CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 11/09/92 07:35:54 Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U ?^U ?^U ?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss Logging name to disk... You are caller 227950; next msg =45880; 383 active msgs. Prev. call 11/04/92 @ 21:37, next msg was 45869 Recording logon for next time. Use FULL? to check assignments ?^U ?xxxxx "Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K t >Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killeLOG. 17 KILLED. 73 SUMMARY. 25 7893,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, E#45869,6 11/04/92,22:00:11,227894,1,ANDREI SCHEINKMAN,Chicago/IL,4 ]Hello, Ward and Sandy, I have some questions about your BBSI need to ask you them as soon as possible. I dffsdaf n ANDREI SCHEINKMAN, 11/04/92,22:08:23,227895,1,ANDREI SCHEINKMAN,, E#45870,16 ]Hello. This is Andrei Scheinkman and I would like to ask you two (or just one of you) some questions about your BBS. I am writing an article for a historic magazine from Illinois ( a special Illinois Mass Media and Telecommunications Edition). I hope one of you leaves me a message abt when a good time is (or call me on voice 3638903. I wont make this I hope you find time as soon as possible. ANDREI SCHEINKMAN, 11/04/92,22:54:41,227896,2,PETE CALOV,arlington hts./ il, >Help: J,3 11/04/92,23:39:59,227897,2,DONALD WHEAT,,3 11/05/92,00:00:10,227898,2,SAM LENZ,glenview/ il, 11/05/92,02:26:39,227899,2,CYRUS PATEL,,7 11/05/92,05:57:00,227900,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,2 11/05/92,06:57:15,227901,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,2 11/05/92,12:04:57,227902,2,ARNOLD BOYD,,1 11/05/92,12:07:34,227903,9,AARON RILEY,,3 11/05/92,17:30:04,227904,2,DICK OAKES,CALABASAS/ CA,4 ]Hi, folks. I'm a relatively new SysOp and have used PCBoard to create a corporate BBS for Xircom, Inc. (leading mfgr of external LAN adapters that plug into the parallel ports of laptops!), and was simply checking around to see other BBSs. Yours, as the oldest, intrigued me, and I thought I'd log on and see how you were set up. Regards, Dick Oakes voice=818-878-6211 fax=818-878-7630 bbs=818-878-7618 :) DICK OAKES, 11/05/92,18:56:54,227905,2,AL MOY,,4 11/05/92,19:13:26,227906,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,, 11/05/92,19:24:41,227907,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,16 11/05/92,20:36:28,227908,1,ANDREI SCHEINKMAN,,2 ]Ward and Randy. It is Andrei Scheinkman. I would like to talk to you ? about your BBS for an article I am writing. It is just a few questions and would only take a few minutes. I would appreciate it very much if you left me a message about when a good time would be. Or I'll try back this weekend. Thank you very much. ANDREI SCHEINKMAN, 11/05/92,20:42:00,227909,1,ANDREI SCHEINKMAN,,1 11/05/92,23:59:25,227910,2,JIM FLANAGAN,Chicago/Illinois, E#45871,12 ]Ward, Glad to see this bbs is still up and running. Feels great to be on it again Thanks for keeping it running JIM FLANAGAN, 11/06/92,00:34:07,227911,2,BENJAMIN COHEN,, E#45872,12 ]Thanks for maintaining the system. BENJAMIN COHEN, 11/06/92,08:29:15,227912,2,LEO MILLER,RICHARDSON/TEXAS, 11/06/92,09:33:47,227913,2,ANDREW MOORE,Springfield IL,2 11/06/92,12:22:09,227914,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,, 11/06/92,13:47:59,227915,1,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,1 ]Ward,Z I am getting a lot of )line noise urecently I did not have y problems for many ears. I alsoUFdnoticed a similiar mesETxage from another caller. I have recently had this projv.'gz/6Jhblem with this system and *zn another at the 7Vg77 exchange... Are thes-we close.. I have heard actual pb">vops on the line sometimes and hwonder if ma bell is to bla(9k{e. I am calling from 7UH~708 432 107)2~0 7098-432-1070`cI. I can not tell if this is ev#i~en typing correctly \23i[JZ/x_I hjave also tried changis.Qing my modem to no avail. nOc;~So{{I am not having any -(wroblems with other systems I have called int the past. MICHAEL SHARTIAG, 11/06/92,16:48:03,227916,1,BILL WILSON,Chicago Ill.,8 11/06/92,17:02:01,227917,1,RICH FINLEY,maywood,5 11/06/92,17:06:53,227918,1,RICH FINLEY,, >Help: BBS,8 11/06/92,22:46:48,227919,2,KHALIL HAZZIEZ,Evanston,8 11/06/92,22:54:38,227920,2,ED FOSTER,,10 11/06/92,23:16:39,227921,2,DON PIVEN,,4 11/06/92,23:42:50,227922,2,BILL MATTSON,,2 11/07/92,00:00:38,227923,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,1 11/07/92,08:21:34,227924,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,2 11/07/92,10:04:46,227925,2,JIM POLOUS,,6 11/07/92,10:21:32,227926,2,DENNIS STAHL,,3 11/07/92,13:09:55,227927,1,TED KEKATOS,,5 11/07/92,14:00:19,227928,2,CYBERPUNK MUTENG,Chicago/ Ill.,12 11/07/92,15:28:52,227929,2,KENNETH SCHABELSKI,chicago il,3 11/07/92,15:48:43,227930,1,BILL WILSON,,18 11/07/92,18:38:59,227931,2,PETE MILLAS,,6 11/07/92,20:25:33,227932,3,GEORGE BURGIN,Chicago/Ill,3 11/08/92,00:41:55,227933,1,TONY ANTONUCCI,, E#45873,14 11/08/92,02:24:57,227934,2,CYRUS PATEL,,1 11/08/92,08:51:26,227935,2,GARY MCCOY,,5 11/08/92,09:20:03,227936,1,BOB SULLIVAN,,2 11/08/92,09:57:42,227937,1,BOB SULLIVAN,, E#45874,7 11/08/92,10:31:04,227938,2,RICH GUSTAFSON,n.y.,12 11/08/92,13:02:21,227939,1,NORM PHILLIPS,chicago,19 11/08/92,16:18:23,227940,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1 11/08/92,17:08:27,227941,9,NORB DEMBINSKI,,2 11/08/92,18:16:33,227942,2,DONALD DOCKMAN,,1 11/08/92,18:53:27,227943,1,TED MORAN,, E#45875,4 11/08/92,20:46:33,227944,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,1 11/08/92,21:09:10,227945,1,GEORGE BURGIN,,4 11/08/92,23:53:17,227946,2,BILL MATTSON,,0 11/09/92,00:21:00,227947,2,STEVE RYAN,,1 11/09/92,04:59:26,227948,9,ERIC BOHLMAN,, E#45876,8 11/09/92,05:28:51,227949,1,ROY LIPSCOMB,, E#45877, E#45878, E#45879,25 11/09/92,07:35:57,227950,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 11/09/92,07:37:59,227951,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, >Function:?or;45869 45869 11/04/92 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ANDY SHAPIRO: "R/KEYBOARDS AGAIN" 45870 11/04/92 ANDREI SCHEINKMAN => WARD & RANDY: "SUBJECT: AN INTERVIEW W/ WARD/" 45871 11/06/92 JIM FLANAGAN => ALL: "WORDSTAR TRAINER NEEDED" 45872 11/06/92 BENJAMIN COHEN => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/KEYBOARDS AGAIN" 45873 11/08/92 TONY ANTONUCCI => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "FAX" 45874 11/08/92 BOB SULLIVAN => ALL: "MODEM PROBLEM" 45875 11/08/92 TED MORAN => MURRAY ARNOW: "R/ZIP FILES ON MAC?" 45876 11/09/92 ERIC BOHLMAN => ALL: "WHAT COULD CAUSE THIS" 45877 11/09/92 ROY LIPSCOMB => ANDY SHAPIRO: "AT&T YEAR PROBLEM" 45878 11/09/92 ROY LIPSCOMB => WARD & BILL & TONY: "COMMAND.COM" 45879 11/09/92 ROY LIPSCOMB => WARD & ALL: "WIERD PROBLEM SOLVED." - End of summary - Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts. Msg 45869 is 06 line(s) on 11/04/92 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to ANDY SHAPIRO re: R/KEYBOARDS AGAIN Thanks! I tried the Northgate back when I first bought my AST premium in '87, but they had the enlarged enter key and "lost" \ key. I must presume they have changed a lot since then! Do you know if any have the ctrl-caps switch on TOP so a machine with multiple users can have each switch it to their preference? Thanks. Msg 45870 is 09 line(s) on 11/04/92 from ANDREI SCHEINKMAN to WARD & RANDY re: SUBJECT: AN INTERVIEW W/ WARD/ Ward and Randy. I need to ask you two some question about your BBS and some am going to send it to an Illinois Historical magazine for a special Mass Mass media and telecommunications edition. I would really appreciate an interview with you guys, or one of you guys, or anyone knowlagable on the subject. Please leave me a message abt when a good time is. (or call me on voice (363-8903) and leave a message. I would be very thankful and will surely mention your CBBS in my article (or bibliography). THANKS! SEE YA Andrei Scheinkman Msg 45871 is 04 line(s) on 11/06/92 from JIM FLANAGAN to ALL re: WORDSTAR TRAINER NEEDED I have a consulting client who needs a trainer for Wordstar (possibly someone to move them to a new Wordprocessor as well. The person must be excellent in Wordstar and good at training. Please leave a message here or call me at 312-275-3081. Msg 45872 is 07 line(s) on 11/06/92 from BENJAMIN COHEN to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/KEYBOARDS AGAIN I just got a new Northgate 102, and the dip switches are all in a little opening that's on top of the keyboard. There's also a little orange key that lets you make some changes on the fly. I'm not sure whether it lets you change CTRL-CAPs Lock on the fly without looking atthe manual. (Sorry, but I like the large Enter key - I use SmartKey to move /\ to locations that I want (in place of '", but then I use Dvorak layout, which changes lots of things!) Msg 45873 is 13 line(s) on 11/08/92 from TONY ANTONUCCI to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: FAX Just got Faxability With OCR. Send/Recv'd a few FAXes with a friend of mine today to test the OCR. We tried pages with several different fonts and size sizes. It did pretty well, much better than I thought it would. With a fixed pitch font (about 12pt) it only had 2 or 3 errors on the page. The software can put a "~" char before every char it is not sure of. And it did put a "~" before every char it got "wrong", but also a few that were correct. The software can save the OCR output into about 30-40 different formats which is nice. I saved it into Word for Windows format, doctored it up, and retransmitted it all in under 5 minutes. The OCR is pretty slow, with it taking 45-90 seconds per page (lots faster then I can re-type! ); ) It works with many different FAX boards, not just Intel's (but I do have the Intel). Msg 45874 is 11 line(s) on 11/08/92 from BOB SULLIVAN to ALL re: MODEM PROBLEM Has anyone heard of the following problem? I have a PRACTICAL PERIPHERALS modem that is 5+ years old and used about once or twice per week for about 30 min. I have recently moved my computer station to a previous location that worked well last time. This includes the change in phone jacks. Here is the problem. After my first dial out, when I try to dial via the modem it starts ringing instead of dialing along with some other noises. I get around this by adding extra nulls or spaces between the "AT DT"and the actual number. About 30 spaces works well. Any ideas of what the cause is? Ever heard of a similar problem? Thanks for any help. Msg 45875 is 01 line(s) on 11/08/92 from TED MORAN to MURRAY ARNOW re: R/ZIP FILES ON MAC? Thanks you ever so much, I have stuff it deluxe, and will give it a try! Msg 45876 is 11 line(s) on 11/09/92 from ERIC BOHLMAN to ALL re: WHAT COULD CAUSE THIS A client of mine has a Micropolis 1664 330MB ESDI drive with an Ultrastor controller card (the one with the small cache), and a Colorado 250 tape drive with controller (i.e. not using the floppy controller). These were originally installed in a 386DX-16 system and were moved to a DX-40 some months ago. Since the transplant, the client noticed that tape backups were taking significantly longer. While looking into some other things, I ran Norton SI and got a disk performance index of only 2.9 (the reported seek time was about right for the drive, but the data transfer rate was reported as zero) and the test took quite some time to run (no caching software was installed at the time). Has anyone run into something like this before? Msg 45877 is 03 line(s) on 11/09/92 from ROY LIPSCOMB to ANDY SHAPIRO re: AT&T YEAR PROBLEM Andy, thanks for your response to my question. I was waiting to actually change the battery before I thanked you, but I haven't gotten to it yet. So thanks in advance! Msg 45878 is 07 line(s) on 11/09/92 from ROY LIPSCOMB to WARD & BILL & TONY re: COMMAND.COM The variations of COMMAND.COM have forced me to give up on trying to find the errorlevel byte in each. What I've done instead is create a TSR that will intercept all program terminations, and save a copy of the result code. A non-TSR copy of the same utility can then retrieve the latest result code on demand and then display it. (Useful for debugging and development of both programs and *.BAT files.) Thanks for all your responses. Msg 45879 is 15 line(s) on 11/09/92 from ROY LIPSCOMB to WARD & ALL re: WIERD PROBLEM SOLVED. I recently installed DOS 5.0 on my original IBM AT (1984 BIOS). It worked fine except for one peculiar problem: It wouldn't boot from a 3.5" drive, even though I transferred the system to the diskette as specified in the DOS manual. "Big deal," you say; "the BIOS is too old." That's what a techie at the store where I bought DOS 5.0 said. The only thing is, DOS 3.1, 3.2, and 3.3 would all boot from a 3.5" diskette under the same hardware configuration! Even tech support at Microsoft was baffled. Turns out the problem was the boot sector on the diskette. For some reason, the disk parameter block (which describes the diskette format to the ROM-BIOS during a boot and also at other times) had one bad parameter: The hidden sectors value. Instead of the 0000 which is normal for diskettes, it had a value of 8000! Don't know how that value got there; but changing it solved the boot problem- and hasn't caused any other problems yet (knock wood). >Function:? PROTOCOL: ALT COMPRESSION: NONE CONNECT 2400/ARQ CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 11/10/92 00:32:14 Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U ?^U ?^U ?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss Logging name to disk... You are caller 227963; next msg =45888; 381 active msgs. Prev. call 11/09/92 @ 07:35, next msg was 45880 Recording logon for next time. Use FULL? to check assignments ?^U ?xxxxx "Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K t >Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-10 log,ward c;or;*;short LOG. 10 KILLED. 77 SUMMARY. 25 2,07:35:57,227950,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 11/09/92,07:37:59,227951,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 11/09/92,07:46:20,227952,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, E#45880, 11/09/92,07:53:38,227953,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, E#45881, E#45882, E#45883, E#45884,11 11/09/92,14:55:06,227954,2,ALEX ZELL,, 11/09/92,15:06:53,227955,2,DENNIS STAHL,,5 11/09/92,15:12:40,227956,2,ALEX ZELL,, 11/09/92,15:29:51,227957,2,ALEX ZELL,, 11/09/92,17:44:40,227958,2,ALEX ZELL,, E#45885, E#45886, 11/09/92,18:40:25,227959,1,ANDREI SCHEINKMAN,,4 11/09/92,19:03:15,227960,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,, E#45887,3 11/09/92,19:30:42,227961,2,WALT STAGNER,dekalb/il,1 11/09/92,21:12:08,227962,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,2 11/10/92,00:32:17,227963,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 45880 11/09/92 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ANDREI SCHEINKMAN: "R/SUBJECT: AN INTERVIEW W/ WAR" 45881 11/09/92 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ANDREI SCHEINKMAN: "CBBS" 45882 11/09/92 WARD CHRISTENSEN => TONY ANTONUCCI: "R/FAX" 45883 11/09/92 WARD CHRISTENSEN => BOB SULLIVAN: "R/MODEM PROBLEM" 45884 11/09/92 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ROY LIPSCOMB: "R/WIERD PROBLEM SOLVED." 45885X 11/09/92 ALEX ZELL => ALL: "INTERNET ACCESS" 45886 11/09/92 ALEX ZELL => ALL: "INTERNET ACCESS" 45887 11/09/92 ANDY SHAPIRO => WARD/ALL: "DESKJET EXPERIENCES" - End of summary - Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts. Msg 45880 is 15 line(s) on 11/09/92 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to ANDREI SCHEINKMAN re: R/SUBJECT: AN INTERVIEW W/ WAR HI, sorry I am seeing your questions for the first time - I just got back from an out-of-town trip to the "Hacker's Convention" that is an invitation- only conference among industry pioneers, etc. I was really humbled by the list of folks there. You are asking when a good time to ask a few questions would be. Well, it would have been days ago when your first called! A BBS is a way for people to be in contact without having to be on the phone. SO, please ASK your questions at YOUR convenience, and I'll answer them at MY convenience. YOU don't even have to take notes then - you'll have verbatim quotes. So when would be a good time to talk? Right now for the time being there wouldn't be a good time. .by VOICE. but ANY time is FINE by modem to CBBS. Also though I don't plan to call, I wouldn't even if I wanted to - you didn't leave an area code and I'm not about to "try" to see where you might live! Owell, gotta run. Msg 45881 is 03 line(s) on 11/09/92 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to ANDREI SCHEINKMAN re: CBBS By the way, "Subject:" is part of - if you stop to think about it logically - the header information CBBS supplies, you don't have to put it in YOUR subject. Msg 45882 is 10 line(s) on 11/09/92 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to TONY ANTONUCCI re: R/FAX Hey, that Faxability sounds cool - especially the OCR. Tell me, is there a simple editor shipped with it? One problem I saw was if you faxed something into your system, in order to fax it out (i.e. you wanted a graphic image but didn't have a scanner) then you were sending out a fax with YOUR INCOMING header on it. A simple editor to chop that off would be useful. I realize that since you said it could be saved in a bunch of formats, you could drop it into, say, PC Paintxxx but that would be an extra step, and come to think of it, an 8.5" wide 200-dpi image by 11" long (or longer) would be quite LARGE and ungainley to "quickly edit". Msg 45883 is 02 line(s) on 11/09/92 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to BOB SULLIVAN re: R/MODEM PROBLEM How about slowing down the speed at which you send the ATDT - i.e. send it at about 10 char/sec? I can do that in my current COMM program. Msg 45884 is 22 line(s) on 11/09/92 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to ROY LIPSCOMB re: R/WIERD PROBLEM SOLVED. That (8000 as the # if reserved sectors or whatever it was) IS very strange! I should shoot you a copy of my DISKPARM program that quickly dumps the disk parm block off of any floppy or hard disk: DiskParm 9/10/88 by Ward Christensen Defaults to A: drive, or specify a drive: DiskParm c: 00 02 01 01 00 02 E0 00 40 0B F0 09 00 12 00 02 00 00 00 ~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ 512 bytes per sector 1 sectors per cluster 1 reserved sector 2 copies of fat 224 root entries 2880 sectors per disk F0 media descriptor 9 sectors per fat 18 sectors per track 2 heads 0 hidden sectors Actually if there were an 8000 in hidden sectors or reserved sectors, I don't know if it would say "32768" or not! But the HEX part would have shown you it anyway (I wrote it sort of as a tutorial, i.e. so you could see the hex corresponding to the appropriate decimal values). No msg 45885 Msg 45886 is 17 line(s) on 11/09/92 from ALEX ZELL to ALL re: INTERNET ACCESS Direct accesss to the Internet is available to members of the various university communities, and is not generally available to "outsiders." The University of Chicago was rather generous about it for a long time, but recently closed access to all but a few outsiders. Even alumnii were not spared. Chinet, which sits on the same desk as this CBBS, offers indirect access in the form of news and email. (News is now received via satellite.) Direct access to Internet is available through other non-commercial as well as commercial providers. Unfortunately for Chicago residents, the nearest non-commercial providers I know of are Merit/MichNet and CICNet, both of Ann Arbor, Mich and Netillinois and CICNet, both in Urbana. I believe the least costly commercial provider with access via a phone number in downtown Chicago is Holonet, 46 Shattuck Sq., Berkeley,CAl. 94704. Voice: 510-704-0160; FAX: 510-704-8019. Email: info@holonet.net Msg 45887 is 05 line(s) on 11/09/92 from ANDY SHAPIRO to WARD/ALL re: DESKJET EXPERIENCES OK, I'm about to buy a printer - my 8 year old Oki'92 is at death's door. The DeskJet 500 looks good to me, and I kno Ward is a fan,\ SO: What should I know about before plunking $400 or so for it? I've heard that the beasty can be refilled with a syringe and fountain-pen ink, too - is this true?