CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
08/21/91 05:56:02

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?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss

Logging name to disk...
You are caller 223274; next msg =45070;  371 active msgs.
Prev. call 08/18/91 @ 22:24, next msg was 45066
Recording logon for next time...
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>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG.         10 
KILLED.      21 
SUMMARY.     24 
08/18/91,22:24:26,223228,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
08/18/91,22:37:53,223229,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#45066,10
08/19/91,00:55:06,223230,3,JOHN WILKERSON,,8
08/19/91,04:21:56,223231,2,JERRY OLSEN,,5
08/19/91,06:22:15,223232,2,PETE JONES,,1
08/19/91,06:44:58,223233,1,AL HIGGINS,,11
08/19/91,07:22:39,223234,2,ALEX ZELL,,2
]ALEX ZELL,
08/19/91,08:16:16,223235,2,LOGAN JOHN,helena/ mt,2
08/19/91,08:38:05,223236,2,JOHN HOWELL,Malvern/ PA,4
08/19/91,09:19:28,223237,1,JOHN MACK,Kansas City/ MO,4
08/19/91,09:35:24,223238,2,BILL FISCHER,,0
08/19/91,11:49:45,223239,1,ROY LIPSCOMB,,2
08/19/91,12:02:43,223240,2,DON PIVEN,,2
08/19/91,12:06:29,223241,2,LYNN ANDERSON,,
E#45067,13
08/19/91,12:43:09,223242,2,DENNIS STAHL,,4
08/19/91,13:00:35,223243,2,MADAME CURRIE,atomic state,7
08/19/91,13:45:53,223244,2,SAYED HASAN,,2
08/19/91,15:36:06,223245,3,JIM COLLING,,118
08/19/91,18:09:51,223246,2,TRENT YDE,elmhurst,4
08/19/91,19:12:57,223247,1,BERNARD GOLDLUST,,1
08/19/91,19:49:44,223248,9,BEN TEIFELD,,3
08/19/91,20:08:26,223249,2,LYNN ANDERSON,,3
08/19/91,20:20:36,223250,2,WILLIAM DAVIES,,
E#45068,13
08/19/91,20:45:38,223251,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,4
08/19/91,21:00:44,223252,9,DAVID GIBBS,,1
08/19/91,21:39:48,223253,3,KEITH MANDELL,,
08/19/91,21:51:51,223254,2,CHARLIE KESTNER,,2
08/19/91,22:30:06,223255,9,DENNIS SLADEK,,2
08/19/91,22:49:57,223256,2,BENJAMIN COHEN,,3
08/19/91,23:15:02,223257,2,KEVIN PERRY,Chicago,10
08/20/91,10:22:05,223258,2,MITCH WAYNE,chicago,
08/20/91,10:39:57,223259,2,GARY ELFRING,,1
08/20/91,10:45:27,223260,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,1
08/20/91,13:30:24,223261,2,LYNN ANDERSON,,3
08/20/91,14:23:34,223262,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
08/20/91,16:02:06,223263,1,LANE LARRISON,,4
08/20/91,17:16:15,223264,2,DON PIVEN,,0
08/20/91,19:15:53,223265,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,1
08/20/91,19:49:50,223266,2,LYNN ANDERSON,,2
08/20/91,21:30:41,223267,1,BERNARD GOLDLUST,,1
08/20/91,22:06:11,223268,2,WILLIAM DAVIES,,2
08/20/91,22:55:45,223269,3,BOB WHITE,dover de.,
>Help:  ,
E#45069,
08/20/91,23:29:16,223270,1,GREG BRADY,,6
08/21/91,00:44:09,223271,2,JOHN DABLADE,BERWYN,3
08/21/91,01:38:29,223272,9,ERIC BOHLMAN,,1
08/21/91,05:22:46,223273,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
08/21/91,05:56:06,223274,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
45066 08/18/91 WARD CHRISTENSEN => MARILYN LITT: "R/FAST! NOT WORKING"
45067 08/19/91 LYNN ANDERSON => ALL: "BEST UTILITY PROGRAM?"
45068 08/19/91 WILLIAM DAVIES => ALL: "CD-ROM"
45069 08/20/91 BOB WHITE => DAVE LEEPER: "DAVE! WHEN YOU GET ON LINE /^U"

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Msg 45066 is 15 line(s) on 08/18/91 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to MARILYN LITT re: R/FAST! NOT WORKING

  You didn't say how much memory you devoted to your cache.  If your
application exceeds your cache space (some default to 64K, which is not
worth the trouble) then you won't see an improvement of any significance.
  I for example on my communications machine, have a 384K cache.  This
allows many applications, such as communications, and editors working on
moderate sized files, to work very quickly.
  You may want upwards of a meg of cache if you have the memory for it
and if your applications are large enough to need it.
  Another thought is that your application is CPU bound, and thus you're
stuck - CACHE won't help - what you'd need is for example an AOX (Waltham,
MA) upgrade - they have a small 386SX upgrade for the model 60 that should
help quite a bit.
  Another thought is that if you don't have a math co-processor, you are
requiring extensive CPU power doing software floating point.  A math
co-processor might be your most cost-effective upgrade.

Msg 45067 is 04 line(s) on 08/19/91 from LYNN ANDERSON
to ALL re: BEST UTILITY PROGRAM?

I just upgraded to DOS 5.0 and none of my old utilities
work, so I am looking for opinions as to which utility
prgoram I should buy.  I only have $ and Disk Space for one.
Any tips will be greatly appreciated.....Lynn

Msg 45068 is 04 line(s) on 08/19/91 from WILLIAM DAVIES
to ALL re: CD-ROM

c
I have just installed DOS 5.0 and find that I cannot use my old extensions
for a HITACHI CD-ROM.
Are there any solutions other than going back to DOS 3.3 ??, or are ther any

Msg 45069 is 01 line(s) on 08/20/91 from BOB WHITE
to DAVE LEEPER re: DAVE! WHEN YOU GET ON LINE /^U

Dave-when you get on line call me immediatly!! Bob White!!
No dup. chars.
>Function:?find dave leeper
+ not found +
>Function:?k;45069
 45069,01,08/20/91,BOB WHITE,DAVE LEEPER
DAVE! WHEN YOU GET ON LINE /^U
>Function:?flash
next:?[dave,leeper, You're supposed to call Bob White.  He left you
next:?a message, but since you're not a caller (or weren't until now)
next:?AND since he seemed to sort of try to delete the msg, I deleted it
next:?and left you this "Flash".
next:?  /Ward Christensen
next:?]
next:?
>Function:?CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
08/21/91 21:50:14

Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
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Logging name to disk...
You are caller 223292; next msg =45076;  374 active msgs.
Prev. call 08/21/91 @ 05:56, next msg was 45070
Recording logon for next time...
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
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>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG.         11 
KILLED.      24 
SUMMARY.     25 
08/21/91,05:56:06,223274,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#45070,4
08/21/91,07:07:52,223275,1,ROY LIPSCOMB,,
E#45071,
E#45072,4
08/21/91,09:05:35,223276,2,DENNIS DUFFNER,,
E#45073,5
08/21/91,10:40:52,223277,1,ROY LIPSCOMB,,
>Help: A,3
08/21/91,10:52:16,223278,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
08/21/91,12:24:41,223279,1,DENNIS ROHR,******,
08/21/91,13:49:00,223280,2,LYNN ANDERSON,,4
08/21/91,14:16:02,223281,2,MEL BROWN,CHICAGO IL,12
08/21/91,14:45:30,223282,2,LYNN ANDERSON,,
E#45074,17
08/21/91,15:05:13,223283,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
08/21/91,16:34:16,223284,2,MARCUS SASIADEK,,4
08/21/91,18:19:51,223285,2,MIKE JOHNSON,bloomindale/IL,
>Help: CLUB,9
]very difficult to understand i will not be back
MIKE JOHNSON,
08/21/91,18:41:48,223286,2,MARTY DIPPEL,,8
08/21/91,18:54:53,223287,2,LYNN ANDERSON,,2
08/21/91,19:01:33,223288,2,WILLIAM DAVIES,,2
08/21/91,19:30:08,223289,2,JERRY KRUG,Park Ridge/Il,4
08/21/91,20:38:44,223290,2,MARTIN SCHRADER,,
E#45075,8
08/21/91,21:07:32,223291,1,ANDY SHAPIRO,,5
08/21/91,21:50:18,223292,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
45070 08/21/91 WARD CHRISTENSEN => LYNN ANDERSON: "R/BEST UTILITY PROGRAM?"
45071X 08/21/91 ROY LIPSCOMB => ALL: "HELP WITH APPLE IIC"
45072 08/21/91 ROY LIPSCOMB => ALL: "HELP W/ APPLE IIC?"
45073 08/21/91 DENNIS DUFFNER => WARD: "DOS5 AND UTILS"
45074 08/21/91 LYNN ANDERSON => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/BEST UTILITY PROGRAM?"
45075 08/21/91 MARTIN SCHRADER => PHIL JERN: "R/ONLINE SERVICES"

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Msg 45070 is 12 line(s) on 08/21/91 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to LYNN ANDERSON re: R/BEST UTILITY PROGRAM?

  That is AMAZING!  I have about 50 utilities, ranging from Stackey,
to Pcopy, DX, TreeView, Command Editor, clock fixes, keyboard speeder-
uppers, etc.
  I haven't switched to DOS 5 yet, but I FAR from expect ALL of them
to stop working!
  Have you tried using the "setver" command?
  Could you give me an example of say a half-dozen of the utilities that
have stopped working?  Perhaps we can analyze what is wrong.  This is
truly amazing.
  ...OR... perhaps you meant to say "my DISK utilities such as Norton
and PC tools" but you just said "NONE of my old Utilities work".  Utility
is too generic a term.  Please be specific.
No msg 45071

Msg 45072 is 06 line(s) on 08/21/91 from ROY LIPSCOMB
to ALL re: HELP W/ APPLE IIC?

A friend has an Apple IIc (about which I know nothing) that I'd like to
set up as a terminal for calling BBSs.  Are there any free or shareware
communications program for the IIc?  If so, is there anyone on the north
side of Chicago that would be willing to provide a disk copy of same?
Please leave a message here, or give me a call anytime after Monday,
Aug 26.  (312) 274-0531.  Thanks much.

Msg 45073 is 03 line(s) on 08/21/91 from DENNIS DUFFNER
to WARD re: DOS5 AND UTILS

Ward, one util that I know has real rpoblems is PMAP134.  Even with
SETVER chenged to include PMAP and telling it that it's looking at DOS3.3,
still has hernias.

Msg 45074 is 13 line(s) on 08/21/91 from LYNN ANDERSON
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/BEST UTILITY PROGRAM?

Ward, you're right most utils will work.  For example I have
PC Tools ver 1.10 and it works ok, except that I can do everything
it does faster from DOS Shell.  The problem seems to lie in programs
which use FAT (just a SWAG).  For example Norton 4.01, Disk
Optimization Ver 1.3, Disk Manager Ver. 4.3, and a generic memory
checker do not operate.

I've been looking at Norton 6.0 and PC Tools 7.0 the features of these
versions have far more features then do the programs I have circa 1985.
I'm just not sure which I should buy? Or if I should instead buy a
variety of individual utils.

Lynn...

Msg 45075 is 09 line(s) on 08/21/91 from MARTIN SCHRADER
to PHIL JERN re: R/ONLINE SERVICES

I don't really know, Phil.  It just seems that all of the online services
available now are run by greedy moneysuckers who concentrate on new,
IMPROVED! ways of charging you extra for every conceivable item of
interest.  It would be nice if there was a simple, cheap, clean, and
fast national service that just had basic BBS type services and file
availability without a lot of extra charges for "extra" services.
Hmm.

B C'ing U...
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