CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 08/18/89 21:11:44 ++LINE > 9 LONG - truncated, return to ACCEPT, ^U to RE-ENTER: >!0'L#3L^U ?^U ?^U ?ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss ++LINE > 9 LONG - truncated, return to ACCEPT, ^U to RE-ENTER: CHRISTENS^U ? Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?n What is your FIRST name?^U ?^U ?^U ?ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss Logging name to disk... You are caller 207934; next msg =42323; 391 active msgs. Prev. call 08/14/89 @ 22:06, next msg was 42299 Recording logon for next time. Use FULL? to check assignments ?^U ?xxxxx "Mine" command checking fo >Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-30 log,ward c;or;*;short LOG. 10 KILLED. 62 SUMMARY. 26 08/14/89,22:06:05,207825,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, E#42299,7 08/14/89,22:28:53,207826,2,KEN WALANSKI,,5 ]KEN WALANSKI, 08/14/89,23:01:31,207827,2,DAVID BETHANY,,3 08/14/89,23:07:33,207828,1,JIM FLANAGAN,,3 08/14/89,23:59:53,207829,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,, E#42300,8 08/15/89,00:23:41,207830,2,JOHN COOPER,,2 08/15/89,00:34:21,207831,2,JOHN COOPER,,0 08/15/89,00:52:38,207832,2,PHILL AMICK,Berwyn,5 ]Thanks PHILL AMICK, 08/15/89,02:37:54,207833,2,ALEX ZELL,, 08/15/89,05:56:37,207834,2,TOM KOWALCZYK,,3 08/15/89,08:31:02,207835,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,, E#42301,10 08/15/89,09:03:00,207836,1,GRAHAM GAMBLE,,6 08/15/89,09:14:18,207837,1,GRAHAM GAMBLE,, E#42302, E#42303, E#42304, >Help: EED,17 08/15/89,09:48:14,207838,1,EDGAR COUDAL,,3 08/15/89,09:53:07,207839,1,EDGAR COUDAL,,2 08/15/89,09:55:46,207840,2,EDGAR COUDAL,,7 08/15/89,10:06:40,207841,1,GILBERT KOZLOWSKI,chicago il,2 08/15/89,12:24:33,207842,2,DONALD CROSS,,0 08/15/89,14:06:18,207843,3,PHIL SCHUMAN,,103 08/15/89,15:14:49,207844,1,GARY MCCOY,,8 08/15/89,15:24:27,207845,2,MARTY LINGG,,1 08/15/89,16:03:05,207846,1,PETER DELGADO,chicago il, 08/15/89,16:41:36,207847,1,GIL SHARON,chicago/il,5 08/15/89,18:19:17,207848,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,1 08/15/89,19:30:51,207849,2,RICHARD HINTON,, E#42305,3 08/15/89,20:04:43,207850,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,, E#42306,3 08/15/89,20:52:05,207851,2,MARTY DIPPEL,, 08/15/89,20:55:02,207852,2,MARTY DIPPEL,,7 08/15/89,21:26:13,207853,1,CHARLIE KESTNER,,4 08/15/89,21:36:13,207854,2,DAVID GIBBS,,3 08/15/89,22:22:23,207855,1,PHIL CUMMINGS,amarillo tx, ]CHAT: transmission protocal, 08/15/89,22:57:30,207856,2,JIM POLOUS,,3 08/15/89,23:13:50,207857,1,STEVE BOGOLUB,,8 ]Tony: Gadzooks! I extend my sympathies for your mates in the plane, may they compute well and long in future lives, but most of all a best wishes and thorough recovery to you, and pleased I am you haven't left us! Wow. Gotta be a better way to get some attention, pal! Take it REAL light! All: I'd rather just go ahead and dump the personals in here, instead of OPLOG. Of course, I always use TYPEC... STEVE BOGOLUB, 08/16/89,00:56:57,207858,2,BILL MATTSON,,3 08/16/89,02:05:42,207859,2,ALEX ZELL,, 08/16/89,02:09:26,207860,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,2 08/16/89,06:30:48,207861,1,MICHAEL MCDANIEL,, 08/16/89,07:00:53,207862,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,3 08/16/89,07:19:41,207863,1,MICHAEL MCDANIEL,, 08/16/89,08:38:01,207864,1,MICHAEL MCDANIEL,,2 08/16/89,09:46:40,207865,2,RICHARD HINTON,,1 08/16/89,09:50:12,207866,2,EDGAR COUDAL,,6 ]My god, this 2400 stuff is something else. Take that from a guy who klutzed along with a 300 baud PMMI for six years, moved to a 1200 BSR from DAK ($79) last winter, and is now at 2400. Amzing. EDGAR COUDAL, 08/16/89,10:50:50,207867,2,DON PIVEN,,1 08/16/89,10:55:45,207868,2,ANDREW DECKOWITZ,,9 08/16/89,11:39:45,207869,1,MARVIN LUSTGARTEN,CHICAGO/ILL., 08/16/89,12:46:24,207870,2,BILL TANEY,Deerfield Il,1 08/16/89,13:33:47,207871,2,STEVE COOK,,6 08/16/89,14:14:20,207872,2,MICHAEL MCNALLY,,1 08/16/89,14:23:33,207873,2,MICHAEL MCNALLY,,2 08/16/89,17:00:29,207874,3,MARK MESSIER MESSIER,MONTREAL CANADA, ]CHAT: WANT TO TALK TO AN AMERICAN..IM FROM CANADA,3 ]Vz3 MARK MESSIER MESSIER, 08/16/89,17:32:31,207875,1,JOHN MUNDT,,3 08/16/89,17:38:54,207876,2,JOSEPH SKOM,,5 08/16/89,17:55:12,207877,1,ALPHONSO CARTER,, E#42307, ]CHAT: ODanti-virus prohgrams, E#42308,42 08/16/89,19:39:51,207878,1,JOHN MUNDT,, 08/16/89,20:14:17,207879,1,CHARLIE KESTNER,,1 08/16/89,20:38:34,207880,1,DARYL HATTER,ANCHORAGE/ ALASKA, 08/16/89,21:27:56,207881,1,BRENT JONES,, E#42309, E#42310,16 08/16/89,21:51:15,207882,1,DONNIE STUHLMAN,,8 08/16/89,22:24:51,207883,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,, E#42311,5 08/16/89,23:18:39,207884,2,ALEX ZELL,, 08/17/89,01:30:29,207885,2,JOE MCGUCKIN,, 08/17/89,01:33:00,207886,1,BILL BRAUN,Chicago,23 08/17/89,07:05:48,207887,1,ART WALLER,,1 08/17/89,08:00:26,207888,1,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,1 08/17/89,08:30:01,207889,2,DENNIS STAHL,,16 08/17/89,10:52:26,207890,2,RICHARD HINTON,, E#42312,3 08/17/89,12:25:29,207891,1,A A,c, 08/17/89,13:09:48,207892,3,PHIL SCHUMAN,,46 08/17/89,15:56:18,207893,1,JOE JENSEN,Roseville/ Mich,9 08/17/89,16:23:33,207894,2,ART CLEMONS,,5 08/17/89,16:51:33,207895,2,JEFF YOUNG,chicago, 08/17/89,17:13:05,207896,1,COLIN SCHROEDER,, E#42313, E#42314,11 08/17/89,19:29:06,207897,2,JEFF YOUNG,, 08/17/89,19:47:49,207898,1,CHARLIE KESTNER,,3 08/17/89,20:12:57,207899,1,RODNEY MAIER,,3 08/17/89,20:21:45,207900,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,, E#42315,4 08/17/89,20:33:01,207901,1,RON AIELLO,chgo/ il/,2 08/17/89,20:43:16,207902,2,ALEX ZELL,, 08/17/89,20:59:37,207903,1,JIM MATLOCK,Chicago/ IL, >Help: BBSLIST, >Help: BBS LIST,11 08/17/89,21:09:44,207904,1,JIM MATLOCK,,3 08/17/89,21:13:21,207905,1,JIM MATLOCK,, E#42316,14 08/17/89,21:58:32,207906,2,JIM POLOUS,, E#42317,4 08/17/89,22:13:14,207907,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,17 08/17/89,22:30:56,207908,2,PHIL JERN,,5 08/17/89,23:06:48,207909,1,BRENT JONES,, E#42318,7 08/18/89,00:50:35,207910,3,GABRIEL JENKINS,,3 08/18/89,02:31:03,207911,2,DEAN BLEESS,,11 08/18/89,02:42:25,207912,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,, E#42319, E#42320,4 08/18/89,04:22:35,207913,2,ALEX ZELL,, 08/18/89,05:29:35,207914,2,PETE JONES,,2 08/18/89,07:45:33,207915,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,1 08/18/89,08:03:54,207916,1,BRENT JONES,,1 08/18/89,08:38:10,207917,2,BILL WOLFF,, E#42321,15 08/18/89,09:21:41,207918,1,BILL WOLFF,, E#42322,3 08/18/89,09:53:47,207919,2,STEVE AIDIKONIS,,6 08/18/89,11:00:43,207920,2,JOHN O'HARA,,1 08/18/89,11:20:13,207921,2,GARY ELFRING,,1 08/18/89,11:59:25,207922,1,GERALD CLARK,ingleside/il,6 08/18/89,12:41:56,207923,2,LARRY HITZ,,8 08/18/89,13:48:59,207924,2,DENNIS ROHR,, 08/18/89,14:27:07,207925,2,HANK PHILIP,chicago,3 08/18/89,14:39:38,207926,1,DAVE HASSAN,DEERFIELD IL,5 08/18/89,15:56:50,207927,1,LANE LARRISON,,1 08/18/89,16:07:48,207928,1,LANE LARRISON,,5 08/18/89,16:13:51,207929,1,LANE LARRISON,,4 08/18/89,16:54:01,207930,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,3 08/18/89,17:37:19,207931,2,BILL WOLFF,,3 08/18/89,19:36:43,207932,2,ALEX ZELL,, 08/18/89,20:17:34,207933,2,PHIL JERN,,1 08/18/89,21:12:20,207934,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 42299 08/14/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => BRENT JONES: "R/MESSAGE NUMBERS" 42300 08/15/89 ERIC BOHLMAN => RICHARD GOZDAL: "EXTENDED MEMORY" 42301 08/15/89 RICHARD GOZDAL => ERIC BOHLMAN: "R/EXTENDED MEMORY" 42302 08/15/89 GRAHAM GAMBLE => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/BBS POSTING" 42303 08/15/89 GRAHAM GAMBLE => JERRY OLSEN: "R/'C' BOARD" 42304 08/15/89 GRAHAM GAMBLE => ERIC BOHLMAN: "R/C BOARD" 42305 08/15/89 RICHARD HINTON => ALL: "LOW LEVEL FORMAT" 42306 08/15/89 RICHARD GOZDAL => RICHARD HINTON: "R/LOW LEVEL FORMAT" 42307 08/16/89 ALPHONSO CARTER => SYSOP: "VIRUSES" 42308 08/16/89 ALPHONSO CARTER => ZSYSOP: "BACKSPACING WHEN TYPING" 42309 08/16/89 BRENT JONES => WARD C: "THANKS" 42310 08/16/89 BRENT JONES => WARD C: "LINE NOISE" 42311 08/16/89 ERIC BOHLMAN => ALPHONSO CARTER: "R/VIRUSES" 42312 08/17/89 RICHARD HINTON => RICHARD GOZDAL: "R/LOW LEVEL FORMAT" 42313 08/17/89 COLIN SCHROEDER => ERIC BOHLMAN: "R/SOFTWARE UPGRADES" 42314 08/17/89 COLIN SCHROEDER => ED FOSTER: "R/NEW 386" 42315 08/17/89 RICHARD GOZDAL => RICHARD HINTON: "R/LOW LEVEL FORMAT" 42316 08/17/89 JIM MATLOCK => JIM SACKETT: "R/INFO ON STARTING A BBS" 42317 08/17/89 JIM POLOUS => ALL: "PRODIGY WARNING" 42318 08/17/89 BRENT JONES => JIM POLOUS: "R/PRODIGY WARNING" 42319 08/18/89 ERIC BOHLMAN => RICHARD HINTON: "R/LOW LEVEL FORMAT" 42320 08/18/89 ERIC BOHLMAN => COLIN SCHROEDER: "R/SOFTWARE UPGRADES" 42321 08/18/89 BILL WOLFF => ALL: "SHARP'S 4501 LAPTOP" 42322 08/18/89 BILL WOLFF => ALPHONSO CARTER: "R/VIRUSES" - End of summary - Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts. Msg 42299 is 30 line(s) on 08/14/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to BRENT JONES re: R/MESSAGE NUMBERS Heh heh - I got REAL beat up when I used to re-start the msg #'s. But actually, I very seldom type a msg #. For example, the command o;* will give you one line summaries from your previous call. Or, OR;* will do one-line summaries with AUTO retrieve. OR, what I recommend, is doing r;* which will retrieve the first msg left since your previous call (possibly including any you left at that time) and then you can ^C once into the text if you don't want to see 'em, then use "." to retrieve the next msg # when asked "Msg #:", or use "," to retrieve the previous msg #. Yet another way to avoid msg #'s is to use relative msg #'s - relative to the current "high" msg #. For example, r;-1 will retrieve the most recently entered msg. You could then enter "," to retrieve the previous one, etc. If you see one you want to reply to, you can RE to it when asked for a msg #. These are all very kludgy and inconsistent, but there is quite a bit of "power there". Also, when asked for a msg # AFTER the first, you need only enter the digits that CHANGE, so you might just o;*, then R the correct msg # (typing the entire thing in once) then lets say it si 42302, you could then retrieve 43808 by just typing an 8, since that is the only trailing digit that changed. As if all this weren't enough, the "OR" (one line summary with retrieve) or QR (quick) or SR (longer summary) will "remember" the first 9 msg #'s found in "variables" called #1 thru #9, so you could, if you call frequently, do an or;* to start auto-retrieve since you last call, then ^K out of it, after it starts showing the first msg contents, then, looking at the 1-line summaries, do r;#8 for example to get the 8th of the new msgs. Heh heh. You can see why I say I seldom enter msg #'s. Matter of fact, I sometimes "guess" i.e. r;-7 and if I'm off a bit, use , or ., or if I'm way off, I try again i.e. r;-12 etc. I don't like typin' 'em either! I don't! Msg 42300 is 08 line(s) on 08/15/89 from ERIC BOHLMAN to RICHARD GOZDAL re: EXTENDED MEMORY You might look into programs like QEMM or 386-To-The-Max which will let you remap extended memory (which most programs can't address) as expanded memory (which some can). They also have ways of putting drivers and the like in extended memory. Both programs run about $50. BTW, how much memory do you have in your machine? P.S. Your earlier message indicated a bit of confusion. There's NO motherboard memory in the range between 640K and 1MEG. That space is occupied by BIOS ROMS, video memory and that sort of thing. Msg 42301 is 18 line(s) on 08/15/89 from RICHARD GOZDAL to ERIC BOHLMAN re: R/EXTENDED MEMORY 1) I have 2 meg. 2) Those pgms look interesting, will look into them. 3) I was confused. I played around for a few hours, read the DOS manula a little and checked with a util pgm that came with the computer. I have two config.sys files (to alternate with). One gives me the full RAM 1 meg and the other gives me the full 1 meg as expanded mem which I use for another run. It tok a little bit of practice with the config.sys file and placing the RIGHT driver "first". I can also mess up the system and make expanded memory out of the 640K to 1 meg RAM on board. With this new video I have to see what it does and how it uses mem. The rest shouldbe similiar but loading a 800 X 600 video driver takes up some regular memory! Wish it worked for MS WORD which I use. Oh well, didn't upgrade to V5 anyway! Finally tested the LQ printer. The fun begins now playing around with all the different fonts I can use and hopefully merge. Realize I should have gone to more than 80 meg HD but by time I NEED more I should KNOW how I want to install more HS space. Having a ball with this (until I get practical). Msg 42302 is 01 line(s) on 08/15/89 from GRAHAM GAMBLE to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/BBS POSTING Thanks, Ward. I appreciate your help! Msg 42303 is 01 line(s) on 08/15/89 from GRAHAM GAMBLE to JERRY OLSEN re: R/'C' BOARD Thanks for the advice, Jerry. I really appreciate your help! Msg 42304 is 01 line(s) on 08/15/89 from GRAHAM GAMBLE to ERIC BOHLMAN re: R/C BOARD Thanks, Eric. I appreciate the tip! Msg 42305 is 06 line(s) on 08/15/89 from RICHARD HINTON to ALL re: LOW LEVEL FORMAT I low level formated a disk but I forgot the process. I think I used debug, then FDISK, and then the high level format. I will be getting a 65mB hard drive (Mitsubishi 535) which I have to do the whole thing-low level, configure, then high level format. But I forgot how to do it. I did in on a 32 megger but I forgot the process-is ther a simple book? Thanks. Msg 42306 is 04 line(s) on 08/15/89 from RICHARD GOZDAL to RICHARD HINTON re: R/LOW LEVEL FORMAT I couldn't use Debug on my 80 meg. Used a Disk manager for the low lwvwl format then Fdisk for the partitioning then Format for high level format. I WOULD like to know how to low level with Debug on a BIG disk also. Msg 42307 is 07 line(s) on 08/16/89 from ALPHONSO CARTER to SYSOP re: VIRUSES I would like to get some information on where i can get some anti-virus programs for the C-128 Computer. I don't know if there are any out there. If you know of any would you please inform me where I can buy them. I do not want to down load anything as programs may be comtaminated from B.B.S's I do not want to exchange anything as exchange programs may be comtaminated. any help you can give would help me a lot. thank you in advance. Alphonso Carter Msg 42308 is 03 line(s) on 08/16/89 from ALPHONSO CARTER to ZSYSOP re: BACKSPACING WHEN TYPING Why is it that on this board I cannot backspace/insert? when I try to do so I get a lot of garbage. I cannot insert into a line of text also, please explain? Msg 42309 is 09 line(s) on 08/16/89 from BRENT JONES to WARD C re: THANKS You are right, Ward, the software here is plenty elegant and powerful I guess that I am guilt of not reading all the instrucions on all the various BBS that I have been looking at. Do you log onto any particular BBS of note? I am looking for the a pie in the sky-"The World's Easiest to Use for Novices BBS Software". The reason for this is I want to establish an inter-agency board for some folks who don't currently know about BBS and could REALLY make good use of them. They would be so intimidated by every BBS I have seen thus far, that I don't think they would give it a fair shake. Msg 42310 is 03 line(s) on 08/16/89 from BRENT JONES to WARD C re: LINE NOISE I can't use your BBS at 2400 because of a lot of line noise. This is all the time, not just sometimes. And I don't get very much noise on other bbs. Is your better modem still out of order? Msg 42311 is 09 line(s) on 08/16/89 from ERIC BOHLMAN to ALPHONSO CARTER re: R/VIRUSES Actually, the Commodore 128 should be fairly immune to virus problems due to the fact that 1) in most cases it's a floppy-only system and 2) the operating system is contained in ROM. 1) means there's no hard disk to trash and 2) means that a nasty prograwMm"Dq|7 can't attach itself to the operating system and spread itself. I haven't been much involved with Commodore systems for the last few years, so I'm not sure what the current thinking is, other than to say that if it looks too good to be true, it probably is, i.e. the most likely method of distributing "nastyware" would be in the form of pirated commercial programs. Msg 42312 is 05 line(s) on 08/17/89 from RICHARD HINTON to RICHARD GOZDAL re: R/LOW LEVEL FORMAT Well I called up the company that makes the computer and installed the Adap2372B controller and they said this controller would indeed do a low level format on a larger (65mB) drive. I still have forgotten the g:0800 sequence that starts the debug program though.it is G:0800 something or other. Msg 42313 is 10 line(s) on 08/17/89 from COLIN SCHROEDER to ERIC BOHLMAN re: R/SOFTWARE UPGRADES well, i found out that i had a lot to learn about configuring hardware properly, even though i'm far from computer illiterate! finally got the beast running today w/ an ESDI drive/ctrlr, after trying almost every conceivable set of jumpoer settings on board and drive, and every conceivable combination of video, ctrlr, etc. cards. btw, turns out this is not a 'true' Step - doesn't use everex's proprietary ram caching, but instead probably uses cascaded intel cache controllers. I can up it to 256K if i want, but i don't see any reason. i'll keep passing the good word on spear. Msg 42314 is 09 line(s) on 08/17/89 from COLIN SCHROEDER to ED FOSTER re: R/NEW 386 Yes! The system is finally up and running, after I took a day off work to continue pursuing my goal! I gave up on the SCSI drive and opted for an ESDI (btw, PC PROS out in Darien had a special on Miniscribe ESDI drive mdl 3130E (110 Mb, 17ms access) for $649! it's "while they last", but what a sweet deal-you might find it worthwile. Their # is 810-1010, and they seem to be a good bunch. I'm glad to hear your new system is running well-with the interior room, I can see how it would be a good component tester! Well, all's well that ends well. Talk to you later. Msg 42315 is 01 line(s) on 08/17/89 from RICHARD GOZDAL to RICHARD HINTON re: R/LOW LEVEL FORMAT g=c800:5 Msg 42316 is 03 line(s) on 08/17/89 from JIM MATLOCK to JIM SACKETT re: R/INFO ON STARTING A BBS Let me know of any information you find out in starting a BBS please. Thanks, Jim Matlock Msg 42317 is 08 line(s) on 08/17/89 from JIM POLOUS to ALL re: PRODIGY WARNING Today I stopped in my local Sears store and purchased a $39.99 PRODIGY information service kit. Prodigy is the new information service that is a joint effort between IBM and Sears. Well, this is a warning to any fellow impulse buyers out there. Prodigy does not have a local 312 number for dial up yet! If you buy it and open the password you may not be able to return it. The closest number is in the state of Michigan. They are scheduled to have a Chicago number in two to three weeks. Just thought that I'd let you know. Msg 42318 is 04 line(s) on 08/17/89 from BRENT JONES to JIM POLOUS re: R/PRODIGY WARNING If you would do me a favor and let me know how you like Prodigy, I would really appreciate it. Either leave a note here or call me directly at 312/665-4462 Brent Jones For only $9.95 per MONTH Prodigy has great potential-hope it is as useful as CompuServe. Msg 42319 is 01 line(s) on 08/18/89 from ERIC BOHLMAN to RICHARD HINTON re: R/LOW LEVEL FORMAT For Adaptec controllers, it's usually g=c800:ccc. Msg 42320 is 02 line(s) on 08/18/89 from ERIC BOHLMAN to COLIN SCHROEDER re: R/SOFTWARE UPGRADES Mine uses page mode interleaving. Not sure whose controller chip is being used. Msg 42321 is 09 line(s) on 08/18/89 from BILL WOLFF to ALL re: SHARP'S 4501 LAPTOP A computer store in ST. Louis is selling laptops for $325.00. The name of the store is called "ConnectingPoint" and their number is (314) 231-1994 and talk to Stan. Tell him that Bill Wolff sent you. The other Bill Kuy. on CFOG mentioned to me that Sharp had trouble with these laptops. I didn't know that when I bought mine. So far it works great and has a year warranty with it. I bought it with my American Express card, so that is really two years right? But since I bought it I ordered another drive and chips tke it 640K. It comes with 256K and one drive. Msg 42322 is 08 line(s) on 08/18/89 from BILL WOLFF to ALPHONSO CARTER re: R/VIRUSES I work with the C128 a lot and I know of no Commodore 64 or 128 anti-virus program. On top of that, I know of no virus problems on either computer. GEOS and CP/M are disk based operating systems though, and can have problems with viruses that could written to your boot disk. But I have yet heard of any problems with them either. The only Commodore computers that has known viruses are the Amiga and the MS-DOS line of computers. For now though, the C64 and the C128 are safe. Enjoy! dup. chars. >Function:?