Newsgroups: sci.aeronautics.airliners Path: news From: Helen Trillian Rose Subject: Re: Boeing 747-300 References: Message-ID: Approved: kls@ohare.Chicago.COM X-Original-Message-Id: <199211182226.AA03203@rocza.eff.org> Sender: kls@ohare.Chicago.COM Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:26:36 -0500 Karl> == Karl Swartz [....] Karl> Mfr. Type MGTOW seating service Karl> Boeing 747-400 870,000 430 1989 Karl> MacDAC MD-11 618,000 250 1991 Karl> Airbus A-340 559,000 230 1993 Karl> Boeing 777 515,000 ~220 1995 I hadn't thought the B777 was going to be in between the 757 (~200) and 767 (~250) passengers. I thought it was going to fill the niche between the 767 and the 747 -- about the size of the old 747SP in number of seats. The 777 is a widebody as wide as the 747's (3-4-3 seating in economy) and was meant to fill the market left wide open by the L-1011 and DC-10 trijets (one big reason why it has optional folding wingtips: to fit into a DC-10 gate). Karl> In the 600+ passenger market, Boeing has talked about both Karl> further stretches of the 747 and an entirely new aircraft, Karl> sometimes using the N650 moniker. McDonnell-Douglas has most Karl> recently talked about the MD-12 -- once yet another stretch of Karl> the MD-11 -- as a new and much larger aircraft, also in the 600+ Karl> passenger category. McDonnell Douglas has put a hold on the MD-12 for lack of financing (lets face it, would *you* get into bed with a company that produced the DC-10?). Karl> Airbus has said that if there is demand and/or if Boeing builds Karl> such an aircraft, Airbus will build one too. The name A600 or Karl> maybe A2000 seems vaguely familiar though I can't locate any Karl> references. Only Airbus would create a plane just to compete with Boeing. Just imagine, Europe, your tax money is going to support the egos of a bunch of political types. And inciting fear in any airliner fan. What a worthwhile task. --Helen -- Helen Trillian Rose Electronic Frontier Foundation email eff@eff.org for EFF Info Kapor Enterprises, Inc. Flames to: Systems and Networks Administration women-not-to-be-messed-with@eff.org