This is a message I wrote to Carson Wilson on Lillipute Z-Node and wanted to share with the general CP/M public regarding his new program FILEDATE which I am testing, and which will be released, I believe, when the new NZCOM/Z3PLUS BDOS'es ZDDOS and ZSDOS are available. FILEDATE is a directory utility with full datestamping support with an incredible number of command-line options that give the user the ability to sort by date in ascending or descending order, display only those files created (or accessed) on a certain day, etc. etc. It's an excellent program the likes of which the CP/M-compatible world has not previously had. Those with datestamping have a great deal to look forward to when the program is released. - Rick Charnes, June 3, 1988 Carson, it is absolutely extraordinary. FDATE, that is. Until I logged on here two days ago and got your message I hadn't used it at all. Based on our phone call a few weeks ago I was under the impression that it wouldn't work on my Z8D3 system. I _thought_ I remember you saying that when we had talked and therefore was just waiting till the new DOS was available. When I got your message telling me about SAP, etc. though, I immediately went through the FDATE documentation and gave it a spin ... it's quite, quite marvelous. I have wanted a program like this for some time, thought I was the only person to have such a desire (never heard anyone talking about it!) and am now pleased as punch at what you have created. The incredible number and variety of command line options gives it a flexibility and power I hadn't even dreamed of. I mean, Jeez - I've been playing around a bit in the MS-DOS public domain and haven't found anything that can match this. I would have to say that with FDATE, DATSWEEP, (UN)CR23D, Jay's new DateStamper- supporting ARUNZ09M which I'm beta-testing (which with its DateStamper-based parameterization is breathtaking in the fineness of what a user can do), SAVSTAMP, LBREXT26, LPUT15A, and many, many more (I know I'm leaving out a whole slew) along with DateStamper and Z80DOS generally we are fast approaching the point where we can quite honestly and simply say that our datestamping is superior to DOS's. I have been mulling over in my head how this seemingly puzzling state of affairs -- that the datestamping of an obviously antiquated and useless operating system is superior to that of the popular OS -- can have come about. I have been tickled by the notion that it may be due, rather ironically, to the very fact that the DOSers have long taken datestamping for granted and have assumed that no improvement is necessary over what they have. We, on the other hand, have had to work (very hard!) for it, and consequently have had to develop it by getting dirt between our fingernails. We have made virtue out of necessity -- in the good, rather than sour grapes, sense. We have had a number of superb programmer visionaries at work at it, constantly updating, refining, receiving and manifesting new ideas ... For instance, the fact that MS-DOS has no way of keeping track of a word-processed file's date of creation -- but more importantly ** that no one has ever *thought* to write the simple SAVSTAMP-like tool to do this ** -- has always been mind-boggling to me. My theory is simply that they have 1) taken datestamping for granted, and 2) noticed that the DOS 'DIR' command just doesn't do it, ergo: a "c'est la vie" attitude --- and the idea just doesn't come to them. To those to whom I mention it the response is invariably, "Huh! That's a good idea. I guess no one just ever thought of doing it." Yeah. We, on the other hand, all come as fresh-faced brash innocents to this brave new datestamping world and are full of questions and excitement and quite impossible ideas, and are able to look at it -- and therefore program it -- in a new way. Soon those impossible ideas somehow become reality... Anyway, FDATE is superb. I've been using it for an hour or two with no glitches. The ability to specify all files created or accessed today is something that I have long yearned for. Adding to this its ability to specify a date, sorting by date.... the list is endless. It takes a bit of getting used to, but I can see how displaying the date field as "..." if it equals the current or specified date/time is going to be very handy. The help file is very nicely done as well. You are to be greatly commended for a superb piece of work, and those using DateStamper-type stamps on their system have a great deal to look forward to when the new DOSes come out. As always, thanks for your continuing contributions.