers buying or selling ahead of large orders coming in from their
clients. The computer program was intended to remove the conflict
of interest that exists when brokers who match buyers with sellers
are also selling from their own accounts. But the program fell into
the wrong hands and became the prototype for automated trading programs
that actually facilitate front running.”
Max Keiser is a former Wall Street broker and options trader. Having
worked on Wall Street, he knows exactly what's going on.
Jekyll Island 7:
“Mish, here's a revised "Top 20 Financial Mobsters"
1) Alan Greenspan
2) Robert Rubin
3) Larry Summers
4) Ben Bernanke
5) Alan "Ace" Greenberg--CEO Bear Stearns
6) Henry Paulson
7) Sen. Chris Dodd
8) Con. Barney Frank
9) Dick Fuld--CEO Lehman Bros
10) Lloyd Blankfein
11) Jamie Dimon
12) Tim Geithner
13) George W Bush
14) Bill Clinton
15) Barack Obama
16) Chuck Prince
17) Angelo Mozilo
18) Hank Greenberg
19) Bernie Madoff
20) Robert Stanford
You will see wild swings in both directions as the global financial
system continues it's collapse.
You will have to move quicker and quicker to stay a float.
Eventually the game of music chairs will end with no chairs left.
Everyone is running from the Truth, the lemmings always run from
the Truth until there is nowhere else to run.
All Europe can do is effect the rate of decline, just like the
US was able to do in 2008. It's still going to collapse, that
portion has always been known.
Some people lie to themselves right on public TV. Larry
Kudlow running from the Truth just like the rest of the lemmings.
Just remember, this fucking assclown was on cnbc telling people
to average all the way down in the fall of 2008.
{edit} Fuck I hate this guy. It makes me happy to see him nervous
as shit, because he's levered long into all this bullshit.
Paul S.:
What the hell happened to the Total Return Fund's bund position?
I thought I was going to get wiped out and PTTRX barely got touched.
Not sure if they got out early or if they underrepresented their
holdings.
Now why do the Germans in particular feel a tad nervous?
Well, Germany, like the UK and Switzerland,
has a banking system so large relative to its economy that it cannot
credibly backstop it if it goes seriously off the rails.
The problem is more acute in Germany because it does not control its
own currency (as it cannot simply throw whatever it takes at the banks
and if need be, “print” later; by contrast, the risk to the UK and Swiss
banking system comes from its banks’ foreign currency exposures).
The dollar Libor-OIS spread, a gauge of banks’ reluctance to
lend, widened to 25.3 basis points from 24.8 basis points yesterday,
the biggest gap since Aug. 13. A basis point is 0.01 percentage
point.
Short-term funding costs are a “good measure” of the concern
in markets that Europe’s debt crisis might spread, [Jeff] Rosenberg
[of Bank of America Merrill] said.
“Libor-OIS spreads are on the rise again and that tells you the
systemic risk of a restructuring, as the outcome for the European
sovereign credit crisis, has not been alleviated,” he said.
renting_is_hellish:
‘…taking a tough line with speculators looks like a desperate
gesture to restore a semblance of cred.’
Or cling to power – after all, Merkel represents the free market,
friendly to ‘Finazinvestoren’ part of the German political landscape.
Wait until you get a chance to see what a (still potential, with
many practical hurdles to surmount) coalition of the real socialist
SPD, the no longer so utterly radical (in Germany, at least) Greens,
and the no longer real communist (according to them) Linke. None
of those parties give a rat’s ass about what Wall Street thinks,
and the Greens, at least, would love to kill the idea of growth
at all costs (how is the Gulf looking these days?) with a wooden
stake through its foul heart.
As for the FDP, the closest thing to an American understandable
party representing financial/commercial interests – they lost, very
big, in the ‘local’ NRW election, in much the same manner that the
Linke won. A local election which just happened to mean that Merkel
lost her majority in the Bundesrat, meaning that if she wants to
get any (well, technically, most) legislation passed, she needs
to get along with those states where the SPD, Greens, and Linke
hold sway.
Right or wrong (and boy, do they have experience with wrong),
the Germans have pretty much decided to no longer play along with
Wall Street, the City, Zürich, etc. The results should be fascinating
– personally, when the Masters of the Universe start boycotting
Mercedes, Porsche, and BMW, we will know that the game is getting
serious.
ah:
German financial regulator Bafin already banned naked short selling
last year:
http://www.bafin.de/cln_161/nn_721140/SharedDocs/Mitteilungen/EN/2008/pm__080919__leerv__en.html
In March Bafin issued a notification decree on some short selling
positions
“to take targeted action as required, sufficiently in advance and
swiftly, against short-selling transactions that pose risks to the
orderly conduct of securities trading and the stability of the financial
system.”:
http://www.bafin.de/cln_161/nn_721140/SharedDocs/Mitteilungen/EN/2010/pm__100304__leerverk__transparenz__en.html
So hardly unexpected
Jesse:
Naked shorting is illegal in the US.
It was not enforced by regulators who were willing to turn a blind
eye to blatant market manipulation.
Germany banned NAKED short selling, not just ‘certain types of short
selling.’
This surprise to me just indicates how low our standards have fallen,
and how given over to Stockholm syndrome so many are to the speculators
and the banks.
I found it interesting that the heavy selling today in US equities,
triggered by large trances of SP futures selling near the open,
in addition to news indicating the recovery is not gaining traction,
was tied by traders this morning over ‘unease the the Congress has
not yet killed Blanche Lincoln’s amendment.’
I would that Obama had half the courage of Merkel.
And that commentators would pull back
from the status quo and realize the sorry state that their economy
is in, held hostage by a bunch of spoiled brats and thugs.
stickyfeet:
It’s important not to conflate a (thus far) temporary and limited
naked shorting ban (the actual German policy move) with straight
shorting, which is still allowed. Bankers are pushing this straw
man argument and many media reports are buying it without making
the distinction. It’s all very hypocritical – in the depths of the
financial crisis, Wall Street demanded and received from the SEC
bans not only on naked shorting of their stock, but also bans on
straight shorting.
Naked shorting is not illegal, but it ought to be. Reg Sho in
the US restricts it, but did not eliminate it (there remains significant
uncertainty as to how much of this activity moved out of the DTCC
system to the ex-clearing system as Reg Sho was tightened).
In any case, even in the US, Reg Sho applies to stocks. Germany’s
move was unique and surprising because it applies to some sovereign
bonds, an area where naked shorting is prevalent (and even a qualifier
for sovereign bonds to be included in certain government bond indexes;
eg. South Koea recently allowed naked shorting of its government
bonds so that it could be included in Citi’s world government bond
index).
The only reason I have seen proffered by bankers as to why naked
shorting in government bonds (or any other bonds or stocks) should
be allowed is that it creates liquidity. That seems a poor counterweight
to what is akin to counterfeiting.
Granted, the manner in which the German’s moved forward was ham-handed.
The policy needs to be considered carefully, as it is not a straight
line from banning naked shorting on stocks and bonds to applying
the same to CDS and similar (do you then ban put option buying if
not holding the underlying as well?).
kares jhangiani:
It is unfortunate that Yves Smith is beginning to sound breathless
if not hysterical! This is Wall Street
thuggery and they are trying to hamstring the little bit of regulation
contained in the “Financial Services” bill in the Senate.
With what right, does anyone not holding Euro assets have to “short”
sovereign European bonds? All moronic, unnecessary speculation.
We need to reduce the size of the
financial sector that has grown since Reagan’s deregulation kick,
“get the government off people’s back”, the idiot’s baloney, just
like George Bush’s nonsense.
Chancellor Merkel has done what was needed, and forget about “exporting
deflation”. I wish that the current U.S. administration had the
same sense/courage. The same thing with “Single Payer.” There is
far too much speculation in the stock and commodity markets.
Why has the price of oil declined about $20/barrel in the last
few weeks? Has oil consumption declined by 25% in the last few weeks?
Of course not. At the same time, the price of gasoline is stuck
at ~$2.90/gallon around where I live.
You think the oil companies with their computers don’t know that
consumption has remained unchanged, if not declined somewhat? So,
why is the price of gasoline sticky?
We live in the age of Monopoly Capitalism and their servants,
the Congress and the Supreme Court, are there to do their bidding,
that is to say, obstruct all sensible change in the name of “free
markets” and anti-”socialism.”
It is unfortunate that unregulated,
unfettered Britain lacking any manufacturing capability is their
accomplice.
After some time, these markets will return to their senses and
look for real organic growth in the different countries and act
likewise because they do have to make profits before the quarter
ends on June 30, 2010.
The image I picked for today’s Thoughts is pretty bleak one. It is
from a war-themed video game, and those of you with teenage kids have
probably seen similar imagery as you walk through the family room while
they are playing. I am amazed at the graphics, and I am even more sadly
amazed at how desolate, bleak, and shell-like the cities are that serve
as the battlefields for our well-armed teens. You see where I am going
with this. Our secondary markets have become like that game.
Massive firepower and resources are devoted
to the activity of evolved trading (scalping). Huge financial
institutions called Exchanges cater to this activity so myopically,
that they have lost all perspective of the real role of financial markets.
And sadly, our regulators have allowed them to do so. In the name of
evolution and “adapt or die” mentality, our markets have been hijacked
and stripped of its most important role and function. We need to all
adjust our thinking, because our economy demands it. We need to adjust
our perspective, because our economy demands it. Markets need
to be fair, and inspire confidence! That confidence is needed
so that those with capital can feel confident in investing. This confidence
is unfortunately on the wane. You hear it at parties, and you hear it
on the street. Amazingly you hear it from brokerage firm executives
(one who yesterday wrote an article suggesting that the source of our
markets problems is the market order! Yes… he thinks the solution is
to eliminate the market order and tell the world that our “most efficient
and liquid markets” can’t handle the 100yr old market order!)
The confidence must be restored or investors (the owners
of the market) will continue to flee, and then our markets
will be left to the high freaks (the renters of the market),
and exactly like the war video game pictured above, complete with shelled
out buildings populated by well-armed kids.
primefool:
The purpose of MArkets?
1. Social Mood manipulation - Psy Ops.
2. Political Tool: wnat to drill baby drill ? Get oil prices higher.
etc. need emergency funds handed to banks - crash the stock market.
etc.
3. Keeps a lot of people off the streets - trying to game the markets
on their home computers. This is good. Because , sadly, we dont
need most people to operate the world economy. ( Look up info on
the Lexus plant in japan - run by robots) . 3% of American workers
in agriclture - produce more than enough food to fee the US twice
over - and does!
Actually this is the big underlying reality - most average people
with good hearts and a willingness to work 8 hrs a day, with average
skills in english and arithmetic - Just Are Not Needed.
The Alarmist :
This is why ZH needs an OpEd tab ... if you simply report the
inanities of the markets, with perhaps a little editorial flair,
then you are still in the realm of news, but if you start tossing
around phrases like "Markets need to be fair" then you are clearly
in the realm of opinion, which is far less entertaining.
Let's face it, aside from the Hokey Pokey, entertainment is what
it is all about. If markets were fair, there would be little reason
for us to seek to find thousands of angles to extract the little
rents that will help us pay our bigger rents, and there would be
no reason for ZH.
Some participants expressed concern that a crisis in Greece
or in some other peripheral European countries could have an adverse
effect on U.S. financial markets, which could also slow the recovery
in this country.
What utter horseshit. US financial markets are preventing any recovery
in this country.
Cinco-X:
What utter horseshit. US financial markets are preventing
any recovery in this country.
I agree with this statement....Now I ponder the reason for
it.
It's worth noting that the financial system's charter is to "create
wealth" (new as in they didn't have before) for their customers,
not for the nation at large. A high unemployment rate helps keep
costs down and profit margins up. Additionally, a general economic
malaise tends to result in more government assistance, i.e. free
money. This along with ZIRP is a situation the financial markets
like.....
This is one possible explanation-
Byzantine_Ruins:
Barley wrote:
energyecon - No my comment was about wealth creation and destruction.
Name one single government that has "created" wealth.
Any one of them that ever operated post-riders and civil engineering.
Any one that has operated an agronomy service or made the provision
of public ports and locks.
Great Teacher help us all.
Please don't be a maniac.
The 'governments' those families existed in the context of, were
nothing more than families. They certainly had no massive modern
style professional establishments.
What is the actual difference between Power Group 1 which steals
wealth, and Power Group 2, which creates it?
Position in the scheme of things, mostly?
Everyone is prince if he can be, because princes are great robbers
and it's great to be one.
1 currency now -yogi:
Before governments there was all this wealth creation stuff.
Farmers would plant and harvest their crops without any foolish
regulation and taxes. Then hunters would kill them and eat the crops.
EvilHenryPaulson:
I was going to talk about political trends, nothing I haven't
said before, but I don't want to fuel the recent fires...
however there is the fairly neutral topic of "brain drain" worth
bringing up, it might be a leading factor in sovereign/economic
distress because it happens when there is a lack of competitive
commitment over the foreseeable future to funding for high knowledge/skillset
individuals
there were constant headlines about "brain drain" in Canada over
the 90s when the national govt was trying to pay down debt, interest
rates were higher than elsewhere (Quebec concerns?) and commodities
were cheap (at least I can vaguely remember that)
ICI has reported the most recent fund flow data, and it's a doozy.
In the week following the flash crash, domestic equity funds saw a whopping
$8.6 billion in outflows. As a result, the YTD outflow is over $9 billion,
so in essence after almost going back to breakeven before May 6, equity
funds are now once again solidly in the red, even as Primary Dealers
and HFTs continue to play "hot potato market" with each other.
In addition to the carnage in domestic equities, all other mutual
funds saw an outflow in the prior week, including foreign equities ($3.7)
billion, Hybrid ($0.7) billion, and total bond funds ($1.0) billion,
for the first total net outflow across all products in over a year.
We will bring you AMG/Lipper fund data once we get it, although we do
not expect any notable discrepancies.
Leo Kolivakis
Scare the little retail suckers so the big hedgies can scoop
up shares on the cheap. Never, ever fails! By the way, if another
"flash crash" happens, the financial services industry is cooked.
Game over.
SheepDog-One :
'Cheap shares', Leo? Using what standard of measure? Future bubble
Ponzinomics?
Remove the Fiatsco pipeline and youve got a S&P of what, maybe 400
max as reflected by a present realistic P/E?
AccreditedEYE:
The script has changed this time
Leo. Demographics are not on your side. Boomers will be net sellers
of equities going forward... and I am fairly confident retail is
scared Shi*less over the volatility they have been seeing.
Leo Kolivakis :
That is what worries me the most. I had lunch with a fund of
hedge funds manager yesterday and we were talking about the "flash
crash" and how it scares people off markets. In his own words "this
could be a generational shift with profound implications".
The problem is where are people going to invest? It's a tough
environment but you have to accept that volatility may be a harbinger
of things to come.
The HFT and algos have ruined these
markets. Retail can't compete with superfast multi-million
dollar computers.
Turd Ferguson:
And I don't want to hear any shit about the average investor
being stupid and how this is actually bullish and blah, blah, blah.
President B'rock O'bottom promised us a "fundamental transformation".
Well, here's a fundamental change for ya: Average investors have
caught on the the Wall Street game/ripoff/ponzi. They are heading
for the exits in droves.
This trend will not reverse. The
stock market has become one great game of musical chairs, played
exclusively by the trading desks of the TBTF banks.
Everybody knows by now that managers of partnerships who have "profit
interests" have been claiming that they do not have compensation income
but merely a return of capital on their "carried interests" (and that
may be long-term capital, they claim, when they hold the profits interest
for some time and there are long term gains in the partnership that
are allocated to them).
Many tax experts, including myself, have argued that these profits should
be taxed as compensation. At ordinary rates, like the janitors and clerks
and other employees of the firm. Immediately and without deferral, like
others who work for a living. And subject to payroll taxes (FICA, FUTA),
since wages are supposed to be subject to payroll taxation.
Managers of private equity, hedge, venture capital, real estate and
other partnerships have been able to avoid such real world consequences
of working for a living in most part. They are generally paid a fee
(usually about 2% of assets under management, in hedge and private equity
firms) and a "carried interest" (usually about 20% of assets under management,
each year, and sometimes amounting to 30% or 50%, for the really big-time
managers). They do treat the fee as compensation, but claim that the
carried interest is not.
As an aside, the hysteria, or Straßenschreier, with which
the actions of Germany to curb naked short selling were greeted was
very funny last night, and highly entertaining.
As you may not realize, naked short selling has been illegal in the
US for some time, as least as far as equities are concerned. It was
not enforced as the regulators turned a blind eye to many abuses that
crept into the 'naturally efficient markets' on their watch. It is tantamount
to counterfeiting, and in the hands of a party with pockets deep enough
to permit it to dominate small markets, it is a blatant form of control
fraud.
By the way, I hear that there has been almost no coverage of William
K. Black's highly credible and shocking revelations on the public media
in the States, outside of a piece on Bill Moyers' Journal. Can anything
be so obvious as the control wielded by the corporatists?
But what is of concern to the Wall Street demimonde are their
beloved CDS, which are as foul a form of white collar criminal abuse
as ever has been seen since the creation of the Federal Reserve Bank.
Any attempts to limit them will be resisted with threats, promises of
dire outcomes and ruin, and buckets of money for politicians and regulators.
The rest of the world is beginning to act with revulsion at the destructive
corruption of Washington and New York, and the American oligarchs.
Merkel made them squeal with her own version of shock and awe, and it
was music to many ears. You go, Höllenmädchen.
Should NYT be renames the "Hedge funds voice" ? In reality, the only
state that has courage to ban uncovered default swaps is the only state
that is not under full control of financial oligarchy.
...markets were falling in response to Germany’s move late Tuesday
against so-called naked short-sellers, closing down around 3 percent
in much of Europe
“Close cooperation in the E.U. on all issues which have a strong
market impact is very important and needs to be strengthened,” the E.U.
president, Herman Van Rompuy, told a news conference in Madrid, Reuters
reported. He said that he would raise the issue of naked short-selling
at a meeting of finance ministers in Brussels on Friday.
In a short sale, an investor sells borrowed assets hoping to buy
them later at a lower price and pocket the difference as profit. In
a naked short, the investor does so without actually having possession
of the assets. Many Europeans have attacked the practice as casino-style
speculation that can unfairly disturb the markets.
A number of European countries, including France, Austria, Belgium
and Spain, still maintain prohibitions against naked short-selling of
shares in their own major financial institutions, first imposed in 2008.
But outside of Austria, there appeared to be little immediate enthusiasm
for following Germany’s lead into new areas of regulation, including
of government bonds.
...the government’s new aggressive attack on speculators won her
admiring headlines as the debate opened Wednesday.
The German financial regulator, BaFin, said Tuesday that it had banned
naked short-selling of euro-zone government bonds and was reinstating
a ban on naked short-selling in the shares of 10 German financial institutions
— including Deutsche Bank, Commerzbank and Allianz — until March 31,
2011.
First off, I think it unlikely that an export demand shock alone
is sufficient to push the US economy back into recession.
Menzie Chinn tackled this issue back in 2007, arguing at the time
it was unlikely a rise in exports would stave off a recession. The reverse
logic holds as well; US recessions look to be driven by sharp declines
in domestic absorption, not exports.
That is not to say that slowing exports would not crimp US growth.
The rising Dollar not only stresses US exports to Europe, but China
as well. As
Calculated Risk notes, European exporters are now more competitive
in China compared to their US counterparts. Moreover, the falling Euro
may delay any eventual loosening of Chinese currency policy, as policymakers
fret about the effects of one falling currency, let alone two.
Now, it is perfectly reasonable to be concerned about the implications
of falling net exports for growth given the supposed fragility of the
US recovery. The
Wall Street Journal reports the Goldman Sachs analysis:
Estimates of how much the government’s spending is actually stimulating
growth vary wildly — some economists contend it has no net effect
at all. But if you believe the economists at Goldman Sachs, who
have spent a lot of time poring over the details, the effect is
quite significant: about two percentage points of annualized growth
in both this quarter and the last. Indeed, if one subtracts that
stimulus effect and the boost from changing inventories — also a
temporary factor — there’s been no recovery at all. Growth in the
first and second quarters of 2010 would be zero.
bakho:
A conservation program to keep oil prices low would be better
for the US economy than having Europe tank. Low oil prices are helpful
right now, but in the long term the US needs to prepare for much
higher oil prices.
A decrease in demand in Europe will be a glut on on your markets.
OrganicGeorge:
Correct me if I misunderstood the post.
Is "growth" in the US economy based on the sale of US debt?
kharris:
Funny how Duy distinguishes between what information is important
and what is not. When Chin notes that trade rarely makes the difference
between recession and expansion, that is reason enough to stop worrying
about how much changes to the trade outlook due to Greece might
reduce US growth. Changes to oil prices and the US rate outlook
due to Greece (Duy missed the impact of China's slow-down efforts?)
are, on the other hand, a big deal. So big, in fact, that it drives
Duy's conclusion, without ever laying out the magnitudes of various
influences. The worst month for many of the broad "ex-" retail sales
aggregates since September, as noted in the WSJ, is dismissed.
Duy isn't doing economics. He's doing
sales, like always.
beezer:
Duy is trying to predict. Always a dangerous thing to try. But
we desire understanding nevertheless.
More importantly, we never ask the obvious question. How do we
prepare?
There is much surprise
that the German government has declared a ban on naked short selling,
including CDS, as of midnight tonight, with no prior notice and the
courtly deference demanded by the Banks when government chooses to regulate
them. This action seems to have perturbed some and confused many.
The reason for this may be quite simple.
After tonight, when hedge funds and The Banks call upon German financial
firms and European governments to make payments on Credit Default Swaps
or other financial instruments that are subject to the ban, the Germans
will have a rather large hammer in hand to help them to negotiate the
terms, and respond to any threats and coercion.
Since the CDS will be deemed to be no longer legal, at least in the
quantity and leverage desired by those gaming the system, the opportunity
to default on them with the backing of the government may be an option.
This seems quite similar to the stance that the Chinese government took
on behalf of some Chinese firms that were caught on the wrong side of
energy derivatives.
I have heard from several sources that there was a general disappointment
in Europe and in some parts of Asia at the lack of progress being made
in the US Congress towards creating meaningful reforms in their financial
system. In fact, there is a widespread belief that Washington is being
dictated to by the Banks, and that their lobbyists are directing the
conversation, and in many cases writing the actual legislation. The
final straw was when the Obama Administration itself sought to water
down and block key provisions of the legislation to limit the power
and size of the Banks.
"To some degree this is a battle between the politicians and the
markets," she said in a speech in Berlin. "But I am firmly resolved
-- and I think all of my colleagues are too -- to win this battle....The
fact that hedge funds are not regulated is a scandal," she said,
adding that Britain had blocked previous efforts to do this. "However,
this will certainly have taken place in Europe in three weeks,"
she said, without giving more details."
Reuters 6 May 2010
"German Chancellor Angela Merkel accused the financial industry
of playing dirty. 'First the banks failed, forcing states to carry
out rescue operations. They plunged the global economy over the
precipice and we had to launch recovery packages, which increased
our debts, and now they are speculating against these debts. That
is very treacherous,' she said. 'Governments must regain supremacy.
It is a fight against the markets and I am determined to win this
fight.'"UK
Telegraph 6 May 2010
The
financiers have been saying that 'Europe cannot print money faster than
Goldman Sachs can create naked Credit Default Swaps.' Well, Goldman
can still create those swaps, but they may have trouble finding counterparties
for them in Europe. And those who buy them may do so at their peril,
since Europe is obviously seeking to isolate itself from the consequences
of speculative excess by an overleveraged financial system.
Merkel said she was going to reassert the primacy of government over
the multinational speculators.
This is only the opening salvo. It will not be effective without further
effort. And it is likely to draw the ire and criticism of the corporate
media in NY and London, and the financiers' well-kept demimonde.
"Oh no, naked CDS are essential to price discovery. Naked shorting
adds liquidity. The system will fall apart if you do not let the
Banks have their way with the global economy. Oh my God, someone
in government actually did something that was not vetted and pre-approved
by the Wall Street Banks. They have actually outlawed naked shorting,
which is tantamount to legalized counterfeiting. How dare that headstrong
and impertinent frau Dr. Merkel attempt to protect her people from
the gangs of New York!"
But one has to admit that the lady has style, and, unlike her American
counterpart, is not afraid to occasionally take the wheel and drive,
rather than sit in the back seat offering platitudes, and fine sounding
words, and toothlessly petulant criticism.
Bloomberg Germany to Ban Naked Short-Selling
at Midnight By Alan Crawford
May 18, 2010
May 18 (Bloomberg) -- Germany will temporarily ban naked short selling
and naked credit-default swaps of euro-area government bonds at
midnight after politicians blamed the practice for exacerbating
the European debt crisis.
The ban will also apply to naked short selling in shares of 10 banks
and insurers that will last until March 31, 2011, German financial
regulator BaFin said today in an e-mailed statement. The step was
needed because of “exceptional volatility” in euro-area bonds, the
regulator said.
The move came as Chancellor Angela Merkel’s coalition seeks to build
momentum on
financial-market regulation with lower- house lawmakers due to begin
debating a bill tomorrow authorizing Germany’s contribution to a
$1 trillion bailout plan to backstop the euro. U.S. stocks fell
and the euro dropped to $1.2231, the lowest level since April 18,
2006, after the announcement.
“You cannot imagine what broke lose here after BaFin’s announcement,”
Johan Kindermann, a capital markets lawyer at Simmons & Simmons
in Frankfurt, said in an interview. “This will lead to an uproar
in the markets tomorrow. Short-sellers will now, even tonight, try
to close their positions at markets where they can still do so --
if they find any possibilities left at all now.”
Merkel, Sarkozy
Merkel and French President Nicolas Sarkozy have called for curbs
on speculating with sovereign credit-default swaps. European Union
Financial Services Commissioner Michel Barnier this week called
for stricter disclosure requirements on the transactions.
Allianz SE, Deutsche Bank AG, Commerzbank AG, Deutsche Boerse AG,
Deutsche Postbank AG, Muenchener Rueckversicherungs AG, Hannover
Rueckversicherungs AG, Generali Deutschland Holding AG, MLP AG and
Aareal Bank AG are covered by the short-selling ban.
“Massive” short-selling was leading to excessive price movements
which “could endanger the stability of the entire financial system,”
BaFin said in the statement.
The European Union last month proposed that the Financial Stability
Board, the group set up by the Group of 20 nations to monitor global
financial trends, should “closely examine the role” of CDS on sovereign
bond spreads. Merkel said earlier today that she will press the
Group of 20 to bring in a financial transactions tax.
Merkel’s ‘Battle’
“In some ways, it’s a battle of the politicians against the markets”
and “I’m
determined to win,” Merkel said May 6. “The speculators are our
adversaries.”
Germany, along with the U.S. and other EU nations, banned short
selling of banks and insurance company shares at the height of the
global financial crisis in 2008. The country still has rules requiring
disclosure of net short positions of 0.2 percent or more of outstanding
shares of 10 separate companies.
The disclosure of the rules drew criticism from lawyers who said
that they should have been announced well ahead of time.
“The way it’s been announced is very irresponsible, and it’s sent
many market participants into panic mode,” said Darren Fox, a regulator
lawyer who advises hedge funds at Simmons & Simmons in London. “We
thought regulators had learned their lessons from September 2008.
Where is the market emergency that necessitates the introduction
of an overnight ban?”
Short-selling is when hedge funds and other investors borrow shares
they don’t own and sell them in the hope their price will go down.
If it does, they buy back the shares at the lower price, return
them to their owner and pocket the difference.
Credit-default swaps are derivatives that pay the buyer face value
if a borrower -- a country or a company -- defaults. In exchange,
the swap seller gets the underlying securities or the cash equivalent.
Traders in naked credit-default swaps buy insurance on bonds they
don’t own.
A basis point on a credit-default swap contract protecting $10 million
of debt from default for five years is equivalent to $1,000 a year.
Is the debt situation just something we are worried about
in a downturn and something that’ll be much easier to control in once
economic growth returns?
You are assuming that economic growth returns! Growth will
certainly resume someday, but I think that anyone who expects the kind
of housing market performance we saw in the last 10 years anytime soon
is delusional. That housing bubble really affected all other aspects
of our economic growth and juiced it way beyond normal levels. I mention
housing because I think it was a huge part of the bubble in America
– people spent paper profits on their homes, accruing debts in the process.
MEW – mortgage equity withdrawal!!! It fuelled everything. As
long as we don’t have a downturn, you don’t have to worry about this
debt – you just refinance it – MAGIC! Of course, that MUST end
at some point.
... ... ...
What are some of the other blogs you read for insights into new
developments?
Calculated Risk
– for not-too-opinionated, very educated, and very accurate interpretations
of economic data points.
Barry Ritholtz – for more
opinionated and less censored interpretations of the same. David
Merkel’s Aleph
Blog, Paul Kedrosky’s Infectious
Greed, Tyler Cowen’s
Marginal Revolution, Michael Panzner’s
Financial Armageddon,
for focused and always insightful pieces. I think
Felix Salmon has
become one of the better mainstream writers – he is a journalist, but
he gets the facts straight, doesn’t manipulate them, and accurately
explains unpopular views in an attempt to educate, not to generate hype
and hysteria.
Mike “MISH” Shedlock
has also done a good job repeatedly focusing on the municipal debt problems
we are facing – which no one seems to be talking about.
An overwhelming majority of executives (84 percent) polled by consulting
firm Deloitte are concerned that the economy will reverse course on its
recovery and create a double-dip recession.
Fully 58 percent of Americans agreed with the statement, "Because of
corporate corruption and broker practices, the stock market is no longer
a fair and open way to invest one's money." Just 35 percent said the stock
market remains fair and open.
Senator Ted Kaufman (D, DE) is best known these days for arguing that, as
part of comprehensive financial reform efforts, our biggest banks need to be
made smaller. His advocacy on this issue helped build support around the
country and forced a Senate floor vote on the Brown-Kaufman amendment,
which was defeated 33-61 last Thursday.
Senator Kaufman has also pushed strongly the idea that in recent years there
was a pervasive “arc of fraud” within the mortgage-securitization-derivatives
complex. This thesis also seems to be gaining traction – according to
the WSJ today, the criminal probe into this part of the financial sector
continues to develop.
Think about it this way. The US stock trading system, long-established
and widely thought to be robust, crashed on Thursday afternoon. Widely
held stocks, traded with consistent liquidity, do not fall in value from $40
to 1 cent and then bounce back again – even in emerging markets, let alone in
the United States. It is true that complex systems crash, but given the
infrastructure and back-up systems involved here, this is much closer to east
coast air traffic control shutting down for 15 minutes than it is to your local
cable company having a problem.
And here’s the most remarkable point – after 6 full working days (and top
people do sweat this kind of issue on the weekend), we are still no closer to
really understanding what happened. To be sure, there are plenty of theories
– and no shortage of proposals for avoiding a recurrence. But, despite
the evident resources thrown at this problem, we do not know what went wrong.
As Senator Kaufman points out, the SEC does not even routinely collect the
data it needs to understand the actions and impact of large traders.
Senator Kaufman is spot on but the “black box” high speed melt down happened
before as well, in August 2007. The MIT magazine Technology Review wrote
about in the Nov/Dec 2007 issue. The article written by Bryant Urstadt is
titled The Blow-Up !! In 3 years nothing has changed.
Thanks for the answer Mark. And erichwwk, you’re my new hero. I sincerely
appreciate it, both of you. Here’s a terrific Op-Ed by Nouriel Roubini.
It’s a relatively quick read and very insightful. Like scarily insightful.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/opinion/14Roubini.html?_r=3
I agree with Roubini when he writes “Now that the dollar’s position is
no longer so secure, we need to shift our priorities. This will entail investing
in our crumbling infrastructure, alternative and renewable resources and
productive human capital — rather than in unnecessary housing and toxic
financial innovation.”
And that means not subsidizing risk aversion the way it is done with
capital requirements for banks that are lower for what is perceived as having
lower default risks, and therefore already pays lower interest rates.
But I absolutely disagree with Roubini on that nonsense of China taking
over in ten year a role as a reserve currency, when it cannot even afford
that the dollar loses that status. Yes there are very serious troubles awaiting
the US and the dollar but, first, China at their current level of development,
would not last one day suffering the “reserve currency curse” which would
immediately halt their exports, and second, even if the US would default
and their current dollar sink, the world would, the morning after, be willing
to accept its New Dollars.
Mort Twain:
“Nothing has changed.” “Mistakes were made.” “Nobody could have predicted
it.” Those are just some of the new excuse lines being used to explain away
the collapse of the Roman Empire which is now us. Such stupidity and corrpution
is always rewarded by nature by a process knowns as extinction.
Travis Bickle “It was a Perfect Storm…..”
Per Kurowski
No this storm was manmade by regulators. By allowing banks to lend with
almost nonexistent capital requirements whenever it had something to do
with triple-A ratings the markets did what they normally do when there is
a great demand for it, they supplied triple-As, albeit fake triple-As… and
here we are up to our tilt in lousy triple-As, mostly sovereign, in a world
of uncertainty where a real triple-A is almost a specie in extinction.
jonboinAR:
You don’t think that it’s possible for the Renmimbi (sp?) to take over
reserve status in 10 years if the current pace keeps up of China absorbing
the world’s, particularly the US’s, manufacturing? At the current, or recent,
pace, mind you, if something doesn’t change.
Per Kurowski
No I don’t. A reserve currency is one that is a strong currency and China
has grown because the world has allowed it to be a weak currency. Also before
there is not more fundamental political reform in China I do not see many
but speculators wishing to place their life savings there.
erichwwk:
Jon Stewart gives a fairly terse description of how it is now. The financial
game has been rigged for a verey long time.
I think that reorganization of the American society after WWII to fight the
USSR did some long lasting damage the scope of which only now is becoming clear.
likbez:
I think Shiller fascination with animal spirits does him a disservices.
This is something different in the collapse of complex, ideologically driven
societies that we live in.
Society as a whole is driven by ideology and if ideology is bankrupt
like in the case with the USA, the society is in real trouble. It tend to
continue the slide down the slope despite best efforts to cheer up unwashed
masses by the bankrupt elite. Such a society is in deeper troubles then
low level of those elusive animal spirits.
The United States are facing fundamental challenges to the legitimacy
of the elite. This simultaneous a crisis of confidence of people and ideological
and intellectual bankruptcy of the elite (for example Greenspan now look
like a curious mixture of white collar criminal with a clown; Rubin and
his gang are even worse) make the crisis different from any other. There
is a real crisis of governance with Republican Taliban hell bent on defending
the indefensible.
Peak oil is another factor -- might be an end of perma growth stage of
the human colony on this planet.pof labor can not be usefully employed to
build productive capital to produce those substitutes?
Or is the economy a zero sum game are the world economy has hit the ceiling
and every gain in India and China requires a reduction in the US and Europe?
Perhaps the problem is the crisis of confidence Jimmy Carter talked about,
and that Ron Reagan dismissed by saying "there's morning in America, what
me worry, just keep believing oil will never go up in price, and that we
never need to change anything."
If you read Jimmy Carter's address more than three decades ago, we are basically
in the same place with no progress on any challenge in the US. In more than
Europe, higher oil prices have limited direct impact for the price of oil
incorporates much more of the real economic costs of using oil, so a jump
in price of oil results in a much smaller price in energy. Of course, the
shock in the US which Carter identified as something to eliminate, but Reagan
chose to wish away, seems to hurt the economy which ripples throughout the
global economy. Wouldn't the economies of the world be more stable if they
quarantined the US economy?
The overt “libertarians” are just a particularly obnoxious tip of the whole
neoliberal corporatist iceberg.
May 15, 2010
Tao Jonesing:
@attempter,
Your penultimate paragraph was AWESOME. The rest was darn good, too.
Answering Yves’ question: like everything else,
the proper libertarian response is that the spill is the government’s
fault!
In “Moral Politics,” George Lakoff argued that modern liberals share
a “nurturing parent” attitude, while modern conservatives share a “strict
father” attitude.
Personally, I think conservatives (including the Mises.org libertarians)
are actually children, not grownups. They insist on requiring something
in their lives to take on a superhuman, godlike quality, and they blame
that something when it fails to live up to expectations in order to shift
blame from their own failings.
That something used to be women’s virtue: in spite of the fact that every
man did his best to have “relations” with a woman out of wedlock, if the
man actually succeeded, it was the woman’s fault and the man was blameless.
With the change of societal norms in the 1920s and 1930s, the government
became target of impossible standards. Now, when the government gets debauched
by a businessman pursing his own self interest, it is the government’s fault
for not stopping the businessman, who we can’t punish because he was just
pursuing his natural urges.
Demanding perfection of somebody else in order to excuse one’s own imperfection
is very childish behavior, and libertarians are among the most petulant
children I’ve come across.
That being said, libertarians are largely
irrelevant to this discussion. They’re just the radical true believers of
neo-liberalism (which is neither new nor liberal). While neo-liberal “thought”
dominates both parties these days, there’s no way to argue that the liberetards
are in charge.
Besides, casting blame is of no value. The real question is how to set
policy in view of this tragedy? Neo-liberal doctrine faces a major challenge,
and, as long as we don’t get distracted by beating on liberetards, it is
an easy target. We need to focus on destroying the myths of the “free market”
that Uncle Milty created to perpetuate a new form of feudalism while pretending
to be a classical liberal.
attempter:
I agree, the overt “libertarians” are just a particularly obnoxious tip
of the whole neoliberal corporatist iceberg. (Although historically they
had an outsize influence as ideologues and opinions leaders. So today anti-corporatists
must replicate the plan and constitute the anti-Chicago.)
Bookit:
“We need to focus on destroying the myths of the “free market” that Uncle
Milty created to perpetuate a new form of feudalism while pretending to
be a classical liberal.”
Superb! This is the key point, as far as I’m concerned. We forget that
Adam Smith wasn’t just opposed to “big gub’mint” like Sarah Palin, but rather
was critical of the king’s government because the king was propped up by
(and was propping up) a landed aristocracy that Smith found to be stifling
trade and investment and, in modern terms, allocating resources unproductively.
The modern large-scale, government-coddled corporation is a legal “person”
which contradicts, in almost every sense, what 18th-century Whigs thought
a “citizen” should be. What these massive institutions really are doing
is recreating a 21st-century aristocracy of corporate persons that is STIFLING
entrepreneurship and personal independency (two things libertarians are
supposed to like) as Adam Smith’s hated aristocracy never did. They are
trying to construct a RENT economy based on property rights rather than
a true capitalist economy based on making, selling, and buying things. They
are, in effect, closing off the openness Smith tried so hard to wrest from
the lords and barons of his time.
Greg:
The other myth that needs to be destroyed, which is also very popular
amongst the libertarians is the Self Made Man myth.
This myth has probably led to more destruction of our way of life the
last 30 yrs than anything else, I contend. The ” I got mine now you work
for yours” attitude has been taken to such an extreme, the proponents have
lost all humility and sense of gratitude for what has been done by others.
attempter:
This is the kind of thing that utterly defeats their lies, on many levels.
1. The oil, if it can be said to “belong” to anyone in the first place,
belongs to the people, so on its face it was robbery to have anything other
than a national oil industry, which might at most use private service companies
as hired contractors only.
2. Undersea drilling is a monumental undertaking which could never find
private funding with no massive government backing and backstops. Since
by definition the project must either be corporatist or fully nationalized,
again it’s clearly nothing but unproductive looting to allow anyone to extract
a private rent.
A true libertarian, if any such existed,
would say that if an economic project can’t be done without massive government
“investment” and backstopping, it shouldn’t be done at all.
3. It was always a flat out lie when the likes of Milton Friedman flippantly
said “tort law can handle all harms”. How could BP pay the infinite damages
here even if it were willing to, the way the libertarians claimed it would
be?
4. But of course rackets like this aren’t willing to pay for the destruction
they cause, and they rig the system to absolve themselves of having to.
Thus BP received every waiver imaginable, didn’t have to take out any insurance
at all let alone the trillion dollar policy which should have been required.
Meanwhile it’s apparently only subject to a $75 million liability cap, and
as we speak the Democrats are allowing a bill to modestly raise this limit
to be held up by Republican. That’s a perfect example of the rigged system
the libertarians always lie and claim doesn’t exist.
There’s your Friedman tort safeguard in action, functioning exactly
the way he always really meant when he told such lies, the way he always
knew and intended it would function.
The fact is that economic libertarianism was never anything other than
a stalking horse for the dictatorship of big corporations. The goal has
always been to lift all responsibilities from the holders of concentrated
wealth and property and remove all restrictions on their rapacity, aggression,
and destruction, even while big government is maintained as a looting mechanism,
to force the politically weak to be the initial cash cow and to take on
the cost and the risk, and to aggressively uphold this property regime.
(The lie that it’s possible to have large-scale concentrated property and
wealth at all without a very big, aggressive government is intellectually
identical to saying “Keep your government hands off my Medicare!”)
The result is the kleptocracy we have today. The result is Bailout America.
Toby:
Excellent work attempter! And Tao Jonesing too (aside from clicking the
wrong reply button
) Good observations on the childishness of expecting perfection from Them
Out There. You might be interested in Charles Eisenstein’s thinking on transitioning
from Mother Earth thinking (we always take from our mothers) to Lover
Earth (we share with our lovers, and love them too).
Neoliberalism is dead in the water, to use an unfortunate and appropriate
metaphor.’Freedom’ has just led to what, if things go very badly from here,
could be an extinction level event. If things go ‘well’ we still have a
crime against the ecosystem so appalling punishment is virtually beside
the point. I’m thousands of miles away from this but it’s keeping me away
at night. And almost as sickening as the crime itself are the justifications
and casuistries employed to pass the blame around like some fetid turd.
And Tony Hayward might lose his job. Oh how awful.
Obviously I hope they get this under control, and quickly. But I hope
too this terrible event is the final impetus humanity needs to transition
away from fossil fuels, and towards a new socioeconomic system capable of
true sustainability. Getting some trust back into life might be nice too.
attempter:
The demand for perfection is partially “sincere”
childishness, but also a calculated plan. The “starve the
beast” strategy is to demand government live up to all the things starry-eyed
liberals allegedly claimed for it, while ensuring its complete failure by
gutting it of funds, staff, resources. Then after the inevitable failure,
claim it’s the failure of the idea itself.
And then we have the orphan defense, where at every level but especially
from the bank flacks we see how, after the bank rackets engaged in a concerted
strategy to corrupt legislators and buy deregulation from them, they now
turn around and blamll the power we need by wearing those silly hats with
the propellers on them and leave “Mother Earth” un-fouled.
DownSouth:
Yea. And maybe we can create all the energy we need by capturing all
the hot air given off by a bunch of arrogant, self-rightous, over-confident
libertarians. These pompous know-it-alls have been in control of our government
for the last 30 years, and what has it brought us: an earthly paradise for
the rich, and elbows and assholes for everybody else.
Libercontrarian:
“It was always a flat out lie when the likes of Milton Friedman flippantly
said “tort law can handle all harms”. How could BP pay the infinite damages
here even if it were willing to, the way the libertarians claimed it would
be?”
Actually, limited liability through corporate form is a government sponsored
fiction designed to encourage economic risk taking. If limited liability
could not be judicially (governmentally) enforced and individual shareholders
and their assets were on the hook for the Deepwater Horizon damages, there
would be enough resources to pay the damages (which are surely not infinite;
my tap poured clean water just a minute ago). And of course, if shareholders
knew that they were personally liable for damages from disasters like Deepwater
Horizon, the cost of raising capital for such a venture might quickly become
prohibitive. I think that is the true libertarian argument you were looking
for, no?
As you note very ably, Milton Friedman was not a libertarian. He was
as much a corporate socialist as Keynes. The true libertarian you describe
only exists outside the corridors of power.
DownSouth:
Libercontrarian,
Your argument is nonsense. It assumes that the threat of monumental personal
loss is sufficient motivation to keep our masters of the universe from making
bad decisions.
This is a half-truth, and half-truths form the heart and soul of libertarianism.
I had a poker buddy who was a pilot for a prominent independent oil firm
in Midland, Texas. He took some of the muckety-mucks up to Hobbs, New Mexico
one morning for a meeting. Bad weather set in, but that wasn’t enough to
deter our masters of the universe from their plans. They thought they could
fool mother nature.
They were wrong. The plane went down in a storm, and everyone aboard,
including my friend, was killed.
People make bad decisions, even the masters of the universe.
And the notion that others don’t pay the price for the bad decisions
of the masters of the universe is so nonsensical as to be laughable.
Libercontrarian:
DownSouth: I am sorry that you lost your friend. The Masters of the Universe
you describe were as much creatures of a society where reckless action has
little to no consequence, where risk of loss is born by others, and where
liability can be limited, as they were stupid. And, unfortunately, you cannot
regulate human stupidity out of existence.
“[W]e must consider the impact of our decisions on the next seven generations.”
The Great Law of the Iroquois Confederacy
DownSouth:
A society where reckless action has little to no consequence?
You call losing your life “no consequence”?
These guys paid the ultimate price for their bad judgment.
It belies the entire libertarian assumption
that the threat of losing money or property will prevent people from making
bad judgments.
Andrew Bissell:
People make bad decisions, even the masters of the universe.
Everyone except the regulators, right?
DownSouth:
Who ever said the regulators didn’t make mistakes?
I certainly didn’t.
But I did ask the question: Who paid the regulators to look the other way?
Lethal to the idologies of the libertarians
is the fact that most people do have some sort of moral compass, and most
judge crimes of commission more harshly than crimes of omission.
Michael Aronstein, chief investment strategist at Oscar Gruss & Son Inc.,
and Joshua Rosner, managing director for Graham Fisher & Co., talk with Bloomberg's
Matt Miller and Carol Massar about Europe's sovereign-debt crisis and U.S. efforts
at financial regulatory overhaul. Aronstein calls the rescue and austerity measures
"deflationary."
May 15 (Bloomberg) -- Greece is considering taking legal action against U.S.
investment banks that might have contributed to the country’s debt crisis, Prime
Minister
George Papandreou said.
“I wouldn’t rule out that this may be a recourse,” Papandreou said, in response
to questions about the role of U.S. banks in the crisis, in an interview on
CNN’s “Fareed Zakaria GPS.” The program, scheduled to air tomorrow, was taped
on May 13. Neither Papandreou nor Zakaria mentioned any banks by name.
U.S. stocks fell and the euro slumped on concern that Europe wouldn’t be
able to contain the debt crisis stemming from Greece. The Standard & Poor’s
500
Index declined 1.9 percent yesterday, while the euro fell below $1.24 for
the first time since November 2008.
Papandreou said the decision on whether to go after U.S. banks will be made
after a Greek parliamentary investigation into the cause of the crisis.
“Greece will look into the past and see how things went,” Papandreou said.
“There are similar investigations going on in other countries and in the United
States. This is where I think, yes, the financial sector, I hear the words fraud
and lack of transparency. So yes, yes, there is great responsibility here.”
Speculators
In the days leading up to the May 10 announcement of a loan package worth
almost $1 trillion to halt the spread of Greece’s fiscal woes, European Union
regulators were examining whether speculators manipulated the prices of bonds
and equities and contributed to the crisis.
The Committee of European Securities Regulators said on May 7 it was investigating
“exceptional volatility” in the markets and would work with other regulators,
including the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, as part of a coordinated
clampdown.
European Central Bank President
Jean-Claude Trichet said May 6 that he was concerned about
speculation in bond markets using credit default
swaps. “By first buying the CDS and then trying to affect market
sentiment by going short on the underlying bond, investors can make large profits,”
he said.
Credit-default swaps are derivatives that pay the buyer face value if a borrower
-- a country or a company -- defaults. In exchange, the swap seller gets the
underlying securities or the cash equivalent. Traders in naked credit-default
swaps buy insurance on bonds they don’t own.
In the CNN interview, Papandreou said many in the international community
have engaged in “Greek bashing” and find it easy “to scapegoat Greece.” He said
Greeks “are a hard-working people. We are a proud people.”
“We have made our mistakes,” Papandreou said. “We are living up to this responsibility.
But at the same time, give us a chance. We’ll show you.”
I suppose it would be pandering to the electorate in the sense that his
overall plan is to economically liquidate that same electorate in order
to bail out the big Euro banks without having to tax the Greek rich, so
in light of that the proposal to sue American speculators is just misdirective
political theater. In the real thrust of policy Papandreou is a bankster
flunkey.
But as for the substance of it, the
speculators themselves are of course terrorists by any definition which
includes economic attacks, and should be dealt with as such.
Do the rigged “laws” say otherwise? Probably – it’s characteristic of
the kleptocracy, including its “war on terror” manifestation, that there
is no rule of law, but just a humpty-dumpty might makes right regime. By
definition it’s not terrorism when the rich do it.
I like the Orwellianism of how “protection” has become a bad word. It’s
true that what are called protectionist measures are often actually aggressive,
as in the way America and Europe act to “protect” their agricultural rackets
at the same time that they seek to empower the predation and aggression
of these rackets all over the Global South.
But protection can also still mean what it’s supposed to mean in the
English language – prudence, vigilance, self-defense, and in this
case real, not Orwellian, anti-terrorism.
Yeah, I tried to tell people back in '08 - when Soros says "this shit
is retarded," as he did in a speech at Columbia, he will do his damndest
to rip the balls off every penny ante government out there, so long as he's
still breathing.
He fled the Nazis. He remembers. He takes no shit. I disagree with his
approach in many respects (and I find his philanthropic efforts both misguided
and damaging), but when he speaks, the only people who matter listen.
The media is just so deluded that they're not worth listening to. It's
worse than Pravda in the USSR or even your typical Chinese paper. They're
much, much dumber, much more corrupt, and most of these bastards fail to
even turn a profit.
Bringin It 22:53:
Great post and I'm especially happy to see recognition of this -
It's worse than Pravda in the USSR. Because it's true.
I remember in the 60's mocking US news reels of what dumb gruel they
had to swallow over there. Now here we are with Americans trapped
in their own glass bubble.
Augustus - 22:59:
The people reading Pravda all knew that is was pure propaganda.
They were much wiser that what we have for an educated American public.
It is self induced ignorance here.
akak - 00:21:
I used this exact same analogy with a friend a few days ago, comparing
the captive US corporate media to the USSR's old Pravda and
Izvestia. He thought the comparison was extreme --- I told him
it was probably much closer than most Americans could possibly realize.
But of course, most of us here already know that.
pak - 04:22:
+10
According to Orwell, "happiness can exist
only in acceptance."
I would argue that even in former Soviet Bloc countries, the citizenry
these days is much more delusional and naive than 30-40 years ago. Apparently,
people enjoy being idiots because that essentially makes them happy.
ArmchairRevolut... - 07:06:
This is absolutely true. Some people will get angry with you if you enlighten
them, because it takes them from their happy (ignorant) place.
pak - 08:55:
You'll certainly like this one, also from Orwell:
"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary
act."
The problem is - these days "the ruling circles" wouldn't try to suppress
you or destroy you physically. Instead, they'd try to put a tinfoil hat
on you. If you don't allow that, they'll call you "immature" or "populist".
Just follow the financial reform debate, and you'll see how it works..
Vampire Squid is the product of fiat financial system and deregulation. They
tried to hack financial system to extract parasitic rents and enjoyed success beyond
imagination, but this is not a computer were damage is limited. This is a
society that sustained damage. So they cut the branch on which they were sitting.
Now they need to be shut down and perpetrators need to go to jail. But it's easier
said than done. Those are Mafiosi, or financial terrorists in the most exact meaning
of this word including the secrecy of the planned operations. To penetrate inner
circle of those companies you need three letter agencies and covert agents. Regular
investigations will be subverted.
This whole thing was a fraud of absolutely massive proporions. Some charges
need to come, and Goldman among others was very deep into alot of grey areas.
If you have ever heard the term 'regulatory arbitrage' you know that these
guys were playing a dangerous game. Whether that behavior is actually illegal
needs to be tested in a court. By the way alot of these things need to regulated
away. Synthetic CDOs provide completely useless leverage in most cases,
they are not a mechanism of capital allocation and are not always used for
risk mitigation, they were generally directional unhedged trades. Let the
charges come, let the rules be tested in court and let the regulation come
for poor products. No one wants to see this thing happen all over again.
Regulatory arbitrage occurred between insurance companies and Investment
Banks. Insurance companies had different ways of valuing credit default
protection, thus giving rise to the "Arb" which you refer to. The monoline
insurance companies (AIG, AXA, ACE, AMBAC) always sold CDO tranche protection.
I always thought it was underpriced. I noticed that AIG was on the other
side of every single deal. When I raised this issue at Bank of America in
2001 I was told that I didn't understand this, AIG was AAA, and besides
"we are making money". The guy who told me this was later fired for, among
other things, selling equity CDO tranches to a retail Italian Bank - BoA
settled for $80MM.
Peter Marlow:
Goldman is a criminal enterprise. The charges and investigations will
make this obvious. And then, another obvious conclusion will follow:
"a product of pure intellectual masturbation…which has no purpose,
which is absolutely conceptual and highly theoretical and which nobody knows
how to price."
I am wondering if the investors who bought the CDOs share his sexual fantasy?
I wish people, media in particular, would stop with the buzzwords and
stupid comparisons and tell people what really happened. CDOs have an implied
default rate in them at which investors of different tranches break even.
However since each underlying mortgage is its own universe those are very
difficult to guess. But there are two big factors which really matter, one
is the overall direction of the economy and employment in particular which
dictates housing prices and cash on hand to make payments. The second is
correlation between the different mortgages. These led to two fatal assumptions
in the way these things are priced. The two assumptions were that the economy
would stay strong and this would support housing prices and ability to pay,
the second was that mortgages in different geographical areas would have
largely uncorrelated default rates. So if people in AZ couldn't pay, your
people in Florida probably could, your CDO is more robust because it is
diversified. There is huge amounts of historical data available about default
correlations, home price behavior during different phases of the business
cycle, etc. What people didn't realize is that
when they were making these products, they made so many that they fundamentally
altered the forces that created the data they were using to price the securities.
Basically they unwittingly created a circular system that put the economy
into seemingly virtuous cycle of rising home prices, strong economic performance,
high employment etc. this reinforced the original assumptions and people
engaged in more of this behavior. Of course
we all know now that it was a vicious cycle of increasing risk and artificial
returns that created an ever more unstable system. finally the wind blew
and the straw house fell down.
Until it all fell apart people thought they could price these things. The
theory of it is all there, but the theory of it is only as good as the data
that theoretical models employ, and in their circular would their own activities
affected the integrity of the data.
Synthetic CDOs are much more theoretical because they were one more step
removed from reality. They just became a numbers game where you customized
an asset to beat a model that a ratings agency was using. It really is a
problem when the fox and the hound get too cozy, they are supposed to be
adversarial. It's what keeps us all safe.
George Macdonald:
It was neither Freddit not Fannie who knowingly wrote bad mortagages,
securitized them, and then paid off the ratings agenicies to give them AAA
ratings.
True, Freddie and Fannie were doing the bidding of the Bush administration
to suck some of those bad mortgages --- but they were not the root cause
of the problem. It was the criminals at Countrywide, GS, Citibank, etc....
George Macdonald:
The Wall Street Financial Houses committed fraud on a massive scale --
Goldman was just one odf many. And, that massive fraud brought this nation
to its knees -- and it may never recover from the damage that it (and the
Bush Administration) have done to it...
The trouble is: NONE of them have admitted to doing anything wrong. And,
most importantly, they are continuing the practices that got them and us
into this financial crisis...
There is only one thing that will work: enforce the law: First, put some
of the higher ups in jail and also take away the money that they stole from
innocent investors who trusted the information that they were given when
they bought into the scam these guys were running.
For those who cry" "Buyer Beware!" (i.e., that it is up to the buyer to
figure out if he is being scammed): The NYSE cannot exist without some assurance
that the representations made for the securities that are being sold are
as they are represented to be. Anything else is fraud.
Why exactly does “someone have to provide liquidity”? Does he even know
what “liquidity” means?
American Heritage, 4th:
liquidity: 1) the state of being liquid; 2) the quality of being readily
convertible to cash.
So long as something is convertible to cash, it is liquid, even if the
amount of cash that it gets in conversion does not meet the expectations
of the converter.
Then what does it mean to provide “liquidity”? To provide cash? I thought
cash is what market participants brought to the table, if the market is
traded in cash and not on a barter system. There’s no reason any entity
should be expected to make up cash/liquidity shortfalls. A liquidity shortfall
is another way of saying somebody doesn’t have as much cash as they want,
and well, isn’t that piece of information a part of the whole reason for
the price-discovery mechanism that is a functioning market?
Mark
E Hoffer:
jjay,
seems a popular meme:
Slouching towards neofeudalism
“….If you really want to know why the cities and states are so broke,
then you must first ask yourself where all the money went. Was the firefighter
down the street from you buying vacation yachts for his tropical island?
Probably not.
However, the guys on Wall Street who sold your school district, county,
and state governments complicated financial derivative products are buying
yachts for their tropical islands. Maybe we should start there instead.
Detroit Mayor Dave Bing is struggling to save his city from fiscal calamity.
Unemployment is at a record 28% and rising, while home prices have plunged
39% since 2007. The 66-year-old Bing, a former NBA all-star with the Detroit
Pistons who took office 10 months ago, faces a $300 million budget deficit—and
few ways to make up the difference.
Against that bleak backdrop, Wall Street is squeezing one of America’s weakest
cities for every penny it can. A few years ago, Detroit struck a derivatives
deal with UBS (UBS) and other banks that allowed it to save more than $2
million a year in interest on $800 million worth of bonds. But the fine
print carried a potentially devastating condition. If the city’s credit
rating dropped, the banks could opt out of the deal and demand a sizable
breakup fee. That’s precisely what happened in January: After years of fiscal
trouble, Detroit saw its credit rating slashed to junk. Suddenly the sputtering
Motor City was on the hook for a $400 million tab.
What most often happened is that Wall Street rating agencies, the same
agencies implicated in corrupt business practices, downgraded the municipal
bonds, thus turning the the financial deals into an albatross for broke
cities, but a profitable one for Wall Street….”
I would say we got to this mess as a consequence of many factors:
Trillions spent on a war on drugs, a war on poverty, a war on Vietnam/AfPakIraq
with no results.
Trillions spent on an Energy department, Housing departments, Education
department with no results, and in the case of housing and education very
negative results.
Jobs and factories sent out of here via NAFTA, CAFTA,GATT etc. destroying
the tax base in the process.
Urestricted legal and illegal immigration since 1965 with very negative
results.
Exponential growth of employment in government at federal, State, and local
levels, military included.
Increasing concentration of wealth via Corporate Raiders, ignoring Sherman
Anti Trust Act, etc.
Increasing large scale criminal activity condoned by the government starting
with Lincoln Savings and the Keating Five, through Madoff et al, right up
to the present mess.
Finally an increasingly profligate Federal Reserve after Volcker left.
I’m sure we could expand this list to fill a book.
Mannwich:
@jjay: Which leads me to believe that most of our “problems” are borne
of “culture” and not easily reversed overnight, and maybe not reversible
at all. The Romans would tell you if they were still alive today.
FT Alphaville continues to be amazed at the hypocrisy
of politicians and officials around the world, particularly as regards their
attacks on so-called “wolfpacks”
of speculators.
The most recent and rather brazen example of
doublespeak — in which speculation regarding the solvency of a country or
the strength of a currency is fine only when they’re doing it — comes courtesy
of Jean-Pierre Jouyet, on the subject of the UK.
“The English are very certainly going to be targeted given the political
difficulties they have. Help yourself and heaven will help you. If you don’t
want to show solidarity to the eurozone, then let’s see what happens to
the United Kingdom,” he told Europe 1 radio.
This is same Jouyet who less than a week ago
declared war on those who dared to “spread unfounded rumours” or bet against
the euro:
French financial authorities will work with intelligence services to
crack down on speculators seeking to profit from the debt crisis by spreading
unfounded rumors, the head of the AMF markets watchdog said on Friday
Shades of Greece’s deputy prime minister Theodoros Pangalos casting
aspersions on Portugal, and those US lawmakers who are fond of condemning
short-sellers as “un-American” while blithely
betting on falling stocks for their own accounts.
Way to get market participants — those investment banks who will arrange
your bond offerings and the
hedge funds you desperately need to buy your debt– on side, les gars.
But for now, the important thing is to understand that both Europe and the
United States are facing fundamental challenges to the legitimacy of, if not
the regime, then at least the manner in which the regime has handled itself.
The geopolitical significance of this crisis is obvious. If the Americans and
Europeans both enter a period in which managing the internal balance becomes
more pressing than managing the global balance, then other powers will have
enhanced windows of opportunities to redefine their regional balances.
Itzman
I must get round to reviewing 'The collapse of complex societies': It
is a model that really covers all of this territory very well.
pegnu:
it is a global political/financial/economic crisis quite right
It is time to take on the financial oligarchs and kick out the lobbyists
and special interest groups.
The stock market’s a collective terrorist entity, like a malevolent column
of army ants.
LJ:
I posted this further down: Barry Ritzholz does give some credibility
to the conspiracy slant to the crash.
Rex:
Well, I’ve been looking for an explanation of the drop that made sense.
I guess this is it, but as a casual observer the graphs and buzz words are
mostly gibberish. I think I get the general gist, though.
Wasn’t the original purpose of the stock market so that people could invest
some money with companies that they thought might grow or at least generate
steady income, in hopes of sharing in the rewards for the investment of
their money?
Seems very clear to me that that simplistic idea is now abstracted beyond
any recognition into a giant crap shoot casino game, where the actual companies
really don’t matter much in driving the market up and down.
Quants and algos and schemes and ploys seem to be the whole purpose for
the big fish in this cesspool. The incredibly fast drop and bounce back
on Thursday made it pretty certain to me that the machines must be driving
most of it. Especially with no special spark to start or stop it.
The game is all. Underlying reality of the actual companies hardly matters
anymore.
In Vegas, card counting can get you thrown out of the game, not to even
think of using a computer. The current Wall Street sham is like a bad Sci
Fi movie where the geniuses have populated the world with robots to make
our lives better, but alas, there is a flaw in the design and the robots
start teaming together and killing us. Some of this could still be turned
off if the masters could be awakened to the true demented nature of their
creation.
I managed to accumulate a bit of money and was happy for a while thinking
I could make safe investments and live happily ever after. As luck would
have it, it now seems the whole game is rigged; a simple strategy makes
me a guppy. The assholes running the asylum are living in their own insane
reality. What are the rest of us to do?
jake chase:
Well, you can’t do anything except place a bet. Everything has a price but
nothing has value, so tomorrow’s price is anybody’s guess. Once again the
problem is leverage, derivative bets, quantum money. The idea that a specialist
system could solve anything ersal masters of finance, grist for the bonemeal
in the bread of the ogres of capital (to spawn a metaphor or two, hey!).
Between massive but blunt government shadow interventions that only want
assets to go up, high freqs with their death-of-a-billion-nanoctus shaving
the coin on normal investors day in and day out, and CDS speculators completely
distorting the function of equity markets—to raise liquid investment capital—into
wholly predatory mulit-dimensional roulette jigs, these markets are no safe
place to place or make money.
This is what we have come to from ‘financial innovation’: digital piracy.
If we ultimately get functional reforms to change this state of affairs,
it won’t be due to the ire of us in the blogosphere, I fear. It will come
from the political revolt of the bulk of the investor class who are being
grossly cheated by the Wide Boys and the upper government pay grades captivated
by the same. It won’t be a populist revolt which brings change in short,
but a capitalist one from those just outside the oligarchy. This can’t come
too soon
Skippy:
Gaming platform pure and simple.
If your new or uninformed your a nub, after a bit some pros might throw
you a bone (give up secrets), if your likable or assist them cheating the
system/rules, then your a regular, if your driven enough and learn all you
can, and apply it with success, you become a pro, and other pros will accept
you for your ability to kill/score points. As long as you don’t go after
them! Then they gang up and go after you! Which at that point you band together
to kill the nubs with relish and glee.
The server nodes around the world for the markets, are just the same for
gaming. Bigger/faster more populated platform’s make more money/get more
kills for pros.
I can create key macros to the millisecond 10 keystrokes long or scripts
to enact complicated action sets with out error…find exploits in the system,
holes in the rendering missed by mappers (get under, inside, outside regulated
play areas and kill with impunity) or do some grifting (go on opposite team
to crate distractions or play poorly to effect the out come of the match)…HFT/darkpools
any one.
Disclaimer: I personally play default, more of a challenge that way and
it real pisses off the exploiters, to no end, when they spec me.
Kids don’t play these games, most are well educated males in technical or
management positions…some mates of mine are nuclear plant engineers, work
for Bechtel, security firms, own or run small/medium server nodes etc.
BTW over the last 10 years many of our young university mathematicians,
computer hardware and software engineers start off their learning on gaming
platforms. Hell even the HQ for Ernst & Young in my region, less that 2
years ago had in house Friday HL2DM (half-life 2 death match) tournaments
between departments to sharpen the killer instinct, pull the trigger reflex.
Personally I find all this sophistry surrounding the markets, money creation
and destruction, MMT, political nuance and any more steaming excrement you
can find to pile on top of this epic fail, the mother of all snow jobs,
a true blizzard of lies and deceit, of which your serf ass is slowly carved
and steamed and placed before your betters for their gastronomic delight…Bon
Appétit.
Disclaimer: I’m full out now, not one red cent invested, less than 5k in
the bank, no credit cards/cash only, ZERO debt and will stay that way for
ever after, and instructing my kids to do the same when they enter the real
world.
Skippy…simple FPS (first person shooter) gaming platform-gaming psychology
101, that’s what Wall st has evolved into, added and abetted by the technology
is always…the way forward crowd.
PS. how does it feel to have your life’s toil 401K, Insurance life/health,
Mortgage/House, small to medium Business ranked nub status…if they want
you, your dead…got that, every part of the system is in their favor, its
their system, and every person out side the system control room is just
electrons to be traded, from citizens to consumers to electrons…got that.
En Fin…proceed resumption of sophist nuance whilst Hannibal feeds you…your
frontal lobe.
Siggy:
Very good and plausible explanation of the Big Dive. It puzzels me as
to why the comments are so strident and crumpled aluminum hat oriented.
If you noticed, the bear market rally from the lows occured on relatively
thin volume; i.e., not much buying strength and not much resistance because
sellers had sold. Now comes a concerted move by the makers of the rally
to capture profits; ergo, sell in May and Go Away.
As structured, the markets did what they were programed to do and voila,
you have a nifty little 700 down and up move on the DOW. I’m not a Cramer
fan and not especially enamored of CNBC, nonethless I just happened to see
him opine on the P&G flop flip as it occurred. His observations on P&G are
cogent in a way that is different than what he expressed directly. As I
see it a knowledgable trader wouldn’t sell P&G down that deeply while an
algo would. Similarly, knowledagble traders will buy into a selloff if the
fundamentals for the asset and the economy are is stable to improving.
I am reminded of the day Kennedy was shot. Market sold off, we lost a whole
train of soybean oil and trading was suspended. My little OTC book went
very long taking all offers. Like it or not the sun was going to rise on
the morrow and there is a very nice Constitutional provision for the contigency
of the President’s death. Waited a week, went flat and pocketed a very nice
profit and a lovely little bonus in an otherwise mediocre year.
Clearly there are flaws in the current market structure and the controls
that are in place. It occurrs to me that eliminating volatility may not
be an entirely desirable objective. I always wondered where the specialist
went when we had major selloffs. Couldn’t get a bid from him and he’d have
been a fool to offer one. Always felt that the liquidity function was a
dodge.
Thanks again for this very helpful explanation.
Ronald:
Hopefully they can keep the food distribution system operating and the
lights on! Clearly the political class has become disconnected from real
time as they look further to paper over financial events with digital strokes
but our JIT food distribution system only has a couple days of inventory
which could could not be restocked by pushing a few buttons on the screen!
Victor:
If you want a good laugh, check out today’s Dow Jones graph. No volatility
whatsoever. Either everyone is on their best behavior, or computerized trading
has been banned. The bad boys are just sauntering along with their hands
in their pockets, whistling some innocuous tune — waiting for the next “big”
opportunity. First time tragedy, next time farce. Thank you, Karl Marx.
mlberks:
See also Paul Kedrosky’s piece on the “Shadow Liquidity System” at
http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2010/05/run_on_the_shad.html
I do not pretend to know what many ignorant men are sure of.
-Clarence Darrow
This is the biggest block in our series on market manipulation. We’re
working toward an answer. How do international banks manipulate the markets
to service the U.S. war debt? Make no mistake about the crash on Thursday.
That was no “fat finger” trader or an “M” accidentally being a “B” nonsense.
Unless you hear “international banks” and “leverage” and “unwind” in the same
sentence, it’s not a valid explanation. It takes hundreds of billions
to make a wave in the equities market like that. It was the fastest point
drop in the history of the market. Only something an international bank
is capable of. The rest of us are just trying not to drown in their wake.
How to Lose Money Betting the Market Will Crash on the Day it Crashes
If George Carlin could could have designed an ETF it would be FAZ.
Maybe even with the same name. It’s an ultra bear’s dream come true.
A way to profit as America circles the drain with Armageddon banker zombies
roaming the streets while cities burn. FAZ is a stock that can make +15%
while the banks crash -5%. You’d think it was the perfect stock to trade
last Thursday. It’s one of the fewer and fewer ways a retail trader can
profit during a market crash. There’s a catch.
The crash locked out anyone trying to exit
with profit. By the end of the day, if you bought FAZ right
before the crash, you actually had a loss.
How could this happen? NASDAQ is the market maker for retail brokers
in FAZ. They control the bid/ask and retail orders go through them.
The problem is NASDAQ froze all exits on FAZ until the market closed.
They canceled trading in
256 names. What is suspect is
FAZ, and many other frozen stocks, are not on that list. The
only way to exit FAZ was to sell in the after hours market on Thursday or wait
for Friday’s open. Essentially Thursday’s crash created a no-bid market
for FAZ and many other stocks. How do you get zero bids on a stock that
trades 165M shares in a day?
Max Keiser, the man who invented high frequency trading (HFT) source code,
explains:
Remove all the buy orders that you control (since HFT traffic is 70%
of the order flow, if you simply pull your HFT buy orders, you remove a
huge chunk of the market – in a heartbeat – leaving a sudden price vacuum).
If you wanted to scare congress to vote the way you wanted them to vote
– a congress that is directly invested in stocks trading on the exchange
and ETF’s tied to the prices on the exchange – just pull your buys. When
they do what you want them to do–replace your buys. If you want to make
the market go up–pull your sell orders. It works both ways. (It’s all detailed
in my Virtual Specialist Technology patent –- how to make markets in an
‘infinite inventory environment.’) (Huffington
Post)
Keiser is describing a perpetual cash machine for market manipulators.
We’ll cover that later in this story. Another method to lockout FAZ is
this:
A swap blows up
The counterparty exposed to the swap blows up
All swaps in that tranche are frozen
The market crashes
ETFs trading those swaps are locked out
The over-the-counter derivatives market could be a contributing reason why
FAZ wouldn’t sell on Thursday. Most ETFs are derivative products that
mimic an index, which happen to trade on stock exchanges. So you have
an unregulated OTC instrument moonlighting on a regulated exchange. If
a swap blows up (as the Euro made a new low) it would logically effect ETFs.
Virtually none of the stock ETFs trade
in equities. They don’t own baskets of stocks. They own baskets
in swaps and futures contracts.
Fidelity has been marketing some 20 ETFs which their clients can trade for
“free.” How many of their clients got bent over a barrel this week?
The fine print is full of escape clauses. These things aren’t insured
and there’s no recourse if the exchange or the product fails.
Euro and Swaps
We’re facing a perfect storm loss/loss scenario from hedging activity.
It’s the same AIG shell game, just played on a different street corner that
no one is watching. It took people nearly a year to catchup and understand
what subprime mortgage blow ups were doing. Last week gave us a new bomb
ripple in the subbasement of international banks.
Eurodollars are deposits denominated in U.S. dollars at banks outside
the United States, and thus are not under the jurisdiction of the Federal
Reserve. Consequently, such deposits are subject to much less regulation
than similar deposits within the U.S., allowing for higher margins.
The Eurodollar futures contract refers to the financial futures contract
based upon these deposits, traded at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME)
in Chicago. Eurodollar futures are a way for companies and banks to lock
in an interest rate today, for money it intends to borrow or lend in the
future. Each CME Eurodollar futures
contract has a notional or “face value” of $1,000,000, though the leverage
used in futures allows one contract to be traded with a margin of about
one thousand dollars. Trading in Eurodollar futures is extensive,
and the market for them tends to be very liquid. The prices of Eurodollars
are quite responsive to FED Policy, inflation, and economic indicators.
CME Eurodollar futures prices are determined by the market’s forecast
of the 3-month USD LIBOR interest rate expected to prevail on the settlement
date. The settlement price of a contract is defined to be 100.00 minus the
official British Bankers Association fixing of 3-month LIBOR on the contract
settlement date. For example, if 3-month LIBOR sets at 5.00% on the contract
settlement date, the contract settles at a price of 95.00. (source)
On Thursday
LIBOR hit 0.373% the highest since last August. On Friday it
hit 0.428% while the Euro crashed to a 14-month low against the dollar.
The gigantic
interest rate swap market is based on LIBOR. When the spread jumps 14% overnight someone is
taking a massive hit. This concept is to today’s market what
subprime was to the crash in 2008. Let’s explore why derivatives are so
important.
As the unregulated derivatives market grew the money that was in equities
left for greener pastures. Basically the U.S. stock market is like the
post-apocalyptic landscape in the movie Terminator. It’s wounded,
illiquid, and controlled by Skynet’s hunter-killer HFT drones who prowl for
resistance money. On Thursday the computers drove the market into a no-bid
situation that blew out tons of retail money. In the vacuum of the program
trading nuclear blast Skynet computers, doing one million orders per second,
jumped into the void making billions of dollars at our expense.
The explanation is that a market that trends significantly higher on
the back of little real investment activity, but lots of algorithmic trading,
has more trailing automatic stop losses than a low volume market can possibly
handle if the cascade is triggered. Ponzi schemes tend to build over long
periods of time, and evaporate overnight.
dryfly:
Tagsac wrote:
Anybody who watched these algorithms ratchet the market higher day after
day on no volume knew this was coming (just not precisely when).
This was an expected outcome. No explanation is needed.
What was unexpected was who were the last ones out the door.
Turbo:
The interbank financing market was on the verge of seizing up again Thursday.
The financial system only functions and the market only goes up on the back
of ever increasing amounts of free central bank money - as soon as the liquidity
gusher is even reduced the market has a Wile E Coyote moment.
aleister perdurabo:
Regulators have got to start to recognize that traders are not investors
and vice versa and treat them differently. Different regulations. Different
tax structure. Different oversight. Individual investors and the funds that
just invest in stocks and bonds are not going to crash the market. Big traders
who are always leveraging up and maximizing the number of trades/hacks they
make will always put the system at risk. We need to recognize that they
do not serve much of a purpose other than to add substantial risk to the
global economy. That their stated value-add of liquidity does not compensate
the US and World Economy nearly enough for the risk of collapse they introduce
into the system.
mp:
Anyone who has their money in this con game deserves to have it taken
from them.
And I agree wholeheartedly with Rob Dawg. It isn't the SEC's job to agree;
their goddamned job is to DECREE.
I watched what happened last week and can tell you, if they'd fleeced me,
you'd be reading about my response in the goddamned newspaper.
This is the craziest s*(t I have ever seen. What's even crazier is that
everyone seems to be rolling over and saying 'please, do it again.'
India has adopted a very interesting system. The have a small transaction
tax on all exchange traded stocks - but have waived all capital gains taxes
on stocks that were traded on an exchange. They collect as much via the
transactional tax as they would if people paid capital gains with much less
bother - because they now only have to police the brokers who have a hard
time cheating since the stock exchange trades are all recorded. The individual
is better off because they don't have to maintain reams of paper for tax
purposes and long term investors are rewarded at the expense of short term
traders.
Interesting Times:
If I were TPTB, I would be quite nervous.
1) The US has maxed out their bailouts.
2) The EMU has maxed out their bailouts.
3) The Dow can't break 11,000
4) The Euro is flat to negative
5) No real GDP will be generated from this
6) Austerity measures are spreading
Excerpted with permission from Mark Cuban's "Blog Maverick" weblog:
My last two posts were designed to stimulate discussion. But let's talk about
the real problem that regulators, public companies, investor/shareholders and
traders face. The problem is that Wall Street doesn’t know what business it
is in. Regulators don’t know what the business of Wall Street is. Investor/shareholders
don’t know what business Wall Street is in.
The only people who know what business Wall Street is in are the traders.
They know what business Wall Street is in better than everyone else. To traders,
whether day traders or high frequency or somewhere in between, Wall Street has
nothing to do with creating capital for businesses, its original goal. Wall
Street is a platform. It’s a platform to be exploited by every technological
and intellectual means possible.
The best analogy for traders? They are hackers.
Just as hackers search for and exploit operating
system and application shortcomings, traders do the same thing. A hacker wants
to jump in front of your shopping cart and grab your credit card and then sell
it. A high frequency trader wants to jump in front of your trade and then sell
that stock to you. A hacker will tell you that they are serving a purpose by
identifying the weak links in your system. A trader will tell you they deserve
the pennies they are making on the trade because they provide liquidity to the
market.
I recognize that one is illegal, the other is not. That isn’t the important
issue.
The important issue is recognizing that Wall Street is no longer what it
was designed to be. Wall Street was designed to be a market to which companies
provide securities (stocks/bonds), from which they received capital that would
help them start/grow/sell businesses. Investors made their money by recognizing
value where others did not, or by simply committing to a company and growing
with it as a shareholder, receiving dividends or appreciation in their holdings.
What percentage of the market is driven by investors these days ?
...individual stocks become pawns in a much bigger
game than I feel increasingly less comfortable playing. It is a game fraught
with ever increasing risk.
The PIMCO guys (who I think are the smartest guys on the Street), talk about
a new normal as it applies to today’s state of the world economy. I think just
as important is the new normal as it applies to Wall Street.
Wall Street is now a huge mathematical game of chess
where individual companies are just pawns. This is money in the
bank for the big players like Goldman (GS),
Morgan (MS),
etc. Why ? Because the game of chess is far too complicated for 99% of the institutions
out there investing money.
So to keep up, they turn to Goldman, Morgan and the like to invent products
for them. “You don’t know how to play the housing boom, let us show you.” “You
think the housing boom is about to crash, let us show you how to play that.”
“You think that PIIGS are in trouble because they can’t print money to pay debt
holders, let us create a product to allow you to play that game.” The big houses
have the best hackers in the business and they put together the games and sell
them to the many, many institutions managing Billions and Billions of dollars.
They are the ultimate Hackers selling their attacks to the highest bidder, regardless
of which side they are on. That is a new normal.
Again, I’m not passing judgement one [way] or the other. I’m just recognizing
what is going on in the financial world today.
It’s rare for companies to go public these days. Just as rare for secondary
offerings. The only thing that keeps me in the market is that most of the stocks
(not all) pay dividends or some other sort of cash payout. For the first time
in my life, I bought outside the United States. I bought Australia in a big
way because it is becoming increasingly hard to find new domestic investments
that are not influenced by the “hackers” and the games being played on a macro
level. It’s hard to believe, but evaluating countries as an investment
is now easier than evaluating companies . Even with all the unrest
in Europe. Or maybe because of it.
So back to the original question. What business is Wall Street in ?
Its primary business is no longer creating capital for business. Creating
capital for business has to be less than 1pct of the volume on Wall Street in
any given period. (I would be curious if anyone out there knows what percentage
of transactions actually return money to a company for any reason). It wouldn’t
shock me that even in this environment that more money flows from companies
to the market in the form of buybacks (which
I think are always a mistake), then flows into companies in the form of
equity.
My 2 cents is that it is important for this country to push Wall
Street back to the business of creating capital for business. Whether it's through
a use of taxes on trades, or changing the capital gains tax structure so that
there is no capital gains tax on any shares of stock (private or public company)
held for 5 years or more, and no tax on dividends paid to shareholders who have
held stock in the company for more than 5 years. However we need to
do it, we need to get the smart money on Wall Street back to thinking about
ways to use their capital to help start and grow companies. That is what will
create jobs. That is where we will find the next big thing that will accelerate
the world economy. It won’t come from traders trying to hack the financial system
for a few pennies per trade.
And solutions won’t come from bureaucrats trying to prevent the traders
from hacking the system. The only certainty when bureaucrats step in is that
the law of unintended consequences will smack us all in the head and the trader/hackers
will find new ways to exploit the system that makes them big money and even
more money for the big institutions that develop products for the other institutions
that are desperate to play the game.
Regulators have got to start to recognize that traders are not investors
and vice versa and treat them differently. Different regulations. Different
tax structure. Different oversight. Individual investors and the funds that
just invest in stocks and bonds are not going to crash the market. Big traders
who are always leveraging up and maximizing the number of trades/hacks they
make will always put the system at risk. We need to recognize that they do not
serve much of a purpose other than to add substantial risk to the global economy.
That their stated value-add of liquidity does not compensate the US and World
Economy nearly enough for the risk of collapse they introduce into the system.
Wall Street as a whole needs to be in the business of creating capital
for companies and selling shares to investors who believe they are shareholders.
The Government needs to create incentives for this business and extract compensation
from the traders/hackers for the systemic failure level of risk they introduce.
There will be another crash, because there are too many players looking
for the trillion dollar score. They can’t all win, yet how many do you think
wouldn’t risk everything, even what is not theirs, for that remote chance to
score big? Put another way, there is zero moral hazard attached to any trade.
So why wouldn’t traders take the biggest risk possible ?
Update...
One more consideration. If there are traders of any kind that
are unregulated or unmonitored, and trade for their own account, how do we know
how big they are and how much of a threat they pose to the system, individually
and in aggregate? For any High Frequency or big leverage derivative folks out
there--is it possible there could be firms that have billions at risk with questionable
ability to make a margin call or fulfill their side of the trade if things went
against them? Could there be hidden
AIGs that few people know about or a bunch of AIG like situations, which
in aggregate fail and put the system at risk? I have no idea. Just asking the
question.
For a few exciting minutes on Thursday, the Dow-Jones Industrial Average
was down a thousand points, with some major stocks momentarily falling to a
penny a share. The basic story appears to be as follows. Initial strong selling
in some stocks such as Procter & Gamble led the New York Stock Exchange to halt
trading temporarily in a few stocks until specialists could sort out what was
going on. But trading in those stocks continued on other exchanges, where as
a result of their thinner books, orders to sell at any price went far down the
list of existing buy bids. These lower prices triggered further automatic selling
that sent some stocks all the way through the list of outstanding bids until
encountering basement bids at one cent a share.
One popular meme is to attribute these fireworks to the existence of multiple
trading venues that didn't all get shut down simultaneously (e.g.,
WSJ or
NYT).
But I think we should also be taking a closer look at the folks who were sending
the sell orders rather than just blaming the exchanges for carrying out the
instructions they received.
Let me frame my discussion of Thursday's drama in terms of two very different
views of what your strategy might be for investing in stocks. One view was articulated
by John Maynard Keynes on page 156 of his General Theory:
professional investment may be likened to those newspaper competitions
in which the competitors have to pick out the six prettiest faces from a
hundred photographs, the prize being awarded to the competitor whose choice
most nearly corresponds to the average preferences of the competitors as
a whole;
so that each competitor has to pick,
not those faces which he himself
finds prettiest, but those which he thinks likeliest to catch the fancy
of the other competitors, all of whom are looking at the problem from the
same point of view. It is not a case of choosing those which, to the best
of one's judgement, are really the prettiest, nor even those which average
opinion genuinely thinks the prettiest.
We have reached the third degree
where we devote our intelligences to anticipating what average opinion expects
the average opinion to be. And there are some, I believe, who practise the
fourth, fifth and higher degrees.
Is there an alternative interpretation of what gives a stock value, apart
from what others think that others think it might be worth? Most assuredly there
is, and the easiest way to understand that value is to contemplate buying a
stock with the intention of never selling it, simply passing it on to your heirs,
and from them to their heirs. Is the asset, if used in this way, of any benefit
to you? Sure is, because even if you never sell the stock, you and your heirs
can expect to receive a dividend payment from the company four times a year
as long as the company stays in business. Those dividend payments will grow
if the company's earnings grow over time. Even for a stagnant company that sells
exactly the same number of units each year, in an inflationary world the dollar
prices of those goods (and therefore the number of dollars you receive in dividend
payments) should grow over time.
The average dividend yield on
stocks in the S&P500
at the moment is about 1.8%. The yield on a 30-year Treasury Inflation Protected
Security is also about 1.8%. On one dimension, with equal yields stocks might
seem more attractive than TIPS, since nominal dividends will grow faster than
inflation. On the other hand, stocks are much riskier, because nobody knows
for sure exactly how big those future dividend payments are going to be.
Historically, investors have demanded as risk compensation a significantly
higher average real return from stocks relative to bonds than is reflected in
the current equality of dividend and TIPS yields; the average dividend yield
on stocks over the last 30 years was 2.8%. That means that if we return to average
historical evaluations, stock prices would fall. I made this point from some
related calculations
last
December. There I suggested that when Professor Robert Shiller's long-term
price-earnings ratio was above 20, it was time for caution. That ratio exceeded
22 at the April peak, but with last week's correction is now just above 20.
Here's an update of the graph I discussed in December.
Blue line: Ratio of real value (in 2010 dollars) of S&P composite index
to the arithmetic average value of real earnings over the previous decade,
January 1880 to May 2010. Red line: historical average (16). Data source:
Robert Shiller.
Whatever your stand on how to evaluate the tradeoff between risk and return,
if you take the above perspective that the value of a stock ultimately derives
from the stream of dividend payments that it delivers to its owner, then when
the stock price goes down, it becomes a more attractive asset for you to buy,
whereas when the stock price goes up, it is something you should consider selling.
But, you might ask, isn't is possible that other people know more about those
future dividend prospects than I do, so if they're selling, maybe I should sell
too? It's not just possible that others know more than I do, it's a certainty.
But, let's suppose that one minute ago I was persuaded that ahead of us was
normal dividend growth, and the next minute something caused me to change my
mind and believe that dividends were about to go through a meat grinder like
we experienced during the Great Depression of the 1930s. As I showed in illustrative
calculations in
March
of 2009, that Armageddon-level revelation would reduce the rational price
I'd be willing to pay for most stocks, in the sense that I've been sketching
here, by about 25%. The news that actually arrives on a given day would of course
have a vastly more modest effect on how your calculation should come out. If
overall stock prices fall 10% in the space of a few minutes, you can almost
be certain that it's not because anybody's rationally-calculated fundamental
valuations have declined by that amount.
Alternatively, you might argue, if stocks were 10% (or more) overvalued on
Wednesday, as indeed I've just suggested that they may well have been, then
couldn't a dive of the magnitude we saw in the intraday excitement on Thursday
be perfectly rational? Maybe so. But the Wednesday close and the Thursday intraday
low price can't both be rational-- if one was right, then the other has to be
wrong. More importantly, the time to make up your mind about that question is
in the quiet of some Sunday afternoon, not when the crowd around you is suddenly
panicking on a particular Thursday.
Let's take a look at one of the amusing examples of trading on Thursday.
Exelon is a perfectly sound utility. The stock started and ended the day at
about $42, yet at one point allegedly changed hands for a penny a share. If
you are the owner of 100 shares of this stock on Wednesday May 12, the company
will send you a dividend check for $55. They'll send you another $55 (and likely
eventually even more) every 3 months thereafter, as long as you own the stock.
What rational person would possibly prefer to have $1 on Thursday May 6 in preference
to owning 100 shares of the stock, say, for at least another week?
No sane person ever would. I wonder how many of the sell orders came not
from actual humans, but instead from instructions programmed to execute automatically
by computers. Anybody following such a strategy is obviously not a subscriber
to my theory of fundamental value, but instead seems to be playing Keynes' beauty
contest game, having persuaded themselves, based on the historical correlations,
that when the crowd starts to sell, if you can instruct your computer to sell
at the "market price" faster than a human can even think, you'll come out ahead.
Economists and financial engineers seem to approach stock markets differently.
The financial engineers often see the game as figuring out whatever the historical
predictability has been and trying to get ahead of it. Economists tend to ask
what the equilibrium in the market would look like if everybody played the game
the way the financial engineers do. The answer to that second question is, if
momentum-chasing algorithms come to rule the financial world, those who try
to follow them will be the biggest losers.
Another notion that's popular with many financial gurus these days is the
claim that you can eliminate certain risks to your portfolio with the right
strategy of automatic trading and stop-loss sell orders. Again that claim invites
an economic question-- if you are getting an insurance policy, who is selling
it to you? I believe the implicit answer is, you are counting on the market-maker
to insure you by taking the other side of your escape transactions. But the
curious thing about such an insurance policy is that the market-maker gets to
decide what premium to charge you after you ask to collect on the policy.
You just might find that the state of the world when you and your buddies all
most desperately want to cash in on your insurance is exactly the time when
the premium proves to be ruinously expensive.
Or if I haven't persuaded you with these arguments, let me try a more modest
suggestion-- those of you whose computer programs sent an order to sell Exelon
even if you only get a penny a share might want to consider tweaking the code
just a bit.
And my advice for sane humans trying to deal with such a crazy market is
this: as a first step, ignore all the other beauty-contest judges, and ask yourself
whether the flow of future dividends you expect
to receive by itself would be adequate compensation to you for your investment,
given the risk associated with not knowing exactly what those dividends are
going to be.
If it is, then allow yourself to relax as the computer programs written by
the other contest judges try to devour each other.
If it's not, then you're in the wrong place at the wrong time.
The tendency of the stock market to extract
and control the disposition of most of the value created by the real economy
is distressing. But I see no way to tame the beast.
Professor Hamilton gives me hope that the beast will self-distruct. I
want to believe that. But that outcome is too easy. Thursday was an aberation.
In addition, the stock market officials talk about erasing extreme trades.
Apparently, no one is going to loose or gain enough to spoil play. The officials
are going to do all they can to make sure that their baby does not self-destruct.
Using a high-yeild mutual fund as an income source is one way to follow
Prof. Hamilton's logic.
Bob_in_MA
Two points:
First, the idea that stocks are any sort of hedge in an inflationary
environment is a little difficult to jive with the experience during
our most prominent inflationary bout from 1968-1982.
If TIPs were available in 1968, they would have been a much better buy.
Second, the flow of dividends expected by holders of DJIA components
like Citi, GM and GE in 2006, and their assessments of risks, were probably
a little off the mark.
I think you are misinterpreting what's happening. The market-glitch story
may explain the 1,000 point intra-day fall, but not what happened over the
last ten days.
Posted by: at May 9, 2010 06:14 PM
Professor Hamilton,
What would happen if we limit the role of stock exchanges to just sell
IPOs? If that was the case, then only long-term investors would be attracted
to the market (those that trully value stocks for their fundamental value).
Investors could always buy/sell stocks on a secondary market (but not
in exchanges) in the same manner I buy my used car or sell my bike in craiglist.
The only function of the markets is to channel funds to productive investments.
What is the economic contribution of stock price volatility (rational or
irrational)?
This is highly reminiscent of the 1987 crash driven by a flawed market structure
based on automated trading and bad theories.
The entire stock market rally which we have seen this year off the February
lows resembles a low volume Ponzi scheme, and formed a huge air pocket under
prices.
This US equity rally was driven by technically oriented buying from the Banks
and the hedge funds. There was and still is a lack of legitimate institutional
buying at these price levels. This was machine driven speculation enabled by
the lack of reform in a system riddled with corruption, from the bottom to the
top.
This is yet another indication that the US regulatory and market oversight organizations,
especially the SEC and CFTC, continue to be disconnected from and remarkably
ineffective in their responsibilities in guarding the public against gross market
abuse, price manipulation, and insiders playing games with cheap money supplied
by the NY Fed.
And as you might expect, the anchors on financial television are trying to excuse
and blame the sell off on a 'fat finger' order that caused Procter and Gamble
to drop 20 points in 45 seconds. Or a typist inputting an order to sell 16 million
e-mini SP futures, and typing "B" instead of "M." Oops. Crashed the free world.
"Ordinarily, the financial risk in a market, and hence the risk to the economy
at large, is limited because the assets traded are finite. There are only
so many houses, mortgages, shares of stock, bushels of corn, [bars of silver],
or barrels of oil in which to invest.
But a synthetic instrument has no real assets. It is simply a bet on the
performance of the assets it references. That means the number of synthetic
instruments is limitless, and so is the risk they present to the economy...
Increasingly, synthetics became bets made by
people who had no interest in the referenced assets.Synthetics became the chips in a giant casino,
one that created no economic growth even when it thrived, and then helped
throttle the economy when the casino collapsed."
US Congressman Carl Levin
Even if any of this was true, it was just the spark that caused the market to
plummet because of its highly unstable and artificial technical underpinnings.
There is no longer any legitimate price discovery. The US financial system is
a casino, dominated by a few big Banks and hedge funds, the gangs of New
York.
Fifty years from now people will recognize that the threat this generation of
Americans needed to take seriously, but failed, were banksters. What a depraved
indifference to common people was recently demonstrated by GS during hearings."
"German Chancellor Angela Merkel accused the financial industry of playing
dirty. 'First the banks failed, forcing states to carry out rescue operations.
They plunged the global economy over the precipice and we had to launch
recovery packages, which increased our debts, and now they are speculating
against these debts. That is very treacherous,' she said. 'Governments must
regain supremacy. It is a fight against the markets and I am determined
to win this fight.'"
The story of this crisis is the people versus the banks. The largest mistake
that Europe made was in bailing out the banks, and not simply nationalizing
them. But that would not have resolved the problem of the gangs of the New York
and London, and their partners in the hedge funds and the ratings agencies.
The same man who wrote, "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts
absolutely" also wrote:
"The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be
fought sooner or later is the People versus the Banks."
Lord Acton
I do not wish to sound pessimistic, but it will
be a surprise if the US under the Obama Administration does anything meaningful
and significant to curb the abuses of the large Wall Street firms.
While the corruption in the campaign financial process and the revolving door
between government and the Street remains open the progress to reform will remain
a diversion at best.
NY Post Feds Probing JPMorgan trades in Silver Pit By MICHAEL GRAY
May 9, 2010
Federal agents have launched parallel criminal and civil probes of JPMorgan
Chase and its trading activity in the precious metals market, The Post has
learned.
The probes are centering on whether or not JPMorgan, a top derivatives holder
in precious metals, acted improperly to depress the price of silver, sources
said.
The Commodities Futures Trade Commission is looking into civil charges,
and the Department of Justice's Antitrust Division is handling the criminal
probe, according to sources, who did not wish to be identified due to the
sensitive nature of the information.
The probes are far-ranging, with federal officials looking into JPMorgan's
precious metals trades on the London Bullion Market Association's (LBMA)
exchange, which is a physical delivery market, and the New York Mercantile
Exchange (Nymex) for future paper derivative trades.
JPMorgan increased its silver derivative holdings by $6.76 billion, or about
220 million ounces, during the last three months of 2009, according to the
Office of Comptroller of the Currency.
Regulators are pulling trading tickets on JPMorgan's precious metals moves
on all the exchanges as part of the probe, sources tell The Post.
JPMorgan has not been charged with any wrongdoing.
The DOJ and CFTC each declined to comment, as did JPMorgan.
The investigations stem from a story in The Post, which reported on a whistleblower
questioning JPMorgan's involvement in suppressing the price of silver by
"shorting" the precious metal around the release of news announcements that
should have sent the price upwards.
It is alleged that in shorting silver, JPMorgan sells large blocks of silver
option contracts or physical metal -- actions that would bring down the
price of the metal -- closely following news that would otherwise move the
metals higher.
Last week, The Post got a telling e-mail the Justice Dept. sent to a concerned
investor. "Thank you for your e-mail regarding allegations that JPMorgan
Chase, and perhaps other traders, are manipulating the silver futures market,"
the e-mail read.
Telling, indeed, as the concerned investor, in an e-mail to Justice's Anti-trust
division, never mentioned any companies or traders.
"if the working-class were to unite, one of the two political parties would
be forced to accommodate and represent a voting bloc of such significant size, and
our democracy might just find some balance." Financial oligarchy first won ideological
victory against unions (Reagan) and then destroyed them by divide and conquer strategy.
After that the nation wealth was plundered by playing games with the fiat currency
system and fractional reserve banking... And government is by-and-large is
government of and by the ruling class. People like both Roosevelts are an exception
to the rule.
Rothkopt: “A boot on the throat is no way to do business.” This quote has
a deeper level to it which is indicative both of the corpocracy’s strategy of
the last thirty years and why the’re sweating under their collars just now.
The corporate vehicles of individuals of great wealth, and their related propaganda
institutes and captive mass media organs have been very successful in promoting
the (ideological but never so stated) view that a function of government is
‘to do business.’
That governments should, promote business, talk to business, facilitate business,
and operate like business; in its strong form, this ideology would suppose that
this is the ONLY legitimate function of government, and where it cannot or will
not ‘do business’ it should not exist at all.
This view has completely saturated the major
media to the point that no viewpoint not compatible with it is given any airing
except for a few distorted seconds before the canned derision is cued.
When the Nude Democrats and the Nude Labor in the US and the UK, and even the
SPD in DEU all capitulated grovelingly to spout this cant in the 1990s and since,
any political opposition to it vanished from the discourse. If political parties
wouldn’t ‘do business,’ they were at best obstructionist, and at worst anti-Western.
Yes, yes: it took the casuistry of neo-liberalism to put the ‘do business’
ethos into a form saleable to the mass bases of those political parties, but
the effect was the same. And so certainly over the last twenty years, folks
part of the Top Wealth Club to which guys like Immelt belong and Rothkopt toady
became very confident in, very adapted to a discourse where only those who ‘did
business’ counted, indeed only they were allowed to speak.
In the (formerly, nominally) liberal democracies the most of us reside in
though, we’ve been indoctrinated otherwise. Ours is the impression that the
function of government is to promote stability and justice. Those of us on the
left have the view that a further function is to promote social justice—equality,
more or less—and the suitability and sustainability of our physical environments.
None of these things have anything much to do with ‘doing business.’ Indeed,
doing business has a long, _proven_ record of being INIMICAL to all of those
functions most of us actually believe government should perform . . . if it
is government for us, the populace; not government for them, the wealthy few
and government _of_ us the populace by the wealthy few.
The disconnect, indeed the antipathy, between these two perspectives has
been badly papered over through the last twenty years. Partly because the media
simply, and blatantaly sold out the populace and mouthed the cant of the wealthy,
putting a dollar’s ass kissing spin on anything and everything so that ‘doing
business’ seemed right, natural, and above all profitable for the mass of the
populace when anything but has in fact been true.
Asset price speculation, pumped out and up by
the wealthy did in fact deliver the opportunity for gain to much of the middle
class in these same liberal democracties although the working classes were largely
left out and progressively impoverished by the suppression of wage increases
and the inflation of prices generally. But hey, the middle class
has never been loathe to throw the lower class under the bus on the road to
prosperity, so for twenty years the wealthy few have been able to sell the comfortable
middle on the notion that government should ‘do business.’
Now, those asset price gains have proved to be illusory, but the debt levels
that went with them have _not_ been expunged for the no longer comfortable middle.
And that is a real problem for the Wealthy Few. Not because they are no longer
comfortable and wealthy themselves but because the Big Lie that government should
do business is right there in black and white billing statements before the
formerly comfortable middle. And the votes are shifting on what government should
do. Shifting where, nobody is any too clear, but out from under the cant of
‘doing business.’
And it is very clear that Big Wealth and their corporate vehicles don’t have
a New Selling Campaign thought up yet, so they just keep repeating the old shibboleths
though the same gaseous media blowholes about how the government has to ‘do
business’ because that is good ‘for the economy.’ Economy of whom, one might
ask, and that is exactly the question that Big Money is sweating some are starting
to ask themselves. Many, not just clownish tea potters, and demanding that government
STOP DOING BUSINESS AND START DOING GOVERNING AND _JUSTICE_. And that is very
much not according the the script of Great Wealth.
The government has the power to crush the corpocracy and Great Wealth, but
not the will nor the willing at the top. If Great Wealth and its lickspittles
lose their lock on the discourse, though, all bets are off on the replacements,
pending, of those now in power. That is what is so dangerous—for them, not us—about
folks talking about something other than ‘doing business,’ about folks talking
about doing governing. Because governing for the
populace and doing business for the wealthy are fundamentally opposed options
in any _functioning_ liberal democracy. So those of Great Wealth
want at all costs to continue the dysfunctional, one-party, pro-corporate political
system we have now and this ideological flatulance about ‘doing business for
the good of the economy.’
—So don’t let them: Speak your mind, vote your conscience, don’t shake the
hand of the corporate profiteer or financial speculator. Spit in it if you can
get close enough to do so.
Dan Duncan:
This post is myopic and it’s a demonstration of an Out-Group Homogeneity
Bias.
With exceptions, the anger of the Left and of the Right are expressed
through “Progressives” and “Tea-Partiers”, respectively.
Take Yves’ paragraph that reads:
“But let’s return to the “populism” attack, which sticks in my craw.
It’s a not-very-subtle way of denying the legitimacy of the populace’s
anger. The taxpayers have just been the victims of the greatest looting
of the public purse, and the perps have the nerve to lecture them about
their anger?”
Simply substitute “populism” with “tea party” and you have the exact
same phenomenon.
Just as the Left (and Progressives) marginalized the Tea-Party anger
(which, overlaps Progressive anger in so many ways), the Right–and Tea-Partiers–are
marginalizing the Progressives.
In the end, all of us in the middle, lose as a result.
But, Yves is playing the role of the hypocrite by claiming that this
type of marginalization (against her group)…”well that’s just is not fair.”
Yet, Yves has absolutely no problem when the Tea-Partiers are mischaracterized.
The reason for this is Yves’ susceptibility to the Out-Group Homogeneity
Bias, referenced earlier.
Accordingly, her “in-group” (ie Progressives) is varied and diverse,
thus the imposition of simplistic stereotypes is unfair. But the out-group
(Tea-Partiers)…well they are seen as homogeneous, and thus any simplistic
characterization is warranted.
It’s a worldview expressed by teenagers as
they experience cliques for the first time. And it’s reinforced by a susceptibility
to Confirmations Biases.
Until the Progressives and Tea-Partiers work
together to end the cronyism between our government and our Ultra-rich Financial
Class, each respective movement will be systematically marginalized.
If you are a Progressive and you smile with satisfaction when Tea-Partiers
are characterized as “racists”, you’re only setting your own movement back.
And if you are a Tea-Partier and you smile with satisfaction when Progressives
are characterized as “Hugo Chavez loving miscreants”…you’re also hurting
your own cause.
There will be ample time for Progressives and Tea-Partiers to fight over
policy in the future, but they will never reach that point until BOTH the
government and the financial class are put in their place.
DownSouth:
Dan Duncan,
I disagree with your framing of the issue.
You put Yves on the left, yourself in the middle, and the Tea Partiers
on the right.
I, on the other hand, put Yves in the middle, you on the far right, and
the Tea Party Express (as distinct from the Tea Party Patriots) on the extreme
far right. And in America there is no left.
The Tea Party Express is an astroturf organization—-a mouthpiece for
the rich and powerful, and not a very transparent one at that.
To lump Yves in with some Marxist ideologue like Hugo Chavez is as laughable
as you characterizing yourself as being a member of “us in the middle.”
Siggy:
What is meant by the appellations left and right, liberal and conservative?
About fifty years ago I stopped trying to apply those little beauties. My
conclusion then and now is that neither is beneficial and contributory to
society. Each operates to achieve economic advantage to the detriment of
all others.
It is not at all surprising that the fraudsters
are fighting back with their propaganda. This blog, and others like it,
are a direct threat to that which is the rice bowl of the fraudsters.
Why fraudsters as opposed to banksters? Are those who hold themselves
forth as bankers not engaged in representing that a CDO can have a AAA rating?
Is that not a fraud on its face? Please demonstrate how the concentration
of the probability for default can lead to the mitigation of risk.
Similarly, the call for transparency falls short of what is required.
Without the enforcement of contracts, transparency is irrelevant. Now just
where and when did we reject the enforcement of contracts unnecessary?
It begins with the fraudsters inducing the
legislature to repeal or ban regulations. It begins with
some cockamamie idealogue who holds a position of considerable economic
regulatory power positing that markets are efficient and that the prosecution
of financial fraud is unnecessary because the market in its infinte efficiency
will correct and thereby prevent fraud.
I believe that we can ban the CDO outright. Will such action cause some
pain? Considerably more than a little, in fact a mild depression is quite
probable. Isn’t a depression something that we should avoid? Not if you
want to have a sustainable economy because we will have to create positive
incentives that reward honesty and fair dealing. Implicit in that is the
necessity of a currency that maintains its purchsing power over generations
as opposed to devalued fiat dollar that we now employ.
As things are now, it appears to me that whether right or left, liberal
or conservative or any other name, no one is willing to bear the cost of
what has to occur if we are to achieve a sustainable economy. So long as
that fact holds, we are a tower of Babel talking past each other. Our media
are filled with sound and fury that accomplishing nothing. (Sorry Will).
attempter:
Instead we have had a greater and greater centralization of political
and economic power and an increasing disempowered citizen. Is there a political
framework that would help to get us out of this dynamic?
In the face of both centralized kleptocratic tyranny and the unsustainable
debt zombie AKA the global economy, which is really just a Tower of Babel;
in the face of the structure comprising these two elements, the only framework
that can survive beyond the collapse and perhaps offer some preparation,
protection, and spiritual comfort in the meantime is relocalization. Politically,
socially, culturally, economically. As much as possible.
It won’t be easy for most to accept that
big corporations, centralized government, and consumerism have long been
socially and politically malevolent and are now economically unsustainable,
that in the short run we can expect only assaults from the top down, and
in the long run there’s no future there at all, but this is going to happen
anyway, one way or another.
It would be much better for us if as much as possible we now detached
from the kleptocracy, by becoming as self-reliant and self-sustaining as
possible, as individuals and as communities. So we should focus our positive
economic and political efforts at that level.
But from the top down we can expect nothing but incompetence and disaster
at best, and fascism at worst, and probably some combination of the two,
so any political focus there should be negative, for example fighting further
assaults on civil liberties.
Jim says: (an interesting take on "either market or state" fallacy)
Wunsacon
Certainly a more and more centralized state has disempowered its citizens
as much as an unregulated market.
Don’t both parts of the equation–market and state–have to be reformed.
Unfortunately our political dialogue is obsessed with the supposed confrontation
between market and state which only obscures the need for dramatic reform
in both realms.
To me, populism, if real, is a crisis in political representation and
must be dealt with on an economic, political and cultural level.
Culturally the market has reduced citizens to consumers and the state
often reduces citizen to state-dependent personalities.
The result, from both the present configuration of the market and the
state, is a citizenry unable to function without the administration and
guidance of mangerial agencies in both the public and private sectors.
Because of a passive citizenry this professional managerial class becomes
more and more unaccountable and more and more corrupt.
Doesn’t this cycle have to be broken somehow?
ray l love:
I think Dan has it right.
Somewhere along the way Americans have become confused about who is on
whose side and I doubt that it is a coincidence
that the working-class in this country has remained divided.
Racism seems to be a key dividing factor although there are some
aspects of this issue that don’t quite make sense. Blacks for example voted
almost exclusively along racial lines in this past presidential election
yet Whites are once again the race being accused of being prejudicial. Think
of what the outcry might have been had 95% of Whites voted for McCain in
this past election and that should give some basis for understanding which
race has made some progress regarding racial bias and which race has not,
and yet it is almost always ’some’ Whites who are labeled as ‘racists’.
And of course it is nearly always the so-called ‘progressives’ doing the
name-calling.
I grew-up in East-LA and learned at a very
young age that there were certain Hispanic neighborhoods that were too dangerous
to walk through for a White kid. As I got a little older
and started to drive I also learned that there were certain neighborhoods
that were almost exclusively inhabited by blacks and these were dangerous
places just to drive through, and ‘forget about’ getting out of your car.
As a matter of fact I learned these lessons the ‘hard way’ as did any adventurous
white kid who lived in one of the poor parts of Southern California.
What seems too often overlooked is that poor Whites rarely have their
own ‘turf’. The areas where I lived in LA, and where I live now in Texas,
have a great many poor, working-class Whites, but they live in neighborhoods
that are racially mixed and comparatively, as compared to the Black and
Hispanic enclaves aforementioned, these areas are much less prone to racially
motivated clashes between groups, or between individuals.
What the so-called ‘progressives’ are doing when they accuse the ‘tea-party’
folks of being racially motivated is what demagogues always do, they generalize,
stereotype, distort by exaggerating and by excluding etc., and everyone
sees this all around us so I won’t elaborate.
What is worth saying though is that there is an easy way to distinguish
the actual progressive thinkers from the pretenders: genuine progressives,
those who care deeply about ‘progress’, they
understand that a divided working-class is what allows the balance of power
to remain in the grasp of the investment-class, and so they most certainly
do not do or say anything that exacerbates the racial divide in this country.
And especially not via low-integrity tactics such as generalizations,
stereotyping etc., based on presumption. And of course there is no evidence
that the Tea-Party folks are racially motivated yet that assumption has
permeated our national discourse. So, ‘who benefits’
is the question that must be asked when the Democrats and the Republicans
play their deceitful games? And there is usually a hint of ‘blind ambition’
involved regarding the messenger.
It is critical to understand also that if
the working-class were to unite, one of the two political parties would
be forced to accommodate and represent a voting bloc of such significant
size, and our democracy might just find some balance. And
as Dan suggested above, then the process of settling differences could continue
but on a level playing field.
"The societal norms (SN) of a Wall Street banker are perhaps NOT the same societal
norms as Jack 'n Jill Mainstreet. In fact, I doubt that they are at all similar."
We continue to have banks operating under the Blankfein rule (Steal all you can.
We’re doing God’s work.)
Calabe Davis:
"Were we rational, it is the state of the world we would prefer to that
characterized by satisfaction of irrational, short-term pleasures."
If we were this rational, we would still be hunter-gatherers.
Reality Bites
Two things,
1) Interesting how the author calls for norms and social pressure to
shape individual behavior. However, the powers of social mores have been
badly degraded over the last few decades. Today, it is no longer possible
to use social shame to dissuade sub-optimal situations like out-of-wedlock
birth, or receiving poor grades. We are told that we have no right to judge,
no right to use the tool of stigma to reduce these negatives.
We can only "help", which means subsidize the
negative, as if that wouldn't make it even more common.
A more relevant example is with the sub-prime mortgage borrowers themselves.
Instead of using social powers to shape future behavior through negative
criticism and open displays of disdain, the reckless flippers and speculators
who took out loans that could never be paid back without the bubble continuing,
are given sympathy along with laws prohibiting foreclosure and fast eviction.
That a person who gets a no money down, interest only loan with teaser rate,
cannot be criticized at all and is called a victim instead, shows that the
author's idea of using social powers to prevent unwanted behavior no longer
can be executed in today's world.
2) We live in a world with imperfect information, so perhaps people are
unable to maximize their utility all the time. However, the author makes
the mistake that "social institutions" namely her and government I bet,
are able to do maximize utility any better. Rarely would government or a
social institution have perfect information on the marketplace (so rare
that I'll say never from now on), but beyond that, they have even less information
on the preferences of the individual! There is no way another person can
know the likes and dislikes of the individual better than the individual.
So what she's after, like most of the obsessive control freaks of her
kind, is a way to make everyone else behave and choose what SHE prefers.
That is to make everyone use her utility curves and generate what she considers
the maximum amount of utility. Of course what she likes and what she thinks
is "good", pleasant, or fun, might not be for someone else. What we have
is the classic, "I know better than you what you want and so I'm taking
away your power to decide so that I can decide for you". Invariably this
leads to a loss of freedom and a very unfree society where people have no
other choices than the ones liked by those in power. For example, there
still are people who insist car pool lanes provide
What makes people like Maxine Udall so nosy, so concerned with what others
should want (and of course what they should want is what she wants)? A better
question is what makes people like Maxine Udall so stupid that they can't
understand that what she thinks what people should want and do may not be
what those people actually want? What makes her so foolish that she thinks
she knows better than the individual, his preferences? Or is it just myopic
hubris, the same kind that makes her so obsessively concerned with controlling
others' choices because she can't stand it that someone else is not living
in the way she thinks is optimal?
Now there may be some who think my criticism of Udall is unfair since
she didn't directly advocate that all individuals be forced to behave in
the way she wants or even society wants. But that's implied, because what
comes next is naturally the argument that only government can correct the
failure of the person to maximize his own utility, or that only government
can see what maximizes utility for society as a whole and so only government
can protect the individual from himself. And to do that means restricting
his ability to make choices, because he might make the "wrong" choice, and
thus hurt himself and society. Therefore we need an institution that will
make sure people make only the correct choice, the socially approved, government
choice. It's for his own good.
"That a person who gets a no money down, interest only loan with teaser
rate, cannot be criticized at all and is called a victim instead, shows
that the author's idea of using social powers to prevent unwanted behavior
no longer can be executed in today's world."
But it is ok for Goldman et al to reap large fees in constructing the
deals the drove the demand for such borrowers, for those irresponsible mortgages
would have been impossible without eager lenders.
Goldman executives repeatedly stated they had a responsibility for serving
their clients who wanted the high risk of those mortgages. So, by the same
token, those borrowers walking away from the loans are serving the very
purposes of the Goldman clients who wanted the high risk mortgages to exist
in order to profit from the certain defaults on the mortgages.
In language of Goldman, those borrowers were serving the market by creating
the risk that others in the market sought, and it is wrong to criticize
those borrowers, or Goldman, because the lenders making the sure to default
mortgages possible were far more sophisticated than the borrowers you criticize
for lacking moral character.
Peter T:
Bruce
Economics has flourished - it dominates universities, councils presidents,
shapes policies of all kinds, even intrudes into areas where the ignorance
of the profession about the real world is on blatant display and publishes
best-sellers. And all this was done by ignoring reality and usingmathematics
a a sleight of hand. What sane economist would abandon riches, fame and
prestige for the mere truth?
{Utility: the state of being useful, profitable, or beneficial; in game
theory or economics the value of that which is sought to be maximized in
any situation involving a choice.}
Do consumers think "utility", or intrinsic value, when they purchase
underpants -- or do they just know they need them. Do consumers think "utility"
when they prefer the purchase of a Ford instead of a Chevy? They know they
want the Ford, even if most any care will fulfill their need.
But presume that there was no real need for a good/service and just a
desire for it. The Ford and Chevy are comparable as regards satisfying the
basic need, but desire manifests itself according to other criteria such
as design, safety considerations, social status displayed, etc. One or several
of these criteria often specify the object of our acquisition amongst the
multiplicity of similar objects available.
In fact, we all confuse what we want with what we need, as we go up Maslow's
Hierarchy of Needs. At the very bottom utility is maximized by procuring
needs that are essential to sustain and maintain life. Higher up the hierarchy,
we humans seem able to conflate the two easily. We "need" a million dollars
to keep up with the Joneses who have also a million dollars. Or we thought
we "needed" a BMW because someone convinced us it was better engineered
than a Buick.
Only by extrapolation can we think that a desire is a need. But we do
so very, very often in our propensity to spend. In fact, this Material World
is rigged with many seductive entrapments convincing us that desire is in
fact a need. Company publicity department thrive on making desires seem
like absolute needs.
So, to "utility" is it possible to add the word "desire" and somehow
remain within the much hallowed (and pristine) "economic models"? Or would
it mess up the models?
"Utility" was a convenient way to express a notion; but if it certainly
denotes "need", it still does not denote "desire" -- and most consumer propensity
(to spend, in a developed economy) is found in the latter (desire) and not
the former (need or usefulness) category.
POST SCRIPTUM
Depending upon level of income, consumers often spend first on needs
and later on desires -- which distinguishes non-discretionary from discretionary
spending.
cm :
I reiterate my thesis of "comfort seeking" as opposed to "utility seeking".
What you call a "want" or a "desire" can also be viewed as a "need" to comfort
the ego. People are driven more than they are usually willing to admit by
(how they think) others view them, which influences who they view themselves.
Yes, which was a foundation stone of Veblen's theory of Conspicuous Consumption
in his book - published over a hundred years ago as "Theory of the Leisure
Class".
From WikiP: {Veblen wanted economists to grasp the effects of
social and cultural change on economic changes. In The Theory of the Leisure
Class, which is probably his best-known work, because of its satiric look
at American society, the instincts of emulation and predation play a major
role.
People, rich and poor alike, attempt to impress others and seek to gain
advantage through what Veblen coined "conspicuous consumption" and the ability
to engage in “conspicuous leisure.” In this work Veblen argued that consumption
is used as a way to gain and signal status. Through "conspicuous consumption"
often came "conspicuous waste," which Veblen detested.}
{If individual virtue tempers our "piggy" desires and conditions our
choices to something that is both individually and socially better, then
the economic rewards of virtue as embodied in and promoted by societal norms
and institutions are far greater than we have ever suspected.}
Good in theory, but not-so-good in practice. Which "societal norms"?
The societal norms (SN) of a Wall Street banker are perhaps NOT the same
societal norms as Jack 'n Jill Mainstreet. In fact, I doubt that they are
at all similar.
Sociology is a bit like Economics in that it has its Macro and Micro
aspects. The Macro Aspects of SNs might be, "Don't kill your fellow man
or just retribution will be had". Or, "It's just fine to keep up with the
Joneses, because conspicuous consumption is good for the economy". Or, "Democracy
is goodness because it allows each one to speak their mind at the ballot
box".
These SNs are thus established in sociological behaviour of the collective,
most importantly as regulators. But at the micro-level a different set of
norms can become established. This is what has happened over the past two
or three decades, in the mad rush to Finance and MBA programs, where the
accent was placed on Profit Making and Business Models that Succeed -- and
ethics (a SN) be damned. There is NO SN regarding profit making, other than,
"Hey, that's OK for me and I don't really care about how".
If one wants an SN of this nature, that is, one that establishes the
notion of Income Equity (meaning “fairness”), but not necessarily Income
Equality, then one must go to other countries. That is, where the notion
of socialism has become ingrained to the point where individual behaviour
is subject to collective behaviour and the latter is regulated in many circumstances,
income being the most notable one.
Socialism is thus one manner in which “societal norms” are translated
into the political methods by which such norms are both obtained and applied
as regulators
If the US has no recognizable sense of socialism, it is because historically
socialism was demonized, quite unlike the historical circumstance in much
of Western Europe.
Thus, without any sense socialism (that is the primacy of the collective
over the individual) then SNs are pretty much a matter of that which is
derived from religious beliefs to those derived from whatever belief is
prevalent at the moment – meaning faddish.
I will grant that SNs are a very important part of any society, because
they regulate normative behaviour. But, in a society, such as the America’s,
where there is no/little sense of regulating collective normative behaviour,
out of a sense of individual rights that must prevail over collective rights,
then SNs can indeed be arbitrary or idiosyncratic. Or, in other words, haphazard
and motivated by forces beyond any control.
If that is what is meant by a Free Market, then you can have it. But
that’s not called freedom, because when it goes wrong, there is no control
mechanism … and it leads to what we call chaos.
And when chaos happens, it is the weak who suffer more than the strong.
Which is just fine, if one thinks Darwinian principles of survival should
prevail.
LEXICON
Regulator = A mechanism that controls or supervises behaviour/action
by means of rules and regulations
Interesting, just doing some late night work while watching Jerry McGuire.
He's writing his mission statement, and he just writes, "fewer clients,
less money". This gets him fired by managers that want more clients, more
money, even though it means less attention to clients who are having some
serious problems and could use guidance and advice.
The freshwater economists (and economics and finance in general sadly)
have pounded into us that owners only care about maximizing profit (NPV),
no matter what that means. But if I was a shareholder at Jerry's agency,
I'd want to follow his advice. It's simply not true that no shareholder
ever wants managers to do things which mean less profits in exchange for
doing good, or being ethical.
If firms were truly democratic, if they had perfect corporate governance,
we'd see this clearly, but with highly diffuse ownership and extremely high
monitoring and information costs (time costs too of course), corporate governance
is severely flawed -- as we painfully see all the time. But a big part of
the problem is what freshwater economists have unfortunately so successfully
sold over the last generation -- greed is always good because we live in
a ridiculously unreal freshwater model.
Where will all that money go? With the interest rates still so low, people
must be desperate for places to park their money. The previous post about
bonds is a good lead in. Bonds are saturated, as are treasuries.
That leaves real estate or emerging markets, neither of which look great
right now.
I suppose treasury yields could just keep getting lower and lower…
It seems this whole zero interest rates ideology
pretty much guarantees some type of bubble.
How the Common Man Sees It Says:
Where will all that money go?
Let’s hope debt. What more people understand is that paying down debt
is just as effective as earning an investment return.
Mannwich:
All that “hard work” for nothing. What a shame.
djiddish98:
“Dow was 10,336 on July 1, 1999. So, I’d say Market’s Flat for 11 years.”
And that doesn’t even include loss from inflation.
As an aside, how come historical prices are never quoted with reflect
to inflation? During the 2008 crash, the media was comparing 2008 crash
dow price with 1997 dow price. However, the 2008 dow price is obviously
even worse than that due to inflation.
You occasionally see this taken into account in a gold article, but rarely
with the stock market. Is it something that shouldn’t be factored for in
a comparison or is it just laziness on behalf of the press?
panchog:
Quantative easing –> Too much “money supply” –> Another bubble somewhere?
Inflation imminent?
Yes, all that money have to go SOMEWHERE, right?
PIIGS can’t fly, and the Fed Reserve audit is coming. It’s going to be
a roller coaster ride again for the rest of 2010, IMHO.
flipspiceland:
Just like this, you end up exactly where you started, but what a hell
of a ride:
@powerpinguin
RE doesn’t really look that bad. It’s been bottoming out as the stock market
rebounds. If you are looking for a store of value, it doesn’t really look
bad to me at all. You bought stocks low, sold them high, now you can buy
RE low. It might not really go anywhere, but it’s probably a great inflation
hedge and unlike commodity ETFs, you can live in it
@How The Common Man Sees It
Like paying off a mortgage, maybe?
@panchog
I wouldn’t be so quick. There’s a big demand for money and liquidity and
safety right now. A bubble is not imminent until there is demand for loans.
I am in the mid-term deflationary camp (as in money supply shrinking) although
I wouldn’t be totally surprised to see price levels tick up in certain places
as people demand “stuff” rather than investments. I’m pretty much with Koo
on this one, Monetary Policy is starting to get a little powerless at this
point, and it’s Fiscal Policy that would keep the momentum going. Even with
all the sovereign debt panic, tsy yields are still dropping in times of
crisis. If the Fed acts responsibly, there shouldn’t be a total threat to
hyperinflation in the short term. As for the sustainability of all this…
well, I don’t know. If you are panicky get yourself some land and cattle
and a silo of grain and stockpile wine and canned goods and guns. Otherwise,
just go with it and instead of running outside in panic, focus on doing
your part by adding value to the economy instead of trying to make a buck
in some game with low value-added. It’s the best you can do as an individual.
hammerandtong200:
If yesterday’s selloff was caused by an error, and presumably that error
was fixed, and now we’re down another 175 points today on the Dow, can I
safely assume that somebody made another error?
Or is this just one of those run-o-the-mill buyer strikes?
Methinks it’s “B”.
WFTA:
Where will all that money go?
Maybe there is too much money.
Trillions misallocated into condos, jet skis and collateralized debt
obligations. The money looking for a safe place to spend the night doesn’t
belong to people with debt to retire.
Maybe this money would be better off being collected in taxes in Greece
and the U.S. of A. so that Standard and Poor’s wouldn’t downgrade them.
They could use it to pay for universal healthcare, wars in Iraq and Afghanistan,
maybe even repair a little crumbling infrastructure.
Have a swell weekend and remember the words of the wise CEO, “It’s only
money and it ain’t mine.”
jeg3:
Nice calls last year and this year BR.
2009 S&P had a nice run up in price (especially
with the fed/gov’t handouts), but the actual dividends paid
drop to 2005 levels. Earnings have dropped each year since
the 2006 peak. 2009 seams to have been a gift for some, but the next few
years may not be so easy to make gains (especially buy and hold/emh types),
unless your a wise trader.
1) Barry is correct about the 25% correction looming. All you really
need to know on this is that everyone and their grandma is on “is this the
‘big one’ we are waiting for” lookout mode while also pushing more and more
money in anticipating the rally to continue “until they raise rates.”
Ride the wave until it’s time to bail then everyone clicks “sell” before
the others, right? Which leads to …
2) Are there enough things likely to happen in 2010 that will cause #1?
Yes, and moreso than usual and more every day.
TDL:
djiddish98,
It’s lazy and lack of sophistication on the part of the media.
While adjusting for inflation it is also beneficial
to factor in dividends.
Technical glitches aside, Blodget had a good
point that the markets were ready to sell off regardless of what happened.
The Dow was off by ~300 before the technical issues and closed
down ~385.
I have not done any valuation work or looked and industry charts, but
what I have been reading suggests that these markets are not cheap (but
they are not expensive either.) I’m inclined to look at James Altucher suggestion
of picking up some cheap shares of the non-bank Greek stocks (if you have
access to the Athens stock exchange all the better.) That being said, there
other deals out there in the world that are more compelling than the U.S.
(or the just mentioned Greek play.)
However, since markets don’t go straight
up or down, it seems wise to take a wait and see approach (particularly
if you have no edge on any specific name and are looking to trade the indices.)
But another side effect of today’s equity market gyrations is further distrust
in the markets, particularly by retail buyers. I am told that various retail
trading platforms were simply not operating during the acute downdraft and rebound.
I couldn’t access hoi polloi Bloomberg news or data pages then either. The idea
that the pros could trade (even if a lot of those trades are cancelled) while
the little guy was shut out reinforces the perception that the markets are treacherous
and the odds are stacked in favor of the big players (even though we all understand
that, it isn’t supposed to be this blatant).
But the bigger issue, despite the stomach-knot-inducing drop in equities,
is the wild gyrations across pretty much all markets. The credit markets were
is disarray BEFORE equities took their cliff dive. Japan has pumped $21 billion
of
emergency liquidity into the market overnight, its biggest operation since
2008.
The Reserve Bank of Australia
warned of the possibility of a sharp economic contraction…..and they are
right. This is classic Keynes liquidity preferences. Keynes, a successful speculator,
identified a crucial link between financial markets and real economic activity.
When investors en masse retreat to the sidelines and prefer to hold cash or
similar highly liquid instruments, the loss of risk capital and restrictions
on lending are a blow to the productive economy. Accordingly, the G-7 has a
conference call set, presumably which will lead to at least coordinated statements,
perhaps some concrete action, to calm markets
a:
“Keynes, a successful speculator,”
Um, not everyone has a father-in-law to make good your debts when you
go bankrupt.
There would be lots of people who would be successful speculators if,
every time they went belly up, someone made could their losses so they could
try again.
“Reader Hubert, who is no fan of the Anglo-Saxon “kick the can down the
road” credit system, nevertheless believes that the least bad way of the
current mess is for the ECB to deploy its balance sheet…”
I love it! In a thread on a US market crash the solution is…for the Europeans
to deploy the ECB’s balance sheet. Let the f*cking markets crash. We’re
in a depression no matter what. Deploying balance sheets and deficit spending
ensures that it’s the lower classes who will bear the greatest burden, while
asset holders, i.e. the rich, get off.
Toby:
I agree with a: what is it we are trying to rescue here? And whether
Keynes was a genius of the stock markets or a spoilt rich kid is neither
here nor there in the final analysis. What matters is addressing the question
of what is damaged, how is it damaged, and if it can be fixed.
This is in my opinion yet another manifestation of systemic breakdown.
The markets are not ‘free’ (they never were), greed is not the deep-motivator
of all human behaviour, there is uncertainty and information asysmetry,
humans are irrational, and so on. We have a creaking, centuries old infrastructure,
both physical and cultural, built atop a heap of fallacious assumptions
and outright ignorance. The system that has grown up as a consequence of
this is failing fast, and will continue to fail (catastrophe looms I fear)
until the core issues are addressed, in as unbiased a manner as humanity
can manage.
Get Bernard Lietaer, the MMT people, plus others otherwise predisposed
in a room together to hammer something out. We badly need a new direction
and a system reset. One way or another change is coming. I’d like the smoothest
version possible, not the roughest. And the roughest is what our inflexible
adherance to the zombie system dooms us to.
Should secretary of Treasury be so concerned with the stock market ? Should
legalized gambling with American retirement saving be stopped ???
The Treasury secretary,
Timothy F. Geithner, was returning to the Treasury about 2 p.m. from the
Capitol when he saw on his BlackBerry that the market was down 3 percent. He
called the Treasury’s market room, which constantly monitors financial exchanges;
officials there theorized that the cause was Greece’s and Europe’s financial
woes.
Minutes later in the Treasury hallway, Mr. Geithner looked again at his BlackBerry
and saw that the market was down nearly 9 percent. He told colleagues it had
to be a mistake.
Next Mr. Geithner spoke with European central bankers. After the markets
closed, at 4:15 and again at 5:45, he joined conference calls with the heads
of the Fed, the
New York Fed, the S.E.C. and the
Commodity Futures Trading Commission; the calls were expected to continue
into the evening.
The
Group of 7 industrial nations’ ministers and governors, including Mr. Geithner,
plan a conference call at 7:30 a.m. Friday Eastern time.
As of about 6 p.m., all the officials knew was that there had been what one
called “a huge, anomalous, unexplained surge in selling, it looks like in Chicago,
at about 2:45.” The source remained unknown, but it had apparently set off
algorithmic trading strategies, which in turn rippled across everything,
pushing trading out of whack and feeding on itself — until it started to reverse.
Federal officials fielded rumors that the culprit was a single stock, a single
institution or execution system, a $16 billion trade that should have been $16
million. But they did not know the truth.
What happens to the day’s market losers will depend on the nature of the
cause and whether it can be identified. That is a question for the S.E.C. The
Nasdaq market said in the evening that it would cancel all trades in hundreds
of stocks whose prices had swung wildly between 2:40 p.m. and 3 p.m.
Mary
this is all very fishy. If the drop was due to computerized selling-
then what explains the bounce back up.
Someone stepped in to keep the market from collapsing.
Our tax dollars at work?
Denver bound passenger
America, THE UNKNOWN IDEAL
Price inflation is advancing on the cost side while economic deflation
is killing us on the asset side. By calling the manipulated near 1% price
inflation a good sign; they completely ignore the forces pulling the national
economy apart. (Have they not been paying their bills lately?)
Economists have completely missed the true picture composed of two important
parts engendering very different forces. The Bureau of Labor Statistics
reported that 162,000 non-farm payroll jobs were created in March. But they
fudged since more than half of them (81,000) were imagined, make-believe,
new jobs created by phantom new businesses that the Labor Department pretended
started up in March. That reduced that actual counted new jobs figure down
to 81,000. Of that 81,000, 40,000 were temporary jobs, reducing the figure
to 41,000. And the Government created 51,000 Census Worker jobs that will
be eliminated within a few months, which means the real economy actually
lost jobs again in March. With 150,000 new entrants into the job market
in March due to normal population growth, this means the economy fell short
by at least 157,000 jobs and their fuzzy math allowed unemployment to remain
at 9.7%. A major problem is that Government has grown in size so much that
it and has overtaken the financials as being the largest sector of the economy
and continues to grow with reckless abandon.
Frederic Schultz, Esq.
To put this nation and world on strong economic footing, we must end
prohibition (legalize drugs) and end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We
are hemorrhaging billions daily that could be spent on firemen, teachers,
and infrastructure. This is all very sad. We must change course now before
things snowball out of control.
times
It's not Greece that is spooking the market. It's the proposed legislation
that will permit the Federal Reserve to be audited. If it passes, all the
naked sleaze bags on Wall Street and in our government will be exposed on
the beach when the tide rolls out. Too much sunlight is a killer.
nmetro
The fake house of cards, the rising stock market just burst its bubble.
For over a year, it was buy, buy, buy to fake an end of the recession. Even
though all the factors were there that the recovery was really not one at
all. Employers are still laying off people, homes are still being foreclosed
upon, companies are going out of business and banks are not lending. The
stock market went up because no was trading; they were picking up bargains,
and with it what looked like a remarkable recovery.
Well, Greece, and the EU, has brought Wall Street back to the land of
reality. Even though Greece pass austerity measures; they will do little
because Greece will not be able to sustain the requirements put upon it
by the EU, the IMGF and the German bankers.
So, welcome to the beginning of the "double dip recession" and Great
Depression II. The house of cards are crumbling with the ruins on the Acropolis.
And this toxicity will spread through the EU as fast as the "black death".
Returning right back her to the US or A.
joeyk
i am not surprised. i don't think the dow has any reason to top 10k.
our recession is not over. it's pure speculation that took the dow that
high. housing is still down. unemployment is still in double digits. larger
corporations are inventory heavy. the consumer is not shopping yet, they
are buying necessities and items on markdown. confidence is still iffy,
at best. we are still at war. obama's numbers are down ...it was only a
matter of time before someone else stumbled.
Nick Lento
Fear and greed....and lots of manipulation.
Ordinary innocent naive investors generally lose and the insiders generally
win. A giant fixed casino....that's the global financial system we now have.
Before a market can be truly free it must be fair and honest. The scammers
are in charge. The irony is that these manipulative tactics are 100% "legal".
Brian Sussman:
The decline shouldn't surprise anyone.
Ultimately the Great Recession will not hit bottom for several years.
I suspect DOW will hit 7,000 or lower way before it reaches 12,000. It could
take 5-15 more years before the USA economy stabilizes, and even that's
dependent on major financial reform, serious regulation, and major 'trust-busting
of our financial institutions.
Several weeks ago, as DOW was approaching 11,000, I warned a few friends
that as soon as DOW hit 11,000 they should sell off and turn their assets
liguid, because that was about as high as DOW could go before the EURO's
problems caught up with the USA economy. I suspect my friends ignored my
advice, and that now their IRAs have lost additional value, and that could
have been avoided.
Meanwhile Wall Street is still playing its games of deception and fraud,
while robbing most Americans of their wealth.
Between our crooked financial institutions, corrupt government, the still-lingering
effects of Katrina, the Oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, the likelihood
of that Oil getting into the Gulf Stream, the Volcano in Iceland, the Euro,
European and American economies, the financial bankruptcy of the the USA
and its States and municipalities, the serious unemployment, the serious
decline of most Baby Boomers retirement funds, etc., one would have to be
lving in fantasy world of delusion and denial to actually expect our economy
to strengthen or even stabilize for many years to come.
MikeeAnderson:
The lemmings follow each other over a cliff, and then the cliff itself
collapses.
The masters of the universe in charge of trading desks really earned
their bonuses today - NOT! Instead of making markets secure by holding off
they exacerbate the decline by dumping stocks with their cute little computer
sell off programs. Why doesn't the Fed or the stock exchange leadership
step in and halt trading until the panic subsides? Free markets are a chaoitic
free-for-all and an 'in free-fall' oxymoron. Keep your assets in cash and
spend it - it has no value anyway.
Donion Foops:
We need a Financial Activity Tax on computerized and micro-trades. The
treasury would be richer, and the tax would add a damping factor on the
computer models.
One might think that the finance giants just wanted to jerk our chains
and panic the public into fear response. After all, big money is made on
market movement, not on market stability.
shaman
the markets here never got to fully correct themselves due to government
interventions (cash for clunkers, tarp, stimulus/porkulus, mortgage rebates)
- but government interventions and exhuberent proclamations of recovery
only last so long and then the markets date with its destiny will play out.
buckle your seat belts ladies and gentlemen, the second act is about to
start and its bumpy.
It's hard to defend the home mortgage interest deduction, but if you're so
inclined, feel free to try:
A tax break that is breaking us, by Edward L. Glaeser, Commentary, Boston
Globe: The latest Case-Shiller housing data suggest that housing markets
have now stabilized. ... This stability makes it possible to move beyond
stop-gap measures and to envision fundamental reforms that will make the
next housing crisis less damaging. Lowering the $1 million cap on the home
mortgage interest deduction is a good place to start. ...
I’m not claiming that government policies, like the mortgage interest deduction,
caused the bubble. The deduction is an old policy that has remained a constant
in good times and bad. Moreover, the bubble can’t be explained by low interest
rates or easy mortgage approvals or high loan-to-value ratios. The historical
relationship between these variables and housing prices is just not large
enough to explain either the boom or bust. America’s great housing convulsion
is best seen as an enormous, almost inexplicable whirlwind that was created
by ebullient, but incorrect, beliefs about never-ending home price appreciation.
But while government policies cannot be blamed for the bubble, they did
exacerbate its damage. For decades, the home mortgage interest deduction
and government-subsidized institutions like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have
made mortgages artificially inexpensive. This subsidy encouraged homebuyers
to borrow like mad and tie their fortunes to the housing market.
During the boom, these policies were thought to lead Americans to accumulate
housing wealth and create an “ownership society.’’
We now know that encouraging people to borrow to buy homes can just
as easily lead towards a "foreclosure society"...
The home mortgage interest deduction also subsidizes Americans to buy bigger
homes... In an age of global warming, why should we subsidize the greater
energy use inherent in larger homes? There is a powerful connection between
structure type and ownership, which means that encouraging homeownership
implicitly encourages sprawl..., which is bad for cities, bad for traffic
congestion and bad for carbon emissions.
The mortgage interest deduction is also extremely
regressive. ... Now that prices have stabilized, we can imagine
slowly leading this political sacred cow towards a good stockyard. The interest
deduction currently has an upper limit of $1 million.
That limit could be reduced by $100,000 per
year over the next seven years, which would lead to a less regressive $300,000
cap. After that point, we could consider replacing the interest
deduction altogether with a flat homeowner’s tax credit that would encourage
homeownership without encouraging borrowing or big houses. ...
Bruce Wilder:
"America’s great housing convulsion is best seen as an enormous, almost
inexplicable whirlwind that was created by ebullient, but incorrect, beliefs
about never-ending home price appreciation. "
No, it's not.
But, I guess somebody's got to pay for those lovely cufflinks.
reason:
I'm sure actually we discussed this issue before. But he is correct,
the home interest deduction should go. Better to DIRECTLY subsidise housing
by creating appropriate infrastructure or subsidising knocking down old
buildings. This is one case where supply side measures make more sense.
Any subsidy on housing (which is mostly land prices), just pushes up the
price and helps no-one but the banks.
paine:
i suggest we figure out what the deduction is worth to the median home
owning household and convert it into a refundable tax credit for every household
renters included
ken melvin:
The deduction is a part of the the leveraging which is the bigger part
of the problem. Get rid of it and tax the piss out of short term gains on
housing.
So as a consequence of the global crisis, China’s growth will rely
more than ever on the growth of household consumption. The good way this can
happen is by a surge in household consumption that will allow economic growth
to remain high. The bad way is by lower growth in household consumption matched
by a very sharp decline in economic growth. If the worriers are right, and non-performing
loans surge, China can nonetheless easily avoid a banking collapse, but that
does not mean the cost of cleaning up the banks will be negligible. On the contrary,
it will put even more downward pressure on low-consuming Chinese households
and will make the inevitable rebalancing of China’s economy much more difficult
than many expect.
As I discussed in a
posting last month, Japan showed how difficult. In the past two decades
Japanese consumption growth has slowed from its headier pace of the 1980s.
Consumption growth has limped along at 1-2% annually from 1990 to now as Japanese
households were forced indirectly to clean up their own bad loans using almost
identical mechanisms – repressed interest rates and an undervalued currency.
Whereas in the 1980s, when Japanese economic growth exceeded its consumption
growth thanks to its large and rising trade surplus, in the past two decades
Japan’s economic growth – less than 0.5% annually – has been less than its consumption
growth as Japan slowly and painfully rebalanced its economy towards consumption.
Likewise perhaps with China. Unless the rest of the world is willing to absorb
rising trade deficits and supply it with rising trade surpluses, rebalancing
for China means that instead of being the lower limit of economic growth, consumption
growth will now be the upper limit. If future Chinese consumption growth also
slows, as it did in Japan, because households are forced to foot the new bad-debt
bill, we may see the real cost of the current explosion in bad loans – several
years of sub-par growth.
charles
More seriously, I think that your post is not only relevant for China, but
for most of the industrial world too. The Financial Sector as a share of
the economy has grown substantially in the last 20 years everywhere. If
it was not due to loan margin increase, it was due to size increase (for
a household, at current low rates, paying 150 bps interest margin on a loan
4 times its annual income is transfering the same money to the banking sector
than paying 300 bps interest on a loan only twice its annual income).
We also witnessed a stagnation of the median real wage in the last decade
that mirrored the depression of the Chinese middle class income. Indeed
the last decade was simply a guilded age worldwide, only for the benefit
of the upper decile of society. The problem is that there is a limit to
what the middle class can absorb, and this limit is close.
If there is no growth worldwide, because the middle class cannot consume
because of low income, and is not willing to borrow because of debt revulsion,
“growing out” of the bad debt will not be an option. Deflation will set
in.
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