Subject: Mark shareware/freeware/etc status to file lists 20. ***** Q: Why don't you mark shareware/freeware/etc status to Garbo's file lists? A: This is one of the suggestions on improving our FTP site that seems to recur. Feedback and ideas from users are always welcome. Please do not be put off by the fact that in this case the response has to be negative. Unfortunately, what is said below for this particular suggestion goes for many other welcome ideas as well. They often would cause too much additional workload stretched as we are at maintaining our FTP archives. Thus although the comments below will concern marking the shareware / freeware status, the comments are partly applicable to many other kind suggestions we get from our gentle users. But please do not prevent this from making suggestions and giving feedback. The suggestion to mark the shareware / freeware status to the files at archive sites is not realistic, not at least on Garbo FTP archives. Archive management takes a lot of effort even the way it is now. There is no way we can afford the effort to categorize even all the new incoming material, let alone what we already have. Try to categorize, say, a hundred packages you do not know in advance. I am sure you'll soon see how daunting the task is. And, if you feel that I exaggerate the amount of extra effort, offers of volunteer work are welcome. (The same answer is applicable for the kind suggestions about putting file sizes into our file indexes). There are offshoots of the question of the shareware / freeware on the archives. First, some users have been deploring the fact that they have to download the material before they can see whether it is free or not. Well, this is a fact of life, and I can only say that downloaders just have to adjust to this state of affairs. As a moderator of an FTP site, I am somewhat unhappy to see that users are occasionally somewhat caustic when commenting on the work they feel they have wasted. Here, I must suggest a reflection of the free nature of the FTP site services. A second offshoot of this discussion is the question whether the FTP sites should carry shareware material at all, because shareware is supposed to be against the non-commercial nature of the net. I won't enter into quibbling about manna from heaven vs facilities are always paid by someone. There has been ample debate on the principle during the existence of the news in many newsgroups. But FTP sites (and BBSes) carry shareware (and freeware) material. That's the way it is, and that's the way it'll probably stay. Who would sort out the different kind of programs, anyway, in actual practice. Besides what about the programs that are free for individuals but payment is required for corporate and similar usage? A third offshoot is the concept of shareware itself, and whether one is obliged to pay for it. This subject is outside the current problem, and besides it has been discussed ad nauseum in many Usenet newsgroups. I don't want to enter into that. My official position as a moderator is clear: "Duly observe the shareware rules". There is, however, one group of programs, relevant to this discussion, which I prefer not to have on Garbo archives, that is the demo versions of fully commercial programs. Since the Usenet principle _and_ practice is an unambiguous no with respect to outright commercial programs. (It would be illegal to distribute them through the net for obvious reasons). Therefore I feel that there is no reason why we should be carrying part of the marketing costs of fully commercial producers of programs by accommodating their demo versions, perhaps with a rare exception of demos of exceptional interest or usefulness. I am occasionally accosted by producers of commercial products. My usual response has been a no for the reasons given here. --------------------------------------------------------------------