CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 04/30/92 22:03:44 Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U ?^U ?^U ?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss Logging name to disk... You are caller 226751; next msg =45634; 363 active msgs. Prev. call 04/23/92 @ 21:31, next msg was 45616 Recording logon for next time. Use FULL? to check assignments ?^U ?xxxxx "Mine" command checking for msgs TO >Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short LOG. 6 KILLED. 110 SUMMARY. 24 92,22:03:49,226751,1,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 45616X 04/23/92 BILL MATTSON => AL HIGGINS: "R/OS2 UTILITIES" 45617 04/24/92 BILL WOLFF => BILL MATTSON: "R/OS2 UTILITIES" 04/23/92,21:54:08,226646,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,1 ]Going to Dallas Sunday Noon, returning Thurs PM... WARD CHRISTENSEN, 04/23/92,22:06:16,226647,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,0 04/23/92,22:45:20,226648,2,BILL MATTSON,, E#45616,8 04/23/92,23:34:56,226649,2,DAVID SILVERT,, 04/24/92,00:23:57,226650,2,DON HAWKINSON,Wichita/ Kansas,3 04/24/92,02:28:41,226651,1,ROY LIPSCOMB,,9 04/24/92,06:41:53,226652,2,PETE CANTELE,,1 04/24/92,08:32:24,226653,9,ERIC BOHLMAN,,0 04/24/92,12:13:35,226654,2,RANDY FLEGAL,SILVERADO/CA,4 04/24/92,14:15:15,226655,2,STEVE RYAN,,0 04/24/92,16:29:49,226656,2,F L,y, 04/24/92,17:03:41,226657,2,BILL WOLFF,,1 04/24/92,17:33:33,226658,2,BILL WOLFF,, E#45617,1 04/24/92,17:53:29,226659,2,BILL WOLFF,, E#45618,1 04/24/92,18:36:04,226660,2,AL HIGGINS,, E#45619,13 04/24/92,18:49:29,226661,1,ANDY SHAPIRO,,1 04/24/92,19:43:53,226662,2,ROSEMARY MCGUIRE,chicgo/ ill,4 04/24/92,23:46:03,226663,2,BILL WOLFF,, E#45620,2 04/25/92,00:15:55,226664,2,DAVID JOHNSON,,6 04/25/92,00:28:19,226665,2,CHARLIE KESTNER,,1 04/25/92,07:56:19,226666,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,2 04/25/92,08:52:16,226667,2,BILL WOLFF,,1 04/25/92,11:15:00,226668,3,ANN PELZ,,1 04/25/92,12:06:56,226669,2,BRETT MOOK,Chicago,3 04/25/92,12:08:47,226670,2,RICHARD HINTON,,4 04/25/92,13:37:58,226671,2,ART CLEMONS,,1 04/25/92,13:58:32,226672,2,ALEX ZELL,, 04/25/92,14:56:26,226673,2,AL HIGGINS,,1 04/25/92,16:07:18,226674,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,3 04/25/92,19:12:27,226675,3,JIM COLLING,,5 04/25/92,22:32:11,226676,2,BILL WOLFF,,1 04/25/92,23:02:55,226677,2,BILL MATTSON,,4 04/26/92,02:28:24,226678,2,ALEX ZELL,, 04/26/92,02:37:36,226679,2,ALEX ZELL,, E#45621, 04/26/92,08:40:14,226680,2,BILL WOLFF,,1 04/26/92,09:00:25,226681,2,BILL WOLFF,, E#45622,2 04/26/92,13:18:52,226682,9,ROBERT FULTON,,2 04/26/92,14:17:45,226683,2,RICHARD HINTON,, E#45623,3 04/26/92,16:15:02,226684,2,ART CLEMONS,,1 04/26/92,16:31:02,226685,2,KEN STOX,,4 04/26/92,17:06:02,226686,1,BERNARD GOLDLUST,,1 04/26/92,19:37:12,226687,3,TIM DAVIS,Schaumburg, >Help: BBS LIST,3 04/26/92,20:07:38,226688,2,AL HIGGINS,,3 04/26/92,20:11:47,226689,2,AL HIGGINS,,1 04/26/92,20:28:26,226690,1,ANDY SHAPIRO,,1 04/26/92,21:09:29,226691,2,RONALD NEI,Des Plaines/ IL, >Help: \, 04/26/92,21:39:40,226692,2,BOB LUND,,3 ]hi - How long are messages retained before being deleted? Bob BOB LUND, 04/26/92,22:10:36,226693,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,1 04/26/92,22:17:10,226694,2,MATT KRUEGER,chicago/ il,7 04/26/92,22:39:39,226695,1,JOE GITTA,,5 04/27/92,00:25:25,226696,2,BILL MATTSON,,1 04/27/92,04:28:43,226697,2,PETE JONES,,1 04/27/92,05:17:29,226698,2,DON PIVEN,,1 ]DON PIVEN, 04/27/92,15:31:00,226699,2,DENNIS STAHL,,3 04/27/92,17:06:01,226700,1,MICHAEL BENNETT,CHICAGO/ILL,8 04/27/92,19:27:09,226701,1,ANDY SHAPIRO,,1 04/27/92,21:01:58,226702,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,1 04/28/92,00:03:52,226703,2,RICHARD HINTON,,1 04/28/92,02:29:02,226704,2,ERIC SWANSON,COUNTRY CLUB HILLS/IL,3 04/28/92,02:43:39,226705,2,ERIC SWANSON,,2 04/28/92,07:01:19,226706,1,AL HIGGINS,,2 04/28/92,07:23:01,226707,2,BILL WOLFF,, E#45624,3 04/28/92,09:34:03,226708,2,TONY ANTONUCCI,, E#45625,5 04/28/92,10:55:46,226709,2,DAVID BETHANY,,3 04/28/92,11:13:40,226710,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1 04/28/92,14:15:37,226711,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0 04/28/92,15:47:42,226712,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0 04/28/92,16:09:55,226713,1,BRUNO RUSSO,,3 04/28/92,16:43:16,226714,2,LYNN ANDERSON,,16 04/28/92,19:58:08,226715,2,DON PIVEN,,0 04/28/92,21:26:45,226716,2,MIKE CIHAK,melrose park/ il.,14 04/28/92,22:16:06,226717,2,ALEX ZELL,, 04/28/92,22:30:46,226718,2,BILL WOLFF,, E#45626,2 04/28/92,23:44:41,226719,2,ALEX ZELL,, 04/29/92,00:40:36,226720,2,ALEX ZELL,, 04/29/92,00:46:29,226721,2,ALEX ZELL,, E#45627, 04/29/92,01:39:16,226722,1,G M,, 04/29/92,04:51:37,226723,1,ROY LIPSCOMB,,1 04/29/92,05:47:03,226724,9,NORB DEMBINSKI,,6 04/29/92,06:58:44,226725,1,AL HIGGINS,, 04/29/92,07:03:23,226726,1,AL HIGGINS,, E#45628,6 04/29/92,07:31:26,226727,1,AL HIGGINS,, E#45629,3 04/29/92,07:48:32,226728,2,Q BYE,,1 ]q ?x]@r@0$)evRM-Y6]NYM Q BYE, 04/29/92,10:15:22,226729,2,BILL WOLFF,,4 04/29/92,13:11:24,226730,2,LARRY GLASSMAN,,4 04/29/92,13:36:02,226731,2,DENNIS STAHL,,2 04/29/92,13:54:04,226732,2,ALEX ZELL,, E#45630, 04/29/92,17:46:44,226733,2,ARNOLD BOYD,,2 04/29/92,22:22:23,226734,2,GEORGE KAISER,,2 04/30/92,07:25:28,226735,1,AL HIGGINS,,1 04/30/92,09:31:51,226736,2,LARRY GLASSMAN,,1 04/30/92,10:03:52,226737,1,MIKE KAVADIAS,,1 04/30/92,10:48:22,226738,2,BILL WOLFF,, E#45631, E#45632, E#45633,24 04/30/92,13:54:36,226739,2,DENNIS STAHL,,2 04/30/92,16:07:09,226740,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1 04/30/92,16:08:13,226741,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0 04/30/92,16:14:28,226742,2,RANDAL CRAIG,,2 04/30/92,16:36:29,226743,1,JOHN TENDA,oakton/va,6 04/30/92,17:23:34,226744,1,EMMANUEL SEMMES,,1 04/30/92,17:52:12,226745,2,JEFF HANSEN,,3 04/30/92,18:15:48,226746,1,JOHN TENDA,,5 04/30/92,18:30:45,226747,1,JOHN TENDA,,13 04/30/92,19:06:48,226748,2,MARTY DIPPEL,,16 04/30/92,20:38:06,226749,2,STEVE AIDIKONIS,,3 04/30/92,20:57:33,226750,2,GAYLAND BLOETHE,,6 04/30/92,22:03:49,226751,1,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 45616X 04/23/92 BILL MATTSON => AL HIGGINS: "R/OS2 UTILITIES" 45617 04/24/92 BILL WOLFF => BILL MATTSON: "R/OS2 UTILITIES" 45618 04/24/92 BILL WOLFF => ALL: "QDOS & XTREE" 45619 04/24/92 AL HIGGINS => BILL MATTSON: "R/OS2 UTILITIES" 45620 04/24/92 BILL WOLFF => ALL: "DEBUG" 45621 04/26/92 ALEX ZELL => ERIC BOHLMAN: "COPH" 45622 04/26/92 BILL WOLFF => ALEX ZELL: "R/COPH" 45623 04/26/92 RICHARD HINTON => ALL: "4 MEG DRAM'S?" 45624 04/28/92 BILL WOLFF => RICHARD HINTON: "R/4 MEG DRAM'S?" 45625 04/28/92 TONY ANTONUCCI => ALL: "OS/2 ON D:" 45626 04/28/92 BILL WOLFF => TONY ANTONUCCI: "R/OS/2 ON D:" 45627 04/29/92 ALEX ZELL => BILL WOLFF: "RE/TALKING PRGM" 45628 04/29/92 AL HIGGINS => B MATTSON: "OS2 UTILITIES" 45629 04/29/92 AL HIGGINS => ALL: "WANTED DC600A TAPES" 45630 04/29/92 ALEX ZELL => BOB LUND: "MSG RETENTION" 45631 04/30/92 BILL WOLFF => ALEX ZELL: "R/MSG RETENTION" 45632 04/30/92 BILL WOLFF => JIM POLOUS: "R/HARD DISKS" 45633 04/30/92 BILL WOLFF => MURRAY ARNOW: "R/HARD DISK NOISE" r;* No msg 45616 Msg #:?. Msg 45617 is 04 line(s) on 04/24/92 from BILL WOLFF to BILL MATTSON re: R/OS2 UTILITIES You think looking for OS2 utilities for the your computer is hard to find after using MS-DOS. You ought to try running a Commodore 128 for years and then going to MS-DOS. MS-DOS seems like it has nothing available after using the surplus of 6502 utilities. Msg #:?. Msg 45618 is 04 line(s) on 04/24/92 from BILL WOLFF to ALL re: QDOS & XTREE Does anybody use utilities like QDOS v2.0 and Xtree v2.0 anymore, or am I not moving with the times fast enough and they have better directory and subdirectory utilities out there? What are the latest versions of QDOS and Xtree anyway? Msg #:?. Msg 45619 is 14 line(s) on 04/24/92 from AL HIGGINS to BILL MATTSON re: R/OS2 UTILITIES continued to look into the issue of defrag. of the disk. In my case, our applications were written in FAT file format. We've talked to Norton twice this week and it looks like we can use Norton 6.0 as long as we boot DOS, run Norton use the utili and then boot to OS2. If this works.... this will solve my biggest problem disk defragmentation... As for other Norton utilities, I don't k on OS2.k on If I can get a spare system, or clean up the hard disk, I will try to add DOS in PM and see if I can go from OS2 to DOS and run norton. The problem I have had in the past is our application requires that we have DOSSWAP OFF. Looks as if I'll have to play for a while and see what we can get to work or not work.... Msg #:?. Msg 45620 is 02 line(s) on 04/24/92 from BILL WOLFF to ALL re: DEBUG Does anybody know what the command set for DEBUG is for MS-DOS? If your going to ask what version of MS-DOS, I'll say 3.21. Msg #:?. Msg 45621 is 15 line(s) on 04/26/92 from ALEX ZELL to ERIC BOHLMAN re: COPH The following is part of a note I have received from a friend in New York. I recall that you wrote just such a program for Hadley School, must be at least 7 or 8 years ago. ] A friend, Marie Kessel, has developed a problem with vision. She ] wants to make her computer talk to her. Can anyone suggest good ] software? ] Marie runs halfway houses; one of the problems that comes up is ] dyslexia. She feels that a talking computer could be useful there ] also. ] Her home computer is Macintosh, but the halfway houses are using ] IBM machines. Software for either platform would be interesting. BTW, I have lost track of COPH bbs since its move to the southwest side. Is it still in operation? Msg #:?. Msg 45622 is 14 line(s) on 04/26/92 from BILL WOLFF to ALEX ZELL re: R/COPH Well I realize this is the wrong computer platform, but the following information can be of some good for someone. I know that a Commodore 64 has a number of cards that allows your computer to talk. One even allows your computer to listen too. In fact, the card manufacturer is called: Hearsay, Inc; 1825 74th Street; NY, NY 11204; and they made IBM version too. I am not sure if they did for the MAC or not. Now I know that there are some educational programs that work very well with the above mentioned cards on the C64. There is also an excellent word processor that even talks called "The Write Stuff" and works without any extra hardware. Also there is a communications program called SAMTERM, but it is really slow. You even had to hit CTRL-S once in awhile even at 300 baud, so the term could keep up with the BBS. Msg #:? >Function:?r Msg #:?. Msg 45623 is 05 line(s) on 04/26/92 from RICHARD HINTON to ALL re: 4 MEG DRAM'S? I just read an article in the Economist about the newest type of memory invented in Japan an captilized in the US, called flash memory. But the article memtioned that a 4 meg by 1 bit DRAM chip goes for about $15 each. I have 1 meg by 1 bit DRAM chips, but can't find the 4 meggers? Anyone see the 4 meg DRAMS? Msg #:?. Msg 45624 is 02 line(s) on 04/28/92 from BILL WOLFF to RICHARD HINTON re: R/4 MEG DRAM'S? I've heard about 4 meg chips for about three years now... but no I have not see any either. Msg #:?. Msg 45625 is 04 line(s) on 04/28/92 from TONY ANTONUCCI to ALL re: OS/2 ON D: I have a question. I have plenty of hard disk space but not on drive C: I want to install OS/2 2.0 but the majority will have to reside in D: or E: I have the C: drive partioned as only about 15Meg. Can do? Or must I go t the repartion nightmare. Msg #:?. Msg 45626 is 01 line(s) on 04/28/92 from BILL WOLFF to TONY ANTONUCCI re: R/OS/2 ON D: Oh...oh... doesn't look good Tony! Msg #:?. Msg 45627 is 06 line(s) on 04/29/92 from ALEX ZELL to BILL WOLFF re: RE/TALKING PRGM Thanks for the info. Sent it on to the inquirer via an awful system called "unison" or "parti" or both. I changed the address to Bklyn NY to maintain parity with its zip code. NYC postoffice is very rigid about borough separation. Msg #:?. Msg 45628 is 07 line(s) on 04/29/92 from AL HIGGINS to B MATTSON re: OS2 UTILITIES Found some OS2 utilities... Their called GrammaTech PO Box 70 Edmond OK 73083 Phone 405 359-1219 FAX 405 359-7391 Optimize HPFS volumes, recovers erased files on HPFS or FAT, disk sector editor, test disk data integrity, remove selected files, locate duplicate or lost files, display volume information, etc....... List at $125. Hope to get an evaluation copy to review! Will keep you posted..... Msg #:?. Msg 45629 is 04 line(s) on 04/29/92 from AL HIGGINS to ALL re: WANTED DC600A TAPES Does anyone have any DC600A tape cartridges new or used that they are no longer using or needed and are willing to sell? If so, please leave a MSG here and I'll get back to you...... Msg #:?. Msg 45630 is 05 line(s) on 04/29/92 from ALEX ZELL to BOB LUND re: MSG RETENTION You ask how long messages are retained here. They remain until they are removed by the original author, the addressee, or Ward or an assistant operator, who take them off the top when the active message base approaches its limit. If you do r;1 you will see that at this time the messages go back to Oct 1991. Msg #:?. Msg 45631 is 05 line(s) on 04/30/92 from BILL WOLFF to ALEX ZELL re: R/MSG RETENTION I did a R;1 command and it told me that message 1 wasn't found. I typed the plus key to scan for the next 10. Still nothing. I pressed the plus key about 5 more times and I finally gave up and typed S;1 and it reported the first message number was 45169. So to make an already long story short... just type R;45169 to see the first message. ;-) Msg #:?. Msg 45632 is 04 line(s) on 04/30/92 from BILL WOLFF to JIM POLOUS re: R/HARD DISKS Oh great... now I read your message 45632 about Conner 20 Meg HD. I just bought one a few weeks back and the darn thing died on me. The logic curcuits appear to be okay, it's just that the drive won't spin when requested to do so... what a rip... $300 I paid for it too. Msg #:?. Msg 45633 is 02 line(s) on 04/30/92 from BILL WOLFF to MURRAY ARNOW re: R/HARD DISK NOISE Almost all of my drives (all 10 of them) make a different noise. Funny thing is... the one that makes the most noise seems to be the best one! Msg #:?. Past hi msg # Msg #:? >Function:?