46134,30,03/11/93,JERRY SCHNEIDER,WARD CHRISTENSEN CBBS HISTORY, Ward: I have several questions to ask you about the history of CBBS/Chicago for a computer history project that I am working on: 1. When did the system actually go on-line? Do you know the exact date in February 1978? 2. What system was it running on? Type of computer and configuration? 3. The BBS software you designed, what was its name? Was both it and the system itself called CBBS? 4. Did you actually put CBBS into the public domain and make it available to others? 5. How did you and Randy Suess get involved in computers? Were both of you "electronics freaks" or "amateur radio buffs" first or did you start with computers? If so, in what way? 6. In what city was CBBS first installed? 7. Do you have any photographs or slides (preferably in color) of you and Randy and/or your first system? Or both? Thanks for any assistance you can give. If you would like to talk voice, I can be reached at 703-764-0272 or, if you can provide me with a voice number, I would be happy to contact you directly. 46135,11,03/11/93,JERRY SCHNEIDER,WARD CHRISTENSEN MORE QUESTIONS,JERY Here are a couple of additional questions that have come to mind: 1. What user group did you and Randy belong to? CACHE? 2. Did MODEM -- the CP/M communications program you wrote -- come before CBBS or after? Thanks again. By the way, I did get the on-line date (2/16/78) and system info (North Star Horizon) from your bulletins. jerry 46234,13,05/08/93,WARD CHRISTENSEN,FERNANDO VALDERRAMA XMODEM IN C, Sorry, I don't know. I think it would be easy to find - I'd try Compuserve, BIX, or perhaps Gene Plantz' system - those are the three biggest systems I know. But I've never looked for it. I did the original in assembler. The "Ward Board" at 708-849-1132 has some C for the CRC routines in the low #'d msgs like 4-5-6-7 somewhere, but not the entire protocol. Randy (Co-inventor of CBBS) has source on his Unix system, but I don't think he's accepting new users right now - maybe out of disk space. If you can get in it is in /src somewhere - rzsz (Zmodem stuff, with X and Y modem as subsets) is in /src/unix/rzsz (but this is for a unix system). Chinet is at (312) 283-0559 for guest access, I think, but the logon tonight said "no guest access" -has for about 2 days. Folks are trying to find why. Maybe he's just in a bad mood, I dunno. 46235,05,05/08/93,WARD CHRISTENSEN,JEFF ROSTON SCROLLING, Traditional ASCII ^S to stop, and ^Q to start, work fine here. Actually, I turn any chars typed while CBBS is scrolling, into control chars, so actually just an "S" or "s" would work. And for simplicity (and for tradition since CP/M worked this way) another S will start it again. Sorry for the problems. 46334,05,06/16/93,BENJAMIN COHEN,WARD CHRISTENSEN R/COMPUTER CHRONICLES, 1979? I think they had the right date; at least when I heard the question I KNEW that they had the right date. Randal's right; the ignorance of the panel on some points was amazing (but they knew some things I didn't know, too). There was nothing quite as bad as last year's "What does the ERASE command do in MS-DOS?" 46335,08,06/17/93,BENJAMIN COHEN,ANDY SHAPIRO R/LAPTOPS, Second thoughts. The laptop that I really covet at the moment is the new Canon with the built-in bubble jet printer. Sigh. Still around $2.5K+. On the more reasonable size is the Gateway 2000 Handbook. At 2.2 pounds, small in size, $1295 (last I saw), only a 286, it's small enough to make the difference between a laptop you take wherever you think you'll need one and the laptop you carry EVERYWHERE all the time. There are some other entrants in this size range, I think. The keyboard really is big enough; my ex-partner reviewed it and really liked it. 46434,01,08/26/93,ROY LIPSCOMB,MICHAEL SHARTIAG R/PROBLEM WITH 20 MHZ 286, Michael, please see preceding message. Thanks for you help. 46534,06,12/17/93,ALEX ZELL,JEFF GRAY STILLWATERS BBS LIST,NONO The Stillwaters BBS list is now maintained by The Hideaway BBS in Chicago's south suburbs at 708-748-1911. It may be downloaded by guests within the brief time limit permitted. Two versions are available: CBBS1293.nam (73K, ASCII) or CBBS1293.zip (23K). The list may also be found on Randy Suess' Chinet in /usr/public. New users may logon to Chinet at 312-283-0559. 46535,16,12/17/93,STEVE FARMILANT,ANDY SHAPIRO R/CPM BASIC TO DOS BASIC?, It's a program that prints a report for a Luria-Nebraska neuropsychological examination, written in the stone age in CP/M... By the way, I converted all of the .bas files to ASCII, and they ran with no problem...I had problems in the past with only converting the main program, which could not find all of the chained files. Having converted all 10 or so small programs, I'm up and running, with the notable exception of the frustrating inability to print to my printer...The program is lousy with CHR$ commands that alter the font, since some of the report is bold, some expanded, some compressed print. I'm attempting to update, literally, the program...Currently, the program is running with the finest technology of 1970. . Thanks for the ideas about removing the CHR$ commands...But this idea would not work, since some of the graphs would be distorted if not condensed. As for the BASIC manual...Hey -- it just might come to that. s