Subject: Do not post binaries directly 13. ***** Q: May I just go ahead and post binaries to discussion newsgroups? A: Let me offer some hopefully useful information about distributing material as binary postings on the Usenet news. First of all this should not be taken as a recrimination against any individual poster of binaries to a discussion newsgroup, but rather as a reminder to all of us of the potential problems involved. Because this information is at the same time intended to help the well-meaning posters of binaries, there are pointers at the end of this item on how to make your binary available in the proper way. If someone sees these things differently, ok, but please note that I would rather not get flaming, indignant arguments crashing in over this issue. I'd prefer not to waste the time with the bickering. (All civilized views are naturally always welcome). Also please note that it does not make a decisive difference whether these posting in fact just contains sources and no executables. The problems are similar whatever (binary posting or something else) we decide call this method of distribution. The same applies whether the binary posting is a short or a long one. This is not just a simple question of "bandwidth" (a term some users are so in love with :-). I know and understand that most of who do this mean well, and wish to contribute to the general usefulness of the Usenet news. We all appreciate that. Nevertheless, I would strongly advise against posting binaries to unmoderated discussion newsgroups. On top of that the net rules don't like it, let's look at this from a purely practical point of view. If other netters follow suit and start posting binaries to discussion newsgroups not meant for this purpose, there are several potential problems: 1) The traffic will soon explode, since it is bound to be more or less haphazard. This is bound to invoke action sooner or later from the systems along the feed and/or net administration. 2) There are no guarantees against trojans and other nasties. (This does not mean that the other methods are absolutely safe, but the likelihood is smaller by far.) 3) The probability of commercial material being posted over the net increases, with all the consequent repercussions. 4) The idea is very wasteful of net resources. Remember that there are over 80000 readers in e.g. comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d. Much better to put/get stuff into/from the orderly moderated groups, or use anonymous ftp, mail servers, or good BBSes. 5) Even should the binary posting be just a short minor one, it may easily snowball by invoking others. Even if a single binary posting need not be harmful in any way per se, the danger of the snowballing effect must be kept in mind. Now what to do if you have a useful binary you want to distribute. A much better avenue than posting it, is telling where the utility is available. Or if it is not yet available anywhere on the net, first upload it to a suitable ftp site, or send it to the relevant moderator of the binary postings (provided there is a suitable binary group on the net). If you wish to have the instructions for submitting material to the garbo.uwasa.fi MS-DOS & Windows archives I'll be happy to send you our upload instructions if you email me for them. Or if you wish to FTP the instructions directly, they are available as ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/UPLOAD.INF and /pc/UPTEXT.INF. A2: It is quite usual that some users facing this information tend to counter with something along the lines "But that was a very useful binary". This is missing the actual point. These postings often include per se useful material. But this does _not_ exempt any binary posting, however useful, from the problems listed above. Furthermore, the "ban" on posting binaries to discussion newsgroups is an established net code of conduct. It is not just my view, even if I happen to concur. I am just providing the information for the potential posters. A3: Alan Brown dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz offered this additional point. "Many sites are connected via uucp using 2400bps modems over LD links. They generally don't take binaries groups because of the cost involved in getting them and/or a lack of hard drive space. Posting a binary to a discussion group directly costs them a considerable amount of money and may cause their disks to overflow." A4: When I post this (or similar information) as a followup to a misplaced binary posting on the Usenet news, it often elicits what I call "the bandwidth myth". It usually goes, somewhat aggressively, like this. "Isn't your followup posting as much a waste of bandwidth as the original posting?" This is a fallacy. The comparison is mismatched. The comparison should be not only with the original, misplaced posting but also with all the potential others it helps to redirect to the proper channels. Besides, the purpose is to help users to find their way, not to complain. --------------------------------------------------------------------