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Inflation is just another way to fleece the sheeple

Thinking about inflation without considering the cost of oil (and energy in general) is deeply flawed. Inflation via rising cost of oil is the main vehicle of lowering the standard of living in developed countries. So we have the key channel of inflation via rising energy costs.

Also that are suggestions that stock market (supported by your 401K investments) functions as a new channel where "excessive money supply" is consumed, creating a bubble.   So when you buy 401K investment in inflated stock market (and substantial part of 401K investors use cost averaging)  you essentially use "depreciated dollars"  not that dissimilar to buying food with depreciated marks in Weimar Germany. In a way stock market became real inflation outlet: saving of sheeple can be confiscated via a stock market crash like in 2001 and 2008.

At the same time labor became cheaper and cheaper. And this is a clear deflationary phenomenon. With the current rate of unemployment, it is employees who hold all the cards in the job market.  Which is what neoliberalism is about: decimation of power of organized labour.

Taking into account instability, greed  and recklessness of financial sector, which hold the society by the throat by controlling the government nothing can stop Fed from printing money under some legitimate or illegitimate pretexts to avoid repetition of 2008 with a new "fall" player instead of Lehman. My impression is that all this talk about tightening is just "open mouse operations" -- a smoke screen for competitive devaluation the Fed is engaged in. Japan is probably a very good model of the USA development decades ahead.

Oil prices increased despite recession and this alone suggests that inflation in a very fundamental sense is up, not down, because at the end of the day there are natural limits of energy efficiency and in some cases the current civilization of pretty close to them. And at end of day Fed is just a bunch of mostly clueless careerists leaded by a man who deliberately did not noticed housing bubble (aka Arsonist Ben) and who was able to fit Greenspan Fed (which suggest absolute absence of spine).

In a way real money printing is done by OPEC, Russia, and other oil producing countries. Fed is just a level of speculators on top of this with the US military machine as a supporting tool to ensure that oil is traded in dollars. All those talks about renewable energy are just talks, as share of renewables in total energy balance is pretty small and is expected to stay on the same level. So the current civilization does depends on fossil fuels and can get into deep troubles as soon as it runs out of them. That means that energy prices, especially oil prices reflect the real inflation that affects the society.  and high current oil prices depress economy to a stagflation status which is hidden by underreporting inflation to squeeze positive GDP growth out of economic data.  And this is a more fundamental problem then just "number racket": nobody understand if capitalism works with negative economic growth.  It is an economic system that requires positive growth.

Rise of EROI means that the current life style needs to be drastically downsized and that what we see in the USA outside top 1% (or probably top 20%). All those talk about stock market prices are pseudoscience or worse as at the end of the day it is just different private currencies with floating rate of exchange and their level means very little in the general situation for the civilization as we know it.

If you counting inflation then in "constant dollars" S&P500 was barely beating inflation from 1994 to 2013. The value of S&P should be multiplied by 0.62, to get the reading in 1993 dollars. That means that most of S&P500 gains are due to inflation:

Year

Inflation
%

Cost of $1 item in 1993 dollars Dollar value in 1993 dollars
1993 3 1 1
1994 2.6 1.026 0.974659
1995 2.8 1.054728 0.948112
1996 3 1.08637 0.920497
1997 2.3 1.111356 0.899801
1998 1.6 1.129138 0.885631
1999 2.2 1.153979 0.866567
2000 3.4 1.193214 0.838072
2001 2.8 1.226624 0.815245
2002 1.6 1.24625 0.802407
2003 2.3 1.274914 0.784367
2004 2.7 1.309337 0.763745
2005 3.4 1.353854 0.738632
2006 3.2 1.397178 0.715729
2007 2.8 1.436299 0.696234
2008 3.8 1.490878 0.670746
2009 -0.4 1.484914 0.673439
2010 1.6 1.508673 0.662834
2011 3.2 1.556951 0.642281
2012 2.1 1.589647 0.629071

Most professionals now think that the most probable scenario is "deflation and inflation; not deflation, then inflation": both inflation and deflation are now compartmentalized.

There are clear signs of inflation in financial assets (stocks, bonds) and food prices in 2013. In essence we can assume that there are two types inflation: asset price inflation (financial bubbles) and consumer price inflation. Some authors think that asset price inflation (financial bubbles)  is more deadly for economy. Professor Charles Kindleberger analyzed episodes of high asset price inflation and stable or declining wholesale and consumer prices indices in the US for 1927-1929, Japan 1985-89, and Sweden 1985-89 and noted that central banks typically fail to intervene to arrest asset price inflation, essentially for two reasons: central banks never undermine a stock market boom, and they are concerned only with consumer price inflation.

This is an important observation. Rising stock market (asset price inflation) is an indicator of unhealthy speculative economy. It is not a sign of a healthy economy as many people assume. Inflation just found new channels in the era of computer and electronic stock exchanges.

So the amazing rise of S&P500 to 1650 in May 2013 might be not connected to the recovery. It might well be a demonstration of asset price inflation. After all stocks can be considered to be private money of public corporations (like Fed they can print them or buy them back) and stock price -- an exchange rate of this currency to dollar. As such it is more of a harbinger of a new financial crisis, then sign of a recovery.  And this time the crisis can strike with double force as FED spend all their ammunition , and are pinned against the wall by their own policies of helicopter money. They can  do nothing as they understand that they are in zugzwang and any their action is destructive. 

Please note also the recent episode of "haircuts" (aka confiscation of assets) as a solution when central bank is paralyzed.  This might be another warning sign. A very interesting recent example was the situation with Cyprus, when EU refuse bail-out without haircut and a significant portion of deposits above $100K was simply confiscated. 

That means that inflation can limited to some sectors such as financial assets and commodities which are not reflected in a typical inflation indexes. In fact, during the the recent decade we have seen a high level of inflation of prices of commodities like oil, copper, etc. Along with the deflation of other assets, especially housing. FT Alphaville has called it “compartflation.”.  There is also a term Biflation (Wikipedia)

Biflation (sometimes mixflation) is a state of the economy where the processes of inflation and deflation occur simultaneously.[1] The term was first introduced by Dr. F. Osborne Brown, a Senior Financial Analyst for the Phoenix Investment Group.[2] During Biflation, there's a rise in the price of commodity/earnings-based assets (inflation) and a simultaneous fall in the price of debt-based assets (deflation).[3]

The price of all assets are based on the demand for them versus the volume of money in circulation to buy them.

With biflation on the one hand, the economy is fueled by an over-abundance of money injected into the economy by central banks. Since most essential commodity-based assets (food, energy, clothing) remain in high demand, the price for them rises due to the increased volume of money chasing them. The increasing costs to purchase these essential assets is the price-inflationary arm of Biflation.[4]

With biflation on the other hand, the economy is tempered by increasing unemployment and decreasing purchasing power. As a result, a greater amount of money is directed toward buying essential items and directed away from buying non-essential items. Debt-based assets (mega-houses, high-end automobiles and stocks) become less essential and increasingly fall into lower demand. As a result, the prices for them fall due to the decreased volume of money chasing them. The decreasing costs to purchase these non-essential assets is the price-deflationary arm of biflation.

What is different this time is that expectation for a resumed growth might never materialize due to "energy peak" unless some technological breakthrough happens. World bank estimate for 2013 for the USA  Prospects for the Global Economy - The global outlook in summary, 2011-2015 is 1.9% which is close to stagnation as accuracy of measuring of inflation is low (+/- 1%). But in any case this means slowdown from 2012 (2.2%).

Confiscation is another danger. The principal difference is that inflation can be anticipated to varying degrees. Expropriation of ordinary people's account holdings, something that hitherto only Nazis and Communists have indulged in, but now Cyprus banks were forced to do however, cannot.

Peak energy is the most important constrain for further economic growth: unlike money, barrels of oil can’t be printed out of thin air. Resources limitations tend to depress the standard of living for majority of population. Growth of inequality due to recent rise of power of financial elite exacerbate the trend. Price of many agricultural commodities strongly correlates with the price of oil. Huge debt overhang is another important factor. 

That means that 2006/08 Commodity Price Boom was essentially a huge spike of inflation (in which big banks and hedge funds played a distinct role of enablers) that went almost undetected or what is more probably, was suppressed.  The dog does not bark if you muzzle him.

I think that the problem of inflation is essentially a political problem. It is the issue of solvency of the ruling elite be it reckless nationalist of Zimbabwe or patchwork of independent states with nationalists in power but with interdependent economies like in case of dissolution of Soviet Union and Yugoslavia or the result of overborrowing and wasting/appropriation by the elite of foreign loans. Which are very quickly  transferred back to foreign banks. That latter is a classic neocolonialism "development" scenario.

One way any serious crisis of ruling elite reveal itself is via inflation (or, in other words, when the only option is running printing press at full speed no matter what the consequences are, because the ruling elite run out of other options). Only with complete loss of political control this inflation takes form of hyperinflation -- a collapse of currency. Without South/North split, the most plausible scenario is a gradual deterioration of US fiscal position but sudden collapse of currency looks pretty remote.

On the other hand as Jim Grant noted: “Deflation is a crisis of money and credit, a symptom of which is falling prices.” In a way extremes meet, so deflation can quickly turn into rampant inflation. And the first robin in such cases is rapid depreciation of currency ("crisis of confidence") and only then rapid change in the bonds rates. Huge deficits are like a ticking time bomb with a fuse of uncertain length. When the bomb is ready to go off, it’s too late to react.  But at the same time many of government financial obligations are now adjusted for inflation (TIPs are one such example) so you need probably need an actual collapse of governance to get such a result. The was the case of ex USSR republics in 1991-2000, and might happen in case of breakup of the USA.  At the same time the amount of dollars in circulation in the world is huge and dollar remain the key currency in which oil is prices. That creates inertia

That means that the monetary policy cannot be studied, or understood, in isolation from the overall policies of the state, especially engagements in costly adventures like optional wars (read Iraq and Afghanistan). Countries engaged in wars are generally more susceptible to the bouts of inflation. Empires especially are prone to overextending themselves and succumbing to inflation.

Talks about Central banks independence make slight sense only during good times, but should not overshadow the real picture: any Central Bank is an agent of state, the agent of the ruling elite.  In tough times all correlations became one. And Central Bank behaves as a puppet of central government it always was. That's why most states monopolizes the supply of money within its own territory.

Monetary, fiscal, military, political, and economic issues are all intertwined. Military adventures is probably the most common source of inflation as an informal coalition of groups with vested interests in the continuous development and maintenance of weaponry constitute the important part of elite and that naturally leads to attempts to use its power for pursuing the state interests outside of its borders (war is a continuation of policy with other means). The U.S. military-industrial complex on an annual basis accounts for 47% of the world's total arms expenditures. The Military budget of the United States for the 2009 fiscal year was more then half-trillion dollars. BTW in the draft of his famous farewell address to the nation, Eisenhower initially used the term military-industrial-congressional complex, which indicates the essential role that the United States Congress plays in supporting and expanding the military-related industries.

While a war usually lead to inflation, the victory against major adversary can lead to disinflation. For example, low inflation (and great stock market run) of 1991-2000 was at least partially connected with the defeat of the USSR and subsequent looting of xUSSR states as well as extending dollar hegemony to this area; this was once in a century event which added almost a billion consumers and allow western corporation (financed mainly by US banks) to buy assets for pennies on a dollar. Dollarization of huge region allowed Greenspan's Fed to pursue extremely loose monetary policy. Approximately in 2000 situation changed and reckless policy of the Fed led to the collapse of housing bubble which was consciously inflated since 2000 as there was no other alternatives to growth. The subsequent financial crisis in some ways was similar with the situation in which Great Britain has found itself after the WWII when its empire collapsed. It cost the USA political influence as neoliberalism, the ideology that defeated communism, was discredited.  The latter cost the USA a part of its global influence; also penetration on foreign market by US banks and global corporation became more difficult and probe with more risks as recent Prism scandal suggests. Google, Yahoo, Microsoft and other leading US tech companies got under negative light in foreign markets including such important markets as China and BRICS.

In some way we can view the current crisis not as a new event, but as a resumption of an old crisis which started in late 80th just after the long holidays caused by collapse of the USSR.

Within the state monetary policy always serves the needs of the ruling elite. That's the primary, albeit unstated, goal of Fed monetary policy. The real goal of Fed policy is first of all preservation of the power of Wall Street Banks and achieving positive nominal GDP growth no matter what the costs for the population. Similarly it is the primary goal of both state diplomacy and partially state military operations ("war is a racket"). If it also happens to enhance the standard of living of ordinary people (sheeple) that's just a side effect. This idea can help understanding perspectives of increase of inflation in the USA: they are connected with severe deterioration of the USA global position.

On the other hand  the current debt crisis is the crisis of ruling elite which is disproportionally represented by FIRE sector This factor and excessive greed of this part of the elite is a destabilizing factor which might lead to high inflation in the future. But again, for hyperinflation a crisis of ruling elite is not enough (especially if the current is a global currency), high inflation in xUSSR space after the dissolution was connected with the collapse of ruling elite.

The advice that the Emperor Septimius Severus gave to his two sons distills the typical way of conducting monetary policy: "live in harmony; enrich the troops; ignore everyone else." You just need to change "troops" to "haves and have more" (which, of course, includes military establishment and bankers) to make this quote very similar to one that was once uttered by world the most famous dyslectic, George Bush II.

This is how monetary policy is conducted if we discard all the hypocrisy. See an interesting historical exposition of this approach applied to Roman empire in Inflation and the Fall of the Roman Empire - Joseph R. Peden - Mises Institute

While the level of inflation is the result of demands of state (wars are usually inflationary events), inflation like GDP is an aggregate metric which often camouflages several, often opposite trends. Like GDP contains a lot of harmful for the society economic activity (junk GDP), inflation also can contain some positive and some negative components (food inflation vs. stocks and financial assets inflation aka Bernanke bubble).

Moreover inflation in one sector usually co-exists with deflation in some other sector. For example in 2008 in the USA we saw coexistence of two opposite trends:

In the inflation/deflation debate, I think what most people mean under the term "inflation" is their own metric related to "personal cost of living". As such it depends on income and "propensity to consume". Unemployed do not consume much if at all big ticket items and for them rising priced for those items (for example new cars) are irrelevant. Based on Japanese experience, we may well see deflation in big ticket and discretionary items (housing, autos, boats etc..) with modest inflation in daily expenses (food, public transportation, etc) and, especially, energy (although recent peak oil prices stimulated development of new fields which previously were uneconomical to develop and as such new capacity will eventually come to the market and temporary depress prices). 

In a long run inflation is correlated with the cost of energy and from this point of view the current economic troubles for the USA started when energy costs started to rise (approximately in 1998). With oil above $100 per barrel, many components of the infrastructure of modern world are unprofitable to operate. For example the cost of transportation of goods from China became the limited factor in outsourcing of production of "heavy, low cost" goods and, for example, makes manufacturing of furniture in China significantly less attractive.  That partially can be compensated by lowing the speed of the container ships to conserve oil but this path has obvious limitations.

In any case, when discussing inflation you cannot put the fiat currency cart before the energy horse. You cannot print oil which is the new gold ("black gold") of modern world. Oil is the real anchor of fiat currencies and in this sense it is not the USA but Arab states who are the issuers of world reserve currency.

Predicting inflation, especially short term, is notoriously difficult. Dollar may be a currency under pressure but it can strengthen not weaken, if US economy proved to be less bad that other major economies. Still one long trend -- growing price of gasoline -- is unmistakable due to depletion of oil reserves. As price of gas should be factored in all modern activities the future belongs to inflation not deflation. Note that the price of oil in late 2009 was hovering around $70 despite tremendous drop of economic activity, almost collapse of some energy intensive areas of economy like construction and car manufacturing. 

Still nobody knows what will happen in the USA the next year or the next decade, so all the posts reproduced below are a mere speculation. But one thing is certain: inflation in the USA by-and-large depends on the world outside the USA and that ties hands of Bernanke Fed (running printing presses too fast can produce a "run from the dollar", which now the USA can't stop militarily as it did in Iraq). There is also intricate dance between the dollar vs. euro as Europe is also in crisis and euro is the only other major currency. The same is true for yen and Japan. For dollar to strengthen, the economic situation in the USA should not be good, it just should be marginally better then in countries of Eurozone.

There are a lot of junk thinking and posting about inflation, generated by so called economists (with the neoclassical economists being as close to agents of financial oligarchy as one can get) so beware the disinformation in so called research papers and posts. Including this one. Here are some ideas distilled from the posts below which look to me, as a programmer, more plausible then others:

The author is not a specialist and just try to chart the plausible path as a regular 401K investor (quotes if not specifically acknowledged are taken from Where Are We Now Five Point Summary « The Baseline Scenario)

In the list below items in black are deflationary and items in red are inflationary:

"More broadly, there is sophisticated window dressing in the pipeline but no real reform on any issue central to (a) how the banking system operates, or (b) more broadly, how hubris in finance led us into this crisis. The financial sector lobbies appear stronger than ever. The administration ducked the early fights that set the tone (credit cards, bankruptcy, even cap and trade); it’s hard to see them making much progress on anything – with the possible exception of healthcare."

... ... ...

"The more radical change in the system is needed and that the administration so far is “window dressing.” For the past thirty years the economy has overcompensated at the top and undercompensated at the middle and working levels of society. The current crisis was largely created by this pattern and will not resolve until the wealth created flows more evenly throughout society."

Still I would agree with the idea that holding regular Treasury bonds is now extremely risky as there are limits on buying of government debt and we might be close to this limit. Along with FED actions, yields were pushed lower by "flight to quality" (or more correctly by looting emerging economies by repatriation of speculative capital ;-). This process is closer to the end then to beginning and there are inflows of capital back into emerging countries.

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[Jul 29, 2021] What Happens to Stocks and Cryptocurrencies When the Fed Stops Raining Money

Inflation also might be coming via the devaluation of the dollar.
Notable quotes:
"... These articles are great at d ..."
"... There are no safe options. TIPS are indexed to the CPI. The CPI is "adjusted" by weighting, substitution, and hedonics to preserve the mirage of low inflation. We are being forced to either speculate in the market or watch our savings get swallowed by inflation. ..."
May 08, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org
Zeb Long
These articles are great at describing the problem, but not so great at suggesting what investors ought to do to protect themselves.

TIPS are sometimes suggested, but if the govt is manipulating the reporting of inflation then TIPS aren't going to be much help. Gold and blue chip stocks... "diversify"? how about some articles that will explore strategies.

J James Robertson
There are no safe options. TIPS are indexed to the CPI. The CPI is "adjusted" by weighting, substitution, and hedonics to preserve the mirage of low inflation. We are being forced to either speculate in the market or watch our savings get swallowed by inflation.

[Jul 24, 2021] Higher Inflation Is Here to Stay for Years, Economists Forecast by Gwynn Guilford and Anthony DeBarros

Jul 11, 2021 | www.wsj.com

Strong economic rebound and lingering pandemic disruptions fuel inflation forecasts above 2% through 2023, survey finds. The U.S. inflation rate reached a 13-year high recently, triggering a debate about whether the country is entering an inflationary period similar to the 1970s. WSJ's Jon Hilsenrath looks at what consumers can expect next.

Americans should brace themselves for several years of higher inflation than they've seen in decades, according to economists who expect the robust post-pandemic economic recovery to fuel brisk price increases for a while.

Economists surveyed this month by The Wall Street Journal raised their forecasts of how high inflation would go and for how long, compared with their previous expectations in April.

The respondents on average now expect a widely followed measure of inflation, which excludes volatile food and energy components, to be up 3.2% in the fourth quarter of 2021 from a year before. They forecast the annual rise to recede to slightly less than 2.3% a year in 2022 and 2023.

That would mean an average annual increase of 2.58% from 2021 through 2023, putting inflation at levels last seen in 1993.

"We're in a transitional phase right now," said Joel Naroff, chief economist at Naroff Economics LLC. "We are transitioning to a higher period of inflation and interest rates than we've had over the last 20 years."

[Jul 24, 2021] U.S. inflation is still climbing and now higher labor costs are adding to the pressure

Cost of energy is climbing and that will increase the level of inflation.
The position of dollar is weakening too and that might contribution to inflation pressures.
Jul 24, 2021 | www.msn.com

The yearly rate of inflation leaped to a 13-year high of 3.6% in April, using the Fed's preferred PCE price gauge. By another measure inflation hit a 28-year peak .

Inflation likely rose sharply again in May. Economists polled by Dow Jones and The Wall Street Journal predict the consumer price index rose 0.5% last month. The report comes out on Thursday. If so, that would push the yearly rate close to 5% from 4.2% in April.

Consumer prices have only risen that fast twice in the past 30 years, most recently in 2008 when the cost of a barrel of oil topped $150.

... ... ...

The central bank has stuck to its prediction that inflation will drop back toward 2% by next year. But many are beginning to wonder.

"The writing is on the wall: The Fed's temporary-inflation mantra is sounding more dated by the week," said senior economist Sal Guatieri of BMO Capital Markets.

[Jul 20, 2021] Higher Inflation Is Here to Stay for Years, Economists Forecast by Gwynn Guilford and Anthony DeBarros

Jul 11, 2021 | www.wsj.com

Strong economic rebound and lingering pandemic disruptions fuel inflation forecasts above 2% through 2023, survey finds. The U.S. inflation rate reached a 13-year high recently, triggering a debate about whether the country is entering an inflationary period similar to the 1970s. WSJ's Jon Hilsenrath looks at what consumers can expect next.

Americans should brace themselves for several years of higher inflation than they've seen in decades, according to economists who expect the robust post-pandemic economic recovery to fuel brisk price increases for a while.

Economists surveyed this month by The Wall Street Journal raised their forecasts of how high inflation would go and for how long, compared with their previous expectations in April.

The respondents on average now expect a widely followed measure of inflation, which excludes volatile food and energy components, to be up 3.2% in the fourth quarter of 2021 from a year before. They forecast the annual rise to recede to slightly less than 2.3% a year in 2022 and 2023.

That would mean an average annual increase of 2.58% from 2021 through 2023, putting inflation at levels last seen in 1993.

"We're in a transitional phase right now," said Joel Naroff, chief economist at Naroff Economics LLC. "We are transitioning to a higher period of inflation and interest rates than we've had over the last 20 years."

[Jul 14, 2021] Cryptos are a collectors item just like fine art.

Jul 13, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

jsanprox , Jul 12 2021 1:59 utc | 103

Cryptos are a collectors item just like fine art. While money has value based on the military jack boot of empire which insures its value only with its domination of most countries and the violent destruction of any attempt to set up a transparent real money system exchangable for gold (Libya). A painting by a hot painter is worth 900k because there are a handful of people who will pay that for it, they're interest in it keeps the value at a certain level. Same with Bitcoin, but that interest is spread out to millions of people. If they all decide its worthless than it is, but why would they? I think a lot of these evidence free claims of hacking and ransom wear are made to devalue the currency that the ransom is paid in, it could have easily been paid in dollars via the internet, as cryptos is basiclly just that: a stand in for the dollar being moved to an account that is a number. Cryptos in this way provide a window to real capitalism. This to me is natural human evolution toward anarchism and a system of exchange that is transparent and based on people working together instead of militaristic violence. You can exchange cryptos for gold, rubles and yaun, so saying that it exist only based on the dollars supremacy is wrong.


Hoarsewhisperer , Jul 12 2021 3:36 utc | 104

What I know about computers and Bitcoin would get lost in a thimble. However, what I've learnt about the US Govt over the years tells me that this problem wouldn't be happening if the USG hadn't dedicated itself to micro-managing, and dominating the www - for Top Secret (i.e. bullshit) reasons.

I was appalled when I learnt that the USG had made strong encryption ILLEGAL, and dumbfounded when I first heard about the PRISM 'co-operative' USG-mandated www surveillance program. Edward Snowden's NSA revellations confirmed that the USG has KILLED computer security for crappy, feeble-minded reasons.

It's more or less par for the course that the USG blames other entities for its own prying and mischief-making. Were it not for the USG placing LOW limits on computer security, we would all have access to Pretty Good Privacy and pro-active, timely means of detecting and defending and/or evading malware.

Stonebird , Jul 12 2021 8:31 utc | 107

Jörgen Hassler | Jul 12 2021 5:32 utc | 105

"They mostly never see the piece, it's kept in climate controlled storage."

This is standard practice. Using "Ports Franches" as in several Swiss towns including Geneva. Perfectly legal as they are not IN the country (for Tax purposes).

However, this is not really for "drug" cartels but just a way of transferring assets from one rich person to another. Many ownership deals are made inside the Port Franche itself, without the need to transport the work outside. There is a limitation on the time a work can be left inside the building, but I believe all that they have to do is drive more or less "round the block" and re-enter it. I'm a bit hazy about that detail, as I do not have a spare Rembrandt to verify this personally.

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jsanprox | Jul 12 2021 1:59 utc | 103

A painting by a hot painter is worth 900k because there are a handful of people who will pay that for it, they're interest in it keeps the value at a certain level.

The primary dealers agree on a common price level for a stated painter. These paintings can even be used as collateral when borrowing money.
Other painters do not have a "guaranteed" price level but one based on auction values (ie. What the customer is willing to pay.)
The Primary dealers are a very small group who control all the big art fairs and which other dealers are allowed to sell or deal there -.
There are "rules" about "participation" (not sure about the terminology here), that various dealers will have made between themseves. ie. There is a split-up of profits following certain agreed parts. Woe unto a dealer that doesn't pay his part. (OK; personal note here, I once accidently fell foul of the "cartel" because a gallery owner with my works, had not paid "out" on a large sum that he had made on another artist he was representing. They decided to "get" him.)

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Ransomware ; Why are people getting all hot and bothered about Corporations paying money in Bitcoin? Happens all the time.

Another Personal anecdote ; About five years ago I started recieving emails from unknown "people", Real first names, with an attachement. As normal, these go into trash without being opened (or into a folder I have, called "dodgy spam?) About 20 + of them. Next I recieved one email saying (in French) " I know your little secret, and if you don't want everyone else to know, pay (about €30) a "Small" sum into the following bitcoin account xxxxx."

In France you can " porter plainte" , ie, denounce and start a legal process against an "unknown person, or persons". This is to protect yourself, and is run by the Government/police. In my case, never having opened any of the "attachments", I don't know what they were, probably porn of some sort. IF they had been opened there would have been a suspicion that I was a "willling" victim. (The first question asked by the Gov. Site was "Have you paid them/it, and by how much". in my case - none)

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Haven't heard anything since. BUT, Bitcoin was already being used for criminal purposes.

Nobody had to find a super-secret backdoor into my computer. Just buy a data base with working emails - Corporations use them all the time to send publicity. By looking at the address, and other more or less freely available information, they can target people, by location, age, etc.


vk , Jul 12 2021 15:47 utc | 113

@ Posted by: jsanprox | Jul 12 2021 1:59 utc | 103

But you only know a Picasso is worth a lot because you can calculate it in USD terms (ultimately: you can also calculate in any other fiat currency, but, since we live in the USD Standard, we only know a certain amount of fiat currency is worth if we can convert it to USDs). The USD is still the unit of accountancy and the means of payment even in the art market.

You can never pay your taxes or fill the tank of your car with a Picasso - you would have to sell it for USDs, and use these USDs to pay for everything you need. Sure, two megarich persons could exchange art between them as some kind of permute, but that doesn't constitute a societal unity (because billionares don't exist in a vacuum). It is a particularity of society, not society itself.

The same is true with crypto. And with gold. And with platinum. And with whatever else you want. It is a myth crypto is "fake" just because it is purely digital: the material specification of the thing doesn't matter for its status of money. Being digital is the lesser of crypto's problems. Crypto's main problem is the very economic foundations of its existence, which ensure it will never be money.

And no: subdividing crypto wouldn't solve it - they tried it with gold when capitalism lived through the Gold Standard (when it was on its death throes) and there's a limit to this. Even if the digital era allowed it, you would then simply have fiat money system with extra steps and double the brutality, because then the power to issue money would rest with few private individual hoarders of the crypto with no legal accountability and responsibility; it would be a dystopian "Pirates of the Caribbean" meets "Mad Max" scenario.

[Jul 08, 2021] Grocery Stores Are Masking Price Hikes Via Shrinkflation

Jul 08, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

The continued decline in Treasury yields has prompted many short-sighted arm-chair analysts to declare that the Fed was right about inflationary pressures being "transitory". Of course, as Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen herself admitted, a little inflation is necessary for the economy to function long term - because without "controlled inflation," how else will policymakers inflate away the enormous debts of the US and other governments.

As policymakers prepare to explain to the investing public why inflation is a "good thing", a report published this week by left-leaning NPR highlighted a phenomenon that is manifesting in grocery stores and other retailers across the US: economists including Pippa Malmgren call it "shrinkflation". It happens when companies reduce the size or quantity of their products while charging the same price, or even more money.

As NPR points out, the preponderance of "shrinkflation" creates a problem for academics and purveyors of classical economic theory. "If consumers were the rational creatures depicted in classic economic theory, they would notice shrinkflation. They would keep their eyes on the price per Cocoa Puff and not fall for gimmicks in how companies package those Cocoa Puffs."

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However, research by behavioral economists has found that consumers are "much more gullible than classic theory predicts. They are more sensitive to changes in price than to changes in quantity." It's one of many well-documented ways that human reasoning differs from strict rationality (for a more comprehensive review of the limitations of human reasoning in the loosely defined world of behavioral economics, read Daniel Kahneman's "Thinking Fast and Slow").

Just a few months ago, we described shrinkflation as "the oldest trick in the retailer's book" with an explanation of how Costco was masking a 14% price hike by instead reducing the sheet count in its rolls of paper towels and toilet paper.

NPR's report started with the story of Edgar Dworsky, who monitors grocery store shelves for signs of "shrinkflation".

A couple of weeks ago, Edgar Dworsky walked into a Stop & Shop grocery store in Somerville, Mass., like a detective entering a murder scene.

He stepped into the cereal aisle, where he hoped to find the smoking gun. He scanned the shelves. Oh no, he thought. He was too late. The store had already replaced old General Mills cereal boxes -- such as Cheerios and Cocoa Puffs -- with newer ones. It was as though the suspect's fingerprints had been wiped clean.

Then Dworsky headed toward the back of the store. Sure enough, old boxes of Cocoa Puffs and Apple Cinnamon Cheerios were stacked at the end of one of the aisles. He grabbed an old box of Cocoa Puffs and put it side by side with the new one. Aha! The tip he had received was right on the money. General Mills had downsized the contents of its "family size" boxes from 19.3 ounces to 18.1 ounces.

Dworsky went to the checkout aisle, and both boxes -- gasp! -- were the same price. It was an open-and-shut case: General Mills is yet another perpetrator of "shrinkflation."

It's also being used for paper products, candy bars and other packaged goods.

Back in the day, Dworsky says, he remembers buying bigger candy bars and bigger rolls of toilet paper. The original Charmin roll of toilet paper, he says, had 650 sheets. Now you have to pay extra for "Mega Rolls" and "Super Mega Rolls" -- and even those have many fewer sheets than the original. To add insult to injury, Charmin recently shrank the size of their toilet sheets. Talk about a crappy deal.

Shrinkflation, or downsizing, is probably as old as mass consumerism. Over the years, Dworsky has documented the downsizing of everything from Doritos to baby shampoo to ranch dressing. "The downsizing tends to happen when manufacturers face some type of pricing pressure," he says. For example, if the price of gasoline or grain goes up.

The whole thing brings to mind a scene from the 2000s comedy classic "Zoolander".

[Jul 03, 2021] Larry Summers Sees 5% Inflation At The End Of 2021

Notable quotes:
"... This is not the first time Summers has predicted that the firehose of fiscal and monetary stimulus will unleash soaring inflation. While career economists at the White House and Fed - who have peasants doing their purchases for them - urge Americans to ignore the current hyperinflation episode, saying that the recent inflation surge will soon pass, Summers has been unique among his fellow Democrats in predicting that massive monetary and fiscal stimulus alongside the reopening of the economy would spark considerable price pressures. ..."
"... Asked how financial markets may behave in the rest of 2021, Summers said "there will probably be more turbulence" as traders react to faster inflation by pushing up bond yields. "We've got a lot of processing ahead of us in markets," he said. ..."
Jul 03, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

It may not be quite hyperinflation - loosely defined as pricing rising at a double-digit clip or higher - but if former Treasury Secretary and erstwhile democrat Larry Summers is right, it will be halfway there in about six months.

One day after Bank of America warned that the coming "hyperinflation" will last at least 2 and as much as 4 years - whether or not one defines that as transitory depends on whether one has a Federal Reserve charge card to fund all purchases in the next 4 years - Larry Summers, who is this close from being excommunicated from the Democrat party, predicted inflation will be running "pretty close" to 5% at the end of this year and that bond yields will rise as a result over the rest of 2021.

Considering that consumer prices already jumped 5% in May from the previous year, his forecast is not much of a shock.

Speaking on Bloomberg TV, Summers said that "my guess is that at the end of the year inflation will, for this year, come out pretty close to 5%," adding that "it would surprise me if we had 5% inflation with no effect on inflation expectations." If he is right, the recent reversal in one-year inflation expectations which dipped from 4.6% to 4.2% according to the latest UMich consumer sentiment survey, is about to surge to new secular highs.

This is not the first time Summers has predicted that the firehose of fiscal and monetary stimulus will unleash soaring inflation. While career economists at the White House and Fed - who have peasants doing their purchases for them - urge Americans to ignore the current hyperinflation episode, saying that the recent inflation surge will soon pass, Summers has been unique among his fellow Democrats in predicting that massive monetary and fiscal stimulus alongside the reopening of the economy would spark considerable price pressures.

Asked how financial markets may behave in the rest of 2021, Summers said "there will probably be more turbulence" as traders react to faster inflation by pushing up bond yields. "We've got a lot of processing ahead of us in markets," he said.

Ironically, Summers - who now teaches at Harvard University whose president he was not too long ago when he hung out with his buddy Jeffrey Epstein...


Plus Size Model 5 hours ago (Edited)

Exactly!! Not only that, it's not just the FED that is contributing to inflation. We can also blame the SEC and the DOJ. I've never seen a Zero Hedge article blaming stock price appreciation or buybacks for causing inflation or increasing the money supply. The DOJ never enforces antitrust laws. The FBI never investigates money laundering from overseas that creates artificial real estate appreciation that inflates the money supply when people take out HELOC. There are other oversight bodies that, in a sane world, would not allow foreign investment in real estate. Bitcoin and others are a new tool that is being used to manipulate the money supply. It's comical how coins always go down when the little guys are holding the bag and go up when Coinbase executives want to cash out.

Another thing, this artificial chip shortage, punitive tariffs, and new tax laws are also adding to price increases.

Totally_Disillusioned 1 hour ago

Speculative investments have NEVER been included in the forumulation of CPI that determines inflation rate.

Revolution_starts_now 6 hours ago

Larry Summers is a tool.

gregga777 5 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Banksters in 2010's: We've got to revise how we calculate inflation again to conceal it from the Rubes.

Banksters in 2020: Ho Lee Fuk! Gun the QE engine! Pedal to the metal! Monetize all of the Federal government's debt! Keep those stonks zooming upwards!

Banksters in 2021: Ho Lee Fuk! The Rubes have caught onto our game! Gun the QE engine! Keep that pedal to the metal! Maybe the Rubes won't notice housing prices going up 20% per year?

Summer 2021: Ho Lee Fuk! They are noticing Inflation! We'd better revise how we calculate inflation again to conceal it from the Rubes.

[Jun 26, 2021] Paul Tudor Jones Says Inflation risk isn't transitory and that Economic Orthodoxy Has Turned Upside Down

Jun 14, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

Paul Tudor Jones said economic orthodoxy has been turned upside down with the Federal Reserve focused on unemployment even as inflation and financial stability are growing concerns.

Inflation risk isn't transitory, the hedge fund manager said in an interview on CNBC.

If the Fed says the U.S. economy is on the right path, "then I would go all in on the inflation trade, buy commodities, crypto and gold," he said. "If they course correct, you will get a taper tantrum and a sell off in fixed income and a correction in stocks.

[Jun 25, 2021] U.S. inflation likely to remain elevated for up to four years - BofA

Jun 25, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

BofA expects U.S. inflation to remain elevated for two to four years, against a rising perception of it being transitory, and said that only a financial market crash would prevent central banks from tightening policy in the next six months.

It was "fascinating so many deem inflation as transitory when stimulus, economic growth, asset/commodity/housing inflations (are) deemed permanent", the investment bank's top strategist Michael Hartnett said in a note on Friday.

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LONDON (Reuters) - BofA expects U.S. inflation to remain elevated for two to four years, against a rising perception of it being transitory, and said that only a financial market crash would prevent central banks from tightening policy in the next six months.

It was "fascinating so many deem inflation as transitory when stimulus, economic growth, asset/commodity/housing inflations (are) deemed permanent", the investment bank's top strategist Michael Hartnett said in a note on Friday.

Hartnett thinks inflation will remain in the 2%-4% range over the next 2-4 years. U.S. inflation has averaged 3% in the past 100 years, 2% in the 2010s, and 1% in 2020, but it has been annualising at 8% so far in 2021, Bofa said in the note.

Global stocks were holding near record highs hours ahead of the reading of May core personal consumption expenditures index, an inflation gauge tracked closely by the Fed. The gauge is estimated to rise 3.4% year-on-year.

... In the week to Wednesday, investors pumped $7 billion into equities and $9.9 billion into bond funds, while pulling $53.5 billion from cash funds, BofA calculated, using EPFR data.

[Jun 18, 2021] You Can't Create Permanent Inflation From Artificial Growth

Inflation for common people level means devaluation of the dollar. It can happen for reasons completely detached from money supply issues. For example shortage of commodities (especially oil) or diminishing of the world reserve currency status of the dollar (refusal of some countries to hold their currency reserves in dollars and switch to other currencies in mutual trade). Increase of military expenses (Pentagon budget is over trillion dollars now) also does not help (guns instead of butter policy)
Jun 18, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

The reason that rates are discounting the current "economic growth" story is that artificial stimulus does not create sustainable organic economic activity.

"This is because bubble activities cannot stand on their own feet; they require support from increases in money supply that divert to them real savings from wealth generators. Also, note again that a major cause behind the possible decline in the pool of real savings is unprecedented increases in money supply and massive government spending. While the pool of real savings is still growing, the massive money supply increase is likely to be followed by an upward trend in the growth rate of the prices of goods and services. This could start early next year. Once the pool of real savings starts to decline, however -- because of massive monetary pumping and reckless fiscal policies -- various bubble activities are will plunge. This, in turn, is likely to result in a large decline in economic activity and in the money supply." – Mises Institute

As stimulus fades from the system, that decline in money supply is only one of several reasons that "deflation" will resurface.

Monetary & Fiscal Policy Is Deflationary

The Federal Reserve and the Government have failed to grasp that monetary and fiscal policy is "deflationary" when "debt" is required to fund it.

How do we know this? Monetary velocity tells the story.

What is "monetary velocity?"

"The velocity of money is important for measuring the rate at which money in circulation is used for purchasing goods and services. Velocity is useful in gauging the health and vitality of the economy. High money velocity is usually associated with a healthy, expanding economy. Low money velocity is usually associated with recessions and contractions. " – Investopedia

With each monetary policy intervention, the velocity of money has slowed along with the breadth and strength of economic activity.

While in theory, "printing money" should lead to increased economic activity and inflation, such has not been the case.

A better way to look at this is through the " veil of money" theory.

If money is a commodity, more of it should lead to less purchasing power, resulting in inflation. However, this theory began to fail as Governments attempted to adjust interest rates rather than maintain a gold standard.

Crossing The Rubicon

As shown, beginning in 2000, the "money supply" as a percentage of GDP has exploded higher. The "surge" in economic activity is due to "reopening" from an artificial "shutdown." Therefore, the growth is only returning to the long-term downtrend. As shown by the attendant trendlines, increasing the money supply has not led to either more sustainable economic growth rates or inflation. It has been quite the opposite.

However, it isn't just the expansion of the Fed's balance sheet that undermines the strength of the economy. For instance, it is also the ongoing suppression of interest rates to try and stimulate economic activity. In 2000, the Fed "crossed the Rubicon," whereby lowering interest rates did not stimulate economic activity. Therefore, the continued increase in the "debt burden" detracted from it.

Similarly, we can illustrate the last point by comparing monetary velocity to the deficit.

As a result, monetary velocity increases when the deficit reverses to a surplus. Such allows revenues to move into productive investments rather than debt service.

The problem for the Fed is the misunderstanding of the derivation of organic economic inflation

6-More Reasons Deflation Is A Bigger Threat

Previously, Mish Shedlock discussed Dr. Lacy Hunt's views on inflation, or rather why deflation remains a more significant threat.

To summarize, the long-term risk to current outlooks remains the "3-Ds:"

Conclusion

With this in mind, the debt problem remains a massive risk. If rates rise, the negative impact on an indebted economy quickly depresses activity. More importantly, the decline in monetary velocity shows deflation is a persistent threat.

Treasury&Risk clearly explained the reasoning :

"It is hard to overstate the degree to which psychology drives an economy's shift to deflation. When the prevailing economic mood in a nation changes from optimism to pessimism, participants change. Creditors, debtors, investors, producers, and consumers all change their primary orientation from expansion to conservation.

These behaviors reduce the velocity of money, which puts downward pressure on prices. Money velocity has already been slowing for years, a classic warning sign that deflation is impending. Now, thanks to the virus-related lockdowns, money velocity has begun to collapse. As widespread pessimism takes hold, expect it to fall even further."

There are no real options for the Federal Reserve unless they are willing to allow the system to reset painfully.

Unfortunately, we now have a decade of experience of watching monetary experiments only succeed in creating a massive "wealth gap."

Most telling is the current economists' inability to realize the problem is trying to "cure a debt problem with more debt."

In conclusion, the Keynesian view that "more money in people's pockets" will drive up consumer spending, with a boost to GDP being the result, has been wrong. It hasn't happened in 40 years.

Unfortunately, deflation remains the most significant threat as permanent growth doesn't come from an artificial stimulus.


bikepath999 2 hours ago

Title is 100% wrong! It's artificial growth (money printing) that is the inflation! Organic growth thru increased production can actually lead to deflation!

OldNewB 2 hours ago

Exactly. Inflation can be the reduction in the rate of deflation due to productivity increases.

bikepath999 2 hours ago

Transitory is just the new little catch phrase to have you chasing after your own tail rather than skinning alive a central banker or politician

dead hobo 2 hours ago (Edited)

Transitory was Janet Yellen's favorite word for years. It was her catch phrase like Bernanke's was 'The benefits outweigh the costs'. Total blather in both cases.

In both cases, it was muppet-speak for 'p*ss off'. But it sounded oh so intelligent and the media lapped it up.

About the above article ... Economics, as commonly applied by sales folk, teachers, experts, and pundits is theology, not science. One credibility trick is to quote an expert who quoted another expert. Like above. How can you argue against this depth?

Misesmissesme 2 hours ago (Edited)

They are somewhat correct on the technical definition of inflation. However, hyper-inflation does not care about any of that. It only needs a government willing to print and a populace that has lost faith in the currency. We know the gov and the Fed are game. It's just a matter of time until the masses lose faith in the dollar.

OldNewB 2 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Devaluing the fiat by printing to infinity has nothing to do with growth.

Printing IS inflation. Where it shows up is another matter.

Whether it results in higher prices is a function of behavior between buyers and sellers of assets, products and services.

-- ALIEN -- 2 hours ago (Edited) remove link

International Energy Agency said GLOBAL PEAK OIL PRODUCTION for all liquids happened in 2018.

NO economic growth is possible without growing the energy supply, so 2% predicted growth is BS,

unless other countries contract by 2+%.

Quia Possum 2 hours ago

We're beyond the point of pulling the rip cord.

Some ZH writer had an excellent analogy to a hot air balloon on fire. Up to a height X, you can jump off safely. Up to a height Y you can jump off and survive with some broken bones, but you're going to have to muster some courage to do that. But once you pass that height you're dead whether you jump or stay in the balloon all the way.

[Jun 14, 2021] Economist David Rosenberg says the Bond Market might have inflation right

The price of energy is growing. and that means inflation is accelerating, but it will probably take the form of stagflation...
Stagflation is characterized by slow economic growth and relatively high unemployment -- or economic stagnation -- which is at the same time accompanied by rising prices (i.e. inflation). Stagflation can also be alternatively defined as a period of inflation combined with a decline in gross domestic product (GDP). See also Stagflation - Wikipedia
Stagflation led to the emergence of the Misery index . This index, which is the simple sum of the inflation rate and unemployment rate, served as a tool to show just how badly people were feeling when stagflation hit the economy.
Under neoclassic economic doctrine stagflation was long believed to be impossible. This pseudoscience demonstrated in the Phillips Curve portrayed macroeconomic policy as a trade-off between unemployment and inflation.
Jun 14, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

I commented above on direction. I believe the bond market has the direction in June correct (falling yields).

That said, the "real yield" is nearly -5% (CPI minus the 3-Month Treasury Yield). This fosters speculation in assets.

We are in the midst of the third big bubble in just over 20 years.

Extrapolating Conditions

It's usually a big mistake to extrapolate current conditions far into the future. And that includes now.

Sure, there are huge wage pressures and the price of some commodities, especially lumber, went through the roof.

But where to from here is what's important.

Despite Wage Increases, Real Hourly Pay Is Losing to Inflation

On June 11, I commented Despite Wage Increases, Real Hourly Pay Is Losing to Inflation

I also noted Huge Upward Wage Pressures for Both Skilled and Unskilled Labor

But Lacy Hunt is holding pat as well.

He pinged me in response to Explaining the Shortage of Skilled Workers and Why It Will Get Worse with these thoughts.

Mish,

Excellent analysis. I would add one point as a result of your conclusion. Older populations with declining birth rates and slower population, depress household, business and public investment. The contracting effect on investment is highly deflationary and overwhelms the impact of inflation due to the smaller labor force. This condition is plainly evident in Japan and Europe. Moreover, this pattern will be increasingly apparent in the US .

The Transitory Boat

The transitory boat is a small one. Powell and Yellen have to say that no matter what they believe.

Rosenberg, Hunt, and I are in the small boat.

And if you want another reason to be in that boat with us, then think about what happens when asset bubbles burst. It won't be inflationary, that's for sure.

Meanwhile, "I just say buy the gold," Rosenberg said. "Gold has 1/5 of the volatility that bitcoin has."

For more on gold and real interest rates, please see my June 11 post Real Interest Rates Suggest It's a Good Time to Buy and Hold Gold

[Jun 14, 2021] World War II Was Transitory- - Putting Inflation In Context

Jun 14, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Via Global Macro Monitor,

Let us preface our inflation note with one of our favorite quotes:

"World War II was transitory"

– GMM

Inflation has eroded my purchasing power in my transitory life. Bring back the $.35 Big Mac, which was only about 20% of the minimum wage. Now? About 40-50%... Enough to spark a revolution?

[Jun 12, 2021] Stockman Warns -Buckle Up!-, May's Soaring CPI Print Was No 'Transitory' Blip

All factors that Stokman sites does not exclude bond rate remaining withing this yea max-min band for the rest of the year. You never know how long Fed will continue to buy bonds to suppress the yield.
The last "dead chicken bounce" of 10 year bond caught many people unprepared and surprised.
Jun 12, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by David Stockman via Contra Corner blog,

The Fed's destructive money-pumping has many victims, but chief among these is the Wall Street financial narrative itself.

It emits not a whiff about the patent absurdity of the Fed's monthly purchase of $120 billion of treasury and GSE debt under current circumstances; and treats with complete respect and seriousness the juvenile word game known as "thinking about thinking about tapering" by which the clowns in the Eccles Building fearfully attempt to placate the liquidity-intoxicated speculators on Wall Street.

So it's not surprising that today's 5.0% CPI reading was made inoperative within minutes after the BLS release by a chorus of financial pundits gumming about "base effects" and ridiculing outliers like soaring used car prices (up 29.7% YoY), which, of course, Bloomberg reporters never see the inside of anyway.

Then again, that's why we look at the two-year stacked CAGRs, which smooth the ups and downs of the worst lockdown months last spring; and also why we use the 16% trimmed mean CPI, which eliminates the highest 8% and lowest 8% of items in the overall CPI each month (both sets of deleted outliers are different each month).

In the present instance, therefore, off-setting the used car prices in the highest 8% of items during May is the -5.0% YoY drop in health insurance costs (if you believe that BLS whopper) and the -5.3% drop in sporting event prices, which, of course, have been largely zero since last April.

In any event, the 16% trimmed mean CPI for May was up by 4.7% annualized versus the April number and was higher by 2.62% on YoY basis.

Still, the more salient point is that on a two-year stacked basis the plain old CPI -- used car prices and all -- leaves not a scintilla of doubt: Consumer inflation is accelerating and rapidly.

During the last eight months the growth rate for the two year stack has risen from 1.48% to 2.55% per annum. And we don't recall a word in May 2019 about that year's reading being particularly deflationary. It was actually up 1.83% from May 2018.

Per Annum CPI Increase, Two-Year Stack:

Still, according to the Fed apologists there's nothing troubling about the above because the Fed is now only trying to hit its 2.00% inflation target "averaged over time".

Let's see. Here are the CPI growth rates going back to May 2014. It turns out you have to average back seven years before you have a shortfall from the 2.00% target!

CPI Increase per Annum To May 2021 From:

You get the scam. These mendacious fools will just keep averaging back in time until the get a number that's a tad under 2.00%, smack their lips loudly and then pronounce the current inflation to be "transitory".

And they will also toss out any inflation index that undercuts their MOAAR inflation mantra -- like all of the data reported above!

So we will say it again : The CPI is a highly imperfect general price measure owing to its one-sided treatment of quality (hedonic) improvements, wherein some reported prices are adjusted downward for improved product features like airbags and more powerful PCs, put few prices are adjusted upward for the junkie toys, towels, kitchenware, appliances and furniture that comes out of China.

But with the 8% highest and 8% lowest prices dropped out monthly to filter out the short-run noise, the 16% trimmed mean version of the CPI at least purports to be a fixed basket price index, not a variable weight deflator like the Fed's beloved PCE deflator.

In short, the 16% trimmed mean CPI puts paid to the "transitory" scam. Come hell or high water, this serviceable inflation measure has been rising at 2.00% per annum since the year 2000, and even more than that during the 1990s.

Thus, during the 112 months since the Fed formally adopted inflation targeting in January 2012, it has risen by 2.03% per annum and by 2.15% per annum since January 2000.

Equally significantly, there have been only a handful of times during the 256 monthly readings since January 2000 when the year-over-year measure dropped materially below 2.00%.

YoY Change, 16% Trimmed Mean CPI, 2000-2021

For want of doubt, here is the Fed's preferred short-ruler -- -the core PCE (personal consumption expenditure deflator less food and energy). And the Fed's case for its insane money-pumping essentially boils down to the dueling information covered by the red bars above and the purple bars below.

As it happens, the one-year change in the core PCE deflator is 3.1% and the stacked two-year gain is 1.99% per annum. That latter is apparently not close enough to 2.00% for government work, meaning that the Fed needs to get more years into its average.

Even then, you have to be trained in the medieval theology of counting angels on the head of a pin to ascertain the purported earth-shaking "shortfall" from target. Compared to April 2021, here are the multi-year CAGRs on an April-to-April basis:

That's right. For the five year-pairs shown above, the average CAGR for the core PCE deflator was 1.90%. It seems that "lowflation" amounts to that which you need a magnifying glass to ascertain -- 10 basis points of shortfall.

Of course, our monetary bean counters are not done "averaging", either. If you go back to January 2012 when the Fed officially adopted inflation targeting, the core PCE deflator is up by 1.69% per annum, and since January 2000 it has risen by 1.75% per annum.

So there you have it. For want of 25-31 basis points of annual inflation -- -averaging back to the beginning of the current century -- you have a camarilla of central bankers giving deer in the headlights an altogether new meaning. That is to say, they are apparently not even thinking about thinking about tapering their massive bond-buying fraud owing to the barely detectable differences between purple and red bars of these dueling charts.

As we said a few days back, would that they had applied the 25th Amendment to the Federal Reserve Board.

These sick puppies are in urgent need of palliative care.

YoY Change In Core PCE Deflator, 2000-2021

They are also in need of a dose of realism, and on that score there are three figures in the May CPI report which tell you all you need to know. To wit, compared to May 2020, durable goods prices were up by 10.3%, nondurables were higher by 7.4% and services less energy gained 2.9%.

In fact, in the recent history of these three figures lays a stinging refutation of the entire "lowflation" scam promulgated by the Fed money printers and their acolytes and shills on Wall Street and in Washington, too.

On this matter, the Donald was right, even if by accident or for the wrong reasons. What we are referring to, of course, is the "Shina" factor.

Beijing's form of state-controlled printing press capitalism has systematically drivendown the cost of manufactured goods and especially durables by, in effect, draining the rice paddies of China's great interior and herding its latent industrial work force into spanking new factories which paid wages less than meager. And CapEx costs were rock bottom, too, owing to $50 trillion of central bank-fueled domestic debt and the greatest cheap capital-driven malinvestment spree in human history.

The result was an intense, multi-decade long deflation of manufactured goods as the high labor costs embodied in US and European manufacturers were steadily squeezed out of global prices levels as production shifted to China and its East Asian supply chain.

That impact is patently obvious in the composition of the CPI among the three components which were flashing warning lights in today's inflation report.

Composition of CPI By Major Components, 2000-2021

In the first place, the core of domestic inflation lies in the 58.8% weight of the CPI consisting of mainly domestically supplied services. The 2.9% YoY gain reported for May for CPI services less energy was essentially par for the course.

That is, during the last 21 years (since January 2000) this component (black line) has risen by 2.71% per annum, and since January 2012 it has gained a similar 2.63% per annum.

Needless to say, if there is any part of the inflation rate that the Fed can most powerfully impact, it is domestically supplied services like health care, education, housing, entertainment, travel and foods services. So where's the "lowflation" in that part of the CPI basket?

Alas, we don't have lowflation in services at all, but a stubborn 2.6%-3.0% upward price drift in domestic service components which account for nearly three-fifths of the household budget.

By contrast, the durable goods component (brown line) accounts for 11.1% of the CPI, and it's been an anchor to the windward for more than two decades. As of May 2021, prices were still 8% below their January 2000 level.

The truth is, the alleged lowflation on the top line CPI has been heavily attributable to the deflationary durable goods sector, but, alas, that era is apparently over. The Chinese rice paddies have been drained on a one-time basis and its labor force is now actually shrinking, while the Donald's ill-timed tariff barriers have forced production to move to higher cost venues, albeit not necessary the USA of A.

Either way, the anchor to the windward is largely gone , meaning that rising durable goods prices going forward will no-longer weigh as heavily on the CPI.

It should be further noted that during the past two-decades nondurable prices have also held-down the CPI top line -- again in large part owing to the "Shina" factor and downward pressures from cheap apparel, footwear, home furnishings and the like.

During the past 21 years, the nondurables component (yellow line) of the CPI rose by 1.99% per annum, which is as close as you please to the target, but was also on anchor on the overall CPI top-line ( purple line) which increased by 2.19% per annum.

Alas, during the period since January 2012, nondurables rose by just 0.63% per annum owing to flat-lining energy and commodity prices, thereby pulling the overall CPI down to 1.80% per annum, where it too fell awry of the Fed's sacred 2.00% target.

But here's the thing. A smattering of surging nondurable goods prices in the May 2021 report are a stark reminder that the times they are a changin'.

On a YoY basis, these components suggest that "lowflation" in durables may have passed its sell-by date and that the 7.4% YoY gain in nondurables overall may be lifting, not suppressing, the CPI top-line going forward.

YoY Change In Major Nondurables Components:

In sum, the chart above captures the one-time history of the Fed's phony "lowflation" narrative -- an aberrant condition that is now fading fast. Sooner or latter they will run out of excuses and back inflation reports to average down. And that, in turn, means tapering of the Fed's great bond-buying fraud -- the lynch pin of the greatest bond and stock bubble in recorded history.

Do we think that will trigger the greatest financial asset value collapse in modern times?

Why, yes, we do! play_arrow


wareco 4 hours ago remove link

Seriously? David Stockman? This guy has been perpetually wrong for the last 4 years, at least. In June, 2017, he was calling for the S&P to fall to 1600. Never happened. In October 2019, he loudly proclaimed that everyone should get out of the "casino". S&P up 40% since then. He has as much credibility as that self-promoter, Harry Dent, who has been calling for gold to drop to $700 since 2012.

Sound of the Suburbs 8 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Stage one – The markets are rising.

Look at all that wealth we are creating.

Stage two – It's a bubble.

That wealth is going to disappear.

Stage three – Oh cor blimey! I remember now, this is what happened last time

At the end of the 1920s, the US was a ponzi scheme of inflated asset prices.

The use of neoclassical economics, and the belief in free markets, made them think that inflated asset prices represented real wealth.

1929 – Wakey, wakey time

The use of neoclassical economics, and the belief in free markets, made them think that inflated asset prices represented real wealth, but it didn't.

It didn't then, and it doesn't now.

Putting a new wrapper around old economics did fool global elites.

You'd have to get up pretty early in the morning to catch me out.

E5 9 hours ago

Not going to happen.

No one is buying.

No one is raising salaries.

Inflation is a stalled plane.

Everyone is waiting.

Self fulfilling prophecy. Mainstreet is waiting on their inheritance from dead Boomers. The only thing that will save America. Money being spent and Cuban Missile Crisis not happening under Boomers.

[Jun 12, 2021] Headline CPI is expected to jump 4.7% year-over-year

May CPI is expected at 8:30 a.m. ET Thursday. It is unclear to me why the 10-year Treasury yield fell below the key 1.5% Wednesday. Was it short-covering? if so what triggered it? If predictions are true it might jump up on Jun 10, 2021 because you can't have Headline CPI 4.7% and the 10-year Treasury yield 1.5%. That's the theatre of absurd.
Rent, owners' equivalent rent and medical care services collectively are 50% of the core CPI basket.
Notable quotes:
"... Headline CPI is expected to jump 4.7% year-over-year, the highest rate since sky high energy prices spiked inflation readings in the fall of 2008. ..."
"... "I am worried about rent and owners' equivalent rent because it should go up. It had decelerated," she said. Shelter is more than 30% of CPI , and rent costs have bottomed in some cities, Swonk added. "The issue is it could have longer legs and keep overall inflation measures buoyed more than people expect." ..."
Jun 09, 2021 | www.msn.com

...The consensus forecast for the core consumer price index, which excludes food and energy, is 3.5% on a year-over-year basis, according to Dow Jones. That's the fastest annual pace in 28 years.

Economists expect both core and headline CPI rose by 0.5% in May. Headline CPI is expected to jump 4.7% year-over-year, the highest rate since sky high energy prices spiked inflation readings in the fall of 2008.

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"I am worried about rent and owners' equivalent rent because it should go up. It had decelerated," she said. Shelter is more than 30% of CPI , and rent costs have bottomed in some cities, Swonk added. "The issue is it could have longer legs and keep overall inflation measures buoyed more than people expect."

[Jun 10, 2021] U.S. 10-Year Treasury Yield Slips Below 1.5%

In view of rising energy prices what those "other factors" might be? Does it mean that the USA are still in secular stagnation started in 2008?
The unemployment rate fell to 5.8% in May from 6.1% the prior month. U6 is still over 10% -- the depression level. See Table A-15. Alternative measures of labor underutilization
Jun 10, 2021 | www.wsj.com

Analysts said other factors are driving lower yields, including a weaker dollar, which has lifted demand for Treasurys from foreign investors. Foreign investors tend to hold more Treasurys when the dollar declines and reduces the costs of protecting against swings in currencies.

[Jun 10, 2021] Inflation Remains Hot, but Treasury Yields Still Aren't Moving. Here's Why

Jun 10, 2021 | financialgazette.co.uk

That is a counterintuitive response , because rising inflation erodes the value of Treasuries' payouts. And the data did indicate stronger inflation: Excluding volatile food and energy costs, prices rose 0.7% in May. That was the second-highest monthly increase in consumer prices since the early 1980s, behind April's 0.8% rise. Compared with last year, when the global economy was mired in a pandemic-driven slowdown, headline consumer prices rose at a 5% pace . (Excluding food and energy, they rose 3.8%.)

The market's moves could be muted because investors are betting that central bankers are going to stick with their view that most of the strength in consumer prices will pass after a potentially bumpy reopening period and keep policy easy.

... ... ...

... Most Fed watchers expect the central bank to start discussing a reduction of its bond purchases this summer or early fall.

That doesn't mean Treasuries have much room to rally more from here.

The Fed's meeting next week may be the first test. If central-bank officials talk about starting to remove accommodation earlier than expected, that could send yields higher. In fact, strategists from TD Securities decided to take a bearish view on the 10-year note on Thursday, after yields fell below 1.5% earlier this week. They argued that continued economic momentum and stronger inflation could lead central-bank officials to take a more upbeat tone on the economy than investors expect at their meeting on June 15 and 16.

[Jun 09, 2021] No inflation fears here -- ARK's Wood says portfolio should triple in five years

Jun 09, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

Wood, who became the face of the outsized rally in technology stocks such as Zoom Video Communications Inc and electric vehicle maker Tesla Inc during the coronavirus pandemic last year, said that falling lumber and copper prices signal that the market is "beginning to see signs that the risks are overblown" from inflation.

...Wood, whose ARK Innovation ETF was the top-performing actively managed U.S. equity fund tracked by Morningstar last year, has seen her performance stagnate along with the slowdown in growth stocks. Her flagship fund is down nearly 28% from its early February high.

[Jun 07, 2021] How Inflation Eats Away at Your Retirement Income

A short-term period of slightly higher inflation wouldn't be memorable, but an extended run of inflation above 3% can be problematic. Social Security Is Your Best Inflation Hedge; you need to maximize it.
Social Security checks represent about a third of income for all retirees. Among elderly recipients, those checks represent half of their retirement income for married couples and 70% for singles.
A primary residence, if you own a house and it is fully paid off, also gave some minimal inflation protection.
Another factor is that once people actually get into retirement, , their spending generally decreases so much that they're spending less overall, even accounting for inflation.
Jun 07, 2021 | www.investopedia.com
​ While seniors can't directly affect the inflation rate, there are ways to minimize the shadow it casts over their retirement.

Reducing housing costs, for instance, is a step in the right direction. Trading in a larger home for a smaller one, even if the mortgage is paid off, reduces the monthly outflow for property taxes, utilities, homeowners insurance, and maintenance.

Another smart move is adding investments to your portfolio that are likely to increase in value as inflation rises.

A real estate investment trust (REIT) or energy sector stocks, for example, are better positioned to see their value grow in tandem with the inflation rate.

[Jun 07, 2021] Yes, inflation is rising but no individual equity sector, including the energy sector, offers significant protection against high and rising inflation

Jun 07, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

Yes, inflation is rising, and retirees must now consider repositioning not just their short-term safe-haven investments (we'll talk more about that in part two) but their entire portfolio as well (which we'll focus on here). Well that, conveniently enough, is the subject (and title) of a paper soon to be published in the Journal of Portfolio Management that was co-authored by Campbell Harvey, a professor at Duke University, and several of his colleagues affiliated with Man Group. What more, Harvey and his co-authors found that no individual equity sector, including the energy sector, offers significant protection against high and rising inflation.

... here's what Harvey and his co-authors discovered after researching eight periods of inflation dating back to 1925: Neither equities nor bonds performed well in real terms during the inflationary periods studied. Real being the nominal rate of return minus the rate of inflation.

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TIPS

"Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) are robust when inflation rises, giving them the benefit of generating similar real returns in inflationary and noninflationary regimes, both of which are positive," the authors wrote.

In fact, TIPS had a 2% annualized real return during the most recent five periods of inflation.

But what looks promising in a research paper might not work in reality given the current yield on TIPS (0.872% as of June 2, 2021). The low yield means that TIPS are a "really super expensive" inflation hedge going forward, said Harvey.

"It means that you're going to get a negative return in noninflationary periods," he said. "So yes, they provide the protection, but they're an expensive way to get that protection."

Commodities

"Traded commodities" have historically performed best during high and rising inflation. In fact, traded commodities have a "perfect track record" of generating positive real returns during the eight U.S. periods studied, averaging an annualized 14% real return.

Now investors might not be able to trade commodities in the same manner as institutional investors using futures, but they can invest in ETFs that invest in a broad basket of commodities, said Harvey.

Other assets

Residential real estate on average holds its value during inflationary times, though not nearly as well as commodities. Collectibles such as art (7%), wine (5%) and stamps (9%) have strong real returns during inflationary periods, as well.

And while some suggest adding bitcoin to a diversified portfolio as an inflation protection asset, caution is warranted given that bitcoin is untested with only eight years of quality data -- over a period that lacks a single inflationary period, the authors wrote. "It's not just untested," said Harvey. "It's too volatile."

Gold is also too volatile as a reliable hedge against inflation. Harvey noted, for instance, that the performance of gold since 1975 is largely driven by a single year, 1979, when gold dramatically appreciated in value. "And that makes the average look really good," he said.

Read: Gold- it's not just for crazies

Dynamic strategies

Harvey also said his number one dynamic strategy for inflationary times is changing the sector exposures in your portfolio. With this strategy, you would allocate a greater portion of your assets to sectors that have historically performed well during inflationary periods, such as medical equipment, and less if anything at all to sectors that have performed poorly during inflationary periods, such as consumer durables and retail. "You can naturally rebalance your portfolio to be a little more defensive," he said. "And that can be done by any investor."

Harvey and his co-authors also found active equity factors generally hold their own during inflation surges with "quality stocks" having a small positive real return and "value stocks" having a small negative return.

Dynamic strategies are "active" strategies that involve monthly rebalancing of portfolios, according to Harvey. In contrast, passive strategies require minimal or no rebalancing; for example, holding an S&P 500 index fund.

Active equity factor investing uses frequent rebalancing to take bets that deviate from the investment weights implied by a passive market portfolio. These bets seek to produce returns over and above the passive market portfolio, said Harvey.

In Harvey's study, quality is defined as a combination of profitability, growth and safety and value is defined with traditional metrics such as the book-to-price ratio.

Is now the time to reposition your portfolio?

According to Harvey, inflation surging from 2% to more than 5% is bad for stocks and bonds. We're not there yet; the current rate of inflation is 4.2%. But we are getting close to the "red zone" and now would be a good time to "rethink the posturing of your portfolio," Harvey said. "So even if it doesn't occur, it doesn't matter. If the risk is high enough, you take some actions, you're basically buying some insurance."

And being proactive is the key. "So, at least right now, it's better to have the discussion now than when it's too late; when we're already in the surge and the asset prices have already dropped," said Harvey.

Remember too that what you hedge is "unexpected" inflation, Harvey said. "What you really are concerned with is unexpected inflation or a surprise in inflation. We call it an economic shock."

But not a transitory shock. That won't have any effect on asset prices. "You need to consider long-term inflation," he said.

And that place to look for that is in the break-even inflation (BEI) rate reflected in TIPS and nominal Treasurys. The BEI is the weighted average of inflation expectations over the life of the bond. And changes in the BEI have the advantage of reflecting changes in long-term or permanent inflation expectations. Presently the BEI is 2.44%. "Anything that is a long-term measure of inflation is going to have the maximum reflection in the asset prices," he said.

As for the current inflationary environment, Harvey said it's a mix of transitory and not-so transitory elements. Lumber prices are up but likely not permanently. The rising prices of other goods and services, however, may not be transitory. "It's obviously difficult to dissect this," he said. "But it's really important for people that are running a portfolio draw that distinction."

[Jun 07, 2021] Will hot US inflation data unsettle markets-

Jun 05, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

FT reporters

US government bonds rallied on Friday following a weaker-than-expected reading on American job growth for the month of May. But a key report on consumer price inflation will provide a fresh test for investors. Consumer prices rose at its fastest pace in more a decade in the 12 months to April, but analysts project that it has picked up even more since then, raising fears that the economy is overheating. Economists surveyed by Bloomberg expect the year on year inflation rate to have jumped to 4.7 per cent in May in figures to be released by the Department of Labor on Thursday, compared with 4.2 per cent in April.

[Jun 07, 2021] Commodity Price Surges Add to Inflation Fears

Jun 07, 2021 | www.wsj.com

It looks like this surge is suitable, especially in energy... That spells troubles for the US economy which is based on cheap energy.

Higher prices for commodities are flowing through to more companies and consumers, making it harder for central bankers to ignore them

...The world hasn't seen such across-the-board commodity-price increases since the beginning of the global financial crisis, and before that, the 1970s. Lumber, iron ore and copper have hit records . Corn, soybeans and wheat have jumped to their highest levels in eight years . Oil recently reached a two-year high .

At current metal prices, Rio Tinto PLC, BHP Group Ltd. , Anglo American PLC and Glencore PLC could this year generate a combined $140 billion in earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization, according to Royal Bank of Canada. That compares with $44 billion in 2015, when metals prices were at or near lows.

However, in Russia, a commodity exporter, surging commodity prices also are driving up inflation. While Russia's international reserves hit $600.9 billion in May, the highest ever, its central bank increased its benchmark interest rate by 0.5 percentage point to 5% in April. It said it would consider further increases, citing "pro-inflationary risks generated by price movements in global commodity markets."

"We think that the inflation pressure in Russia is not transitory, not temporary," Russia's central-bank governor Elvira Nabiullina told CNBC in a recent interview.

...Nicolas Peter, chief financial officer of BMW AG , said in May that it expects an impact of 500 million euros, equivalent to about $608 million, from prices for raw materials. Increased steel prices have added about $515 to the cost of an average U.S. light vehicle, according to Calum MacRae, an auto analyst at GlobalData.

[Jun 07, 2021] When it comes to inflation, the Fed must consider inequality

Jun 07, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

Like most central banks, the US Federal Reserve has been forced to ask why more than a decade of ultra-loose monetary policy has had such lacklustre economic results.

The Fed's data are misleading because they assume the US is the middle-class nation it has ceased to be.

Until it uses data that reflect the nation as it is, the Fed will no more get America back to shared prosperity than someone using a map of New Amsterdam will find the pond in Central Park.

[Jun 07, 2021] Yellen says higher interest rates would be 'a plus' for policy makers

Only if they can control it... And that is not given.
Jun 07, 2021 | www.msn.com

Speaking with Bloomberg News following a G-7 finance ministers' meeting in London, Yellen said it's OK if President Joe Biden's $4 trillion spending plans trigger inflation and higher rates.

"If we ended up with a slightly higher interest-rate environment it would actually be a plus for society's point of view and the Fed's point of view," she told Bloomberg.

"We've been fighting inflation that's too low and interest rates that are too low now for a decade," she said. "We want them to go back to" a normal environment, "and if this helps a little bit to alleviate things then that's not a bad thing -- that's a good thing."

The Fed has said it won't start to scale back its $120 billion-a-month asset purchases until the economy had made "substantial further progress" toward the Fed's goals of full employment and stable long-run 2% inflation.

While indicators of inflation have been rising , bond yields have been subdued, leaving many experts skeptical that a "taper tantrum" in in the cards whenever the Fed starts paring back its purchases.

[Jun 06, 2021] Eurozone Inflation Above Target Sooner Than The ECB Expected

The USA is not immune. Energy price will drive inflation here too. So the decline of 10 years bond rate might a trap.
Jun 02, 2021 | www.wsj.com

The annual rate of inflation in the eurozone rose in May to hit the European Central Bank's target for the first time since late 2018, as energy prices surged in response to a strengthening recovery in the global economy.


[May 31, 2021] For the first four months of this year, the seasonally-adjusted consumer-price index is rising at an annualized rate of 6.2%. Without the seasonal adjustments, it is rising at 7.8%.

May 31, 2021 | www.wsj.com

"The consumer-price index rose at a remarkable 4.2%," says your editorial, "Powell Gets His Inflation Wish" (May 13). Remarkable, yes, but our current inflation problem is far worse than that 4.2%, which is bad enough. The real issue is what is happening in 2021. We need to realize that for the first four months of this year, the seasonally-adjusted consumer-price index is rising at an annual rate of 6.2%. Without the seasonal adjustments, it is rising at 7.8%. Meanwhile, house prices are inflating at 12%.

We are paying the inevitable price for the Federal Reserve's monetization of government debt and mortgages. As for whether this is "transitory," we may paraphrase J.M. Keynes: In the long run, everything is transitory. But now it is high time for the Fed to begin reducing its debt purchases, and to stop buying mortgages.

[May 31, 2021] How to Know When Inflation Is Here to Stay

Skill shortages, wage pressures and "hawseholes flash with cash" is is a pretty questionable consideration (mostly neoliberal mythology). It is typical for WSJ not to touch controversial topics connected with the deterioration of global neoliberal empire centered in Washington and rampant money printing by Fed, which increases the level of debt to Japanese's level. They also are buying bonds to keep rate under check which is kind of counterfeiting money.
So we should expect US stock market to emulate Japanese's stock market. Under neoliberalism there can be no wage pressures as war of labor was won by financial oligarchy which institutes neo-feudal regime of wage slavery. One of the key methods is import of foreign workers to undermine wages in the USA. And neoliberalism is a trap, creating "Welcome to the hotel California" situation.
Automation and robotization puts further pressure on workers in the USA, especially low skill jobs (in some restaurants waiters are replaced by robots). In many large grocery shots, Wall Mart, etc automatic cashiers machines now are common. That increase theft but saving on casheer job partially compensate for that. In back office cash and check counting is also automated using machines.
The key issue here might be the status of dollar as world reserve currency... That allows the USA to export inflation. If dollar dominance will be shaken inflation chickens will come to roost.
May 31, 2021 | www.wsj.com

Inflation is here already, and in the long run there is a lot of upward pressure on prices. But between now and then lies a big question for investors and the economy: Is the Federal Reserve right to think that the price rises we're seeing now are temporary and will abate by next year?

Some at the Fed are already having vague doubts, starting to talk about when to discuss removing some of their extraordinary stimulus even as they continue to push the idea that inflation is likely to fall back of its own accord.

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Inflation expectations can become self-fulfilling, and are watched closely by the Fed. One-year consumer inflation expectations reached 4.6% in May, according to the University of Michigan survey, the highest since the China commodity boom of 2011.


Jeffrey P

It is important to not underestimate market sentiment and expectations in such matters because sometimes in economics, the expectation can be strong enough to become a self-fulfilling prediction even when other indicators recede or normally wouldn't be a driver.
Jeffrey Whyatt
I wonder how COLAs in wages, pensions, social security, etc. will impact inflation when these kick in. Think most occur automatically on a given contractual date. Might add fuel to the fire.
BRANDON JAMES
Just look at the prices for all the things they exclude from the CPI and other indices of inflation.
stephen rollins
How do you tell when the Treasury Sec. and Fed Chair are lying about inflation? When you open your eyes in the morning and the Sun rises in the East.
RICHARD TANKSLEY
It seems wise not to overlook the upcoming problems that we might have with China which which have the potential to create even more inflation. Lots of tensions are still around and frankly we should seriously dent US imports from there over the Wuhan virus.
BRUCE MONTGOMERY
Economists are good at dissecting the past, but terrible at forecasting the future.
ROBERT BAILEY
They predicted 12 out of the last 3 recessions
stephen rollins
Yes, and non economists do even worse. Look at the Japanese stock market. About 37K in 1990, cratered, and still only at 28 today. Thats over 30 years, folks.
RODNEY EVERSON
Definition of a "Positive Carry Trade": Borrowing money at an interest rate and investing it at a higher rate to earn the difference.

Banks do this with deposits, for example, borrowing money from savers and investing it in higher-yielding loans.

Bond traders typically do it by purchasing longer maturities at, say, three percent and financing them in the repo market at a rate now close to zero.

The main risk to such a trade is that the higher-yielding investment loses value while holding it. The bank loan goes bad, or the long bond falls in value while holding it.

Today the Federal Reserve is running the largest positive carry trade in history, borrowing trillions of dollars from the banking system and paying them 1/10 of one percent on the loans while using the money to buy trillions of bonds and mortgages for its portfolio.

If they raise short rates today, the banks will want more than 1/10 of a percent while, simultaneously, bond prices will crater. Anyone see a conflict here?

RODNEY EVERSON
There seems to be universal agreement that inflation is underway today. The disagreement is three-part: 1) It will be transitory and we will return to low levels; 2) It will not be transitory and we are facing steadily rising prices for the foreseeable future; 3) Not only will it not be transitory, but it will begin to escalate rapidly with the Fed proving unable or even unwilling to control it, resulting in a hyperinflation.

The bond market is clearly betting on scenario #1, as is the Fed.

And yet the government is spending like the proverbial drunken sailor and the Fed has now abandoned the banking system's fractional reserve mechanism that Volcker employed to bring the 1970's inflation back under control. The result, to my mind, is that the U.S. Government's finances now closely approximate those of Venezuela and Zimbabwe in the recent past while the Fed has relinquished the tools that would ordinarily be used to yield a different result than those countries experienced.

C Cook
Economics and politics.

The story describes reality well. Economics is just fuzzy theory now, neither I nor 99% of America can sort it out. MMT... Print money forever and it doesn't matter?

Politics is clear. History has shown that new administrations lose the House at the first mid-term. If that happens next year, the entire woke/green/leftist agenda goes down in flames. Pelosi is back to being a pedestrian member of the House.

To avoid history, DNC will attempt to spend our grandchildren's future to buy every vote available. Free everything, all the time. No need to work, study, or even get out of bed before noon. Infrastructure is code for pay off Unions to get workers to vote, shake down companies who want construction contracts to donate to DNC.

Equity market is watching. Bond market is watching. Likely, they realize that the only reality is the massive damage to the US which will result from the DNC wanting to keep Nancy happy.

James Cornelio
Unexplored in this article is the issue of what CAN the Fed do if there is unacceptable inflationary pressures. To think that it could reduce its $100+ billion monthly purchases in debt let alone raise interest rates by any serious amount is to forget that we are a nation awash in debt and that any move by the Fed to do either would result in a 'taper tantrum' the likes of which will cause all previous tantrums to look like nothing more than naughty child's play.
William Mackey
The poster child for inflation has to be in the retail housing market. Fixer Uppers that went begging for a buyer two years ago are the subject of bidding wars today. Biden is pouring trillions into an emergency that is not there.
DANIEL PETROSINI
The Fed is now just another political entity. They are justifying the ridiculous increase in money supply with the 'temporary' argument. It is critical to note, they have always been late. This will not end well.
jennifer raineri
So right. And everyone is just whistling through the graveyard.
Ivaylo Ivanov
One possibility is that households spend some of their savings but continue to save more than before in case of future trouble, while higher prices make people think twice about splashing out.
When people see prices rising across the board they spend and hoard, they don't save, especially when savings accounts interest rates are 0%.
CHING CHANG TSAI
In my opinion, anyone with common sense knows that inflation is here. Everything is more expensive than before with a significant difference that draws buyer's attention. Even my home value appreciates about 20% more than the value in 2020, estimated by the local government. Thanks to my senior age that helped me to limit the raise to 10%. I protested in vain due to local taxing authority had hard data on hand to dispute my protest.

I accept the reality except that FED said this inflation is "transitory." I can hardly wait till next year to see my home value will depreciate back to my 2020 property value. I hope FED will not "lie" on this subject.

David Weisz
I accept the reality except that FED said this inflation is "transitory."

The Fed description is accurate... it's just whether the transition is to lower inflation or to runaway inflation.

[May 31, 2021] Yes inflation is transitionary. Thos only question is transitionary to what level?

Highly recommended!
As for whether this is "transitory," we may paraphrase J.M. Keynes: In the long run, everything is transitory.
May 31, 2021 | www.wsj.com
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David Weisz

I accept the reality except that FED said this inflation is "transitory."

The Fed description is accurate... it's just whether the transition is to lower inflation or to runaway inflation.

Jim McCreary
The biggest single factor that will drive long-term inflation is the absence of downward price pressure from new Chinese market entrants. Cutthroat pricing from China is the ONLY reason the West has been able to get away with Money-Printing Gone Wild for the past 20 years without triggering runaway inflation.

There are no new Chinese entrants because the Chinese are now all in in the world economy. The existing Chinese competitors are seeing their costs go UP, not down, because they have fully employed the Chinese population, and have to pay up in order to get and keep workers.

So, without any more downward price pressure from China, this latest round of Money-Printing Gone Wild is showing up as price inflation, and will continue to do so.

Batten down the hatches! Stagflation and then runaway inflation are coming!

[May 29, 2021] Peter Schiff -- Inflation Crashes The Party

The read question is when this will happen. So far this year the yield of 10 year bond fluctuate in a rather narrow band. It does not steadily increases...
May 28, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

The latest clue that trouble is brewing has come from the sudden and dramatic arrival of inflation. On May 12, it was revealed that the Consumer Price Index (CPI) had risen 4.2% year-over-year , the fastest pace since 2008.

Some tried to downplay concern by pointing out that the gains resulted from the "base effect" of comparing current prices with the artificially depressed "Covid lockdown" prices of March and April of last year. But that ignores the more alarming trend of near-term price acceleration.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, in every month this year, the month-over-month change in prices has been greater than the change in the previous month.

In April prices jumped .8% from March, versus an expected gain of just .2%. Clearly, if this trend continues, or even fails to dramatically reverse, we could be looking at inflation well north of 5 or 6 percent for the calendar year. That would create a big problem.

Despite Federal Reserve officials' recent assurances that the inflation problem is "transitory," many investors are concluding that the central bank will have to deal with this problem by tightening monetary policy far sooner than had been expected. This would make sense if the Fed cared about restraining inflation or, more importantly, had the power to do anything to stop it. In truth, we are sailing into these waters with little ability to alter speed or course, and we will be wholly at the mercy of the waves we have spent a generation creating.

[May 29, 2021] Inflation Takes Its Cut - WSJ

May 28, 2021 | www.wsj.com

The Commerce Department on Friday reported that consumer spending rose 0.5% in April from a month earlier, which, coming after March's government stimulus-check-fueled surge, was impressive. The gain was driven by a 1.1% increase in spending on services""an indication of how, with Covid-19 cases dropping and vaccination rates rising , consumers are shifting their behavior. Spending on goods actually declined, with the weakness concentrated in spending on nondurable goods such as groceries and cleaning products.

But a closer look at April's overall gain indicates it was mainly driven by price increases. By the Commerce Department's measure, which is the Federal Reserve's preferred gauge of inflation, consumer prices rose 0.6% in April from March, putting them 3.6% above their year-earlier level. As a result, real, or inflation-adjusted spending declined. Core prices, which exclude the often volatile food and energy categories to better capture inflation's underlying trend, were up 0.7% from March, and 3.1% on the year. The Fed's inflation goal is 2%, though it has said it will tolerate higher readings than that for some time.

[May 29, 2021] Peter Schiff- Inflation Crashes The Party - ZeroHedge

May 28, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

The latest clue that trouble is brewing has come from the sudden and dramatic arrival of inflation. On May 12, it was revealed that the Consumer Price Index (CPI) had risen 4.2% year-over-year , the fastest pace since 2008.

Some tried to downplay concern by pointing out that the gains resulted from the "base effect" of comparing current prices with the artificially depressed "Covid lockdown" prices of March and April of last year. But that ignores the more alarming trend of near-term price acceleration.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, in every month this year, the month-over-month change in prices has been greater than the change in the previous month.

In April prices jumped .8% from March, versus an expected gain of just .2%. Clearly, if this trend continues, or even fails to dramatically reverse, we could be looking at inflation well north of 5 or 6 percent for the calendar year. That would create a big problem.

Despite Federal Reserve officials' recent assurances that the inflation problem is "transitory," many investors are concluding that the central bank will have to deal with this problem by tightening monetary policy far sooner than had been expected. This would make sense if the Fed cared about restraining inflation or, more importantly, had the power to do anything to stop it. In truth, we are sailing into these waters with little ability to alter speed or course, and we will be wholly at the mercy of the waves we have spent a generation creating.

[May 28, 2021] What Commodities Prices Are Saying About Inflation by Ryan Dezember, Joe Wallace and Andrew Barnett

May 20, 2021 | www.wsj.com

Prices for the building blocks of the economy have surged over the past year. Oil, copper, corn and gasoline futures all cost about twice what they did a year ago, when much of the world was locked down to fight the spread of the deadly coronavirus. Lumber has more than tripled.

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Nidge M

Not sure its adding anything which hasn't been said already but to look at the same thing in a different way:
2, or if you look at it 'sideways' 3, main interwoven factors drive inflation:
Access to money to spend - That can be wage/earnings increases or access to cheap debt. That ups demand & prices follow.
Devaluation of the currency - Pushes up raw material imports & prices follow.

What curbs inflation?:
High taxation
High interest rates
High unemployment

And if anyone can point to any Western Democracy currently willing to implement any one, never mind all three, of those controls a lot of folk will probably be pretty surprised.

Michael Matus
Commodities prices are not the problem. They are high now because of a short-term surge in demand and supply chain issues. All should be worked out by this time next year.

The long-term structural problem could be wages. If inflation shows up in wages through wage increases through a multitude of industries then there will be a problem,....... a major one.

Having all these people on the Dole from the government didn't help things Joe!

But like all Presidents that came after HW Bush all you care about is getting re-elected. Doling out is a great way even if its at the cost of the country.

The FED as been intervening in the markets for so long that they have no tools left for the next crisis.

The FED painted themselves into a corner and the Stimulus that was not needed left them no Escape.

Michael Brown
"Having all these people on the Dole from the government didn't help things Joe!"

What about raising the minimum wage, and Joe commanding that all workers for federal contractors be paid $15 per hour or more? You think that could be inflationary?

Michael Matus
I would have to agree with yoiu Michael. I should have mentioned that, thank you for reminding me. However, the main problem with all the sources trhat I have out on the street and their are mnay. Is WAGE growth. As far as a national mimum wage there is none. Altough there probably will be now. Most states pay as high or higher than what the Federal Government was proposing.

90% of government contractors make at least $15.00 an hour anyway. The VAST majority of the problem is enhanced unemployment insurance. The 3 month averge of wage groth ending in March was 3.4%. If it hits > 4.0% that will be bad.

Michael Brown
Excellent points, Michael. The list of government actions instigating inflation would be long indeed.
Michael Matus
Unfortunately, Michael, I would have to Wholeheartedly agree with you, Have a Good Weekend!
JOSEPH MICHAEL
Serious, severe inflationary problems are here, they are just starting, and they are going to get much worse.
Brian Kearns
eh.
best to give corporations a large tax cut

so the can buy back stock

Bill Hestir
I will interested to see if new car prices, lumber prices, new home prices, gasoline prices, and food prices will ever go back down to pre-pandemic levels.

If not, with all the new anti-business taxes and reluctance of out-of-work laborers to go back to work, how will businesses not be forced to raise their wages and increase the price of their products even higher than they are today?

At what point, therefore, will the Fed end their "inflation is transitory" farce and raise interest rates?

Deirdre Hood
Food prices, regardless of when inflation ends, will not go down/return to 'normal'.

Supply lines are squeezed (NO ONE can hire reliable transport drivers), low supply of workers, plus factor in a bad year for wheat, and it turns into the perfect storm for commercial bakers.

Judy Neuwirth
Inflation is just getting started. Cho Bi-Den's hyper-regulated economy is only three months old and already it's 1976 all over again!
Jim Chapman
Now Judy, it's just "transitory" inflation as per Yellen, Powell and Buyden. You really must stick with the narrative, and remember, Adam Smith's scurrilous "Invisible Hand" is a ultra-right wing conservative myth. So we are not supposed to believe our lying eyes.

[May 28, 2021] Inflation Forces Investors to Scramble for Solutions - WSJ

May 24, 2021 | www.wsj.com

The price of the benchmark 10-year Treasury inflation-protected security logged its biggest one-day decline in a month. Shares of real-estate investment trusts slid the most since January. Commodities were generally flat but dropped the following day.

The three asset classes have vacillated since, but their initial moves showed the unexpected ways that markets can behave when inflation is rising, especially when many are already expensive by historical measures.

This week, investors will gain greater insight into the inflation picture when the Commerce Department updates the Federal Reserve's preferred inflation gauge, the personal-consumption-expenditures price index. They will also track earnings from the likes of Dollar General Corp. , Costco Wholesale Corp. and Salesforce.com Inc.

The stakes are high for investors. Inflation dents the value of traditional government and corporate bonds because it reduces the purchasing power of their fixed interest payments. But it can also hurt stocks, analysts say, by pushing up interest rates and increasing input costs for companies.

From early 1973 through last December, stocks have delivered positive inflation-adjusted returns in 90% of rolling 12-month periods that occurred when inflation""as measured by the consumer-price index""was below 3% and rising, according to research by Sean Markowicz, a strategist at Schroders, the U.K. asset-management firm. But that fell to only 48% of the periods when inflation was above 3% and rising.

A recent report from the Labor Department showed that the consumer-price index jumped 4.2% in April from a year earlier, up from 2.6% in March. Even excluding volatile food and energy prices, it was up 3% from a year earlier, blowing past analysts' expectations for a 2.3% gain.

Analysts say that there are plenty of reasons why inflation won't be able to maintain that pace for long. The latest year-over-year numbers were inflated by comparisons to deeply depressed prices from the early days of the pandemic. They were also supported by supply bottlenecks that many view as fixable and robust consumer demand that could dissipate once households have spent government stimulus checks.

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By comparison, the S&P GSCI Commodity Total Return Index delivered positive inflation-adjusted returns in 83% of the high and rising inflation periods. "Commodities are a source of input costs for companies and they're also a key component of the inflation index, which by definition you're trying to hedge," said Mr. Markowicz.

At the same time, commodities are among the most volatile of all asset classes and can be influenced by an array of idiosyncratic factors.

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Tracy Harris

Charles Goodhart, the economist from the Bank of England, has just written an important book arguing that worldwide demographic changes are going to result in a couple of decades of high inflation. See Charles Goodhart, The Great Democratic Reversal: Ageing Societies, Waning Inequality, and an Inflation Revival. Maybe the Journal could find someone to review it. Maybe Ms. Yellen should read it.

(Douglas Levene)

Bruce Fegley
This article is naive, if not ridiculous, for several reasons. I name a few.

1st - the stock market is the best hedge against inflation over a long time period - years, not daily, weekly, or quarterly. Especially with dividend reinvesting and with an automatic buying plan like the DRIP plans offered by many companies at no or very low cost.

2nd - Individuals can buy US government I-series savings bonds at NO COST directly from the US Treasury, and while they do not completely hedge against inflation, they offer good interest rates that beat bank interest and are completely insured.

3rd - Toyota and perhaps other car companies offer notes with higher interest than banks but not FDIC insured. About 1.5% now.

One does not have to blow money away on bitcoin or hold gold, which is taxed as a collectible and has assay fees on the front and back ends of any buy/sell transaction unless one is buying coins which have a markup to begin with.

Theo Walker
Started buying I-bonds this month. The rates are great! Easily the best safe investment right now.
Bryson Marsh
... why would you buy TIPS? The spread is a farce after all.
PHILIP NICHOLAS
Inflation is always sticky . In other words all the prices do not go down . Wages that are increased , usually stay . Companies sense a new level they can pass on to consumers . And the Government damage to energy prices will influence prices .
Bryson Marsh
Memory costs, data plans, and televisions are all examples that clearly demonstrate secular price declines despite periodic increases.
Charles D
"Inflation Forces Investors to Scramble for Solutions"
Hundreds of millions of Americans are going to suffer as the Federal Government inflates the national debt away over the next 10 to 15 years. Investors will figure it out, but the little guy will get crushed once again. Oh well, we get the government we deserve.
A Eichler
CME futures contracts ...

OIL - NAT GAS - PROPYLENE - COPPER - LUMBER - STEEL - SOYBEAN - 2 yr. and 5 yr. T-Note

They are all substantially down, one year from now; except Copper and financials which are flat.

What does that say about the economy & inflation in one year?

Paul Smith
I am under the impression that the Social Security COLA is based on a September to September comparison of the CPI-U. That is to say, for example, September 2020 CPI-U vs. September 2021 CPI-U. Is this not correct?

We have had inflation over over the past decade or so. As measured by the CPI-U, it has hovered around 2 percent. Not a big deal to the Fed's economists. Cumulatively, however, it adds up.

I have been retired for 16 years. Inflation has eroded the purchasing power of my fixed pension by 25.5. Mercifully, I have other resources to make up the loss, but for people on a fixed pension, so-called mild inflation can wreck it over time.

James Webb
Paul, one of the lower estimates for 2022:

"The Kiplinger Letter is forecasting that the annual cost-of-living adjustment for Social Security benefits for 2022 will be 4.5%, the biggest jump since 2008, when benefits rose 5.8%. That would also be higher than the 3% adjustment The Kiplinger Letter predicted earlier this year."

From SocialSecurity dot gov:

"To determine the COLA, the average CPI-W for the third calendar quarter of the most recent year a COLA was determined is compared to the average CPI-W for the third calendar quarter of the current year. The resulting percentage increase, if any, represents the percentage that will be used to increase Social Security benefits beginning for December of the current year. "

So the predicted 4.5-4.7% increase for 2022 will take effect December 31 this year.

Of course the calculation is not completed yet....

James Robertson
The Fed's inflation calculations have become increasingly "fuzzy" since the Boskin Commission in 1995. The CPI ignores housing, food, and energy. Healthcare gets weighted at 3 percent, though it accounts for 18 percent of expenditures. "Hedonic quality adjustment" is another knob the Fed turns to "control" inflation. Inflation calculated by comparing the price of a basket of goods this year to a basket of goods last year runs quite a bit higher than the CPI; even higher if you include food, shelter, and energy in that basket.
James Webb
What's in the CPI?

-Food and Beverages (breakfast cereal, milk, coffee, chicken, wine, full service meals, snacks)
-Housing (rent of primary residence, owners' equivalent rent, fuel oil, bedroom furniture)
-Clothes (men's shirts and sweaters, women's dresses, jewelry)
-Transportation (new vehicles, airline fares, gasoline, motor vehicle insurance)
-Medical Care (prescription drugs and medical supplies, physicians' services, eyeglasses and eye care, hospital services)
-Recreation (televisions, toys, pets and pet products, sports equipment, admissions)
-Education and Communication (college tuition, postage, telephone services, computer software and accessories)
-Other Goods and Services (tobacco and smoking products, haircuts and other personal services, funeral expenses)

Tim Adams
The core CPI which the Fed uses excludes food and energy. The Consumer price index which is used for things like social security adjustments does not. These very similar but different uses of the same acronym just adds to the confusion.

[May 28, 2021] Inflation Debate Hits Emerging Markets

Notable quotes:
"... there's a growing sense that the forces behind the recovery will eventually feed through to higher prices if left unchecked. One harbinger could be the rally in commodities, with a key index of raw materials this month jumping to a five-year high. ..."
"... "If the stimulus continues, at some point it will become inflationary," said Sanjiv Bhatia, the chief investment officer at Pembroke Emerging Markets in London. "At some point, we believe it will become a problem." ..."
May 09, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

The prospect of tighter monetary conditions in emerging markets still hasn't changed the overall calculus for many investors, with behemoths including Pacific Investment Management Co. and BlackRock Inc. focusing on the growth story instead. Developing-nation inflation remains near a record low, with the economic rebound making assets look "increasingly interesting," according to Dan Ivascyn, Pimco's group chief investment officer in Newport Beach, California.

Yet there's a growing sense that the forces behind the recovery will eventually feed through to higher prices if left unchecked. One harbinger could be the rally in commodities, with a key index of raw materials this month jumping to a five-year high.

"If the stimulus continues, at some point it will become inflationary," said Sanjiv Bhatia, the chief investment officer at Pembroke Emerging Markets in London. "At some point, we believe it will become a problem."

For now, assurances from the Federal Reserve that inflation in the U.S. is unlikely to get out of control have supported the bulls. The Fed appears in no rush to raise interest rates, a move that would siphon capital out of emerging economies currently enjoying the windfall from U.S. stimulus.

That major central banks currently view inflation as transitory should boost developing-nation currencies as a whole, according to Henrik Gullberg, a London-based macro strategist at Coex Partners Ltd.

MSCI Inc.'s emerging-market currency index has climbed to a record high, while the benchmark equity gauge just posted its biggest two-day rally in almost two weeks amid a rally in energy and technology shares. On Friday, risk assets got further support when U.S. job growth data significantly undershot forecasts.

"On the one hand, the valuations of growth stocks look meaningfully less demanding after recent underperformance coupled with earnings upgrades," said Kate Moore, the head of thematic strategy at BlackRock in New York. "On the other, rising inflationary pressures from the broad economic restart and low inventories should be supportive of cyclicals and commodity producers."

[May 28, 2021] Treasury yields to rise in the second half of the year, pushed higher by rises in yields on inflation-protected Treasurys

Notable quotes:
"... Mark Carbana, U.S. rates strategist at Bank of America, still expects U.S. rates to rise further especially if there is a strong reading for the Fed's preferred measure of inflation, personal consumption expenditures, due out next Friday. ..."
"... He expects Treasury yields to rise in the second half of the year ..."
May 21, 2021 | www.wsj.com

Originally from Government Bond Yields Fall as Investors Grapple With Muddied Economic Picture by By Paul J. Davies

In the U.S., inflation readings have been strong and the minutes of the last Fed meeting released Wednesday showed there had been some discussion about slowing bond purchases -- also known as taper talk.

... Mark Carbana, U.S. rates strategist at Bank of America, still expects U.S. rates to rise further especially if there is a strong reading for the Fed's preferred measure of inflation, personal consumption expenditures, due out next Friday. "Uncertainty around inflation is the highest it has been in decades," he said, particularly around whether recent high readings are temporary or due to changes in the underlying economy. He expects Treasury yields to rise in the second half of the year , pushed higher by rises in yields on inflation-protected Treasurys as the Fed starts to talk more seriously about tapering its bond purchases.

Write to Paul J. Davies at [email protected]

[May 28, 2021] How transitory is transitory inflation?

May 27, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

As the credit strategist continues, "while it is easy to blame transitory factors, these were surely all known about before the last several data prints and could have been factored into forecasts. That they weren't suggests that the transitory forces are more powerful than economists imagined or that there is more widespread inflation than they previously believed. "

To be sure, all such "˜surprise' indices always mean revert so the inflation one will as well. However as Reid concludes, "the fact that we're seeing an overwhelming positive beat on US inflation surprises in recent times must surely reduce the confidence to some degree of those expecting it to be transitory. "

[May 28, 2021] Stocks could drop 20% when Fed fights inflation: hedge fund founder

May 25, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

Inflation fears already roiled the market this week with the Nasdaq falling nearly 2%, but one hedge fund founder is sounding the alarm over a potential 20% collapse that could be sparked by the Federal Reserve signaling an end to accommodative pandemic-era monetary policy later this year.

Satori Fund founder Dan Niles recently told Yahoo Finance that this week's hotter-than-anticipated inflation data coupled with other central banks around the world already coming off their easy money policies will likely corner the Fed into tapering its accommodative policies sooner than expected.

"If you've got food prices, energy prices, shelter prices moving up as rapidly as they are, the Fed's not going to have any choice," he said, predicting that the Fed could signal the beginning of a move to wind down its monthly $120 billion a month pace of asset purchases by this summer. "They can say what they want, but this reminds me to some degree of them saying back in 2007 that the subprime crisis was well contained. Obviously it wasn't."

[May 28, 2021] Bond Traders See a Path to 2% Yields Lurking in US

Can it be wage driven inflation, when there is mass unemployment of the scale that we observer. That's a stupid idea. Commodites driven inflation is possible as oil if probably past its peak, but for now production continued at plato level and cars are getting slightly more economical, espcially passenger car, where hybrids reached 40 miles er gallon.
Notable quotes:
"... The prospect of a rebound to 2% yields on the world's benchmark bond is alive and well. ..."
May 09, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

The prospect of a rebound to 2% yields on the world's benchmark bond is alive and well.

Treasury-market bears found a deeper message within Friday's weak employment report that's emboldened a view that inflationary pressures are on the rise, and could boost rates to levels not seen since 2019. For Mark Holman at TwentyFour Asset Management, the sub-par April labor reading indicated companies will need to lift wages to entice people back into the labor force; he's expecting a break of 2% on the 10-year this year.

That level has come to symbolize a return to pre-pandemic normalcy in both markets and the economy. The wild ride in markets on Friday suggests Holman likely has company in his views. Ten-year yields initially plunged to a more than two-month low of 1.46%, then reversed to end the day at 1.58%. Meanwhile, a key market proxy of inflation expectations surged to a level last seen in 2013.

[May 24, 2021] The Fed Has Lost Control -- John Williams Warns Of Hyperinflation In 2022

I agree that Fed might lose the control: much depends on the continuation of the status of the dollar as the main reserve currency. If this position continue to weaken all beta are off.
May 24, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

What would happen to the financial system if the Fed stopped printing massive amounts of money for stimulus and debt service? Williams explains,

" You could see financial implosion by preventing liquidity being put into the system. The system needs liquidity (freshly created dollars) to function. Without that liquidity, you would see more of an economic implosion than you have already seen. In fact, I will contend that the headline pandemic numbers have actually been a lot worse than they have been reporting. It also means we are not recovering quite as quickly. The Fed needs to keep the banking system afloat. They want to keep the economy afloat. All that requires a tremendous influx of liquidity in these difficult times."

So, is the choice inflation or implosion? Williams says, "That's the choice, and I think we are going to have a combination of both of them. .."

" I think we are eventually headed into a hyperinflationary economic collapse. It's not that we haven't been in an economic collapse already, we are coming back some now. . . . The Fed has been creating money at a pace that has never been seen before. You are basically up 75% (in money creation) year over year. This is unprecedented. Normally, it might be up 1% or 2% year over year. The exploding money supply will lead to inflation. I am not saying we are going to get to 75% inflation -- yet, but you are getting up to the 4% or 5% range, and you are soon going to be seeing 10% range year over year. . . . The Fed has lost control of inflation. "

And remember, when the Fed has to admit the official inflation rate is 10%, John Williams says, "When they have to admit the inflation rate is 10%, my number is going to be up to around 15% or higher. My number rides on top of their number."

Right now, the Shadowstat.com inflation rate is above 11%. That's if it were calculated the way it was before 1980 when the government started using accounting gimmicks to make inflation look less than it really is. The Shadowstats.com number cuts out all the accounting gimmicks and is the true inflation rate that most Americans are seeing right now, not the "official" 4.25% recently reported.

Williams says the best way to fight the inflation that is already here is to buy tangible assets. Williams says,

"Canned food is a tangible asset, and you can use it for barter if you have to. . . . Physical gold and silver is the best way to protect your buying power over time."

Gold may be a bit expensive for most, but silver is still relatively cheap. Williams says, "Everything is going to go up in price."

When will the worst inflation be hitting America? Williams predicts,

"I am looking down the road, and in early 2022, I am looking for something close to a hyperinflationary circumstance and effectively a collapsed economy."

Join Greg Hunter of USAWatchdog.com as he goes One-on-One with John Williams, founder of ShadowStats.com.


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Nikki Alexis 7 minutes ago

John Williams warning about hyperinflation is like Peter Schitt telling me stocks are going to crash. It's coming, it's coming! Boy crying wolf.

Cautiously Pessimistic 59 minutes ago

Accounting Gimmicks. Election Gimmicks. Gender Gimmicks. Science Gimmicks. Rule of Law Gimmicks.

America has become one big fun house of gimmicks.

Time for a RESET.

NoDebt 54 minutes ago remove link

Yeah, the Reset Gimmick. Where they fundamentally transform themselves into a permanent position of power. Never mind that they'll kill millions to achieve it.

Samual Vimes 47 minutes ago (Edited)

What about gutting primary dealers by buying T bills directly ?

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/fed-prepares-go-direct-liquidity

[May 18, 2021] Who Bought the $4.7 Trillion of Treasury Securities Added Since March 2020 to the Incredibly Spiking US National Debt-

May 18, 2021 | wolfstreet.com

Who Bought the $4.7 Trillion of Treasury Securities Added Since March 2020 to the Incredibly Spiking US National Debt? by Wolf Richter • May 17, 2021 • 119 Comments The Fed did. Nearly everyone did. Even China nibbled again. Here's who holds that monstrous $28.1 trillion US National Debt. By Wolf Richter for WOLF STREET .

The US national debt has been decades in the making, was then further fired up when the tax cuts took effect in 2018 during the Good Times. But starting in March 2020, it became the Incredibly Spiking US National Debt. Since that moment 15 months ago, it spiked by $4.7 trillion, to $28.14 trillion, amounting to 128% of GDP in current dollars:

But who bought this $4.7 trillion in new debt?

We can piece this together through the first quarter in terms of the categories of holders: Foreign buyers as per the Treasury International Capital data, released this afternoon by the Treasury Department; the purchases by the Fed as per its weekly balance sheet; the purchases by the US banks as per the Federal Reserve Board of Governors bank balance-sheet data; and the purchases by US government entities, such as US government pension funds, as per the Treasury Department's data on Treasury securities.

Foreign creditors of the US.

Japan , the largest foreign creditor of the US, dumped $18 billion of US Treasuries in March, reducing its stash to $1.24 trillion. Since March 2020, its holdings dropped by $32 billion.

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China had been gradually reducing its holdings over the past few years, but then late last year started adding to them again. In March, its holdings ticked down for the first time in months, by $4 billion, bringing its holdings to $1.1 trillion. Since March 2020, it added $9 billion:

But Japan's and China's importance as creditors to the US has been diminishing because the US debt has ballooned. In March, their combined share (green line) fell to 8.3%, the lowest in many years:

All foreign holders combined dumped $70 billion in Treasury securities in March, bringing their holdings to $7.028 trillion (blue line, left scale). But this was still up by $79 billion from March 2020.

These foreign holders include foreign central banks, foreign government entities, and foreign private-sector entities such as companies, banks, bond funds, and individuals. Despite the increase of their holdings since March 2020, their share of the Incredibly Spiking US National Debt fell to 25.0%, the lowest since 2007 (red line, right scale):

After Japan & China, the 10 biggest foreign holders include tax havens where US corporations have mailbox entities where some of their Treasury holdings are registered. But Germany and Mexico, with which the US has massive trade deficits, are in 17th and 24th place. The percentages indicate the change from March 2020. Note the percentage increase of India's holdings:

US government funds hit record, but share of total debt drops further.

US government pension funds for federal civilian employees, pension funds for the US military, the US Social Security Trust Fund , and other federal government funds bought on net $5 billion of Treasury securities in Q1 and $98 billion since March 2020, bringing their holdings to a record of $6.11 trillion (blue line, left scale).

But that increase was outrun by the Incredibly Spiking US National Debt, and their share of total US debt dropped to 21.8%, the lowest since dirt was young, and down from a share of 45% in 2008 (red line, right scale):

Federal Reserve goes hog-wild: monetization of the US debt.

The Fed bought on net $243 billion of Treasury securities in Q1 and $2.44 trillion since it began the bailouts of the financial markets in March 2020. Over this period through March 31, it has more than doubled its holdings of Treasuries to $4.94 trillion (blue line, left scale). It now holds a record of 17.6% of the Incredibly Spiking US National Debt (red line, right scale):

US Banks pile them up.

US commercial banks bought on net $28 billion in Treasury securities in Q1 and $267 billion since March 2020, bringing the total to a record $1.24 trillion, according to Federal Reserve data on bank balance sheets. They now hold 4.4% of the Incredibly Spiking US National Debt:

Other US entities & individuals

So far, we covered the net purchases by all foreign-registered holders, by the Fed, by US government funds, and by US banks. What's unaccounted for: US individuals and institutions other than the Fed, the banks, and the government. These include bond funds, private-sector, state, and municipal pension funds, insurers, US corporations, hedge funds (they use Treasuries in complex leveraged trades), private equity firms that need to park billions in "dry powder," etc.

These US entities hold the remainder of Incredibly Spiking US National Debt. Their holdings surged by $149 billion in Q4 and by $2.35 trillion since March 2020, to a record $8.76 trillion (blue line, left scale). This raised their share of the total debt to 31.2% (red line, right scale), making these US individuals and institutions combined the largest holder of that monstrous mountain of debt:

The Incredibly Spiking US National Debt and who holds it, all in one monstrous pile:

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[May 17, 2021] Stocks could drop 20% when Fed fights inflation- hedge fund founder

May 17, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

Guzman

May 17, 2021

Inflation fears already roiled the market this week with the Nasdaq falling nearly 2%, but one hedge fund founder is sounding the alarm over a potential 20% collapse that could be sparked by the Federal Reserve signaling an end to accommodative pandemic-era monetary policy later this year.

Satori Fund founder Dan Niles recently told Yahoo Finance that this week's hotter-than-anticipated inflation data coupled with other central banks around the world already coming off their easy money policies will likely corner the Fed into tapering its accommodative policies sooner than expected.

"If you've got food prices, energy prices, shelter prices moving up as rapidly as they are, the Fed's not going to have any choice," he said, predicting that the Fed could signal the beginning of a move to wind down its monthly $120 billion a month pace of asset purchases by this summer. "They can say what they want, but this reminds me to some degree of them saying back in 2007 that the subprime crisis was well contained. Obviously it wasn't."

For their part, Fed officials have remained adamant that a rise in inflation is to be expected as a transitory reality of the economy reopening from the pandemic lockdown. The latest print from the Bureau of Labor Statistics out this week , however, may have spooked investors when it showed consumer prices for the month of April rose at their fastest annual pace since 2008. That inflation metric, which is different than the Fed's preferred Personal Consumption Expenditures (PCE) index , jumped to a 4.2% rise over the last 12 months. The Fed has already signaled it would be comfortable staying accommodative even if inflation in the recovery shoots past 2% as measured by its preferred metric.

[May 16, 2021] Morgan Stanley- This Is The Biggest Threat To The Red-Hot Global Recovery - ZeroHedge

May 16, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

In the US, this translates to a growth environment where GDP will be 3pp above its pre-COVID-19 path by end-2022 and underlying core PCE inflation (adjusted for base effects) rises above 2%Y from March 2022. The Fed, which is now aiming for inflation averaging 2%Y and maximum employment, should remain accommodative. Our chief US economist Ellen Zentner expects the Fed to signal its intention to taper asset purchases at the September FOMC meeting, to announce it in March 2022 and to start tapering from April 2022 . On our forecasts, rate hikes begin in 3Q23, after inflation remains at or above 2%Y for some time and the labour market reaches maximum employment.

What are the risks to this story? Most obvious is the emergence of new COVID-19 variants that resist vaccines. However, I have argued that the biggest threat to this cycle is an overshoot in US core PCE inflation beyond the Fed's implicit 2.5%Y threshold – a serious concern, in my view, which could emerge from mid-2022 onwards .


Portal 4 hours ago

LMFAO!!!

You sent manufacturing and industry to China.

There is no "red hot recovery.". Just a long descent into fascism and communist poverty.

Newpuritan 4 hours ago

The "red hot recovery." they are hoping for is replacing all efficient energy production with inefficient "green" energy. The costs will be astronomical but are hoped to offset the Boomer generation retirement period.

Iskiab 2 hours ago (Edited)

Yea, all these forecasting models are garbage. They're all based on a faulty assumption that trends continue so the growth we see now will continue, plus things will revert back to the trend line. Junk in, junk out.

A more realistic assessment would be there was a bump from reopening, but costs have increased. It will be impossible to get back to the old growth trend line, and expect the low growth of the last 20 years to continue from hereon out. The stimulus will help a bit but not much, most of the stimulus was misallocated.

JH2020 3 hours ago (Edited)

It's the sycophants of the Wall Street/government confidence game, dropping words that, hopefully, lead to buying securities, not selling, though, perversely, any negative truths result in the assumption there will be a new flood of free money, from the Fed, driving margin debt even more vertical, such that one needs a second page for the chart, or a more drastic log scale. (In this economy so red hot interests rates need to be kept near zero, for the remainder of the century, and near daily reassurance the Fed will accommodate anything and everything, whatsoever, anytime a sector gets some heartburn, or a red candlestick gets too large.)

Red hot = FOMO bait.

The "red not" verbiage is comical, reminds me of Hollywood sycophants, that write reviews of some pretend person, some degenerate nobody, "In an unparalleled display of performing brilliance, in this worthy sequel to A Couple Hours of Brains Splattered All Over the Wall, and which only proves his sheer genius, the way he flared his nostrils, while driving in the chase scene, that went two times around the entire city perimeter, in the ongoing lanes...".

ebworthen 4 hours ago

"Red hot global recovery"? ROFLMAO!

That isn't recovery, it is money printing, inflation, and rabid speculation.

hugin-o-munin 4 hours ago (Edited)

Who do these people think they can fool?

This was about the dumbest article by a bank in a long while. Pushing a contrarian lie too hard reveals it quicker than keeping quiet. Someone should remind Morgan Stanley of this age old truth. Real inflation is destroying the USD right now. Ignoring it and pretending otherwise will only accelerate the fall into hyper inflation.

J J Pettigrew 3 hours ago

A little inflation is good for you.

What's a little? 2.5%? For ten years....a flat chart of 2.5% each year... .looks like nothing happened....just 28% off the value of the dollar...thats all.

Sound of the Suburbs 2 hours ago

How does anything really work?

I don't know, I use neoclassical economics.

Everyone tries to kill growth by making the same mistakes as Japan.

Japan led the way and everyone followed.

At 25.30 mins you can see the super imposed private debt-to-GDP ratios.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAStZJCKmbU&list=PLmtuEaMvhDZZQLxg24CAiFgZYldtoCR-R&index=6

What Japan does in the 1980s; the US, the UK and Euro-zone do leading up to 2008 and China has done more recently.

The PBoC saw the financial crisis coming unlike the BoJ, ECB, BoE and the FED.

Oh dear, we did what you did in Japan.

Now we've had a financial crisis and are facing a Great Depression just like you.

Japan could study the Great Depression to avoid this fate.

(The US had done the same thing in the 1920s (see graph above), it always seems to happen with neoclassical economics)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YTyJzmiHGk

How did Japan avoid a Great Depression?

They saved the banks

How did Japan kill growth and inflation for the next thirty years?

They left the debt in place and the repayments on that debt killed growth and inflation (Japanification)

The Chinese did see the financial crisis coming, but they have reached the end of the line on the debt fuelled growth model of globalisation.

They just need to find out how an economy really works.

As if anyone has got the slightest idea what they are doing.

How does anything really work?

I don't know, I use neoclassical economics.

Sound of the Suburbs 2 hours ago

Everyone tries to kill growth by making the same mistakes as Japan.

European policymakers were successful.

What does Japanification look like?

https://tradingeconomics.com/japan/gdp

(Set scale to max. to get the full picture)

The EU economy hasn't been going anywhere since 2008.

https://tradingeconomics.com/european-union/gdp

(Set scale to max. to get the full picture)

It's Japanification

The UK economy has hasn't been going anywhere since 2008.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/gdp

(Set scale to max. to get the full picture)

It's Japanification

Well done, you dimwits.

How does anything really work?

I don't know, I use neoclassical economics.

Sound of the Suburbs 2 hours ago

Why did they think private debt wouldn't be a problem after 2008?

Probably the same reason they didn't notice it building up before 2008.

The economics of globalisation has always had an Achilles' heel.

The 1920s roared with debt based consumption and speculation until it all tipped over into the debt deflation of the Great Depression. No one realised the problems that were building up in the economy as they used an economics that doesn't look at debt, neoclassical economics.

Not considering private debt is the Achilles' heel of neoclassical economics.

That explains it.

"We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them." Albert Einstein.

Who do you think you are?

This is what we are going to do, whether you like it or not.

He must be one of those populists.

Einstein was right of course, but you know what neoliberals are like.

Anyone that doesn't go along with their ideas must be a populist.

Sound of the Suburbs 2 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Not considering private debt is the Achilles' heel of neoclassical economics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAStZJCKmbU&list=PLmtuEaMvhDZZQLxg24CAiFgZYldtoCR-R&index=6

At 18 mins.

1929 and 2008 stick out like sore thumbs.

No one realised the problems that were building up in the economy as they used an economics that doesn't look at debt, neoclassical economics.

Einstein's definition of madness "Doing the same thing again and again and expecting to get a different result"

Einstein was right again.

He was a clever bloke.

[May 13, 2021] Investors brace for test of nerves as inflation worries mount

Weak analysis. The fundamental factor is the price for energy, not some trivia like used cars and trucks. Teh second dot com bubble will deflate but it is unclear when and whether this is a crash or gradual deplation of worthless junk stocks which enjoyed "profitless" IPOs.
With rising energy prices it is more difficult to keep interpreting high CPI numbers as temporary. But like in the past the USA will fight the rise in energy prices tools and nail. With the full power of their global neoliberal empire.
May 13, 2021 | www.ft.com

... prices for used cars and trucks jumped 10 per cent in April alone, accounting for a large slice of the gains in the overall index.

"It looks like Wall Street is climbing the wall of worry," said Gregory Perdon, co-chief investment officer at private bank Arbuthnot Latham. "The bears are constantly looking for signs that the world is going to end. They come up with all the potential excuses. The reality is that the only question that matters is whether the reopening is going OK or not.

... Notably, while 10-year US yields did rise on Wednesday after the inflation data release, they did not hit new highs.

[May 13, 2021] Inflation Doesn't Have to Mean High Interest Rates - WSJ

May 13, 2021 | www.wsj.com

Inflation is back. The U.S. consumer-price index surged to a 13-year high of 4.2% in April, official data showed Wednesday. The eurozone's figure is a weaker 1.6%, but still a two-year high. The global bond market isn't panicking yet. The pandemic led many distressed companies to slash prices in 2020. Investors always knew that, as the economy reopened, some year-over-year increases would be huge.

The prices of most products haven't changed much . CPI gyrations are mostly down to a few items particularly affected by lockdowns and travel restrictions, such as airfares and restaurant prices, as well as commodities. Excluding food and energy, U.S. inflation in April was just 3%.

... Over the past few decades, for example, CPI figures have mostly been the results of a concatenation of "temporary" trends in different sectors -- the costs of education and healthcare rose nonstop, while the prices of many goods continuously fell. It was different in the 1970s, when an idiosyncratic squeeze in the supply of oil fueled an inflationary spiral that pushed all costs up.

[May 12, 2021] What is the nature of current round of inflation in the USA; after all wages are stagnant

May 12, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

paulmeli , May 12 2021 18:50 utc | 21

"Inflation" in the US is mostly profit-taking and speculation (scalping)

[May 11, 2021] Jim Grant- The Fed Can't Control Inflation

May 11, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

...As Peter Schiff put it, CPI is a lie . Grant used the evolution of the toothbrush into its electric form as an example. How do you measure the clear quality improvements in the toothbrush? The government uses hedonics to measure these changes, but as Grant pointed out, this is "inexact and not really a science."

Grant believes that the economy can only tolerate 2.5% real rates. If that is breached, he thinks the Fed will have to resort to yield-curve control. If it does actually try to shrink its balance sheet and sell bonds, it will drive bond yields even higher. Fed bond-buying is the only thing propping up the bond market right now.

In fact, the Fed is propping up the entire economy. There is a sense that the Fed will always step in and save the markets. As a result, we have bubbles everywhere, from the stock market, to real estate, to cryptocurrency.

"These are strange and oppressive markers of financial markets that have lost moorings of valuation," Grant said.

I think the astounding complacency toward, or indifference of, the evident excesses in our monetary and fiscal affairs I think the lack of concern about those things is perhaps the most striking inflationary augur I know of."

Meanwhile, the Fed continues to create money. M1 annual growth is 350%; M2 is growing at approximately 28%.

"Never before have we had monetary peacetime growth this fast," Grant said.

"Tell me who cares."

Grant said central bankers like Powell are guilty of hubris. They suffer from the delusion that they can actually control everything. Grant called the Fed "un-self-aware."

Despite Jay Powell's credentials, he knows nothing about the past and believes he knows everything about the future."

Grant talked about gold , saying it is an investment in "monetary disorder."

To me, gold isn't a hedge against monetary disorder. It's an investment in monetary disorder, which is what we have. We have floating-rate currencies. We have manipulated exchange rates. We have manipulated interest rates. When the cycle turns, people will want gold and silver, and they will want something tangible ."

[May 11, 2021] Consumers Expect Surging Inflation to Crush the Purchasing Power of their Labor- Fed's Survey - Wolf Street

May 11, 2021 | wolfstreet.com

Consumers are picking up on the rise of inflation, and the Fed, which has been trying to heat up inflation, is pleased. The Fed watches "inflation expectations" carefully. The minutes from the March FOMC meeting mention "inflation expectations" 12 times.

The New York Fed's Survey of Consumer Expectations for April, released today, showed that median inflation expectations for one year from now rose to 3.4%, matching the prior highs in 2013 (the surveys began in June 2013).

But wait the median earnings growth expectations 12 months from now was only 2.1%, and remains near the low end of the spectrum, a sign that consumers are grappling with consumer price inflation outrunning earnings growth. The whoppers were in the major specific categories.

[May 10, 2021] The Feds history of jawboning and deceiving the market players, except large banks

History repeats and the repetition is coming with some minor variations.
Notable quotes:
"... "Corporate bond rates have been rising steadily since May. Yellen is not doing what Greenspan did in 2004." ..."
"... There isn't much of a difference between signaling tighter money to a market that is skeptical of Fed forecasts and actually tightening. ..."
"... While at 5.0 percent, the unemployment rate is not extraordinarily high, most other measures of the labor market are near recession levels. The percentage of the workforce that is involuntarily working part-time is near the highs reached following the 2001 recession. The average and median duration of unemployment spells are also near recession highs. And the percentage of workers who feel confident enough to quit their jobs without another job lined up remains near the low points reached in 2002. ..."
"... While wage growth has edged up somewhat in recent months by some measures, it is still well below a rate that is consistent with the Fed's inflation target. Hourly wages have risen at a 2.7 percent rate over the last year. If there is just 1.5 percent productivity growth, this would be consistent with a rate of inflation of 1.2 percent. ..."
"... One positive point in today's action is the Fed's commitment in its statement to allow future rate hikes to be guided by the data, rather than locking in a path towards "normalization" as was effectively done in 2004. ..."
Dec 17, 2015 | economistsview.typepad.com
Peter K. -> RC AKA Darryl, Ron... December 17, 2015 at 10:12 AM
"Corporate bond rates have been rising steadily since May. Yellen is not doing what Greenspan did in 2004."

There isn't much of a difference between signaling tighter money to a market that is skeptical of Fed forecasts and actually tightening.

http://cepr.net/press-center/press-releases/statement-on-fed-and-interest-rates

Washington, D.C.- Dean Baker, economist and a co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research (CEPR) issued the following statement in response to the Federal Reserve's decision regarding interest rates:

"The Fed's decision to raise interest rates today is an unfortunate move in the wrong direction. In setting interest rate policy the Fed must decide whether the economy is at risk of having too few or too many jobs, with the latter being determined by the extent to which its current rate of job creation may lead to inflation. It is difficult to see how the evidence would lead the Fed to conclude that the greater risk at the moment is too many jobs.

"While at 5.0 percent, the unemployment rate is not extraordinarily high, most other measures of the labor market are near recession levels. The percentage of the workforce that is involuntarily working part-time is near the highs reached following the 2001 recession. The average and median duration of unemployment spells are also near recession highs. And the percentage of workers who feel confident enough to quit their jobs without another job lined up remains near the low points reached in 2002.

"If we look at employment rates rather than unemployment, the percentage of prime-age workers (ages 25-54) with jobs is still down by almost three full percentage points from the pre-recession peak and by more than four full percentage points from the peak hit in 2000. This does not look like a strong labor market.

"On the other side, there is virtually no basis for concerns about the risk of inflation in the current data. The most recent data show that the core personal consumption expenditure deflator targeted by the Fed increased at just a 1.2 percent annual rate over the last three months, down slightly from the 1.3 percent rate over the last year. This means that the Fed should be concerned about being below its inflation target, not above it.

"While wage growth has edged up somewhat in recent months by some measures, it is still well below a rate that is consistent with the Fed's inflation target. Hourly wages have risen at a 2.7 percent rate over the last year. If there is just 1.5 percent productivity growth, this would be consistent with a rate of inflation of 1.2 percent.

"Furthermore, it is important to recognize that workers took a large hit to their wages in the downturn, with a shift of more than four percentage points of national income from wages to profits. In principle, workers can restore their share of national income (the equivalent of an 8 percent wage gain), but the Fed would have to be prepared to allow wage growth to substantially outpace prices for a period of time. If the Fed acts to prevent workers from getting this bargaining power, it will effectively lock in place this upward redistribution. Needless to say, workers at the middle and bottom of the wage distribution can expect to see the biggest hit in this scenario.

"One positive point in today's action is the Fed's commitment in its statement to allow future rate hikes to be guided by the data, rather than locking in a path towards "normalization" as was effectively done in 2004. If it is the case that the economy is not strong enough to justify rate hikes, then the hike today may be the last one for some period of time. It will be important for the Fed to carefully assess the data as it makes its decision on interest rates at future meetings.

"Recent economic data suggest that today's move was a mistake. Hopefully the Fed will not compound this mistake with more unwarranted rate hikes in the future."

RC AKA Darryl, Ron said in reply to Peter K....

I like Dean Baker. Unlike the Fed, Dean Baker is a class warrior on the side of the wage class. He makes the point about the path to normalization being critical that I have been discussing for quite a while. Let's hope this Fed knows better than Greenspan/Bernanke in 2004-2006. THANKS!

likbez said in reply to RC AKA Darryl, Ron...

Very true !

pgl said in reply to RC AKA Darryl, Ron...

"Longer-term bond rates barely moved, showing that there was very little news." This interest rate rose from 4.45% to 5.46% already. So the damage was already done:

https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/BAA

RC AKA Darryl, Ron said in reply to pgl...

"... This interest rate rose from 4.45% to 5.46% already..."

Exactly! Corporate bond rates have been rising steadily since May. Yellen is not doing what Greenspan did in 2004. Yellen's Fed waited until the bond rate lifted off on its own (and maybe with some help from policy communications) before they raised the FFR.

So far, there is no sign of their making a fatal error. They are not fighting class warfare for wage class either, but they seem intent on not screwing the pooch in the way that Greenspan and Bernanke did. No double dip thank you and hold the nuts.

[May 10, 2021] Many layers of leverage stacked on top of each other increase the probability of dollar collapse

Notable quotes:
"... "It's just unbelievable that central banks are actively encouraging this." ..."
"... Good point. Many times we look at charts and say WTF but once you normalize to inflation, maybe this is not as bad as originally it appeared ..."
"... reminds me of an abusive husband telling his beaten wife, "See what you made me do!" ..."
"... Hussman says the right way to do that is to look at margin debt to GDP ration, which is a record. GDP is doubling rate is about every 20 years now at nominal 3.5% ..."
"... That description applies to most Wall Streeters and banksters, whose titanic egos are amazing given the fact that most are parasites that contribute less than a woodlouse to society. Still, I dread the coming US debt collapse discussed in this website, which I would term a debt explosion as all of the bubbles start to pop and so many debtors and former creditors (like lessors, banks, etc.) become publicly known to be legally insolvent. ..."
"... I have invested carefully but we will all lose much or most of our savings. ..."
"... It is very irritating to think of the trillions that the banksters' deceptively named, "Federal" Reserve has been transferring to its ultra-rich owners for decades. They will probably even avoid most taxation again. ..."
Apr 26, 2021 | wolfstreet.com

YuShan Apr 18, 2021 at 3:13 am

Exactly. It is way more scary than even Wolf's charts suggest because there are so many layers of leverage stacked on top of each other.

People taking out margin debt on stock portfolios that they bought by re-mortgaging their bubbled houses to buy stocks with record corporate debt, collaterised (if at all) with bubble assets, at record valuations driven itself by leverage etc etc

It's just unbelievable that central banks are actively encouraging this.

historicus Apr 18, 2021 at 5:06 am

"It's just unbelievable that central banks are actively encouraging this."

Indeed. It's QUITE believable that the politicians love the free money and would never be bold enough to say .

"Hey Fed. Your mandates say you are to FIGHT inflation (stable prices) NOT PROMOTE inflation."

Moosy Apr 17, 2021 at 6:13 pm

The amount of margin debt is not a WTF amount if you use the prices-double each 11 year rule of thumb.

This 11 year period is strikingly accurate if you take the price of the New York Times since 1900 (I have a booklet with frontpages of each year and discovered this when looking at the selling prices). Having said that, the current 800B is the same as the previous inflation corrected peaks of 2009 and around 1999.

So yes, Wolf is 100% correct with the prediction on what is coming. It is just not a WTF amount but a history-repeats-itself moment

ru82 Apr 17, 2021 at 11:45 pm

Good point. Many times we look at charts and say WTF but once you normalize to inflation, maybe this is not as bad as originally it appeared

cas127 Apr 18, 2021 at 5:06 am

"normalize to inflationary, maybe not as bad as originally it appeared"

I know what you mean, but then the (major) problem is that the inflation itself shouldn't be viewed as "normal". Kinda reminds me of a gvt program defending doubled budget over 8 yrs because of "inflation" when in point of fact it is likely that G printing/policy has *created* the inflation in the first place (to help fund the program now pointing at inflation).

Also, reminds me of an abusive husband telling his beaten wife, "See what you made me do!"

Old School Apr 19, 2021 at 6:08 am

Hussman says the right way to do that is to look at margin debt to GDP ration, which is a record. GDP is doubling rate is about every 20 years now at nominal 3.5%

K Apr 17, 2021 at 9:10 pm

That description applies to most Wall Streeters and banksters, whose titanic egos are amazing given the fact that most are parasites that contribute less than a woodlouse to society. Still, I dread the coming US debt collapse discussed in this website, which I would term a debt explosion as all of the bubbles start to pop and so many debtors and former creditors (like lessors, banks, etc.) become publicly known to be legally insolvent.

It is unfortunate that it may happen at the worst possible time, when we face an adversary worse and more powerful than the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany ever was. I have invested carefully but we will all lose much or most of our savings.

It is very irritating to think of the trillions that the banksters' deceptively named, "Federal" Reserve has been transferring to its ultra-rich owners for decades. They will probably even avoid most taxation again.

I do not like to even think how many Americans will wind up. Remember the saying "There but for the grace of god, go I." Many of us will be saying that a lot in the coming years if we are very fortunate.

[May 09, 2021] CPI Is A Lie! We can't trust CPI to tell us the truth about inflation by Peter Schiff

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... The CPI is calculated by analyzing the price of a "basket of goods." The makeup of that basket has a big impact on the final CPI number. According to WolfStreet , 10.9% of the CPI is based on durable goods (computers, automobiles, appliances, etc.). Nondurable goods (primarily food and energy) make up 26.6% of CPI. Services account for the remaining 62.5% of the basket. This includes rent, healthcare, cellphone service etc.) ..."
"... The things the government includes and excludes from the basket can make a profound difference in that final CPI number. Back in 1998, the government significantly revised the CPI metrics. Even the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) admitted the changes were "sweeping." ..."
"... In 1998, the BLS followed the recommendations of the Boskin Commission. It was appointed by the Senate in 1995. Initially called the "Advisory Commission to Study the Consumer Price Index," its job was to study possible bias in the computation of the CPI. Unsurprisingly, it determined that the index overstated inflation " by about 1.1% per year in 1996 and about 1.3% prior to 1996. The 1998 changes to CPI were meant to address this "issue." ..."
"... As Peter pointed out, there is a lot of geometric weighting, substitution and hedonics built into the calculation. The government can basically create an index that outputs whatever it wants. ..."
"... Peter said there is a bit of irony in government officials and central bankers constantly complaining about "not enough inflation." ..."
"... They're the ones that are cooking the books to pretend that inflation is lower than it really is. Because what they're really trying to do is get the go-ahead to produce more inflation, which is printing money." ..."
"... And there are other things that hide inflation. For instance, shrinking packaging so there is less product sold at the same price, or substituting lower quality ingredients, or requiring consumers to assemble items themselves. ..."
"... They find different ways to lower the quality and not increase the price, and I'm sure that the government is not picking up on any of that. If the quality improves, yeah, yeah, they calculate that. But they probably ignore all the circumstances where the quality is diminished." ..."
"... The bottom line is we can't trust CPI to tell us the truth about inflation. ..."
May 04, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Via SchiffGold.com,

We've been talking a lot about the specter of inflation. Despite the Fed's assurances not to worry because any price increases we're seeing are transitory, some people are indeed worried. A former JP Morgan managing director warned about inflation and echoed Peter Schiff's view that the central bank is powerless to fight it.

And we're seeing rising prices all over the place, from the grocery store to the gas station. Even the government numbers flash warning signs . But as Peter Schiff explains in this clip from an interview with Jay Martin, it's probably even worse than we realize because the government cooks the numbers when it calculates CPI.

The monthly rises in CPI through the first quarter show an upward trend. The CPI in January was up 0.3%. It was up 0.4% in February. And now it's up 0.6% in March. That totals a 1.013% increase in Q1 alone. The question is does this really reflect the truth about inflation? Peter doesn't think it does.

The government always makes changes to their methods of measuring things, whether it's GDP, or inflation, or unemployment. And they always tweak the numbers to produce a better result as a report card. "

https://www.youtube.com/embed/lnPrsBzIZsw

Imagine if students in a school had the ability to change the metrics by which they were graded or the methodology the teacher used to calculate their grades.

Would it surprise anybody that all of a sudden they started getting more As and Bs and fewer Cs and Ds? The government always wants to make the good stuff better, like economic growth, and the bad stuff better, like unemployment or inflation. So, they want to find ways to make those numbers little and the good numbers big."

The CPI is calculated by analyzing the price of a "basket of goods." The makeup of that basket has a big impact on the final CPI number. According to WolfStreet , 10.9% of the CPI is based on durable goods (computers, automobiles, appliances, etc.). Nondurable goods (primarily food and energy) make up 26.6% of CPI. Services account for the remaining 62.5% of the basket. This includes rent, healthcare, cellphone service etc.)

The things the government includes and excludes from the basket can make a profound difference in that final CPI number. Back in 1998, the government significantly revised the CPI metrics. Even the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) admitted the changes were "sweeping."

According to the BLS, periodic changes to the CPI calculation are necessary because "consumers change their preferences or new products and services emerge. During these occasions, the Bureau reexamines the CPI item structure, which is the classification scheme of the CPI market basket. The item structure is a central feature of the CPI program and many CPI processes depend on it."

In 1998, the BLS followed the recommendations of the Boskin Commission. It was appointed by the Senate in 1995. Initially called the "Advisory Commission to Study the Consumer Price Index," its job was to study possible bias in the computation of the CPI. Unsurprisingly, it determined that the index overstated inflation " by about 1.1% per year in 1996 and about 1.3% prior to 1996. The 1998 changes to CPI were meant to address this "issue."

As Peter pointed out, there is a lot of geometric weighting, substitution and hedonics built into the calculation. The government can basically create an index that outputs whatever it wants.

I think this period of "˜Oh wow! We have low inflation!' It's not a coincidence that it followed this major revision into how we calculate it."

Peter said there is a bit of irony in government officials and central bankers constantly complaining about "not enough inflation."

They're the ones that are cooking the books to pretend that inflation is lower than it really is. Because what they're really trying to do is get the go-ahead to produce more inflation, which is printing money."

Peter said the CPI will never reveal the true extent of rising prices.

And there are other things that hide inflation. For instance, shrinking packaging so there is less product sold at the same price, or substituting lower quality ingredients, or requiring consumers to assemble items themselves.

They find different ways to lower the quality and not increase the price, and I'm sure that the government is not picking up on any of that. If the quality improves, yeah, yeah, they calculate that. But they probably ignore all the circumstances where the quality is diminished."

The bottom line is we can't trust CPI to tell us the truth about inflation.

[May 09, 2021] 4 surprising stocks Goldman Sachs thinks could triumph over inflation by Brian Sozzi

Notable quotes:
"... "In a highly inflationary environment, we like the auto parts space with its unique ability to pass-through higher costs to customers given the non-discretionary nature of the category," says Goldman Sachs analyst Kate McShane. "For instance, in 2019, telegraphed prices increases to offset cost pressures arising from tariffs provided an incremental benefit to same-store sales growth and most auto parts retailers cited between 150-300 basis points of tariff-related inflation." ..."
May 05, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

If you are seeking stocks that could perform well during the inflationary environment the U.S. looks to be headed into as it recovers from the depths of the COVID-19 pandemic , Goldman Sachs suggests parking some money in auto parts retailers.

Yes, auto parts retailers.

The investment thesis is pretty straightforward. With mobility across the country picking up (see chart below) as people get vaccinated, cars will likely need more maintenance. That leaves auto parts retailers such as O'Reilly ( ORLY ), Genuine Parts Company ( GPC ), AutoZone ( AZO ) and Advance Auto Parts ( AAP ) in the enviable position of being able to pass inflation in everything from tires to car wax on to consumers and then post strong profits.

"In a highly inflationary environment, we like the auto parts space with its unique ability to pass-through higher costs to customers given the non-discretionary nature of the category," says Goldman Sachs analyst Kate McShane. "For instance, in 2019, telegraphed prices increases to offset cost pressures arising from tariffs provided an incremental benefit to same-store sales growth and most auto parts retailers cited between 150-300 basis points of tariff-related inflation."

McShane rounds out her bullish thesis on auto parts retailers by noting the main sector plays sport price-to-earnings multiples below historical averages. Of the four aforementioned auto parts retailers, AutoZone has the lowest forward price-to-earnings multiple of 18.7 times, according to Yahoo Finance Plus data .

Mobility is back on the move higher as people get vaccinated for COVID-19.

As for which name McShane is most bullish on, that award goes to Advance Auto Parts in the wake of a recent analyst day. McShane made the rare Wall Street move of upgrading her rating on Advance Auto Parts to Buy from Sell.

"Our double tier upgrade " from Sell to Buy " is predicated upon

McShane says.

[May 09, 2021] Inflation Risk Intensifies With Supply Shortages Multiplying

May 09, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

Signs of inflation are picking up, with a mounting number of consumer-facing companies warning in recent days that supply shortages and logistical logjams may force them to raise prices.

Tight inventories of materials as varied as semiconductors, steel, lumber and cotton are showing up in survey data, with manufacturers in Europe and the U.S. this week flagging record backlogs and higher input prices as they scramble to replenish stockpiles and keep up with accelerating consumer demand.

As commodities become increasingly expensive, whether faster inflation proves transitory -- or not -- is the biggest question for policy makers and markets. Rising prices and the potential for a response from central banks topped the list of concerns for money managers surveyed by Bank of America Corp.

Many economists and central bankers, from the Federal Reserve on down, maintain that price gains are temporary and will be curbed by forces such as virus worries and unemployment. Investors remain skeptical, with businesses including Nestle SA and Colgate-Palmolive Co. already announcing they’ll need to raise prices.

U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, a former Fed chair, entered the debate on Tuesday when she ruffled markets with the observation that rates will likely rise as government spending ramps up. She later clarified she was neither predicting nor recommending an increase.

The Bloomberg Commodity Spot Index, which tracks 23 raw materials, has risen to its highest level in almost a decade. That has pushed a gauge of global manufacturing output prices to its highest point since 2009, and U.S. producer prices to levels not seen since 2008, according to data from JPMorgan Chase & Co. and IHS Markit. JPMorgan analysts also estimate non-food and energy import prices in the biggest economies rose almost 4% in the first quarter, the most in three years.

“Risk clearly leans to the upside in the current environment,†said John Mothersole, pricing and purchasing research director at IHS Markit. “The surge in commodity prices over the past year now guarantees higher goods-price inflation this summer.â€

[May 09, 2021] Kolanovic Warns Most Money Managers at Risk of Inflation Shock

May 09, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

Money managers who’ve spent the bulk of their careers profiting from deflationary trends need to quickly switch gears or risk an “inflation shock†to their portfolios, warns JPMorgan Chase & Co. chief global markets strategist Marko Kolanovic.

“Many of today’s investment managers have never experienced a rise in yields, commodities, value stocks, or inflation in any meaningful way,†Kolanovic wrote in a report Wednesday. “A significant shift of allocations towards growth, ESG and low volatility styles over the past decade, all of which have negative correlation to inflation, left most portfolios vulnerable.â€

After staging a powerful rally since November amid vaccine rollouts and government stimulus, bets tied to inflation -- rising Treasury yields, cyclical stocks and small-caps, to name a few -- have taken pause in recent weeks. While that has sparked debate over how long the trend will persist, Kolanovic urged clients to adjust to the new regime amid the reopening of the global economy.

“Given the still high unemployment, and a decade of inflation undershoot, central banks will likely tolerate higher inflation and see it as temporary,†he wrote. “The question that matters the most is if asset managers will make a significant change in allocations to express an increased probability of a more persistent inflation.â€

The way Kolanovic sees it, as data continue to point to higher prices of goods and services, investors will be forced to shift from low-volatility plays to value stocks, while increasing allocations to direct inflation hedges such as commodities. That trend is likely to persist in the second half of the year, he wrote.

Based on JPMorgan’s data, professional investors have yet to fully embrace the reflation trade. Take equities, for instance. Both computer-driven traders and hedge funds now hold stocks at levels below historical averages.

“Portfolio managers likely will not take chances and will reposition portfolios,†Kolanovic wrote. “The interplay of low market liquidity, systematic and macro/fundamental flows, the sheer size of financial assets that need to be rotated or hedges for inflation put on, may cause outsized impact on inflationary and reflationary themes over the next year.â€

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[May 08, 2021] What's Behind the WTF Spike in Used-Vehicle Prices- My Gut Says, it Can't Last. But if it Lasts, It's Scary-Crazy Inflation -

May 08, 2021 | wolfstreet.com

And if it doesn't last after the stimmies are gone, dealers will sit on massively overpriced collateral, which could get messy.
By Wolf Richter for WOLF STREET .

This has been going on for months: Used-vehicle prices spiking from jaw-dropper to jaw-dropper, and just when I thought prices couldn't possibly spike further, they do.

Prices of used vehicles that were sold at auctions around the US in April spiked by 8.3% from March, by 20% year-to-date, by 54% from April 2020, and by 40% from April 2019, according to the Used Vehicle Value Index released today by Manheim, the largest auto auction operator in the US and a unit of Cox Automotive. All heck has broken loose in the used vehicle market:

The price spike has now completely blown by the prior record spike over the 13-month period through September 2009, which included the cash-for-clunkers program that removed a whole generation of serviceable older vehicles from the market.


makruger May 8, 2021 at 1:31 am

Curiously, the St. Louis Fed says used car prices have been pretty much flat for the last 25 years. While the last year of data shows a notable jump in prices, it's apparently been bludgeoned a little with some old fashioned hedonic quality adjustments.

Wolf Richter May 8, 2021 at 8:55 am

makruger,

I'll help you out since I've been covering this for years. So here is the correct link that explains it all, new vehicle CPI and used vehicle CPI (which is what you cited), plus "hedonic quality adjustments."

https://wolfstreet.com/2021/04/13/yup-dollars-purchasing-power-dropped-to-record-low-again-but-more-sharply-and-its-worse-than-cpi-shows/

And some relevant charts from that article:

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Scott May 8, 2021 at 1:34 am

I can see how the supply for these auctions will be tight for some time given that business travel and the resulting car rental usage is way down. In addition, I would expect a lot of corporate car purchasing is down considerably as many sales reps have worked remotely which stalled corporate car purchasing schedules.

[May 08, 2021] Inflation Is More of a Threat Than the Fed Says - WSJ

May 08, 2021 | www.wsj.com

Naples, Fla.

Messrs. Levy and Bordo allude to the sharp drop in the velocity of M2 after the 2007-09 crisis. The actual decline is startling. In the first quarter of 2007 M2 velocity was 1.99, by the first quarter of 2020 it had fallen almost continually to 1.38. In other words, the money stock went from turning over twice a year to under 1.4 times a year. This is the primary reason for the very low inflation over the period.

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Because of the Covid lockdowns, M2 fell even further to 1.13 by the fourth quarter of 2020. As the authors point out, conditions are much different today than in 2007-20 because of boosted bank reserves, households with substantial savings ready to spend and commercial banks in good shape and eager to lend. Unless an economy-wide lockdown occurs, these are very good reasons to believe the velocity of money will increase significantly, just as the 27% surge in M2 since the outbreak of the pandemic works its way through the economy.

This is a prescription for major inflation, perhaps 4%-5% in the next two years. When people say "no way," I remind them that in the early 1980s hardly anyone believed that interest rates would ever return to 1950s levels. While many individuals prefer to trend forecast, never underestimate how inflation (and interest rates) can swing back and forth in ways that amaze.

Em. Prof. Stephen Happel

Arizona State University

Tempe, Ariz.

Messrs. Levy and Bordo might have made an equally compelling case about the Fed being in total denial about the more troubling risk: that its policies have been contributing to a global asset-price and credit-market bubble.

By maintaining ultralow interest rates and by continuing to expand its balance by $120 billion a month, even when the economy could soon be overheating and U.S. equity valuations are close to their all-time highs, the Fed risks further inflating the asset-price bubble. By so doing, it is heightening the chances of a hard economic landing when the Fed is eventually forced to slam on the monetary-policy brakes to meet its inflation objective.

Desmond Lachman

American Enterprise Institute

Washington

Why did the money supply hardly budge in 2008, whereas now it's steadily increasing? The answer is that during the financial crisis the Fed conducted a radical experiment: It paid banks not to lend. By design, quantitative easing shored up banks' balance sheets while interest on excess reserves prevented the newly created money from circulating.

In March 2020, the Fed slashed interest on excess reserves from 1.60% to 0.10%. The benefits of sitting on funds is much smaller, which is why lending has increased.

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Messrs. Levy and Bordo emphasize structural factors in the U.S. economy, such as housing and trade. These matter, but not nearly so much as policy. Inflationary pressures will continue if the Fed's asset purchases increase the broader money supply. But this depends on whether the Fed raises interest on excess reserves to prepandemic levels.

For better or worse, interest on excess reserves is now a crucial policy tool. We can't understand inflation without it.

Assoc. Prof. Alexander William Salter

Texas Tech University

Lubbock, Texas

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Appeared in the May 5, 2021, print edition as 'Inflation Is More of a Threat Than Fed Says.'

[May 08, 2021] Yellen and the Fed are currently repeating one of the most disturbing episodes of U.S. economic history. It happened during the 1940s following the conclusion of WWII

May 08, 2021 | www.wsj.com

SUBSCRIBER 3 hours ago Yellen and the Fed are currently repeating one of the most disturbing episodes of U.S. economic history. It happened during the 1940s following the conclusion of WWII.

The Fed is riding a tiger by the tail and will likely have great difficulty extricating itself from a torrid monetary experiment that is reaching its limits. The U.S. M4 money supply rose an alarming 24% in March alone from a year earlier whereas M1 rose 37%. Notwithstanding these shocking numbers the Fed continues to buy $120bn of bonds each month and the total amount of money in circulation is exploding at an unprecedented 40% rate.

Professor William Barnett of the Center for Financial Stability in New York explained that today's financial collusion between the Fed and the Treasury is much like the 1940s when the Fed served as a fiscal agent for Democratic administrations. The chaotic aftermath? By mid-1947 the rate of inflation exceeded 17% per year - destroying low income households.

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Yellen and the Fed are currently repeating one of the most disturbing episodes of U.S. economic history. It happened during the 1940s following the conclusion of WWII

SUBSCRIBER 3 hours ago
Yellen and the Fed are currently repeating one of the most disturbing episodes of U.S. economic history. It happened during the 1940s following the conclusion of WWII.

The Fed is riding a tiger by the tail and will likely have great difficulty extricating itself from a torrid monetary experiment that is reaching its limits. The U.S. M4 money supply rose an alarming 24% in March alone from a year earlier whereas M1 rose 37%. Notwithstanding these shocking numbers the Fed continues to buy $120bn of bonds each month and the total amount of money in circulation is exploding at an unprecedented 40% rate.

Professor William Barnett of the Center for Financial Stability in New York explained that today's financial collusion between the Fed and the Treasury is much like the 1940s when the Fed served as a fiscal agent for Democratic administrations. The chaotic aftermath? By mid-1947 the rate of inflation exceeded 17% per year - destroying low income households.

(Cont.)

Yellen and the Fed are currently repeating one of the most disturbing episodes of U.S. economic history. It happened during the 1940s following the conclusion of WWII SUBSCRIBER 3 hours ago
Yellen and the Fed are currently repeating one of the most disturbing episodes of U.S. economic history. It happened during the 1940s following the conclusion of WWII.

The Fed is riding a tiger by the tail and will likely have great difficulty extricating itself from a torrid monetary experiment that is reaching its limits. The U.S. M4 money supply rose an alarming 24% in March alone from a year earlier whereas M1 rose 37%. Notwithstanding these shocking numbers the Fed continues to buy $120bn of bonds each month and the total amount of money in circulation is exploding at an unprecedented 40% rate.

Professor William Barnett of the Center for Financial Stability in New York explained that today's financial collusion between the Fed and the Treasury is much like the 1940s when the Fed served as a fiscal agent for Democratic administrations. The chaotic aftermath? By mid-1947 the rate of inflation exceeded 17% per year - destroying low income households.

(Cont.)

Yellen and the Fed are currently repeating one of the most disturbing episodes of U.S. economic history. It happened during the 1940s following the conclusion of WWII
Yellen and the Fed are currently repeating one of the most disturbing episodes of U.S. economic history. It happened during the 1940s following the conclusion of WWII.

The Fed is riding a tiger by the tail and will likely have great difficulty extricating itself from a torrid monetary experiment that is reaching its limits. The U.S. M4 money supply rose an alarming 24% in March alone from a year earlier whereas M1 rose 37%. Notwithstanding these shocking numbers the Fed continues to buy $120bn of bonds each month and the total amount of money in circulation is exploding at an unprecedented 40% rate.

Professor William Barnett of the Center for Financial Stability in New York explained that today's financial collusion between the Fed and the Treasury is much like the 1940s when the Fed served as a fiscal agent for Democratic administrations. The chaotic aftermath? By mid-1947 the rate of inflation exceeded 17% per year - destroying low income households.

(Cont.)

Yellen and the Fed are currently repeating one of the most disturbing episodes of U.S. economic history. It happened during the 1940s following the conclusion of WWII
Yellen and the Fed are currently repeating one of the most disturbing episodes of U.S. economic history. It happened during the 1940s following the conclusion of WWII.

The Fed is riding a tiger by the tail and will likely have great difficulty extricating itself from a torrid monetary experiment that is reaching its limits. The U.S. M4 money supply rose an alarming 24% in March alone from a year earlier whereas M1 rose 37%. Notwithstanding these shocking numbers the Fed continues to buy $120bn of bonds each month and the total amount of money in circulation is exploding at an unprecedented 40% rate.

Professor William Barnett of the Center for Financial Stability in New York explained that today's financial collusion between the Fed and the Treasury is much like the 1940s when the Fed served as a fiscal agent for Democratic administrations. The chaotic aftermath? By mid-1947 the rate of inflation exceeded 17% per year - destroying low income households.

(Cont.)

[May 08, 2021] President Biden and Secretary Yellen said this week there is no significant inflation

May 08, 2021 | www.wsj.com

President Biden and Secretary Yellen said this week there is no significant inflation

Carlos Lumpuy
President Biden and Secretary Yellen said this week there is no significant inflation.
On May 7 of last year, the metric standard of lumber, 1,000 board feet was $360 . Today it's $1,702 a record high. It broke $1,000 first time ever a month ago on April 7.
That's a 70% increase in lumber in just the last 30 days.
Copper was $2.33 on May 7 of last year. Today, $4.76 a record high.
Steel Rebar was $3,768 on May 7 of last year. Today: $5,483 , record high.
President Biden and Secretary Yellen said this week there is no significant inflation .
Tell that to a builder, his subcontractors, and the buyer of a newly built home this summer.
Food prices for Corn, Wheat, Soybeans, Rice, Milk, Coffee, Cocoa are up double digits in just the last two months.
Vice President Harris ignored a question about inflation with her regular everyday cackle laughing as she walked away.
We are in month four of this administration that prioritizes its war on the wind and the weather.
Figures are from Yahoo Finance
President Biden and Secretary Yellen said this week there is no significant inflation Carlos Lumpuy
President Biden and Secretary Yellen said this week there is no significant inflation.
On May 7 of last year, the metric standard of lumber, 1,000 board feet was $360 . Today it's $1,702 a record high. It broke $1,000 first time ever a month ago on April 7.
That's a 70% increase in lumber in just the last 30 days.
Copper was $2.33 on May 7 of last year. Today, $4.76 a record high.
Steel Rebar was $3,768 on May 7 of last year. Today: $5,483 , record high.
President Biden and Secretary Yellen said this week there is no significant inflation .
Tell that to a builder, his subcontractors, and the buyer of a newly built home this summer.
Food prices for Corn, Wheat, Soybeans, Rice, Milk, Coffee, Cocoa are up double digits in just the last two months.
Vice President Harris ignored a question about inflation with her regular everyday cackle laughing as she walked away.
We are in month four of this administration that prioritizes its war on the wind and the weather.
Figures are from Yahoo Finance

[May 07, 2021] Goldman, Pimco Detect Irrational Inflation Mania in Bonds

May 07, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and bond titan Pacific Investment Management Co. have a simple message for Treasuries traders fretting over inflation: Relax.

The firms estimate that bond traders who are pricing in annual inflation approaching 3% over the next handful of years are overstating the pressures bubbling up as the U.S. economy rebounds from the pandemic.

...the overshoot could be as large as 0.2-to-0.3 percentage point. That gap makes a difference with key market proxies of inflation expectations for the coming few years surging this week to the highest in more than a decade. The 10-year measure, perhaps the most closely followed, eclipsed 2.5% Friday for the first time since 2013, even after unexpectedly weak U.S. jobs data.

There's at least one market metric that backs up the view that the pressures, which have been building for months, aren't about to get out of hand and may even prove temporary. A swaps instrument that reflects the annual inflation rate for the second half of the next decade has been relatively stable in recent months.

...The Federal Reserve has been hammering home that it sees any spike in price pressures as likely short-lived, and that it's willing to let inflation run above target for a period as the economy revives.

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... Inflation worries have been mounting against a backdrop of soaring commodities prices -- copper, for example, set a record high Friday. It's all happening as lawmakers in Washington debate another massive fiscal-stimulus package.

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Korapaty calls the outlook for inflation "benign." His view is that the market is overly optimistic with its inflation assumptions, with the greatest mismatch to be found on the three- and five-year horizon. At roughly 2.75% and 2.7%, respectively, those rates are around 20 to 30 basis points higher than they should be, in his estimate.

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...Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen stirred markets by saying interest rates will likely rise as government spending swells and the economy achieves faster growth. She walked back the remarks hours later.

... "Because we think front-end rates are pricing in a more aggressive Fed path than we believe, we do like shorter-dated nominal bonds, and think there's value there," she said.

[May 05, 2021] Mark Blyth " An Inflated Fear of Inflation ?

May 01, 2021 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

Yves here. Mark Blyth is such a treat. How can you not be a fan of the man who coined "The Hamptons are not a defensible position"? Even though he's not always right, he's so incisive and has such a strong point of view that his occasional questionable notions serve as fodder for thought. And I suspect he'll be proven correct on his topic today, the inflation bugaboo. Yves here. Mark Blyth is such a treat. How can you not be a fan of the man who coined "The Hamptons are not a defensible position"? Even though he's not always right, he's so incisive and has such a strong point of view that his occasional questionable notions serve as fodder for thought. And I suspect he'll be proven correct on his topic today, the inflation bugaboo. Even though he's not always right, he's so incisive and has such a strong point of view that his occasional questionable notions serve as fodder for thought. And I suspect he'll be proven correct on his topic today, the inflation bugaboo. Even though he's not always right, he's so incisive and has such a strong point of view that his occasional questionable notions serve as fodder for thought. And I suspect he'll be proven correct on his topic today, the inflation bugaboo. By Paul Jay.

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Paul Jay
And is the idea that inflation is about to come roaring back one of the stupid ideas that you're talking about? And is the idea that inflation is about to come roaring back one of the stupid ideas that you're talking about?
Mark Blyth
I hope that it is, but I'm going to go with Larry on this one. He says it's about one third chance that it's going to do this. I'd probably give it about one in ten, so it's not impossible.

So, let's unpack why we're going to see this. Can you generate inflation? Yeah. I mean, dead easy. Imagine your Turkey. Why not be a kind of Turkish pseudo dictator?

Why not fire the head of your central bank in an economy that's basically dependent on other people valuing your assets and giving you money through capital flows? And then why don't you fire the central bank head and put in charge your brother-in-law? I think it was his brother-in-law. And then insist that low interest rates cure inflation. And then watch as the value of your currency, the lira collapses, which means all the stuff you import is massively expensive, which means that people will pay more, and the general level of all prices will go up, which is an inflation. So, can you generate an inflation in the modern world? Sure, yeah. Easy. Just be an idiot, right? Now, does this apply to the United States? No. That's where it gets entirely different. So, a couple of things to think about (first). So, you mentioned that huge number of 20 trillion dollars. Well, that's more or less about two thirds of what we threw into the global economy after the global financial crisis, and inflation singularly failed to show up. All those people in 2010 screaming about inflation and China dumping bonds and all that. Totally wrong. Completely wrong. No central bank that's got a brass nameplate worth a damn has managed to hit its inflation target of two percent in over a decade. All that would imply that there is a huge amount of what we call "˜slack' in the economy. (Also) think about the fact that we've had, since the 1990s, across the OECD, by any measure, full employment. That is to say, most people who want a job can actually find one, and at the same time, despite that, there has been almost no price pressure coming from wages, pushing on into prices, to push up inflation. So rather than the so-called vertical Phillips curve, which most of modern macro is based upon, whereby there's a kind of speed bump for the economy, and if the government spends money, it can't push this curve out, all it can do is push it up in terms of prices. What we seem to actually have is one whereby you can have a constant level of inflation, which is very low, and any amount of unemployment you want from 2 percent to 12 percent, depending on where you look and in which time-period.

All of which suggests that at least for big developed, open, globalized economies, where you've destroyed trade unions, busted up national product cartels, globally integrated your markets, and added 600 million people to the global labor supply, you just can't generate inflation very easily. Now, we're running, depending on how much actually passes, a two to five trillion-dollar experiment on which theory of inflation is right. This one, or is it this one? That's basically what we're doing just now. Larry's given it one in three that it's his one. I'd give it one in ten his one's right. Now, if I may just go on just for a seconds longer. This is where the politics of this gets interesting. Most people don't understand what inflation is. You get all this stuff talked by economists and central bankers about inflation and expectations and all that, but you go out and survey people and they have no idea what the damn thing is. Think about the fact that most people talk about house price inflation.

There is no such thing as house price inflation. Inflation is a general rise in the level of all prices. A sustained rise in the level of prices. The fact that house prices in Toronto have gone up is because Canada stopped building public housing in the 1980s and turned it into an asset class and let the 10 percent top earners buy it all and swap it with each other. That is singularly not an inflation. So, what's going to happen coming out of Covid is there will be a big pickup in spending, a pickup in employment. I think it's (going to be) less than people expect because the people with the money are not going to go out and spend it because they have all they want already. There are only so many Sub-Zero fridges you can buy. Meanwhile, the bottom 60 percent of the income distribution are too busy paying back debt from the past year to go on a spending spree, but there definitely will be a pickup. Now, does that mean that there's going to be what we used to call bottlenecks? Yeah, because basically firms run down inventory because they're in the middle of a bloody recession. Does it mean that there are going to be supply chain problems? Yes, we see this with computer chips. So, what's going to happen is that computer chips are going to go up in price.

So, lots of individual things are going to go up in price, and what's going to happen is people are going to go "there's the inflation, there's that terrible inflation," and it's not. It's just basically short-term factors that will dissipate after 18 months. That is my bet. For Larry to be right what would have to be true?

That we would have to have the institutions, agreements, labor markets and product markets of the 1970s. We don't.

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So, I just don't actually see what the generator of inflation would be. We are not Turkey dependent on capital imports for our survival with a currency that's falling off a cliff. That is entirely different. That import mechanism, which is the way that most countries these days get a bit of inflation. That simply doesn't apply in the U.S. So, with my money on it, if I had to bet, it's one in 10 Larry's right, rather one in 3.

Paul Jay
The other point he raises, and we talked a little bit about this in a previous interview, but let's revisit it, is that the size of the American debt, even if it isn't inflationary at some point, creates some kind of crisis of confidence in the dollar being the reserve currency of the world, and so this big infrastructure spending is a problem because of that. That's part of, I believe, one of his arguments. The other point he raises, and we talked a little bit about this in a previous interview, but let's revisit it, is that the size of the American debt, even if it isn't inflationary at some point, creates some kind of crisis of confidence in the dollar being the reserve currency of the world, and so this big infrastructure spending is a problem because of that. That's part of, I believe, one of his arguments.
Mark Blyth
The way political economists look at the financial plumbing, I think, is different to the way that macro economists do. We see it rather differently. The first thing is, what's your alternative to the dollar unless you're basically going to go all-in on gold or bitcoin? And good luck with those. If we go into a crushing recession and our bond market collapses, don't think that Europe's going to be a safe haven given that they've got half the US growth rate. And we could talk about what Europe's got going on post-pandemic because it's not that good. So what's your alternative (to the Dollar)? Buy yen? No, not really. You're going to buy Chinese assets? Well, good luck, and given the way that their country is being run at the moment, if you ever want to take your capital out. I'm not sure that's going to work for you, even if you could. So you're kind of stuck with it. Mechanically there's another problem. All of the countries that make surpluses in the world make surpluses because we run deficits. One has to balance the other. So, when you're a Chinese firm selling to the United States, which is probably an American firm in China with Chinese subcontractors selling to the United States, what happens is they get paid in dollars. When they receive those dollars in China, they don't let them into the domestic banking system. They sterilize them and they turn them into the local currency, which is why China has all these (dollar) reserves. That's their national savings. Would you like to burn your reserves in a giant pile? Well, one way to do that would be to dump American debt, which would be equivalent to burning your national savings. If you're a firm, what do you do? Well, you basically have to use dollars for your invoicing. You have to use dollars for your purchasing, and you keep accumulating dollars, which you hand back to your central bank, which then hands you the domestic currency. The central bank then has a problem because it's got a liability " (foreign) cash rather than an asset. So, what's the easiest asset to buy? Buy another 10-year Treasury bill, rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat. So, if we were to actually have that type of crisis of confidence, the people who would actually suffer would be the Germans and the Chinese, because their export-driven models only makes sense in terms of the deficits that we run. Think of it as kind of monetarily assured destruction because the plumbing works this way. I just don't see how you can have that crisis of confidence because you've got nowhere else to take your confidence.
Paul Jay
If I understand it correctly, the majority of American government debt is held by Americans, so it's actually really the wealth is still inside the United States. I saw a number, this was done three or four years ago, maybe, but I think it was Brookings Institute, that assets after liabilities in private hands in the United States is something like 98 trillion dollars. So I don't get where this crisis of confidence is going to come any time soon. If I understand it correctly, the majority of American government debt is held by Americans, so it's actually really the wealth is still inside the United States. I saw a number, this was done three or four years ago, maybe, but I think it was Brookings Institute, that assets after liabilities in private hands in the United States is something like 98 trillion dollars. So I don't get where this crisis of confidence is going to come any time soon.
Mark Blyth
Basically, if your economy grows faster (than the rest of the world because you are) the technological leader, your stock markets grows faster than the others. If you're an international investor, you want access to that. (That ends) only if there were actual real deep economic problems (for the US), like, for example, China invents fusion energy and gives it free to the world. That would definitely screw up Texas. But short of that, it's hard to see exactly what would be these game-changers that would result in this. And of course, this is where the Bitcoin people come in. It's all about crypto, and nobody has any faith in the dollar, and all this sort of stuff. Well, I don't see why we have faith in something (like that instead . I think it was just last week. There wasn't much reporting on this, I don't know if you caught this, but there were some twenty-nine-year-old dude ran a crypto exchange. I can't remember where it was. Maybe somewhere like Turkey. But basically he had two billion in crypto and he just walked off with the cash. You don't walk off with the Fed, but you could walk off with a crypto exchange. So until those problems are basically sorted out, the notion that we can all jump into a digital currency, which at the end of the day, to buy anything, you need to turn back into a physical currency because you don't buy your coffee with crypto, we're back to that (old) problem. How do you get out of the dollar? That structural feature is incredibly important.
Paul Jay
So there's some critique of the Biden infrastructure plan and some of the other stimulus, coming from the left, because, one, the left more or less agrees with what you said about inflation, and the critique is that it's actually not big enough, and let me add to that. I'm kind of a little bit surprised, maybe not anymore, but Wall Street on the whole, not Larry Summers and a few others, but most of them actually seem quite in support of the Biden plan. You don't hear a lot of screaming about inflation from Wall Street. Maybe from the Republicans, but not from listening to Bloomberg Radio. So there's some critique of the Biden infrastructure plan and some of the other stimulus, coming from the left, because, one, the left more or less agrees with what you said about inflation, and the critique is that it's actually not big enough, and let me add to that. I'm kind of a little bit surprised, maybe not anymore, but Wall Street on the whole, not Larry Summers and a few others, but most of them actually seem quite in support of the Biden plan. You don't hear a lot of screaming about inflation from Wall Street. Maybe from the Republicans, but not from listening to Bloomberg Radio.
Mark Blyth
You don't even hear a lot of screaming about corporate taxes, which is fascinating, right? You'd think they'd be up in arms about this? I actually spoke to a business audience recently about this, and I kind of did an informal survey and I said, "why are you guys not up in arms about this?" And someone that was on the call said, "well, you know, the Warren Buffet line about you find out who's swimming naked when the tide goes out? What if a lot of firms that we think are great firms are just really good at tax optimization? What if those profits are really just contingent on that? That would be really nice to know this because then we could stop investing in them and invest in better stuff that actually does things." You don't even hear a lot of screaming about corporate taxes, which is fascinating, right? You'd think they'd be up in arms about this? I actually spoke to a business audience recently about this, and I kind of did an informal survey and I said, "why are you guys not up in arms about this?" And someone that was on the call said, "well, you know, the Warren Buffet line about you find out who's swimming naked when the tide goes out? What if a lot of firms that we think are great firms are just really good at tax optimization? What if those profits are really just contingent on that? That would be really nice to know this because then we could stop investing in them and invest in better stuff that actually does things."
Paul Jay
And pick up the pieces of what's left of them for a penny if they have to go down. And pick up the pieces of what's left of them for a penny if they have to go down.
Mark Blyth
Absolutely. Just one thought that we'll circle back, to the left does not think it's big enough, etc. Well, yes, of course they wouldn't, and this is one of those things whereby you kind of have to check yourself. I give the inflation problem a one in ten. But what I'm really dispassionately trying to do is to look at this as just a problem. My political preferences lie on the side of "˜the state should do more.' They lie on the side of "˜I think we should have higher real wages.' They lay on the side that says that "˜populism is something that can be fixed if the bottom 60 percent actually had some kind of growth.' So, therefore, I like programs that do that. Psychologically, I am predisposed therefore to discount inflation. I'm totally discounting that because that's my priors and I'm really deeply trying to check this. In this debate, it's always worth bearing in mind, no one's doing that. The Republicans and the right are absolutely going to be hell bent on inflation, not because they necessarily really believe in (inevitable) inflation, (but) because it's a useful way to stop things happening. And then for the left to turn around and say, well, it isn't big enough, (is because you might as well play double or quits because, you know, you've got Biden and that's the best that's going to get. So there's a way in which when we really are trying to figure out these things, we kind of have to check our partisan preferences because they basically multiply the errors in our thinking, I think.
Paul Jay
Now, earlier you said that one of the main factors why inflation is structurally low now, I don't know if you said exactly those words. Now, earlier you said that one of the main factors why inflation is structurally low now, I don't know if you said exactly those words.
Mark Blyth
I would say that yes. I would say that yes.
Paul Jay
Is the weakness of the unions, the weakness of workers in virtually all countries, but particularly in the U.S., because it matters so much. That organizing of workers is just, they're so unable to raise their wages over decades of essentially wages that barely keep up with inflation and don't grow in any way, certainly not in any relationship to the way productivity has grown. So we as progressives, well, we want workers to get better organized. We want stronger unions. We want higher wages, but we want it without inflation. Is the weakness of the unions, the weakness of workers in virtually all countries, but particularly in the U.S., because it matters so much. That organizing of workers is just, they're so unable to raise their wages over decades of essentially wages that barely keep up with inflation and don't grow in any way, certainly not in any relationship to the way productivity has grown. So we as progressives, well, we want workers to get better organized. We want stronger unions. We want higher wages, but we want it without inflation.
Mark Blyth
And it's a question of how much room you have to do that. I mean, essentially, if you quintuple the money supply, eventually prices will have to rise"¦but that depends upon the velocity of money which has actually been collapsing. So maybe you'd have to do it 10 times. There's interesting research out of London, which I saw a couple of weeks ago, that basically says you really can't correlate inflation with increases in the money supply. It's just not true. It's not the money that's doing it. It's the expectations. That then begs the question, well, who's actually paying attention if we all don't really understand what inflation is? So I tend to think of this as basically a kind of a physical process. It's very easy to understand if your currency goes down by 50 percent and you're heavily dependent on imports. You're import (prices) go up. All the prices in the shops are going to go up. That's a mechanism that I can clearly identify that will generate rising prices. If you have big unions, if you have kind of cartel-like vertically integrated firms that control the national market, if you have COLA contracts. If you have labor able to do what we used to call leapfrogging wage claims against other unions, if this is all institutionally and legally protected, I can see how that generates inflation, that is a mechanism I can point to. That doesn't exist just now. Let's unpack this for a minute. The sort of fundamental theoretical assumption on this is based is some kind of "˜marginal productivity theory of wages.' In a perfectly free market with free exchange, in which we don't live, what would happen is you would hire me up to the point that my marginal product is basically paying off for you, and once it produces zero profits, that's kind of where my wages end. I'm paid up to the point that my marginal product is useful to the firm. This is not really a useful way of thinking about it because if you're the employer and I'm the worker, and I walk up to you and say, hey, my marginal productivity is seven, so how about you pay me seven bucks? You just say, shut up or I'll fire you and get someone else. Now, the way that we used to deal with this was a kind of "˜higher than your outside option,' on wages. The way we used to think about this was "why would you pay somebody ten bucks at McDonald's?" Because then you might actually get them to and flip the burgers because they're outside option is probably seven bucks, and if you pay them seven bucks, they just won't show up. So we used to have to pay workers a bit more. So that was, in a sense, (workers) claiming (a bit of the surplus) from productivity. But now what we've done, Suresh Naidu the economist was talking about this the other day, is we have all these technologies for surveilling workers (instead of paying them more). So now what we can do is take that difference between seven and ten and just pocket it because we can actually pay workers at your outside option, because I monitor everything you do, and if you don't do exactly what I say I'll fire you, and get somebody else for seven bucks. So all the mechanisms for the sharing of sharing productivity, unions, technology, now lies in the hands of employers. It's all going against labor. So (as a result) we have this fiction that somehow when the economy grows, our productivity goes up, and workers share in that. Again, what's the mechanism? Once you take out unions and once you weaponize the ability of employers to extract surplus through mechanisms like technology, franchising, all the rest of it, then it just tilts the playing field so much that we just don't see any increase in wages. (Now) let's bring this back to inflation. Unless you see systematic (and sustained) increases in the real wage that increases costs for firms to the point that they need to push on prices, I just don't see the mechanism for generating inflation. It just isn't there. And we've underpaid the bottom 60 percent of the U.S. labor market so long it would take a hell of a lot of wage inflation to get there, with or without unions.
Paul Jay
Yeah, what's that number, that if the minimum wage was adjusted for inflation and it was what the minimum wage was, what, 30 years ago, the minimum wage would be somewhere between 25 and 30 bucks, and that wasn't causing raging inflation. Yeah, what's that number, that if the minimum wage was adjusted for inflation and it was what the minimum wage was, what, 30 years ago, the minimum wage would be somewhere between 25 and 30 bucks, and that wasn't causing raging inflation.
Mark Blyth
And there is that RAND study from November 2020 that was adeninely entitled, "˜Trends in Income 1979 to 2020,' and they calculated, and I think this is the number, but even if I'm off, the order of magnitude is there, that transfers, because of tax and regulatory changes, from the 90th percentile of the distribution to the 10 percentile, totalled something in the order of $34 trillion. That's how much was vacuumed up and practically nothing trickled down. So when you consider that as a mechanism of extraction, why are worrying about inflation (from wages)? The best story on inflation is actually Charles Goodhart's book that came out last year. We got a long period of low inflation because of global supply chains, and because of demographic trends. It's a combination of global supply chains, Chinese labor, and demographics all coming together to basically push down labor costs, and that's why you get this long period of deflation, which leads to rising profits and zero inflation. A perfectly reasonable way of explaining it. And his point is that, well, that's coming to an end. The demographics are shifting, or shrinking. We're going back to more closed economies. You're going to create this inflation problem again. OK, what's the timeline on that? About 20 years? A few years ago, we were told we had 12 years to fix the climate problem or we're in deep shit. If we have to face the climate problem versus single to double-digit inflation, I'm left wondering what is the real problem here? And there is that RAND study from November 2020 that was adeninely entitled, "˜Trends in Income 1979 to 2020,' and they calculated, and I think this is the number, but even if I'm off, the order of magnitude is there, that transfers, because of tax and regulatory changes, from the 90th percentile of the distribution to the 10 percentile, totalled something in the order of $34 trillion. That's how much was vacuumed up and practically nothing trickled down. So when you consider that as a mechanism of extraction, why are worrying about inflation (from wages)? The best story on inflation is actually Charles Goodhart's book that came out last year. We got a long period of low inflation because of global supply chains, and because of demographic trends. It's a combination of global supply chains, Chinese labor, and demographics all coming together to basically push down labor costs, and that's why you get this long period of deflation, which leads to rising profits and zero inflation. A perfectly reasonable way of explaining it. And his point is that, well, that's coming to an end. The demographics are shifting, or shrinking. We're going back to more closed economies. You're going to create this inflation problem again. OK, what's the timeline on that? About 20 years? A few years ago, we were told we had 12 years to fix the climate problem or we're in deep shit. If we have to face the climate problem versus single to double-digit inflation, I'm left wondering what is the real problem here? The best story on inflation is actually Charles Goodhart's book that came out last year. We got a long period of low inflation because of global supply chains, and because of demographic trends. It's a combination of global supply chains, Chinese labor, and demographics all coming together to basically push down labor costs, and that's why you get this long period of deflation, which leads to rising profits and zero inflation. A perfectly reasonable way of explaining it. And his point is that, well, that's coming to an end. The demographics are shifting, or shrinking. We're going back to more closed economies. You're going to create this inflation problem again. OK, what's the timeline on that? About 20 years? A few years ago, we were told we had 12 years to fix the climate problem or we're in deep shit. If we have to face the climate problem versus single to double-digit inflation, I'm left wondering what is the real problem here? The best story on inflation is actually Charles Goodhart's book that came out last year. We got a long period of low inflation because of global supply chains, and because of demographic trends. It's a combination of global supply chains, Chinese labor, and demographics all coming together to basically push down labor costs, and that's why you get this long period of deflation, which leads to rising profits and zero inflation. A perfectly reasonable way of explaining it. And his point is that, well, that's coming to an end. The demographics are shifting, or shrinking. We're going back to more closed economies. You're going to create this inflation problem again. OK, what's the timeline on that? About 20 years? A few years ago, we were told we had 12 years to fix the climate problem or we're in deep shit. If we have to face the climate problem versus single to double-digit inflation, I'm left wondering what is the real problem here? OK, what's the timeline on that? About 20 years? A few years ago, we were told we had 12 years to fix the climate problem or we're in deep shit. If we have to face the climate problem versus single to double-digit inflation, I'm left wondering what is the real problem here? OK, what's the timeline on that? About 20 years? A few years ago, we were told we had 12 years to fix the climate problem or we're in deep shit. If we have to face the climate problem versus single to double-digit inflation, I'm left wondering what is the real problem here? A few years ago, we were told we had 12 years to fix the climate problem or we're in deep shit. If we have to face the climate problem versus single to double-digit inflation, I'm left wondering what is the real problem here? A few years ago, we were told we had 12 years to fix the climate problem or we're in deep shit. If we have to face the climate problem versus single to double-digit inflation, I'm left wondering what is the real problem here?

cocomaan , , May 1, 2021 at 7:24 am

Great piece. He put to words something I've thought about but couldn't articulate: if wages are stagnant, how could you possibly get broad based inflation?

There is no upward pressure on labor costs anywhere in the economy. The pressures are all downward.

You would need government spending in the order of magnitudes to drive up wages. Or release from a lot of debt, like student loan forgiveness or what have you.

Left in Wisconsin , , May 1, 2021 at 2:06 pm

I'm not sure you need wage growth to get inflation. As Blyth notes, most of the time inflation is a currency or a monetary issue. In the 70s, it was initially an oil thing " and oil flows through a lot of products " and then really went crazy only when Volker started raising interest rates. I don't think there is an episode of "wage-push" inflation in history. (The union cost-of-living clauses don't "cause" inflation, they only adjust for past inflation. If unions can cause wage-push inflation, someone needs to explain how they did this in the late 70s, when they were much less powerful and unemployment was substantially higher, than in the 1950s.) One could argue that expansive fiscal policy might drive inflation but, even then, the mechanism is through price increases, not wage increases. You do need consumption but that can always come from the wealthy and further debt immiseration of the rest of us.

Adam Eran , , May 1, 2021 at 2:51 pm

Blythe is one of those guys who is *almost* correct. For example he declares that expectations drive inflation. What about genuine shortages? The most recent U.S. big inflation stemmed from OPEC withholding oil"a shortage we answered by increasing the price ($1.75/bbl in 1971 -> $42/bbl in 1982). In Germany, the hyperinflation was driven by the French invading the Ruhr, something roughly like shutting down Ohio in the U.S. A shortage of goods resulted. Inflation! In Zimbabwe, the Rhodesian (white) farmers left, and the natives who took over their farms were not producing enough food. A shortage of food, requiring imports, resulted. Inflation!

I guess you could say people in Zimbabwe "expected" food"¦but that's not standard English.

JFYI, Blythe is not a fan of MMT. He calls it "annoying." Yep, that's his well-reasoned argument about how to think about it.

As a *political* economist, he may have a point in saying MMT is a difficult political sell, but otherwise, I'd say the guy is clueless about it.

CH , , May 1, 2021 at 9:13 am

Inflation isn't caused by the amount of money in the economy but by the amount of *spending*.

Like the other commenter, I've wondered this too"if wages have been stagnant for a generation, then how are we going to get inflation? By what mechanism? It seems like almost all of the new money just adds a few zeros to the end of the bank account balances of the already rich (or else disappears offshore).

Still, you just cannot people to understand this because of houses, health care and education. One might even argue that inflated house and education prices are helping keep inflation down. If more and more of our meager income is going to pay for these fixed expenditures, then there's no money left over to pay increased prices for goods and services. So there's no room to increase the prices of those things. As Michael Hudson would point out, it's all sucked away for debt service, meaning a lot of the "money printing" is just subsidizing Wall Street.

But if you pay attention to the internet, for years there have been conspiracy theories all across the political spectrum that we were really in hyperinflation and the government just secretly "cooked the books" and manipulated the statistics to convince us all it wasn't happening. Of course, these conspiracy theories all pointed to the cost of housing, medicine and education as "proof" of this theory (three things which, ironically, didn't go up spectacularly during the Great Inflation of the 1970's). Or else they'd point to gas prices, but that strategy lost it's potency after 2012. Or else they'd complain that their peanut butter was secretly getting smaller, hiding the inflation (shrinkflation is real, or course, but it's not a vast conspiracy to hide price increases from the public).

I'm convinced that this was the ground zero for the kind of anti-government conspiratorial thinking that's taken over our politics today. These ideas was heavy promoted by libertarians like Ron Paul starting in the nineties, helped by tracts like "The Creature from Jekyll Island," which argued that the Fed itself was one big conspiracy. I've seen plenty of people across the political spectrum"including on the far Left"take all of this stuff as gospel.

So if the government is secretly hiding inflation and the Fed itself is a grand conspiracy to convince us that paper is money (rather than "real" money, aka gold), then is it that hard to believe they're manipulating Covid statistics and plotting to control us all by forcing us all to wear masks and get vaccinated? In my view, it all started with inflation paranoia.

Blyth explains why housing inflation isn't really a sign of hyperinflation. But the average "man on the street" just doesn't get it. To Joe Sixpack, not counting some of the things he has to pay for is cheating. So are "substitutions" like ground beef when steak gets too pricey, or a Honda Civic for a Toyota Camry, for example. The complexity of counting inflation is totally lost on them, making them vulnerable to conspiratorial thinking. Since Biden was elected, the ZOMG HyPeRiNfLaTiOn!!&%! articles are ubiquitous.

Does anyone have a good way of explaining this to ordinary (i.e. non-economically literate) people? I'd love to hear it! Thanks.

TomDority , , May 1, 2021 at 9:41 am

"There is no such thing as house price inflation. Inflation is a general rise in the level of all prices. A sustained rise in the level of prices. The fact that house prices in Toronto have gone up is because Canada stopped building public housing in the 1980s and turned it into an asset class and let the 10 percent top earners buy it all and swap it with each other. That is singularly not an inflation."
Maybe I am totally off but, I would say"¦. By your definition, inflation does not exist in the economic terminology as inflation only exists if generally all prices go up and a singularity of soaring house prices and education and healthcare do not constitute an inflation because the number of things inflating do not meet some unknown number of items needed for a general rise in all prices to create an inflation.
What I read you to say is that if Labor prices go up " that could lead to inflation " but if house prices go up (as they have) that is not inflation.
Hypothetically " if labor prices do not go up and the "˜nessesities of living' prices go up (Housing and Med) " would you not have an inflation in the cost of living? " I am convinced that economists and market experts try to claim that the economy and markets are seperate and distinct from humans as a science " and that Political science has nothing to do with what they present. Yet, humans are the only species to have formed the markets and money we all participate and, the only species, therefore, to have an exclusive asset ownership, indifferent to any other species " IE " if you can't pay you can't play and have no say.
I submit that one or a few asset price increases that are combined with labor price stasis(the actual money outlayed for those asset price increased products not moving up) " especially one that is a basic to living (shelter) and not mobile (like money) is inflation " Land prices going up will generally increase the prices of all products created thereon.

Chris , , May 1, 2021 at 9:55 am

Exactly my interpretation.

The "transitory" "food inflation" (but it's not inflation since TVs went down!) is no issue. Just eat 2 years from now or a TV instead.

Objective Ace , , May 1, 2021 at 10:23 am

I think there's two things going on here. There's different inflation indicators, and asset prices are by definition never a part of inflation

The main indicator of CPI has so many different things in it that the inflation of any one item is going to have little effect on it. But you can look up BEA's detailed GDP deflator to see inflation for more specific things like housing expenses (rent) or transportation.

So back to real estate/land: real estate and land are like the stock market. They aren't subject to inflation. They are subject to appreciation. There is somewhat of a feedback effect for sure though: Increased real estate prices can drive up inflation. Rent for sure gets driven up, but also any other good that's built domestically if the owners of capital need to pay more to rent their factories/farms etc.

As noted in the article though, capitalists can simply move their production overseas so there's a limit to how much US land appreciation can filter into inflation. Its definitely happening with rent as housing can't be outsourced. But rent is only one part of overall inflation

jsn , , May 1, 2021 at 10:23 am

The point he was making is that the price change in housing is the result of a policy restructuring of the market: no new public housing and financial deregulation.

The price of food is similarly a response to policy changes: industry consolidation and resulting price setting to juice financial profits.

The point is distinguishing between political forces and market forces. The former is socially/politically determined while the latter has to do with material realities within a more or less static market structure.

This is a distinction essential to making good policy but useless from a cost of living perspective.

Starry Gordon , , May 1, 2021 at 11:26 am

One could prevent crossover for awhile, but eventually certain policies are going to affect certain markets. The policy of giving the rich money drives up asset prices, real estate is a kind of asset, eventually rising real estate costs affect the market the proles enter when they have to buy or rent real estate.

If state institutions tell them there is no inflation, the proles learn that the state institutions lie because they know better from direct experience. Once that gap develops, it's as with personal relationships: when trust is broken, it is very hard to replace. Once belief in state institutions is lost, significant political effects ensue. Often they are rather unpleasant.

jsn , , May 1, 2021 at 1:06 pm

Yes. Discussing complexity in a low trust society makes definitions of terms within a discussion necessary.

The same words are used in different contexts to mean different things making a true statement in one place a lie in another.

Skip Intro , , May 1, 2021 at 2:22 pm

Blyth pointed to the lack of systemic drivers of price increases, and how the traditional ones have disappeared. I think one that he missed, that results in a disconnect with the evidence of price increases across multiple sectors, is the neoliberal infestation. Rent-sucking intermediaries have imposed themselves into growing swaths of the mechanisms of survival, hollowed out productive capacity, and crapified artifacts to the extent that their value is irredeemably reduced. This is a systemic cause for reduced buying power, i.e. inflation, but it is not a result of monetary or fiscal policy, but political and ideological power.

cnchal , , May 1, 2021 at 3:23 pm

> . . . The fact that house prices in Toronto have gone up is because Canada stopped building public housing in the 1980s and turned it into an asset class and let the 10 percent top earners buy it all and swap it with each other.

That is a total load of baloney. The eighties were a time when the Conservative government came up with the foreign investor program and it was people from Hong Kong getting out before the British hand over to China in 1997.

I was there, trying to save for a house and for every buck saved the houses went up twenty. I finally pulled the plug in 89 when someone subdivided a one car garage from their house and sold it for a small fortune. The stories of Hong Kongers coming up to people raking their yard and offering cash well above supposed market rates and the homeowner dropping their rakes and handing over the keys were legendary.

It's still that way except now they come from mainland China, CCP members laundering their loot.

Any government that makes domestic labor compete with foreign richies for housing is mendacious.

When a Canadian drug dealer "saves up" a million to buy a house and the RCMP get wind of it, they lose the house. When a foreigner show up at the border with a million, it's all clean.

Robert Hahl , , May 1, 2021 at 9:49 am

Many people who talk about avoiding inflation are speaking euphemistically about preventing wage growth, and only that; dog whistles, clearly heard by the intended audience. Yet they are rarely confronted directly on this point. Instead we hear that they don't understand what the word inflation means, and Mark seems to be saying these euphamists (eupahmites?) needn't be so concerned because wages will not go up anyway. If so, what we are talking about here is merely helping workers stay afloat without making any fundamental changes. Well, both sides can agree to that as usual. Guess I'm just worn out by this kind of thing.

Basil Pesto , , May 1, 2021 at 10:02 am

this is only related insofar as Mark Blyth is a treat, and I shared it last week, but icymi, an excellent interview with him on the European Super League debacle last week , which really was a huge story.

The Rev Kev , , May 1, 2021 at 10:28 am

The thing that I like about Mark Blyth is how he cuts to the chase and does not waffle. Must be his upbringing in Scotland I would say. The revelation that the US minimum wage should be about $25-30 is just mind-boggling in itself. But in that talk he unintentionally put a value on how much is at stake in making a fairer economic system and it works out to be about $34 trillion. That is how much has been stolen by the upper percentile and why workers have gone from having a job, car, family & annual vacation to crushing student debt, a job at an Amazon fulfillment center and a second job being an Uber driver while living out of car.

Skip Intro , , May 1, 2021 at 1:24 pm

That $25-30 wage was keeping up with inflation , if it were keeping up with productivity it would be, IIRC, nearly twice that. It is interesting to see a dollar figure put on the amount you can reap after a generation or two of growing a middle class, by impoverishing it.

cnchal , , May 1, 2021 at 3:41 pm

This is key.

But now what we've done, Suresh Naidu the economist was talking about this the other day, is we have all these technologies for surveilling workers (instead of paying them more) . So now what we can do is take that difference between seven and ten and just pocket it because we can actually pay workers at your outside option, because I monitor everything you do, and if you don't do exactly what I say I'll fire you, and get somebody else for seven bucks.

Praise be the STEM workers. Without them where would the criminal corporate class be?

Every time I listen to the news (without barfing) the story is, we need moar STEM workers, and I ask myself, what do they do for a living?

howard in nyc , , May 1, 2021 at 10:37 am

Blyth is a bass guitar player! The things you learn about people.

eg , , May 1, 2021 at 11:32 am

I think he also plays guitar and drums, in addition to the bass guitar.

Mikel , , May 1, 2021 at 2:02 pm

If that kind of tidbit excites you:
Before going into economics, Alan Greenspan was a sax and clarinet player who played with the likes of Stan Getz and Quincy Jones.

Go figure"¦.

The Rev Kev , , May 1, 2021 at 7:42 pm

Mark Blyth has a remarkable history as well as, well, I will let you read this article about him-

https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2006/10/things-ive-learned-prof-mark-blyth-26651

As a tidbit, he has released five or six albums when younger and is into gourmet Indian cuisine.

HotFlash , , May 1, 2021 at 9:04 pm

And Michael Hudson studied piano and conducting . Do failed musicians gravitate to economics? Perhaps for the same reason as my bank manager, a failed bass player (honors graduate from Classy Cdn U in double bass), they see the handwriting on the wall. He told me his epiphany came when he and his band-mates were trying to make cup-o-noodles with tap water in a room over the pub in Thunder Bay where they were playing.

Tex , , May 1, 2021 at 10:39 am

The mental gymnastics to get to "everything needed to survive costs more but wages have not gone up in decades so therefore its all transitory and inflation does not exist" must be painful. How high does the price for cat food have to get before we stop eating?

freebird , , May 1, 2021 at 10:11 pm

Thank you. Most things I buy or am forced to pay for are rising in price. The economists may enjoy the article, but here in Topeka, it's not flying.

KLG , , May 1, 2021 at 10:49 am

Yes! "The Hamptons are not a defensible position" ranks right up there with "It is easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of (neoliberal) capitalism" by Mark Fisher (and F. Jameson?).

Jeff W , , May 1, 2021 at 5:03 pm

"The Hamptons are not a defensible position"

From Mark Blyth's 2016 interview with AthensLive here .

Return of the Bride of Joe Biden , , May 1, 2021 at 12:12 pm

Does anybody here have knowledge of how much hedonic adjustments influence our official measures of inflation?

chuck roast , , May 1, 2021 at 12:30 pm

Very good, Mark. This leads to the next Q. How do we maintain aggregate demand? The rich guys increasingly Hoover everything up and pay no taxes. So, there is no T. Is the only way to get cash and avoid deflation deficit spending by the G? There is no I worth a damn. (X-M) is a total drain on everything since it's all M in the US and no X. The deficits will have to go out of sight in the future.

You say that there is no velocity of money. Is this because the more money pored into the economy by the G, the more money the rich guys steal? So, there is a general collapse in C. Maybe the work around for the rich guy theft is a $2,000 (sorry, $1,400) check every now and then to the great unwashed. The poors can circulate it a couple of times before the rich guys steal it. Seems like the macro-economists have a lot of "˜splainin' to do. Oh, right, they are busy right now measuring the output gap.

eg , , May 1, 2021 at 2:17 pm

Can someone please define the variables in this comment?

T
G
X
M
C

Also, is there an equation that goes with them?

chuck roast , , May 1, 2021 at 3:29 pm

GNP = Consumption + Investment + Government + (Exports " Imports)

I'd like to see Mark go into a discussion on the velocity of money. I remember the old timey Keynesians lecturing about it, and that's all I remember. I'm guessing that it's related to the marginal propensity to consume.

Ed S. , , May 1, 2021 at 4:35 pm

Chuck,

I may be getting a bit out over my skis, but the St. Louis Fed calculates the velocity of money ( https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2V ). It is defined as

The velocity of money is the frequency at which one unit of currency is used to purchase domestically- produced goods and services within a given time period. In other words, it is the number of times one dollar is spent to buy goods and services per unit of time. If the velocity of money is increasing, then more transactions are occurring between individuals in an economy.

So as velocity slows, fewer transactions happen. Based on the linked chart, the peak velocity was 2.2 in mid-1997. In Q1 2021, it was 1.12. By my understanding, although the money supply continues to increase, the money isn't flowing through the economy in the way it was over the last 30 years (or even 10 years ago).

It's beyond my level of understanding to say with any certainty as to why the slowdown in velocity has occurred, but I speculate it's directly related to the ever-growing inequality in the US economy and the ongoing rentier-ism that Dr. Hudson discusses. [simplistically, if Jeff Bezos has $1.3 billion more on Monday than on Friday, that money will flow virtually nowhere. If each of Amazon's employees equally shared that $1.3 billion (about $1,000 each), the preponderance of the money would flow into the economy in short order].

I've always speculated that money velocity is one of the key indicators of the stagnant economy since 2008. It certainly has coincided with the dramatic increase in wealth in the top fraction (not the 1% but the 0.001%) of the US population.

flora , , May 1, 2021 at 1:03 pm

Thanks for this post. Blyth is always good at explaining in a way I can understand.

Mikel , , May 1, 2021 at 1:04 pm

What Blythe has laid out is not a tale about inflation or money, but a tale about power.

If money goes to the non-elite, you get inflation. If it goes to the elite, you don't get inflation.
If you are a country with little control of your resources (not lack of resources, but control) and/or loans (think IMF)/debt (think war reparations) that give people with little interest in whether you live or die control over your countries' finances, you can be prone to inflation or even hyperinflation.

Yeah, I figured out a long time ago that none of this is any "natural economic law" because there is no such thing as "nature" in economics. Inflation is all about political decisions and perceptions.

And I saw this on YouTube a couple of days ago"¦and I still can't think of anything around me that hasn't gone up on price.

politicaleconomist , , May 1, 2021 at 2:37 pm

This is a good response to Summers. But I have a quibble and a concern.
My quibble is that he offers no theory of inflation except implicitly aggregate supply exceeding aggregate demand and there is nothing but hand-waving regarding what he is referring to that he feels has a one chance in ten of happening versus Summers one in three. A second part of this quibble is: what does it mean for inflation to "come roaring back." I assume it means more than just a short-term adjustment to a shot of government spending and gifting. I believe if he thought this through he would have to conclude that without changes in the current structure of the global economy there is no way for this to happen. That really is the case he has made. With labor beaten down not only in the US but worldwide inflation will not come roaring back, period. That is unless there is a chance either that a labor renewal is a near-term possibility. I doubt he believes this. Or does he believe there is another way for inflation to roar back? If so, what is that way, what is the theory behind it?

A more fundamental concern is the part where he relies on marginal productivity theory when discussing employment and exploitation. Conceptually that far from Marx's fundamental distinction between labor and labor power.

Wukchumni , , May 1, 2021 at 2:45 pm

Hyperinflation doesn't seem to be possible in this age of digital money no matter how much you conjure up because nobody notices the extreme amount of monies around all of the sudden as the average joe isn't in the know.

Used houses are always appreciating in value, but none dare call it inflationary, more of a desired outcome in income advancement if you own a domicile.

There were no shortages of anything in the aftermath of the GFC, and now for want of a semiconductor, a car sale was lost. Everything got way too complex, and we'll be paying the price for that.

I think the inflation to come won't be caused by a lack of faith in a given country's money, but the products and services it enabled us to purchase.

Mikel , , May 1, 2021 at 3:47 pm

""¦and now for want of a semiconductor, a car sale was lost"¦."
Sometimes car sales are lost because the price of cars has gone up (new and used)"¦just don't call it inflation"¦

I'm going to let some more time pass, but stimulus or not, we went from all economic problems being laid at the feet of Covid to now moving on to "shortages" everywhere"¦

Just enought to make you go"¦hmmmm"¦.unti more time passes.

Ed S. , , May 1, 2021 at 8:34 pm

Used houses always appreciate " or is it that they appreciate due to a combination of inflation in income over time and the dramatic decrease in interest rates over the last 20 years?

A very quick back of the envelope calc (literally " and all number are approximate):

In June 2000, median US income was $40,500; 30 yr mortgage rate was 8.25%. 28% of monthly income = $945. That supports a mortgage (30 yr fixed, P&I only " no tax, insurance, etc) of roughly $125,000.

In June 2005, median US income was $44,000; 30 yr mortgage rate was 5.5%. 28% of monthly income = $1026. That supports a mortgage (30 yr fixed, P&I only " no tax, insurance, etc) of roughly $180,000.

In June 2010, median US income was $49,500; 30 yr mortgage rate was 4.69%. 28% of monthly income = $1155. That supports a mortgage (30 yr fixed, P&I only " no tax, insurance, etc) of roughly $225,000.

In June 2015, median US income was $53,600; 30 yr mortgage rate was 4.00%. 28% of monthly income = $1250. That supports a mortgage (30 yr fixed, P&I only " no tax, insurance, etc) of roughly $260,000.

Finally, In June 2020, median US income was $63,000; 30 yr mortgage rate was 3.25%. 28% of monthly income = $1470. That supports a mortgage (30 yr fixed, P&I only " no tax, insurance, etc) of roughly $340,000.

And for fun, if you went to 40% of income in 2020 (payment only), a $2100 monthly payment will cover nearly a $500,000 mortgage in 2020.

For the vast majority of home buyers, the price isn't the main consideration " it's how much will it cost per month. So a small increase in median income (roughly 2% per year) combined with dramatically lower interest rates can drive a HUGE increase in a mortgage " and ultimately the price that can be paid for a house.

Michael Ismoe , , May 1, 2021 at 3:24 pm

I find it amazing that when you give poor people money, it creates inflation. If you give rich people money, it creates jobs (LOL. Sure it does.).

As long as billionaires pay as little as possible, the world is fine.

Tom Bradford , , May 1, 2021 at 3:49 pm

Can't say I really understand this sort of thing but saying rocketing house-prices is "˜a singularity' rather than "˜house-price inflation' has to me echoes of the Bourbon's "Bread too expensive? Let them eat cake." And Versailles wasn't a defensive position either.

In my version of economics-for-the-under-tens you get inflation in two situations. First is where enough folk have enough cash in their pockets for producers/manufacturers/retailers to hike their prices without hitting their sales too much and secondly where there's a shortage of stuff people want and/or need which leads to a bidding war. However I'd agree with Blyth that neither condition exists now or seems likely to arise for a while, making a "˜spike' in inflation unlikely.

ArvidMartensen , , May 1, 2021 at 4:17 pm

I am a non-economist, and so my thoughts below may be wrong. However, here goes.
I would say we have had inflation. Roaring inflation. For the past 20 years of so.

Inflation in wages and ordinary costs of living? No, wages have been stagnant. Health care has led the charge in cost of living increases, but most other living expense increases have been low.

Inflation in asset prices? We have had massive inflation in the costs of residential housing where I live.
20 years ago I could buy a 5 br, 3 bath home on a decent block in a good area close to everything for $270,000 dollars. Sure it needed some renovation, but still"¦. Now to buy that home it would cost me around $1,250,000. So that home has gone up in value by 500%. Man, that is inflation.

As I understand it, asset inflation is not counted by governments in the GDP or CPI. It appears that those who have most of the assets don't want this to be counted, by the very fact that they control the politicians who control what is counted, and asset inflation isn't counted in the economic data that the politicians rely upon to prove how prudent they are.

So if you want a day to day example of where all this free money is going, look at housing. And also have a quick look at the insane increases in the worth of billionaires. They love all this government spending which magically? seems to end up, via asset purchase and asset price inflation, in their pockets.

cnchal , , May 1, 2021 at 7:02 pm

That home has gone up in price by 500%

Price is what one pays, value is what one gets. That house is roughly the same, so the value has not changed, but the price has gone up by a factor of 5

Same with stawks. One share of Amazon stawk is $3,467.42 as of yesterday.

What is its value? If Bezos can work his tools ever harder, monitor them down to the nanosecond and wring ever moar productivity out of them before throwing them in the tool dumpster behind every Amazon warehouse, the value proposition is that someone else will believe the stawk price should be even higher, at which point one can sell it at greater price for a profit.

Susan the other , , May 1, 2021 at 5:07 pm

What is inflation? Good question. I'd say inflation is fear of monetary devaluation. Not devaluation, just the fear of it. We'll never overcome this unease if we always deal in numbers. Dollars, digits, whatever. We need to deal in commodities " let's call just about everything we live with and use a "commodity". Including unpaid family help/care; and the more obvious things like transportation. If we simply took a summary of all the necessary things we need to live decent lives " but not translated into dollars because dollars have no sense " and then provided these necessities via some government agency so that they were not "inflated" in the process and thereby provided a stable society, then government could MMT this very easily. Our current approach is so audaciously stupid it will never make sense let alone balance any balance sheets. That's a feature, not a bug because it's the best way to steal a profit. The best way to stop demand inflation or some fake scarcity or whatever is to provide the necessary availability. That's where uncle Joe is gonna run headlong into a brick wall. He has spent his entire life doing the exact opposite.

William Neil , , May 1, 2021 at 6:59 pm

The figure for the upward transfer of wealth from the Rand Study was $50 trillion between 1975-2018. It was adjusted up by the authors from $47 trillion to bring it up to 2020 trends.

Here are the authors explaining what they found and their methodology: https://time.com/5888024/50-trillion-income-inequality-america/

Now the interesting thing to me is this " look at the date of the publication in Time magazine: Sept. 14, 2020, so right in the heart of campaign fever, and it never came up in the debates, in the press"¦I didn't hear about it until Blyth made one of his appearances on Jay's show with Rana Foroohar. Long after the election.

VietnamVet , , May 1, 2021 at 9:47 pm

As long as 80% of Americans are head over heels in debt and 52% of 18-to-29-year-olds are currently living with their parents, there never will be the wage inflation of the 1970s. A majority of the people arrested for the Capitol riot had a history of financial trouble. The elite blue zones in Washington State and Oregon that prospered from globalism are seeing a spike in coronavirus cases. North American neoliberal governments have failed dismally. It is intentional in order to exploit more wealth for the rich from the natural resources and workers. If the mRNA vaccines do not control coronavirus variants, and a workable national public health system is not implemented; succession and chaos will bring on Zimbabwe type inflation.

There is a reason why Portland Oregon has been a center of unrest for the past year. The Elite just do not want to see it. How can Janet Yellen deal with this? She can't. She is an Insider. She was paid 7.2 million dollars in speaker and seminar fees in the last two years not to.

[May 05, 2021] Flip flop: Yellen Says She Isn't Predicting Higher Interest Rates

Treasury as a PR operation ;-) Trying to stem inflating by talking it down.
May 05, 2021 | www.wsj.com
Treasury Secretary walks backs comments she made earlier suggesting that rates might rise

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said Tuesday she is neither predicting nor recommending that the Federal Reserve raise interest rates as a result of President Biden's spending plans, walking back her comments earlier in the day that rates might need to rise to keep the economy from overheating.

"I don't think there's going to be an inflationary problem, but if there is, the Fed can be counted on to address it," Ms. Yellen, a former Fed chairwoman, said Tuesday at The Wall Street Journal's CEO Council Summit.

Ms. Yellen suggested earlier Tuesday that the central bank might have to raise rates to keep the economy from overheating, if the Biden administration's roughly $4 trillion spending plans are enacted.

[May 03, 2021] The Price of the Stuff That Makes Everything Is Surging

May 03, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

The prices of raw materials used to make almost everything are skyrocketing, and the upward trajectory looks set to continue as the world economy roars back to life.

From steel and copper to corn and lumber, commodities started 2021 with a bang, surging to levels not seen for years. The rally threatens to raise the cost of goods from the lunchtime sandwich to gleaming skyscrapers. It’s also lit the fuse on the massive reflation trade that’s gripped markets this year and pushed up inflation expectations. With the U.S. economy pumped up on fiscal stimulus, and Europe’s economy starting to reopen as its vaccination rollout gets into gear, there’s little reason to expect a change in direction.

JPMorgan Chase & Co. said this week it sees a continued rally in commodities and that the “reflation and reopening trade will continue.†On top of that, the Federal Reserve and other central banks seem calm about inflation, meaning economies could be left to run hot, which will rev up demand even more.

“The most important drivers supporting commodity prices are the global economic recovery and acceleration in the reopening phase,†said Giovanni Staunovo, commodity analyst at UBS Group AG. The bank expects commodities as a whole to rise about 10% in the next year.


[May 03, 2021] Bond Market's Inflation Bulls Get Powell Go-Ahead to Double Down

May 03, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

The Treasury market's inflation bulls seem to have gotten a green light from Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell to double down on wagers that price pressures will only intensify in the months ahead.

The renewed mojo for the reflation trade follows Powell's reaffirmation this week of the central bank's intention to let the world's biggest economy run hot for some time as it recovers from the pandemic. The Fed's unwavering commitment to ultra-loose policy in the face of robust economic data is what caught traders' attention. It took on added significance as it coincided with signs infections are ebbing again in the U.S., and as President Joe Biden unveiled plans for trillions more in fiscal spending.

Investors eying all this aren't ready to give the Fed the benefit of the doubt in its assessment that inflationary pressures will prove temporary. A key bond-market proxy of inflation expectations for the next decade just hit the highest since 2013, and cash has been pouring into the largest exchange-traded fund for Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities. Globally, there's been a net inflow into mutual and exchange-traded inflation-linked debt funds for 23 straight weeks, EPFR Global data show.

The Fed is stressing that inflation's upswing "is transitory, but we likely won't have better clarity on this assertion until this initial economic wave from reopening has subsided," said Jake Remley, a senior portfolio manager at Income Research + Management, which oversees $89.5 billion. "Inflation is a very difficult macro-economic phenomenon to predict in normal times. The uncertainty of a global pandemic and a dramatic economic rebound" has made it even harder.

Ten-year TIPS provide a reasonably priced insurance policy against inflation risk over the coming decade, Remley said. The securities show traders are wagering annual consumer price inflation will average about 2.4% through April 2031. The measure has roared back from the depths of last year, when it dipped below 0.5% at one point in March.


[May 03, 2021] Warren Buffett- We are seeing substantial inflation and are raising prices

May 03, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

Brian Sozzi · Editor-at-Large Sat, May 1, 2021, 6:05 PM

Billionaire Warren Buffett is joining the long list of executives saying serious levels of inflation are starting to take hold as the U.S. economy roars back from the COVID-19 downturn.

"We are seeing substantial inflation," Buffett said at the Berkshire Hathaway annual shareholder meeting broadcast exclusively by Yahoo Finance . "We are raising prices. People are raising prices to us, and it's being accepted."

Buffett called out much higher steel costs impacting Berkshire's housing and furniture businesses.

"People have money in their pocket, and they pay higher prices... it's almost a buying frenzy," Buffett said, noting that the economy is "red hot."

The Oracle of Omaha isn't alone in battling inflation at the moment from everything to higher steel prices to runaway copper prices.

The number of mentions of "inflation" during first quarter earnings calls this month have tripled year-over-year, the biggest jump dating back to 2004, according to fresh research from Bank of America strategist Savita Subramanian . Raw materials, transportation, and labor were cited as the main drivers of inflation .

Subramanian's research found that the number of inflation mentions has historically led the consumer price index by a quarter, with 52% correlation. In other words, Subramanian thinks investors could see a "robust" rebound in inflation in coming months in the wake of the latest round of C-suite commentary.

"Inflation is arguably the biggest topic during this earnings season, with a broad array of sectors (Consumer/Industrials/Materials, etc.) citing inflation pressures," Subramanian notes.

The world's biggest companies are taking action, just like Buffett at Berkshire.

Proctor & Gamble said recently it would begin to hike prices on baby care , feminine care and adult incontinence products in the United States. Price increases will range from mid- to high-single digit percentages. The hikes will go into effect in mid-September.


Whirlpool CFO Jim Peters recently told Yahoo Finance Live the appliance maker just jacked up prices by 5% to 12% to counteract rising steel costs.

Kleenex maker Kimberly-Clark said it will increase prices in the U.S. and Canada on the majority of its consumer products due to "significant" commodity cost inflation. The percentage increases will range from mid- to high-single digits and go into effect in June.

[May 03, 2021] The Fed's -Base-Effect- Inflation Argument Is Nonsense - ZeroHedge

May 03, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

By Joseph Carson , former chief economist of Alliance Bernstein

Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell has played down the current runup in inflation, arguing it is associated with the reopening of the economy. And as the low inflation readings of one year ago drop out, the twelve-month calculation (i.e., the so-called base effect) of reported inflation is likely to move up in the coming months.

Yet, Mr. Powell's "base effect" inflation argument is nonsense. For the "base effect" argument to be correct, the twelve-month reading of reported inflation should be markedly lower when the economy was closed than what occurred before the pandemic. But that's not the case.

Last week, the Bureau of Economic Analysis reported that the twelve-month change ending in March 2021 in the core personal consumption index (the Fed's preferred price index) was 1.83%. That compares to the 1.87% reading for the year ending in February 2020 and 1.7% for the year before that.

The 1.83% reading for twelve months ending March 2021 essentially matches the average inflation rate of the two prior years. And that 12 month period includes the three months (April to June) when the economy was closed, and GDP plunged a record 31% annualized. How could there be a "base effect" on reported inflation when the base year has the same inflation rate as it did before the pandemic?

Mr. Powell's "base effect" inflation argument has not been questioned or challenged by analysts or reporters. Regardless of that, investors need to ignore the Fed's rhetoric and treat upcoming price increases as "new" inflation.

As nonsensical as the explanation for the uptick in inflation, so too is the remedy. Demand has always been the primary force behind broad inflation cycles. Yet, Mr. Powell argues that product price inflation will ease once manufacturers increase output and eliminate "supply bottlenecks," and home inflation will slow once builders build more homes.

It's hard to see how more supply (or growth) will slow inflation anytime soon. Federal Home Loan Mortgage Company (Freddie Mac) estimates that the US needs almost 4 million new homes to meet demand. That could take two to three years. Also, it's hard to see how increasing product output will solve the inflation problem. The supply-side argument solution; fight inflation with more demand and more commodity inflation.

The Fed's mantra has always been "inflation is everywhere and always a monetary phenomenon." But nowhere in Mr. Powell's statements or comments do you find any monetary policy role for increased inflation or any responsibility for containment. Investors forewarned.

[Apr 29, 2021] Federal Reserve isn't fooling anybody on inflation

Apr 29, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

vk , Apr 29 2021 15:19 utc | 7

Food for thought:

Federal Reserve isn't fooling anybody on inflation

I don't share David P. Goldman's ideology and convictions. They are almost the polar opposite of mine's.

But he has something I don't have, something that only a bourgeois specialist can give: insider information.

I once hypothesized here that, if the USA were to collapse suddenly (which I don't think it ever will, but if it do happen), then it would surely involve an uncontrolled growing spiral of inflation/hyperinflation. That's the logical conclusion of an hypothetical collapse of the USD standard.

So far, I can only see a mild rise in inflation. I don't think the USA will ever experience hyperinflation (four-digit) or even true high inflation (two-digit). Goldman is a rabid neoliberal, and anything above 2% is hyperinflation for him, so we should take these kind of analyses with a grain of salt.

--//--

Sugar rush:

US real GDP rose 6.4 per cent on an annualised basis in the first quarter

Fed Chair Jay Powell said that the Fed was not going to tighten monetary policy any time soon. So the US stock market hit yet another all-time high.

[Apr 27, 2021] What Happens to Stocks When HOT Inflation Hits- - ZeroHedge

Apr 27, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

We've been outlining how the Fed and other central banks have unleashed an inflationary bubble in all assets truly an Everything Bubble.

We've already assessed the impact this is having on commodities, bonds and other asset classes. Today I want to assess the impact this will have on stocks.

To do that, we need to look at emerging markets.

Inflation is a common occurrence for emerging markets, primarily because more often than not they devalue their currencies, whether by choice or because the markets lose faith in their ability to pay off their debts.

Because of this, emerging markets can provide a glimpse into how inflation affects stocks. So, let's dig in.

Here is a chart of South Africa's stock market since 2003. As you can see, the stock market rallied significantly until 2010, but has effectively gone nowhere ever since then.

The reason this chart looks so lackluster is because it is priced in U.S. dollars. The $USD has been strengthening against the South African currency (the Rand) since 2010.

Watch what happens we price the South Africa stock market in its domestic currency (blue line). Suddenly, this stock market has been ROARING, rising some 750% since 2003. That means average annual gains of 41%!!!

Let's use another example.

Below is a chart of the Mexican stock market priced in $USD. Once again, we see a stock market that has done nothing of note for years.

Now let's price it in pesos (actually the exchange rate of pesos to $USD, but close enough).

You get the general idea. So if hot inflation is in the U.S. financial system, it would make perfect sense for stocks (denominated in the $USD which is losing value due to inflation) to ERUPT higher.

Something like I don't know what's happened since mid-2020?

Look, we all know what's going on here. The stock market is erupting higher as inflation rips into the financial system based on Fed NUCLEAR money printing. And we all know what comes when this bubble bursts.

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[Apr 27, 2021] -They're Guessing- - Gundlach Rejects The Fed's -Inflation Is Transitory- Narrative - ZeroHedge

Apr 27, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Don't believe your lying eyes, will be the message tomorrow from The Fed's Jay Powell as he hypnotizes investors to believe that "inflation is transitory" and they have "the tools" to manage it.

'Bond King' Jeff Gundlach is not buying that line and told BNN Bloomberg in an interview this morning.

"...more importantly, I'm not sure why they think they know it's transitory... how do they know that?"

"...there's plenty of money-printing that's been going on, and we've seen commodity prices going up massively... home prices in the US are inflating very substantially... so there's a lot of inflation that's already baked in to input prices ."

Gundlach does admit that Powell has a point in the very near term as the prints were about to see "which could be as high as 4% [for CPI]" are off of year-ago, very depressed levels. "...what he means by transitory is that the base effect will lead to problems in the next few months but then the base effect will become less problematic."

But, Gundlach adds, "it's not clear to me that inflation is going to go back down to around 2 to 2.5%... we don't know, nobody knows... but we're most concerned with the fact that The Fed thinks they know."

This is worrisome because The Fed's track record is anything but inspiring...

"when I go back to the global financial crisis, when we almost had a complete meltdown of the financial system, Ben Bernanke completely missed all of the problems that led to the crisis."

Bernanke's infamous "contained to subprime... and subprime is only a sliver of the market" comments could be about to be trumped by Powell's "inflation is transitory" comments as Gundlach warns "there's plenty of indicators that suggest inflation is going to go higher and not just on a transitory basis."

The Fed is "trying to paint the picture" of control, but Gundlach tries to make clear: "they're guessing."

So, what does that mean for markets?

While some fear "we ain't seen nothing yet" in terms of yields rising (and multiple contraction), Gundlach notes that "it really depends on just how much manipulation the authorities are willing to do."

The billionaire fund manager notes that yields are "still very low... well below the current inflation rate... so we have negative yields everywhere on the yield curve."

It's also "hard to figure out who's going to buy the bonds," he notes, "as we are about to see issuance like we have never seen before." Foreigners have been selling bonds for years and domestically there is little demand, so Gundlach notes the only one left to soak up all this extra supply is The Federal Reserve, which has already expanded its balance sheet massively in the last 12 months.

"Who's going to buy all these many trillions of dollars of bonds? Foreigners have been selling for years and they've accelerated their selling in the last several quarters, domestic buyers are not exactly selling, but they're not adding to their holdings. So what's left to absorb all of the spawn supply is the Federal Reserve ."

"Left to true, free markets, bond yields at the long-end would obviously be higher than they are now."

And so who will buy all these bonds with negative real yields - The Fed... "and they have been transparent about their willingness and ability to buy bonds and expand their balance sheet with no ceiling."

Gundlach is talking about Yield Curve Control, reminding viewers that "The Fed can set the long-end wherever they want it... there's a precedent for this from back in the 1940s into the 50s," in order to ease the pain of the debt from World War II.

Of course, Gundlach warns ominously, "once they stopped the yield curve control, we went into a 27 year massive bear market in bonds, because of 'guns-n'butter' policies... which look like our policies today."

Simply put, he sees "an echo [in current markets and policies] of what happened in the late 1970s into the early 1980s."

His forecast is that "The Fed will allow the market forces to take yields to higher levels [10Y 2.25%] before stepping in."

The Bond King also note that the US stock market is very overvalued by virtually every important metric , and especially so versus foreign markets such as Asia and even Europe.

"I bought European equities a couple of weeks ago, literally for the first time in many years. I can't remember the last time I did it. And that's largely because I think the U.S. dollar is almost certain to decline over the intermediate to long term."

There's a lot more in the interview on the impact of Biden's stimmies and potential tax hikes...

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Sound of the Suburbs 26 minutes ago

We are going to train you in this Mickey Mouse economics that doesn't consider private debt and put you in charge of financial stability at the FED.

They don't stand a chance.

Financial stability arrived in the Keynesian era and was locked into the regulations of the time.

https://www.brettonwoodsproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/banking-crises.png

"This Time is Different" by Reinhart and Rogoff has a graph showing the same thing (Figure 13.1 - The proportion of countries with banking crises, 1900-2008).

Neoclassical economics came back and so did the financial crises.

The neoliberals removed the regulations that created financial stability in the Keynesian era and put independent central banks in charge of financial stability.

Why does it go so wrong?

Richard Vague had noticed real estate lending balloon from 5 trillion to 10 trillion from 2001 – 2007 and knew there was going to be a financial crisis.

Richard Vague has looked at the data for financial crises going back 200 years and found the cause was nearly always runaway bank lending.

We put central bankers in charge of financial stability, but they use an economics that ignores the main cause of financial crises, private debt.

Most of the problems are coming from private debt.

The technocrats use an economics that ignores private debt.

The poor old technocrats don't stand a chance.

WITCH PELOSI 39 minutes ago

42" entry level lawnmower @ Home Depot, spring 2014, $999. Spring 2021 $1549. That's what I call inflation! And maybe a little greed to boot!

atomp 34 minutes ago

$30 is the new $10.

Sound of the Suburbs 25 minutes ago remove link

In 2008 the Queen visited the revered economists of the LSE and said "If these things were so large, how come everyone missed it?"

It's that neoclassical economics they use Ma'am, it doesn't consider private debt.

Here it is Ma'am, look it's obvious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAStZJCKmbU&list=PLmtuEaMvhDZZQLxg24CAiFgZYldtoCR-R&index=6

At 18 mins.

Let's get our experts in neoclassical economics to have a look.

"It was a black swan"

Not considering private debt is the Achilles' heel of neoclassical economics.

It is a black swan to them.

That's the problem.

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[Apr 14, 2021] How To Estimate -Rational- Market Expectations Of Future Inflation

Apr 14, 2021 | angrybearblog.com

For a given time-horizon, it has been conventional for those estimating such a "rational" market forecast of expected inflation to take the appropriate Treasury security nominal yield of that time horizon (say 5 years) and simply subtract from it the yield on the same time horizon TIPS, which covers security holders for inflation. So it has long looked like this difference is a pretty good estimate of this market expectation of inflation, given that TIPS covers for it while the same time horizon Treasury security does not.

Well, it turns out that there are some other things involved here that need to be taken account, one for each of these securities. On the Treasury side, it turns out that the proper measure of the expected real yield must take into account the expected time path of shorter term yields up to that time horizon. This time path has associated with it a risk regarding the path of interest rates throughout the time period. This is called the Treasury risk premium, or trp. It can be either positive or negative, with it apparently having been quite high during the inflationary 1979s.

The element that needs to be taken into account with respect to the TIPS is that these securities are apparently not as liquid in general as regular Treasury securities, and the measure of this gap is the Liquidity premium, or lp. This was apparently quite high when these were first issues and also saw a surge during the 2008-09 financial crisis. In principle this can also be of either sign, although has apparently been positive.

Anyway, the difference between the nominal T security yield and the appropriate TIPS yield is called the "inflation breakeven," the number that used to be focused on as the measure of market inflation expectations. But the new view is that this must be adjusted by adding (tpr – lp).

In a post just put up on Econbrowser by Menzie the current inflation breakeven for five years out is 2.52%. But according to Menzie the current (tpr – lp) adjustment factor is -0.64%. So adding these two together gives as the market expected inflation rate five years from now of 1.88%, although Menzie rounded it out to 1.9%.

If indeed this is what we should be looking at it says the market is not expecting all that much of an increase in the rate of inflation from its current 1.7% five years from now. The Fed and others are looking at a short term spike in prices this year, but the market seems to agree with their apparent nonchalance (shared by Janet Yellen) that this will wain later on, with that expected 5 year rate of inflation still below the Fed's target of 2%.

Certainly this contrasts with the scary talk coming from Larry Summers and Olivier Blanchard, not to mention most GOP commentators, regarding what the impact of current fiscal policies passed and proposed by Biden will do to the future rate of inflation. Not a whole lot, although, of course, rational expectations is not something that always forecasts all that well, so the pessimists might still prove to be right.

Barkley Rosser

Likbez , April 14, 2021 6:27 pm

Larry Summers is a puppet of financial oligarchy. Everything that he writes should be viewed via this prism. He also is highly overrated.
IMHO rates are no longer are determined by only domestic factors.

I think that the size of foreign holdings of the USA debt and their dynamics is another important factor. FED will do everything to keep inflation less then 2% but this is possible only as long as they can export inflation.

BTW realistically inflation in the USA is probably 30%-60% higher than the official figure. Look at http://www.shadowstats.com/ :

March 2021 annual Consumer Price Index inflation hit an unadjusted three-year high of 2.62%, as gasoline prices soared to multi-year highs, not seen since well before the 2020 Oil Price War. -- March Producer Price Index exploded, with respective record annualized First-Quarter PPI inflation levels of 9.0% in Aggregate, 16.0% in Goods and 5.6% in Services.

L A T E S T .. N U M B E R S .. March 2021 unadjusted year-to-year March 2021 CPI-U Inflation jumped 2.62% -- a one-year high -- as gasoline prices soared, not only fully recovering pre-Oil Price War levels of a year ago, but also hitting the highest unadjusted levels since May of 2019 (April 13th, Bureau of Labor Statistics – BLS). Headline March 2021 CPI-U gained 0.62% in the month, 2.62% year-to-year, against monthly and annual gains of 0.35% and 1.68% in February.

That inflation pickup reflected more than a full recovery in gasoline prices, which had been severely depressed by the Oil Price War of one year ago. Such had had the effect of depressing headline U.S. inflation up through February 2021, including suppressing the 2021 Cost of Living Adjustment (COLA) for Social Security by about one-percentage point to the headline 1.3%. By major sector, March Food prices gained 0.11% in the month, 3.47% year-to-year (vs. 0.17% and 3.62% in February); "Core" (ex-Food and Energy) prices gained 0.34% in March, 1.65% year-to-year (vs. 0.35% and 1.28% in February); Energy prices gained 5.00% in March, 13.17% year-to-year (vs. 3.85% and 2.36% in February), with underlying Gasoline prices gaining 9.10% in the month, 22.48% year-to-year (vs. 6.41% and 1.52% in February).

The March 2021 ShadowStats Alternate CPI (1980 Base) rose to 10.4% year-to-year, up from 9.4% in February 2021 and against 9.1% in January 2021. The ShadowStats Alternate CPI-U estimate restates current headline inflation so as to reverse the government's inflation-reducing gimmicks of the last four decades, which were designed specifically to reduce/ understate COLAs.

Related graphs and methodology are available to all on the updated ALTERNATE DATA tab above. Subscriber-only data downloads and an Inflation Calculator are available there, with extended details in pending No. 1460 .

In this sense China and Japanese policies will influence the USA rates. If they cut buying the US debt the writing for higher rates is on the wall. In a way, recent events might signal that FED can lose the control over rate if and when foreign actors cut holding of the USA debt.

Behavior of foreign actors is probably the key factor that will determine the rates in the future.

[Apr 13, 2021] U.S. Treasury yields slip despite surge in inflation to 2½-year high by very small number of companies.

Treasury yields slipped Tuesday after bond investors shrugged off an increase in U.S. consumer prices in March that sent yearly inflation measures to the highest level in two and a half years. Treasury yields slipped Tuesday after bond investors shrugged off an increase in U.S. consumer prices in March that sent yearly inflation measures to the highest level in two and a half years.
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The 10-year Treasury note yield TMUBMUSD10Y, 1.653% fell to 1.659%, down from 1.675% at the end of Monday, while the 2-year note TMUBMUSD02Y, 0.168% was steady at 0.169%. The 30-year bond yield TMUBMUSD30Y, 2.339% slid 0.9 basis point to 2.336%.

What's driving Treasurys?

The U.S. consumer price index rose 0.6% in March, while the core gauge that strips out for energy and food prices came in at an 0.3% increase.

The annual rate of inflation climbed to 2.6% from 1.7% in the prior month, marking the highest level since the fall of 2018.

[Apr 09, 2021] Inflation is different for different income stratas of the US population with poor hit much harder then the rich

Apr 09, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

For low-income Americans, it has been a double-whammy of job losses (the total number of Americans receiving jobless benefits from the government has basically stagnated for the last four months)...

Source: Bloomberg

...and significant increases in the costs of living.

As Bloomberg reports , while the headline consumer inflation rate in the U.S. remains subdued, at 1.7% - but it masks large differences in what people actually buy .

If you like to eat, food-price inflation is running at more than double the headline rate , and staples like household cleaning products have also climbed.

Source: Bloomberg

if you drive a car, gas prices have soared in recent months...

Source: Bloomberg

All of which might explain why confidence among the lowest income Americans is lagging significantly (because groceries or gas take up a bigger share of their monthly shopping basket than is the case for wealthier households, and they're items that can't easily be deferred or substituted )...

Source: Bloomberg

An analysis by Bloomberg Economics , which reweighted consumer-price baskets based on the spending habits of different income groups, found that the richest Americans are experiencing the lowest level of inflation .

As Bloomberg 's Andrew Husby points out:

"On average, higher-income households spend a smaller fraction of their budgets on food, medical care, and rent, all categories that have seen faster inflation than the headline in recent years, and 2020 in particular."

The question of who exactly gets hurt most by higher prices could become more urgently concerning as most economists - and even The Fed itself - expect inflation to accelerate in the next 12 months.

"The food price story and inflation story are important to the issue of equality," says Carmen Reinhart, the World Bank's chief economist.

"It's a shock that has very uneven effects."

So, in summary, The Fed is telling Americans - ignore "transitory" spikes in non-core inflation (such as food and energy), it's just temporary and base-effect-driven (oh and we have the "tools" to manage it). However, despite all The Fed's pandering and virtue-signaling about "equity" and "fairness", it is precisely this segment of the costs of living that is crushing most of the long-suffering low-income population ($1400 checks or not) .

And now all eyes will be on this morning's PPI print which is expected to surge to +3.8% YoY.

[Apr 09, 2021] Inflation might be the way out of the debt crisis

Highly recommended!
An interesting headline from Financial Times
Apr 09, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com
Pascal Blanqué Wed, April 7, 2021, 8:00 PM

Bond markets are firmly in the driving seat. For too long, inflation has disappeared from investors' radar. The key ones include a hostile environment for trade and globalisation, business and labour support public programmes and the extraordinary debt burden fuelled by the pandemic. These are set to create a turning point in the current market regime before long.

[Apr 03, 2021] Inflation Is Coming. Why it Could Be Here to Stay by Jacob Sonenshine

Apr 01, 2021 | www.marketwatch.com

...Economists do expect inflation to rise to above 2% as more states reopen and then stay there. And the St. Louis Fed is forecasting a 2.35% rate for the next 10 years.

...China's economy has dynamics that could raise the U.S. inflation rate over time. Key to the argument are China's aging population and the value of the country's currency, the Yuan. First, age. Today, the average age in China is 38, the same as in the U.S. By 2040, though, the number skyrockets to 47 in China and dips to 37 here.

The shift means fewer Chinese workers and upward pressure on pay. Higher wages probably would cause Chinese manufacturers to raise prices of exports, which could be passed onto American consumers.

Now, the Yuan. The currency bottomed at 7.12 per dollar in late 2019 after a more than five-year down-trend. China wants a weaker currency so its exports are more competitive -- cheaper -- for global buyers. Since the end of 2019, the Yuan has risen to 6.50 per dollar. If the trend continues, U.S. importers might raise prices because the cost of their imports are higher.

"Over the next decade, Asia's growth will slow dramatically, its wages will rise, its factories will close, its surpluses will melt and its currencies will rise sharply," wrote Vincent Deluard, global macro strategist at StoneX in a note. "For the rest of the world, this will be a massive and unexpected inflationary shock."

[Mar 28, 2021] Seconding Paul Krugman- inflationary pressures will be a transient phenomenon in 2021 (will they cause a recession in 2022)

Krugman is is barking on the wrong tree. The question right now is not wage inflation but the inflation due to weakening dollar as purchases of Treasuries by foreign buyers weakened. That what probably caused the spike on 10 year Treasuries yield.
Without foreign buyers of the US debt the deficit spending does not work. So it is quite possible that this time inflationary pressures will come from the weakening of the status of the dollar as the world reserve currency. As along the this status is unchallenged the USA will be OK. If dollar is challenged the USA will experience the Seneca cliff.
Paul Krugman argues once's again this morning that any increase in inflation this year as part of a post-pandemic boom will be transitory:
Mar 28, 2021 | angrybearblog.com

Paul Krugman

A few months of rising prices won't mean the 70s are back

I agree. I want to elaborate on one point he hasn't emphasized; namely, you can't have a wage-price inflationary spiral if wages don't participate!

To make my point, let me show you three graphs below, covering wages and prices in three different periods: (l) the inflationary 1960s and '70's, (2) the disinflationary
Reagan-era 1980s and early '90's, and (3) the low inflation period of the late 1990s to the present.

In addition to the YoY% change in CPI, I also show CPI less energy (gold), better to show oil shocks, and also that it takes about a year for inflation in energy prices to filter through to inflation in other items.

Also, hourly wages were greatly affected (depressed) by the entry of 10,000,000's of women into the workforce between the 1960s and mid-1990s. This increased median household income, which would be the better metric, but since that statistic is only released once a year, I've approximated its impact by adding 1% to the YoY% change in average hourly wages (light blue).

Here are the three graphs:

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[Mar 28, 2021] Krugman Dismisses 1970s-Style Inflation, With Faith in Fed by Julia Fanzeres

Are FED pushing on the string?
Mar 19, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

"It took really more than a decade of screwing things up -- year after year -- to get to that pass, and I don't think we're going to do that again," Krugman said of the inflation scourge of the 1970s to early 1980s. He spoke in an interview with David Westin for Bloomberg Television's "Wall Street Week" to be broadcast Friday.

...The worst-case scenario out of the fiscal stimulus package would be a transitory spike in consumer prices as was seen early in the Korean War, Krugman said. The relief bill is "definitely significant stimulus but not wildly inflationary stimulus," he said.

...Economists predict that the core inflation measure tied to consumer spending that the Fed uses in its forecasts will remain under 2% this year and next, a Bloomberg survey shows. A different gauge, the consumer price index is seen at 2.4% in 2021 and 2.2% next year. The CPI peaked at over 13% in 1980.

The risk is that policy makers are "fighting the last war" -- countering the undershooting of the 2% inflation target and limited fiscal measures taken after the 2007-09 financial crisis, the economists said.

Even so, he argued that "redistributionist" aspects of the pandemic-relief package will reduce the need for the Fed to keep monetary stimulus too strong for too long in order to address pockets of high unemployment. Fed Chair Jerome Powell has repeatedly said the central bank wants to see very broad strengthening in the labor market, not just a drop in the national jobless rate.

"It's not silly to think that there might be some inflationary pressure" from the fiscal package, Krugman said. But it was designed less as stimulus than as a relief plan, he said.

[Mar 26, 2021] S P 500 And US Economy Face Seismic Shifts From Joe Biden And The Federal Reserve

The UBS economics team holds the out-of-consensus view that annual core PCE inflation won't exceed the Fed's 2% target until 2024. And what will happen with S&P500 if inflation brakes 3% barrier in late 2021 or 2022. Pumping money into stock market is a Ponzi scheme by definition so at one point mistki moment might arrive.
Mar 26, 2021 | www.investors.com

Biden hailed the new law's focus on growing the economy "from the bottom up and the middle out," after decades of supply-side, or "trickle down" tax policies. It "changes the paradigm" for the first time since President Johnson's Great Society programs, he said.

But the last time free-spending, inflation-permissive "regime shifts for fiscal and monetary policymakers" coincided, wrote Deutsche Bank economists David Folkerts-Landau and Peter Hooper, "such shifts touched off a sustained surge in inflation in the U.S.," beginning in 1966.

Growth in core prices, which exclude food and energy, jumped from well under 2% in 1965 to nearly 3.5% in 1966 and approached 5% by late 1968, Deutsche Bank noted. Inflation remained elevated into the early 1970s, even before an oil shock hit in 1973. The pickup was broad-based, but health care inflation played a key role, going from less than 3% to nearly 7% by early 1967.

The S&P 500 suffered through a bear market in 1966. Another 19-month bear market began in late 1968. The Dow Jones made a major top in January 1966. It would take the Dow Jones until 1982 to finally break through that ceiling for good.


What Is Inflation And Why Does It Matter To The Fed -- And You?


Outlook For Inflation, Federal Reserve Policy

Almost everyone expects a notable pickup in inflation this year -- including the Fed. Monetary policymakers expect the personal consumption expenditures (PCE) price index to rise 2.4% this year. That's vs. 1.5% in the 12 months through January.

Fed Chair Jerome Powell said March 17 that the Fed will discount this year's jump in prices as a transitory bounce from pandemic-induced weakness. What happens in 2022 will be key. Fed projections show inflation easing back to 2%. But if pressures don't ease, the Fed will have to reassess its 2024 timetable for the cycle's first rate hike.

It's easy to see how Fed projections might understate next year's inflation. Policymakers likely are not factoring in any impact from the Democrats' next massive spending package.

Subdued health care prices might help keep inflation in check, depending on what Congress does. A 2% hike in Medicare reimbursements is scheduled to lapse in April, but lawmakers appear set to extend it. A 3.75% increase in Medicare fees for physicians could end in January, Deutsche Bank said.

Democrats also are eyeing spending curbs to help pay for their infrastructure package. Letting Medicare negotiate prescription drug prices is high on the list of options.

Longer term, the inflation outlook may depend on whether a post-pandemic productivity boom offsets upward price pressure as globalization backslides.

10-Year Treasury Yield Surges On U.S. Economy Growth Outlook

This week, the 10-year Treasury yield has eased to 1.66%, after hitting 1.75% last week, the highest of the Covid era. Still, the 10-year yield is up 66 basis points since Jan. 5.

Financial market pricing now indicates an expectation that inflation will average 2.35% over the coming decade. That's the difference between the 10-year Treasury yield and the -0.69% yield on 10-year Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities, or TIPS.

"Negative real yields seem highly incongruous with the robust economic growth in train," Moody's Analytics chief economist Mark Zandi wrote. As real yields rebound, Zandi sees the 10-year Treasury yield reaching 2% by year end, 2.5% in 2022 and 3% by late 2023.

What Do Taxes, Interest Rates Mean For S&P 500?

As the new fiscal and monetary policy regime takes hold, investors will have a lot to process. If the era of too-little inflation and ultralow interest rates is drawing to an end, but earnings growth surges as the economy catches fire, what will that mean for the S&P 500? And how might tax hikes affect stock prices?

... ... ...

The UBS economics team holds the out-of-consensus view that annual core PCE inflation won't exceed the Fed's 2% target until 2024. Chief U.S. economist Seth Carpenter expects the new stimulus checks to be largely saved. The next fiscal package might likewise have a "muted" bang for the buck, while adding just $600 billion to the federal deficit.

... ... ...

Interest Rates: Parker finds that a 50-basis-point rise in the 10-year Treasury yield compresses price-earnings multiples by six-tenths of a point. Based on the S&P 500's current forward earnings multiple of about 21.5, that would equate to about a 3% decline in the S&P 500.

Capital Gains Taxes: Biden has proposed hiking the capital gains tax rate from 20% to 39.6% for high earners. Parker figures that could slice 1.5 points off the S&P 500 P/E multiple, potentially a 7% hit. However, UBS expects that not quite half the tax plan will become law.

Parker arrives at a 19.5 forward earnings multiple for the S&P 500. That also factors in some compression because the fiscal boost to earnings is bound to slacken...

[Mar 24, 2021] VTIP - Vanguard Short-Term Inflation-Protected Securities Index Fund ETF Shares

Mar 24, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

The investment seeks to track the performance of the Bloomberg Barclays U.S. Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) 0-5 Year Index. The index is a market-capitalization-weighted index that includes all inflation-protected public obligations issued by the U.S. Treasury with remaining maturities of less than 5 years. The manager attempts to replicate the target index by investing all, or substantially all, of its assets in the securities that make up the index, holding each security in approximately the same proportion as its weighting in the index.

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[Mar 24, 2021] Fed's Bullard sees inflation at 2.5% this year, easing only slightly in 2022

Mar 24, 2021 | www.reuters.com

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Inflation will hit 2.5% this year and not fall much in 2022, which the Federal Reserve should welcome as a way to reaffirm the central bank's inflation target, St. Louis Federal Reserve Bank President James Bullard said on Tuesday.

" I am not seeing the inflation rate come down very much in 2022 ... maybe just slightly, " Bullard said in comments that placed him among the more aggressive Fed officials in terms of willingness to see inflation move higher this year and remain there without raising interest rates.

"Part of the goal is to take the increase in inflation that we have this year penciled in and allow some of that to move through to inflation expectations," and keep them cemented at the Fed's 2% inflation target.

[Mar 24, 2021] US Inflation Rate by Year- 1929 - 2023

The real inflation for the past 20 years was probably around 5%: that buypoer of$100 dinimisnes by 50% in 20 years. In some areas like education and healthcare much faster that that. In some areas slower then that. Official inflation was around half of that (and this discrepancy is systemic -- due to the desire of any regime based of fiat currency to underestimate inflation and thus diminish additional payment to Social Security and other linked to inflation budget items) . Thanks to a massive federal deficit inflation might pick up.
Higher inflation in 2021-2023 is now the consensus,
Mar 24, 2021 | www.thebalance.com
Year Inflation Rate YOY Fed Funds Rate* Business Cycle (GDP Growth) Events Affecting Inflation
... ... ... ... ...
2000 3.4% 6.50% Expansion (4.1%) Tech bubble burst
2001 1.6% 1.75% March peak, Nov. trough (1.0%) Bush tax cut, 9/11 attacks
2002 2.4% 1.25% Expansion (1.7%) War on Terror
2003 1.9% 1.00% Expansion (2.9%) JGTRRA
2004 3.3% 2.25% Expansion (3.8%)
2005 3.4% 4.25% Expansion (3.5%) Katrina, Bankruptcy Act
2006 2.5% 5.25% Expansion (2.9%) Bernanke became Fed Chair
2007 4.1% 4.25% Dec peak (1.9%) Bank crisis
2008 0.1% 0.25% Contraction (-0.1%) Financial crisis
2009 2.7% 0.25% June trough (-2.5%) ARRA
2010 1.5% 0.25% Expansion (2.6%) ACA, Dodd-Frank Act
2011 3.0% 0.25% Expansion (1.6%) Debt ceiling crisis
2012 1.7% 0.25% Expansion (2.2%)
2013 1.5% 0.25% Expansion (1.8%) Government shutdown. Sequestration
2014 0.8% 0.25% Expansion (2.5%) QE ends
2015 0.7% 0.50% Expansion (3.1%) Deflation in oil and gas prices
2016 2.1% 0.75% Expansion (1.7%)
2017 2.1% 1.50% Expansion (2.3%) Core inflation rate 1.7%
2018 1.9% 2.50% Expansion (3.0%) Core rate 2.2%
2019 2.3% 1.75% Expansion (2.2%) Core rate 2.3%
2020 1.2% 0.25% Contraction (-2.4%) Forecast: Core rate 1.4%
Impact of COVID
2021 1.8% 0.25% Expansion (4.2%) Forecast: Core rate is 1.8%
2022 1.9% 0.25% Expansion
(3.2%)
Forecast: Core rate is 1.9%
2023 2.0% 0.25% Expansion (2.4%) Forecast: Core rate is 2.0%

[Mar 24, 2021] Powell Says Rise in Long-Term Bond Yields Reflects Economic Optimism

Higher interest rates means higher interest payment of the new government debt. The USA can't afford this so FED probably will try to suppress rate.
Mar 24, 2021 | www.wsj.com

"The Fed has signaled that its dovish monetary policy is here indefinitely," Mr. Toomey said, noting a recent uptick in commodity prices and a brightening outlook for economic growth. "I worry that the Fed will be behind the curve when inflation picks up."

Mr. Powell, however, reiterated that he doesn't expect supply-chain bottlenecks or an expected surge in consumer demand later this year as the economy reopens to change in long-term price trends. The Fed generally doesn't alter its policies in response to temporary price pressures.

"In the near term, we do expect, as many forecasters do, that there will be some upward pressure on prices," Mr. Powell said. "Long term we think that the inflation dynamics that we've seen around the world for a quarter of a century are essentially intact. We've got a world that's short of demand with very low inflation and we think that those dynamics haven't gone away overnight and won't."

Sen. Richard Shelby (R., Ala.) pressed Ms. Yellen on her changing views on the risks of high and rising federal debt. Government red ink has swelled over the past year as economic activity stalled and Congress ramped up spending to combat the pandemic.

[Mar 24, 2021] No Inflation Panic Yet, but There Is Concern

Mar 24, 2021 | www.wsj.com

John Gimmy Chesapeake City, Md

. Alan S. Blinder is correct that with the slack in the economy and high unemployment there is no risk of wage inflation (" There's No Need to Panic About a Little Inflation ," op-ed, March 16).

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Lloyd B. Thomas, Ph.D. University of Missouri Columbia, Mo.

The Federal Reserve is capable of nipping any surge of inflation, but it has made clear it will be behind the curve as inflation rises. It has announced that it will not boost interest rates until it is confident we have reached full employment and until inflation substantially exceeds 2% annually for a considerable period.

Ed Kah, l Woodside , Calif,

The Fed's "foresight" in the 1970s sleepwalked us over 10 years into 14.5% inflation, 18.5% mortgage rates, 7.5% unemployment and a severe recession in 1980. The Fed's repression of interest rates has already inflated asset prices. It is now favoring spending that will move the national debt held by the public toward 150% of GDP if the Democrats keep passing multitrillion-dollar stimulus spending bills in a fast recovering economy.

The big risk comes when interest rates regress to higher historic averages that increase the cost of government debt. Even a very small rise in short-term rates shook the markets recently. The Fed should at the very least hedge this risk by lengthening the maturity of most government debt. They should also caution Congress about the sorry history of countries whose debt exceeds GDP.

Jacob R. Borden , P.E. Trine University, Angola, Ind.

Prof. Blinder uses macroeconomic anecdotes to argue that upward of 4% inflation is no big deal. But it is a big deal when you recognize that inflation is a tax on the accumulation of wealth. Sen. Elizabeth Warren must be smiling.

Even worse, inflation is a regressive tax on wealth. The professional class is already shifting assets to protect against inflationary headwinds. Mary B. Flyover, on the other hand, has few such assets and instead spends relatively more of her money on fuel and groceries, the very elements missing from Mr. Blinder's preferred measure of inflation.

Every year, inflation saps the spending power of a dollar earned, putting future savings further out of reach for people already being left behind. What little savings is available is largely in checking and savings accounts that don't even keep up with current inflation, let alone just a little more. Then add the compounding impact of inflated incomes on inflated tax bills. Once 4% inflation is baked in, Ms. Flyover's tax bill will be forever higher, while her purchasing power will trend ever lower.

Thomas Porth, Hockessin, Del.

The facts that Prof. Blinder doesn't cite are what worry me. When I studied economics at Princeton in 1981 (using Prof. Blinder's textbook), the yield on the 10-year Treasury stood at 14% as of the end of December, while the CPI-U inflation rate stood at 8.9%. The real risk-free rate of return was therefore a positive 5.1% or so. In contrast, today the CPI-U stands at 1.7% (March 10), while the yield on the 10-year Treasury stands at 1.71% (March 18), for a real risk-free rate of return of what is effectively zero.

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Even relying on current measures of inflation, the real rate of return has dropped from positive 5.1% in 1981 to zero or, let's be serious, less than zero today (when I am retired). Sorry, Prof. Blinder, but I'm starting to panic.

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[Mar 15, 2021] A worry for retirees- Inflation forecasts hit 8-year high

Mar 15, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

A worry for retirees: Inflation forecasts hit 8-year high

A worry for retirees: Inflation forecasts hit 8-year high
Brett Arends Mon, March 15, 2021, 10:01 AM

Nobody suffers more from high inflation than retirees. Back in the 1970s, it was those in retirement living on fixed income that got hit the hardest as prices rose year after year. The investment returns from their bonds and cash fell way behind.

[Mar 14, 2021] Inflation Isn't Happening, and It Likely Won't. Here Are 7 Charts Showing This. - Barron's

Real inflation in the USA is probably close to 3-4% a year judging from the dynamic of rental payments and prices on on food. Annual Food inflation was between 3.93%, to 3.78% in December to February timeframe.
The February 2021 ShadowStats Alternate CPI (1980 Base) increased 9.4% year-to-year, up from 9.1% in January 2021, 9.0% in December 2020 and against 8.8% in November. The ShadowStats Alternate CPI-U estimate restates current headline inflation so as to reverse the government's inflation-reducing gimmicks of the last four decades, which were designed specifically to reduce/ understate COLAs.
Mar 14, 2021 | www.barrons.com

Inflation may be on many investors' minds, but it has yet to show up in the numbers. Moreover, a close reading of the data suggests that inflation won't be a problem for some time, if ever.

The latest reading of the consumer price index shows that Americans' cost of living was only 1.7% higher in February 2021 than a year earlier. That's the fastest inflation reading since the pandemic began, but still substantially slower than the pre-pandemic average. Exclude volatile food and energy prices, and inflation is running at 1.3%...

[Mar 14, 2021] Fact vs. Fiction: Understatement Of Housing Inflation Exceeds Bubble Levels

Mar 14, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Submitted by Joseph Carson, former chief economist of AllianceBernstein

The understatement of housing inflation in the consumer price index has reached a new milestone. As reported, the gap between the actual change in house prices and owners' rent, published by the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), exceeds the "bubble" levels.

In February, BLS reported owner's rent increased 2% over the last 12 months. House price inflation, as reported by the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA), increased 11.4%. That gap over 900 basis points exceeds the 800 basis point gap recorded during the housing bubble peak.

The consumer price index was created and designed to measure prices paid for purchases of specific goods and services by consumers. The CPI was often referred to as a buyers' index since it only measured prices "paid" by consumers.

The CPI has lost that designation. It is no longer measures actual prices. For the past two decades, BLS imputes the owners' rent series, using data from the rental market, no longer using price data from the larger single-family market.

Imputing prices for the cost of housing services make the CPI a hybrid index or a cross between a price index and a cost of living index. A hybrid index is not appropriate as a gauge to ascertain price stability, especially when the hypothetical measure of owner's rent accounts for 30% of the core CPI.

The CPI missed the price "bubble" of the mid-2000s, and the economic and financial fallout was historic. History sometimes repeats itself in economics and finance. Policymakers forewarned.

[Mar 14, 2021] Some thought on the current money bubble from ZeroHedge crowd

Mar 14, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

USAllDay 3 hours ago

The FED has been inflating a cheap money bubble for 40 years. The response to every recession is to cut rates. But the Fed never returns rates to pre-recession levels so the economy ultimately enters one recession after the next at lower and lower rates. Now at near zero, the gig is up. Dropping rates by nearly 50 basis points per year for four decades has created the mother of all bubbles.

Greed is King 1 hour ago remove link

USA, the new Roman Empire and just like the old Roman Empire was, the scourge of the planet.

A Sovereign debt ridden nation, that only survives due to its enormous military that enables the USA to pillage the resources of other countries via a foreign policy of threat, intimidation, invasion and occupation; exactly the same tactics used by the original Roman Empire.

Unfortunately for the USA, the MIC and American armed forces, are the biggest consumer of all of the income and resources obtained from pillaging and debt, they are a greedy insatiable monster that continues to grow and demands more and more to be fed.

We`re now in the ludicrous, unsustainable and unacceptable situation of, all of the countries who are having their resources stolen by the USA, and all of the American tax payers who are underwriting the debt incurred by the USA are in fact paying for the MIC and armed forces to repress them.

Here`s a radical idea; why not stop borrowing to feed the MIC monster, and try treating the rest of planet Earth with respect and cooperation.

Make peace, not war.

Utopia Planitia 2 hours ago

It's a positive feedback loop...

[Mar 14, 2021] CPI Rose 0.4% in February on Higher Prices for Energy and Medical Services

Mar 14, 2021 | angrybearblog.com

CPI Rose 0.4% in February on Higher Prices for Energy and Medical Services

run75441 | March 10, 2021 9:59 pm

US ECONOMICS

Commenter R.J.S. Discuses CPI Rising led by Food, Energy, and Medical

The consumer price index rose 0.4% in February , as higher prices for fuel, groceries, utilities, and medical services were only partly offset by lower prices for clothing, used vehicles, and airline fares the Consumer Price Index Summary from the Bureau of Labor Statistics indicated that seasonally adjusted prices averaged 0.4% higher in February, after rising by 0.3% in January, 0.2% in December, 0.2% in November, 0.1% in October, 0.2% in September, 0.4% in August, by 0.5% in July and by 0.5% in June, after falling by 0.1% in May, falling by 0.7% in April and by 0.3% in March, but after rising by 0.1% in February of last year .the unadjusted CPI-U index, which was set with prices of the 1982 to 1984 period equal to 100, rose from 261.582 in January to 263.014 in February , which left it statistically 1.6762% higher than the 258.678 reading of February of last year, which is reported as a 1.7% year over year increase, up from the 1.4% year over year increase reported a month ago .with higher prices for energy and foods both factors in the overall index increase, seasonally adjusted core prices, which exclude food and energy, were up just 0.1% for the month, as the unadjusted core price index rose from 269.755 to 270.696, which left the core index 1.2826% ahead of its year ago reading of 267.268, which is reported as a 1.3% year over year increase, down from the 1.4% year over year core price increase that was reported for January and the 1.6% the year over year core price increase that was reported for December

The volatile seasonally adjusted energy price index rose 3.9% in February , after rising by 3.5% in January, 2.6% in December, 0.7% in November, 0.6% in October, 1.4% in September, 0.9% in August, 2.1% in July, and by 4.4% in June, but after falling by 2.3% in May, by 9.5% in April, 5.8% in March, and by 2.5% last February, and hence is only 2.4% higher than in February a year ago the price index for energy commodities was 6.6% higher in February, while the index for energy services was 0.9% higher, after falling 0.3% in January .the energy commodity index was up 6.6% on a 6.4% increase in the price of gasoline and a 9.9% increase in the index for fuel oil, while prices for other energy commodities, including propane, kerosene, and firewood, were on average 7.3% higher within energy services, the price index for utility gas service rose 1.6% after falling 0.4% in January and is now 6.7% higher than it was a year ago, while the electricity price index rose 0.7% after falling 0.2% in January .energy commodities are now averaging 1.6% higher than their year ago levels, with gasoline price averaging 1.5% higher than they were a year ago, while the energy services price index is now up 3.2% from last February, as electricity prices are also 2.3% higher than a year ago

The seasonally adjusted food price index rose 0.2% in February, after rising by 0.1% in January and 0.3% in December, after being unchanged in November, rising 0.2% in October, rising 0.1% in August and in September, after falling 0.3% in July, rising 0.5% in June, 0.7% in May, 1.4% in April, 0.3% in March, and by 0.3% last February, as the price index for food purchased for use at home was 0.3% higher in January, after falling 0.1% in January, while the index for food bought to eat away from home was 0.1% higher, as average prices at fast food outlets rose 0.4% and prices at full service restaurants rose 0.3%, while food prices at employee sites and schools averaged 12.2% lower notably, the price index for food at elementary and secondary schools was down 13.7% and is now down 32.5% from a year ago

[Mar 14, 2021] Fact vs. Fiction: Understatement Of Housing Inflation Exceeds Bubble Levels

Mar 14, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Submitted by Joseph Carson, former chief economist of AllianceBernstein

The understatement of housing inflation in the consumer price index has reached a new milestone. As reported, the gap between the actual change in house prices and owners' rent, published by the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), exceeds the "bubble" levels.

In February, BLS reported owner's rent increased 2% over the last 12 months. House price inflation, as reported by the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA), increased 11.4%. That gap over 900 basis points exceeds the 800 basis point gap recorded during the housing bubble peak.

The consumer price index was created and designed to measure prices paid for purchases of specific goods and services by consumers. The CPI was often referred to as a buyers' index since it only measured prices "paid" by consumers.

The CPI has lost that designation. It is no longer measures actual prices. For the past two decades, BLS imputes the owners' rent series, using data from the rental market, no longer using price data from the larger single-family market.

Imputing prices for the cost of housing services make the CPI a hybrid index or a cross between a price index and a cost of living index. A hybrid index is not appropriate as a gauge to ascertain price stability, especially when the hypothetical measure of owner's rent accounts for 30% of the core CPI.

The CPI missed the price "bubble" of the mid-2000s, and the economic and financial fallout was historic. History sometimes repeats itself in economics and finance. Policymakers forewarned.

[Mar 12, 2021] Higher Gas, Energy Prices Boost Consumer Inflation

Mar 12, 2021 | www.wsj.com

The consumer-price index rose 0.4% in February from the prior month, as the pace of the economic recovery increased following a winter lull, buoyed by higher gasoline and energy costs.

[Mar 06, 2021] Pointless Pain Is What We're Enduring. And All for the Sake of Accepting That Money is Not a Constraint on Our Potential

Mar 06, 2021 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

I worry that people cannot survive this. Real, warm blooded, caring, loving people can be broken by this. And that's what makes me angry. Because this is unnecessary. The money to deliver a decent society exists.

All that we need to make the lives of the vast majority of people in this country is a real understanding of economics, of money, of how it interacts with tax, and how we can use that for the common good.

But no political party seems to get that as yet. And until they do, this unnecessary suffering will continue. And that makes me very angry. Pointless pain is what we're enduring. And all for the sake of accepting that money is not a constraint on our potential, and never will be.


DTK , March 6, 2021 at 8:28 am

Hey Steve K,
Please explain why MMT is a bad joke.
Thank You

dummy , March 6, 2021 at 2:59 pm

Let me have a go.
If prosperity and wealth can be created by printing more money, why there is still poverty in the world?
After all, isn't every country equipped with a central bank that can print as much money as they want?

eg , March 6, 2021 at 5:37 pm

Depends upon what the additional money is used for -- if it's to employ the currently unemployed productively, then everyone is better off.

dummy , March 6, 2021 at 6:59 pm

Real wealth is not denominated in dollars, only in what those dollars can buy. Devaluing the dollar doesn't hurt the wealthy, most of their wealth is in the form of equity and real assets, not dollars.
The average person's wealth is measured mostly in his future labor, how much he is going to earn. He will earn less because the Fed devalues his labor through its manipulation of the dollar. He will see this in the rising cost of living without an increase in his pay. Sure perhaps the value of labor will at some point catch up to the devalued dollar, but in the interim he will earn less and will never catch up to what he would have earned otherwise. It doesn't hurt the wealthy, it hurts the middle class, and will for years to come.

occasional anonymous , March 6, 2021 at 5:43 pm

That isn't what MMT says. You're arguing against a strawman.

eg , March 6, 2021 at 10:14 am

Your macroeconomic ignorance is duly noted, featuring as it does the usual "commodity money" and mercantilist shibboleths.

MMT describes fiat monetary operations which have been in effect since the Nixon shock and the abandonment of Bretton Woods almost 50 years ago . Do catch up.

Louis Fyne , March 6, 2021 at 7:53 am

honest question, wouldn't MMT (in a hypothetical universe run by committed MMTers) in the UK likely will produce vastly different results than MMT in relatively autarkic economics like the USA or Russia?

The UK relies on imports to one degree or another for virtually every physical good necessary for a first-world living standard (food -- even basic foodstuffs like wheat, medicine, spare parts, petrol, apparel, even steel, etc).

While the UK's economy tilts to exporting services education, finance, media, medicinal/technological intellectual property, tourism, etc.

Would a weaker UK pound encourage more service exports? Or merely increase inflation, particularly for the bottom 50%?

honest question.

PlutoniumKun , March 6, 2021 at 8:03 am

Because MMT analysts tend to be mostly US or Australian, the applicability of it to smaller, more open economies has not, I think, had the attention thats needed (although to be fair, Richard Murphy has done quite a lot of writing on this). While the UK is a large economy, its also very open (although increasingly less so, thanks to Brexit). So it clearly has much less room to manoeuvre in terms of monetary or fiscal policy than a more autarkical nation. Its not just with MMT and inflation – things like Keynesian multipliers tend to be lower in more open economies as the benefits of fiscal expansion get exported out. The Labour party under Corbyn did put together some very interesting and well thought through MMT-influenced policies, but of course that all got thrown out with Corbyn.

As Yves has pointed out before, the UK has a particular problem in that it has little spare physical capacity in its economy to take advantage of a weaker currency. In the past, it has been unable to increase output when the pound has been weaker. So a weakening pound is likely to be more inflationary than in many other economies.

I think that in a general sense, MMT makes sense in all economies in a Covid scenario of a massive drop in output thanks to a black swan event. As Murphy points out, you just need to shove the cash into the economy through monetary means and forget about having to repay it. Inflation just isn't a problem in those circumstances, and it has the benefit of maintaining productive capacity within the economy. But in more 'normal' times, MMT needs to be applied with far more care in an economy like the UK than in a US or China or Russia or EU.

Susan the other , March 6, 2021 at 1:16 pm

Kind of wondering here what would happen if all the poor and unemployed/welfare recipients and even the precarious middle class also decided to offshore their money. Why not? Say in every country; say it became a global movement. The neoliberal nightmare should inform us all. Just because a small country doesn't have spare capacity or idle resources is not really a contraindication for MMT. It is more a factor of having an intrinsic imbalance due to decades if not centuries of grift and graft by those in a position to help themselves. And it creates confused politics. As you mentioned above – the Tories in the UK seem to have also usurped the opposition. Well, to my thinking, that is exactly what Trump did. And it is almost a crazy hope of "If you can't beat them, join them." And just exactly where does that leave a functional economy? My first image is a junkyard.

James E Keenan , March 6, 2021 at 9:55 am

Two points:

First, apropos the applicability of Modern Money Theory to relatively open economies like that of the U.K., see the discussion of the prerequisites for monetary sovereignty as outlined by Robert Hockett and Aaron James in their 2020 book, Money for Nothing . In addition to the well-known requirements (nation must issue its own currency; currency not pegged to metal or any other currency; no borrowing in foreign currencies), Hockett and James add others, including "limited trade dependence in essential goods such as food or energy sources, in order to mitigate foreign exchange and inflation risk ." (274)

Second, apropos the applicability of MMT to smaller economies, I am pleased to note that Fanny Pigeaud and Ndongo Samba Sylla's 2018 book, L'Arme Invisible de la Françafrique: Une Histoire du Franc CFA , has at last been published in English as Africa's Last Colonial Currency: The CFA Franc Story . (Your search engine will take you either to the publisher or to an internet behemoth where you can order it.)

Pigeaud and Sylla's book is a history and analysis of the political economy of the CFA zone: the countries of central and west Africa which were French colonies and which continue to use a common currency imposed on them by the French imperialists in 1945.

This book is, in my estimation, the best book we have so far in applying the insights of Modern Money Theory to non-monetarily sovereign economies. You have to love any book that starts out by translating Hyman Minsky's most famous aphorism into French: Tout un chacun peut creér de la monnaie: le problème est de la faire accepter.

HotFlash , March 6, 2021 at 11:42 am

"limited trade dependence in essential goods such as food or energy sources, in order to mitigate foreign exchange and inflation risk ."

Again, we/they have choices based on resource constraints. But, as usual, they are political. Most of these choices seem impossible now, but remember Victory Gardens ? Alas, such things are not looked upon favourably by Big Ag and the supermarket chains, but my depression-era grandparents grew most of their own food for their very large (by our standards) families. Maternal side, farmers -- my mother, born 1923, said that she never even knew there was a depression until she read about it later in high school. Grandpa paid his property taxes by driving snowplow for the county in the winter. Father's side -- my father, born 1922, grew up in a village (5-bedroom two story house built by his father, a shoemaker, and friends/relatives/contractors) on a biggish, maybe 1-2 acre? lot, which was part of a grant to the family for Civil War service. Grandma still had apple, peach, cherry and walnut trees, raspberry and currant bushes when I knew her, and had grown beans, tomatoes, potatoes and all that stuff before the 7 kids got married. Obviously, the kids did a lot of the work, too. Sewing room -- made most of the clothes for family, Dad says the kids' diapers were made of sugar sacks.

IOW, this is not rocket science. We did this sort of thing for millions of years, omitting the last 200 or so, and can very likely do it again. People explored the whole round world, and conquered a lot of it, without electricity or the internal combustion engine. We're not all gonna die!

Unless we as a species continue to act on maximizing shareholder value rather than surviving.

fwe'theewell , March 6, 2021 at 1:01 pm

Michelle Obama, izzat you? Gorgeous designer bootstraps.

The Rev Kev , March 6, 2021 at 5:53 pm

I think that you might be onto something here. I suspect that the lives of our grandchildren as they grow older will resemble the lives of our grandparents from your description. Of course that may mean a lot off decentralization from out of big cities but it can be done – especially if there is no other choice. And it's not like in the US that there is not the land to do this with.

RODGER MITCHELL , March 6, 2021 at 8:21 am

It is an excellent article, with one small exception, the words, "I accept that creating money this way is inflationary."

Contrary to popular wisdom, inflation is not caused by money creation . All inflations are caused by shortages , most often shortages of food or energy.

That includes hyperinflations. Consider, for one, the Zimbabwe hyperinflation. The government took farmland from farmers and gave it to non-farmers. The inevitable food shortages caused inflation. The government's "money-printing" was merely the wrongheaded response to the inflation, not the cause.

In fact, the hyperinflation could have been cured by more money creation, had that money been used to cure the food shortage, by purchasing food from abroad and distributing it, or by teaching the non-farmers how to farm.

In the past year, the U.S. has spent an astounding $4 trillion, and soon it will spend another $2 trillion, Yet, there will be no inflation so long as there are no shortages of food, oil, or labor.

Bottom line: Scarcity, not money creation, causes inflation.

Economists: Revise your economics textbooks.

Gengiskahn , March 6, 2021 at 3:55 pm

How do you define inflation?

DTK , March 6, 2021 at 8:36 am

In the US, as in the UK, planned inequality and (managed) unequal access to the benefits of the money system are two of the most salient activities of our (US) three government branches.

Patrick , March 6, 2021 at 9:02 am

So are ye telling me the reason conservatives don't (for example) want to raise the minimum wage is not because of some economic or monetary reason or law but instead just to keep people in their place, i.e. preserve the status quo? Amazing! And I guess them conservatives that "havenot" go along because of that "relative advantage" thing – they are so fixated on keeping those below in their place that they are blind to the upside of a more democratic and social monetary policy. Well I'll be. Now I git it!

Patrick ,

Patrick , March 6, 2021 at 9:21 am

Adding that yes, "fear of inflation" is an applicable "economic or monetary reason or law" that may explain the conservative position.

Anonapet , March 6, 2021 at 11:42 am

Then the MMT School are conservatives since they'd use taxation to curb inflation (by some undisclosed means that does not curb consumption).

But why should price inflation be a problem so long as:
1) It does not exceed income gains for ALL citizens;
2) the means that produce it do not violate equal protection under the law;
and
3) it is not extreme?

The only reason I can think of, and it's a contemptible one, is that large fiat hoarders* would see their hoards diminish in value in real terms.

*not to disparage those saving for a home, initial capital formation, legitimate liquidity needs, etc.

Adam Eran , March 6, 2021 at 1:50 pm

One point of inflation is to restrain creditors (rhymes with "predators").

Meanwhile, "printing" money does not initiate inflation. Most inflation–even hyperinflation–is "cost push," i.e. related to shortages of goods. In Zimbabwe, the Rhodesian farmers left, and the people to whom Mugabe gave their land were not as productive. Result: a shortage of food requiring imports (balance of payments problem).

In Weimar Germany, the French army invaded the Ruhr, shutting down Germany's industrial heartland, making a shortage of goods. They already had a balance of payments problems with WWI reparations.

Patrick , March 6, 2021 at 1:50 pm

"Then the MMT School are conservative"

In my example, no. The MMT School does not invoke inflation FEAR to deny nurses a meaningful wage raise.

Fear. Of change. Of "others". Of a level playing field? These pesky conservatives.

(For the record I did not excel in Father Brennan's freshman year logic class. And that was fifty years ago!)

Amfortas the hippie , March 6, 2021 at 2:23 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_vigilante

it was always thus.
the real Burkean Conservatives behind it all, who yes want to keep everyone in their place.
as i've lamented many times, it's hard to get a read on who the real Bosses are, since they don't go on TV and brag, generally(various rightwing billionaires in the last 15 years, notwithstanding)
C.Wright Mills and Domhoff are the only taxonomists of that cohort that i'm aware of Diannah Johnstone, perhaps.
Maybe Pepe Escobar when they hide the rum.
otherwise, every attempt i've seen in the last 30 years has had elements of tinfoil and illuminatii/NWO scattered throughout.
I reckon this is by design, at some level.
whatever there exists a demographic cohort of humanity that is exceedingly wealthy, thinks it's in charge and mostly really is and that is truly cosmopolitiain citizens of the world.
their most defining feature is that they pretend real hard not to exist and most of us little people give them no mind, and pretend right along.
This cohort is not monolithic, nor all powerful they each are as prone to tunnel vision and stupidity as any of us but they have better connected steering wheels, and cleaner windshields, and mirrors that work.
One hopes that, like in FDR Times, they will feel threatened enough by the results of their long term policy preferences to allow a few larger crumbs to fall from the table, so as to mollify the ravening hordes .ere those hordes notice who the real Hostis Humani Generis are.
But it looks like they're more likely to double down on the diversionary division of the Bewildered Herd hence, Cancel Seuss! and Sinema's little antoinette dance .and an hundred other mostly unimportant things that happened just yesterday to keep us'n's riled up about the wrong things.

see: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-06-16-me-4587-story.html

for an enlightening memento mori of being right here before .Time is, indeed, cyclical, like the Ancients insisted.

Patrick , March 6, 2021 at 6:39 pm

"Maybe Pepe Escobar when they hide the rum". LOL! Needed that.

[Jan 26, 2021] When guys like Michael Saylor put a half a billion into bitcoin they have done their homework. Seems to me a scam is an operation containing a lot of lies

Jan 26, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

uncle tungsten , Jan 26 2021 1:11 utc | 172

c1ue #118
I actually talked about this with Kuppy last week.

He considers HFT a problem but not crippling; he says they cost him $10K to $25K a day but apparently this isn't enough to deter his hedge fund activities. He said that up to 70% of trading volume activity in any stock is HFT (!).
As for scam: well - the value of the front running exists only so long as the herd is in the market. Every single market crash - whether bitcoin or the stock market or whatever - sees the vast majority of players exit (or bankrupt). At that point, the trading volumes and numbers of people participating plummet dramatically.
How valuable do you think RH's model is then?

Sounds to me that HFT is a scam in itself. Am I to believe that algorithms trading against each other repetitively at high speed is anything other than machine driven gambling on one algorithm's interpretation of the behaviour of another algorithm, mostly outside of the human buy and sell in the market place. Are the humans just strapped on for the ride through a cabal of trading companies?


psychohistorian , Jan 26 2021 1:29 utc | 173

@ uncle t # 168 who wrote
"
I was looking back at some earlier reports to gain an insight into the means by which the USA gave the game away and the means that might restore its place in the economic world. It has allowed itself to be completely captive to global private finance AND ownership of the keys to its salvation. If it does not nationalize its key industries then it can rest assured of its doom.
"

I continue to posit that the key industry that needs to be "nationalized/made totally sovereign" is finance. If humanity can follow China's lead, the motivations in the other industries will revert to doing what is right, rather than what is profitable.


In regards to your HFT comment in # 172, you have calling HFT a scam correct. It is programmed/manufactured theft under the guise of AI.

Thanks for your comments.

uncle tungsten , Jan 26 2021 1:32 utc | 174
arby #110
When guys like Michael Saylor put a half a billion into bitcoin they have done their homework. Seems to me a scam is an operation containing a lot of lies. I don't see how bitcoin falls into that category.

As far as a Ponzi scheme I also do not see the connection. It is nothing like a Ponzi. There are no promises of big returns or large dividends.


When people follow 'guys like Michael Saylor [and see him] put a half a billion into bitcoin they [think] have done their homework [and follow like fish chasing a lure] THEN they have been sucked into a ponzi scheme where the lure is a fast buck if they follow the (smart?) leader. Then the smart leader progressively sells out at a sweet peak and the chumps watch it dip for a month or two. Unless of course there are lots of paid journalists and bloggers and facebook praise singers pumping the lure of the endless profit of bitcoin.

Sounds like rumours of gold in them thar hills.

There are a large number of lies (or exaggeration?) in bitcoin and all spun within a sheath of mystery and complexity and even 'mining' to smear some credible lipstick on the scheme.

There is a sucker born every minute and they invest in BS and love a veneer of mystique and bitcoin falls squarely into the category of lies and scams and fancy imaginings and the lure that suckers are forever chasing. Yes, people buy and sell and some make a profit - same as any ponzi scheme.

While the BS is pumped the ponzi is inflated.

[Aug 08, 2020] Russia-China -Dedollarization- Reaches -Breakthrough Moment- As Countries Ditch Greenback For Bilateral Trade -

Aug 08, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Russia-China "Dedollarization" Reaches "Breakthrough Moment" As Countries Ditch Greenback For Bilateral Trade by Tyler Durden Thu, 08/06/2020 - 21:55 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

Late last year, data released by the PBOC and the Russian Central Bank shone a light on a disturbing - at least, for the US - trend: As the Trump Administration ratcheted up sanctions pressure on Russia and China, both countries and their central banks have substantially "diversified" their foreign-currency reserves, dumping dollars and buying up gold and each other's currencies.

Back in September, we wrote about the PBOC and RCB building their reserves of gold bullion to levels not seen in years. The Russian Central Bank became one of the world's largest buyers of bullion last year (at least among the world's central banks). At the time, we also introduced this chart.

We've been writing about the impending demise of the greenback for years now, and of course we're not alone. Some well-regarded economists have theorized that the fall of the greenback could be a good thing for humanity - it could open the door to a multi-currency basket, or better yet, a global current (bitcoin perhaps?) - by allowing us to transition to a global monetary system with with less endemic instability.

Though, to be sure, the greenback is hardly the first "global currency".

Falling confidence in the greenback has been masked by the Fed's aggressive buying, as central bankers in the Eccles Building now fear that the asset bubbles they've blown are big enough to harm the real economy, so we must wait for exactly the right time to let the air out of these bubbles so they don't ruin people's lives and upset the global economic apple cart. As the coronavirus outbreak has taught us, that time may never come.

But all the while, Russia and China have been quietly weening off of the dollar, and instead using rubles and yuan to settle transnational trade.

Since we live in a world where commerce is directed by the whims of the free market (at least, in theory), the Kremlin can just make Russian and Chinese companies substitute yuan and rubles for dollars with the flip of a switch: as Russian President Vladimir Putin once exclaimed , the US's aggressive sanctions policy risks destroying the dollar's reserve status by forcing more companies from Russia and China to search for alternatives to transacting in dollars, if for no other reason than to keep costs down (international economic sanctions can make moving money abroad difficult).

In 2019, Putin gleefully revealed that Russia had reduced the dollar holdings of its central bank by $101 billion, cutting the total in half.

https://lockerdome.com/lad/13084989113709670?pubid=ld-dfp-ad-13084989113709670-0&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com&rid=www.zerohedge.com&width=890

And according to new data from the Russian Central Bank and Federal Customs Service, the dollar's share of bilateral trade between Russia and China fell below 50% for the first time in modern history.

Businesses only used the greenback for roughly 46% of settlements between the two countries. Over the same period, the euro constituted an all-time high of 30%. While other national currencies accounted for 24%, also a new high.

As one 'expert' told the Nikkei Asian Review, it's just the latest sign that Russia and China are forming a "de-dollarization alliance" to diminish the economic heft of Washington's sanctions powers, and its de facto control of SWIFT, the primary inter-bank messaging service via which banks move money from country to country.

The shift is happening much more quickly than the US probably expected. As recently as 2015, more than 90% of bilateral trade between China and Russia was conducted in dollars.

Alexey Maslov, director of the Institute of Far Eastern Studies at the Russian Academy of Sciences, told the Nikkei Asian Review that the Russia-China "dedollarization" was approaching a "breakthrough moment" that could elevate their relationship to a de facto alliance.

"The collaboration between Russia and China in the financial sphere tells us that they are finally finding the parameters for a new alliance with each other," he said. "Many expected that this would be a military alliance or a trading alliance, but now the alliance is moving more in the banking and financial direction, and that is what can guarantee independence for both countries."

Dedollarization has been a priority for Russia and China since 2014, when they began expanding economic cooperation following Moscow's estrangement from the West over its annexation of Crimea. Replacing the dollar in trade settlements became a necessity to sidestep U.S. sanctions against Russia.

"Any wire transaction that takes place in the world involving U.S. dollars is at some point cleared through a U.S. bank," explained Dmitry Dolgin, ING Bank's chief economist for Russia. "That means that the U.S. government can tell that bank to freeze certain transactions."
The process gained further momentum after the Donald Trump administration imposed tariffs on hundreds of billions of dollars worth of Chinese goods. Whereas previously Moscow had taken the initiative on dedollarization, Beijing came to view it as critical, too.

"Only very recently did the Chinese state and major economic entities begin to feel that they might end up in a similar situation as our Russian counterparts: being the target of the sanctions and potentially even getting shut out of the SWIFT system," said Zhang Xin, a research fellow at the Center for Russian Studies at Shanghai's East China Normal University.

[Jul 19, 2020] A trillion here, a trillion there, pretty soon you're talking real money (creation) -- Crooked Timber

Jul 19, 2020 | crookedtimber.org

Larry Hamelin 07.18.20 at 9:37 am (no link)

The MMTers reading your article will take umbrage at your use of finance .

According to MMT, all government spending is financed by creating money. The problem of where to get the money is a non-problem.

Once the government has spent money into existence, the real problem is how to distribute the social opportunity cost of the spending, especially if the government has spent money to allocate real resources away from the production of private goods and services.

MMT makes this distinction precisely because they (we?) want to eliminate the rich as a veto point for spending. We don't need to get their money in order to spend it, and they cannot (or we should not let them) essentially restrict spending by obstructing the government's taxation of their wealth.

If we want to get the money belonging to the rich (and we do!), we want to do so because we don't want them to have it, for whatever reason.

There's another reason to be explicit about the difference between financing and distributing opportunity costs. If the rich have a lot of money that is not in circulation (in the national economy), and the government taxing that money to "pay for" its spending will do nothing to control inflation or distribute opportunity costs. Removing money that is not circulating has no effect on prices. It seems theoretically possible to balance the budget financially but still see price-level inflation.

I haven't done any specific investigation into the GND, but it seems uncontroversial that it will involve allocating substantial real resources to the creation of a nonpolluting power, transportation, and agricultural infrastructure. However, the effect on the real economy and the price level seems uncontroversially complicated. Some of the real resources will be previously unallocated, and we will simply be transferring demand from welfare-supported to work-supported, with no effect on the price level. Some of the demand created will indirectly cause an increase in private production, putting unused industrial capacity to work; the increase in circulating money will cause a corresponding increase in real private production, and again have no net effect on the price level. And some of the real resources will indeed be transferred from private production with no corresponding offset; taxes, "enforced" borrowing, and other monetary interventions will be needed to keep price inflation manageable.

I don't know of (and, like Lee A. Arnold above, would very much like to see) a model showing what effect something like the GND would have on the real economy. Under normal circumstances, the fiscal impact is a good proxy for the real impact. But circumstances are far from normal, so think that the fiscal impact is no longer a valuable proxy for modeling the real impact.

MisterMr 07.18.20 at 10:11 am ( 4 )

"The ultimate constraint on money creation is inflation. That hasn't been a problem lately and (as I'll argue in more detail later) the world is in need of a fair bit of inflation, probably at an annual rate of about 4 per cent for the foreseeable future. It's unclear how much expansion of the monetary base would generate this outcome, while avoiding the risk of a resurgence of inflation like that of the 1970s"

I don't agree that this is the problem: IMO the direct cause of [keynesian] inflation is the wage-price spiral, and not money creation per se (this also implies a problem, which is that if we want an high level of employment because we want an higer bargaining power for workers we can't really avoid wage-price spirals and therefore inflation).

Money creation by itself creates wealth, not income, and the kind of economic policies we had in recent decades caused an increase in the wealth/income ratio (or in other words the creation of a lot of fictitious capital) more than inflation.
So the real problem of "money creation" today is that it generates financial bubbles, rather than inflation.
The difference between money printing and government debt, from this point of view, is just that money is a 0% interest financial asset, whereas bonds bear at least some interest, so money creation pushes the general interest rate down more than bond creation, but this again is a consequence of the increase of the wealth/income ratio (since more wealth extracts profits from the same quantity of income).

"Substantial reductions in private consumption and investment will be needed to make room for the required public expenditure, and that can only be achieved through a combination of taxation and debt."
In my view the problem is that taxation is needed to avoid bubbles, and therefore what we need is to tax income from wealth and wealth itself (in order to push down the wealth/income ratio).
To put it in more familiar keynesian terms, the problem is that the ex-ante saving rate is too high, so that currently we need an increase in debt levels (bubbles) to ricycle ex-ante savings into consumption; we need taxation to push down the ex-ante saving rate.

But, the problem is, is it possible to have a capitalist economy running without economic crises while the wealth/income ratio goes down (which means that a lot of people see their relative wealth go down)?
IMO this is really difficult, and also explains the political problem for policieswhose purpose is to push down the wealth/income ratio, since these policies look like just some way to be mean against wealth owners, without an immediate economic reason, and when the bubble pops everyone blames the banks and the financial sector, not the excessively high ex-ante saving rate, that is instead perceived as a virtue.

Bradley C Kuszmaul 07.18.20 at 10:38 am ( 5 )

Recent quantitative easing of only 2% of GDP doesn't provide much of a bound on how much can be tolerated without causing too much inflation. Inflation is still up against the zero lower bound, and it seems plausible that we could get more than a factor of two more money creation. Which does get us into the green new deal range.

John Quiggin 07.18.20 at 10:40 am ( 6 )

@1 The Green part is (comparatively) easy and low cost. It's the New Deal (free college tuition, Job Guarantee, single-payer health etc) that will require a bit transfer of resources.

Lee A. Arnold 07.18.20 at 11:27 am ( 7 )

@6 Transfers of real resources or financial resources? Single-payer requires an expansion of suppliers in the healthcare sector to meet the uncovered demand, and those suppliers will be new taxpayers. College learning will be going more on-line, a tendency accelerated by this pandemic and anticipating the next pandemic, so we need, not many more buildings, but more professors, but they too will be new taxpayers. The jobs guarantee could be structured to generate sector expansions, not merely makework. So couldn't all of these eventuate in expanded sectors, ergo more taxes? Government investment at rock-bottom interest rates?

bob mcmanus 07.18.20 at 11:50 am ( 8 )

How much is enough (to pay for our policy goals)?

Only too much is enough, we want to print and spend enough to change expectations.

Currently, the dollar is the reserve currency I think largely for "safe haven" reasons, i.e. the oligarchs who have all the assets believe the US will be the last place to inflate, devalue, or elect an expropriating left-wing gov't.

After 40+ years of capital share gains and worker immiseration in terms of real and social wages and labour solidarity, and assuming we have under President S Kelton control only of printing and spending but no ability to raise progressive redistributive taxes how much MMT financed spending will it take to have the average worker believe that her real wages, social wages, standard of living, opportunities etc will improve relative to capital and the rich for the next forty years? And have the oligarchs also believe it?

That's how much.

Alan White 07.19.20 at 1:21 am (no link)

John, what say you about US/global military spending, which if cut and reallocated in the low double digits could transform society? Do you think it's just politically untouchable? If the US cut its military budget by say 25% it would still be formidable, especially given its nuclear deterrent. For the life of me I can never understand why military budgets are sacrosanct. Is it just WW2 and Cold War hangover? Couldn't the obvious effects of climate change and the fragility of the economy subject to natural threats like the pandemic change attitudes about overfunding the military (like the debacle of the F-35 program)?

J-D 07.19.20 at 2:03 am ( 14 )

@Tim Worstall: The political poles shifted, but less than you might think. Southern pols were overwhelmingly opposed, and nearly all of them were D (the entire old Confederacy had only 11 R Reps and only 1 R Senator). Northern pols, including Dirksen, were overwhelmingly in favor, and they were split between the two parties. But if you break it down by party and region, a larger percentage of Ds than Rs voted for the bill within each region. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/28/republicans-party-of-civil-rights

An interesting example of Simpson's paradox.

I don't know about the Democratic Party, but there was an important shift in the Republican Party: the thing is, that shift took place in the nineteenth century, not the twentieth. At the end of the Civil War, the Republican Party really was the party of civil rights, with champions of equality prominent within it; after the end of the Reconstruction this ceased to be true. Of course the Republican Party has changed further since then, because everything changes; but it hasn't changed as rapidly since the late nineteenth century as it did after the Civil War.

John Quiggin 07.19.20 at 3:50 am ( 15 )

Alan White @13 Military spending is about 3.4 per cent of US GDP, compared to 2 per cent or less most places. So that's a significant and unproductive use of resources that could be redirected to better effect. But the income of the top 1 per cent is around 20 per cent of total income. If that was cut in half, there would be little or no reduction in the productive services supplied by this group. If you want big change, that's where you need to look.

eg 07.19.20 at 4:08 am ( 16 )

@Alan White #13

I think some of the reluctance to cut military spending in the US is the extent to which it acts as a politically unassailable source of fiscal stimulus and "welfare" in a country where such things are otherwise anathema. Well, that and all of the grift it represents for the donor class.

[Jul 15, 2020] -There Are No Free Lunches- - Former Reserve Bank Of India Chief Explains Why MMT Will Never Work -

Jul 14, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

As Joe Biden tries to split the difference between the midwestern swing-state voters and the Sanders faithful, he's released an economic plan - a plan that bears the imprimatur of his one-time foe Bernie Sanders - that, in its attempt to be everything to every one, effectively promises everything to every one.

Buy American. Green New Deal. Corporate tax hikes. Trillions of dollars spent on infrastructure to install the latest eco-nonsense with money that should be going to roads, bridges, rails and airports. Docks and highways. Things people actually need and use. And who knows? Depending on his running mate, maybe we'll get a massive student-debt jubilee, too. All on the federal government's tab.

Now that MMT has gone from fringe idea to mainstream, making Stephanie Kelton, a cryptomarxist who believes that the link between value and money can be completely severed, so long as we tax the wealthiest among us enough to keep inflation low. It doesn't take a genius to suspect that an 'economic theory' grounded in the idea that governments can take on unlimited amounts of debt and never stick anybody with the tab sounds absurd - even dangerous.

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We say dangerous because Kelton's greatest sin is offering pandering politicians more cover to encourage their spendthrift ways. During a recent interview with Macro Hive, former Central Bank of India Governor and University of Chicago Professor Raghuram Rajan delivered a succinct and insightful explanation of why MMT is so dangerous.

"We talked about sustainability and one of the big topics in markets at least is this whole idea of QE MMT infinity, the ability of sovereigns to borrow. Now in developed countries, they have historical capital they've built up and credibility," Rajan's interviewer began. "But you're starting to also see this idea...you're starting to see more emerging market countries experiment with it, including Indonesia and several others."

But at the same time "yields are very low, and if you look at emerging market spreads, they're very low...so markets are telling you that they aren't worried. Yet we know debt levels are high, and there's more talk in debt markets of QE and MMT."

Does the fact that markets seem content with the status quo (at least for now) validate Kelton's argument?

Of course not, Rajan explained. Because while the complexities of the global financial system, and the dollar's role within it, have allowed the Fed to spearhead this great monetary, as the veteran central banker explained, there's no such thing as a free lunch.

"We know that markets can be complacent until a certain point and then they turn on a time. We are at this point in a benign phase supported by an enormous amount of central bank liquidity emanating from the primary reserve currencies, the euro area, the US Fed and to some extent the Bank of Japan and the Bank of England."

"But we must also recognize is that there are no free lunches. If there's one statement you want to keep to pound into the head of every policy maker, it's that there are no free lunches. If you borrow today, there is a presumption that it will be repaired at some point, so you are in a sense taking away resources from somebody else in the future."

" Now it may be a generation or two down the line will be on the hook for this ...whether they can pass it on to their children is an open question...but you're definitely taking away their ability to borrow by borrowing today."

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.While burdening future generations doesn't seem to come up much in cryptomarxist essays about the moral imperative of expansive fiscal spending - some have gone so far as to argue that the federal government has a moral obligation to forgive student debt - Rajan acknowledges that the idea is "seductive" for all the wrong reasons.

"So the idea that there are free lunches...which certainly is what the lay person takes away from MMT...is very sort of attractive, seductive - but it's absolute nonsense."

If that's the message that's going to be communicated, then that's wrong.

Asked to elaborate, he continued...

"There are times when you can spend a little bit more, but you are still making a trade off and evaluating this trade off well...I think that's the right thing to do. If that's the message from MMT, then I'm fine with that. There are periods where you have more leeway."

"The message can't be 'Don't Worry, Be Happy' it has to be 'yes take advantage of periods when you have a little more spending capacity but use it wisely, because there's no such thing as a free lunch and you will have to repay it at some point... that's what any sensible economic theory will tell you, and I think that's what we understand now."

"When banks aren't lending, when inflation is low, it is possible for the central bank to expand its balance sheet somewhat ...and finance more activities that the government wants to undertake. That doesn't mean it's free debt it's equivalent to debt issued by the government - think of the central bank issuing debt as the same as the government issuing debt: it's the consolidated balance sheet you're looking at."

"Somebody is responsible for payment, it's either the central bank or the government."

"At low interest rates it doesn't really matter who it is, but as inflation picks ups it does matter a little more who it is because the central bank often is financing itself with effectively forced loans from the banking sector, and there's a limit to how much the banking sector is willing to do that, especially as economic activity picks up."

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"So my sense is yes there is some room now but it doesn't mean the debt level doesn't matter and it doesn't mean that we should just keep spending without thought of who's going to repay. And I think the big philosophical issues are how much are you going to bail out companies...why should Joe Schmoe...why should his taxes go to bail out a capital owner? After all, neither of them saw the pandemic coming...neither is responsible for the pandemic...so why should one bail out the property rights of another?"

"It strikes me these guys who want to open up the government wallet and spend to protect everybody from the consequences of the pandemic don't realize that there's one person who's bearing the hit: it may not be you, but it might be your children."

"And the question is: Why do they have to pay when they have no part in this?"

Remember: As Rajan explains, we must recognize that our resources are limited and use them wisely. Keep that in mind when Democratic politicians are trying to spend trillions of dollars of public money to outfit private buildings with solar panels or whatever 'Green New Deal' infrastructure travesty AOC & Co come up with.

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[May 10, 2020] MMT and COVID-19

May 10, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

financial matters , May 9 2020 22:43 utc | 34

The Fed is just following the Congressional mandate of supporting the people who fund our political system.

It should be clear that the stock market doesn't care about Main Street when you see it still going up with massive levels of unemployment.

MMT states that the Fed can create these funds that are handed out to business by the trillions but that is not what MMT 'policy' would want.

Most MMT people are actually against handouts to people in the form of a basic guaranteed income.

A major cornerstone of MMT policy though is a Job Guarantee. In times like these they would very much like to see employment supported by these government funds. Not only the basic job pool of a minimum wage job but also supporting more highly paid skilled employment such as supervising infrastructure projects etc.

MMT is more concerned with resources than money per se. It doesn't help to have money if people aren't making stuff, providing food and services etc.

[Apr 28, 2020] Hudson gives him the primary credit for providing the foundation for Modern Monetary Theory

Apr 28, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

karlof1 , Apr 27 2020 0:25 utc | 53

Some will know who Hyman Minsky was, some won't. Hudson gives him the primary credit for providing the foundation for Modern Monetary Theory, and he gets praise from Keen, Wolfe and many others too. On the occasion of his 100th birthday, here's a long essay that seeks the following:

"But the question still stands: Was Minsky in fact a communist? Of course not. But, a century after his birth, it is useful to clarify often neglected aspects of his intellectual biography."

Since Minsky's referenced so often by Hudson particularly, I think this piece will be helpful for those of us following the serious economic issues now in play. I'd reserve an hour for a critical read.

[Apr 24, 2020] The Use and Abuse of MMT

Apr 24, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

karlof1 , Apr 23 2020 18:19 utc | 35

Musburger @3--

I highly suggest you read "The Use and Abuse of MMT" by Michael Hudson, with Dirk Bezemer, Steve Keen and T.Sabri Öncü.


Leser , Apr 23 2020 18:55 utc | 41

MMT is brilliant and it's really embarrassing that it took The Deadliest Pandemic™ for some folks to come round to it. We all collectively print an extra bit of money - and give it to each other!

There are historic examples documented of successful applications of the concept, look no further than to the earnest witness of Baron Munchausen pulling himself out of a swamp by his own hair. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Munchausen

karlof1 , Apr 23 2020 19:22 utc | 48
Hudson also has another video posted to his site , "An interview on the Radical Imagination: Imagining How Financial Parasites and Debt Bondage Are Destroying Us," which is based on his book Killing the Host . It's a recent video interview that's @50 minutes long prefaced by the Occupy Wall Street Anthem and introduction.

One aspect of MMT that must be made clear is it advocates the use of public banking or the Treasury to pump capital in the form of money into the productive economy , not the parasitic economy the Fed supports--the difference is huge and vital. For MMT to succeed within the Outlaw US Empire, the Fed must be liquidated. For more, please read the essay I linked to @35.

suzan , Apr 23 2020 19:56 utc | 50
Musburger @ 3 : "What do you folks think about MMT?"


Re-inflation of a depressed economy can be achieved by government spending into:
public investment
employment
income transfers
income support
labour
tangible capital
infrastructure.

This is "good" MMT.

"Bad" MMT, or fake MMT, is government spending into WallStreet, handouts to:
the banks
large corporations
speculators
bondholders.

The March 2020 CAREs Act is bad MMT as was the 2008 bailout. This one is same as that one but "on steroids."
Both bailouts further empower(ed):
rentiers (the landlord class),
monopolies,
the financial creditor class
and cast most of the rest of the US population into reduced circumstances, poverty and/or debt servitude. They burden the working economy with overhead and debt that cannot be paid. Bad MMT.

While the MMT school has a healthy diversity within it, USG applications have flipped the theory on its head, says Hudson. See below for link.

(Remember Cheney's, "We are all Keynesians now"? )

Worse, Bad MMT does more than simply bailout the top 1%. It also increases the parasitic power of financialization on the real economy. As we have repeatedly seen, now most dramatically, the financial sector is incapable of planning for anything other than its own fictional valorization.

Libertarians' freedom from government dogma excoriates against centralized planning and yet, ironically, the end result of their "government is bad" path forced upon us in USA led directly to central 'planning' by default -- by parasitic-on-the real-economy privatized finance sector, a form of fascism not democracy or liberty.

USA'ns public health crisis occurs as states, which are required by law to not run deficits, face huge costs that will force more austerity on their populations. More callous, they are forced to compete against each other as they purchase essential equipment and technology (from for-profit privateers) to deal with the highly infectious novel virus, and the fed indemnifies the privateer mask makers!!!

What is the root of inequality today? Debt and the monopolization of real estate.
What are solutions?
Wipe out and roll back debt overhead on production and consumption.
This is "good" MMT.
Bad MMT furthers the debt burden on society, concentrates monopolization and cements in central planning by parasitic private finance sector.


https://michael-hudson.com/2020/04/covid-plan-more-capital-gains-not-profits/

[Apr 21, 2020] On monetary policy: there is always money for corporate welfare, the military, tax relief and benefits for the oligarchy but never money for health care, education, infrastructure

Notable quotes:
"... The budget deficit is simply a ruse to make you believe that government funding is limited when in reality they create money on demand with a few keystrokes. ..."
"... Thus there is always money for corporate welfare, the military, tax relief and benefits for the oligarchy but never money for health care, education, infrastructure, etc. ..."
Apr 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Noah Way , Apr 21 2020 16:42 utc | 75

@ #6 Passer by

In the broadest sense the US deficit is a measure of how much money the govt has created (not entirely accurate as the creation of money - really debt - has been largely outsourced to private banks). If the national debt was 'paid off' It would suck all the money out of society and the economy would collapse.

The Fed doesn't need taxes as revenue as it just creates whatever money it needs. The budget deficit is simply a ruse to make you believe that government funding is limited when in reality they create money on demand with a few keystrokes.

Thus there is always money for corporate welfare, the military, tax relief and benefits for the oligarchy but never money for health care, education, infrastructure, etc. The deficit is 1/2 of a balance sheet, the deficit on the govt side is balanced by a surplus (money in circulation) in the economy. Note that states are revenue constrained and depend on taxes and federal outlays to operate as they cannot create their own money on demand.

But what about inflation? Too much money in circulation lowers its value. Taxes are the real federal economic regulatory mechanism. When there is inflation, higher taxes directly remove money from circulation. The disinformation campaign is that interest rates control inflation, which has a) repeatedly been demonstrated false and b) is simply another system of rewards for the banking cartel.

The best metaphor is a sink. The faucet is the creation of money, the basin is the economy, and the drain is taxes. When the sink starts to overflow (inflation) the solution is to open up the drain (raise taxes).

Note also that this is for a sovereign economy, one that is controlled by the government. The EU has effectively destroyed all the sovereign economies in Europe with its central bank. Thus Greece, Italy, Spain, etc. have no control of their own economies and as such are unable to economically regulate themselves and subject to foreign predatory forces.

gm , Apr 21 2020 16:51 utc | 77

@Posted by: Noah Way | Apr 21 2020 16:42 utc | 75

Shorter version: "Deficits Don't Matter" Dick Cheney, 2002.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2004-01-12-0401120168-story.html

[Mar 15, 2020] While it is still popular to claim that the United States has never defaulted on its debt, this is a myth

Mar 15, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Likklemore , Mar 14 2020 22:42 utc | 44

@c1ue 28 and 30

Given that 2/3rds or more of the debt is owed to Americans

suggest you whisper that to the Chinese, other sovereign holders and non-US individuals - you know those Tbills and Tbonds.

Nobody has a better credit rating than the USG - because the USG can literally not default.

Really? Why did S&P downgrade US credit rating in 2014?

and

what do you think happened on August 15 1971? that date can be categorized as recent!

LINK


[.]
While it is still popular to claim that the United States has never defaulted on its debt, this is a myth. The US has been forced to default a couple of times throughout history, the last of which being when Richard Nixon&rsquo closed the gold window. By cutting the ability of foreign governments to redeem US dollars for gold, America was allowed to pay back past debt with devalued fiat money. This form of default has long been a popular option for governments with debt obligations it can't or won't honor.

Of course, as Peter Klein wrote last week, even Trump's suggestion of the US restructuring its debt isn't the doomsday scenario CNBC talking heads have made it out to be, noting that:

[T]he idea that the US can never restructure or even repudiate the national debt -- that US Treasuries must always be treated as a unique and magical "risk-free" investment -- is wildly speculative at best, preposterous at worst.

Murray Rothbard himself advocated for outright repudiating the national debt, arguing:

The government is an organization, so why not liquidate the assets of that organization and pay the creditors (the government bondholders) a pro-rata share of those assets? This solution would cost the taxpayer nothing, and, once again, relieve him of $200 billion in annual interest payments. The United States government should be forced to disgorge its assets, sell them at auction, and then pay off the creditors accordingly.

Trump himself has even touched on the possibility of selling of assets held by the Federal government as a form of debt reduction.[.]

Oops then there was 1979 said caused by word-processing error
so we defaulted on some of them."

c1ue dear friend, the current level of US debt is unsustainable. Never mind the happy cheerleaders promoting mighty U.S. is the wealthiest nation on earth. Have no fear our dollar is good as gold, backed by the full faith and credit of Uncle Sam.

Here is a brief history of U.S.defaults starting with year 1790- LINK

[Nov 30, 2019] Practitioner's Guide to MMT

Part 1 and Part 2
Nov 30, 2019 | themacrotourist.com
              1. Danny November 28, 2019 at 3:27 pm

                Hal,
                Could you please comment on Dylan Ratigan's comment about $128 Billion being automatically pumped into the banker's hands without public comment by Dodd Frank?

                Is it the same thing as a repo? I'm a non-economist, just a simple fellow, that's getting the hang of this con game.

                https://www.greanvillepost.com/2019/11/15/jimmy-dore-with-dylan-ratigan-the-super-rich-have-no-country/

                After the 1 hour 39 minute mark here:
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Dc2ZfpKmo

                Reply
                1. OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL November 28, 2019 at 6:16 pm

                  I watched the Ratigan video on your recommendation and agree it is a fundamental retelling that pulls the elements together better than anything I'd previously seen. And I completely agree with his assessment that this was the biggest theft in mankind's history.

                  The Fed's highest stated purpose is "the integrity and stability of the banking system". Problem is, that mission justifies anything and everything beneath it. They are not in the business of ensuring a bank obeys the law, and if they break the law, even the "business law" of making terrible business decisions, all the Fed thinks they are required to do is make them whole.

                  So you have a radically anti-capitalist structure at the tippy top of a supposedly "capitalist" system. And that's even before you even get to any discussion of secrecy, subterfuge or malfeasance.

                  Why are we not allowed to know who the recipients were of the *$21 trillion* (GAO number) of free Fed money after 2009? All we can do is follow the bread crumbs: we do know, for example, that 2/3rds of those dollars went to European institutions, including non-bank corporations. Huh? Q: That benefits the Main St U.S. economy how, again? A: It doesn't. This means you can pay no attention whatsoever to the ancillary Fed "missions" around U.S. employment and economic growth.

                  The $128B Ratigan mentions re Dodd-Frank is just a trickle in the tsunami of funds reaching bank coffers. Free money of course is funding massive share buybacks, the *only* cause of stock "rises" since 2009, but what completely infuriates me is what banks are doing around buybacks. It's one thing if buybacks benefit *all* shareholders, but the latest trick (esp by Jamie Dimon) is to take free money, buy back JPM shares, *but those shares are only given to Jamie himself and his top managers*.

                  (Of course until 1982 companies borrowing money to buy back their own shares was completely illegal since it's effect is stock price manipulation).

                  Repo is just a shorter term version of all of these other diverted flows. Completely under all radars, with no Congressional hearings or public scrutiny or oversight.

                  End the Fed.

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                  1. Yves Smith Post author November 28, 2019 at 10:46 pm

                    No this is totally wrong and I don't have the time now to debunk it. Ratigan is not a funding markets expert and it shows.

                    Reply
                    1. OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL November 29, 2019 at 1:51 am

                      I always love to be wrong because it means I get to be right again. I'm not a funding market expert either, but I hope you're just correctlng Ratigan's views on the $128B, not the entirety of my ramble? Thx Yves

                  2. cnchal November 28, 2019 at 11:40 pm

                    Interesting comment Dylan made regarding politicians.

                    The political system rewards those that are the best at raising money and character assasination.

                    Trump assassinates his own character better than anyone else. Bernie is great at raising lots of money with small donations from many people.

                    Bernie or bust.

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              2. Yves Smith Post author November 28, 2019 at 10:45 pm

                *Sigh*

                I don't write about the repo mess because the commentary on it is generally terrible. This is not "monetizing debt". This is "providing liquidity to the money markets" which is what the Fed is supposed to do!!!

                The Fed got itself into a corner with super low rates and QE. It also stupidly decided to manage short term rates via interest on reserves. Prior to 2008, the Fed intervened in the repo markets every bloody day to hit the target rate and no one cared.

                The Fed drained liquidity too fast. It's been caught out and has had to go into reverse big time. Its refusal to admit that is why everyone is overreacting to the liquidity injections.

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                1. skippy November 28, 2019 at 11:03 pm

                  You just can't washout that commodity money stain in some peoples minds .

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                2. OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL November 29, 2019 at 1:54 am

                  42 days seems longish to apply to the overnight money markets, no? Macro Voices/Alhambra have a very different perspective

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            1. Yves Smith Post author November 28, 2019 at 10:41 pm

              Yes, MMT proponents oppose a UBI (or BGI). They want a Job Guarantee. They argue that setting a floor on the price of labor is a much more important way to regulate the economy than diddling with interest rates, plus it increases the productive capacity of an economy, which increases prosperity.

              The will accept a UBI that is lower than a JG as a sort of disability income.

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      1. xkeyscored November 28, 2019 at 12:39 pm

        Thank you for that link. It certainly sounds like real life, and they say their models predict inequality in various countries to within 1%.
        Any single agent in this economy could have become the oligarch -- in fact, all had equal odds if they began with equal wealth. In that sense, there was equality of opportunity. But only one of them did become the oligarch, and all the others saw their average wealth decrease toward zero as they conducted more and more transactions. To add insult to injury, the lower someone's wealth ranking, the faster the decrease.
        once we have some variance in wealth, however minute, succeeding transactions will systematically move a "trickle" of wealth upward from poorer agents to richer ones, amplifying inequality until the system reaches a state of oligarchy. If the economy is unequal to begin with, the poorest agent's wealth will probably decrease the fastest. Where does it go? It must go to wealthier agents because there are no poorer agents. Things are not much better for the second-poorest agent. In the long run, all participants in this economy except for the very richest one will see their wealth decay exponentially.
        the presence of symmetry breaking puts paid to arguments for the justness of wealth inequality that appeal to "voluntariness" -- the notion that individuals bear all responsibility for their economic outcomes simply because they enter into transactions voluntarily -- or to the idea that wealth accumulation must be the result of cleverness and industriousness. It is true that an individual's location on the wealth spectrum correlates to some extent with such attributes, but the overall shape of that spectrum can be explained to better than 0.33 percent by a statistical model that completely ignores them.

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        1. JTMcPhee November 28, 2019 at 8:52 pm

          From "The Highlander:" "In the end, there can be only one."

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[Nov 28, 2019] Making Sense of the National Debt

Nov 28, 2019 | research.stlouisfed.org

It will be interesting to see how China responds in reality to the naked hegemony of the US law just passed and signed by Trump about HK. Is China ready to stand up to the bully of dying empire or be cowed into slicing their response even thinner and thinner but not saying NO MORE!

We do live in interesting times.

Transferring my post to this thread, about the decline of US fertility rates:

Japanification of the USA:

Birthrates in the U.S. are falling. Abortions have also hit an all-time low

As we all know, constant population growth is essential for the survival of capitalism, since it is one of the main factors that slow down its tendency of the profit rate to fall. The article seems to agree with this:

Birthrates have been trending downward overall since 2005, sparking concern about potential economic and cultural ramifications. Keeping the number of births within a certain range, called the "replacement level," ensures the population level will remain stable. A low birthrate runs the risk that the country will not be able to replace the workforce and have enough tax revenue, while a high birthrate can cause shortages of resources.

Another related article approaches the issue from another angle:

Social counterrevolution and the decline in US life expectancy

Virginia Commonwealth University professor Dr. Steven H. Woolf and Eastern Virginia Medical School student Heidi Schoomaker analyzed life expectancy data for the years 1959-2016 and cause-specific mortality rates for 1999-2017. The data shows that the decline in life expectancy is not a statistical anomaly, but the outcome of a decades-long assault on the working class.

So, this is not an "anomaly". If it isn't, then there's an underlying cause, which the same article hypothetizes:

Obamacare was part of a deliberate drive by the ruling class to lower the life expectancy of working people. As far as the strategists of American capitalism are concerned, the longer the lifespan of elderly and retired workers, who no longer produce profits for the corporations but require government-subsidized medical care to deal with health issues, the greater the sums that are diverted from the coffers of the rich and the military machine.

A 2013 paper by Anthony H. Cordesman of the Washington think tank Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) frankly presented the increasing longevity of ordinary Americans as an immense crisis for US imperialism. "The US does not face any foreign threat as serious as its failure to come to grips with the rise in the cost of federal entitlement spending," Cordesman wrote, saying the debt crisis was driven "almost exclusively by the rise in federal spending on major health care programs, Social Security, and the cost of net interest on the debt."

Meanwhile, conditions for the rich have never been better. This is reflected in the growing life expectancy gap between the rich and the poor. The richest one percent of men live 14 years longer than the poorest one percent, and the richest one percent of women 10 years longer than the poorest.

I wasn't aware of this CSIS report. If true, then this is indeed a very interesting hypothesis.

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The thing I don't understand in the WSWS article linked above is this:

The first nodal point, in the early 1980s, corresponds to the initiation of the social counterrevolution by the administration of Ronald Reagan, which involved union busting, strikebreaking, wage-cutting and plant closings on a nationwide scale, combined with cuts in education, health care and other social programs.

So, Ronald Reagan did a "counterrevolution". That means there was a revolution before him, which I suppose is the post-war "Keynesian consensus", the "golden age of capitalism" of 1945-1975.

I really can't understand the logic behind the Trotskyists: they condemn the USSR and China as "stalinists", i.e. as counterrevolutionaries. But Harry Truman was a revolutionary? Dwight Eisenhower was a revolutionary? Clement Attlee was a revolutionary? De Gaulle was revolutionary?

What kind of nonsense is this?

What is most funny is that these same Trotskyists from the same WSWS website use the rise of labor strikes in China to argue China is a capitalist empire -- but uses the same strikes as evidence there was a revolution in the West during the post-war (by negative, since Reagan's "counterrevolution" was characterized by "union busting, strikebreaking, wage-cutting and plant closings on a nationwide scale, combined with cuts in education, health care and other social programs").

I think Trotskyism is having an identity crisis. They don't know if they are essentially a movement whose objective is essentially to tarnish Stalin's image or if they are closeted social-democrats. They forgot Trotsky fought for the revolution, not personal vendetta.

Posted by: vk | Nov 28 2019 15:44 utc | 12

[Aug 02, 2019] 'Dr Doom' economist Nouriel Roubini in Bitcoin battle

Aug 02, 2019 | economistsview.typepad.com

(Ron) Weakley , July 23, 2019 at 03:30 AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48852059

'Dr Doom' economist Nouriel Roubini in Bitcoin battle


3 July 2019


Outspoken economist Nouriel Roubini, nicknamed Dr Doom for his gloomy warnings, has caused a stir with his latest attack on Bitcoin and its fellow cryptocurrencies.

Prof Roubini, who foresaw the financial crisis, says Bitcoin is "overhyped".

At a summit in Taiwan on Tuesday, he likened it to a "cesspool".

But his sparring partner at the event, who runs a cryptocurrency exchange, has angered the professor by blocking the release of video of the event.

Arthur Hayes, the chief executive of the BitMex exchange, controls the rights to footage of their debate, which took place during the Asia Blockchain Summit.


In a post on Twitter, Prof Roubini said he "destroyed" Mr Hayes in the debate and called him a "coward" for not making it available...

RC (Ron) Weakley said in reply to RC (Ron) Weakley... , July 23, 2019 at 03:34 AM
Oh, RE: The Great Crypto Heist

Jul 16, 2019 | Nouriel Roubini

https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/cryptocurrency-exchanges-are-financial-scams-by-nouriel-roubini-2019-07


Cryptocurrencies have given rise to an entire new criminal industry, comprising unregulated offshore exchanges, paid propagandists, and an army of scammers looking to fleece retail investors. Yet, despite the overwhelming evidence of rampant fraud and abuse, financial regulators and law-enforcement agencies remain asleep at the wheel.


NEW YORK – There is a good reason why every civilized country in the world tightly regulates its financial system. The 2008 global financial crisis, after all, was largely the result of rolling back financial regulation. Crooks, criminals, and grifters are a fact of life, and no financial system can serve its proper purpose unless investors are protected from them...

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[Go get 'em Doctor Doom. Does he know that this is a feature and not a bug?]

Joe -> RC (Ron) Weakley... , July 23, 2019 at 03:55 AM
Wild traders are a feature, not a bug.

Wild traders are always here, as Doctor Doom points out. They are there when we use rocks, when we used sea shells, when we used paper and now crypto, the wild traders remain.

Regulate as much as Dr. Doom thinks regulators should regulate. But do not deploy government bean counters looking for stone age rocks under our matress, we are using digital crypto instead.

Just yesterday Daimler announce a completely independent hard wallet for crypto use, in a car. They are giving a car all the freedom to hold bearer assets in crypto form. The car needs this to automate much of the car industry functions from gas taxes to used car sales. So tell Dr. Doom to complain about car industry violating financial regulations.

RC (Ron) Weakley said in reply to Joe... , July 23, 2019 at 04:11 AM
The crypto casino was created so that speculators could profit from the money laundering industry that provides investor liquidity to the back end of the human and illegal narcotics trafficking industry. It was built on the anti-bank angst that emerged after the financial crisis. It gives organized crime the legitimacy that they need to spend their enormous wealth that is generated by so many ruined lives. Fools have always run with dicks. They just do not know any better.
Joe -> RC (Ron) Weakley... , July 23, 2019 at 05:39 AM
The crypto casinos were created to automate trading. Crypto insures that a bot trading obeys the prior contract, and thus great simplifies transactions everywhere, from the Fed down to you and me with significant savings, at least 1% increase in productivity.

We have a technology change happening. You get the wildcatters, they don't scare me, so Dr. Doom is likely missing something here. More than likely he is short sided, looking at this one thing and ignoring the fact that this is our 7th or 8th time we have changed money tech. How did we do it last time? Wildcatters, hysterics, and failure to read history. Worked fine then.

RC (Ron) Weakley said in reply to Joe... , July 23, 2019 at 09:51 AM
Crypto currencies are not money. They are just private scrip. Only demand give them exchange value and only crooks and speculators have any demand for scrip born of the daughters of ENIAC. To believe otherwise is to be a sovereign fool.
RC (Ron) Weakley said in reply to RC (Ron) Weakley... , July 23, 2019 at 10:05 AM
Actual automated trading algorithms run on computers all the time and have been for decades now, no cryptocurrencies required.
Julio -> RC (Ron) Weakley... , August 01, 2019 at 07:50 AM
The Empire, in all its wisdom, has declared some countries as illegal, unworthy of using the banking system. And then, sanctioned anyone who does business with those illegals. So, it is illegals all the way down, in our ever-expanding WOE (War On Everyone).

This has generated interest in cryptocurrencies from some of those crooks and criminals (aka "other countries").

Julio -> Joe... , July 23, 2019 at 10:01 AM
You are too focused on the technology. Banks are not there just to conduct transactions, they are there to track them and report to the government. They are required to know something about the people behind the transactions.
RC (Ron) Weakley said in reply to Julio ... , July 23, 2019 at 10:07 AM
Joe appears to miss the significance of underlying technology as much as anything else. Joe's focus is directed somewhere inside his own mind that is separated from any reality that I am aware of.
Joe -> RC (Ron) Weakley... , July 23, 2019 at 11:56 AM
No, we are using cryptography everywhere, from cars to toys to wallets. Dr. Doom fails to see this happening, happening as sure as we switched from metal to paper. Dr. Doom wants more regulation of shadow banking, fine, why not say that out loud?

His ability to regulated shadow bankers has nothing to do with technology. Crypto is no different than the embedded water mark on paper, same technology. Both regulators and regulated have to adapt.

He has created a red Herring, a useless talking point to fool the delusionals, give them some worthless talking point.

RC (Ron) Weakley said in reply to Joe... , July 24, 2019 at 03:40 AM
Duh! Cryptography and cryptocurrencies are not the same thing.
kurt -> Joe... , July 25, 2019 at 04:07 PM
Crypto - the money laundering index.
mulp -> Joe... , July 23, 2019 at 02:26 PM
"Crypto insures that a bot trading obeys the prior contract, and thus great simplifies transactions everywhere, from the Fed down to you and me with significant savings, at least 1% increase in productivity."


Huh?

How does crypto ensure that my wages producing a thousand meals as a food worker will allow me to buy a thousand meals in the future? What I've seen is crypto turning a thousand meals produced into a contracct that will buy two thousand one day, but only 500 the next day.

kurt -> mulp ... , July 25, 2019 at 04:09 PM
Crypto really just wastes a bunch of computing power to solve a problem that only exists if you are trying to hide illegal transactions from governments. Crypto currency is a solution in search of problem unless you are engaged in laundering money, selling large quantities of drugs/guns/people/animals/other illegal products, or buying same. Governments should make it prosecutable wire fraud to use them.
anne -> RC (Ron) Weakley... , July 23, 2019 at 05:14 PM
The Roubini-Hayes video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlZukhN_C6c&t=12s

RC (Ron) Weakley said in reply to anne... , July 24, 2019 at 03:41 AM
thanks

[Jul 31, 2019] Tell me now, how did George Soros get so rich, and why was the Bretton Woods system abandoned?

Jul 31, 2019 | economistsview.typepad.com

David -> reason... ,

Thanks. I referred to Judy Shelton's book for the reasons to support the gold standard. But, I can list some of them here:
1) The gold standard was the core mechanism of Bretton-Woods that worked so well at keeping world prices stable, promoting growth, and tying the money supply to the real economy.
2) Free market currencies have led to speculation taking over from market exchange rates to support trade. Currency trading is ~100x the underlying trade in goods and services.
3) The exchange rates of currencies fluctuate far greater under a free market fiat currency system than under the gold standard
4) Fiat currencies are always subject to political intervention.
5) gold can't be faked or conjured into existence.
6) The gold supply grows about 2%/year, which has been stable for many decades.
7) gold, as a real commodity, ties money to the real economy rather than the financial markets.

canonicalthoughts.blogspot.com

kurt -> David ... , July 16, 2019 at 10:04 AM
1. Under the gold standard prices were much more unstable. This argument doesn't pass even the most modest scrutiny. https://www.minneapolisfed.org/community/financial-and-economic-education/cpi-calculator-information/consumer-price-index-1800

2. This has what to do with the gold standard? There was lots of currency trading under the gold standard. This is primarily a result of algorithmic trading.

3. True - but this is good. Why would this be bad?

4. This is why you have an independent central bank.

5. No but gold can also be hoarded. Please see Krugman's Baby Sitter Klatch article.

6. This is utterly absurd. Gold production stops when the price is too low, ramps up when it is high.

7. How is gold a commodity? 99% of the gold in the world sits in a basement being guarded by governments. It's only value is in making shiny things and the current supply is wildly more than there is demand for said shiny things. Ohhhh, Shiny! does not make something a commodity. If there were any large industrial applications for the metal maybe - but there really isn't.

David -> kurt... , July 16, 2019 at 11:33 AM
Thanks for the good points. Some clarification:
1) By world prices this means the exchange rate. Under Bretton-Woods the price of gold was set at $35/oz and other currencies were pegged to the dollar.
2) If the purpose of currency exchange is to facilitate trade, then this is the tail wagging the dog, and indicates a currency trading system that has become disconnected from its core purpose.
3) Price stability is a core goal of money. So that tomorrow I will be confident of what that money will be worth.
4) Independence is not disinterest. Central banking has shown itself to sway with political winds such as the German central bank in the 1990s, and the US central bank under Nixon.
5) Hoarding of gold, in the sense of cornering the market, is essentially impossible because of the wide distribution of gold in the world and because moving to gold in general would indicate a loss of confidence in a currency, which is good. (as long as we're saying good v. bad).
6) True. production is not that stable, but on average it is fairly constant. See Fig 1. : https://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2002/of02-303/OFR_02-303.pdf
7) Not true. Again see the USGS publication. Most gold goes into jewelry, and so is held by the public. Much of the other gold goes into industry, dental

Total gold in the world, 3.4B troy oz (105,000 t) see: https://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/gold/gold.pdf
Annual production ~2500t, which is about 2.4% of the total.

The reason to prefer gold, besides the above, is that most money created since 1971 has gone into the financial sector rather than the real economy. Thus, workers don't get a real raise, but financial instruments just keep going up with no limit.

http://canonicalthoughts.blogspot.com

reason -> David ... , July 17, 2019 at 08:06 AM
David,
tell me now, how did George Soros get so rich, and why was the Bretton Woods system abandoned?

5. Shows that you don't understand the issue. Hoarding doesn't have to corner the market to be an issue, it's just that rewards people who are creating a problem and so can create a vicious circle.

reason -> reason... , July 17, 2019 at 08:30 AM
P.S. 2% is way too low. Money needs to expand at least enough to match nominal GDP - and that assumes that the rate of savings and circulation velocity are constant. And if prices are absolutely constant how will people ever pay off debts. People have to pay back the nominal capital of a loan. If income/head in nominal terms is relatively constant (in some countries at some times there will be actual deflation) then compared to the current situation in situations of absolute price stability delinquency rates will rise. You quote the 50/60s as a golden - what were inflation rates like then (answer >2% with real growth of >5% so >7% nominal GDP growth)?
David -> RC (Ron) Weakley... , July 16, 2019 at 08:50 AM
Gold is not a great system for a money supply, but its the best one we have so far. Other commodities could be used as the means of value and settlement, but they are far less convenient and have other properties that are not as good as gold.

Perhaps a global crypto currency will take the place of gold in the future? It would need to be of a fixed amount that does not change over time, and secure against hacking. So, maybe not.

canonicalthoughts.blogspot.com

RC (Ron) Weakley said in reply to David ... , July 16, 2019 at 10:11 AM
[Great answer inasmuch as changing the question is always the best answer when one has no answer to some obvious questions.

OTOH, the US dollar based global reserve currency is a problem, although mostly for the US in just general economic terms, but a problem for the entire world in terms of limiting the use of carbon based fuels. Cheap oil is good for the dollar hegemon, but bad for supporting continued human existence on Earth.

Internationally managed reserve currency and FOREX institutional arrangements along the lines of Keynes's Bancor might be a better idea. Crypto currency is an invitation to black market traffickers and hackers. Primary support is from drug and sex trafficking. So, what is not to love?

The hard money crew in the US defeated Keynes's Bancor proposal at the Bretton Woods conference and basically all of the problems that the gold bugs complain about today have been the results of following their preferred policy path after WWII.]

https://theweek.com/articles/626620/how-john-maynard-keynes-most-radical-idea-could-save-world

How John Maynard Keynes' most radical idea could save the world

As the Second World War was drawing to a close, the economic experts of the Allies met in a New Hampshire resort to try to hammer out an international monetary system that would help prevent a recurrence of the Great Depression. The ensuing debate centered around two main proposals, one from the British delegation and one from the American. John Maynard Keynes, the greatest economist of the 20th century, presented the British case while Harry Dexter White, one of FDR's key economic advisers, presented the American one.

Keynes lost on many key points. The result was the Bretton Woods system, named after the small town in which the conference was held. As part of the agreement, it also created what would later become the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank. That served as the system of managing international trade and currencies for nearly three decades. Today the IMF and World Bank survive, but Bretton Woods was broken in 1971 when Nixon suspended the convertibility of the dollar into gold.

Yet most of the problems that spurred the creation of Bretton Woods have since returned in only somewhat less dire form. It's worth returning to Keynes' original, much more ambitious idea for an international institution to manage the flow of goods and money around the globe.


The basic problem with international trade is that imbalances can develop: Some countries get big export surpluses, while others necessarily develop big trade deficits (since the world cannot be in surplus or deficit with itself). And because countries typically must borrow to finance trade deficits, it's a quick and easy recipe for a crash in those countries when their ability to take on more debt reaches its limit. It's not as bad for surplus countries, since they will not have a debt crisis or a collapse in the value of their currency, but they too will be hurt by the loss of export markets. This problem has haunted nations since well before the Industrial Revolution.

Nations like Germany with a large export surplus often portray it as resulting from their superior virtue and technical skill. But the fundamental reality of such a surplus is that it requires someone to buy the exports. As Yanis Varoufakis points out in his new book, without some sort of permanent mechanism to recycle that surplus back into deficit countries, the result will be eventual disaster. It's precisely what caused the initial economic crisis in Greece that is still ongoing.

Bretton Woods addressed this problem with a set of rather ad hoc measures. The dollar would be pegged to a particular amount of gold, and semi-fixed exchange rates for other currencies were to be fixed around that. In keeping with White's more orthodox economic views, all trade imbalances were to be solved on the deficit side. There was no limit to the surplus nations could build up (importantly, at the time the U.S. was a huge exporter), and the IMF was tasked with shoring up countries having serious trade deficit problems by enforcing austerity and tight money. (This would lead to repeated disaster for developing countries.)

Keynes' idea, by contrast, was substantially more ambitious. He proposed an overarching "International Clearing Union" that potentially every country in the world could join. It would create a new reserve currency, the "bancor," that could only be used for settling international accounts, and member nations would pay a membership quota in proportion to their total trade. Countries in surplus would receive bancor credit, while those in deficit would have a negative account.

The union was also explicitly aimed at facilitating increased trade overall (also unlike Bretton Woods). And critically, it would incentivize nations to keep their trade balanced on both sides -- surplus and deficit. Run too far into deficit, and a country would be required to devalue to reduce imports. But run too far into surplus, and a country's currency would be required to appreciate so as to increase imports. A bancor tax would also be levied at an increasing rate on anyone with a large trade imbalance.


There's much more to the story, but the fundamental idea is fairly simple. As Keynes wrote in his original proposal, the basic "principle is the necessary equality of credits and debits, of assets and liabilities. If no credits can be removed outside the clearing system but only transferred within it, the Union itself can never be in difficulties."

For the postwar generation, Bretton Woods worked tolerably well -- and it certainly was a vast improvement on the prewar gold standard. But its mechanisms were far less legible, and required constant good-faith efforts from various nations, particularly Germany and the U.S., to work properly. More importantly, it relied on large American surpluses to soak up the huge aid that was being sent to Europe under the Marshall Plan, a goodly portion of which was used to buy American-made exports. When the U.S. moved to deficit, the system broke down within only a few years.


Keynes' plan, by contrast, would likely have had the flexibility to adapt to a massive 180 degree shift in the balance of trade. It is also far more transparent and comprehensible to average people, perhaps disrupting the excessive pride of surplus countries to some extent. And if it were to be created in the future, it would be under effective supervision from the member states. The vast carnage inflicted by the unaccountable, supranational European Central Bank is too stark to ignore.

It would undoubtedly take years and years to build and update Keynes proposal to where it might be implemented. But the problems it is designed to address will always keep cropping up. Perhaps after the eurozone implodes, the world will get another chance to do it right.


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[The rallying cry of the gold bugs is "Idiots of the world unite," which is very effective given the considerable majority held by idiots in the electorates of republics and among their controlling elites both public and private.]


David -> RC (Ron) Weakley... , July 16, 2019 at 11:42 AM
Under Bretton-Woods no trade imbalances were possible because of the settlement mechanism in gold. The deficit nations (that imported more than exported) would have to settle by transferring gold out in the amount of the deficit. Thus, in effect selling the commodity of gold for the excess imports. This all works well if the imbalances are periodically settled by the gold transfers, which didn't happen as many countries simply held onto the currencies, and if trade is balanced.

Balance of trade is the key to stable trade. All imbalances eventually come back into balance. The question is: will this happen in a smooth orderly manner, like under Bretton-Woods, or in a calamity where for example the dollar crashes?

http://canonicalthoughts.blogspot.com

RC (Ron) Weakley said in reply to David ... , July 16, 2019 at 12:16 PM
"...This all works well if the imbalances are periodically settled by the gold transfers, which didn't happen as many countries simply held onto the currencies, and if trade is balanced..."

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[You are getting warmer, but still no cigar and a whole lot of cart before the horse. What happened under the original Bretton Woods agreement was that surplus traders held onto their US dollar reserves while convertibility (more to silver than gold - which we hold) kept the US dollar from becoming overvalued under the simultaneous pressures of what remained small US trade deficits and growing foreign reserves of US dollars. This was not a gold standard per se, but rather the establishment of the US dollar, the currency of the dominant global economic power, as the global reserve currency for foreign held reserves and also the dominant currency of international trade exchange. Trade remained relatively well balanced because convertibility limited how overvalued the dollar could maintain itself under trade deficits despite its broadly held status as the dominate global reserve currency.

The end of Bretton Woods US dollar convertibility saw growing US trade deficits with simultaneous growth in US dollar denominated foreign reserves and an over-valued dollar which just accelerated US trade deficits even further. Bigger US trade deficits just fed into even larger USD foreign reserves. It was a vicious cycle of dollar over-valuation despite growing US trade deficits because surplus partners had relatively secure means of holding large USD reserves. The world's high demand for dollars was great for rentiers, arbitrage seekers, and global corporations. Trading partners could hold USD reserves to keep their currencies undervalued relative to the USD more successfully than with convertibility. OTOH, the US gained cheap access to global oil reserves and also US multinational corporations gained global price arbitrage advantages if they were willing to offshore much labor to countries with currencies undervalued relative to the dollar or merely countries with lower standards of living (i.e., real wages) and environmental protection standards for industrial production. Winning all three together on the same US dollar capital flow was the global price arbitrage trifecta. ]

David -> RC (Ron) Weakley... , July 16, 2019 at 01:21 PM
The US could have had it both ways in the sense that it could have run budget deficits by monetizing the dollar and causing inflation as it was starting to do in the late 1960s and maintain the international exchange rate. The mechanism to do this is US tariffs. This would have made imports to the US expensive and kept all those excess dollars from flowing overseas. The rational is balance of trade. As long as the current account is balanced the Bretton-Woods system would continue to function.
RC (Ron) Weakley said in reply to David ... , July 16, 2019 at 02:22 PM
The US went all in on free trade and eliminating tariffs when it implemented the income tax system to finance government operations spending in 1913. At the time the US dollar was underpriced against most European currencies in FOREX, particularly the pound sterling, and the US had a growing trade surplus which eventually contributed significantly to the settlements crisis under the gold standard that was a major cause for precipitating the Great Depression. Once that path was taken it became difficult to turn back since the wealthy build their rentier and arbitrage systems upon the world that is rather than some world that might be. Policy makers rely upon the stock of wealth both for campaign contributions and to raise their miserable lives into something of elite significance because of who they hang out with and in turn whose interests that they serve.

I understand it that if a frog had wings then it would not bump its ass every time that it leaped.

reason -> David ... , July 18, 2019 at 05:18 AM
The US consistently ran a trade surplus during the Bretton Woods period, but Bretton Woods was based on US dollars. So the world was being drained of US dollars (or the rest of the world of Gold). That is clearly not sustainable. There is a problem with unbalanced trade if it is either direction. Under Bretton Woods there was no penalty for mercantilism. You just need to know history to no that financial crises are nothing new and that a gold standard didn't prevent them, but in fact exacerbated them. I don't where you get your ideas from, but you should go back and read some history.
David -> reason... , July 17, 2019 at 10:32 AM
Yes, this beats around the bush as they say.

The real questions are:
1) During Bretton-Woods worker compensation grew with growth in productivity, but since the withdrawal in 1971, worker compensation has been flat. Why? And how to re-mediate this?
2) Why has so much of GDP shifted to financial speculation and away from the productive economy? And how to shift economic activity back to the productive sector?
3) Given our use of fiat currency, what limits the growth of the money supply in the financial sector? That is, what prevents financial instruments that are disconnected from the productive economy from creating an endless cycle of: new instruments drives new money to buy them, rinse and repeat...

anne -> David ... , July 17, 2019 at 04:46 PM
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=lSfN

January 30, 2018

Nonfarm business productivity and real compensation, 1948-2018

(Percent change)


https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=lSfP

January 30, 2018

Nonfarm business productivity and real compensation, 1948-2018

(Indexed to 1948)

David -> anne... , July 18, 2019 at 06:11 AM
Anne, thanks for the graphs.

The second one in particular lays out the issue quite clearly. It literally forms an arrow with the tip pointing to the divergent point where something major happened to create such a stark and durable systematic change.

reason -> David ... , July 19, 2019 at 02:19 AM
This is classical cargo cult thinking, these two things are correlated so one must have caused the other. There were lots of things changed at that time, I was there, I followed the debates (in which the world basically decided to follow some of what Milton Friedman said - and ignored some other things that he said - like negative interest rates and that money supply expansion should come mostly from expanding the central bank balance sheet - see also Robert Waldmann's explanation that Lucas and Friedman are methodical opposites and yet both belong to the "Chicago School"). You have to not only note a correlation, but also show the mechanism and control for other factors. Get to it.
reason -> reason... , July 19, 2019 at 02:37 AM
For your amusement.
http://ok-cleek.com/blogs/?p=27691
David -> reason... , July 19, 2019 at 04:31 AM
I agree, and am working on just that.
reason -> reason... , July 19, 2019 at 12:59 PM
oops - not negative interest rates - negative income tax.
reason -> David ... , July 18, 2019 at 12:19 AM
1. Other things happened at the same time (see tariffs, changes in laws related to unions, containerization and also relaxation of capital controls and banking regulation). You went from a world of relatively isolated economies (especially the US) to a world of tightly integrated economies. Bretton Woods fall had almost nothing to do with it.
2. Washington consensus that budget deficits are bad and monetary policy (i.e. encouraging private debt) are good. We need to expand the central bank balance sheet in line with nominal GDP and reduce private indebtedness again.

As I said read "Between Debt and the Devil".

reason -> reason... , July 18, 2019 at 12:27 AM
Not to mention what was happening demographically (which was massive). Sorry, I really should not have forgotten that. The real world matters.
David -> reason... , July 19, 2019 at 04:38 AM
True, but whatever the cause, to have such a sharp and clear divergence, one or more significant changes had to happen in a short span of time. Do those things mentioned above add up to enough of a cumulative durable change?
reason -> David ... , July 19, 2019 at 12:58 PM
But it wasn't a SHARP divergence at all. I actually wish that Anne had done the chart in terms of rates of change. Having it in terms of levels hides more than it shows. But think about this - there was a reason that Bretton Woods was abandoned - it didn't happen in a vacuum. Maybe you should ask why that happened.
Paine -> David ... , July 17, 2019 at 12:14 PM
Commodity money
Is our new friends preference

And as commodities go gold has a number of advantages
Over say concrete blocks or diamonds

Lots of clever souls would like to use an exchange medium that
Wasn't subject to modern state financial casuistry
And usually they aren't overly focused on the existing
Unregulated market systems hitches and loops
and
Perversities

Paine -> Paine ... , July 17, 2019 at 12:19 PM
The Recalcitrance of markets has always been a wish away reality

And price systems are often reified into angel dust

And shipped from Chicago FOB

mulp -> RC (Ron) Weakley... , July 17, 2019 at 04:15 PM
Cold mining costs have always tracked the monetary price of gold. Aka, the marginal price of a new ounce is the monetary price.

To get the cost of mining goold down to $20 in the late 20s, food, housing prices had tlo fall by slashing wages which cut demand for food forcing prices of food down by forcing wages down, thus gold miners could eat enough food to mine an ounce of gold.

When FDR set the price government paid for gold to $35 dollars, the number of gold miners, and gold ounces mined doubled in less than a year, and stayed up until government prohibited gold mining to reallocate labor to the war industrial production.

What we don't see is the actual marginal costs of gold mining in either the short or long run. The global gold mining cartel keeps all the data secret, eg, South Africa, Russia, which produce about half the gold aannually. They can easily bankrupt a big corporation investing in a new big mineing and refining operation by releasing some of their massive gold hoard at prices just below the corporation marginal cost plus debt service. The big driver of gold demand is Asia and Muslim consumption for gold hoops and rings so people, especially women have their wealth with them at all times.

anne -> mulp ... , July 17, 2019 at 04:40 PM
Aside:

MULP made an assertion a couple of days ago that there were far more empty beds in the country now that several decades ago. I questioned the assertion, since there was no supporting data, but now I am finding the data in Census tracts and know MULP was correct. Family and household sizes have been declining for decades.

Thank you MULP.

[Jul 22, 2019] As with all things public and private, public money is not required to make a profit, but in contrast, private money has no other reason to exist than to make a profit.

Jul 22, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

Grieved , Jul 22 2019 5:46 utc | 107

Regarding money, and the difference between private and public money.

As with all things public and private, public money is not required to make a profit, but in contrast, private money has no other reason to exist than to make a profit.

What we call money in the US, is privately owned. It is actually a promissory note, the signifier of a loan made to those who hold the note. This is how US money comes into existence.

We could trade coconut shells, or beads, but we trade promissory notes. They are legal tender by law. And they fulfill the role of money pretty well. But we the people do not ultimately own those obligations.

Public money is issued out of the same thin air as private money, but not as a debt, simply as an issuance. The bills do their job for exchange and storage, and circulate until being retired as taxes and the like. No one pays interest on that money.

Public money doesn't charge interest. Private money charges interest. This is the only difference, and this difference is killing us and destroying the entire world.

~~

Professor Richard Werner illustrates nicely how a mortgage comes into existence through a bank, which doesn't actually create money in this loan, but purchases a promissory note from the home buyer. It is this promissory note that then enters the public record as new money, which we then trade like sea shells - happy children, except that we now will pay interest of more than 100 percent over the next 30 years. This interest is the profit on the private money.

The Finance Curse

You'll find the mortgage part specifically around 16:15.

~~

As to all the rest, there is much more collateral, including the flagship work by Helen Brown. Sorry I have no time to supply more links.

But I'm surprised to see so much wordy ignorance here on the subject, which is actually very simple (although obfuscated, of course). Thanks to psychohistorian and karlof1 and others who show that the good economists are all calling for public money which charges no interest. And the communists and socialists do this as a matter of course.

As Hudson ended in his address cited by b and discussed here: "nations face a choice between socialism and barbarism" .

Neoliberal economics and private finance is this very barbarism. It is accompanied by fascism, oppression and the utter loss of freedom. As I cited in my previous comment, Dambisa Moyo suggests very cogently that economic sufficiency undergirds democratic freedom. The corollary is obvious: as we get more impoverished, freedom flees away.

~~

Interest charged on a loan is a claim on wealth that it doesn't create. It therefore steals existing wealth in order to be redeemed. That's where our wealth went, and why we're all so broke.

A loan for a productive purpose that will create new wealth can hopefully afford to slice some of this new wealth off to pay the interest. It's still usury. But any loan at interest that doesn't create wealth - such as a mortgage that simply buys an existing asset - is something vastly more wicked.

[Jul 22, 2019] T>here's a fundamental difference between debt in the past and debt today. In the past debt was owed to the state, today it's owed to some wealthy corporations. Good luck with debt jubilees in the absence of violent uprisings.

Notable quotes:
"... As Mael Colium says, the US picks off individual countries by isolating them. ..."
"... there's a fundamental difference between debt in the past and debt today. In the past debt was owed to the state, today it's owed to some wealthy corporations. Good luck with debt jubilees in the absence of violent uprisings. ..."
"... The difference is they internalize profit and externalize cost. And that's fundamentally different from all other epochs in the past. Even the birth of nation state was out of their rationalization of how to maximize profit extraction and cost externalization in the 1st place. Good luck with debt jubilees. ..."
"... How would this occur aside from a repudiation of the almighty buck one wonders, and would it be based on reserves in the vault, or actual use as money? ..."
"... The Eurozone and China could run trade deficits, thereby creating an opportunity for their currencies to become reasonably viable alternative reserves. But they don't because they don't want to cede control of their manufacturing and export-driven economic bases away. ..."
"... The sine qua non of our economic empire (which I learned here) is that a global currency requires global trade deficits, which must grow as quickly as the global economy to fulfill its role. ..."
"... So American deficits are structural. Our debt-ceiling controversies are theater. And our dollar is exceptional until the instant it isn't–then the Fed electron-tranfers trillions more to the speculators whose notional dollars just evaporated, keeping the currencies in the air with their new casino chips. Is this a loan? A gift? An electron cloud? It's the fog of war by other means . . . ..."
"... Resources and the critical health of the planet bother me a lot. Money and "gold" are, in the end, both fictitious obsessions. ..."
"... You'll find few authors willing to provide their seminal work for free online– 2nd Edition PDF . I think it fair for those unfamiliar with Hudson's work to read his analysis prior to being judgmental. ..."
Jul 22, 2019 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

"On a similar note, I've wondered why Russia has not defaulted on it's considerable USD and EUR debt (also too, why is Russia still doing debt in USD and thus strengthening U.S.?)"

It should be noted that Russia has almost zero foreign public debt and that the private foreign debt has been much reduced and now amounts to US dollars 450 billion.

As Russia has a surplus of more than US dollars 100 billion on the current account the total foreign debt amounts to 4 years current account surplus only.

Ad to this that Russias international currency reserves amounts to ca. US dollars 500 billion which meens that Russia is in a very strong fiscal position as it is capable of paying off its entire foreign debt any time it chooses.


Ian Perkins , July 21, 2019 at 9:16 am

Along the same lines, the summary starts with, "The first existential objective is to avoid the current threat of war by winding down U.S. military interference in foreign countries and removing U.S. military bases as relics of neocolonialism."

Either would be taken as proof of evil anti-US intentions, leading to sanctions, coups, assassinations, regime change, and eventually outright war. As Mael Colium says, the US picks off individual countries by isolating them.

Off The Street , July 21, 2019 at 9:19 am

Peripherally related MMT 2nd of 3 articles

jsn , July 21, 2019 at 11:50 am

When we have MMT paying for arts, history, journalism and particularly editors, I won't be so irritated by these kinds of criticisms.

We live in a very advanced world of Bernaysian propaganda where the communicative industries are privately owned and directed to ensure deep criticisms of the hyper-exploitative current reality CANNOT be published and promoted.

When someone takes the effort to produce something, like this or the book other commenters on this thread are also slighting, at great personal expense to themselves without corporate backing or institutional support, a decent reply would be "Thank you!", rather than tasking them or our hosts here at this site to "go back and clean up this mess??"

If you had any decency, you might suggest clarifying edits in comments, like changing "– so that it can taxing its own citizens." at the end of the 23rd paragraph to, "– so that it can avoid taxing its own citizens", to help the people you are criticizing for making things so difficult for you.

Jonathan Holland Becnel , July 21, 2019 at 1:43 pm

Michael Hudson is a modern day Saint! Who cares about a few typos when his ideas are truly REVOLUTIONARY!

For example, i had no idea about Debt Jubilees in early civilizations 3000 years ago! The pyramids built by FREE MEN! Liberty and Freedom originating from canceling debts! Torches and Beacons of light as representatives of said Debt Jubilees!

If you ask me, the #HudsonHawk is trying to awaken the Workers of the World in Forgiveness, Peace, Love, and Solidarity.

HUDSON 2024

softie , July 21, 2019 at 3:27 pm

I didn't know that until I read anthropologist David Graeber's Debt: The First 5,000 Years.

But there's a fundamental difference between debt in the past and debt today. In the past debt was owed to the state, today it's owed to some wealthy corporations. Good luck with debt jubilees in the absence of violent uprisings.

Kurtismayfield , July 21, 2019 at 5:20 pm

And those corporations get favorable rates on money printed by the government.. and the government backs trillions in mortgage and student loans.

Not much different.

softie , July 21, 2019 at 10:22 pm

The difference is they internalize profit and externalize cost. And that's fundamentally different from all other epochs in the past. Even the birth of nation state was out of their rationalization of how to maximize profit extraction and cost externalization in the 1st place. Good luck with debt jubilees.

Wukchumni , July 21, 2019 at 10:15 am

That is why Russia, China and other powers that U.S. strategists deem to be strategic rivals and enemies are looking to restore gold's role as the preferred asset to settle payments imbalances.

How would this occur aside from a repudiation of the almighty buck one wonders, and would it be based on reserves in the vault, or actual use as money?

Keep in mind that there isn't a human alive now who ever proffered a monetized gold coin in order to purchase something, and increasingly relatively few that have ever used a monetized silver coin for the same purpose.

Clive , July 21, 2019 at 10:44 am

I don't have a huge amount of sympathy. The Eurozone and China could run trade deficits, thereby creating an opportunity for their currencies to become reasonably viable alternative reserves. But they don't because they don't want to cede control of their manufacturing and export-driven economic bases away.

The US doesn't mind and doesn't care about the domestic repercussions. For how much longer that can continue, especially as Trump's America First policy is putting that under some strain, is an open question. But for now, it's willing to be satisfied with a little rowing back rather than wholesale reversal (back to, for example, an immediate-post war position of significant trade surpluses although the article is correct to point out this was due to the US being the last man standing, in terms of having a manufacturing base still intact).

The Eurozone and China are not only not showing any signs of a policy change, they've continued embedding and strengthening the current modus operandi. You pays your money, you takes your choices. Here as elsewhere. If they'd rather not have the US$ having a more-or-less monopoly position in then global financial system as a reserve currency, they'll need to make the compromises needed to set up these challenger currencies as viable alternatives.

But they can't have their economic cakes and eat them, too.

And it's not just currencies. You need legal systems which are deemed to be (which can only come through real, observational experience) investor-friendly -- not just prone to supporting or at the very least given an easy ride to domestic stalwarts. Again, this has repercussions if you then have to stop cosseting domestic "champions". The US legal system is ridiculously business friendly. But it doesn't, overtly, differentiate between US and non-US companies in a commercial dispute.

barefoot charley , July 21, 2019 at 11:31 am

The sine qua non of our economic empire (which I learned here) is that a global currency requires global trade deficits, which must grow as quickly as the global economy to fulfill its role. Tell that to Germany! If your silly little euro or yen or renminbi tries to go global, the dollar-based currency speculators will shrivel it like Soros did the pound in the 90s.

So American deficits are structural. Our debt-ceiling controversies are theater. And our dollar is exceptional until the instant it isn't–then the Fed electron-tranfers trillions more to the speculators whose notional dollars just evaporated, keeping the currencies in the air with their new casino chips. Is this a loan? A gift? An electron cloud? It's the fog of war by other means . . .

It may have been Hudson who explained that a quarter (or was it half?) of all corporate profits after WWII went to American companies, when our economy was that much of the world's. Now we're a much smaller fraction of the global economy, but our corporate sector still profits as much as it did when it was producing, rather than marketing, real goods. Another exceptional achievement.

Summer , July 21, 2019 at 1:20 pm

Really all we know is that such a plan would create a different order. That so many countries have continued to pauper their populations long after the obviousness that "development" is a sham doesn't bode well for their intentions even after the USA is brought to heel.

hunkerdown , July 22, 2019 at 5:20 am

Agreed. The likes of the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership are still under negotiation and still, like every other multilateral investment agreement of recent vintage, apparently primarily concerned with creating supranational rights for landlords, especially of the absentee variety, at the expense of citizens in their collective capacity.

Susan the other` , July 21, 2019 at 2:30 pm

This is a good summary of our irrational world. MMT and the GND can save the situation but only if we industrialized humans forego any more fossil fuels except for long-term survival purposes. Ration it with draconian discipline. That in turn will discipline our military and turn our energies to things we can no longer ignore. Money doesn't bother me much. Resources and the critical health of the planet bother me a lot. Money and "gold" are, in the end, both fictitious obsessions.

karlof1 , July 21, 2019 at 4:56 pm

Thanks for providing this transcript prior to Hudson posting it to his own website. He was the first political-economist to lay out the Outlaw US Empire's game plan when he published Super Imperialism: The Economic Strategy of American Empire in 1972.

You'll find few authors willing to provide their seminal work for free online– 2nd Edition PDF . I think it fair for those unfamiliar with Hudson's work to read his analysis prior to being judgmental.

[Jul 22, 2019] I think Calvin and his role in today's debt based monetary system is much underestimated

Jul 22, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

Alexander P , Jul 22 2019 13:09 utc | 138

@84 Karlof1

I think Calvin and his role in today's debt based monetary system is much underestimated. The meteoric rise of the seven provinces and what was to become the Dutch colonial empire was in no small part funded and financed by this debt based system in the latter half of the 16th century. The same applied shortly afterwards to the UK. The book passage I quoted from is from Devaluing the Scholastics: Calvin's Ethics of Usury .

[Jul 22, 2019] The world is in WWIII which is between private and public finance. To characterize the private finance side as being just the US is obfuscation

Jul 22, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

psychohistorian , Jul 21 2019 15:20 utc | 2

I read the Michael Hudson piece and shake my head at the manifest obfuscation at play

The world is in WWIII which is between private and public finance. To characterize the private finance side as being just the US is obfuscation

Global private finance exists outside the bounds of any one nation state and the US is just the current face of the centuries of empires under this model.

Why is the West unable to have a discussion about the core component to the world war we are engaged in?

Sad comment on the successful brainwashing at work here.....that is why I call the web site Michael Hudson's writing is provided at ALMOST Naked Capitalism

Wake the rest of the way up fellow humans of the West.

John Merryman , Jul 21 2019 15:39 utc | 4

psychohistorian,

The essential problem is that money functions as a contract, with one side an asset and the other a debt, but as we experience it as quantified hope and security, we try to save and store it. Thus Econ 101 tells us it is both medium of exchange and store of value. Even though one is dynamic and the other is static, like blood and fat, or roads and parking lots.

Necessarily then, in order to store the asset side, generally equal amounts of debt have to be manufactured and this creates a centripetal effect, as positive feedback pulls the asset side to the center of the economy, while negative feedback accumulates the debt on the fringes.
The ancients used debt jubilees to push the reset button, but since we have been conditioned to think of money as private property, not a public medium, now the only way to reset is for societal collapse.

Value, as a savings for the future, needs to be stored in tangibles, like strong social and environmental networks, not as abstractions in the financial circulation system. The functionality of money is in its fungibility. We own it like we own the section of road we are using, or the fluids passing through our bodies.
We are also conditioned to think of ourselves as individuals, not as parts of a larger community, so this social atomization enables finance to mediate most transactions and tax them. A figurative version of The Matrix.

John Merryman , Jul 21 2019 15:49 utc | 7
psycho,

I was pretty much banned from NC for questioning MMT. Yves called me a troll. The exchange is jan 6, in the links post.

Consequently I'll only try posting very occasionally and one or two have gone through moderation.

My view in MMT is that either these people are extremely naive, or operatives for the oligarchy, as there is no free lunch and the public issuing ever more promises only drives it further into debt. Which is then accumulated by the oligarchy and eventually traded for remaining public assets. It's basic predatory lending/disaster capitalism and has been going on since the dawn of civilization.
Not that people are not often incredibly stupid, but I suspect some recognize the dynamic. When you start having to pay tolls on most roads, you will know we are way down that rabbit hole.

Bemildred , Jul 21 2019 16:06 utc | 8
John Merryman @7: Sure there are free lunches, Uncle Sugar has been getting lots of free lunches ever since WWII. The thing about free lunches is those situations cannot be permanent in a growth economy. To have permanent free lunches you have to have an ecologically stable economy and a stable population consuming it. In other words, you can't get too greedy.
Russ , Jul 21 2019 16:17 utc | 11
What's ridiculous is to fall for the "public vs. private" scam, one of the most potent divide-and-conquer scams of the corporate state, where in reality there's zero distinction between public and private power.

Power is power, and the finance sector is purely wasteful, purely destructive, serves zero legitimate purpose, and needs to be abolished as a necessary part of any kind of human liberation.

Of course the Mammon religion has brainwashed almost everyone into believing, among other lies, that the dominion of money is necessary for human existence. Never mind that the vast majority of societies didn't use money for more than a few special transactions, and many didn't use it at all. Almost all of those societies were humanly more wholesome than this one, and all of them were less ecologically destructive by many orders of magnitude.

bevin , Jul 21 2019 16:22 utc | 12
"The ancients used debt jubilees to push the reset button, but since we have been conditioned to think of money as private property, not a public medium, now the only way to reset is for societal collapse."
John Merryman @4

There are compromises in this business: debt repudiation being an obvious one.
It is easy enough to make a case for declaring large parts of the public debt, odious. This is particularly true of the enormous debts run up by Public-Private Partnerships of the sort that the former UK Premier Brown promoted so enthusiastically. But it is generally true of debts contracted for purposes which contradict the public interest.
Debt used to make deposits in private bank accounts in the Caymans for example can justifiably be repudiated by the public, particularly when the creditor was well aware that its loans were going to be employed for corrupt purposes.
Most of the US Debt, contracted to finance the MIC, is not only odious on general grounds (Defending what against whom?) but on a contract to contract basis, most contracts being padded to ensure the ability to provide kickbacks: when Congressmen receive funds from government contractors and 'public servants', including military types, get jobs/sinecures from the same, then any money borrowed to finance such contracts is, clearly, odious.

It would be revolutionary no doubt but perfectly practicable to push a 'reset' button on the Public Debt by proclaiming that, in future, all borrowing for purposes not approved or understood the putative taxpayer would be found to be odious.

Another possible course would be to stop paying interest on public debt and issue bonds to repay the capital amounts lent.

The fact that such options are understood would make the regular claims, by neo-liberals pushing austerity, that there is no money for such things as social security or living wages, an obvious trigger for debt reduction measures designed to impact the rich rather than their victims.

fastfreddy , Jul 21 2019 16:31 utc | 13
Predators and Prey. But the prey believe themselves to be predators also, or at least to have the potential to become predators should they win the lotto.

"Send Her Back!, Send Her Back!"

[Jul 06, 2019] Neoliberal economics and other fairytales about money by Peter McKenna

Notable quotes:
"... Aditya Chakrabortty ( It's reckless. But a Tory cash splurge could win an election , 3 July) is right to point out the hypocrisy of the political right about public expenditure. While progressive proposals for public spending are decried as burdening the hard-pressed taxpayer, the right is happy to use public money to rescue the banks or boost their electoral chances. ..."
"... As I explain in my book Money: Myths, Truths and Alternatives, neoliberal economics is built on a fairytale about money that distorts our view of how a contemporary public money system operates. It is assumed that public spending depends on extracting money from the market and that money (like gold) is always in short supply. Neither is true. Both the market and the state generate money – the market through bank lending and the state through public spending. Both increase the money supply, while bank loan repayments and taxation reduce it. There is no natural shortage of money – which today mainly exists only as data. ..."
Jul 04, 2019 | www.theguardian.com

Neoliberal economics and other fairytales about money Politics is not about a struggle over a fixed pot of money, says Mary Mellor, and the best way to end austerity is to reject it as an ideology, says Peter McKenna

Aditya Chakrabortty ( It's reckless. But a Tory cash splurge could win an election , 3 July) is right to point out the hypocrisy of the political right about public expenditure. While progressive proposals for public spending are decried as burdening the hard-pressed taxpayer, the right is happy to use public money to rescue the banks or boost their electoral chances.

As I explain in my book Money: Myths, Truths and Alternatives, neoliberal economics is built on a fairytale about money that distorts our view of how a contemporary public money system operates. It is assumed that public spending depends on extracting money from the market and that money (like gold) is always in short supply. Neither is true. Both the market and the state generate money – the market through bank lending and the state through public spending. Both increase the money supply, while bank loan repayments and taxation reduce it. There is no natural shortage of money – which today mainly exists only as data.

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The case for austerity missed the point. Politics is not about a struggle over a fixed pot of money. What is limited are resources (particularly the environment) and human capacity. How these are best used should be a matter of democratic debate. The allocation of money should depend on the priorities identified. In this the market has no more claim than the public economy to be the source of sustainable human welfare.
Professor Mary Mellor
Newcastle upon Tyne

• Over the years Aditya Chakrabortty has provided us with powerful critiques of austerity. His message now – that EU membership "is the best way to end austerity" – overlooks the fact that the UK was in the EU all that time.

Moreover, the EU's stability and growth pact requires that budget deficits and public debt be pegged below 3% and 60% of GDP respectively.

Such notions are the beating heart of austerity, and the European commission's excessive deficit procedure taken against errant states has almost universally resulted in swingeing austerity programmes. These were approved and monitored by the commission and council, with the UK only taken off the naughty step in 2017 after years of crippling austerity finally reduced the deficit to 2.3% of GDP.

The best way to end austerity – and to sway voters – is to reject austerity as an ideology regardless of remain or leave, and rehabilitate the concept of public investment in a people's economy.
Peter McKenna

[Jul 05, 2019] The World Bank and IMF 2019 by Michael Hudson and Bonnie Faulkner

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... The purpose of a military conquest is to take control of foreign economies, to take control of their land and impose tribute. The genius of the World Bank was to recognize that it's not necessary to occupy a country in order to impose tribute, or to take over its industry, agriculture and land. Instead of bullets, it uses financial maneuvering. As long as other countries play an artificial economic game that U.S. diplomacy can control, finance is able to achieve today what used to require bombing and loss of life by soldiers ..."
"... It was set up basically by the United States in 1944, along with its sister institution, the International Monetary Fund (IMF). Their purpose was to create an international order like a funnel to make other countries economically dependent on the United States ..."
"... American diplomats insisted on the ability to veto any action by the World Bank or IMF. The aim of this veto power was to make sure that any policy was, in Donald Trump's words, to put America first. "We've got to win and they've got to lose." ..."
"... The World Bank was set up from the outset as a branch of the military, of the Defense Department. John J. McCloy (Assistant Secretary of War, 1941-45), was the first full-time president ..."
"... Many countries had two rates: one for goods and services, which was set normally by the market, and then a different exchange rate that was managed for capital movements. That was because countries were trying to prevent capital flight. They didn't want their wealthy classes or foreign investors to make a run on their own currency – an ever-present threat in Latin America. ..."
"... The IMF and the World Bank backed the cosmopolitan classes, the wealthy. Instead of letting countries control their capital outflows and prevent capital flight, the IMF's job is to protect the richest One Percent and foreign investors from balance-of-payments problems ..."
"... The IMF enables its wealthy constituency to move their money out of the country without taking a foreign-exchange loss ..."
"... Wall Street speculators have sold the local currency short to make a killing, George-Soros style. ..."
"... When the debtor-country currency collapses, the debts that these Latin American countries owe are in dollars, and now have to pay much more in their own currency to carry and pay off these debts. ..."
"... Local currency is thrown onto the foreign-exchange market for dollars, lowering the exchange rate. That increases import prices, raising a price umbrella for domestic products. ..."
"... Instead, the IMF says just the opposite: It acts to prevent any move by other countries to bring the debt volume within the ability to be paid. It uses debt leverage as a way to control the monetary lifeline of financially defeated debtor countries. ..."
"... This control by the U.S. financial system and its diplomacy has been built into the world system by the IMF and the World Bank claiming to be international instead of an expression of specifically U.S. New Cold War nationalism. ..."
"... The same thing happened in Greece a few years ago, when almost all of Greece's foreign debt was owed to Greek millionaires holding their money in Switzerland ..."
"... The IMF could have seized this money to pay off the bondholders. Instead, it made the Greek economy pay. It found that it was worth wrecking the Greek economy, forcing emigration and wiping out Greek industry so that French and German bondholding banks would not have to take a loss. That is what makes the IMF so vicious an institution. ..."
"... America was able to grab all of Iran's foreign exchange just by the banks interfering. The CIA has bragged that it can do the same thing with Russia. If Russia does something that U.S. diplomats don't like, the U.S. can use the SWIFT bank payment system to exclude Russia from it, so the Russian banks and the Russian people and industry won't be able to make payments to each other. ..."
"... You can't create the money, especially if you're running a balance of payments deficit and if U.S. foreign policy forces you into deficit by having someone like George Soros make a run on your currency. Look at the Asia crisis in 1997. Wall Street funds bet against foreign currencies, driving them way down, and then used the money to pick up industry cheap in Korea and other Asian countries. ..."
"... This was also done to Russia's ruble. The only country that avoided this was Malaysia, under Mohamed Mahathir, by using capital controls. Malaysia is an object lesson in how to prevent a currency flight. ..."
"... Client kleptocracies take their money and run, moving it abroad to hard currency areas such as the United States, or at least keeping it in dollars in offshore banking centers instead of reinvesting it to help the country catch up by becoming independent agriculturally, in energy, finance and other sectors. ..."
"... But in shaping the World Trade Organization's rules, the United States said that all countries had to promote free trade and could not have government support, except for countries that already had it. We're the only country that had it. That's what's called "grandfathering". ..."
Jul 05, 2019 | www.unz.com

"The purpose of a military conquest is to take control of foreign economies, to take control of their land and impose tribute. The genius of the World Bank was to recognize that it's not necessary to occupy a country in order to impose tribute, or to take over its industry, agriculture and land. Instead of bullets, it uses financial maneuvering. As long as other countries play an artificial economic game that U.S. diplomacy can control, finance is able to achieve today what used to require bombing and loss of life by soldiers."

I'm Bonnie Faulkner. Today on Guns and Butter: Dr. Michael Hudson. Today's show: The IMF and World Bank: Partners In Backwardness . Dr. Hudson is a financial economist and historian. He is President of the Institute for the Study of Long-Term Economic Trend, a Wall Street Financial Analyst, and Distinguished Research Professor of Economics at the University of Missouri, Kansas City.

His most recent books include " and Forgive them Their Debts: Lending, Foreclosure and Redemption from Bronze Age Finance to the Jubilee Year "; Killing the Host: How Financial Parasites and Debt Destroy the Global Economy , and J Is for Junk Economics: A Guide to Reality in an Age of Deception . He is also author of Trade, Development and Foreign Debt , among many other books.

We return today to a discussion of Dr. Hudson's seminal 1972 book, Super Imperialism: The Economic Strategy of American Empire , a critique of how the United States exploited foreign economies through the IMF and World Bank, with a special emphasis on food imperialism.

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Bonnie Faulkner : In your seminal work form 1972, Super-Imperialism: The Economic Strategy of American Empire , you write: "The development lending of the World Bank has been dysfunctional from the outset." When was the World Bank set up and by whom?

Michael Hudson : It was set up basically by the United States in 1944, along with its sister institution, the International Monetary Fund (IMF). Their purpose was to create an international order like a funnel to make other countries economically dependent on the United States. To make sure that no other country or group of countries – even all the rest of the world – could not dictate U.S. policy. American diplomats insisted on the ability to veto any action by the World Bank or IMF. The aim of this veto power was to make sure that any policy was, in Donald Trump's words, to put America first. "We've got to win and they've got to lose."

The World Bank was set up from the outset as a branch of the military, of the Defense Department. John J. McCloy (Assistant Secretary of War, 1941-45), was the first full-time president. He later became Chairman of Chase Manhattan Bank (1953-60). McNamara was Secretary of Defense (1961-68), Paul Wolfowitz was Deputy and Under Secretary of Defense (1989-2005), and Robert Zoellick was Deputy Secretary of State. So I think you can look at the World Bank as the soft shoe of American diplomacy.

Bonnie Faulkner : What is the difference between the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, the IMF? Is there a difference?

Michael Hudson : Yes, there is. The World Bank was supposed to make loans for what they call international development. "Development" was their euphemism for dependency on U.S. exports and finance. This dependency entailed agricultural backwardness – opposing land reform, family farming to produce domestic food crops, and also monetary backwardness in basing their monetary system on the dollar.

The World Bank was supposed to provide infrastructure loans that other countries would go into debt to pay American engineering firms, to build up their export sectors and their plantation sectors by public investment roads and port development for imports and exports. Essentially, the Bank financed long- investments in the foreign trade sector, in a way that was a natural continuation of European colonialism.

In 1941, for example, C. L. R. James wrote an article on "Imperialism in Africa" pointing out the fiasco of European railroad investment in Africa: "Railways must serve flourishing industrial areas, or densely populated agricult5ural regions, or they must open up new land along which a thriving population develops and provides the railways with traffic. Except in the mining regions of South Africa, all these conditions are absent. Yet railways were needed, for the benefit of European investors and heavy industry." That is why, James explained "only governments can afford to operate them," while being burdened with heavy interest obligations. [1] What was "developed" was Africa's mining and plantation export sector, not its domestic economies. The World Bank followed this pattern of "development" lending without apology.

The IMF was in charge of short-term foreign currency loans. Its aim was to prevent countries from imposing capital controls to protect their balance of payments. Many countries had a dual exchange rate: one for trade in goods and services, the other rate for capital movements. The function of the IMF and World Bank was essentially to make other countries borrow in dollars, not in their own currencies, and to make sure that if they could not pay their dollar-denominated debts, they had to impose austerity on the domestic economy – while subsidizing their import and export sectors and protecting foreign investors, creditors and client oligarchies from loss.

The IMF developed a junk-economics model pretending that any country can pay any amount of debt to the creditors if it just impoverishes its labor enough. So when countries were unable to pay their debt service, the IMF tells them to raise their interest rates to bring on a depression – austerity – and break up the labor unions. That is euphemized as "rationalizing labor markets." The rationalizing is essentially to disable labor unions and the public sector. The aim – and effect – is to prevent countries from essentially following the line of development that had made the United States rich – by public subsidy and protection of domestic agriculture, public subsidy and protection of industry and an active government sector promoting a New Deal democracy. The IMF was essentially promoting and forcing other countries to balance their trade deficits by letting American and other investors buy control of their commanding heights, mainly their infrastructure monopolies, and to subsidize their capital flight.

BONNIE FAULKNER : Now, Michael, when you began speaking about the IMF and monetary controls, you mentioned that there were two exchange rates of currency in countries. What were you referring to?

MICHAEL HUDSON : When I went to work on Wall Street in the '60s, I was balance-of-payments economist for Chase Manhattan, and we used the IMF's monthly International Financial Statistics every month. At the top of each country's statistics would be the exchange-rate figures. Many countries had two rates: one for goods and services, which was set normally by the market, and then a different exchange rate that was managed for capital movements. That was because countries were trying to prevent capital flight. They didn't want their wealthy classes or foreign investors to make a run on their own currency – an ever-present threat in Latin America.

The IMF and the World Bank backed the cosmopolitan classes, the wealthy. Instead of letting countries control their capital outflows and prevent capital flight, the IMF's job is to protect the richest One Percent and foreign investors from balance-of-payments problems.

The World Bank and American diplomacy have steered them into a chronic currency crisis. The IMF enables its wealthy constituency to move their money out of the country without taking a foreign-exchange loss. It makes loans to support capital flight out of domestic currencies into the dollar or other hard currencies. The IMF calls this a "stabilization" program. It is never effective in helping the debtor economy pay foreign debts out of growth. Instead, the IMF uses currency depreciation and sell-offs of public infrastructure and other assets to foreign investors after the flight capital has left and currency collapses. Wall Street speculators have sold the local currency short to make a killing, George-Soros style.

When the debtor-country currency collapses, the debts that these Latin American countries owe are in dollars, and now have to pay much more in their own currency to carry and pay off these debts. We're talking about enormous penalty rates in domestic currency for these countries to pay foreign-currency debts – basically taking on to finance a non-development policy and to subsidize capital flight when that policy "fails" to achieve its pretended objective of growth.

All hyperinflations of Latin America – Chile early on, like Germany after World War I – come from trying to pay foreign debts beyond the ability to be paid. Local currency is thrown onto the foreign-exchange market for dollars, lowering the exchange rate. That increases import prices, raising a price umbrella for domestic products.

A really functional and progressive international monetary fund that would try to help countries develop would say: "Okay, banks and we (the IMF) have made bad loans that the country can't pay. And the World Bank has given it bad advice, distorting its domestic development to serve foreign customers rather than its own growth. So we're going to write down the loans to the ability to be paid." That's what happened in 1931, when the world finally stopped German reparations payments and Inter-Ally debts to the United States stemming from World War I.

Instead, the IMF says just the opposite: It acts to prevent any move by other countries to bring the debt volume within the ability to be paid. It uses debt leverage as a way to control the monetary lifeline of financially defeated debtor countries. So if they do something that U.S. diplomats don't approve of, it can pull the plug financially, encouraging a run on their currency if they act independently of the United States instead of falling in line. This control by the U.S. financial system and its diplomacy has been built into the world system by the IMF and the World Bank claiming to be international instead of an expression of specifically U.S. New Cold War nationalism.

BONNIE FAULKNER : How do exchange rates contribute to capital flight?

MICHAEL HUDSON : It's not the exchange rate that contributes. Suppose that you're a millionaire, and you see that your country is unable to balance its trade under existing production patterns. The money that the government has under control is pesos, escudos, cruzeiros or some other currency, not dollars or euros. You see that your currency is going to go down relative to the dollar, so you want to get our money out of the country to preserve your purchasing power.

This has long been institutionalized. By 1990, for instance, Latin American countries had defaulted so much in the wake of the Mexico defaults in 1982 that I was hired by Scudder Stevens, to help start a Third World Bond Fund (called a "sovereign high-yield fund"). At the time, Argentina and Brazil were running such serious balance-of-payments deficits that they were having to pay 45 percent per year interest, in dollars, on their dollar debt. Mexico, was paying 22.5 percent on its tesobonos .

Scudders' salesmen went around to the United States and tried to sell shares in the proposed fund, but no Americans would buy it, despite the enormous yields. They sent their salesmen to Europe and got a similar reaction. They had lost their shirts on Third World bonds and couldn't see how these countries could pay.

Merrill Lynch was the fund's underwriter. Its office in Brazil and in Argentina proved much more successful in selling investments in Scudder's these offshore fund established in the Dutch West Indies. It was an offshore fund, so Americans were not able to buy it. But Brazilian and Argentinian rich families close to the central bank and the president became the major buyers. We realized that they were buying these funds because they knew that their government was indeed going to pay their stipulated interest charges. In effect, the bonds were owed ultimately to themselves. So these Yankee dollar bonds were being bought by Brazilians and other Latin Americans as a vehicle to move their money out of their soft local currency (which was going down), to buy bonds denominated in hard dollars.

BONNIE FAULKNER : If wealthy families from these countries bought these bonds denominated in dollars, knowing that they were going to be paid off, who was going to pay them off? The country that was going broke?

MICHAEL HUDSON : Well, countries don't pay; the taxpayers pay, and in the end, labor pays. The IMF certainly doesn't want to make its wealthy client oligarchies pay. It wants to squeeze ore economic surplus out of the labor force. So countries are told that the way they can afford to pay their enormously growing dollar-denominated debt is to lower wages even more.

Currency depreciation is an effective way to do this, because what is devalued is basically labor's wages. Other elements of exports have a common world price: energy, raw materials, capital goods, and credit under the dollar-centered international monetary system that the IMF seeks to maintain as a financial strait jacket.

According to the IMF's ideological models, there's no limit to how far you can lower wages by enough to make labor competitive in producing exports. The IMF and World Bank thus use junk economics to pretend that the way to pay debts owed to the wealthiest creditors and investors is to lower wages and impose regressive excise taxes, to impose special taxes on necessities that labor needs, from food to energy and basic services supplied by public infrastructure.

BONNIE FAULKNER: So you're saying that labor ultimately has to pay off these junk bonds?

MICHAEL HUDSON: That is the basic aim of IMF. I discuss its fallacies in my Trade Development and Foreign Debt , which is the academic sister volume to Super Imperialism . These two books show that the World Bank and IMF were viciously anti-labor from the very outset, working with domestic elites whose fortunes are tied to and loyal to the United States.

BONNIE FAULKNER : With regard to these junk bonds, who was it or what entity

MICHAEL HUDSON : They weren't junk bonds. They were called that because they were high-interest bonds, but they weren't really junk because they actually were paid. Everybody thought they were junk because no American would have paid 45 percent interest. Any country that really was self-reliant and was promoting its own economic interest would have said, "You banks and the IMF have made bad loans, and you've made them under false pretenses – a trade theory that imposes austerity instead of leading to prosperity. We're not going to pay." They would have seized the capital flight of their comprador elites and said that these dollar bonds were a rip-off by the corrupt ruling class.

The same thing happened in Greece a few years ago, when almost all of Greece's foreign debt was owed to Greek millionaires holding their money in Switzerland. The details were published in the "Legarde List." But the IMF said, in effect that its loyalty was to the Greek millionaires who ha their money in Switzerland. The IMF could have seized this money to pay off the bondholders. Instead, it made the Greek economy pay. It found that it was worth wrecking the Greek economy, forcing emigration and wiping out Greek industry so that French and German bondholding banks would not have to take a loss. That is what makes the IMF so vicious an institution.

BONNIE FAULKNER : So these loans to foreign countries that were regarded as junk bonds really weren't junk, because they were going to be paid. What group was it that jacked up these interest rates to 45 percent?

MICHAEL HUDSON : The market did. American banks, stock brokers and other investors looked at the balance of payments of these countries and could not see any reasonable way that they could pay their debts, so they were not going to buy their bonds. No country subject to democratic politics would have paid debts under these conditions. But the IMF, U.S. and Eurozone diplomacy overrode democratic choice.

Investors didn't believe that the IMF and the World Bank had such a strangle hold over Latin American, Asian, and African countries that they could make the countries act in the interest of the United States and the cosmopolitan finance capital, instead of in their own national interest. They didn't believe that countries would commit financial suicide just to pay their wealthy One Percent.

They were wrong, of course. Countries were quite willing to commit economic suicide if their governments were dictatorships propped up by the United States. That's why the CIA has assassination teams and actively supports these countries to prevent any party coming to power that would act in their national interest instead of in the interest of a world division of labor and production along the lines that the U.S. planners want for the world. Under the banner of what they call a free market, you have the World Bank and the IMF engage in central planning of a distinctly anti-labor policy. Instead of calling them Third World bonds or junk bonds, you should call them anti-labor bonds, because they have become a lever to impose austerity throughout the world.

BONNIE FAULKNER : Well, that makes a lot of sense, Michael, and answers a lot of the questions I've put together to ask you. What about Puerto Rico writing down debt? I thought such debts couldn't be written down.

MICHAEL HUDSON : That's what they all said, but the bonds were trading at about 45 cents on the dollar, the risk of their not being paid. The Wall Street Journal on June 17, reported that unsecured suppliers and creditors of Puerto Rico, would only get nine cents on the dollar. The secured bond holders would get maybe 65 cents on the dollar.

The terms are being written down because it's obvious that Puerto Rico can't pay, and that trying to do so is driving the population to move out of Puerto Rico to the United States. If you don't want Puerto Ricans to act the same way Greeks did and leave Greece when their industry and economy was shut down, then you're going to have to provide stability or else you're going to have half of Puerto Rico living in Florida.

BONNIE FAULKNER : Who wrote down the Puerto Rican debt?

MICHAEL HUDSON : A committee was appointed, and it calculated how much Puerto Rico can afford to pay out of its taxes. Puerto Rico is a U.S. dependency, that is, an economic colony of the United States. It does not have domestic self-reliance. It's the antithesis of democracy, so it's never been in charge of its own economic policy and essentially has to do whatever the United States tells it to do. There was a reaction after the hurricane and insufficient U.S. support to protect the island and the enormous waste and corruption involved in the U.S. aid. The U.S. response was simply: "We won you fair and square in the Spanish-American war and you're an occupied country, and we're going to keep you that way." Obviously this is causing a political resentment.

BONNIE FAULKNER : You've already touched on this, but why has the World Bank traditionally been headed by a U.S. secretary of defense?

MICHAEL HUDSON : Its job is to do in the financial sphere what, in the past, was done by military force. The purpose of a military conquest is to take control of foreign economies, to take control of their land and impose tribute. The genius of the World Bank was to recognize that it's not necessary to occupy a country in order to impose tribute, or to take over its industry, agriculture and land. Instead of bullets, it uses financial maneuvering. As long as other countries play an artificial economic game that U.S. diplomacy can control, finance is able to achieve today what used to require bombing and loss of life by soldiers.

In this case the loss of life occurs in the debtor countries. Population growth shrinks, suicides go up. The World Bank engages in economic warfare that is just as destructive as military warfare. At the end of the Yeltsin period Russia's President Putin said that American neoliberalism destroyed more of Russia's population than did World War II. Such neoliberalism, which basically is the doctrine of American supremacy and foreign dependency, is the policy of the World Bank and IMF.

BONNIE FAULKNER : Why has World Bank policy since its inception been to provide loans for countries to devote their land to export crops instead of giving priority to feeding themselves? And if this is the case, why do countries want these loans?

MICHAEL HUDSON : One constant of American foreign policy is to make other countries dependent on American grain exports and food exports. The aim is to buttress America's agricultural trade surplus. So the first thing that the World Bank has done is not to make any domestic currency loans to help food producers. Its lending has steered client countries to produce tropical export crops, mainly plantation crops that cannot be grown in the United States. Focusing on export crops leads client countries to become dependent on American farmers – and political sanctions.

In the 1950s, right after the Chinese revolution, the United States tried to prevent China from succeeding by imposing grain export controls to starve China into submission by putting sanctions on exports. Canada was the country that broke these export controls and helped feed China.

The idea is that if you can make other countries export plantation crops, the oversupply will drive down prices for cocoa and other tropical products, and they won't feed themselves. So instead of backing family farms like the American agricultural policy does, the World Bank backed plantation agriculture. In Chile, which has the highest natural supply of fertilizer in the world from its guano deposits, exports guano instead of using it domestically. It also has the most unequal land distribution, blocking it from growing its own grain or food crops. It's completely dependent on the United States for this, and it pays by exporting copper, guano and other natural resources.

The idea is to create interdependency – one-sided dependency on the U.S. economy. The United States has always aimed at being self-sufficient in its own essentials, so that no other country can pull the plug on our economy and say, "We're going to starve you by not feeding you." Americans can feed themselves. Other countries can't say, "We're going to let you freeze in the dark by not sending you oil," because America's independent in energy. But America can use the oil control to make other countries freeze in the dark, and it can starve other countries by food-export sanctions.

So the idea is to give the United States control of the key interconnections of other economies, without letting any country control something that is vital to the working of the American economy.

There's a double standard here. The United States tells other countries: "Don't do as we do. Do as we say." The only way it can enforce this is by interfering in the politics of these countries, as it has interfered in Latin America, always pushing the right wing. For instance, when Hillary's State Department overthrew the Honduras reformer who wanted to undertake land reform and feed the Hondurans, she said: "This person has to go." That's why there are so many Hondurans trying to get into the United States now, because they can't live in their own country.

The effect of American coups is the same in Syria and Iraq. They force an exodus of people who no longer can make a living under the brutal dictatorships supported by the United States to enforce this international dependency system.

BONNIE FAULKNER : So when I asked you why countries would want these loans, I guess you're saying that they wouldn't, and that's why the U.S. finds it necessary to control them politically.

MICHAEL HUDSON : That's a concise way of putting it Bonnie.

BONNIE FAULKNER : Why are World Bank loans only in foreign currency, not in the domestic currency of the country to which it is lending?

MICHAEL HUDSON : That's a good point. A basic principle should be to avoid borrowing in a foreign currency. A country can always pay the loans in its own currency, but there's no way that it can print dollars or euros to pay loans denominated in these foreign currencies.

Making the dollar central forces other countries to interface with the U.S. banking system. So if a country decides to go its own way, as Iran did in 1953 when it wanted to take over its oil from British Petroleum (or Anglo Iranian Oil, as it was called back then), the United States can interfere and overthrow it. The idea is to be able to use the banking system's interconnections to stop payments from being made.

After America installed the Shah's dictatorship, they were overthrown by Khomeini, and Iran had run up a U.S. dollar debt under the Shah. It had plenty of dollars. I think Chase Manhattan was its paying agent. So when its quarterly or annual debt payment came due, Iran told Chase to draw on its accounts and pay the bondholders. But Chase took orders from the State Department or the Defense Department, I don't know which, and refused to pay. When the payment was not made, America and its allies claimed that Iran was in default. They demanded the entire debt to be paid, as per the agreement that the Shah's puppet government had signed. America simply grabbed the deposits that Iran had in the United States. This is the money that was finally returned to Iran without interest under the agreement of 2016.

America was able to grab all of Iran's foreign exchange just by the banks interfering. The CIA has bragged that it can do the same thing with Russia. If Russia does something that U.S. diplomats don't like, the U.S. can use the SWIFT bank payment system to exclude Russia from it, so the Russian banks and the Russian people and industry won't be able to make payments to each other.

This prompted Russia to create its own bank-transfer system, and is leading China, Russia, India and Pakistan to draft plans to de-dollarize.

BONNIE FAULKNER : I was going to ask you, why would loans in a country's domestic currency be preferable to the country taking out a loan in a foreign currency? I guess you've explained that if they took out a loan in a domestic currency, they would be able to repay it.

MICHAEL HUDSON : Yes.

BONNIE FAULKNER : Whereas a loan in a foreign currency would cripple them.

MICHAEL HUDSON : Yes. You can't create the money, especially if you're running a balance of payments deficit and if U.S. foreign policy forces you into deficit by having someone like George Soros make a run on your currency. Look at the Asia crisis in 1997. Wall Street funds bet against foreign currencies, driving them way down, and then used the money to pick up industry cheap in Korea and other Asian countries.

This was also done to Russia's ruble. The only country that avoided this was Malaysia, under Mohamed Mahathir, by using capital controls. Malaysia is an object lesson in how to prevent a currency flight.

But for Latin America and other countries, much of their foreign debt is held by their own ruling class. Even though it's denominated in dollars, Americans don't own most of this debt. It's their own ruling class. The IMF and World Bank dictate tax policy to Latin America – to un-tax wealth and shift the burden onto labor. Client kleptocracies take their money and run, moving it abroad to hard currency areas such as the United States, or at least keeping it in dollars in offshore banking centers instead of reinvesting it to help the country catch up by becoming independent agriculturally, in energy, finance and other sectors.

BONNIE FAULKNER : You say that: "While U.S. agricultural protectionism has been built into the postwar global system at its inception, foreign protectionism is to be nipped in the bud." How has U.S. agricultural protectionism been built into the postwar global system?

MICHAEL HUDSON : Under Franklin Roosevelt the Agricultural Adjustment Act of 1933 called for price supports for crops so that farmers could earn enough to invest in equipment and seeds. The Agriculture Department was a wonderful department in spurring new seed varieties, agricultural extension services, marketing and banking services. It provided public support so that productivity in American agriculture from the 1930s to '50s was higher over a prolonged period than that of any other sector in history.

But in shaping the World Trade Organization's rules, the United States said that all countries had to promote free trade and could not have government support, except for countries that already had it. We're the only country that had it. That's what's called "grandfathering". The Americans said: "We already have this program on the books, so we can keep it. But no other country can succeed in agriculture in the way that we have done. You must keep your agriculture backward, except for the plantation crops and growing crops that we can't grow in the United States." That's what's so evil about the World Bank's development plan.

BONNIE FAULKNER : According to your book: "Domestic currency is needed to provide price supports and agricultural extension services such as have made U.S. agriculture so productive." Why can't infrastructure costs be subsidized to keep down the economy's overall cost structure if IMF loans are made in foreign currency?

MICHAEL HUDSON : If you're a farmer in Brazil, Argentina or Chile, you're doing business in domestic currency. It doesn't help if somebody gives you dollars, because your expenses are in domestic currency. So if the World Bank and the IMF can prevent countries from providing domestic currency support, that means they're not able to give price supports or provide government marketing services for their agriculture.

America is a mixed economy. Our government has always subsidized capital formation in agriculture and industry, but it insists that other countries are socialist or communist if they do what the United States is doing and use their government to support the economy. So it's a double standard. Nobody calls America a socialist country for supporting its farmers, but other countries are called socialist and are overthrown if they attempt land reform or attempt to feed themselves.

This is what the Catholic Church's Liberation Theology was all about. They backed land reform and agricultural self-sufficiency in food, realizing that if you're going to support population growth, you have to support the means to feed it. That's why the United States focused its assassination teams on priests and nuns in Guatemala and Central America for trying to promote domestic self-sufficiency.

BONNIE FAULKNER : If a country takes out an IMF loan, they're obviously going to take it out in dollars. Why can't they take the dollars and convert them into domestic currency to support local infrastructure costs?

MICHAEL HUDSON : You don't need a dollar loan to do that. Now were getting in to MMT. Any country can create its own currency. There's no reason to borrow in dollars to create your own currency. You can print it yourself or create it on your computers.

BONNIE FAULKNER: Well, exactly. So why don't these countries simply print up their own domestic currency?

MICHAEL HUDSON : Their leaders don't want to be assassinated. More immediately, if you look at the people in charge of foreign central banks, almost all have been educated in the United States and essentially brainwashed. It's the mentality of foreign central bankers. The people who are promoted are those who feel personally loyal to the United States, because they that that's how to get ahead. Essentially, they're opportunists working against the interests of their own country. You won't have socialist central bankers as long as central banks are dominated by the International Monetary Fund and the Bank for International Settlements.

BONNIE FAULKNER : So we're back to the main point: The control is by political means, and they control the politics and the power structure in these countries so that they don't rebel.

MICHAEL HUDSON : That's right. When you have a dysfunctional economic theory that is destructive instead of productive, this is never an accident. It is always a result of junk economics and dependency economics being sponsored. I've talked to people at the U.S. Treasury and asked why they all end up following the United States. Treasury officials have told me: "We simply buy them off. They do it for the money." So you don't need to kill them. All you need to do is find people corrupt enough and opportunist enough to see where the money is, and you buy them off.

BONNIE FAULKNER : You write that "by following U.S. advice, countries have left themselves open to food blackmail." What is food blackmail?

MICHAEL HUDSON : If you pursue a foreign policy that we don't like -- for instance, if you trade with Iran, which we're trying to smash up to grab its oil -- we'll impose financial sanctions against you. We won't sell you food, and you can starve. And because you've followed World Bank advice and not grown your own food, you will starve, because you're dependent on us, the United States and our Free World Ó allies. Canada will no longer follow its own policy independently of the United States, as it did with China in the 1950s when it sold it grain. Europe also is falling in line with U.S. policy.

BONNIE FAULKNER : You write that: "World Bank administrators demand that loan recipients pursue a policy of economic dependency above all on the United States as food supplier." Was this done to support U.S. agriculture? Obviously it is, but were there other reasons as well?

MICHAEL HUDSON : Certainly the agricultural lobby was critical in all of this, and I'm not sure at what point this became thoroughly conscious. I knew some of the World Bank planners, and they had no anticipation that this dependency would be the result. They believed the free-trade junk economics that's taught in the schools' economics departments and for which Nobel prizes are awarded.

When we're dealing with economic planners, we're dealing with tunnel-visioned people. They stayed in the discipline despite its unreality because they sort of think that abstractly it makes sense. There's something autistic about most economists, which is why the French had their non-autistic economic site for many years. The mentality at work is that every country should produce what it's best at – not realizing that nations also need to be self-sufficient in essentials, because we're in a real world of economic and military warfare.

BONNIE FAULKNER : Why does the World Bank prefer to perpetrate world poverty instead of adequate overseas capacity to feed the peoples of developing countries?

MICHAEL HUDSON : World poverty is viewed as solution , not a problem. The World Bank thinks of poverty as low-priced labor, creating a competitive advantage for countries that produce labor-intensive goods. So poverty and austerity for the World Bank and IMF is an economic solution that's built into their models. I discuss these in my Trade, Development and Foreign Debt book. Poverty is to them the solution, because it means low-priced labor, and that means higher profits for the companies bought out by U.S., British, and European investors. So poverty is part of the class war: profits versus poverty.

BONNIE FAULKNER : In general, what is U.S. food imperialism? How would you characterize it?

MICHAEL HUDSON : Its aim is to make America the producer of essential foods and other countries producing inessential plantation crops, while remaining dependent on the United States for grain, soy beans and basic food crops.

BONNIE FAULKNER : Does World Bank lending encourage land reform in former colonies?

MICHAEL HUDSON : No. If there is land reform, the CIA sends its assassination teams in and you have mass murder, as you had in Guatemala, Ecuador, Central America and Columbia. The World Bank is absolutely committed against land reform. When the Forgash Plan for a World Bank for Economic Acceleration was proposed in the 1950s to emphasize land reform and local-currency loans, a Chase Manhattan economist to whom the plan was submitted warned that every country that had land reform turned out to be anti-American. That killed any alternative to the World Bank.

BONNIE FAULKNER : Does the World Bank insist on client governments privatizing their public domain? If so, why, and what is the effect?

MICHAEL HUDSON : It does indeed insist on privatization, pretending that this is efficient. But what it privatizes are natural monopolies – the electrical system, the water system and other basic needs. Foreigners take over, essentially finance them with foreign debt, build the foreign debt that they build into the cost structure, and raise the cost of living and doing business in these countries, thereby crippling them economically. The effect is to prevent them from competing with the United States and its European allies.

BONNIE FAULKNER : Would you say then that it is mainly America that has been aided, not foreign economies that borrow from the World Bank?

MICHAEL HUDSON : That's why the United States is the only country with veto power in the IMF and World Bank – to make sure that what you just described is exactly what happens.

BONNIE FAULKNER : Why do World Bank programs accelerate the exploitation of mineral deposits for use by other nations?

MICHAEL HUDSON : Most World Bank loans are for transportation, roads, harbor development and other infrastructure needed to export minerals and plantation crops. The World Bank doesn't make loans for projects that help the country develop in its own currency. By making only foreign currency loans, in dollars or maybe euros now, the World Bank says that its clients have to repay by generating foreign currency. The only way they can repay the dollars spent on American engineering firms that have built their infrastructure is to export – to earn enough dollars to pay back for the money that the World Bank or IMF have lent.

This is what John Perkins' book about being an economic hit man for the World Bank is all about. He realized that his job was to get countries to borrow dollars to build huge projects that could only be paid for by the country exporting more – which required breaking its labor unions and lowering wages so that it could be competitive in the race to the bottom that the World Bank and IMF encourage.

BONNIE FAULKNER : You also point out in Super Imperialism that mineral resources represent diminishing assets, so these countries that are exporting mineral resources are being depleted while the importing countries aren't.

MICHAEL HUDSON : That's right. They'll end up like Canada. The end result is going to be a big hole in the ground. You've dug up all your minerals, and in the end you have a hole in the ground and a lot of the refuse and pollution – the mining slag and what Marx called the excrements of production.

This is not a sustainable development. The World Bank only promotes the U.S. pursuit of sustainable development. So naturally, they call their "Development," but their focus is on the United States, not the World Bank's client countries.

BONNIE FAULKNER : When Super Imperialism: The Economic Strategy of American Empire was originally published in 1972, how was it received?

MICHAEL HUDSON : Very positively. It enabled my career to take off. I received a phone call a month later by someone from the Bank of Montreal saying they had just made $240 million on the last paragraph of my book. They asked what it would cost to have me come up and give a lecture. I began lecturing once a month at $3,500 a day, moving up to $6,500 a day, and became the highest-paid per diem economist on Wall Street for a few years.

I was immediately hired by the Hudson Institute to explain Super Imperialism to the Defense Department. Herman Kahn said I showed how U.S. imperialism ran rings around European imperialism. They gave the Institute an $85,000 grant to have me go to the White House in Washington to explain how American imperialism worked. The Americans used it as a how-to-do-it book.

The socialists, whom I expected to have a response, decided to talk about other than economic topics. So, much to my surprise, it became a how-to-do-it book for imperialists. It was translated by, I think, the nephew of the Emperor of Japan into Japanese. He then wrote me that the United States opposed the book being translated into Japanese. It later was translated. It was received very positively in China, where I think it has sold more copies than in any other country. It was translated into Spanish, and most recently it was translated into German, and German officials have asked me to come and discuss it with them. So the book has been accepted all over the world as an explanation of how the system works.

BONNIE FAULKNER : In closing, do you really think that the U.S. government officials and others didn't understand how their own system worked?

MICHAEL HUDSON : Many might not have understood in 1944 that this would be the consequence. But by the time 50 years went by, you had an organization called "Fifty Years Is Enough." And by that time everybody should have understood. By the time Joe Stiglitz became the World Bank's chief economist, there was no excuse for not understanding how the system worked. He was amazed to find that indeed it didn't work as advertised, and resigned. But he should have known at the very beginning what it was all about. If he didn't understand how it was until he actually went to work there, you can understand how hard it is for most academics to get through the vocabulary of junk economics, the patter-talk of free trade and free markets to understand how exploitative and destructive the system is.

BONNIE FAULKNER : Michael Hudson, thank you very much.

MICHAEL HUDSON : It's always good to be here, Bonnie. I'm glad you ask questions like these.

I've been speaking with Dr. Michael Hudson. Today's show has been: The IMF and World Bank: Partners in Backwardness. Dr. Hudson is a financial economist and historian. He is president of the Institute for the Study of Long-Term Economic Trend, a Wall Street financial analyst and Distinguished Research Professor of Economics at the University of Missouri, Kansas City. His 1972 book, Super Imperialism : The Economic Strategy of American Empire , a critique of how the United States exploited foreign economies through the IMF and World Bank, the subject of today's broadcast, is posted in PDF format on his website at michael-hudson.com. He is also author of Trade, Development and Foreign Debt , which is the academic sister volume to Super Imperialism. Dr. Hudson acts as an economic advisor to governments worldwide on finance and tax law. Visit his website at michael-hudson.com.

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[Jun 26, 2019] Neoliberalism Has Tricked Us Into Believing a Fairytale About Where Money Comes From by Mary MELLOR

Jun 26, 2019 | www.strategic-culture.org

There is nothing natural about money. There is no link to some scarce essential form of money that sets a limit to its creation. It can be composed of base metal, paper or electronic data – none of which is in short supply. Similarly – despite what you may have heard about the need for austerity and a lack of certain cash-generating trees – there is no "natural" level of public expenditure. The size and reach of the public sector is a matter of political choice.

Which puts austerity, the culling of expenditure in the public economy, under some question. For some countries, such as Greece , the impact of austerity has been devastating. Austerity policies still persist despite numerous studies arguing that they were entirely misconceived, based on political choice rather than economic logic. But the economic case for austerity is equally mistaken: it is based on what can best be described as fairytale economics.

So what were the justifications? Britain, for example, has lived under an austerity regime since 2010, when the incoming Tory-Liberal Democrat government reversed the Labour policy of raising the level of public expenditure in response to the 2007-8 financial crisis. The crisis had created a perfect storm: bank rescue required high levels of public spending while economic contraction reduced tax income. The case for austerity was that the higher level of public expenditure could not be afforded by the taxpayer. This was supported by " handbag economics ", which adopts the analogy of states as being like households, dependent on a (private sector) breadwinner.

Under handbag economics, states are required to restrict their expenditure to what the taxpayer is deemed to be able to afford. States must not try to increase their spending by borrowing from the (private) financial sector or by "printing money" (although the banks were rescued by doing so by another name – quantitative easing , the creation of electronic money).

The ideology of handbag economics claims that money is to be generated only through market activity and that it is always in short supply. Request for increased public expenditure is almost invariably met with the response "where's the money to come from?" When confronted by low pay in the NHS, the British prime minister, Theresa May, famously declared, "there is no magic money tree".

So where does money come from? And what is money anyway? What is money?

Until the last 50 years or so the answer seemed to be obvious: money was represented by cash (notes and coin). When money was tangible, there seemed no question about its origin, or its value. Coins were minted, banknotes were printed. Both were authorised by governments or central banks. But what is money today? In richer economies the use of cash is declining rapidly . Most monetary transactions are based on transfers between accounts: no physical money is involved.

In the run up to the financial crisis, the state's role in relation to money held in bank accounts was ambiguous. Banking was a monitored and licensed activity with some level of state guarantee of bank deposits, but the actual act of creating bank accounts was, and is, seen as a private matter. There may be regulations and limitations, but there is no detailed scrutiny of bank accounts and bank lending.

Yet, as the 2007-8 financial crisis showed, when bank accounts came under threat as banks teetered on the edge of bankruptcy, states and central banks had to step in and guarantee the security of all deposit accounts. The viability of money in non-investment bank accounts was demonstrated to be as much a public responsibility as cash.

The magic money tree. © Kate Mc , Author provided

This raises fundamental questions about money as a social institution. Is it right that money can be generated by a private choice to take on debt, which then becomes a liability of the state to guarantee in a crisis?

But far from seeing money as a public resource, under neoliberal handbag economics, money creation and circulation has increasingly been seen as a function of the market. Money is "made" solely in the private sector. Public spending is seen as a drain on that money, justifying austerity to make the public sector as small as possible.

This stance, however, is based on a complete misunderstanding of the nature of money, sustained by a series of deeply embedded myths.

Myths about money

Neoliberal handbag economics is derived from two key myths about the origin and nature of money. The first is that money emerged from a previous market economy based on barter. The second is that money was originally made from precious metal.

It is claimed that bartering proved to be very inefficient as each buyer-seller needed to find another person who exactly matched their requirements. A hat maker might barter a hat for some shoes she needs – but what if the shoe maker is in no need of a hat? The solution to this problem, so the story goes, was to choose one commodity that everyone desired, to act as a medium of exchange. Precious metal (gold and silver) was the obvious choice because it had its own value and could be easily divided and carried. This view of the origin of money goes back to at least the 18th century: the time of economist Adam Smith .

The 'father of capitalism' Adam Smith, 1723-1790. Matt Ledwinka/Shutterstock.com

These myths led to two assumptions about money that are still current today. First, that money is essentially connected to, and generated by, the marketplace. Second that modern money, like its original and ideal form, is always in short supply. Hence the neoliberal claim that public spending is a drain on the wealth-creating capacity of the market and that public spending must always be as limited as possible. Money is seen as a commercial instrument, serving a basic, market, technical, transactional function with no social or political force.

But the real story of money is very different. Evidence from anthropology and history shows that there was no widespread barter before markets based on money developed, and precious metal coinage emerged long before market economies. There are also many forms of money other than precious metal coins.

Money as custom

Something that acts as money has existed in most, if not all, human societies. Stones, shells, beads, cloths, brass rods and many other forms have been the means of comparing and acknowledging comparative value. But this was rarely used in a market context. Most early human communities lived directly off the land – hunting, fishing, gathering and gardening. The customary money in such communities was used mainly to celebrate auspicious social events or serve as a way of resolving social conflict.

For example, the Lele people, who lived in what is now the Democratic Republic of Congo in the 1950s, calculated value in woven raffia cloths . The number of cloths required for different occasions was fixed by custom. Twenty cloths should be given to a father by a son on achieving adulthood and a similar amount given to a wife on the birth of a child. The anthropologist Mary Douglas, who studied the Lele, found they were resistant to using the cloths in transactions with outsiders, indicating that the cloths had a specific cultural relevance.

Even stranger is the large stone money of the Yap people of Micronesia. Huge circular discs of stone could weigh up to four metric tons . Not something to put in your pocket for a trip to the shops.

Try lugging that to the market. Evenfh/Shutterstock.com

There is plenty of other anthropological evidence such as this all over the world, all pointing to the fact that money, in its earliest form, served a social rather than market-based purpose.

Money as power

For most traditional societies, the origin of the particular money form has been lost in the mist of time. But the origin and adoption of money as an institution became much more obvious with the emergence of states. Money did not originate as precious metal coinage with the development of markets. In fact, the new invention of precious metal coinage in around 600BC was adopted and controlled by imperial rulers to build their empires by waging war.

Most notable was Alexander the Great, who ruled from 336–323BC. He is said to have used half a ton of silver a day to fund his largely mercenary army rather than a share of the spoils (the traditional payment). He had more than 20 mints producing coins, which had images of gods and heroes and the word Alexandrou (of Alexander). From that time, new ruling regimes have tended to herald their arrival by a new coinage.

Alexandrou. Alex Coan/Shutterstock.com

More than a thousand years after the invention of coinage, the Holy Roman Emperor Charlemagne (742-814), who ruled most of western and central Europe, developed what became the basis of the British pre-decimal money system: pounds, shillings and pence. Charlemagne set up a currency system based on 240 pennies minted from a pound of silver. The pennies became established as the denier in France, the pfennig in Germany, the dinero in Spain, the denari in Italy and the penny in Britain.

So the real story of money as coinage was not one of barterers and traders: it emerged instead from a long history of politics, war and conflict. Money was an active agent in state and empire building, not a passive representation of price in the market. Control of the money supply was a major power of rulers: a sovereign power. Money was created and spent into circulation by rulers either directly, like Alexander, or through taxation or seizure of private holdings of precious metal.

Nor was early money necessarily based on precious metal. In fact, precious metal was relatively useless for building empires, because it was in short supply. Even in the Roman era, base metal was used, and Charlemagne's new money eventually became debased. In China, gold and silver did not feature and paper money was being used as early as the 9th century.

A coin from the time of Charlemagne, 768-814 AD. Classical Numismatic Group, CC BY-SA

What the market economy did introduce was a new form of money: money as debt.

Money as debt

If you look at a £20 banknote you will see it says: "I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of twenty pounds." This is a promise originally made by the Bank of England to exchange notes for the sovereign currency. The banknote was a new form of money. Unlike sovereign money it was not a statement of value, but a promise of value. A coin, even if made of base metal, was exchangeable in its own right: it did not represent another, superior, form of money. But when banknotes were first invented, they did.

The new invention of promissory notes emerged through the needs of trade in the 16th and 17th centuries. Promissory notes were used to acknowledge receipt of loans or investments and the obligation to repay them through the fruits of future transactions. A major task of the emerging profession of banking was to periodically set all these promises against each other and see who owed what to whom. This process of "clearing" meant that a great amount of paper commitments was reduced to relatively less actual transfer of money. Final settlement was either by payment with sovereign money (coins) or another promissory note (banknote).

Eventually, the banknotes became so trusted that they were treated as money in their own right. In Britain they became equivalent to the coinage, particularly when they were united under the banner of the Bank of England. Today, if you took a banknote to the Bank of England, it would merely exchange your note for one that is exactly the same. Banknotes are no longer promises, they are the currency. There is no other "real" money behind them.

What promissory notes became. Wara1982/Shutterstock.com

What modern money does retain is its association with debt. Unlike sovereign money, which was created and spent directly into circulation, modern money is largely borrowed into circulation through the banking system. This process shelters behind another myth, that banks merely act as a link between savers and borrowers. In fact, banks create money. And it is only in the last decade that this powerful myth has been finally put to rest by banking and monetary authorities.

It is now acknowledged by monetary authorities such as the IMF, the US Federal Reserve and the Bank of England, that banks are creating new money when they make loans. They don't lend the money of other account holders to those who want to borrow.

Bank loans consist of money conjured out of thin air, whereby new money is credited to the borrowers account with the agreement that the amount will eventually be repaid with interest.

The policy implications of the public currency being created out of nowhere and lent to borrowers on a purely commercial basis have still not been taken on board. Nor has basing a public currency on debt as opposed to the sovereign power to create and directly circulate money free of debt.

The result is that rather than using their own sovereign power over money creation, as Alexander the Great did, states have become borrowers from the private sector. Where there are public spending deficits or the need for large scale future expenditure, there is an expectation that the state will borrow the money or increase taxation, rather than create the money itself.

Creators of cash. Creative Lab/Shutterstock.com

Dilemmas of debt

But basing a money supply on debt is ecologically, socially and economically problematic.

Ecologically, there is a problem because the need to pay off debt could drive potentially damaging growth : money creation based on repaying debt with interest must imply constant growth in the money supply. If this is achieved through increasing productive capacity, there will inevitably be pressure on natural resources.

Basing the money supply on debt is also socially discriminatory because not all citizens are in a position to take on debt. The pattern of the money supply will tend to favour the already rich or the most speculative risk-taker. Recent decades, for example, have seen a huge amount of borrowing by the financial sector to enhance their investments.

The economic problem is that the money supply depends on the capacity of the various elements of the economy (public and private) to take on more debt. And so as countries have become more dependent upon bank-created money, debt bubbles and credit crunches have become more frequent.

This is because handbag economics creates an impossible task for the private sector. It has to create all new money through bank-issued debt and repay it all with interest. It has to completely fund the public sector and generate a profit for investors.

But when the privatised bank-led money supply flounders, the money creating powers of the state come back into clear focus. This was particularly plain in the 2007-8 crisis, when central banks created new money in the process known as quantitative easing. Central banks used the sovereign power to create money free of debt to spend directly into the economy (by buying up existing government debt and other financial assets, for example).

The question then becomes: if the state as represented by the central bank can create money out of thin air to save the banks – why can't it create money to save the people?

It's a mistake to think of the state as a piggybank or handbag. ColorMaker/Shutterstock.com

Money for the people

The myths about money have led us to look at public spending and taxation the wrong way around. Taxation and spending, like bank lending and repayment, is in a constant flow. Handbag economics assumes that it is taxation (of the private sector) that is raising the money to fund the public sector. That taxation takes money out of the taxpayer's pocket.

But the long political history of sovereign power over money would indicate that the flow of money can be in the opposite direction. In the same way that banks can conjure money out of thin air to make loans, states can conjure money out of thin air to fund public spending. Banks create money by setting up bank accounts, states create money by allocating budgets.

When governments set budgets they do not see how much money they have in a pre-existing taxation piggybank. The budget allocates spending commitments that may, or may not, match the amount of money coming in through taxation. Through its accounts in the treasury and the central bank, the state is constantly spending out and taking in money. If it spends more money than it takes in, it leaves more money in people's pockets. This creates a budget deficit and what is effectively an overdraft at the central bank.

Is this a problem? Yes, if the state is treated as if it was any other bank account holder – the dependent household of handbag economics. No, if it is seen as an independent source of money. States do not need to wait for handouts from the commercial sector. States are the authority behind the money system. The power exercised by the banks to create the public currency out of thin air is a sovereign power.

It is no longer necessary to mint coins like Alexander, money can be created by keystrokes. There is no reason why this should be monopolised by the banking sector to create new public money as debt. Deeming public spending as being equivalent to bank borrowing denies the public, the sovereign people in a democracy, the right to access its own money free of debt.

Money should be designed for the many, not the few. Varavin88/Shutterstock.com

Redefining money

This foray into the historical and anthropological stories about money shows that long-held conceptions – that money emerged from a previous market economy based on barter, and that it was originally made from precious metal – are fairytales. We need to recognise this. And we need to capitalise on the public ability to create money.

But it is also important to recognise that the sovereign power to create money is not a solution in itself. Both the state and bank capacity to create money have advantages and disadvantages. Both can be abused. The reckless lending of the banking sector, for example, led to the near meltdown of the American and European monetary and financial system. On the other hand, where countries do not have a developed banking sector, the money supply remains in the hands of the state, with massive room for corruption and mismanagement.

The answer must be to subject both forms of money creation – bank and state – to democratic accountability. Far from being a technical, commercial instrument, money can be seen as a social and political construct that has immense radical potential. Our ability to harness this is hampered if we do not understand what money is and how it works . Money must become our servant, rather than our master.

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There is nothing natural about money. There is no link to some scarce essential form of money that sets a limit to its creation. It can be composed of base metal, paper or electronic data – none of which is in short supply. Similarly – despite what you may have heard about the need for austerity and a lack of certain cash-generating trees – there is no "natural" level of public expenditure. The size and reach of the public sector is a matter of political choice.

Which puts austerity, the culling of expenditure in the public economy, under some question. For some countries, such as Greece , the impact of austerity has been devastating. Austerity policies still persist despite numerous studies arguing that they were entirely misconceived, based on political choice rather than economic logic. But the economic case for austerity is equally mistaken: it is based on what can best be described as fairytale economics.

So what were the justifications? Britain, for example, has lived under an austerity regime since 2010, when the incoming Tory-Liberal Democrat government reversed the Labour policy of raising the level of public expenditure in response to the 2007-8 financial crisis. The crisis had created a perfect storm: bank rescue required high levels of public spending while economic contraction reduced tax income. The case for austerity was that the higher level of public expenditure could not be afforded by the taxpayer. This was supported by " handbag economics ", which adopts the analogy of states as being like households, dependent on a (private sector) breadwinner.

Under handbag economics, states are required to restrict their expenditure to what the taxpayer is deemed to be able to afford. States must not try to increase their spending by borrowing from the (private) financial sector or by "printing money" (although the banks were rescued by doing so by another name – quantitative easing , the creation of electronic money).

The ideology of handbag economics claims that money is to be generated only through market activity and that it is always in short supply. Request for increased public expenditure is almost invariably met with the response "where's the money to come from?" When confronted by low pay in the NHS, the British prime minister, Theresa May, famously declared, "there is no magic money tree".

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So where does money come from? And what is money anyway? What is money?

Until the last 50 years or so the answer seemed to be obvious: money was represented by cash (notes and coin). When money was tangible, there seemed no question about its origin, or its value. Coins were minted, banknotes were printed. Both were authorised by governments or central banks. But what is money today? In richer economies the use of cash is declining rapidly . Most monetary transactions are based on transfers between accounts: no physical money is involved.

In the run up to the financial crisis, the state's role in relation to money held in bank accounts was ambiguous. Banking was a monitored and licensed activity with some level of state guarantee of bank deposits, but the actual act of creating bank accounts was, and is, seen as a private matter. There may be regulations and limitations, but there is no detailed scrutiny of bank accounts and bank lending.

Yet, as the 2007-8 financial crisis showed, when bank accounts came under threat as banks teetered on the edge of bankruptcy, states and central banks had to step in and guarantee the security of all deposit accounts. The viability of money in non-investment bank accounts was demonstrated to be as much a public responsibility as cash.

The magic money tree. © Kate Mc , Author provided

This raises fundamental questions about money as a social institution. Is it right that money can be generated by a private choice to take on debt, which then becomes a liability of the state to guarantee in a crisis?

But far from seeing money as a public resource, under neoliberal handbag economics, money creation and circulation has increasingly been seen as a function of the market. Money is "made" solely in the private sector. Public spending is seen as a drain on that money, justifying austerity to make the public sector as small as possible.

This stance, however, is based on a complete misunderstanding of the nature of money, sustained by a series of deeply embedded myths.

Myths about money

Neoliberal handbag economics is derived from two key myths about the origin and nature of money. The first is that money emerged from a previous market economy based on barter. The second is that money was originally made from precious metal.

It is claimed that bartering proved to be very inefficient as each buyer-seller needed to find another person who exactly matched their requirements. A hat maker might barter a hat for some shoes she needs – but what if the shoe maker is in no need of a hat? The solution to this problem, so the story goes, was to choose one commodity that everyone desired, to act as a medium of exchange. Precious metal (gold and silver) was the obvious choice because it had its own value and could be easily divided and carried. This view of the origin of money goes back to at least the 18th century: the time of economist Adam Smith .

The 'father of capitalism' Adam Smith, 1723-1790. Matt Ledwinka/Shutterstock.com

These myths led to two assumptions about money that are still current today. First, that money is essentially connected to, and generated by, the marketplace. Second that modern money, like its original and ideal form, is always in short supply. Hence the neoliberal claim that public spending is a drain on the wealth-creating capacity of the market and that public spending must always be as limited as possible. Money is seen as a commercial instrument, serving a basic, market, technical, transactional function with no social or political force.

But the real story of money is very different. Evidence from anthropology and history shows that there was no widespread barter before markets based on money developed, and precious metal coinage emerged long before market economies. There are also many forms of money other than precious metal coins.

Money as custom

Something that acts as money has existed in most, if not all, human societies. Stones, shells, beads, cloths, brass rods and many other forms have been the means of comparing and acknowledging comparative value. But this was rarely used in a market context. Most early human communities lived directly off the land – hunting, fishing, gathering and gardening. The customary money in such communities was used mainly to celebrate auspicious social events or serve as a way of resolving social conflict.

For example, the Lele people, who lived in what is now the Democratic Republic of Congo in the 1950s, calculated value in woven raffia cloths . The number of cloths required for different occasions was fixed by custom. Twenty cloths should be given to a father by a son on achieving adulthood and a similar amount given to a wife on the birth of a child. The anthropologist Mary Douglas, who studied the Lele, found they were resistant to using the cloths in transactions with outsiders, indicating that the cloths had a specific cultural relevance.

Even stranger is the large stone money of the Yap people of Micronesia. Huge circular discs of stone could weigh up to four metric tons . Not something to put in your pocket for a trip to the shops.

Try lugging that to the market. Evenfh/Shutterstock.com

There is plenty of other anthropological evidence such as this all over the world, all pointing to the fact that money, in its earliest form, served a social rather than market-based purpose.

Money as power

For most traditional societies, the origin of the particular money form has been lost in the mist of time. But the origin and adoption of money as an institution became much more obvious with the emergence of states. Money did not originate as precious metal coinage with the development of markets. In fact, the new invention of precious metal coinage in around 600BC was adopted and controlled by imperial rulers to build their empires by waging war.

Most notable was Alexander the Great, who ruled from 336–323BC. He is said to have used half a ton of silver a day to fund his largely mercenary army rather than a share of the spoils (the traditional payment). He had more than 20 mints producing coins, which had images of gods and heroes and the word Alexandrou (of Alexander). From that time, new ruling regimes have tended to herald their arrival by a new coinage.

Alexandrou. Alex Coan/Shutterstock.com

More than a thousand years after the invention of coinage, the Holy Roman Emperor Charlemagne (742-814), who ruled most of western and central Europe, developed what became the basis of the British pre-decimal money system: pounds, shillings and pence. Charlemagne set up a currency system based on 240 pennies minted from a pound of silver. The pennies became established as the denier in France, the pfennig in Germany, the dinero in Spain, the denari in Italy and the penny in Britain.

So the real story of money as coinage was not one of barterers and traders: it emerged instead from a long history of politics, war and conflict. Money was an active agent in state and empire building, not a passive representation of price in the market. Control of the money supply was a major power of rulers: a sovereign power. Money was created and spent into circulation by rulers either directly, like Alexander, or through taxation or seizure of private holdings of precious metal.

Nor was early money necessarily based on precious metal. In fact, precious metal was relatively useless for building empires, because it was in short supply. Even in the Roman era, base metal was used, and Charlemagne's new money eventually became debased. In China, gold and silver did not feature and paper money was being used as early as the 9th century.

A coin from the time of Charlemagne, 768-814 AD. Classical Numismatic Group, CC BY-SA

What the market economy did introduce was a new form of money: money as debt.

Money as debt

If you look at a £20 banknote you will see it says: "I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of twenty pounds." This is a promise originally made by the Bank of England to exchange notes for the sovereign currency. The banknote was a new form of money. Unlike sovereign money it was not a statement of value, but a promise of value. A coin, even if made of base metal, was exchangeable in its own right: it did not represent another, superior, form of money. But when banknotes were first invented, they did.

The new invention of promissory notes emerged through the needs of trade in the 16th and 17th centuries. Promissory notes were used to acknowledge receipt of loans or investments and the obligation to repay them through the fruits of future transactions. A major task of the emerging profession of banking was to periodically set all these promises against each other and see who owed what to whom. This process of "clearing" meant that a great amount of paper commitments was reduced to relatively less actual transfer of money. Final settlement was either by payment with sovereign money (coins) or another promissory note (banknote).

Eventually, the banknotes became so trusted that they were treated as money in their own right. In Britain they became equivalent to the coinage, particularly when they were united under the banner of the Bank of England. Today, if you took a banknote to the Bank of England, it would merely exchange your note for one that is exactly the same. Banknotes are no longer promises, they are the currency. There is no other "real" money behind them.

What promissory notes became. Wara1982/Shutterstock.com

What modern money does retain is its association with debt. Unlike sovereign money, which was created and spent directly into circulation, modern money is largely borrowed into circulation through the banking system. This process shelters behind another myth, that banks merely act as a link between savers and borrowers. In fact, banks create money. And it is only in the last decade that this powerful myth has been finally put to rest by banking and monetary authorities.

It is now acknowledged by monetary authorities such as the IMF, the US Federal Reserve and the Bank of England, that banks are creating new money when they make loans. They don't lend the money of other account holders to those who want to borrow.

Bank loans consist of money conjured out of thin air, whereby new money is credited to the borrowers account with the agreement that the amount will eventually be repaid with interest.

The policy implications of the public currency being created out of nowhere and lent to borrowers on a purely commercial basis have still not been taken on board. Nor has basing a public currency on debt as opposed to the sovereign power to create and directly circulate money free of debt.

The result is that rather than using their own sovereign power over money creation, as Alexander the Great did, states have become borrowers from the private sector. Where there are public spending deficits or the need for large scale future expenditure, there is an expectation that the state will borrow the money or increase taxation, rather than create the money itself.

Creators of cash. Creative Lab/Shutterstock.com

Dilemmas of debt

But basing a money supply on debt is ecologically, socially and economically problematic.

Ecologically, there is a problem because the need to pay off debt could drive potentially damaging growth : money creation based on repaying debt with interest must imply constant growth in the money supply. If this is achieved through increasing productive capacity, there will inevitably be pressure on natural resources.

Basing the money supply on debt is also socially discriminatory because not all citizens are in a position to take on debt. The pattern of the money supply will tend to favour the already rich or the most speculative risk-taker. Recent decades, for example, have seen a huge amount of borrowing by the financial sector to enhance their investments.

The economic problem is that the money supply depends on the capacity of the various elements of the economy (public and private) to take on more debt. And so as countries have become more dependent upon bank-created money, debt bubbles and credit crunches have become more frequent.

This is because handbag economics creates an impossible task for the private sector. It has to create all new money through bank-issued debt and repay it all with interest. It has to completely fund the public sector and generate a profit for investors.

But when the privatised bank-led money supply flounders, the money creating powers of the state come back into clear focus. This was particularly plain in the 2007-8 crisis, when central banks created new money in the process known as quantitative easing. Central banks used the sovereign power to create money free of debt to spend directly into the economy (by buying up existing government debt and other financial assets, for example).

The question then becomes: if the state as represented by the central bank can create money out of thin air to save the banks – why can't it create money to save the people?

It's a mistake to think of the state as a piggybank or handbag. ColorMaker/Shutterstock.com

Money for the people

The myths about money have led us to look at public spending and taxation the wrong way around. Taxation and spending, like bank lending and repayment, is in a constant flow. Handbag economics assumes that it is taxation (of the private sector) that is raising the money to fund the public sector. That taxation takes money out of the taxpayer's pocket.

But the long political history of sovereign power over money would indicate that the flow of money can be in the opposite direction. In the same way that banks can conjure money out of thin air to make loans, states can conjure money out of thin air to fund public spending. Banks create money by setting up bank accounts, states create money by allocating budgets.

When governments set budgets they do not see how much money they have in a pre-existing taxation piggybank. The budget allocates spending commitments that may, or may not, match the amount of money coming in through taxation. Through its accounts in the treasury and the central bank, the state is constantly spending out and taking in money. If it spends more money than it takes in, it leaves more money in people's pockets. This creates a budget deficit and what is effectively an overdraft at the central bank.

Is this a problem? Yes, if the state is treated as if it was any other bank account holder – the dependent household of handbag economics. No, if it is seen as an independent source of money. States do not need to wait for handouts from the commercial sector. States are the authority behind the money system. The power exercised by the banks to create the public currency out of thin air is a sovereign power.

It is no longer necessary to mint coins like Alexander, money can be created by keystrokes. There is no reason why this should be monopolised by the banking sector to create new public money as debt. Deeming public spending as being equivalent to bank borrowing denies the public, the sovereign people in a democracy, the right to access its own money free of debt.

Money should be designed for the many, not the few. Varavin88/Shutterstock.com

Redefining money

This foray into the historical and anthropological stories about money shows that long-held conceptions – that money emerged from a previous market economy based on barter, and that it was originally made from precious metal – are fairytales. We need to recognise this. And we need to capitalise on the public ability to create money.

But it is also important to recognise that the sovereign power to create money is not a solution in itself. Both the state and bank capacity to create money have advantages and disadvantages. Both can be abused. The reckless lending of the banking sector, for example, led to the near meltdown of the American and European monetary and financial system. On the other hand, where countries do not have a developed banking sector, the money supply remains in the hands of the state, with massive room for corruption and mismanagement.

The answer must be to subject both forms of money creation – bank and state – to democratic accountability. Far from being a technical, commercial instrument, money can be seen as a social and political construct that has immense radical potential. Our ability to harness this is hampered if we do not understand what money is and how it works . Money must become our servant, rather than our master.

[Feb 27, 2019] It's Just Wrong - Fed Chair Powell Destroys MMT Dreams

Feb 27, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

We can already hear the whining from the uber-left's ivory tower as Fed Chair Jerome Powell unleashed some common-sense on the latest fraud being thrust upon Americans - that of Modern Monetary Theory (MMT).

As Bloomberg reminds, MMT argues that because America borrows in its own currency, it can always print more dollars to cover its obligations. As a result, the thinking goes, the U.S. can always run sustained budget deficits and rack up an ever-increasing debt burden. Helping grease the wheels for some MMTers is the expectation that the Fed would keep rates low to contain the cost of servicing America's obligations . With that in mind, Sen. David Perdue, R-Ga., asked Powell about the theory, saying its advocates back a "spend-now spend-later spend-often policy that would use massive annual deficits to fund these tremendously expensive policy proposals." MMT advocates figure the Fed would be a partner in funding these programs through easy monetary policy.

Powell's response was brief and to the point:

"The idea that deficits don't matter for countries that can borrow in their own currency I think is just wrong..."

"And to the extent that people are talking about using the Fed -- our role is not to provide support for particular policies," Powell said.

"Decisions about spending, and controlling spending and paying for it, are really for you."

Simply put, Powell explained that the increasingly popular theory espoused by progressives that the government can continue to borrow to fund social programs such as Medicare for everyone, free college tuition and a conversion to renewable energy in the next decade is unworkable and makes some "pretty extreme claims."

Earlier in the hearing Powell also noted that "U.S. debt is fairly high to the level of GDP -- and much more importantly -- it's growing faster than GDP, really significantly faster. We are going to have to spend less or raise more revenue."


Let it Go , 10 hours ago link

In his book "A Time For Action" written in 1980 William Simon, a former Secretary of the Treasury tells how he was "frightened and angry". In short, he sounded the trumpet about how he saw the country was heading down the wrong path. William Simon (1927 – 2000) was a businessman and a philanthropist.

Simon became the Secretary of the Treasury on May 8, 1974, during the Nixon administration and was reappointed by President Ford and served until 1977. I recently picked up a copy of the book that I had read decades ago and while re-reading it I reflected on and tried to evaluate the events that brought us to today.

Out of this came an article reflecting on how the economy of today had been greatly shaped by the actions that took place starting around 1979. Interest rates, inflation, and debt do matter and are more significant than most people realize. Rewarding savers and placing a value on the allocation of financial assets is important.

The path has again become unsustainable and many people will be shocked when the reality hits, this is not the way it has always been. The day of reckoning may soon be upon us, how it arrives is the question. Many of us see it coming, but the one thing we can bank on is that after it arrives many people will be caught totally off guard. The piece below explores how we reached this point.

http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2015/04/interest-rates-inflation-and-debt-matter.html

Condor_0000 , 14 hours ago link

The Fed loved MMT when it was called quantitative easing and all the trillions were going to the one-percenters. They proved MMT works beautifully.

It's funny how the ruling-class talks so differently depending upon whether the 1% are benefiting or the 99% are benefiting.

"Reagan proved deficits don't matter." - greedy capitalist-**** **** Cheney as the 1% were looting the public till for tax cuts.

alfbell , 15 hours ago link

This is not fair to MMT for two reasons...

1) It isn't a theory, just an explanation of the US monetary system and how it works. It isn't advocating the system, it is just stating how it works and how one would need to operate within it.

2) MMT states that money shouldn't be created (spent into the economy by the gov) unless the necessary capacity, productivity, workers, resources and assets existed in the economy. And, if they didn't, they'd have to be created first. This would prevent inflation, not create it.

Most everyone is misinformed and hasn't done their homework as to what MMT is. The Libtards have taken an MMT point out of context and run with it. PRINT MONEY! But they omit the key MMT policy point of... "Print/spend ONLY ONLY ONLY if the productive capacity and resources are already in the economy to balance any gov spending out." A slightly important point that they conveniently overlooked due to their 2nd grade understanding of finance, economics and accounting.

HamburgerToday , 16 hours ago link

MMT simply doesn't work if a nation 'borrows' its own currency. However, if it does not, then MMT would at least theoretically be correct because the issue of 'printing money' (or creating credit) would not be tied to debt but would entail a balancing of the beneficial and adverse effects of monetary inflation.

Batman11 , 17 hours ago link

Alan Greenspan tells Paul Ryan the Government can create all the money it wants and there is no need to save for pensions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNCZHAQnfGU

What matters is whether the goods and services are there for them to buy with that money.

Money comes out of nothing and is just numbers typed in at a keyboard.

Too much and you get inflation (consumer price and/or asset price inflation), too little and you get deflation.

The true nature of money is revealed with hyper inflation.

Wheel barrows of the stuff won't buy you anything, it has no intrinsic value.

yogibear , 16 hours ago link

Hence state bailouts of NJ, IL, CA, etc. Money from helicopters coming to those that are broke!

Freebies from the Fed.

JD59 , 17 hours ago link

It is all FIAT CURRENCY, the debt is WORTHLESS, and means nothing.

Rusty Pipes , 16 hours ago link

Tell that to future (unaborted) generations. $10 billion a week in interest payments now, at relatively low rates, and rising.

Stuck on Zero , 17 hours ago link

There is some evidence that you can print money and spend it and have a vibrant, powerful economy. It depends on how you spend it. If it's spent on supportive infrastructure such as energy, transportation, utilities, communications, etc. it's all upwards. If it's spent on welfare, war machinery, and supporting the bureaucracy the system fails in one generation.

brushhog , 17 hours ago link

Underlying the whole premise of MMT is the question; Does the market determine interest rates or does the fed?

I know the fed determines the federal funds rate but are they the sole dictator of interest rates? A large portion of our debt is purchased by both domestic and foreign investors. These are independent people....as well as governments. Will they continue to buy bonds at 2% interest from a country that has a debt-to-GDP ration of 300% and 10 trillion dollar yearly deficits??

If US debt gets downgraded, can the fed over-ride the tide of reality and dictate low interest rates? Can they print enough to buy them all or do they have to maintain a functioning balance sheet as well?

daveeemc2 , 17 hours ago link

cut spending - why does usa need fbi branches in every foreign country?

why do we need so many outdated military machines (ahem aircraft carriers)

why does health care and education cost so much (ahem we forget to talk about cost, only how to pay the fee imposed by the business)

Much of our debt is result of party over country, pointless wars (that Iraq oil is now controlled by Russia and china..so much for the return on investment there), Afghanistan is a failed and foolish intervention - just ask russia, syria is a soverign nation leave them alone, same as venezuala.

Retrench and let the world figure itself out - after pakistan and india nuke each other back to stone age, lets hope for humanities sake we can get real global cooperative leadership that doesnt include the capitalist big read white and blue **** smacking foreign nations on the forehead to further the elites agenda.

[Feb 09, 2019] Large Excess Reserves and the Relationship between Money and Prices - FRB Richmond

Notable quotes:
"... But otherwise, quite correct. Raise payments on deposits and get more deposits. Raise charges on loans and get fewer loans. I might note that the Fed has supposedly paused rate hikes, but deposits are still exiting the system faster than loans. This result can be had via Fred. Thus the curve is getting more3 inverted. ..."
Feb 09, 2019 | economistsview.typepad.com

Joe , February 06, 2019 at 04:54 PM

Large Excess Reserves and the Relationship between Money and Prices - FRB Richmond

At the same time that it has been normalizing its balance sheet, the Fed also has been raising its target for interest rates. The ability to pay interest on reserves has been crucial to allowing the Fed to raise its target rate while there are still significant excess reserves in the banking system. Despite these rate increases, due to various secular reasons, interest rates are expected to remain historically low for a long time.

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I sample the current expectation, and it is a bit more detailed. The expectation is that the curve will remain inverted, generally with a zero near the five yer mark, if I judge from the Treasury curve where the curve has been inverted with a zero near the five yer mark.

The ten year rate will remain historically higher than the five year rate for some time, evidently. If we measure interest rate as the per annum percent of Real GDP devoted to nominal federal interest charges, then the interest rate was higher than it has ever been going back to 1972, briefly (four months ago) , and now occupies the second highest level since just before the 92 recession, at about 3.5% of GDP. These result can be had in Fred by dividing nominal interest payments by real GDP.

But otherwise, quite correct. Raise payments on deposits and get more deposits. Raise charges on loans and get fewer loans. I might note that the Fed has supposedly paused rate hikes, but deposits are still exiting the system faster than loans. This result can be had via Fred. Thus the curve is getting more3 inverted.

Why do we know the curve will invert? It is the law, when the Fed loses deposits, loan charges drop, not rise as would be normal. That is why we all expect the curve to remain inverted, the law. The law is specifically designed so the Fed holds the current low rate as long as possible, then does the sudden regime change. The law, written into the law, a rule requires that we spend time with an inverted yield curve before price adjustment. I emphasis the law because it is actually typed out, signed and enforced publicly.

The law requires the Fed hold the curve as long as possible, mainly so the pres and Congress have time to react to changes in term of trade. So, like under Obama, we hold the line on rates until Obama and the Repubs agree on a tax and spending plan going forward, then the treasury curve gains traction again. Te law, it is not under debate unless you want to be arreswted.

[Feb 05, 2019] Money's true nature is law. When a country collapses, then its money collapses.

Feb 05, 2019 | www.unz.com

MEFOBILLS , says: February 3, 2019 at 8:07 pm GMT

@nsa Sorry, not true.

The original bronze disks of Rome circulated as currency. The metal money of U.S. Confederacy circulated that is until the Confederacy became no more.

The point? Money's true nature is law. When a country collapses, then its money collapses.

Paper money that was good? Lincoln's greenbacks circulated at par. Massachusetts Bills circulated as money and prevented Oligarchs from England and their attempted takeover. The colony used the money to make iron goods (like Cannons) and do commerce.

The real statement is this: Money when it becomes unlawful, always collapses.

Massive money printing can happen when too many loans are made, as in the case today as all private bank credit notes come into being with loan activity -- a little more that 98%.

Driving a currency down with shorts causes new money to be loaned into existence, which in turn is the underlying cause of hyperinflations. The new credit creation covers the short. This mechanism always goes along with exchange rate pressures, where your country has to pay a debt in a foreign currency.

If you had an internal gold currency, which is recognized internationally, then your debts would be paid in gold, which would collapse your country into depression instead of inflation.

Bottom line is that money's true nature is law, and making claims about "paper" or "metal" obscures this fact.

cassandra , says: February 3, 2019 at 8:38 pm GMT
@eah

Since both the Fed and your local bank create money from nothing

They also impose some obligations: repayment of principle and interest. Since we can't create money from nothing, this payback has to come from money somehow created by the banks as well.

I'm less worried about "disappearing" tax money than I am about misallocated spending and its consequences -- eg the 'black budget' of the NSA and 'deep state' generally.

Can't we worry about everything ?

Good point about the 'black budget'. But the last time some sort of DOD audit was attempted the Pentagon accountants' offices got hit by a missile, I mean airliner, on 911.

[Feb 04, 2019] Externally, a nation's currency usually has value to the extent that a nation has something to offer others, which makes the currency useful for making a desired purchase. Today, the "desired purchase" is oil.

Feb 04, 2019 | www.unz.com

cassandra , says: February 4, 2019 at 9:43 pm GMT

@MEFOBILLS +++++

I'd extend your comment a bit.

Internally, a national currency has a value corresponding to demand placed by the government, such as money for the taxes the state requires of its people. The ups and downs of Lincoln's Greenback fiat currency, especially its interaction with the value of gold, demonstrates how currency is tied to confidence in the government, as you suggest.

Externally, a nation's currency usually has value to the extent that a nation has something to offer others, which makes the currency useful for making a desired purchase. Today, the "desired purchase" is oil. The dollar is valued because you need dollars to buy oil, as formerly enforced by diplomatic pressure. Because of US sanctions, trade in oil is now beginning using rubles, yuan, and most unforgivably, Venezuelan currency! (Like Iraq, Libya and Syria). If this keeps up, countries will no longer need dollars for their oil, and $ will have to compete internationally based on other considerations. That won't be pretty. IMHO, US leaders have dangerously eroding the dollar's pre-eminence by profligate use of sanctions.

I need to remedy my own deficiencies in this area, but advocates of Modern Monetary Theory, like Michael Hudson, Steve Keene, and like-minded economists who often post at nakedcapitalism, make a strong case for a fiat money system, issued and controlled by state banks, in contrast to the private banks as now.

But objecting to the fact that private bankers charge us interest, and act above the law and democratic accountability, is such a quaint complaint.

[Feb 03, 2019] Neoliberalism and Christianity

Highly recommended!
Money quote: " neoliberalism is the fight of finance to subdue society at large, and to make the bankers and creditors today in the position that the landlords were under feudalism."
Notable quotes:
"... ... if you take the Bible literally, it's the fight in almost all of the early books of the Old Testament, the Jewish Bible, all about the fight over indebtedness and debt cancellation. ..."
"... neoliberalism is the fight of finance to subdue society at large,and to make the bankers and creditors today in the position that the landlords were under feudalism. ..."
"... They call themselves free marketers, but they realize that you cannot have neoliberalism unless you're willing to murder and assassinate everyone who promotes an alternative ..."
"... Just so long as you remember that most of the strongest and most moving condemnations of greed and money in the ancient and (today) western world are also Jewish--i.e. Isaiah, Jeremiah, Micah, the Gospels, Letter of James, etc. ..."
"... The history of Jewish banking after the fall or Rome is inextricable from cultural anti-judaism of Christian west and east and de facto marginalization/ghettoization of Jews from most aspects of social life. The Jewish lending of money on interest to gentiles was both necessary for early mercantilist trade and yet usury was prohibited by the church. So Jewish money lenders were essential to and yet ostracized within European economies for centuries. ..."
"... Now Christianity has itself long given up on the tradition teaching against usury of course. ..."
"... In John, for instance most of the references to what in English is translated as "the Jews" are in Greek clearly references to "the Judaeans"--and especially to the ruling elite among the southern tribe in bed with the Romans. ..."
May 02, 2018 | www.moonofalabama.org

karlof1 , May 1, 2018 2:27:06 PM | 13

Just finished reading the fascinating Michael Hudson interview I linked to on previous thread; but since we're discussing Jews and their religion in a tangential manner, I think it appropriate to post here since the history Hudson explains is 100% key to the ongoing pain us humans feel and inflict. My apologies in advance, but it will take this long excerpt to explain what I mean:

"Tribes: When does the concept of a general debt cancellation disappear historically?

"Michael: I guess in about the second or third century AD it was downplayed in the Bible. After Jesus died, you had, first of all, St Paul taking over, and basically Christianity was created by one of the most evil men in history, the anti-Semite Cyril of Alexandria. He gained power by murdering his rivals, the Nestorians, by convening a congress of bishops and killing his enemies. Cyril was really the Stalin figure of Christianity, killing everybody who was an enemy, organizing pogroms against the Jews in Alexandria where he ruled.

"It was Cyril that really introduced into Christianity the idea of the Trinity. That's what the whole fight was about in the third and fourth centuries AD. Was Jesus a human, was he a god? And essentially you had the Isis-Osiris figure from Egypt, put into Christianity. The Christians were still trying to drive the Jews out of Christianity. And Cyril knew the one thing the Jewish population was not going to accept would be the Isis figure and the Mariolatry that the church became. And as soon as the Christian church became the establishment rulership church, the last thing it wanted in the West was debt cancellation.

"You had a continuation of the original Christianity in the Greek Orthodox Church, or the Orthodox Church, all the way through Byzantium. And in my book And Forgive Them Their Debts, the last two chapters are on the Byzantine echo of the original debt cancellations, where one ruler after another would cancel the debts. And they gave very explicit reason for it: if we don't cancel the debts, we're not going to be able to field an army, we're not going to be able to collect taxes, because the oligarchy is going to take over. They were very explicit, with references to the Bible, references to the jubilee year. So you had Christianity survive in the Byzantine Empire. But in the West it ended in Margaret Thatcher. And Father Coughlin.

"Tribes: He was the '30s figure here in the States.

"Michael: Yes: anti-Semite, right-wing, pro-war, anti-labor. So the irony is that you have the people who call themselves fundamentalist Christians being against everything that Jesus was fighting for, and everything that original Christianity was all about."

Hudson says debt forgiveness was one of the central tenets of Judaism: " ... if you take the Bible literally, it's the fight in almost all of the early books of the Old Testament, the Jewish Bible, all about the fight over indebtedness and debt cancellation. "

Looks like I'll be purchasing Hudson's book as he's essentially unveiling a whole new, potentially revolutionary, historical interpretation.

psychohistorian , May 1, 2018 3:31:50 PM | 26
@ karlof1 with the Michale Hudson link....thanks!!

Here is the quote that I really like from that interview
"
Michael: No. You asked what is the fight about? The fight is whether the state will be taken over, essentially to be an extension of Wall Street if you do not have government planning. Every economy is planned. Ever since the Neolithic (era), you've had to have (a form of) planning. If you don't have a public authority doing the planning, then the financial authority becomes the planners. So globalism is in the financial interest –Wall Street and the City of London, doing the planning, not governments. They will do the planning in their own interest. So neoliberalism is the fight of finance to subdue society at large,and to make the bankers and creditors today in the position that the landlords were under feudalism.
"

karlof1, please email me as I would like to read the book as well and maybe we can share a copy.

And yes, it is relevant to Netanyahoo and his ongoing passel of lies because humanity has been told and been living these lives for centuries...it is time to stop this shit and grow up/evolve

james , May 1, 2018 10:30:01 PM | 96
@13 / 78 karlof1... thanks very much for the links to michael hudson, alastair crooke and the bruno maraces articles...

they were all good for different reasons, but although hudson is being criticized for glossing over some of his talking points, i think the main thrust of his article is very worthwhile for others to read! the quote to end his article is quite good "The question is, who do you want to run the economy? The 1% and the financial sector, or the 99% through politics? The fight has to be in the political sphere, because there's no other sphere that the financial interests cannot crush you on."

it seems to me that the usa has worked hard to bad mouth or get rid of government and the concept of government being involved in anything.. of course everything has to be run by a 'private corp' - ie corporations must run everything.. they call them oligarchs when talking about russia, lol - but they are corporations when they are in the usa.. slight rant..

another quote i especially liked from hudson.. " They call themselves free marketers, but they realize that you cannot have neoliberalism unless you're willing to murder and assassinate everyone who promotes an alternative ." that sounds about right...

@ 84 juliania.. aside from your comments on hudsons characterization of st paul "the anti-Semite Cyril of Alexandria" further down hudson basically does the same with father coughlin - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Coughlin.. he gets the anti-semite tag as well.. i don't know much about either characters, so it's mostly greek to me, but i do find some of hudsons views especially appealing - debt forgiveness being central to the whole article as i read it...

it is interesting my own view on how money is so central to the world and how often times I am incapable of avoiding the observation of the disproportionate number of Jewish people in banking.. I guess that makes me anti-semite too, but i don't think of myself that way.. I think the obsession with money is killing the planet.. I don't care who is responsible for keeping it going, it is killing us...

WJ | May 1, 2018 10:48:58 PM | 100

James @96,

Just so long as you remember that most of the strongest and most moving condemnations of greed and money in the ancient and (today) western world are also Jewish--i.e. Isaiah, Jeremiah, Micah, the Gospels, Letter of James, etc.

The history of Jewish banking after the fall or Rome is inextricable from cultural anti-judaism of Christian west and east and de facto marginalization/ghettoization of Jews from most aspects of social life. The Jewish lending of money on interest to gentiles was both necessary for early mercantilist trade and yet usury was prohibited by the church. So Jewish money lenders were essential to and yet ostracized within European economies for centuries.

Now Christianity has itself long given up on the tradition teaching against usury of course.

WJ , May 1, 2018 8:23:40 PM | 88
Juliana @84,

I too greatly admire the work of Hudson but he consistently errs and oversimplifies whenever discussing the beliefs of and the development of beliefs among preNicene followers of the way (as Acts puts is) or Christians (as they came to be known in Antioch within roughly eight or nine decades after Jesus' death.) Palestinian Judaism in the time of Jesus was much more variegated than scholars even twenty years ago had recognized. The gradual reception and interpretation of the Dead Sea Scrolls in tandem with renewed research into Phili of Alexandria, the Essenes, the so-called Sons of Zadok, contemporary Galilean zealot movements styles after the earlier Maccabean resistance, the apocalyptism of post exilic texts like Daniel and (presumably) parts of Enoch--all paint a picture of a highly diverse group of alternatives to the state-Church once known as Second Temple Judaism that has been mistaken as undisputed Jewish "orthodoxy" since the advent of historical criticism.

The Gospel of John, for example, which dates from betweeen 80-120 and is the record of a much earlier oral tradition, is already explicitly binitarian, and possibly already trinitarian depending on how one understands the relationship between the Spirit or Advocate and the Son. (Most ante-Nicene Christians understood the Spirit to be *Christ's* own spirit in distributed form, and they did so by appeal to a well-developed but still largely under recognized strand in Jewish angelology.)

The "theological" development of Christianity occurred much sooner that it has been thought because it emerged from an already highly theologized strand or strands of Jewish teaching that, like Christianity itself, privileged the Abrahamic covenant over the Mosaic Law, the testament of grace over that of works, and the universal scope of revelation and salvation as opposed to any political or ethnic reading of the "Kingdom."

None of these groups were part of the ruling class of Judaean priests and levites and their hangers on the Pharisees.

In John, for instance most of the references to what in English is translated as "the Jews" are in Greek clearly references to "the Judaeans"--and especially to the ruling elite among the southern tribe in bed with the Romans.

So the anti-Judaism/Semiti of John's Gispel largely rests on a mistranslation. In any event, everything is much more complex than Hudson makes it out to be. Christian economic radicalism is alive and well in the thought of Gregory of Nysa and Basil the Great, who also happened to be Cappadocian fathers highly influential in the development of "orthodox" Trinitarianism in the fourth century.

I still think that Hudson's big picture critique of the direction later Christianity took is helpful and necessary, but this doesn't change the fact that he simplifies the origins, development, and arguably devolution of this movement whenever he tries to get specific. It is a worthwhile danger given the quality of his work in historical economics, but still one has to be aware of.

[Jan 29, 2019] Modern Monetary Theory A Cargo Cult

Jan 29, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Newly elected Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently said that Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) absolutely needed to be "a larger part of our conversation." Her comment shines a spotlight on MMT. So what is it? According to Wikipedia , it is:

"a macroeconomic theory that describes the currency as a public monopoly and unemployment as the evidence that a currency monopolist is restricting the supply of the financial assets needed to pay taxes and satisfy savings desires."

It is uncontroversial to say that the Federal Reserve has a monopoly on the dollar. So let's look at the second proposition. Unemployment, MMT holds, is evidence that the supply of dollars is restricted.

In other words, more money causes more employment!

This does not sound very different from what the New Keynesians say. Keith analyzed former Fed Chair Janet Yellen's seminal paper on the economics of labor for Forbes :

"Here is their [Yellen and co-author Ackerloff] tenuous chain of logic:

  1. Disgruntled employees don't work hard, and may even sabotage machinery.
  2. So companies must overpay to keep them from slacking.
  3. Higher pay per worker means fewer workers, because companies have a finite budget.

Yellen concludes -- you guessed it:

  1. inflation provides corporations with more money to hire more people."

As a footnote, MMT is referred to as neo-Chartalism, and there is some evidence that Keynes was influenced by Chartalism (which goes back to at least 1905).

On Thursday, Marketplace published a piece on MMT . Things are heating up for this hot new (old) idea. Marketplace presented a "bathroom sink" model of the economy (yes, really!)

To wrap your brain around this concept, picture a bathroom sink. Think of the government and its ability to create more money whenever it needs to as the faucet and that bucket area of the sink where the water goes as the economy.

The government controls how much money, or water, is flowing into the economy. It spends money into the economy by building interstates or paying farm subsidies or funding programs.

"And so as those dollars reach the economy, they begin to fill up that bucket, and what you want to do is be very mindful about how full that bucket is getting or you're going to get an inflation problem," [Bernie Sanders economic advisor Stephanie] Kelton said.

Inflation is where the sink overflows. If that happens, Kelton said there are two ways to fix it: "You can slow the flow of dollars coming into that bucket. That means the government then has to start slowing it's [sic] rate of spending, or you can open up the drain and let some of those dollars out of the economy. And that's what we do when we collect taxes."

This sounds a lot like the Quantity Theory of Money (QTM). This view often paints a picture of pouring water into a container. The higher the water level, the higher the general price level.

QTM by itself does not promote the idea that more money causes more employment. Only that more money causes more rising prices. But Keynes did. And the New Keynesians like Yellen do.

So what makes MMT unique?

According to Stephanie Kelton, in the Marketplace article:

"If you control your own currency and you have bills that are coming due, it means you can always afford to pay the bills on time," Kelton said. "You can never go broke, you can never be forced into bankruptcy. You're nothing like a household."

Keynes taught us about government deficits to bolster employment and government deficits to respond to a crisis. MMT teaches us how to get to the next level. The voters want free goodies. Traditional economics says "there ain't no such thing as a free lunch."

MMT says "oh yes there is!"

At least until you get to too much inflation . The Monetarists would agree, don't print too much money or you get too much inflation . Much of the gold community also agrees. If you print too much money, then you get skyrocketing inflation .

Never mind that this prediction was proven wrong in the post-2008 policy response. We want to highlight that the Keyesians, the Monetarists, the MMTers, and even many Austrians largely agree. The problem with too much money printing is too much inflation . They quibble about what is too much, but they agree on the "bathroom sink" model of the economy.

In the words of early 20 th century physicist Wolfgang Pauli, QTM "is not even wrong ."

We define inflation as the counterfeiting of credit. That is, fraudulently taking money from a saver. It is called borrowing , but the borrower hasn't got the means or intent to repay. Additionally, when everyone thinks that the government's debt paper is money , the saver doesn't even know or consent to the borrowing.

There are lies, damnlies, and statistics. Then there are a few pugnacious, in your face, gaslighting make-you-believe-in-unreality cargo cults. We will explore this in full, below.

During World War II, the US military set up operations on certain Pacific islands. They built landing strips, where they landed planes bringing in supplies and men. They hired the local tribesmen as labor, and paid them stuff that was ordinary to Americans, but wondrous to the islanders. Like canned food. The islanders really looked forward to when a plane would land, and they would get some cargo.

After the war, the US military pulled up stakes and left. But the islanders still wanted the cargos. So they set up these elaborate charades, with tiki torches instead of flashlights, and coconut shell mockup headphones. They went through the motions that they thought the Americans did. To try to bring back the cargos.

Huh. What does that remind you of? An elaborate charade, with bogus props, going through the motions of a civilization they don't understand to try to produce desired results -- free goodies?

Modern Monetary Theory is a cargo cult.

It's ironic that the name includes the word modern . If we said that a pile of greasy rags sealed in a dark closet would spontaneously generate rats, would you call that a modern theory? If we said that sickness is caused by bad humors, and the cure is bloodletting by leaches, would you say this is modern ? How about the idea that the Sun and the planets orbit the Earth. Is this modern , too?

Not only are these not modern -- they are, in fact, old ideas that were tossed into the garbage heap -- they are not theories either. A theory is an explanation of reality, which integrates many observed facts and contradicts none. Modern Monetary Theory is neither modern nor a theory .

MMT is not an attempt to explain reality, but to deny it.

Even a child understands something. Even people in the ancient world understood it, too. If you lend a bushel of wheat to your neighbor, and he does not repay it, you suffer a loss. You are worse off, compared to before. And so is the borrower (who at the least ruins his credit).

MMT is based on denying this universal truth. Common sense says that if Peter lends to Paul, and Paul does not repay, then Peter is impoverished. Common sense says that Peter would not lend to Paul if he knew that Paul would renege on his obligation.

MMT says that a modern economy has a modern currency, which is just the state's paper. And in a modern economy, the modern state can print more with no concerns other than "overflowing the bathroom sink". Get that, the only concern is prices could rise too fast. And so long as this does not occur, then the state can get away with it. Only, there is nothing to get away with. It's perfectly fine.

In a cargo cult, the people did not recognize the difference between fake coconut shell headphones, and real headphones. Or flashlights and tiki torches. So they made crude copies as best they could. They went through the motions to summon the sky gods to come down to earth, with cargo.

Let's look at the mental gymnastics. They imbued magical -- that is outside the principle of cause and effect -- characteristics to their props. Failing to understand that airplanes are created by men, and that it takes a great deal of planning (not to mention wealth) to fly a plane full of cargo from America to the middle of the Pacific, they imagined that, somehow, the act of using the headphones and the flashlights caused the plane and its cargo to come. The headset is tokenized, viewed as a magical talisman.

What a cargo cult does to headphones, MMT does to money. First, the cargo cult substitutes coconut shells held together with twisted vine for headphones. What they wear when attempting to summon the sky gods is not a headset, but a surrogate. MMT (as does Keynesianism and Monetarism) substitutes government debt paper for money.

As an aside, even a gold-redeemable certificate is not money. Think about it. You can bring this piece of paper to the teller window. You push it across the counter. The teller pushes back the gold coin. If the word for the paper is money, then what is the word for the gold for which it redeems?

Anyways, modern monetary systems use irredeemable paper. It's not gold-redeemable, but even worse. And they treat this paper as if it were money .

And it goes even farther. Previous theories felt the need to at least pay lip service to repaying debt. They couldn't quite get to the point of openly admitting that the debt is never to be repaid. Keynes famously quipped that, "in the long run, we are all dead," creating ambiguity about the intention to repay. Monetarists generally promote the idea that if the economy grows fast enough, the debt will shrink as a proportion of GDP.

The Keynesians don't have the intention to repay. And the Monetarists don't look at Marginal Productivity of Debt , which would show them that their idea isn't working. But they don't go as far as the MMT'ers.

MMT says that the government is unlike deadbeat-debtor Paul. There is no need for the government to repay. It's the same as the cargo cult. The cargo cult has no concept for capital. The islanders do not produce in excess of what they consume, accumulating tools and technology to increase their productivity. They subsist, and assume that this is how the world works.

MMT has no concept for capital either. It puts blinders on, declaring that consumer prices are the only thing to measure. The only risk is if they rise too fast. And the MMT'ers refuse to see anything else.

In our discussion of Yield Purchasing Power , we introduced a farmer who sells off the back 40 (acres), chops down the apple orchard to sell the fruitwood, tears down the old barn to sell the planks, and even dismantles the tractor. And why does he do this? He gets cash in exchange. And the cash is far in excess of his crop yield. Why struggle and sweat to produce $20,000 a year by growing food, when you can sell off the piece of the farm for $20,000,000.

The monetary system incentivizes the farmer to trade productive capital for paper credit slips. The incentive is that this paper has a greater purchasing power than what he can earn by operating the farm. He can trade his farm for far more groceries, than the food he could grow on it.

This is the same old game. But MMT gives it a new name -- and asserts a bolder defense. MMT'ers don't want to see, and they want you not to see, that the lender gives up good capital but the borrower is just consuming it.

MMT justifies the naked consumption of capital.

Supply and Demand Fundamentals

The prices of the metals rose this week, especially on Friday. The exchange rate of gold went up twenty two US dollars, and that of silver 41 US cents.

As we will discuss below, we think that there is a rethinking of gold occurring in the market. And we don't just mean celebrities like Sam Zell buying gold for the first time.

There is a sense of déjà vu. Starting in mid-2004, the Fed went on one of its rate-hiking sprees. It did not manage to get as high as the previous peak of 6.5%, set prior to the previous crisis. In 2006, this rate topped out at 5.25%. In both the crisis of 2001, and the crisis of 2008, the Fed had begun cutting rates before the official indication of recession , and the cuts occurred more rapidly than the preceding hikes.

The cuts were too little and/or too late to avert disaster.

The problem is that during the period of low rates, firms are incentivized to borrow. They finance projects which generate a low rate of return. These projects would not be financed, but for the even-lower cost of borrowing. When rates rise, it does not increase the rate of return produced by marginal projects (likely the opposite). So borrowers are squeezed.

The Fed eventually comes along with its fix -- even lower rates. While this is too late to save firms that are teetering into default, it does enable the next wave of borrowing for even-poorer-projects.

And now, here we are. Since its first tepid hike in December 2005, the Fed has been hiking for just over three years so far. It has hit a rate well under half of the peak of 2006-2007. The president has publicly urged the Fed to reverse policy course. And the Fed said it is listening to the market, and may have paused hiking for now.

Meanwhile, the Fed Funds rate may be lower than the previous peak but it is much higher than it was from the end of 2008 through the end of 2015. For seven years, it was basically zero. Nobody knows how many dollars' worth of projects were financed that were only justified, only possible, due to this zero interest-rate policy. But it was surely a lot (we would guess at least trillions).

And now the rate is up to 2.25%. Many of those projects are no longer justified, and can no longer service the debt that finances them.

And none of this is a secret. It is well known to the borrowers, of course. And their creditors. And the Fed. And hedge funds and other sophisticated speculators. And not just in general theory, but lists of specific companies and the rollover dates of their bond issues.

Rollover is key to this. After decades of falling interest, everyone has learned the game of using short-term financing. But the risk is that it must be rolled over. And when it is rolled, the previous low-rate is replaced with the higher, current rate. And that's when we find out which businesses can still pay.

So what will the Fed do? The next programs will have a new name, but the Fed must lower the cost of capital if it wants to keep the game going.

Is this time going to be the total collapse of the dollar? We don't believe so, as there is still a lot of capital remaining and more is flooding in as people abandon the dollar-derivative currencies. So we think of it as déjà vu, the Fed is likely to do something similar to last time.

And that is an environment where even the non-goldbugs see clear and compelling arguments for owning gold.

It could be that the timing is not now. It could be that it will take months or years to arrive at this point. We make no predictions of timing. However, we note that the Monetary Metals Gold Fundamental Price has been in a rising trend since mid-October. Its low was on October 9 ($1,266).

Silver is similar, but a bit different. The low in its fundamental occurred in late November ($14.37). But it's up like a rocket since then, now about two bucks higher.

We are at an interesting point.

Let's take a look at the only true picture of the supply and demand fundamentals of gold and silver. But, first, here is the chart of the prices of gold and silver.

[Nov 20, 2018] The Torah, biblical and Quran stories were written in agrarian societies where capitalistic enterprise hardly existed. Loans were for not dying of hunger in the period between when the food of the last harvest had been used completely, and the new harvest was still in the future.

Nov 20, 2018 | www.unz.com

jilles dykstra , says: November 14, 2018 at 12:21 pm GMT

@tac The Torah, biblical and Quran stories were written in agrarian societies where capitalistic enterprise hardly existed.
Loans were for not dying of hunger in the period between when the food of the last harvest had been used completely, and the new harvest was still in the future.
Thus interest was seen as blackmailing people, they needed money to prevent dying of starvation.
There was enterprise long ago, and trade over long distances, in the early centuries for example swords from Damascus were famous in Europe, and exported to Europe.
Investment for business was the exception, even the first iron smelting installations were simple, those who wanted them could build them by themselves.
The idea that invested money could yield money came later, when installations became more complex, ships bigger, etc.
With investment came risk, there was not much risk in consumptive loans, they normally could paid out of the coming harvest.
And so the problem began, a church not understanding capitalism, an agrarian society based on barter changing into a money using capitalistic society.
Commercial people had no problem with interest, even now Muslims do not have problems with interest.
What they do is simply giving interest other names, such as a fine for repaying late.
It has been agreed that the repayment will be late, so anybody is happy.

[Nov 20, 2018] It is an interesting side-note that both Christianity and Islam both prohibit the use of usury

Nov 20, 2018 | www.unz.com

tac , says: November 14, 2018 at 6:35 am GMT

@renfro And there you have it in a nutshell: usary -- the usurper of civilization, the enslaver of humanity, the seed of ultimate degeneracy. It seems humanity is adverse to learn from history. It is an interesting side-note that both Christianity and Islam both prohibit the use of usury (a consideration worthy of mention when one contemplates the ongoing wars in the ME) and some who here take shots at Farakhann, 'neo-nazis', blue-hair and other deplorables.

Our dilemma today is the same that occurred in Rome. Our country and people will suffer the same fate if usury continues as it has. From the onset of history, it has been the moneychangers, who have exploited mankind for pure profit. Usury is an abomination against God's statutes, which manipulates and destroys people, families, and nations. It is by the profits made from usury used to attack Christianity. One needs only to ask- who is in control of usury worldwide? Didn't Rome suffer from these same people? Usury brings forth an insidious side to all people. The temptation to borrow is powerful, and it always polarizes lender against borrower where the former becomes the master and the later, the slave. As a vice, neighbor is pitted against his neighbor, and nation against nation.

[...]

The Roman government was far too corrupt already with its politicians bought by moneychangers for any fledgling Christian sect to have an affect on its decline. The moneychanger's demand was perpetually self-serving, which was disparate to the common good of the populace. Originally, Rome was founded as a republic. The unchecked influence of the moneychangers caused it to change into a democracy. A republic is derived through the election of public officials whose attitude toward property is respected in terms of law for individual rights. A democracy is derived through the election of public officials whose attitude toward property is communistic and respects the "collective good" of the population instead of the individual. This is the resultant system that moneychangers bring to civilization. The subversion of power is a sleight of hand that changes the right of the individual into what is often called the "collective good" of the people (communistic), which is always controlled by an alliance of powerful interests.

There is no reference in the article to the moneychangers and their lawyers sowing the seeds for Roman society to suffocate under its own lethargic weight. Lawyers were indeed a problem to Rome. The Romans were so concerned by lawyers' opprobrious effect on public morale that they attempted to curb their influence. In 204 BC, the Roman Senate passed a law prohibiting lawyers from plying their trade for money. As the Roman republic declined and became more democratic, it became increasingly difficult to keep lawyers in check and prevent them from accepting fees under the table. Indeed, they were very useful to the moneychangers. The lawyers fed upon corruption and accelerated the downward plunge of Roman civilization. Some wealthy Romans began sending their sons to Greece to finish their schooling, to learn rhetoric (Julius Caesar was one example) -- a lawyer's cleverness in oration. This compounded Rome's growing woes.
[...]
The moneychangers destroyed Rome from within by first monopolizing usury, monopolizing the precious mineral trade and then disproportionately magnifying the temporal businesses of prostitution (including pedophilia and homosexuality), and slavery. Constantine (306-337 AD) was the first Roman emperor to issue laws, which radically limited the rights of Jews as citizens of the Roman Empire, a privilege conferred upon them by Caracalla in 212 AD. The laws of Constantius (337-361 AD) recognized the Jewish domination of the slave trade and acted to greatly curtail it. A law of Theodosius II (408-410 AD), prohibited Jews from holding any advantageous office of honor in the Roman state. Always the impetus was buying influence concerning their trade.
[...]
Usury has been the opiate that has ruined the ingenuity of many of its civilizations. As this Jewish craft spread, the people increasingly suffered from the burdens of indebtedness. So troubling was the effects of usury that Lex Genucia outlawed usury in 342 BC. Nevertheless, ways of evading such legislation were found and by the last period of the Republic, usury was once again rife. Emperors like Julius Caesar and Justinian tried to limit the interest rate and control its devastating effects (Birnie, 1958). Entertainment was a way to temporarily set aside the burdens of indebtedness. It was a way to festively indulge in all the glory that Rome had to offer. Rome soon became drunk on hedonism. Collectively, entertainment helped disguise the collapsing of a great power. Spectator blood sports, brothels, carnivals, festivals, and parties substituted for everything that was wrong with Rome.
[...]
Rome became a multi-cultural state much like our own in the United States. Indeed, it was truly an international city. Foreigners of every nation resided and worked there. The Romans soon intermarried and had children with the many foreigners. This included concubines from the numerous slaves won through war. Rome had an extraordinary large slave population and was estimated to make up about two-thirds of its population at one time.
[...]
Eventually, the Romans lost their tribal cohesion and identity. The population of Rome had changed and so did its character. Increasing demands were made of the ruling patricians. The aristocrats tried to appease the masses, but eventually those demands could not be sustained. Rome had become bankrupt. The effects of usury polarized the patrician class against an increasingly dispossessed and burdened class of citizens.
[...]
Rome was bankrupt and was collapsing. The parasitic nature of usury and its effect on government was too complex for the uneducated plebeians to understand (see Addendum for an illustration of usury's power). Indeed, it was the moneychangers with the use of their lawyers that destroyed pagan Rome. The Jewish interests did not control all usury. However, they were a people well recognized as being extremely loyal to each other and adept in the black craft of usury. To all others (gentiles) they showed hate and enmity. Throughout history the weapon of usury is used again and again to destroy nations.
[...]
Fortunately, the writings of Cicero survived the burning of libraries. In the case against Faccus, we can see the crafts of the Jews are the same today. The Jews clearly held great influence in politics as a result of their professions and profited immensely at the expense of Rome. We can further deduce by the case of Faccus that the Jews were not concerned with the interests of Rome, but rather for their own interests. The Jewish gold was being shipped from Rome and its provinces throughout the empire to Jerusalem. Why? We also know that the Jews had utter contempt and hatred of the Romans. This contempt is demonstrated by their breaking of Roman law, which Faccus tried to uphold. If we look closer, we see that gold has a very special meaning to all Jewry unlike any other people.
[...]
There are enough records for us to piece together what actually occurred in Rome that led to its downfall. Rome fell as a result of corruption and the lack of cohesion of its own people. But, it was the instrument of usury that brought about this corruption and allowed its gold and silver to be controlled by Jewish interests.
[...]
It was Christianity that put an end to the destructive nature of usury on its people (see addendum for usury example). Rome's treasury became barren as a result of the moneychangers. It weakened the Roman Empire immeasurably, and thrust untold millions in poverty, debt, and in prison. It was Christianity that halted the influence of the Jews and their destructive trades and practices. And, the Christian faith spread throughout the former Roman Empire. All of the European people eventually became Christianity's vanguard and champion. Without the strict adherence to the moral ethos, any civilization will devolve into the religion of Nimrod.

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/v1/index274.htm

[Oct 25, 2018] Should we trust MMT?

Oct 25, 2018 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

Tvc15 , October 23, 2018 at 2:34 pm

I apologize in advance to Lambert for adding this link to his terrific daily water cooler topics, but since Yves and NC were specifically mentioned I thought it would be interesting to share. The video is titled, "Should we trust MMT?" with Joe Bongiovanni. It is 48 minutes long and I only made it about 20 minutes after becoming too annoyed. Yves/NC are mentioned at 18 minutes and 40 seconds in. Joe says he was part of the NC commentariat for years, but was banned due to his thoughts that MMT proponents are misleading and don't "tell the real truth".

https://youtu.be/jvunhn47F20

Tvc15 , October 23, 2018 at 3:31 pm

Not being an economist or comfortable enough with my understanding of MMT to know if what he was saying had merit. Plus the style and lack of preparation from the interviewer other than wanting her expert to debunk MMT for her right wing followers.

JohnnyGL , October 23, 2018 at 6:45 pm

I'm 30 min in .skip ahead to that point to get to the meat of his discussion.

He keeps repeating that he wants monetary "reform", so that the money system 'works for the people'. But he doesn't say what that change is or why MMT gets it wrong in its understanding of how the system works.

He says "govt doesn't create money by spending". Except, yes, it does. It then chooses to offset that spending later with bond auctions.

He doesn't make a distinction between public and private debt, doesn't distinguish between currency users and issuers. No distinction between stocks and flows. No discussion of capacity constraints, inflation.

He actually fear-mongers about the debt around the 38-39 min mark. Says there's going to be tough times when we get austerity (in addition to environment collapsing).

He talks a lot about how 'the monetary system works', but it's clear to me he doesn't get how the banking system works. I don't think you can understand one without the other very well.

MMT can offer a clear explanation of why:

1) 30 yr treasury bond yields fell rapidly in the 1980s while deficits were exploding.
2) 30 yr treasury bond yields rose in 2000, hitting 7% on the 30 yr at one point, when the government was running surpluses.
3) Japan has a functional currency and economy with massive debts and deficits for many years.

Conventional economics has NO explanation for the above phenomenon.

ChristopherJ , October 23, 2018 at 7:33 pm

Cheers Johnny – he's been here before and took umbrage to the NC crew saying that taxation for revenue is obsolete. Don't make me go there.

Said NC doesn't like criticism and Yves had banned him I'd be banned too if I thought that!!

Got some trolls on Youtube worked up. I'll go and finish them off after I do a little more digging on Joe and his Kettle Pond Institute for Debt Free Money.

He had a go at Bill Mitchell on this post recently:

http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=39889

IMO, Tvc, if you want some relevant stuff, look at how Jimmy Dore (a comedian turned activist) gets his head around MMT – Stephanie Kelton was good and has been linked here and also Chris Hedges

People like JD are very influential and I can see a heightened awareness out there that we are not going to get anywhere now by being polite and civil.

That's how we got here in the first place

Plenue , October 23, 2018 at 8:18 pm

"he's been here before and took umbrage to the NC crew saying that taxation for revenue is obsolete."

It's not just obsolete as in "we don't need to do this anymore". Instead it literally doesn't happen at the federal level.

Yves Smith , October 23, 2018 at 9:36 pm

I don't remember the details, but he was banned for behavior. The problem that so often happens is that the people on losing sides of arguments here (as in not just the moderators but the commentariat does a good job of debunking their claims) is they don't give up and start going into various forms of bad faith argumentation: broken record, straw manning, or just plain getting abusive. Then they try to claim they were banned due to their position, as opposed to how they started carrying on when they couldn't make their case.

ChrisAtRU , October 23, 2018 at 7:19 pm

Joe B. is part of AMI (American Monetary Institute). This installment from NEP should sort you out.

#MMT v #AMI/#PositiveMoney

Yves Smith , October 23, 2018 at 9:43 pm

The AMI people are a real problem, and the worst is that they use enough lingo that sounds MMT-like that they confuse people about MMT. They are also presumptuous as hell. I was part of an Occupy Wall Street group, Alternative Banking. Every week, a group came and kept trying to hijack the discussion to be about Positive Money. They got air time because that's Occupy but everyone else regarded them as an annoyance.

One Sunday, the president of AMI showed up in a suit, uninvited, and expected to be able to take over the group and lecture. The rules were everyone on stack got only 2 or 3 minutes each (I forget how long) and then had to cede the floor. Since everyone else was too polite, I was the one who had to shut him up by blowing up at him and telling him he was totally out of line and had no business abusing the group's rules. That is the only time in my WASPy life I have carried on like that in a public setting. Broke up the meeting, which reconvened only after he left.

ChrisAtRU , October 24, 2018 at 12:22 pm

#Yikes I learned early on to avoid the #PositiveMoney trap, and this anecdote should convince others of the same.

skippy , October 24, 2018 at 12:41 am

All part of the broader sound money camp, not unlike Mr. Volcker's recent NYT piece.

[Oct 09, 2018] The Continuing Dominance of the Dollar by Josepth Joyce

Notable quotes:
"... Financial Times ..."
"... Global Financial Stability ..."
Oct 09, 2018 | angrybearblog.com

Why does the dollar continue to possess a hegemonic status a decade after the crisis that seemed to signal an end to U.S.-U.K. dominated finance? Gillian Tett of the Financial Times offers several reasons. The first is the global reach of U.S. based banks. U.S. banks are seen as stable, particularly when compared to European banks. Any listing of the largest international banks will be dominated by Chinese banks, and these institutions have expanded their international business . But the Chinese banks will conduct business in dollars when necessary. Tett's second reason is the relative strength of the U.S. economy, which grew at a 4.1% pace in the second quarter. The third reason is the liquidity and credibility of U.S. financial markets, which are superior to those of any rivals.

The U.S. benefits from its financial dominance in several ways. Jeff Sachs of Columbia University points out that the cost of financing government deficits is lower due to the acceptance of U.S. Treasury securities as "riskless assets." U.S. banks and other institutions earn profits on their foreign operations. In addition, the use of our banking network for international transactions provides the U.S. government with a powerful foreign policy tool in the form of sanctions that exclude foreign individuals, firms or governments from this network .

There are risks to the system with this dependence. As U.S. interest rates continue to rise, loans that seemed reasonable before now become harder to finance. The burden of dollar-denominated debt also increases as the dollar appreciates. These developments exacerbate the repercussions of policy mistakes in Argentina and Turkey, but also affect other countries as well.

The IMF in its latest Global Financial Stability (see also here ) identifies another potential destabilizing feature of the current system. The IMF reports that the U.S. dollar balance sheets of non-U.S. banks show a reliance on short-term or wholesale funding. This reliance leaves the banks vulnerable to a liquidity freeze. The IMF is particularly concerned about the use of foreign exchange swaps, as swap markets can be quite volatile. While central banks have stablished their own network of swap lines , these have been criticized .

The status of the dollar as the primary international currency is not welcomed by foreign governments. The Russian government, for example, is seeking to use other currencies for its international commerce. China and Turkey have offered some support, but China is invested in promoting the use of its own currency. In addition, Russia's dependence on its oil exports will keep it tied to the dollar.

But interest in formulating a new international payments system has now spread outside of Russia and China. Germany's Foreign Minister Heiko Maas has called for the establishment of "U.S. independent payment channels" that would allow European firms to continue to deal with Iran despite the U.S. sanctions on that country. Chinese electronic payments systems are being used in Europe and the U.S. The dollar may not be replaced, but it may have to share its role as an international currency with other forms of payment if foreign nations calculate that the benefits of a new system outweigh its cost. Until now that calculation has always favored the dollar, but the reassessment of globalization initiated by the Trump administration may have lead to unexpected consequences.

[Oct 08, 2018] The city of Los Angeles has on its ballot for the November elections a measure to create a city-owned bank.

Oct 08, 2018 | www.moonofalabama.org

Grieved , Oct 7, 2018 4:13:53 PM | link

Our commenter psychohistorian and others interested in public banking, and the concept of money as a public utility rather than a private (and profit-gouging) instrument, may want to watch the latest Keiser Report, which has an interview with Ellen Brown.

Brown relates that the city of Los Angeles has on its ballot for the November elections a measure to create a city-owned bank. This was put on the ballot by the city council itself, prompted by a groundswell of support coming from constituents.

The rapid-fire interview doesn't go deeply into the politics behind this citizen initiative, but it seems like a happy story of young millennials looking for an alternative to Wall Street banks, and learning from Brown and others about the strong value of the public bank.

An interesting turn of events. The interview starts in the second half of the show at 14:40:

Episode 1289 Keiser Report

[Oct 02, 2018] Randy Wray Modern Monetary Theory How I Came to MMT and What I Include in MMT naked capitalism

Notable quotes:
"... By L. Randall Wray, Professor of Economics at Bard College. Originally published at New Economic Perspectives ..."
"... Treatise on Money ..."
"... State Theory of Money ..."
"... Money and Credit in Capitalist Economies ..."
"... Understanding Modern Money ..."
"... Modern Money Theory ..."
"... Payback: Debt and the shadow side of wealth ..."
"... Reclaiming the State ..."
"... Austerity: The History of a Dangerous Idea ..."
"... permanent Zirp (zero interest rate policy) is probably a better policy since it reduces the compounding of debt and the tendency for the rentier class to take over more of the economy. ..."
"... that one of the consequences of the protracted super-low interest rate regime of the post crisis era was to create a world of hurt for savers, particularly long-term savers like pension funds, life insurers and retirees. ..."
"... income inequality ..."
"... even after paying interest ..."
"... It seems to me that the US macroeconomic policy has been operating under MMT at least since FDR (see for example Beardsley Ruml from 1945). ..."
"... After learning MMT I've occasionally thought I should get a refund for the two economics degree's I originally received. ..."
"... See: https://mythfighter.com/2018/08/27/ten-answers-that-are-contrary-to-popular-wisdom/ ..."
"... There is no avoiding bad government. ..."
"... "Taxes or other obligations (fees, fines, tribute, tithes) drive the currency." ..."
"... "JG is a critical component of MMT. It anchors the currency and ensures that achieving full employment will enhance both price and financial stability." ..."
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Randy Wray: Modern Monetary Theory – How I Came to MMT and What I Include in MMT Posted on October 2, 2018 by Yves Smith By L. Randall Wray, Professor of Economics at Bard College. Originally published at New Economic Perspectives

I was asked to give a short presentation at the MMT conference. What follows is the text version of my remarks, some of which I had to skip over in the interests of time. Many readers might want to skip to the bullet points near the end, which summarize what I include in MMT.

I'd also like to quickly respond to some comments that were made at the very last session of the conference -- having to do with "approachability" of the "original" creators of MMT. Like Bill Mitchell, I am uncomfortable with any discussion of "rockstars" or "heroes". I find this quite embarrassing. As Bill said, we're just doing our job. We are happy (or, more accurately pleasantly surprised) that so many people have found our work interesting and useful. I'm happy (even if uncomfortable) to sign books and to answer questions at such events. I don't mind emailed questions, however please understand that I receive hundreds of emails every day, and the vast majority of the questions I get have been answered hundreds, thousands, even tens of thousands of times by the developers of MMT. A quick reading of my Primer or search of NEP (and Bill's blog and Warren's blogs) will reveal answers to most questions. So please do some homework first. I receive a lot of "questions" that are really just a thinly disguised pretense to argue with MMT -- I don't have much patience with those. Almost every day I also receive a 2000+ word email laying out the writer's original thesis on how the economy works and asking me to defend MMT against that alternative vision. I am not going to engage in a debate via email. If you have an alternative, gather together a small group and work for 25 years to produce scholarly articles, popular blogs, and media attention -- as we have done for MMT -- and then I'll pay attention. That said, here you go: [email protected] .

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As an undergraduate I studied psychology and social sciences -- but no economics, which probably gave me an advantage when I finally did come to economics. I began my economics career in my late 20's studying mostly Institutionalist and Marxist approaches while working for the local government in Sacramento. However, I did carefully read Keynes's General Theory at Sacramento State and one of my professors -- John Henry -- pushed me to go to St. Louis to study with Hyman Minsky, the greatest Post Keynesian economist.

I wrote my dissertation in Bologna under Minsky's direction, focusing on private banking and the rise of what we called "nonbank banks" and "off-balance sheet operations" (now called shadow banking). While in Bologna, I met Otto Steiger -- who had an alternative to the barter story of money that was based on his theory of property. I found it intriguing because it was consistent with some of Keynes's Treatise on Money that I was reading at the time. Also, I had found Knapp's State Theory of Money -- cited in both Steiger and Keynes–so I speculated on money's origins (in spite of Minsky's warning that he didn't want me to write Genesis ) and the role of the state in my dissertation that became a book in 1990 -- Money and Credit in Capitalist Economies -- that helped to develop the Post Keynesian endogenous money approach.

What was lacking in that literature was an adequate treatment of the role of the state–which played a passive role -- supplying reserves as demanded by private bankers -- that is the Post Keynesian accommodationist or Horzontalist approach. There was no discussion of the relation of money to fiscal policy at that time. As I continued to read about the history of money, I became more convinced that we need to put the state at the center. Fortunately I ran into two people that helped me to see how to do it.

First there was Warren Mosler, who I met online in the PKT discussion group; he insisted on viewing money as a tax-driven government monopoly. Second, I met Michael Hudson at a seminar at the Levy Institute, who provided the key to help unlock what Keynes had called his "Babylonian Madness" period -- when he was driven crazy trying to understand early money. Hudson argued that money was an invention of the authorities used for accounting purposes. So over the next decade I worked with a handful of people to put the state into monetary theory.

As we all know, the mainstream wants a small government, with a central bank that follows a rule (initially, a money growth rate but now some version of inflation targeting). The fiscal branch of government is treated like a household that faces a budget constraint. But this conflicts with Institutionalist theory as well as Keynes's own theory. As the great Institutionalist Fagg Foster -- who preceded me at the University of Denver–put it: whatever is technically feasible is financially feasible. How can we square that with the belief that sovereign government is financially constrained? And if private banks can create money endogenously -- without limit -- why is government constrained?

My second book, in 1998, provided a different view of sovereign spending. I also revisited the origins of money. By this time I had discovered the two best articles ever written on the nature of money -- by Mitchell Innes. Like Warren, Innes insisted that the dollar's value is derived from the tax that drives it. And he argued this has always been the case. This was also consistent with what Keynes claimed in the Treatise, where he said that money has been a state money for the past four thousand years, at least. I called this "modern money" with intentional irony -- and titled my 1998 book Understanding Modern Money as an inside joke. It only applies to the past 4000 years.

Surprisingly, this work was more controversial than the earlier endogenous money research. In my view it was a natural extension -- or more correctly, it was the prerequisite to a study of privately created money. You need the state's money before you can have private money. Eventually our work found acceptance outside economics -- especially in law schools, among historians, and with anthropologists.

For the most part, our fellow economists, including the heterodox ones, attacked us as crazy.

I benefited greatly by participating in law school seminars (in Tel Aviv, Cambridge, and Harvard) on the legal history of money -- that is where I met Chris Desan and later Farley Grubb, and eventually Rohan Grey. Those who knew the legal history of money had no problem in adopting MMT view -- unlike economists.

I remember one of the Harvard seminars when a prominent Post Keynesian monetary theorist tried to argue against the taxes drive money view. He said he never thinks about taxes when he accepts money -- he accepts currency because he believes he can fob it off on Buffy Sue. The audience full of legal historians broke out in an explosion of laughter -- yelling "it's the taxes, stupid". All he could do in response was to mumble that he might have to think more about it.

Another prominent Post Keynesian claimed we had two things wrong. First, government debt isn't special -- debt is debt. Second, he argued we don't need double entry book-keeping -- his model has only single entry book-keeping. Years later he agreed that private debt is more dangerous than sovereign debt, and he's finally learned double-entry accounting. But of course whenever you are accounting for money you have to use quadruple entry book-keeping. Maybe in another dozen years he'll figure that out.

As a student I had read a lot of anthropology -- as most Institutionalists do. So I knew that money could not have come out of tribal economies based on barter exchange. As you all know, David Graeber's book insisted that anthropologists have never found any evidence of barter-based markets. Money preceded market exchange.

Studying history also confirmed our story, but you have to carefully read between the lines. Most historians adopt monetarism because the only economics they know is Friedman–who claims that money causes inflation. Almost all of them also adopt a commodity money view -- gold was good money and fiat paper money causes inflation. If you ignore those biases, you can learn a lot about the nature of money from historians.

Farley Grubb -- the foremost authority on Colonial currency -- proved that the American colonists understood perfectly well that taxes drive money. Every Act that authorized the issue of paper money imposed a Redemption Tax. The colonies burned all their tax revenue. Again, history shows that this has always been true. All money must be redeemed -- that is, accepted by its issuer in payment. As Innes said, that is the fundamental nature of credit. It is written right there in the early acts by the American colonies. Even a gold coin is the issuer's IOU, redeemed in payment of taxes. Once you understand that, you understand the nature of money.

So we were winning the academic debates, across a variety of disciplines. But we had a hard time making progress in economics or in policy circles. Bill, Warren, Mat Forstater and I used to meet up every year or so to count the number of economists who understood what we were talking about. It took over decade before we got up to a dozen. I can remember telling Pavlina Tcherneva back around 2005 that I was about ready to give it up.

But in 2007, Warren, Bill and I met to discuss writing an MMT textbook. Bill and I knew the odds were against us -- it would be for a small market, consisting mostly of our former students. Still, we decided to go for it. Here we are -- another dozen years later -- and the textbook is going to be published. MMT is everywhere. It was even featured in a New Yorker crossword puzzle in August. You cannot get more mainstream than that.

We originally titled our textbook Modern Money Theory , but recently decided to just call it Macroeconomics . There's no need to modify that with a subtitle. What we do is Macroeconomics. There is no coherent alternative to MMT.

A couple of years ago Charles Goodhart told me: "You won. Declare victory but be magnanimous about it." After so many years of fighting, both of those are hard to do. We won. Be nice.

Let me finish with 10 bullet points of what I include in MMT:

1. What is money: An IOU denominated in a socially sanctioned money of account. In almost all known cases, it is the authority -- the state -- that chooses the money of account. This comes from Knapp, Innes, Keynes, Geoff Ingham, and Minsky.

2. Taxes or other obligations (fees, fines, tribute, tithes) drive the currency. The ability to impose such obligations is an important aspect of sovereignty; today states alone monopolize this power. This comes from Knapp, Innes, Minsky, and Mosler.

3. Anyone can issue money; the problem is to get it accepted. Anyone can write an IOU denominated in the recognized money of account; but acceptance can be hard to get unless you have the state backing you up. This is Minsky.

4. The word "redemption" is used in two ways -- accepting your own IOUs in payment and promising to convert your IOUs to something else (such as gold, foreign currency, or the state's IOUs).

The first is fundamental and true of all IOUs. All our gold bugs mistakenly focus on the second meaning -- which does not apply to the currencies issued by most modern nations, and indeed does not apply to most of the currencies issued throughout history. This comes from Innes and Knapp, and is reinforced by Hudson's and Grubb's work, as well as by Margaret Atwood's great book: Payback: Debt and the shadow side of wealth .

5. Sovereign debt is different. There is no chance of involuntary default so long as the state only promises to accept its currency in payment. It could voluntarily repudiate its debt, but this is rare and has not been done by any modern sovereign nation.

6. Functional Finance: finance should be "functional" (to achieve the public purpose), not "sound" (to achieve some arbitrary "balance" between spending and revenues). Most importantly, monetary and fiscal policy should be formulated to achieve full employment with price stability. This is credited to Abba Lerner, who was introduced into MMT by Mat Forstater.

In its original formulation it is too simplistic, summarized as two principles: increase government spending (or reduce taxes) and increase the money supply if there is unemployment (do the reverse if there is inflation). The first of these is fiscal policy and the second is monetary policy. A steering wheel metaphor is often invoked, using policy to keep the economy on course. A modern economy is far too complex to steer as if you were driving a car. If unemployment exists it is not enough to say that you can just reduce the interest rate, raise government spending, or reduce taxes. The first might even increase unemployment. The second two could cause unacceptable inflation, increase inequality, or induce financial instability long before they solved the unemployment problem. I agree that government can always afford to spend more. But the spending has to be carefully targeted to achieve the desired result. I'd credit all my Institutionalist influences for that, including Minsky.

7. For that reason, the JG is a critical component of MMT. It anchors the currency and ensures that achieving full employment will enhance both price and financial stability. This comes from Minsky's earliest work on the ELR, from Bill Mitchell's work on bufferstocks and Warren Mosler's work on monopoly price setting.

8. And also for that reason, we need Minsky's analysis of financial instability. Here I don't really mean the financial instability hypothesis. I mean his whole body of work and especially the research line that began with his dissertation written under Schumpeter up through his work on Money Manager Capitalism at the Levy Institute before he died.

9. The government's debt is our financial asset. This follows from the sectoral balances approach of Wynne Godley. We have to get our macro accounting correct. Minsky always used to tell students: go home and do the balances sheets because what you are saying is nonsense. Fortunately, I had learned T-accounts from John Ranlett in Sacramento (who also taught Stephanie Kelton from his own, great, money and banking textbook -- it is all there, including the impact of budget deficits on bank reserves). Godley taught us about stock-flow consistency and he insisted that all mainstream macroeconomics is incoherent.

10. Rejection of the typical view of the central bank as independent and potent. Monetary policy is weak and its impact is at best uncertain -- it might even be mistaking the brake pedal for the gas pedal. The central bank is the government's bank so can never be independent. Its main independence is limited to setting the overnight rate target, and it is probably a mistake to let it do even that. Permanent Zirp (zero interest rate policy) is probably a better policy since it reduces the compounding of debt and the tendency for the rentier class to take over more of the economy. I credit Keynes, Minsky, Hudson, Mosler, Eric Tymoigne, and Scott Fullwiler for much of the work on this.

That is my short list of what MMT ought to include. Some of these traditions have a very long history in economics. Some were long lost until we brought them back into discussion. We've integrated them into a coherent approach to Macro. In my view, none of these can be dropped if you want a macroeconomics that is applicable to the modern economy. There are many other issues that can be (often are) included, most importantly environmental concerns and inequality, gender and race/ethnicity. I have no problem with that.

Hilary Barnes , October 2, 2018 at 3:01 am

Out of my depth: "7. For that reason, the JG is a critical component of MMT." The JG?

BillC , October 2, 2018 at 3:07 am

Job guarantee (especially as distinguished from a basic income guarantee). See here for fairly recent coverage by Lambert.

Epistrophy , October 2, 2018 at 6:16 am

I had exactly the same question. Thank you.

skippy , October 2, 2018 at 7:04 am

A JG is to discontinue NAIRU or structural under-unemployment with attendant monetarist/quasi inflation views. Something MMT has be at pains to point out wrt fighting a nonexistent occurrence due to extended deflationary period.

dcrane , October 2, 2018 at 5:31 am

The paragraph on "double entry book-keeping" is also a bit too inside-baseball. Otherwise I enjoyed the essay.

PlutoniumKun , October 2, 2018 at 6:11 am

Yup, he lost me on quadruple entry book-keeping, thats the first time I ever heard of that concept.

Quanka , October 2, 2018 at 8:02 am

Its double entry accounting counting both sides of the equation. Fed deposits money into bank requires 4 entries, a double entry for the Fed and for the bank. Typical double entry accounting only looks at the books of 1 entity at a time. Quadruple Entry accounting makes the connection between the government monetary policy and private business accounting. I'm not an accountant, I may have butchered that.

todde , October 2, 2018 at 12:15 pm

that's pretty much it

Peter Pan , October 2, 2018 at 1:37 pm

Does Steve Keen's "Minsky" program utilize quadruple-entry bookkeeping?

Todde , October 2, 2018 at 1:47 pm

Double entry

Grebo , October 2, 2018 at 3:12 pm

Yes it does. Double entry for each party to the transaction.

todde , October 2, 2018 at 3:29 pm

you are right – it does give each parties transactions.

horostam , October 2, 2018 at 8:43 am

think about banks and reserves, your money is on the bank's liability side (and your asset), while the reserves are on the bank's asset side (and gov't or fed's liability.)

i think its the reserves that quadruple it, reserves are confusing because when you move $5 from a bank account to buy ice cream its not just one copy of the $5 that moves between checking accounts, there is another $5 that moves "under the hood" so to speak in reserve world

HotFlash , October 2, 2018 at 12:10 pm

Very briefly, double entry bookkeeping keeps track of how money comes in/out, and where it came from/went. Cash is the determining item (although there may be a few removes). Hence, say I buy a $20 dollar manicure from you. I record my purchase as "Debit (increase) expense: manicure $20, credit (decrease) cash, $20". Bonus! If my bookkeeping is correct, my debits and credits are equal and if I add them up (credits are minus and debits are plus) the total is zero – my books "balance". So, double-entry bookkeeping is also a hash-total check on my accounting accuracy. But I digress.

On your books, the entry would be "Debit (increase) cash $20, credit (decrease) sales, $20".

So, your double-entry book plus my double-entry books would be quadruple-entry accounting.

JCC , October 2, 2018 at 9:40 am

#7 was my immediate stopper, too. It drives me nuts when people introduce 2-3-4 letter acronyms with no explanation (I work for the DoD and I'm surrounded by these "code words". I rarely know what people are talking about and when I ask, the people talking rarely know what these TLAs – T hree L etter A cronyms – stand for either!).

Next question regarding #7: What is ELR?

Other than #7, I really appreciate this article. NC teaches and/or clarifies on a daily basis.

Mel , October 2, 2018 at 10:11 am

Employer of Last Resort? (Wikipedia)

Matthew Platte , October 2, 2018 at 11:29 am

DoD?

JCC , October 2, 2018 at 2:45 pm

Guilty as charged :-)

For non-US readers, DoD is D epartment o f D efense, the undisputed-by-many home of TLAs.

lyman alpha blob , October 2, 2018 at 3:10 pm

Ha! I really love this blog.

somecallmetim , October 2, 2018 at 12:51 pm

NC?

;)

Bill C , October 2, 2018 at 3:02 am

Thank you for this post!

This quick, entertaining read is IMHO nothing less than a "Rosetta Stone" that can bring non-specialists to understand MMT: not just how , but why it differs from now-conventional neoliberal economics. I hope it finds a wide readership and that its many references to MMT's antecedents inspire serious study by the unconvinced (and I hope they don't take Wray's invitation to skip the 10 bullet points).

This piece is a fine demonstration of why I've missed Wray as he seemed to withdraw from public discourse for the last few years.

HotFlash , October 2, 2018 at 12:14 pm

No no! He said "Many readers might want to skip to the bullet points near the end, which summarize what I include in MMT."

el_tel , October 2, 2018 at 4:55 am

Thank you! The (broad) analogies with my own experience are there. I had a decidedly "mainstream" macro education at Cambridge (UK); though many of the "old school" professors/college Fellows who, although not MMT people as we'd currently understand (or weren't at *that* stage – Godley lectured a module I took but this was in the early 1990s) were still around, in hindsight the "university syllabus" (i.e. what you needed to regurgitate to pass exams) had already steered towards neoliberalism. I never really understood why I never "got" macro and it was consistently my weakest subject.

It was later, having worked in the City of London, learned accountancy in my actuarial training, and then most crucially starting reading blogs from people who went on to become MMT leading lights, that I realised the problem wasn't ME, it was the subject matter. So I had to painfully unlearn much of what I was taught and begin the difficult process of getting my head around a profoundly different paradigm. I still hesitate to argue the MMT case to friends, since I don't usually have to hand the "quick snappy one liners" that would torpedo their old discredited understanding.

I'm still profoundly grateful for the "old school" Cambridge College Fellows who were obviously being sidelined by the University and who taught me stuff like the Marxist/Lerner critiques, British economic history, political economy of the system etc. Indeed whilst I had "official" tutorials with a finance guy who practically came whenever Black-Scholes etc was being discussed, an old schooler was simultaneously predicting that it would blow the world economy up at some point (and of course he was in the main , correct). I still had to fill in some gaps in my knowledge (anthropology was not a module, though Marxist economics was), with hindsight I appreciate so much more of what the "old schoolers" said on the sly during quiet points in tutorials – Godley being one, although he wasn't ready at that time to release the work he subsequently published and was so revolutionary. Having peers educated elsewhere during my Masters and PhD who knew nothing of the subjects that – whilst certainly not the "key guide" to "proper macro" described in the article – began to horrify me later in my career.

skippy , October 2, 2018 at 5:07 am

Thanks for your efforts Mr Wray, your provide a rich resource to familiarize most and in some cases refute doctrinaire attitudes. Kudos.

BTW completely agree with the perspective against PR marketing of the topic or individuals wrt MMT or PK.

Lambert Strether , October 2, 2018 at 5:23 am

This is really great. Thanks a ton, as Yves would say.

I know I have used to "rock star" metaphor on occasion, so let me explain that to me what is important in excellent (i.e., live) rock and roll is improvisational interplay among the group members -- the dozen or so who understood MMT in the beginning, in this case -- who know the tune, know each other, and yet manage to make the song a little different each time. It's really spectacular to see in action. Nothing to do with spotlights, or celebrity worship, or fandom!

DavidEG , October 2, 2018 at 5:54 am

I'm no MMT expert, but I think this article does a good job of juxtaposing MMT with classic (non-advanced) macroeconomics. I quote:

In the language of Tinbergen (1952), the debate between MMT and mainstream macro can be thought of as a debate over which instrument should be assigned to which target. The consensus assignment is that the interest rate, under the control of an independent central bank, should be assigned to the output gap target, while the fiscal position, under control of the elected budget authorities, should be assigned to the debt sustainability target. [ ] The functional finance assignment is the reverse -- the fiscal balance under the budget authorities is assigned to the output target, while any concerns about debt sustainability are the responsibility of the monetary authority.

What about interest rate fixing? The central bank would remain in charge of that, but in an MMT context this instrument would lose most of its relevance:

[W]hile a simple swapping of instruments and targets is one way to think about functional finance, this does not describe the usual MMT view of how the policy interest rate should be set. What is generally called for, rather, is that the interest rate be permanently kept at a very low level, perhaps zero. In an orthodox policy framework, of course, this would create the risk of runaway inflation; but keep in mind that in the functional framework, the fiscal balance is set to whatever level is consistent with price stability.

It may be a partial reconstruction of MMT, but to me this seems to be a neat way to present MMT to most people. Saying that taxes are there just to remove money from the economy or to provide incentives is a rather extreme statement that is bound to elicit some fierce opposition.

Having said that, I've never seen anyone address what I think are two issues to MMT: how to make sure that the power to create money is not exploited by a political body in order to achieve consensus, and how to assure that the idea of unlimited monetary resources do not lead to misallocation and inefficiencies (the bloated, awash-with-money US military industry would probably be a good example).

larry , October 2, 2018 at 6:14 am

The best comparison of MMT with neoliberal neoclassical economics, in my view, is Bill Mitchell's blog post, "How to Discuss Modern Monetary Theory" ( http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=25961 ). I especially recommend the table near the end as a terrific summary of the differences between the mainstream narrative and MMT.

el_tel , October 2, 2018 at 8:53 am

Thanks! I have enormous respect for Mitchell, given the quantity and quality of his blogging. However, my only nitpick is that a lot of his blog entries are quite long and "not easily digestible". I have long thought that one of those clever people who can do those 3 minute rapid animation vids we see on youtube is needed to "do a Lakoff" and change the metaphors/language. But this post of Mitchell (which I missed, since I don't read all his stuff) is, IMHO, his best at "re-orienting us".

kgw , October 2, 2018 at 11:15 am

I get this "http's server IP address could not be found." I'll try, gasp, googling it

el_tel , October 2, 2018 at 11:24 am

FWIW I mucked around with the link in Firefox (although I typically use Opera, which gave me that same error) and could read it.

Epistrophy , October 2, 2018 at 6:34 am

Saying that taxes are there just to remove money from the economy or to provide incentives is a rather extreme statement that is bound to elicit some fierce opposition.

Yes this is a frightening statement. The power to tax is the power to destroy. If this is a foundation point of the proposal then

Having said that, I've never seen anyone address what I think are two issues to MMT: how to make sure that the power to create money is not exploited by a political body in order to achieve consensus, and how to assure that the idea of unlimited monetary resources do not lead to misallocation and inefficiencies (the bloated, awash-with-money US military industry would probably be a good example).

Bingo. My thoughts exactly. Too much power in the hands of the few. Easy to slide into Orwell's Animal Farm – where some people are more equal than others.

MMT is based upon very good intentions but, in my view, there is a moral rot at the root of the US of A's problems, not sure this can be solved by monetary policy and more centralized control.

And the JG? Once the government starts to permanently guarantee jobs

skippy , October 2, 2018 at 7:12 am

I suggest you delve into what is proposed by the MMT – PK camp wrt a JG because its not centralized in the manner you suggest. It would be more regional and hopefully administrated via social democratic means e.g. the totalitarian aspect is moot.

I think its incumbent on commenters to do at least a cursory examination before heading off on some deductive rationalizations, which might have undertones of some book they read e.g. environmental bias.

Epistrophy , October 2, 2018 at 7:38 am

Skippy, I read the article, plus the links, including those links of the comments. I will admit that I am a little more right of center in my views than many on the website.

The idea is interesting, but the administration of such a system would require rewriting the US Constitution, or an Amendment to it if one thinks the process through, would it not? I think of the Amendment required to create the Federal Reserve System when I say this.

skippy , October 2, 2018 at 7:45 am

I think WWII is instructive here.

Clive , October 2, 2018 at 7:58 am

One thing I really don't like at all -- and I've crossed swords with many over this -- is that we do tend to take (not just in the US, this is prevalent in far too many places) things like the constitution, or cultural norms, or traditions or other variants of "that's the way we've always done this" and elevate them to a level of sacrosanctity.

Not for one moment am I suggesting that we should ever rush into tweaking such devices lightly nor without a great deal of analysis and introspective consultations.

Constitutions get amended all the time. The Republic of Ireland changed its to renounce a territorial claim on Northern Ireland. The U.K. created a right for Scotland to secede from the Union. There's even a country in Europe voting whether to formally change its name right now. Britain "gave up" its empire territories (not, I would add speedily, without a lot of prodding, but still, we got there in the end). All of which were, at one time or another, "unthinkable". Even the US, perhaps the most inherently resistant to change country when it thinks it's being "forced" to do so, begrudgingly acknowledged Cuba.

If something is necessary, it should be done.

vlade , October 2, 2018 at 8:06 am

Human laws (any and all, for simplicity I include culture, customs etc.. here) are not laws of nature.

They change over time to survive. The easy way, or the hard way.

Or they don't survive at all, that's an option too.

witters , October 2, 2018 at 9:09 am

"Human laws (any and all, for simplicity I include culture, customs etc.. here) are not laws of nature."

Wave Function Collapse?

voteforno6 , October 2, 2018 at 8:14 am

Why would a jobs guarantee require a constitutional amendment? The federal government creates jobs all the time, with certain defined benefits. This would merely expand upon that, to potentially include anyone who wants a job.

Epistrophy , October 2, 2018 at 8:26 am

I was thinking of implementing the whole concept of MMT, of which the JG is but one part, with this statement. Perhaps I did not make that clear.

voteforno6 , October 2, 2018 at 8:36 am

There are a couple different aspects of this that people are getting mixed together, I think. The core of MMT is not a proposal for government to implement. Rather, it is simply a description of how sovereign currencies actually operate, as opposed by mainstream economics, which has failed in this regard. In other words, we don't need any new laws to implement MMT – we need a paradigm shift.

The Jobs Guarantee is a policy proposal that flows from this different paradigm.

skippy , October 2, 2018 at 3:16 pm

It has been stated many times that it is to inform policy wrt to potential and not some booming voice from above dictating from some ridged ideology.

Persoanly as a capitalist I can't phantom why anyone would want structural under – unemployment. Seems like driving around with the hand brake on and then wondering why performance is restricted or parts wear out early.

todde , October 2, 2018 at 4:37 pm

Power.

I want 12 people lined up at the door to take your job, and then you will know where the power lies

Carla , October 2, 2018 at 11:18 am

Re-writing the U.S. Constitution is something people think about and talk about all the time, FYI.

todde , October 2, 2018 at 1:08 pm

the Amendment required to create the Federal Reserve System

What Amendment was that?

And since the Constitution gives Congress the power to coin money I am unaware of any reason an amendment would be necessary.

Epistrophy , October 2, 2018 at 3:43 pm

Thinking of the Federal Reserve Act being enabled by the Federal Income Tax of the 16th Amendment.

Using Federal taxes to fund the JG; I do not think that this aspect of it (and others) would survive a Constitutional challenge. Therefore ultimately an Amendment might be needed.

Then again I may be wrong. Technically Obamacare should have been implemented by an Amendment were strict Constitutional law applied.

Rights to health care and jobs are not enumerated in either the Constitution or Bill of Rights, as far as I am aware.

todde , October 2, 2018 at 4:05 pm

16th Amendment had nothing to do with the Federal Reserve.

And I think you are confusing 'you must buy health insurance or face a tax", with "You have a right to have healthcare".

If the government forced you to work, you may have a case.

There are 3 things the feds can spend federal funds on, pay debt, provide for the common defense, and the general welfare clause.

The General Welfare clause has been interpreted very widely in regards to Government spending.

New Deal, Social Security, Medicare/aid all survived court challenges, or if they lost, they lost on regulatory issues, and not 'spending' issues

Epistrophy , October 2, 2018 at 7:28 am

Not opposed to some of the principles of MMT, just don't understand, in this modern age where effectively all currency is electronic digits in a banking computer system, the issue of a currency must be tied to taxes. In years past, where currency was printed and in one's pocket, or stuffed under a mattress, or couriered by stagecoach, then yes – taxes would be needed. But today can we not just print (electronically) the cash needed for government operations each year based upon a fixed percentage of private sector GDP? Why therefore do we need government debt? Why do we need an income tax?

skippy , October 2, 2018 at 7:37 am

A. GDP is non distributional.

B. Had taxation not been promoted as theft in some camps Volcker would have not had to jack IR to such a upper bound during the Vietnam war.

C. Government Debt allocated to socially productive activities is a long term asset with distributional income vectors.

D. Ask the Greeks.

Epistrophy , October 2, 2018 at 7:48 am

Skippy, I have lived and worked in countries without income tax (but instead indirect tax) and where government operating revenue was based upon a percentage of projected national revenue. I have been involved in the administration of such budgets.

I am in favor of government spending, or perhaps more accurately termed investing, public money on long-term, economically beneficial projects. But this is not happening. The reality is that government priorities can easily be hijacked by political interests, as we currently witness.

larry , October 2, 2018 at 7:58 am

While I agree that political highjacking is possible and must be dealt with, this is not strictly speaking part of an economic theory, which is what MMT is. While MMT authors may take political positions, the theory itself is politically neutral.

Income taxes, tithes, or any other kind of driver is what drives the monetary circuit. Consider it from first principles. You have just set up a new government with a new currency where this government is the monopoly issuer. No one else has any money yet. So, the government must be the first spender. However, how is this nascent government going to motivate anyone to use this new currency? Via taxation, or like means, that can only be met by using the national currency, whatever form that currency may take, marks on a stick, paper, an entry in a ledger, or the like.

Epistrophy , October 2, 2018 at 8:34 am

Thank you for this explanation. I understand that, for example, this is why the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, I believe, created the Federal Reserve and Federal Income Tax at the same time.

But the US economy functioned adequately, survived a civil war, numerous banking crises, experienced industrialization, national railways, etc without a central bank or federal income tax from the 1790's to 1913.

To me, the US's state of perpetual war is enabled by Federal Income Tax. Without it the MIC would collapse, I am certain.

John k , October 2, 2018 at 10:31 am

Functioned adequately
During the 150 yr hard money period we had recessions/depressions that we're both far more frequent (every three years) and on avg far deeper than what we have had since fdr copied the brits and took us off the gold standard. Great deprecession was neither the longest or deepest.
Two reasons
Banks used to fail frequently, a run on one bank typically leading to runs on other banks, spreading across regions like prairie fires if your bank failed you lost all your money. Consequences were serious.
During GR so many banks failed in the Midwest, leading to farm foreclosures, the region was near armed insurrection in 1932. Fiat meant that the fed can supply unlimited liquidity. Since then banks have failed but immediately taken over by another. Critically, no depositor has lost a penny, even those with far more exposed than the deposit insurance limit. No runs on us banks since 1933.
Second, we now have auto stabilizers, spending continues during downturns because gov has no spending limit. Note previously in an emergency gov borrowed. 10 mil from J.P. Morgan.

Brian , October 2, 2018 at 11:30 am

But at what cost? no depositor loses money, yet huge amounts are required to be printed, thus devaluing the "currency". So is the answer inflation that must by necessity become hyperinflation?
I don't understand why it is important to protect a bank vs. making it perform its function without risking collapse. This is magical thinking as we have found very few banks in this world not ready and willing to pillage their clients, be it nations or just the little folk.
Why would anyone trust a government to do the right thing by its population? When has that ever worked out in favor of the people?
I can not understand the trust being demanded by this concept. It wants trust for the users, but in no way can it expect trust or virtue from the issuer of the "currency"

also, I can't help but think MMT is for growth at all costs. Hasn't the growth shown that it is pernicious in itself? Destroy the planet for the purpose of stabilizing "currency".

Our federal reserve gave banks trillions of dollars, and then demanded they keep much of it with the Fed and are paid interest not to use it. It inflated the "currency" in circulation yet again and now it is becoming clear a great percentage of people in our country can no longer eat, no longer purchase medications, a home, a business

If being on a hard money system as we were causes recessions and depressions, would we find that it was a natural function to cut off the speculators at their knees?

How does MMT promote and retain value for the actual working and producing people that have no recourse with their government? I would like to read about what is left out of this monumental equation.

TroyMcClure , October 2, 2018 at 12:10 pm

Money is not a commodity and does not "lose value" the more of it there is.

todde , October 2, 2018 at 12:57 pm

we used to protect the banks depositors and the government put the the bank in receivership.

That went away in the 21st century for some reason.

Now we protect the bank and put the Government in receivership (Greece).

todde , October 2, 2018 at 12:08 pm

Some points:

US had a federal income tax during the civil war and for a decade or so after.

I have always assumed that mass conscription and the Dreadnought arms race led to the implementation of the modern taxing/monetary system. (gov't needed both warfare and welfare)

Taxes, just as debt, create an artificial demand for currency as one must pay back their taxes in {currency}, and one must pay back debt in {currency}. It doesn't have to be an income tax, and I think a sales tax would be a better driver of demand than an income tax.

The US had land sales that helped fund government expenditures in the 1800s.

HotFlash , October 2, 2018 at 12:32 pm

Not all taxes are income taxes. Back in the day (20's/30's/40's),my grandfather could pay off the (county) property taxes on his farm by plowing snow for the county in the winter -- and he was damned careful to make sure that the county commissioners' driveways were plowed out as early as possible after a storm.

In the 30's/40's the property tax laws were changed to be payable only in dollars.

So Grandpa had to make cash crops. Things changed and money became necessary.

Benjamin Wolf , October 2, 2018 at 7:44 am

But today can we not just print (electronically) the cash needed for government operations each year based upon a fixed percentage of private sector GDP?

The élites could, but it would be totally undemocratic and the economics profession's track record of forecasting growth is no better than letting a cat choose a number written on an index card.

Why therefore do we need government debt?

There is no government debt. It's just a record of interest payments Congress has agreed to make because the wealthy wanted another welfare program.

Why do we need an income tax?

The only logically consistent purpose is because people have too much income.

voteforno6 , October 2, 2018 at 8:19 am

I think the point they're driving at, is that by requiring the payment of taxes in a particular currency, a government creates demand for that currency. There are other uses for federal taxes, not the least of which is to keep inflation in check.

Government debt is not needed, at least not at the federal level. My understanding of it is that it's a relic from the days of the gold standard. It's also very useful to some rather large financial institutions, so eliminating it would be politically difficult.

WobblyTelomeres , October 2, 2018 at 9:23 am

Wray has said in interviews that the debt (and associated treasury bonds), while not strictly necessary in a fiat currency, is of use in that it provides a safe base for investment, for pensioners and retirees, etc.

Sure, it could be eliminated by (a) trillion dollar platinum coins deposited at the Federal Reserve followed by (b) slowly paying off the existing debt when the bonds mature or (c) simply decreeing that the Fed must go to a terminal and type in 21500000000000 as the US Gov account balance (hope I got the number of zeroes correct!).

It could be argued that the US doesn't strictly need taxes to drive currency demand as long as our status as the world reserve currency is maintained (see oft-discussed petrodollar, Libya, etc). If that status is imperiled, say by an push by a coalition of nations to establish a different currency as the "world reserve currency") taxes would be needed to drive currency demand.

I think most of this is covered in one way or another here:

http://neweconomicperspectives.org/modern-monetary-theory-primer.html

HotFlash , October 2, 2018 at 12:39 pm

Government debt is not actually a 'real thing'. It is a residue of double-entry bookkeeping, as is net income (income minus expenses, that's a credit in the double-entry system). It could as well be called 'retained earnings (also a 'book' credit in the double-entry system). If everybody had to take bookkeeping in high school there would be far few knickers in knots!

Todde , October 2, 2018 at 3:10 pm

Its real if you pay an interest rate on it

Grebo , October 2, 2018 at 3:48 pm

There are two kinds of government 'debt': the accumulated deficit which is the money in circulation not a real debt, and outstanding bonds which is real in the sense that it must be repaid with interest.

However, the government can choose the interest rate and pay it (or buy back the bonds at any time) with newly minted money at no cost to itself, cf. QE.

Neither kind warrant bunched panties.

todde , October 2, 2018 at 4:39 pm

no panties bunched.

horostam , October 2, 2018 at 8:51 am

seems to me that the guaranteed jobs would be stigmatized, and make it harder for people to get private sector jobs. "once youre in the JG industry, its hard to get out" etc.

how much of a guarantee is the job guarantee supposed to be? ie. at what point can you get fired from a guaranteed job?

Epistrophy , October 2, 2018 at 9:31 am

Yes, my mind wandered into the same territory. While I agree that something needs to be done, it also has the potential to strike at the heart of a lean, merit-based system by introducing another layer of bureaucracy. In principle, I am not against the idea, but as they say, "God (or the Devil – take your pick) is in the details ".

The Rev Kev , October 2, 2018 at 9:48 am

Is there any point in working for a jobs guarantee when the only sort of jobs that would probably be guaranteed would be MacJobs and Amazon workers?

Newton Finn , October 2, 2018 at 11:23 am

If you haven't already read it, "Reclaiming the State" by Mitchell and Fazi (Pluto Press 2017) provides a detailed and cogent analysis of how neoliberalism came into ascendency, and how the principles of MMT can be used to pave the way to a more humane and sustainable economic system. A new political agenda for the left, drawing in a different way upon the nationalism that has energized the right, is laid out for those progressives who understand the necessity of broadening their appeal. And the jobs guarantee that MMT proposes has NOTHING to do with MacJobs and Amazon workers. It has to do with meeting essential human and environmental needs which are not profitable to meet in today's private sector.

HotFlash , October 2, 2018 at 12:51 pm

Job guarantee, or govt as employer of last resort -- now there is a social challenge/opportunity if there ever was one.

Well managed, it would guarantee a living wage to anyone who wants to work, thereby setting a floor on minimum wages and benefits that private employers would have to meet or exceed. These minima would also redound to the benefit of self-employed persons by setting standards re income and care (health, vacations, days off, etc) *and* putting money in the pockets of potential customers.

Poorly managed it could create the 'digging holes, filling them in' programs of the Irish Potato Famine ore worse (hard to imagine, but still ). It has often been remarked that the potato blight was endemic across Europe, it was only a famine in Ireland -- through policy choices.

So, MMT aside (as being descriptive, rather than prescriptive), we are down to who controls policy. And that is *really* scary.

Todde , October 2, 2018 at 3:11 pm

Government job guarantees is an idea as old as the pyramids.

Frankly so is mmt

Mel , October 2, 2018 at 11:34 am

In terms of power, the government has the power to shoot your house to splinters, or blow it up, with or without you in it. We say they're not supposed to, but they have the ability, and it has been done.
The question of how to hold your government to the things it's supposed to do applies to issues beyond money. We'd best deal with government power as an issue in itself. I should buckle down and get Mitchell's next-to-newest book Reclaiming the State .

HotFlash , October 2, 2018 at 12:56 pm

Ding ding ding!

Grebo , October 2, 2018 at 3:23 pm

Bill Mitchell was not too impressed with the INET paper: Part 1 .
There's three parts! Mitchell rarely has the time to be brief.

Tinky , October 2, 2018 at 6:02 am

I don't claim to fully understand MMT yet, but I find Wray's use of the derogatory term "gold bugs" to be both disappointing and revealing. To lump those, some of whom are quite sophisticated, who believe that currencies should be backed by something of tangible value (and no, "the military" misses the point), or those who hold physical gold as an insurance policy against political incompetence, and the inexorable degradation of fiat currencies, in with those who promote or hold gold in the hopes of hitting some type of lottery, is disingenuous at best.

Wukchumni , October 2, 2018 at 7:06 am

OMT seemingly has no reason to exist being old school, but for what it's worth, the almighty dollar has lost over 95% of it's value when measured against something that matters, since the divorce in 1971.

I found this passage funny, as in flipping the dates around to 1791, is when George Washington set an exchange rate of 1000-1 for old debauched Continental Currency, in exchange for newly issued specie. (there was no Federal currency issued until 1861)

So yeah, they burned all of their tax revenue, because the money wasn't worth jack.

Farley Grubb -- the foremost authority on Colonial currency -- proved that the American colonists understood perfectly well that taxes drive money. Every Act that authorized the issue of paper money imposed a Redemption Tax. The colonies burned all their tax revenue.

skippy , October 2, 2018 at 7:30 am

Gold bug is akin to money crank e.g. money = morals. That's not to mention all the evidence to date does not support the monetarist view nor how one gets the value into the inanimate object or how one can make it moral.

Benjamin Wolf , October 2, 2018 at 8:01 am

Gold doesn't historically perform as a hedge but as a speculative trade. Those who think it can protect them from political events typically don't realize that a gold standard means public control of the gold industry, thereby cutting any separation from the political process off at the knees.

When a government declares that $20 is equal in value to one ounce of gold, it also declares an ounce of gold is equal to $20 dollars. It is therefore fixing, through a political decision subject to political changes, the price of the commodity.

Tinky , October 2, 2018 at 9:44 am

Nonsense. When fiat currencies invariably degrade, and especially at a fast rate, gold has proven to be a relative store of value for millennia . All one need do is to look at Venezuela, Argentina, Turkey, etc., to see that ancient dynamic in action today.

You, and others who have replied to my comment, are using the classical gold standard as a straw man, as well. Neither I, nor many other gold "bugs" propose such a simple solution to the obviously failed current economy, which is increasingly based on mountains of debt that can never be repaid.

WobblyTelomeres , October 2, 2018 at 9:48 am

gold has proven to be a relative store of value for millennia.

As long as one is mindful that gold is just another commodity, subject to the same speculative distortions as any other commodity (see Hunt brothers and silver).

Tinky , October 2, 2018 at 9:54 am

But that is obviously false, given that no other commodity has remotely performed with such stability over such a long period of time.

It is true that over short periods distortions can appear, and the *true* value of gold has been suppressed in recent years through the use of fraudulent paper derivatives. But again, I'm not arguing for the return of a classical gold standard.

Wukchumni , October 2, 2018 at 10:13 am

The only way the gold standard returns, is if it's forced on the world on account of massive fraud in terms of fiat money, but that'll never happen.

WobblyTelomeres , October 2, 2018 at 10:56 am

Tinky:

I'm curious as to what you consider the "*true* value of gold". Could you elaborate?

I'm dense/obtuse and thus not an economist!

Tinky , October 2, 2018 at 11:18 am

Don't worry, I'm likely to be at least equally dense!

I didn't mean to suggest that there is some formula from which a *true* value of precious metals might be derived. I simply meant that gold has clearly been the object of price suppression in recent years through the use of paper derivatives (i.e. future contracts). The reason for such suppression, aside from short-term profits to be made, is that gold has historically acted as a barometer relating to political and economic stability, and those in power have a particular interest in suppressing such warning signals when the system becomes unstable.

So, while the Central Banks created previously unimaginable mountains of debt, it was important not to alarm the commoners.

The suppression schemes have become less effective of late, and will ultimately fail when the impending crisis unfolds in earnest.

Wukchumni , October 2, 2018 at 10:00 am

As long as one is mindful that gold is just another commodity, subject to the same speculative distortions as any other commodity

It sounds good in theory, but history says otherwise.

The value remained more or less the same for well over 500 years as far as an English Pound was concerned, the weight and value of a Sovereign hardly varied, and the exact weight and fineness of one struck today or any time since 1817, is the same, no variance whatsoever.

Thus there was no speculative distortions in terms of value, the only variance being the value of the Pound (= 1 Sovereign) itself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_(British_coin)

Benjamin Wolf , October 2, 2018 at 12:23 pm

When fiat currencies invariably degrade, and especially at a fast rate, gold has proven to be a relative store of value for millennia.

Currencies do not degrade. Political systems degrade.

Bridget , October 2, 2018 at 8:25 am

" who believe that currencies should be backed by something of tangible value"

As I understand it, MMT also requires that currency be backed by something of tangible value: a well managed and productive economy. It doesn't matter in the least if your debt is denominated in your own currency if you have the economy of Zimbabwe.

Tinky , October 2, 2018 at 9:48 am

Sounds reasonable in theory, but that was supposed to be the case with the current economic system, as well, and we can all see where that has led.

I'm not arguing that there isn't a theoretically better way to create and use "modern" money, but rather doubt that those empowered to create it out of thin air will ever do so without abusing such power.

Bridget , October 2, 2018 at 10:10 am

Oh, I agree with you. In no universe that I am aware of would the temptation to create money beyond the productive capacity of the economy to back it up be resisted. I think Zimbabwe is a pretty good example of where the theory goes in practice.

TroyMcClure , October 2, 2018 at 12:20 pm

That's exactly wrong. Zimbabwe had a production collapse. Same amount of money to buy a much smaller amount of goods. The gov responded not by increasing goods, but increasing money supply.

Bridget , October 2, 2018 at 1:30 pm

Maybe because the economy did not have the productive capacity to increase goods? It takes more than a magic wand and wishful thinking.

voteforno6 , October 2, 2018 at 8:29 am

Mark Blyth has a good discussion of the gold standard in his book Austerity: The History of a Dangerous Idea . He makes the point that, in imposing the adjustments necessary to keep the balance of payments flowing, the measures imposed by a government would be so politically toxic, that no elected official in his or her right mind would implement them, and expect to remain in office. In short, you can have either democracy, or a gold standard, but you can't have both.

Also, MMT does recognize that there are real world constraints on a currency, and that is represented by employment, not some artificially-imposed commodity such as gold (or bitcoin, or seashells, etc). The Jobs Guarantee flows out of this.

Tinky , October 2, 2018 at 9:50 am

As mentioned above, you, among others who have replied to my original comment, are using the classical gold standard as a straw manl. Neither I, nor many other gold "bugs", propose such a simple solution for the failed current economic system, which is increasingly based on mountains of debt that can never be repaid.

WobblyTelomeres , October 2, 2018 at 11:35 am

increasingly based on mountains of debt that can never be repaid.

Huh? I listed two ways they could be repaid above. In the US, the national debt is denominated in dollars, of which we have an infinite supply (fiat). In addition, the Federal Reserve could buy all the existing debt by [defer to quad-entry accounting stuff from Wray's primer] and then figuratively burn it. Sure, the rest of the world would be pissed and inflation *may* run amok, but "can never" is just flat out wrong.

Tinky , October 2, 2018 at 1:59 pm

Of course it can be extinguished through hyperinflation. I didn't think that it would be necessary to point that out. No "may" about it, though, as if the U.S. prints tens of trillions of dollars to extinguish the debt, hyperinflation will be assured.

todde , October 2, 2018 at 2:14 pm

not if it would be done over time, as the debt comes due.

We could also tax the excess dollars from the system with a large capital gains tax rate.

todde , October 2, 2018 at 3:04 pm

so I don't believe there will be a hyper-inflation of goods, but in asset prices. That is why I would raise the capital gains rate.

The failure of MMT is when the hyper-inflation occurs in goods and services.

Taxing a middle class person while his cost of living is rising will be a tough political act to do.

WobblyTelomeres , October 2, 2018 at 2:19 pm

I didn't think that it would be necessary to point that out.

Sorry, but I'm an old programmer; logic rules the roost. When one's software is expected to execute billions of times a day without fail for years (and this post is very likely routed through a device running an instance of something I've written). Always means every time, no exceptions; never means not ever, no matter what.

You said never.

Tinky , October 2, 2018 at 3:30 pm

Yes I did. I was simply being lazy, as I typically do add "except via hyperflation", when discussing debts that can only be repaid in that manner.

That "solution" is obviously no solution at all, as it would lead to chaos.

Interpret it any way that you wish.

todde , October 2, 2018 at 11:37 am

So what is the new solution proposed by 'gold bugs'?

Tinky , October 2, 2018 at 2:06 pm

I'm sure that there is no one solution proposed, though an alternative to the current system which seems plausible would be a currency backed by a basket of commodities, including gold.

todde , October 2, 2018 at 2:26 pm

and when commodity prices fluctuate you will still have government printing and eliminating money to maintain the price.

I would say, if that was the argument, stick to gold as it is one of the more stable commodities.

AlexHache , October 2, 2018 at 11:43 am

Can I ask what your solution would be? I don't think you've mentioned it.

HotFlash , October 2, 2018 at 1:08 pm

Hi Tinky, much late but still. Gold will have value as long as people believe it has value. But what will they trade it for? The bottom line is your life.

I don't have any gold, too expensive, and it really has no use. But I remember Dimitri Orlov's advice : I am long in needles, pins, thread, nails and screws, drill bits, saws, files, knives, seeds, manual tools of many sorts, mechanical skills and beer recipes. Plus I can sing.

Bridget , October 2, 2018 at 1:31 pm

Don't forget a nice supply of 30 year old single malt scotch!

Tinky , October 2, 2018 at 2:04 pm

The vast majority of people who hold physical gold are well aware of the value of having skills and supplies, etc., in case of a serious meltdown. But it's not a zero-sum game, as you suggest. Gold will inexorably rise sharply in value when today's fraudulent markets crash, and there will be plenty of opportunities for those who own it to trade it for other assets.

Furthermore, as previously mentioned, gold's utility is already on full display, to those who are paying attention, and not looking myopically through a USD lens.

Wukchumni , October 2, 2018 at 2:19 pm

Why not the GOILD standard?, one mineral moves everything, while the other just sits around gathering dust, after being extracted.

David Swan , October 2, 2018 at 2:28 pm

"Mountains of debt that can never be repaid" is a propaganda statement with no reference to any economic fact. Why do you feel that this "debt" needs to be "repaid"? It is simply an accounting artifact. The "debt" is all of the dollars that have been spent *into* the economy without having been taxed back *out*. The word "debt" activates your feels, but has no intrinsic meaning in this context. Please step back from your indoctrinated emotional reaction and understand that the so-called national "debt" is nothing more than money that has been created via public spending, and "repaying" it would be an act of destruction.

WobblyTelomeres , October 2, 2018 at 3:27 pm

THIS!!!

I keep telling (boring, annoying, infuriating) people that, in the simplest terms, the national debt is the money supply and they won't grasp that simple declaration. When I said it to my Freedom Caucus congress critter (we were seated next to each other on an exit aisle) his head started spinning, reminding me of Linda Blair in The Exorcist.

Tinky , October 2, 2018 at 3:44 pm

The debt may not have to be repaid, but the interest does have to be serviced. Good luck with that in the long run.

WobblyTelomeres , October 2, 2018 at 4:18 pm

As I said to my congress critter, if the debt bother's y'all so much, why not just pay it off, dust off your hands, and be done with it?

Personally, if I were President for a day, I'd have the mint stamp out 40 or so trillion dollar platinum coins just to fill the top right drawer of the Resolute desk. Would give me warm fuzzy feelings all day long.

p.s. I also told him that the man with nothing cares not about inflation. He didn't like that either.

MisterMr , October 2, 2018 at 8:46 am

"those, some of whom are quite sophisticated, who believe that currencies should be backed by something of tangible value (and no, "the military" misses the point), or those who hold physical gold as an insurance policy against political incompetence, and the inexorable degradation of fiat currencies"

I suspect that Wray exactly means that these people are the goldbugs, not the ones who speculate on gold.

The whole point that currencies should be backed by something of tangible value IMO is wrong, and I think the MMTers agree with me on this.

Tinky , October 2, 2018 at 9:56 am

If so, then he should clarify his position, as again, lumping the billions – literally – of people who consider gold to be economically important, together as one, is disingenuous.

skippy , October 2, 2018 at 3:55 pm

I think people that consider gold to be a risk hedge understand its anthro, per se an early example of its use was a fleck of golds equal weight to a few grains of wheat e.g. the gold did not store value, but was a marker – token of the wheat's value – labour inputs and utility. Not to mention its early use wrt religious iconography or vis-à-vis the former as a status symbol. Hence many of the proponents of a gold standard are really arguing for immutable labour tokens, problem here is scalability wrt high worth individuals and resulting distribution distortions, unless one forwards trickle down sorts of theory's.

Not to mention in times of nascent socioeconomic storms many that forward the idea of gold safety are the ones selling it. I think as such the entire thing is more a social psychology question than one of factual natural history e.g. the need to feel safe i.e. like commercials about "peace of mind". I think a reasonably stable society would provide more "peace of mind" than some notion that an inanimate object could lend too – in an atomistic individualistic paradigm.

WobblyTelomeres , October 2, 2018 at 4:26 pm

I once had an co-worker that was a devout Christian. When he realized I wasn't religious, he asked me, incredulously, how I was able to get out of bed in the morning. Meaning, he couldn't face a world without meaning.

I think a lot of people feel that same way about money. They fight over it, lie for it, steal it, kill for it, go to war over it, and most importantly, slave for it. Therefore, it must have intrinsic value. I think gold bugs are in this camp.

Fried , October 2, 2018 at 6:06 am

Talking about Warren's blog ( http://moslereconomics.com/ ), everytime I try to go there, Cloudflare asks me to prove that I am human. Anyone know what's up with that? It's the only website I've ever seen do that.

Tinky , October 2, 2018 at 6:13 am

No such prompt for me (using Mac desktop computer, OS 10.11.6 and Safari browser.

Fried , October 2, 2018 at 7:35 am

Thanks. It seems to be blocking my IP address, no idea why. Not sure why I have to be human to look at a website.

Epistrophy , October 2, 2018 at 8:46 am

Try running your IP address through a blacklist checker maybe it's been flagged

Fried , October 2, 2018 at 10:03 am

Hm, I can't find anything that would explain it. Maybe the website just generally blocks Austrians. ;-)

el_tel , October 2, 2018 at 10:10 am

That's a good suggestion. Unfortunately, as I sometimes find, you can pass ALL the major test-sites but something (a minor, less-used site using out-of-date info?) can give you grief. NC site managers once (kindly) took the time to explain to me why I might have problems that they had no ability to address at their end. I had to muck around with a link given earlier to Bill Mitchell's blog before my browser would load it.
I think there can be quirks that are beyond our control (unfortunately) – for instance I think a whole block of IP addresses (including mine) used by my ISP have been flagged *somewhere* – no doubt due to another customer doing stuff that the checker(s) don't like. (The issue I mentioned above was more likely due to a strict security protocol in my browser, however.)

kgw , October 2, 2018 at 11:57 am

I ended up physically typing in the url to Bill Mitchell's blog: that worked.

el_tel , October 2, 2018 at 12:43 pm

yeah think that's what I did

larry , October 2, 2018 at 6:45 am

Monetary policy in terms of interest rates is not just weak, it also tends to treat all targets the same. Fiscal policy can be targetted to where it is felt it can do the most good.

William Beyer , October 2, 2018 at 7:00 am

Christine Desan's book, "Making Money," exhaustively documents the history of money as a creature of the state. Recall as well that creating money and regulating its value are among the enumerated POWERS granted to our government by we, the people. Money, indeed, is power.

Grumpy Engineer , October 2, 2018 at 8:26 am

Hmmm Randy Wray states that " permanent Zirp (zero interest rate policy) is probably a better policy since it reduces the compounding of debt and the tendency for the rentier class to take over more of the economy. "

But just last week, Yves stated that " that one of the consequences of the protracted super-low interest rate regime of the post crisis era was to create a world of hurt for savers, particularly long-term savers like pension funds, life insurers and retirees. " [ https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2018/09/crisis-caused-pension-train-wreck.html ]

So are interest rates today too high, or too low? We're getting mixed messages here.

IMO, interest rates are too low . Beyond the harmful effect to savers, it also drives income inequality . How? When interest rates are less than inflation, it is trivial to borrow money, buy some assets, wait for the assets to appreciate, sell the assets, repay the debt, and still have profit left over even after paying interest . Well, it's trivial if you're already rich and have a line of credit that is both large and low-interest. If you're poor with a bad FICO score, you don't get to play the asset appreciation game at all.

I can't think of another reason inequality skyrocketed so badly during the Obama years: https://www.newsweek.com/2013/12/13/two-numbers-rich-are-getting-richer-faster-244922.html . Other than interest rates, his policies weren't all that different from Clinton or Bush.

Tinky , October 2, 2018 at 10:38 am

Not to mention that interest rates are designed to reflect risk . Artificially suppressed rates mask risk, and inevitably lead to gross malinvestment.

todde , October 2, 2018 at 12:31 pm

The rates between riskier and less risky borrowers will still be reflected in the different rates given to each.

The low rates encourage greater risk taking to increase the reward(a higher rate of return). This is what leads to the gross malinvestment.

Case in point: the low rates led to more investments into the stock market, where the returns are unlimited. This is what led to the income inequality of Obama's term, as mentioned above.

todde , October 2, 2018 at 3:07 pm

if government creates money to lend to borrowers it should be at a zero interest rate.

The loans would be based on public policy decisions, and not business decisions.

HotFlash , October 2, 2018 at 1:36 pm

I cannot speak for Yves, nor or Randy, but IMO, interest rates are too low for people who depend on interest for their living -- as an old person, I have seen my expected income drop to about zilch when I had expected 7 to 10% on my savings. Haha! So yeah, too low for us who saved for 'retirement'.

Too high for people financing on credit, since a decent mortgage on a modestly-priced house will cost you almost the same as the house . And that doesn't even begin to look at unsecured consumer credit (ie, credit card debt), which is used in the US and other barbaric countries for medical expenses, not to mention student debt. The banks can create the principal with their keystrokes, but they don't create the interest. Where do you suppose that comes from? Hint: nowhere, as in foreclosures and bankruptcies.

Adam1 , October 2, 2018 at 3:12 pm

Wray's statement reflects his preferences from an operational policy perspective. Sovereign government debt cares no risk and therefore should not pay interest. The income earned from that interest is basically a subsidy and all income when spent caries a risk of inflation induced excess demand. Therefore who unnecessarily add the risk to the economy and potential risk needing to reduce other policy objectives to accommodate unnecessary interest income subsidies to mostly rich people?

Yves comment reflects the reality of prior decades of economic history. Even if Wray's policy perspective is optimal, there are decades of people with pensions and retirement savings designed around the assumption of income from risk-free government debt. It's this legacy that Yves is commenting on and is a real problem that current policy makers are just ignoring.

As for your comments on how low cost credit can be abused, I believe you'll find most MMT practitioners would recommend far more regulation on the extension of credit for non-productive purposes.

michael hudson , October 2, 2018 at 8:38 am

I just wrote a note to Randy:
The origin of money is not merely for accounting, but specifically for accounting for DEBT -- debt owed to the palatial economy and temples.
I make that clear in my Springer dictionary of money that will come out later this year: Origins of Money and Interest: Palatial Credit, not Barter

horostam , October 2, 2018 at 8:57 am

The Babylonian Madness is contagious thanks prof hudson

gramsci , October 2, 2018 at 9:22 am

Can somebody help me out here? It seems to me that the US macroeconomic policy has been operating under MMT at least since FDR (see for example Beardsley Ruml from 1945).

Since then, insofar as I understand MMT, fiat has been printed and distributed to flow primarily through the MIC and certain other periodically favored sectors (e.g. the Interstate Highway System). Then, rather than destroying this fiat through taxation, the sectoral balances have been kept deliberately out of balance: Taxes on unearned income have been almost eliminated with an eye to not destroying fiat, but to sequestering as much as possible in the private hands of the 1%. This accumulating fiat cannot be productively invested because that would cause overproduction, inflation, and reduce the debt burden by which the 1% retains power over the 99%. So the new royalists, as FDR would have styled them, keep their hoard as a war chest against "socialists".

I get all this, more or less, and I appreciate that it is well and good and important that MMTers insistently point out that the emperor has no clothes. This is a necessary first step in educating the 99%.

But I don't see MMT types discussing the fact that US (and NATO) macroeconomic policy already has a Job Guarantee: if you don't want to work alongside undocumented immigrants on a roof or in a slaughterhouse or suffer the humiliation of US welfare, such as it is, you can always get a job with the army, or the TSA, or the police, or as a prison guard, or if you have some education, with a health unsurance company or pushing drone buttons. You only have to be willing to follow orders to kill–or at least help to kill–strangers.

(Okay, perhaps I overstate. If you're a medical doctor or an "educator" with university debt you don't have to actively kill. You can decline scant Medicaid payments and open a concierge practice, or you can teach to the test in order that nobody learns anything moral.)

It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. Wouldn't it be clarified matters if MMTers acknowledged that we already have a JG?

Wukchumni , October 2, 2018 at 12:50 pm

We have been operating on MMT since the end of WW2, with 2 exceptions in 1968 when Silver Certificate banknotes no longer were redeemable for silver, and in 1971 when foreign central banks (not individuals!) weren't allowed to exchange FRN's for gold @ $35 an ounce anymore.

It's been full on fiat accompli since then and to an outsider looks absurd in that money is entirely a faith-based agenda, but it's worked for the majority of all of lives, so nobody squawks.

It's an economic "the emperor has no clothes" gig.

HotFlash , October 2, 2018 at 1:54 pm

It seems to me that the US macroeconomic policy has been operating under MMT at least since FDR (see for example Beardsley Ruml from 1945).

Yup, you are correct, IMO. And about the jobs guarantee, too. The point of MMT is not that we have to adopt, believe in, or implement it, but that *this is how things work* and we need to get a %&*^* handle on it *STAT* or they will ride it and us to the graveyard. The conservatives and neo-cons are already on to this, long-time.

I believe the chant is:

We can have anything we want that is available in our (sovereign) currency and for which there are resources

What we get depends on what we want and how well we convince/coerce our 'leaders' to make it so.

David Swan , October 2, 2018 at 2:43 pm

JG is geared toward community involvement to create an open-ended collection of potential work assignments, not top-down provision of a limited number of job slots determined by bureaucrats on a 1% leash.

Wukchumni , October 2, 2018 at 9:31 am

About every 80 years, there has been a great turning in terms of money in these United States

Might as well start with 1793 and the first Federal coins, followed in 1861 by the first Federal paper money, and then the abandonment of the gold standard (a misnomer, as it was one of many money standards @ era, most of them fiat) in 1933.

We're a little past our use-by date for the next incarnation of manna, or is it already here in the guise of the great giveaway orchestrated since 2008 to a selected few?

Adam1 , October 2, 2018 at 9:40 am

After learning MMT I've occasionally thought I should get a refund for the two economics degree's I originally received. One of the primary mainstream teachings that I now readily see as false is the concept of money being a vale over a barter economy. It's lazy, self-serving analysis. It doesn't even pass a basic logical analysis let alone archeological history. Even in a very primitive economy it would be virtually impossible for barter to be the main form of transaction. The strawberry farmer can't barter with the apple farmer. His strawberries will be rotten before the apples are ripe. He could give the apple farmer strawberries in June on the promise of receiving apples in October, but that's not barter that's credit. The apple farmer could default of his own free will or by happenstance (he dies, his apple harvest is destroyed by an act of god, etc ). How does the iron miner get his horse shoed if the blacksmith needs iron before he can make the horse show? Credit has to have always been a key component of any economy and therefore barter could never have been the original core.

HotFlash , October 2, 2018 at 2:00 pm

After learning MMT I've occasionally thought I should get a refund for the two economics degree's I originally received.

Agreed. Richard Wolff notes that in most Impressive Universities there are two schools, one for Economics (theory) and another for Business (practice). Heh. I say, go for the refund, you was robbed.

Wukchumni , October 2, 2018 at 10:11 am

Take Indians for instance

All the Rupee* has done over time is go down in value against other currencies, and up in the spot price measured in Rupees even as gold is trending down now, and that whole stupid demonetization of bank notes gig, anybody on the outside of the fiat curtain looking in, had to be laughing, and ownership there is no laughing matter, as it's almost a state financial religion, never seen anything like it.

* A silver coin larger than a U.S. half dollar pre-post WW2, now worth a princely 1.4 cents U.S.

Chauncey Gardiner , October 2, 2018 at 12:34 pm

Not an economist, but I appreciate both the applicability of MMT and the fierce, but often subtle resistance its proponents have encountered academically, institutionally and politically. However, I have questioned to what extent MMT is uniquely applicable to a nation with either a current account surplus or that controls access to a global reserve currency.

How does a nation that is sovereign in its own currency, say Argentina for example (there are many such examples), lose 60 percent of its value in global foreign exchange markets in a very short time period?

Is this due primarily to private sector debts denominated in a foreign currency (and if so, what sectors of the Argentine economy undertook those debts, for what purposes, and to whom are they owed?), foreign exchange market manipulation by external third parties, the effective imposition of sanctions by those who control the global reserve currency and international payments system, or some combination of those or other factors?

Mel , October 2, 2018 at 12:53 pm

Michael Hudson described some of it earlier this year:
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2018/07/michael-hudson-argentina-gets-biggest-imf-loan-history.html

Rodger Malcolm Mitchell , October 2, 2018 at 3:48 pm

All hyperinflations are caused by shortages, usually shortages of food. See: https://mythfighter.com/2018/08/27/ten-answers-that-are-contrary-to-popular-wisdom/

There is no avoiding bad government.

PKMKII , October 2, 2018 at 1:57 pm

MMT makes more sense than orthodox neoliberal accounts of currency and sovereign spending to me, as it does a better job of acknowledging reality. MMT recognizes that currency is an artifice and that imagined limitations on it are just that, and real resources are the things which are limited. Neoliberal economics acts as if all sorts of byzantine factors mean currency must be limited, but we can think of resources, and the growth machine they feed, as being infinite.

Rodger Malcolm Mitchell , October 2, 2018 at 3:41 pm

"Taxes or other obligations (fees, fines, tribute, tithes) drive the currency."

Specifically, what does "drive" mean? Does it mean:
1. When taxes are reduced, the value of money falls?
2. If taxes were zero, the value of money would be zero?
3. Cryptocurrencies, which are not supported by taxes, have no value?

"JG is a critical component of MMT. It anchors the currency and ensures that achieving full employment will enhance both price and financial stability."

Specifically, what do "anchors" and "critical component" mean? Do they mean:
1. Since JG does not exist, the U.S. dollar is unanchored and MMT does not exist?
2. Providing college graduates with ditch-digging jobs enhances price and financial stability?
3. Forcing people to work is both morally and economically superior to giving them money and benefits?

Grebo , October 2, 2018 at 4:20 pm

"Drive" means "creates initial demand for":
1. No, not for an established currency.
2. See 1.
3. Crypto is worth what you can buy with it.

"Anchors" means it acts against inflation and deflation. "Critical component" means the economy works better if it has it.
1. Yes and no.
2. Yes, if no-one else will hire them.
3. No element of force is implied.

[Sep 27, 2018] Even those nations desirous of undoing dollar hegemony have said it cannot be done overnight as the overall system is both too complex and too fragile for hasty adjustments to be made stably. Moreover, for better or worse, the Outlaw US Empire's an integral component of the global economy, which motivates those changing the system to arrive at a Soft Landing, not a Hard Crash.

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Sunny Runny Burger , Sep 26, 2018 4:06:24 PM | link

Karlof1 I could be wrong of course but one example of why none of that would matter is when the US dollar for all practical purposes winks out of existence and that could happen right now as we speak. Why would that happen you may ask? It would happen whenever someone "beyond personal wealth" like the usual finance suspects decides it is the way for them to make enormous amounts of profit out of the resulting worldwide instability before any of their competitors beat them to it. The longer they wait the more likely someone else will jump the gun and surprise them.

I don't think the US has two years worth of "blood" left in it before that happens.

In a sense nothing will be left when each and every dollar becomes at least 20 trillion times less valuable. If the response to that happening is the same as the early 20ieth century response (Germany) then nothing will be left at all considering the difference in technology and differences in circumstance (everybody already have the weapons ready). If the response is the late 20ieth century response (USSR) then maybe something will be left but the USSR was both lucky and relatively solvent in comparison to the current US. The starting point for the US is several magnitudes worse in both examples. The world can't afford to carry the US at cost any more than the US can't right now and like the US haven't been able to for decades, the required wealth doesn't exist.

karlof1 , Sep 26, 2018 5:13:27 PM | link

Sunny Runny Burger @24--

The nascent USA had its national capital sacked and presidential residence burnt during what's known as the War of 1812, yet it continued to exist politically. Same during Civil War. During the Revolutionary War, the USA had a national government and 13 separate state governments, all of which continued to function as the war raged. There've been at least two Coups--1963 and 2000--but the USA continued its political existence. Even the Germany destroyed by WW2 still existed politically. Destroying political entities is very--extremely--difficult, which is why it seldom occurs. Rome's central authority ceased in the mid 6th century but its provinces continued as did the Eastern portion of the Roman Empire. Russia's governmental system was drastically altered during and after Russia's Civil War, but Russia continued to exists as a political entity. The USSR was an imperial governing edifice built atop numerous national political entities. It did vanish, but the nations comprising it didn't; indeed, new nations were born as a result.

As for the dollar and its international position, even those nations desirous of undoing dollar hegemony have said it cannot be done overnight as the overall system is both too complex and too fragile for hasty adjustments to be made stably . Moreover, for better or worse, the Outlaw US Empire's an integral component of the global economy, which motivates those changing the system to arrive at a Soft Landing, not a Hard Crash.

Catastrophism belongs in the realm of Geology, not Geopolitics, although the former will certainly affect the latter. Geopolitics can certainly enable an ecological crisis such as the Overshoot we're now entering, but that's several magnitudes less than what rates as a geological catastrophe--and not all such catastrophes are global.

[Sep 21, 2018] The Dollar Shortage China's Bond Selling Are About To Corner the Fed Zero Hedge Zero Hedge

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The Dollar Shortage & China's Bond Selling Are About To Corner the Fed

by Palisade Research Fri, 09/21/2018 - 19:22 8 SHARES

Via Adem Tumerkan @ Palisade-Research.com

- This is a repost of the recent Palisade Weekly Letter –

Earlier this week – news went by relatively unnoticed by the ' mainstream ' financial media (CNCB and such) that Beijing's started selling their U.S. debt holdings.

Putting it another way – they're dumping U.S. bonds. . .

"China's ownership of U.S. bonds, bills and notes slipped to $1.17 trillion, the lowest level since January and down from $1.18 trillion in June."

Remember – dumping U.S. debt is China's nuclear option (which I wrote about back in April – click here to read if you missed it ).

And although they're starting to sell U.S. bonds – expect it to be at a slow and steady pace. They don't want to risk hurting themselves over this.

I believe China may be selling just enough to get the attention of Trump and the Treasury. A soft warning for them not to take things too far with tariffs and trade.

Yet already just as news hit the wire that China was selling bonds a few days ago – U.S. yields spiked above 3%. . .


Don't forget that China's the U.S.'s largest foreign creditor. And this is an asset for them.

And although them selling is worrisome – the real problems started months ago. . .

Over the last few months, my macro research and articles are all finally coming together. This thesis we had is finally taking shape in the real world.

I wrote in a detailed piece a few months back that foreigners just aren't lending to the U.S. as much anymore ( you can read that here ).

I called this the 'silent problem'. . .

Long story short: the U.S. is running huge deficits. They haven't been this big since the Great Financial Recession of 08.

And it shouldn't come as a surprise to many.

Because of Trump's tax cuts, there's less government revenue coming in. And that means the increased military spending and other Federal spending has to be paid for on someone else's tab.

The U.S. does 'bond auctions' all the time where banks and foreigners buy U.S. debt – giving the Treasury cash to spend now.

But like I highlighted in the 'silent problem' article (seriously, read it if you haven't) – foreigners are buying less U.S. debt recently. . .

This is a serious problem because if the Treasury wants to spend more while collecting less taxes, they need to borrow heavily.

This trend's continued since 2016 and it's getting worse. And with the mounting liabilities (like pensions and social security and medicare), they'll need to borrow trillions more in the coming years.


So, in summary – the U.S. has less interested foreign creditors at a time when they need them more than ever.

But wait, it gets worse. . .

The Federal Reserve's currently tightening – they're raising rates and selling bonds via Quantitative Tightening (QT – fancy word for sucking money out of system).

This is the second big problem – and I wrote about in 'Anatomy of a Crisis' ( read here ). And even earlier than that here .

So, while the Fed does this tightening, they're creating a global dollar shortage. . .

As I wrote. . . "This is going to cause an evaporation of dollar liquidity – making the markets extremely fragile. Putting it simply – the soaring U.S. deficit requires an even greater amount dollars from foreigners to fund the U.S. Treasury . But if the Fed is shrinking their balance sheet , that means the bonds they're selling to banks are sucking dollars out of the economy (the reverse of Quantitative Easing which was injecting dollars into the economy). This is creating a shortage of U.S. dollars – the world's reserve currency – therefore affecting every global economy."

The Fed's tightening is sucking money – the U.S. dollar – out of the global economy and banks. And they're doing this at a time when Foreigners need even more liquidity so that they can buy U.S. debt.

How is the Treasury supposed to get funding if there's less dollars out there available? And how can they entice investors if Foreigners don't have enough liquidity to fund U.S. debt?

These Emerging Markets must use their dollar reserves to prop up their own currencies and economies today. They can't be worrying about funding U.S. pensions and other bloated spending when their economies are crumbling.

These two themes I've written about extensively – the decline of foreign investors and the Fed's tightening – have gotten us to this point today.

And the U.S. is extremely fragile because of both problems. . .

Here's the worst part – China probably knows this . That's why they're selling just enough U.S. bonds to spook markets.

But if the trade war and soon-to-be a currency war continues, no doubt China will sell more of their debt – sending yields soaring.

I just got done last week detailing how U.S. debt servicing costs (interest payments) are already becoming very unsustainable ( click here if you missed it ).

At this point they're literally borrowing money just to pay back old debts – that's known as a 'ponzi scheme'.

This is why I believe the Fed will eventually cut rates back to 0% – and then into negative territory. And instead of sucking money out of the economy via QT, they're going to start printing trillions more.

How else will the Treasury be able to get the funding they need?

I'll continue to keep you up to date with what's going on and how it all fits together.

But I think the two big problems I wrote about above are now converging into a new massive problem. And I don't see any way out of it unless the Fed monetizes the U.S. Treasury and outstanding debts. And that will cause massive moves in the markets.

I'm sure Trump will eventually tweet , "Oh Yeah? Foreigners don't want to buy the U.S. debt? Blasphemy! Who needs you all when we have a printing press!"

Or something like that. . .

TimeTraveller , 1 hour ago

I'm really starting to get sick of these crap reports from Palisade Research. Again they are totally wrong on so many levels.

1. China is selling Treasuries, because they are pre-empting a debt crisis in their own country and need Dollar financing for their overleveraged companies and their banking sector. Also, China is lending money to every 3rd world country that needs infrustructure for it's Belt and Road Initiative. Building ports, bridges and railways across Asia and Africa, costs money.

2. Selling Treasuries will weaken the Dollar, so making the RMB stronger. China does NOT want the RMB stronger because it erodes their exporters margins and competetiveness. Why would they want to hurt themselves just to punish their biggest customer?

To even suggest China is "using the Nuclear option" of dumping Treasuries just shows your total ignorance of the real world.

Palisade are clueless

ConanTheContrarian1 , 1 hour ago

OTOH, the crisis in Emerging Markets and the effect of capital flight on China are just two of the MANY things not mentioned in this article. There has been tension building into financial warfare between China and the US ever since they pegged the yuan low to the dollar in 1987. The US is doing things under the table to China, China to the US, and they're both quite capable of paying Adam Tumerkan (and others) to write hit pieces against the other side. Think deeply before choosing a side.

[Sep 15, 2018] Has that system dynamic changed/evolved seriously since the Roman era? We have usury. We have inheritance. We have banking. The concept of private property evolved along with the mythical moral fig leaf of rule-of-law. We call it the Western form of "civilization".

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psychohistorian , Sep 15, 2018 7:51:52 PM | link

@ Lochearn who is correcting my genealogical representation of empire

Yes, you are more correct than I. That said, does it go back even further to the founding of monotheistic religions? We are referring to social control by an elite in my mind more than the Jewish bankers part of your genealogy. I admit to the bankers part but see that bankers group as the encourage/control entity for the other monotheistic religions.

Has that system dynamic changed/evolved seriously since the Roman era? We have usury. We have inheritance. We have banking. The concept of private property evolved along with the mythical moral fig leaf of rule-of-law. We call it the Western form of "civilization".

Jen , Sep 15, 2018 8:01:37 PM | link

Psycho Historian: I have been reading a Great Courses book on the history of the Achaemenid rmpire that ruled Persia and one interesting tidbit from my reading is that temples and their priests made loans to property (though turned did not accept deposits). So religious institutions got into the banking business early.

karlof1 , Sep 15, 2018 8:13:22 PM | link

Jen @27--

In his talks about his upcoming book, Hudson has said that besides the Palace the Temples were the first sources of credit. But their relation to society then vastly differs from what evolved as both Palace and Temple become corrupted by greed.

jrkrideau , Sep 15, 2018 9:03:58 PM | link

@ 27 Jen

So religious institutions got into the banking business early.

Achaemenids? I think this was rather late. IIRC temples in Ur, Sumer and Babylon were in the business long before the Achaemenid period.

However Ur, Sumer and Babylon also seem to have had a general debt amnesty about every 7 years. There was a sound political or economic rationale for this. Something about the idea that one was not supposed to grind the faces of the poor into the gravel, nor destroy the fabric of society.

The temples were the only organizations that had the administrative ability to do this. Temple, at least in Mesopotamia is a bit of a misnomer. As I understand it, the "temple" was the home of the god, the royal palace and the seat of the civil service all rolled into one.

You might find David Graeber's book Debt : The First 5,000 Years interesting. He discusses why the temples were in the money lending business. It's a rather fun read and comes in hard cover and completely free pdf.
https://libcom.org/files/__Debt__The_First_5_000_Years.pdf

did not accept deposits

I never thought of it, but yes of course. Given their functions they would not take deposits. They were loaning from state resources and did not need deposits. They would not have even understood the concept.

I am not sure if this applies during the Achaemenid period but it seems likely.

[Aug 13, 2018] The Annals of Roacheforque Back That A$$et Up ...

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Sunday, August 12, 2018 Back That A$$et Up ... From the first sentence of Michael Sproul's There's No Such Thing as Fiat Money (2007) :

I make the claim that fiat money does not exist, and that the money that is commonly called fiat money is actually backed by the assets of its issuer.
Who would argue against the premise that modern currencies are backed by the issuer's assets? The questions that remain are: How broad a definition of "assets" is being considered? And does "asset backing" justifiably negate the meaning of "fiat", or is this mere semantics?

In any event, I would counter argue that the meaning of "fiat" is possibly in need of clarification. And such clarification would then allow for the sensible conclusion that fiat money does indeed exist. Sproul's premise is a good launch pad for clarifying just what it is that backs the US Dollar.

Many have said that the US military "backs" the dollar. And indeed, the US Deep State and its Military Industrial Corporatist alliance represents a huge investment in strategic worldwide military deployment. That investment is an asset, and it does in part back the dollar. There are other factors, that are considered in the foreign exchange marketplace, and there are varying opinions as to which factors bear such weight upon the prime factor : relative changes in purchasing power.

As we have discussed before, usage is a considerable factor in determining a currency's relative purchasing power, which in turn supports further usage, in a circular fashion. In times past, there were set fundamentals that established relative fiat currency exchange value: the country's stability, its industrial base, trade practices and metrics, population demographics and economic condition, debt to GDP, and so on.

As our real world has progressed into a world of derivative statistic and valuation, through the rise of financialization, those fundamental factors have evolved to include other factors that are brought to bear upon a modern digital currency's backing.

Does the depth of a currency in global derivative positions act as a form of backing? This is a factor which did not exist prior to the existence of derivatives. Does that depth not guarantee further usage, and that further usage not create greater depth? Does the currency function successfully as a systemic weapon against other currency issuers? Again, relatively recent dollar era phenomena.

But there is an incredibly powerful, hugely overlooked factor which begins only around 2008, which backs the US dollar. I will tell you now that it is the US Government's control over its people which gives the US dollar the largest share of "asset backing" of any other factor under consideration - in the FX market and otherwise.

When the US Government publicly bailed out the global banking system and made the American people the guarantor of that bailout, an incredible precedent was set. It proved to the families that the issuer of the US Dollar could obligate its tax base to an unrepayable debt, and that tax base would neither understand, nor care enough about the consequences of that precedent ... to stand up and fight against the fraud and thievery that keeps the 99% in perpetual bondage, and the 1% in a risk free position to do as they please.

The issuer has proven to generational wealth that it can divert the attention of the tax base from the world's most egregious robbery, and do it again every so often, including to other middle classes who hold wealth, as it moves from country to country. And they will do so in equally powerful police states, combined with well developed welfare states, as the fiat wealth concept manages the debt slaves of any culture, keeping them pacified under the doctrine of "debt as wealth".

You will watch in amazement as China eventually "becomes" the USA in this regard. To the North, there is one proud people, who thrive on the adversity which shapes their strong cultural identity - who will be a thorn in the dollar's side - but they will be dealt with, as opportunity allows.

This modern state of affairs is an incredible asset which the global corporatist banking cartel (the BIS led global central banking system) has endowed upon the US Dollar - and it's rival issuers are part and parcel to that system. Until China, India and Russia's central banks (along with their strategic but smaller allied CBs) achieve a true Coup d'etat (either publicly - or more likely privately) and begin to act independently from BIS mandate, the world's middle classes will never have any enduring prosperity - only the fleeting type that comes with targeted booms, busts and the fraud and bailouts they enable.

Much more importantly ... that Coup will NEVER HAPPEN as long as the American people agree to the dollar contract they are so deeply sworn to. Americans have been taught to accept the double standard they now live by. They can default on debt and lose everything they own, but their lenders can never default - they will be bailed out by whatever wealth remains. There is no other society on earth who have been so culturally conditioned to accept slavery and socialism as the generation of Americans whose OBEDIENCE backs the dollar today. That compliance, coupled with contempt for the wealth of their fellow man, and the social justice herd mentality, makes the family's smile with exceeding confidence ... that this dollar empire can milk much more middle class wealth across the globe as it spreads its "debt as wealth" religion even further into systemic entrenchment.

And this Trump fellow. He and Wilbur are doing well to earn the trust of generational wealth.

An unexpected wildcard can always be drawn, including an international war. But the Roacheforque's will profit from war as well - nonetheless, and just the same. Generational wealth aways profits from the spread of global corporatism, as they are both the authors and benefactors of it.

This we learn ... from the flower of understanding.

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[Aug 03, 2018] The "accounting view" of money: money as equity

Aug 03, 2018 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

Marco Saba , August 2, 2018 at 6:11 pm

It seems that bad debts can be composed with fake liabilities, here:
The "accounting view" of money: money as equity (Part I)
http://blogs.worldbank.org/allaboutfinance/node/916
The "accounting view" of money: money as equity (Part II)
http://blogs.worldbank.org/allaboutfinance/node/917
The "accounting view" of money: money as equity (Part III)
http://blogs.worldbank.org/allaboutfinance/node/918

[Jul 28, 2018] Putin The US Is Making A Big Mistake By Weaponizing The Dollar Zero Hedge

Jul 28, 2018 | www.zerohedge.com

After the liquidation of its US Treasury holdings, surging gold reserves, and switching to a non-SWIFT payment system , Russian President Putin attempted to quell general concerns noting that "Russia isn't abandoning the dollar."

In a press conference this morning, the Russian president said his country doesn't plan to abandon holding reserves in U.S. dollars though he said that the risk of sanctions is prompting Russia to diversify its foreign currency assets.

"Russia isn't abandoning the dollar," Putin said in answer to a question about the sharp decline in its holdings of U.S. Treasuries in April and May.

"We need to minimize risks, we see what's happening with sanctions."

"As for our American partners and the restrictions they impose involving the dollar," he added,

"I think that is a major strategic mistake because they're undermining confidence in the dollar as a reserve currency."

Putin did however caution that the US is making a big mistake if it hopes to use the dollar as a political weapon:

" Regarding our American partners placing limitations, including those on dollar transactions, I believe is a big strategic mistake . By doing so, they are undermining the trust in the dollar as a reserve currency"

In this vein, Putin added that many countries are discussing the creation of new reserve currencies, noting that China's yuan is a potential reserve currency, but concluded:

"We will continue to use the US dollar unless the United States prevents us from doing so."

The Russian president also emphasized the need for other currencies in global trade and the emergence of new reserve currencies like the ruble.

Just last night we laid out the four major moves that Russia seems to be taking to de-dollarize so we suspect this comment by Putin is lipstick on that pig so that the rest of the world doesn't front-run him.

Additionally, President Putin said he's ready to hold a new summit with U.S. counterpart Donald Trump in either Moscow or Washington, praising him for sticking to his election promises to improve ties with Russia.

"One of President Trump's big pluses is that he strives to fulfill the promises he made to voters, to the American people," Putin told a press conference at the BRICS summit in Johannesburg.

"As a rule, after the elections some leaders tend to forget what they promised the people but not Trump."

Putin, who said he expects to meet Trump on the sidelines of the G-20


strannick -> BaBaBouy Fri, 07/27/2018 - 10:11 Permalink

Putin: "Russia isnt abandoning the dollar"

Russia's just selling all its US Treauries and then using the cash to buy gold.

"The first to sell is a rat. The last to sell is a fool"

beemasters -> strannick Fri, 07/27/2018 - 10:19 Permalink

"Regarding our American partners placing limitations, including those on dollar transactions, I believe is a big strategic mistake. "

It's been going on for a long time (with other weaker nations) and he is just voicing it now?

Brazen Heist II -> beemasters Fri, 07/27/2018 - 10:23 Permalink

The Anglo Zionist empire not only weaponizes the USD, but also "democracy" and "human rights".

The golden days of the 1990s where Uncle Scam could enjoy unrivalled power are gone. Like all greedy full spectrum empires, abusing unipolar power with wild abandon and arrogance is now starting to hurt.

Sandbox the Zionist infil traitors and take down the tentacles of the Deep State, and let America join the global polity of great nations in a new paradigm of peaceful coexistence, rather than following the directives of that small, paranoid tribe bent on full spectrum dominance.

One thing that makes me optimistic is that more people are becoming aware and are questioning the apparatus and narratives of the old world order. It was alot different 10 years ago, when I felt like I was a very small minority with a multipolar view, drowned out in a sea of denial.

Klassenfeind -> Brazen Heist II Fri, 07/27/2018 - 10:53 Permalink

As always, Putin is spot on!

Trump and his ZH crybabies whine on about how "unfairly the rest of the world has been treating the US" but they 'conveniently' forget that most of today's problems (wars, financial instability, fiat currency) originate from the US Reserve Currency Status and the Breton Woods system which the US has been using UNFAIRLY to it's advantage for Many DECADES in order to finance wars and manipulate the price of commodities.

But that's too difficult to grasp for most Trumptards... They're too busy screaming "sieg heil" for the Orange Jew!

Brazen Heist II -> Klassenfeind Fri, 07/27/2018 - 10:58 Permalink

Charles de Gaulle called that the exorbitant privilege

Bokkenrijder -> Brazen Heist II Fri, 07/27/2018 - 11:00 Permalink

These ZH Trump fanboys are the biggest idiots.

Really, you couldn't make this shit up;

*) They complain about foreign wars and the MIC, yet vote for someone who promised to INCREASE the Pentagon's already enormous budget

*) The complain about "the Jews," "Israhell," and "the ZOG," and yet they vote for someone who is in bed with Israel and Netanyahu and has a Jewish-American lawyer who fucks him over

*) They complain about the "banksters," and yet they vote for someone who makes a Deep State Goldmanite (Mnuchin) his Treasure Secretary

*) They complain about The Deep State and The Swamp, and they vote for someone who hires Pompeo, Haspel and Bolton

*) They complain about the massive amounts of debt and the fiat currency system, and yet they vote for someone who calls himself "The King of Debt" and calls for a massive increase in military spending

I guess now the ZH Trumptards only have one 'weapon' left: downvotes!

Brazen Heist II -> Bokkenrijder Fri, 07/27/2018 - 11:11 Permalink

I'm not your classic fanboy of Trump, but he has to work with those cretins somehow, and not turn into a degenerate pedophile in the process. He was the lesser of two evils presented in the 2 party duopoly, sadly, that's what modern 'democracy' has become; a Hobson's choice.

So far, he's doing alright, given the circumstances, and everything stacked against him.

Klassenfeind -> Brazen Heist II Fri, 07/27/2018 - 11:13 Permalink

"He was the lesser of two evils presented in the 2 party duopoly,..."

I completely agree with that assessment, but what I fail to understand is how the supposedly "highly educated readers of ZH," can be so fucking stupid to blindly believe all the Trump bullshit.

Being the lesser of two evils is still not being very good I'm afraid, and being the lesser of two evils means that he still kinda sucks.

That is what we're witnessing every day: a stupid narcissistic idiot who can barely play 0,5D chess, let alone 4D chess...

Brazen Heist II -> Klassenfeind Fri, 07/27/2018 - 11:26 Permalink

The system that churns out leadership in America is fundamentally flawed and corrupted to the bone, yet once in a blue moon, an "insider outsider" as I like to call them, like Jackson, Kennedy and Trump, slips through. And that's when decades happen in a few years.

Money_for_Nothing -> Klassenfeind Fri, 07/27/2018 - 11:47 Permalink

Who blindly believes bs? Trump is provably the most honest politician since the invention of recording devices. Just having an uncontested birth certification and school records is a big head start. Who do you think would make your paycheck (subsidy?) go higher than President Trump. Trump is threatening a lot of people's sinecures and subsidies. Who wants to guarantee more NPR wannabee hacks a good paycheck?

Giant Meteor -> Klassenfeind Fri, 07/27/2018 - 12:05 Permalink

What a lot of folks seeem to overlook is that the lesser of two evils is still, wait for it, ... evil. This is a highly subjective measurement of course, the beauty of all that evil being in the minds eye, of the beholder ..

HardAssets -> Klassenfeind Fri, 07/27/2018 - 13:12 Permalink

'Stupid' ?, no I highly doubt that.

What do we have ? IMO the jury is still out on that one. I had hoped that President Trump would talk straight to the American people. Particularly in regards to the true state of the overall economy. But those of us who have tried to inform friends & family on these subjects have run up against that solid wall of denial. Most people don't want to hear the truth. They fight against it with everything they've got. Between the Deep State attacking Trump to maintain their privileges & power, and a dumbed down population aggressively in denial - the president has a Herculean challenge.

Scipio Africanuz -> Klassenfeind Fri, 07/27/2018 - 13:49 Permalink

Fine, we are Trump fan boyz and Putin fan boyz, and we'll believe whatever we choose to believe, for our own reasons, and we don't owe anyone a stinkin explanation why!

You can open your eyes, and see why we support, fight for, defend, and will keep fighting for Trump! He's the Hope that we can Change the vampirous system that's defenestrated everyone playing by the rules!

He's a narcissistic idiot who can barely play multidimensional chess? You don't say! Anyhow, even if he were, and he isn't, he's OUR narcissistic idiot who beat the living daylights, out of the prissy, elitist, wicked, and thieving a**holes arrayed against him!

So how come your folks couldn't win against a narcissistic idiot? Because your folks are the narcissistic idiots, who can't come to terms with the reality that Hope of True Change is here, and embodied in Trumpus Maximus Magnus!!

You don't like that he's a Maximux Magnus? Fine, you can suck my pinkie!...

Consuelo -> Brazen Heist II Fri, 07/27/2018 - 11:27 Permalink

+1

There is a clear battle going on and at 70+ years of age, I give President Trump a huge helping of credit just to deal with it all, without going insane in the process. One thing though... He had better corral the dirty-dealers around him, along with the hag and those involved from the previous administration, or it will eventually overwhelm him. Guaranteed.

Brazen Heist II -> Consuelo Fri, 07/27/2018 - 11:32 Permalink

Indeed, its a battle for the soul of America. The pedophiles, degenerates, Zionists, imperialists must not win. A purge is needed and coming. I hope he survives like Jackson, and doesn't go the way of Kennedy. In any case, he has a big following, but I fear a civil war type scenario is coming no matter what happens. The vitriol and partizanship is at toxic levels.

HardAssets -> Brazen Heist II Fri, 07/27/2018 - 13:24 Permalink

It's obvious that the NWO crowd weaponizes populations. Obummer wanted his internal force 'as well funded & equipped as the military '. And, theyve been working hard with their propaganda machine to overturn the American people's 2nd Amendment.

This is likely one of the most delicate & dangerous times in American history.

Vendetta -> Bokkenrijder Fri, 07/27/2018 - 12:32 Permalink

So let's see ... Hillary in conjunction with obama demonized Iran and Russia (Crimea... have you forgotten?) for years prior to trump ... overthrew Libya and stirred the pot in Syria via proxies ... and Bernie Sanders was against these wars AND against unfettered globalization ... all part and parcel of the neoconservative PNAC doctrine .... but trump trying to implement peace and diplomacy with Russia and North Korea is 'bad' ... but since at the same time he increases the budget for the MIC and he is 'bad' for doing so and he is pissing off our so-called 'trade partners' as manufacturing has essentially left the US ... so he is to pick a fight with the MIC internally to the nation on top of everything else including pissing of the globalist cretins in our so called intelligence (where are those WMDs) ... okie dokie ...

[Jul 14, 2018] Beyond Money

Notable quotes:
"... Kevin Shipp, former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officer, intelligence and counter terrorism expert, held several high-level positions in the CIA. His assignments included protective agent for the Director of the CIA, counterintelligence investigator searching for moles inside the CIA, overseas counter terrorism operations officer, internal security investigator, assistant team leader for the antiterrorism tactical assault team, chief of training for the CIA federal police force and polygraph examiner. Mr. Shipp was the senior program manager for the Department of State, Diplomatic Security, Anti-Terrorism Assistance global police training program. He is the recipient of two CIA Meritorious Unit Citations, three Exceptional Performance Awards and a Medallion for high risk overseas operations. Website/book: fortheloveoffreedom.net ..."
Jul 14, 2018 | beyondmoney.net

Fake News, Fake Money, How to Tell the Difference Posted on February 21, 2018 | Leave a comment Why is it so hard these days to tell fact from fiction? Who can be trusted to tell us what's really going on? Can the New York Times and Washington Post still be believed? And what about money? Can we still trust the dollar, the euro, the pound sterling? What supports national currencies, anyway? Is this Bitcoin thing real or fake money, and should I buy some?

Here's a compelling presentation by Andreas Antonopoulos, that addresses all of these questions. Antonopoulos is a technologist and entrepreneur and probably the most knowledgeable and insightful expert on bitcoin, blockchain technology and the profound changes that lie just ahead.

MUST WATCH!

https://www.youtube.com/embed/i_wOEL6dprg?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&autohide=2&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent

Here's the YouTube link: https://youtu.be/i_wOEL6dprg

Now take a deep dive into the political realities of our time by watching this presentation by CIA officer Kevin Shipp, in which he exposes the Shadow Government and the Deep State. If you question his credibility here is a brief bio from Information Clearing House:

Kevin Shipp, former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officer, intelligence and counter terrorism expert, held several high-level positions in the CIA. His assignments included protective agent for the Director of the CIA, counterintelligence investigator searching for moles inside the CIA, overseas counter terrorism operations officer, internal security investigator, assistant team leader for the antiterrorism tactical assault team, chief of training for the CIA federal police force and polygraph examiner. Mr. Shipp was the senior program manager for the Department of State, Diplomatic Security, Anti-Terrorism Assistance global police training program. He is the recipient of two CIA Meritorious Unit Citations, three Exceptional Performance Awards and a Medallion for high risk overseas operations. Website/book: fortheloveoffreedom.net

https://www.youtube.com/embed/rQouKi7xDpM?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&autohide=2&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent

Here's the YouTube link: https://youtu.be/rQouKi7xDpM

[Jul 04, 2018] Dollar Hegemony

Jul 04, 2018 | www.henryckliu.com
Dollar Hegemony

By
Henry C K Liu

(Originally published as [US Dollar Hegemony has to go] in AToL on April 11. 2002)


There is an economics-textbook myth that foreign-exchange rates are determined by supply and demand based on market fundamentals. Economics tends to dismiss socio-political factors that shape market fundamentals that affect supply and demand.

The current international finance architecture is based on the US dollar as the dominant reserve currency, which now accounts for 68 percent of global currency reserves, up from 51 percent a decade ago. Yet in 2000, the US share of global exports (US$781.1 billon out of a world total of $6.2 trillion) was only 12.3 percent and its share of global imports ($1.257 trillion out of a world total of $6.65 trillion) was 18.9 percent. World merchandise exports per capita amounted to $1,094 in 2000, while 30 percent of the world's population lived on less than $1 a day, about one-third of per capita export value.

Ever since 1971, when US president Richard Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard (at $35 per ounce) that had been agreed to at the Bretton Woods Conference at the end of World War II, the dollar has been a global monetary instrument that the United States, and only the United States, can produce by fiat. The dollar, now a fiat currency, is at a 16-year trade-weighted high despite record US current-account deficits and the status of the US as the leading debtor nation. The US national debt as of April 4 was $6.021 trillion against a gross domestic product (GDP) of $9 trillion.

World trade is now a game in which the US produces dollars and the rest of the world produces things that dollars can buy. The world's interlinked economies no longer trade to capture a comparative advantage; they compete in exports to capture needed dollars to service dollar-denominated foreign debts and to accumulate dollar reserves to sustain the exchange value of their domestic currencies. To prevent speculative and manipulative attacks on their currencies, the world's central banks must acquire and hold dollar reserves in corresponding amounts to their currencies in circulation. The higher the market pressure to devalue a particular currency, the more dollar reserves its central bank must hold. This creates a built-in support for a strong dollar that in turn forces the world's central banks to acquire and hold more dollar reserves, making it stronger. This phenomenon is known as dollar hegemony, which is created by the geopolitically constructed peculiarity that critical commodities, most notably oil, are denominated in dollars. Everyone accepts dollars because dollars can buy oil. The recycling of petro-dollars is the price the US has extracted from oil-producing countries for US tolerance of the oil-exporting cartel since 1973.

By definition, dollar reserves must be invested in US assets, creating a capital-accounts surplus for the US economy. Even after a year of sharp correction, US stock valuation is still at a 25-year high and trading at a 56 percent premium compared with emerging markets.

The Quantity Theory of Money is clearly at work. US assets are not growing at a pace on par with the growth of the quantity of dollars. US companies still respresent 56 percent of global market capitalization despite recent retrenchment in which entire sectors suffered some 80 percent a fall in value. The cumulative return of the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) from 1990 through 2001 was 281 percent, while the Morgan Stanley Capital International (MSCI) developed-country index posted a return of only 12.4 percent even without counting Japan. The MSCI emerging-market index posted a mere 7.7 percent return. The US capital-account surplus in turn finances the US trade deficit. Moreover, any asset, regardless of location, that is denominated in dollars is a US asset in essence. When oil is denominated in dollars through US state action and the dollar is a fiat currency, the US essentially owns the world's oil for free. And the more the US prints greenbacks, the higher the price of US assets will rise. Thus a strong-dollar policy gives the US a double win.

Historically, the processes of globalization has always been the result of state action, as opposed to the mere surrender of state sovereignty to market forces. Currency monopoly of course is the most fundamental trade restraint by one single government. Adam Smith published Wealth of Nations in 1776, the year of US independence. By the time the constitution was framed 11 years later, the US founding fathers were deeply influenced by Smith's ideas, which constituted a reasoned abhorrence of trade monopoly and government policy in restricting trade. What Smith abhorred most was a policy known as mercantilism, which was practiced by all the major powers of the time. It is necessary to bear in mind that Smith's notion of the limitation of government action was exclusively related to mercantilist issues of trade restraint. Smith never advocated government tolerance of trade restraint, whether by big business monopolies or by other governments.

A central aim of mercantilism was to ensure that a nation's exports remained higher in value than its imports, the surplus in that era being paid only in specie money (gold-backed as opposed to fiat money). This trade surplus in gold permitted the surplus country, such as England, to invest in more factories to manufacture more for export, thus bringing home more gold. The importing regions, such as the American colonies, not only found the gold reserves backing their currency depleted, causing free-fall devaluation (not unlike that faced today by many emerging-economy currencies), but also wanting in surplus capital for building factories to produce for export. So despite plentiful iron ore in America, only pig iron was exported to England in return for English finished iron goods.

In 1795, when the Americans began finally to wake up to their disadvantaged trade relationship and began to raise European (mostly French and Dutch) capital to start a manufacturing industry, England decreed the Iron Act, forbidding the manufacture of iron goods in America, which caused great dissatisfaction among the prospering colonials. Smith favored an opposite government policy toward promoting domestic economic production and free foreign trade, a policy that came to be known as "laissez faire" (because the English, having nothing to do with such heretical ideas, refuse to give it an English name). Laissez faire, notwithstanding its literal meaning of "leave alone", meant nothing of the sort. It meant an activist government policy to counteract mercantilism. Neo-liberal free-market economists are just bad historians, among their other defective characteristics, when they propagandize "laissez faire" as no government interference in trade affairs.

A strong-dollar policy is in the US national interest because it keeps US inflation low through low-cost imports and it makes US assets expensive for foreign investors. This arrangement, which Federal Reserve Board chairman Alan Greenspan proudly calls US financial hegemony in congressional testimony, has kept the US economy booming in the face of recurrent financial crises in the rest of the world. It has distorted globalization into a "race to the bottom" process of exploiting the lowest labor costs and the highest environmental abuse worldwide to produce items and produce for export to US markets in a quest for the almighty dollar, which has not been backed by gold since 1971, nor by economic fundamentals for more than a decade. The adverse effect of this type of globalization on the developing economies are obvious. It robs them of the meager fruits of their exports and keeps their domestic economies starved for capital, as all surplus dollars must be reinvested in US treasuries to prevent the collapse of their own domestic currencies.

The adverse effect of this type of globalization on the US economy is also becoming clear. In order to act as consumer of last resort for the whole world, the US economy has been pushed into a debt bubble that thrives on conspicuous consumption and fraudulent accounting. The unsustainable and irrational rise of US equity prices, unsupported by revenue or profit, had merely been a devaluation of the dollar. Ironically, the current fall in US equity prices reflects a trend to an even stronger dollar, as it can buy more deflated shares.

The world economy, through technological progress and non-regulated markets, has entered a stage of overcapacity in which the management of aggregate demand is the obvious solution. Yet we have a situation in which the people producing the goods cannot afford to buy them and the people receiving the profit from goods production cannot consume more of these goods. The size of the US market, large as it is, is insufficient to absorb the continuous growth of the world's new productive power. For the world economy to grow, the whole population of the world needs to be allowed to participate with its fair share of consumption. Yet economic and monetary policy makers continue to view full employment and rising fair wages as the direct cause of inflation, which is deemed a threat to sound money.

The Keynesian starting point is that full employment is the basis of good economics. It is through full employment at fair wages that all other economic inefficiencies can best be handled, through an accommodating monetary policy. Say's Law (supply creates its own demand) turns this principle upside down with its bias toward supply/production. Monetarists in support of Say's Law thus develop a phobia against inflation, claiming unemployment to be a necessary tool for fighting inflation and that in the long run, sound money produces the highest possible employment level. They call that level a "natural" rate of unemployment, the technical term being NAIRU (non-accelerating inflation rate of unemployment).

It is hard to see how sound money can ever lead to full employment when unemployment is necessary to maintain sound money. Within limits and within reason, unemployment hurts people and inflation hurts money. And if money exists to serve people, then the choice becomes obvious. Without global full employment, the theory of comparative advantage in world trade is merely Say's Law internationalized.

No single economy can profit for long at the expense of the rest of an interdependent world. There is an urgent need to restructure the global finance architecture to return to exchange rates based on purchasing-power parity, and to reorient the world trading system toward true comparative advantage based on global full employment with rising wages and living standards. The key starting point is to focus on the hegemony of the dollar.

To save the world from the path of impending disaster, we must:

# promote an awareness among policy makers globally that excessive dependence on exports merely to service dollar debt is self-destructive to any economy;

# promote a new global finance architecture away from a dollar hegemony that forces the world to export not only goods but also dollar earnings from trade to the US;

# promote the application of the State Theory of Money (which asserts that the value of money is ultimately backed by a government's authority to levy taxes) to provide needed domestic credit for sound economic development and to free developing economies from the tyranny of dependence on foreign capital;

# restructure international economic relations toward aggregate demand management away from the current overemphasis on predatory supply expansion through redundant competition; and restructure world trade toward true comparative advantage in the context of global full employment and global wage and environmental standards.

This is easier done than imagained. The starting point is for the major exporting nations each to unilaterally require that all its exports be payable only in its currency, so that the global finance architecture will turn into a multi-currency regime overnight. There would be no need for reserve currencies and exchange rates would reflect market fundamentals of world trade.

As for aggregate demand management, Asia leads the world in both overcapacity and underconsumption. It is high time for Asia to realize the potential of its market power. If the people of Asia are to be compensated fairly for their labor, the global economy will see its fastest growth ever.

[Jun 10, 2018] The Battle for Money Has Begun naked capitalism

Notable quotes:
"... If Money=Debt, the battle over money can only be won by individuals wisely choosing whom they become indebted too. As the wise Michael Hudson points out, "Debts that can't be paid, won't be paid." ..."
"... Money is the creation of the elite to control the rest of the masses. It screws the rest of the masses by constraining what they can get their hands on while the elite can get their hands on anything they want. ..."
"... IMO the point of the article was to hint that objections (or refusal to engage with) MMT is largely political in nature. ..."
"... Skippy said it above: these are likely bad faith actors who disguise their classism and political desires with talk of "positive money" and the like. Debate clubs won't win this one. ..."
"... As I understand it, MMT is simply a more honest way of explaining the current reality, the problem being that the 1% would like to keep that a secret so that money is only created for the things that they can profit from, like war. ..."
"... MMT necessarily requires the exorbitant privilege of having the US dollar accounting for 60% of world trade & financial transactions with the US economy representing only 20% of world GDP. ..."
"... The Entrepreneurial State ..."
"... money and credit are used almost entirely for speculation, usury, and rent extraction ..."
"... In a normal economy, government spending is financed by taxes and borrowing, meaning that no new spending power has been created, as IS the case with new bank loans. ..."
"... You can fool part of the people all of the time, and all of the people part of the time. ..."
"... handing all credit creation to the central banks is not only technically impossible in a modern economy, it's a dangerous folly ..."
"... Wealth, Virtual Wealth and Debt, 2nd edition. ..."
"... The Order of Time ..."
"... "The debts are owed to government banks. A government can do what the U.S. can't do. The government can forgive debts, at least those that are owed to itself, without creating a political backlash. If a viable corporation has run up too much debt, the government can forgive it. This is better than letting the debt close down a factory or force it be sold to a predatory asset management firm as occurs in the United States. That is the advantage of having public credit and why credit should be public. That's how it was in Babylonia. Rulers were able to cancel debts all the time in the 3rd millennium and 2nd millennium BC, because most debts were owed to the palace or the temples. Rulers were cancelling debts owed to themselves. ..."
"... China can cancel business debt owed to itself. It can proclaim a clean slate. It can minimize debt service to whatever it chooses. But imagine if Chase Manhattan and Goldman Sachs are let in. It would be much harder for the government to raise real estate taxes leading to defaults on the banks. It could save the occupants by making new loans to those who default – based on lower land prices. ..."
"... Well, you can imagine the international furor that would erupt. Trump would threaten to atom bomb Peking and Shanghai to save his constituency. His constituency and that of the Democrats are the same: Wall Street and the One Percent. So China may lose its ability to write down debts if it lets in foreign banks." ..."
"... that this is a Chicago School / Friedmanesque monetary policy is made clear by Positive Money ..."
"... It seems there are greater similarities between China and the US than may be visible at first glance. China builds real estate for a shrinking population, invests for an over-indebted client (the US, which even insists on a drastic reduction of the bilateral trade deficit) and finances all this with money it does not have ..."
Jun 10, 2018 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

Disturbed Voter , June 8, 2018 at 6:30 am

Perhaps the cost of the 2008/2009 bailout was too high? And I don't mean quantitively. It seems modern man has no sense of the qualitative.

Odysseus , June 8, 2018 at 5:22 pm

The same money that went into TARP would have bought a whole lot of nonperforming mortgages. You wouldn't have needed a large bailout if the money actually made it's way to main street.

PlutoniumKun , June 8, 2018 at 6:32 am

Slightly off-topic, but if its true that this is a right wing proposal using naïve left/Green supporters to give a progressive fig leaf, it wouldn't be the first time this has happened. You can see the same phenomenon with Brexit, where many supposed left wingers have often bought unthinkingly into many right/libertarian memes about 'freedom' from the EU. The core reason they could do this is the effective abandonment by the left of arguments about money and capital to the conservative and libertarian right from the 1980's onward.

One of the many reasons I love NC so much is that it has tried to fill the gap left by so much of the mainstream left and much of the Greens in analysing economics issues in forensic technical detail. Articles like this are absolutely invaluable in building up a proper intellectual program in understanding the central importance of macroeconomics in building a fairer society.

Watt4Bob , June 8, 2018 at 8:08 am

God, country, apple pie, balanced budget, freedom, democracy, pay-as-you-go, ingredients in the hash of right/libertarian memes, all supposedly 'common sense' but actually nonsense, spread thick, intended to distract us while our ruling class steals everything not tied down.

I think the left saw its audience washed away by a tidal wave of this clever, well-funded nonsense, so they stopped arguing about money and capital because they found it embarrassing to be caught talking to themselves.

Of course back in the 1970s, much of the working-class had was doing well enough that they thought the argument about money had been settled, and in their favor. Little did they know that their 'betters' were planning on clawing-back every penny of wealth that they'd managed to accumulate in the post-war years.

So here we are, the working class that was formerly convinced that anyone could live well if they just worked hard, are finding that you can tug on your boot-straps with all your might, and get no where.

Morty , June 9, 2018 at 12:18 pm

I think you're right in that the wrong narrative is now dominant.

I don't think this was done intentionally – I think the people pulling the strings don't know for sure what will happen, either.

The 'common sense' you mention is the best explanation most people have available. They look at macroeconomics through the lens of their own household budget. Of course a balanced budget responsible application of money makes sense Most people don't have a money printer in their basement.

Norb , June 8, 2018 at 7:27 am

The battle is for the soul of humanity. A leadership that is working toward reducing inequality and injustice in the world will adopt policies reflecting a more positive outlook on the human condition. Those implementing austerity revile the masses of humanity, wether stated or not. The masses are to be controlled, not enlightened or cared for.

The West has gained supremacy in the world by using the strategy of Divide and Conquer. This thought process is so engrained in the psyche, that it heavily influences every form of problem solving by using outright war and financial oppression as primary tools to achieve these ends.

There would need to be a fundamental shift in thinking from Western leadership in order to bring about a change that would focus on wellbeing over profit, which does not seem forthcoming.

If Money=Debt, the battle over money can only be won by individuals wisely choosing whom they become indebted too. As the wise Michael Hudson points out, "Debts that can't be paid, won't be paid."

The main problem I see is the definition of what "Winning" would be. The definition determines the policy.

Summer , June 8, 2018 at 1:54 pm

"There would need to be a fundamental shift in thinking from Western leadership in order to bring about a change that would focus on wellbeing over profit, which does not seem forthcoming."

Akin to a religious conversion.

DHG , June 8, 2018 at 3:47 pm

Money is the creation of the elite to control the rest of the masses. It screws the rest of the masses by constraining what they can get their hands on while the elite can get their hands on anything they want. The tipping point will be when there are sufficient numbers who understand money isnt necessary to live and have nice things, it actually exists to deprive them of such.

Paul L. , June 8, 2018 at 7:58 pm

What is your alternative?

Watt4Bob , June 8, 2018 at 7:34 am

We've been fighting this same 'war' for a very long time.

Everybody now just has to make up their mind. Is money money or isn't money money. Everybody who earns it and spends it every day in order to live knows that money is money, anybody who votes it to be gathered in as taxes knows money is not money. That is what makes everybody go crazy. -Gertrude Stein – All About Money

As far as I can tell, about 1% of us believe that money is not money, and the rest of us believe that money is money.

Most of us believe that money is money because as Gertrude Stein said: Everybody who earns it and spends it every day in order to live knows that money is money

So here's the problem: the 1% of the people, the ones who believe that money is not money, are in charge of everything.

It's not natural that so few people should be in charge of so much, and that they should be in charge of 'everything' is truly crazy. (Please excuse the slight digression)

The people who are in charge of everything believe that it's right, proper, indeed 'natural' that they be in charge of everything because they believe that no one could do as good a job of being in charge of everything because they think they are smarter than everybody else.

The reason that the 1% of people believe they are smarter than everybody else is rooted largely in what they believe is their self-evident, superior understanding of money; that is to say, the understanding that money is not money.

The trouble is, the difference between the 1%'s understanding of money, and the common man's understanding of money is not evidence of the 1%'s superior intellect, so much as of their lack of a moral compass and their ability to rationalize the depraved indifference they show to their fellow man.

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perpetualWAR , June 8, 2018 at 10:32 am

I don't believe money is money. Pretty certain I am in the 99%. "Money" or currency says right on the face that it is a debt instrument.

Samuel Conner , June 8, 2018 at 7:54 am

Maybe this thought is callous, but perhaps it would be useful to have a real-world demonstration that this is a bad idea. How systemically important is the Swiss economy? US abandoned its monetarist "quantity of reserves" experiment after a relatively short time. Again, it sounds callous, but perhaps a year or two of distress in a small test environment

(that is starting from a pretty good place and has a good social safety net

http://siteresources.worldbank.org/SAFETYNETSANDTRANSFERS/Resources/281945-1124119303499/SSNPrimerNote25.pdf

)

would be helpful to the world at large in terms of deprecating a bad idea. Perhaps MMT will be the last approach standing?

Could it be that Wolf's "we need experiments" rhetoric is actually opposed to "positive money", but he recognizes that the idea won't go away until it is badly spanked? Even if not, maybe there is something to the idea that experimentation could be used to distinguish bad ideas from less bad (the good ideas won't be tested, I reckon, until all the various flavors of "bad" have been tried and rejected).

TroyMcClure , June 8, 2018 at 8:11 am

IMO the point of the article was to hint that objections (or refusal to engage with) MMT is largely political in nature. See Marriner Eccles and his observation regarding the political enemies of full employment.

Skippy said it above: these are likely bad faith actors who disguise their classism and political desires with talk of "positive money" and the like. Debate clubs won't win this one.

If the Swiss go through with it and it inevitably fails there will always be an excuse. They didn't do positive money "hard enough" or whatever.

liam , June 8, 2018 at 10:22 am

What I'd like to know is if the Swiss go through with it and it fails, is there anything other than central bank independence that needs to be changed? Fundamentally it's still fiat, operating within a democracy. Does it not come down to who decides how much and for what purpose?

Maybe I'm missing something, but it strikes me as the elites getting their revenge in first. There go my people and all that. Maybe I am missing it.

Watt4Bob , June 8, 2018 at 8:18 am

the good ideas won't be tested, I reckon, until all the various flavors of "bad" have been tried and rejected.

So, you don't think current conditions are convincing enough?

As for me, I'm more than convinced, that left to themselves, our elites have an endless bag of bad ideas, and every one of them results in their further enrichment at our expense.

Samuel Conner , June 8, 2018 at 9:57 am

I'm convinced; have been persuaded that MMT is the right way to think about "money" since shortly after I encountered it almost a decade ago.

As I understand it, this is a referendum. If the people don't like the outcome, they presumably would have power to reverse it. Throw the bastards out and replace with new bastards who will try something different.

Watt4Bob , June 8, 2018 at 1:19 pm

As I understand it, MMT is simply a more honest way of explaining the current reality, the problem being that the 1% would like to keep that a secret so that money is only created for the things that they can profit from, like war.

So the issue is that since enough money can be created for the needs of the rest of us, why is that not happening?

It would appear to me that almost any efforts by the 1% to create a 'new' plan is in reality, an effort to make sure that the 99% never reap any advantage even if we were to unanimously come to understand the MMT is really the most realistic perspective.

It's almost as if the 1% has decided to change the rules because the rest of us are starting to understand that there is no technical reason we can't finance a more equitable economy.

MyLessThanPrimeBeef , June 8, 2018 at 2:03 pm

It's good to explain the current reality more honestly.

Even more honestly would be to explain that reality, which is a man-made system, doesn't have to be that way, unlike scientific explanations, for example, one for how gravity works. That particular physics explanation comes with the understanding that we can't change how gravity works.

The word 'theory' in the sense most people with more than 10 years of education associate with it is that

1. You will fail to advance to the next grade, or the next class if you don't understand it.
2. If you don't understand it, you are under pressure to show you agree with the theory, lest you fail the exam.
3. The reality described by the theory is unalterable, which is often the case with natural science theories, but not really the case with social/economic/political theories, unless they deal with human nature, which is hard to change.

If I say there is a theory to explain that on Mars, you drive on the right side of the road on odd-numbered days, and on the left side on even-numbered days, you would say, I appreciate the clear explanation of your wonderful theory, but I don't like it, I don't like how that system is designed. And I want to change it!!!!!!!!!!!!

bruce wilder , June 8, 2018 at 7:03 pm

Yesterday, I watched one of many Mark Blyth videos on YouTube where he was talking about why people hold on to stupid economic ideas. He offered a variety of interesting hypotheses, most of which were not necessarily mutually exclusive.

Even a theory that fails basic tests of correspondence with reality -- neoclassical economics being the prime example -- may prove to be a reliable means of coordinating behavior on a huge scale. That we indoctrinate people in colleges and business schools in neoclassical economics has been the foundation for neoliberal politics; even if the theory is largely rubbish by any scientific standard, the rhetorical engine is easy to operate once you have a few basic concepts down. And, immunity to evidence or critical reason may actually be politically advantageous.

Econ 101 is taught as a dogma. The student is under pressure to learn the answers for the exam, as you say. All the rhetorical tropes -- not just deficit hysteria, but regulatory burdens, tax incentives, "free markets" (you see many actual markets? no, I didn't think so) and on and on -- are as easy to recite mindlessly as it is to ride a bicycle.

We have an ideology that prevents thinking or even seeing, collectively.

Paul L. , June 8, 2018 at 8:34 pm

Well, your wish has been answered – about 160 years ago. Lincoln's issuance of Greenback's allowed the Union Army to exist. No borrowing, no MMT debt incurred.

Alejandro , June 9, 2018 at 1:06 pm

Why were they accepted as payment?

Yves Smith Post author , June 9, 2018 at 9:43 pm

"MMT debt" is a non-sequitur..

MMT experts point out regularly that the Federal government spends out of nothing. Issuing bonds is a political holdover from the Gold Standard era, but separately, those bonds do have some use because a lot of investors like holding a risk free asset.

The government spends by the Fed debiting the Treasury's account. That's it.

We don't go around worrying about issuing bonds to pay for the next bombing run in the Middle East. The US has all sort of official off budget activity as well as unofficial (why do you think the DoD is not able to account for $21 trillion of spending over time? No one points out this $21 trillion mystery is proof the USG actually runs on MMT principles).

Older & Wiser , June 9, 2018 at 10:58 pm

MMT necessarily requires the exorbitant privilege of having the US dollar accounting for 60% of world trade & financial transactions with the US economy representing only 20% of world GDP.

Such impunity is changing as we speak so for that reason only (there are others) MMT should soon find itself non-viable.

Yves Smith Post author , June 10, 2018 at 1:08 am

That is not correct. Any government that issues its own currency is a sovereign currency issuer and operates on MMT principles. Canada, Japan, England, Australia, New Zealand .the constraint on their ability to run deficits is inflation. They will never go bankrupt in their own currencies. They can create too much inflation.

Adam1 , June 8, 2018 at 8:17 am

I have the same reaction to Positive Money ideas as I do to someone who talks about "parallel currencies". They don't understand money, banking and central banking.

While I agree whole heartedly with Clive that establishing the mini-bot currency is subject to the law of un-intended consequences and would no doubtedly have a bumpy start and might not even survive; but it's just another currency. Yes it would likely be subject to a discount versus the Euro, but so what. From a banking perspective there is nothing magical about state money or central bank money. These are the dominate means of clearing and settling payments today, but that's because it's currently cheaper, easier and less risky. But banking predates central banks by at least one or two hundred years (if not more). Thinking that if you put an iron fist on the usage of state/central bank money is going to stop banking only shows you don't understand banking. Most economies already have dual currencies – state money and bank money – but nobody thinks of them that way because they trade one for one. But locking the banking system out of using state money to clear and settle payments created by lending only forces the banking system to find a new means of acquiring liabilities (I'd suspect they get called something other than "deposits" of course) and clearing and settling payments. It wouldn't happen overnight but it most certainly would happen – there's too much "money" to be made.

Paul L. , June 8, 2018 at 8:36 pm

"Most economies already have dual currencies – state money and bank money" Give me the ratio please. Other than feeding the parking meter or doing your laundry what else do you use state money for?

Alejando , June 9, 2018 at 1:10 pm

Paying taxes. Unpaid parking tickets are debts, no borrowing involved.

voteforno6 , June 8, 2018 at 8:40 am

It's not exactly the gold standard, but it would have the same impact, I think. You have to give them credit, though – they keep finding new ways to dress up this very old idea.

OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL , June 8, 2018 at 7:16 pm

Hard to get to a new answer if you don't even start with the right question.
Wolf asserts his obvious and unquestionable truth: "Money is debt".

Really?

J. P. Morgan didn't think so. When he was asked:

"But the basis of banking is credit, is it not?" , Morgan replied:
"Not always. That is an evidence of banking, but it is not the money itself. Money is gold, and nothing else" .

Ah yes, the shiny rare metal that served mankind as money for millennia.
I have a gold coin in my hand. I can exchange it for goods and services. But I can't for the life of me figure out whose debt it is.

And no less than The Maestro (Alan Greenspan) opined the following last month:

"The gold standard was operating at its peak in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, a period of extraordinary global prosperity, characterised by firming productivity growth and very little inflation.

But today, there is a widespread view that the 19th century gold standard didn't work. I think that's like wearing the wrong size shoes and saying the shoes are uncomfortable! It wasn't the gold standard that failed; it was politics. World War I disabled the fixed exchange rate parities and no country wanted to be exposed to the humiliation of having a lesser exchange rate against the US dollar than it enjoyed in 1913.

Britain, for example, chose to return to the gold standard in 1925 at the same exchange rate it had in 1913 relative to the US dollar (US$4.86 per pound sterling). That was a monumental error by Winston Churchill, then Chancellor of the Exchequer. It induced a severe deflation for Britain in the late 1920s, and the Bank of England had to default in 1931. It wasn't the gold standard that wasn't functioning; it was these pre-war parities that didn't work.

Today, going back on to the gold standard would be perceived as an act of desperation. But if the gold standard were in place today we would not have reached the situation in which we now find ourselves. We would never have reached this position of extreme indebtedness were we on the gold standard, because the gold standard is a way of ensuring that fiscal policy never gets out of line."

So let's start with a simpler definition of money: "Money stores labor so it can be transported across space and time" .

I grew some wheat, and want to store my wheat-labor so I can use it later, or spend it somewhere that is nowhere near my wheat pile.

But this points out why money that took no labor to produce cannot reliably store labor. Our system materializes money from thin air. Which is precisely the point of gold: it takes alot of labor to produce, so it has reliably stored labor for centuries. In A.D. 250 if I wanted a good-quality men's costume (toga, sash, sandals) the cost was one ounce of gold. Today one ounce of gold is +/-$1300, probably enough for a pretty good suit and pair of shoes. That fact is incredible: every other currency, money, government, and country have come and gone in the interim but gold reliably stored labor across the ages.

Cue the haters: "But gold money allows deadly deflation!!!". Yes, that scourge, when people benefit from rising productivity (lower costs of goods and services) in what used to be termed "Progress". Instead we're supposed to love being on a debt treadmill where everything costs more every year, on purpose .

https://mises.org/library/deflating-deflation-myth

Free your mind.

OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL , June 8, 2018 at 7:21 pm

Just to be clear, I'm not arguing that credit should somehow be abolished. Credit is critical, and hence so is banking. But separating money and credit would mean that every banking crisis (extending too much credit) is not automatically also a monetary crisis, affecting everyone, including people who had nothing to do with extending or accepting too much debt.

Paul L. , June 8, 2018 at 8:39 pm

Yes, you are correct. No one in the monetary reform movement wants to abolish credit – an agreement between two entities – but to have that "credit" backed by the US government as real money – what a racket!

skippy , June 9, 2018 at 3:02 am

Sigh no such thingy as "real" money, same issue with using terms like "natural" as a quantifier.

This also applies to say pods above statement about "freeing the mind", especially when referencing Mises.org or other AET affiliates.

The Rev Kev , June 8, 2018 at 8:48 pm

Of course it should be noted that if you dig up a gold coin from two thousand years ago or even older, it still has value just for its metal content alone. It still holds value. This is never true of fiat currencies. In fact, it had never occurred to me before, but when you think about it – the history of money over the past century has been to get actual gold, gold coins, gold certificates, silver coins, etc. out of the hands of the average people and to give them pieces of paper and now plastic as substitutes. Even the coins in circulation today are only cheap remnants of coins of earlier eras that held value in itself. I would call that a remarkable achievement.

skippy , June 9, 2018 at 3:13 am

Uh .

I think you should avail yourself wrt the history of gold and how humans viewed it over time, then again you could look at say South America from an anthro observation and the social changes that occurred between Jade and Gold eras.

As far as value goes that is determined at the moment of price taking which can get blurry over time and space.

Gold was used as religious iconography for a reason imo.

Just from the stand point that gold was in one anthropological observation – a flec of gold to equal weight of wheat means the gold got its "value" from the wheat and had nothing to do with some concept of gold having intrinsic value.

The Rev Kev , June 9, 2018 at 10:51 pm

Not particularly in love with gold nor am I a gold bug. My own particular prejudice is that any money system needs an anchor that will set some sort of boundaries to its growth. Something that will not blow through the physical laws of natural growth and will acknowledge that resources can and will be exhausted by limitless credit and growth. Personally I don't care if it is gold or Electrum or Latinum or even Tribbles so long as it is something.

skippy , June 9, 2018 at 11:56 pm

Yet MMT clearly states that growth is restricted to resources full stop. So I don't understand your issues with anchor points, its right there in black and white.

Look I think there is a huge difference between informal credit [Greaber] and formal credit [institutional] and the risk factors that they present. This is also complicated by not all economies are the same e.g. steady state. In facilitating up lift [social cohesion with benefits of currant knowlage] vs putting some arbitrary limit on credit because it suits the perspective of those already with claims on wealth.

skippy , June 10, 2018 at 12:43 am

In addition I would proffer that MMT is not supply side dependent, just the opposite. Economics would be much more regional in reference to resources and how that relates to its populations needs, especially considering the democratic governance of those finite resources without making money the linchpin to how distribution is afforded.

Older & Wiser , June 8, 2018 at 9:03 pm

OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL
How dare you submit such irreverent goldbuggery ?
Your line of thought is not politically correct Sir.
Something for nothing is easier to sell and to live by, don´t you know ? as long as it lasts.
Problem is ( as HAL would say ? ) the 50 years are almost through, so it just can´t last much longer no matter how much we pussyfoot around reality.

Plenue , June 10, 2018 at 1:04 am

It has nothing to do with being 'politically incorrect'. It has to do with goldbuggery being completely ignorant of actual history and facts. It ascribes to gold attributes which it never truly had even in the West, much less globally.

Some examples from objective reality:

When the Conquistadors arrived in the 'New World', they discovered an entire continent filled with easily accessible gold and silver, and yet neither was treated by the natives as money. They were shiny trinkets. Money was cocoa beans and pieces of linen.

When the Vikings reached the Eastern Mediterranean, the Byzantines had a hard time getting them to accept gold as payment. Before that, the only 'precious' metal they had any interest in was silver.

Going eastward, in feudal Japan currency was based on rice, not precious metals. Gold and silver were used as representative tokens of large values of rice. The source of value wasn't felt to be the metal, it was what the metal represented.

If civilization were to end today, the most well off survivors aren't going to be the ones who stockpiled gold. It's going to be the ones who stockpiled food and water (and/or the weapons to protect/seize such stockpiles). Gold has exactly zero inherent value. It's a luxury item at best, in the same way fine art is. No one in the post-apocalyptic wasteland is going to be impressed by your lumps of heavy, soft metal.

There's plenty of information available from historians, archaeologists, and anthropologists (but emphatically not from mainstream economists) on the history of money. If you want to 'free your mind', you'd best start with one of these fields. Not some libertarian cesspit, where the 'intellectuals' are even more delusional than mainstream neoclassicals.

skippy , June 10, 2018 at 1:39 am

Concur.

Pespi , June 9, 2018 at 3:19 am

That all sounds very neat but is not true. Money is not a labor token, it is not a token of anything but an act of accounting.

templar99 , June 8, 2018 at 9:12 am

' Everybody needs money, that's why they call it money ' David Mamet ' Heist '

The Rev Kev , June 8, 2018 at 9:52 am

I'll probably get slammed here for this but to tell you the truth, I see no justification for the shape and character of the present money system in use around the world. In fact, I absolutely refuse to believe that There Is No Alternative. The present system is one that has evolved over the centuries and for the greater part was designed by those with wealth to either solidify or expand their wealth.
Yesterday, in a comment, I made the point that for an economic and financial system to work it has to be sustainable. Call that General Order Number One. But a survey of the present system shows a system that by its very nature is seeking to transfer the bulk majority of wealth to about 1% of the population while pushing about 90% of the population into a neo-feudal poverty. This is nothing short of self-destructive and is certainly not sustainable.
We tend to think of money as something permanent but the different currencies in existence today make up only a fraction of the currencies that have ever existed. All the rest have gone extinct. I am given to understand that when the US Federal Reserve meets, it is in a room whose walls are adorned with examples of these extinct currencies. In fact, I even own a few German Reichsmarks from the hyperinflation era of the early 1920s for an occaisional bit of perspective.
OK, maybe the Swiss referendum is being used, misused and abused but it is a sign of an arising discontent. It certainly surprises me that it was the Swiss as when I visited that country, they were the most conservative people that I have ever met as far as money was concerned. In any case, perhaps it is time that we all sat down and designed a money system from the ground up. Throw away the rule book and just take a pragmatic approach. Forget theories and justifications, just look for stuff that works.

JEHR , June 8, 2018 at 11:44 am

There is no need to "experiment" with other systems of money use: we just need to regulate the system we have but, unfortunately at present, we are in the midst of de-regulating everything–finance, environmental protections, healthcare, education, etc., and getting rid of other groups such as unions. The undermining of many (public) institutions is well on its way and I do not see it ending well. I think the rich have won this round just as they planned in the 1970's.

MyLessThanPrimeBeef , June 8, 2018 at 12:14 pm

We have to consider, think or experiment with other systems. The comment below by Anarcissie is a good start.

Anarcissie , June 8, 2018 at 11:53 am

I imagine you would want to start from value (a mental state of persons) and labor, things persons do to achieve stuff which they value. It would be convenient to have tokens which represented social agreement about value, valued stuff, and labor. The social agreement could be brought about by cooperative voluntary institutions ('credit unions') which would oversee and guarantee the issuance of tokens (debts) by members (persons). We already do this on a modest scale by writing checks, so it's not unheard-of.

If you want a system which doesn't just feed the elites, you have to create one which doesn't rely on institutions dominated by or entirely controlled by the elites, such as the government, the major corporations, large banks, and so on. You want something egalitarian, democratic, and cooperative. It's not impossible.

bruce wilder , June 8, 2018 at 6:46 pm

Indeed it is possible and has been done in the recent past.

A key insight behind credit unions, mutual insurance and savings and loans back in the day was that these institutions were loaning people their own money savings and should be run without assigning hotshot managers the dubious incentive of a profit-motive or talking up "innovation".

One of the things I object to in Richard Murphy's rhetoric and that of more careless MMT'ers is that they implicitly concede the premise that Money is usefully thought of as a quantitative thing, a pile of tokena circulating at some velocity. Financial intermediaries (and yes, Richard, they are intermediaries) do create "money" in the form of credit by matching ledger entries. For a savings and loan, which gives a mortgage to a depositor or just a checking account to a saver, this can be a key idea supporting mutual assistance in cooperative finance.

But, if you insist that the bank is "creating" a quantity of money that is then set loose to drive up house prices or some similar narrative scenario, I do not see that your storytelling is doing anyone any good.

Credit from institutions of cooperative finance -- shorn as they must be of the incentive toward usury and rent extraction -- is actually a very useful application of money, enabling people to take reasonable risks over their lifetimes. For example, to enable a young couple to form a household and buy a house and gradually build up equity in home ownership against later days. This is sensible and prosaic, a standard use of money to insure by letting a bank or similar institution help individuals or small businesses to transform the maturities of their assets and prospects, while certifying their credit. If your understanding of money does not encompass such prosaic ideas as leverage and portfolios or their application to improving the general welfare, then the "left" is up a creek without a paddle.

Paul L. , June 8, 2018 at 8:44 pm

"Financial intermediaries (and yes, Richard, they are intermediaries) do create "money" in the form of credit by matching ledger entries. "
That is NOT what is meant by the term,"intermediaries" here. The common belief is that banks merely take in a depositor's money and, as an intermediary, lend that money out. An intermediary, by definition, does not create anything. That is the accepted meaning of the term when discussing banking. You are free to use your own definition but it will lead to confusion.

bruce wilder , June 9, 2018 at 12:47 am

What is the accepted meaning of the term, "intermediary", when discussing banking?

I am unclear what definition you are referencing.

Yves Smith Post author , June 9, 2018 at 10:08 pm

You are incorrect as to how banking works, and you have also jalbroken moderation, which is grounds for banning, as is clearly stated in our Site Policies, which you did not bother to read.

Per your comments on banking, you are also engaging in agnotology, another violation of site Policies.

Banks do not intermediate. They do not lend out of existing savings. Their loans create new deposits. Not only has MMT demonstrated, and this has been confirmed empirically, but the Bank of England has endorsed this explanation as correct.

You are presenting the loanable funds fallacy, a pet idea of monetarists. It was first debunked by Keynes and later by Kaldor.

Your idea of "accepted meaning" is further confirmation you are way out of your depth here and are a textbook case of Dunning Kruger syndrome.

Anthony K Wikrent , June 8, 2018 at 9:59 am

The matter of who or what controls money is actually secondary to the matter of what money is used for. Positive Money correctly identifies the fact that under our present arrangements in the USA, UK, and most of the West, money and credit are used almost entirely for speculation, usury, and rent extraction (though they do not, so far as I know, use the terms). If "the people" somehow were able to gain control of money and credit, and money and credit continued to be used almost entirely for speculation, usury, and rent extraction, society and the people would see no net advance economically.

That's the simple overview. Allow me to lay out a couple scenarios to show why just solving the problem of who controls money and credit does not really address our most urgent problems.

For the first scenario, assume that it is right wing populists who have triumphed in the fight to seize control of money and credit. Recall that in the first and second iterations of the bank bailout proposals in USA, Congress was deluged by overwhelming public opposition to the bailout. But in the second iteration, the Democrats mostly folded, while on the Republican side, the closer you got to the Tea Party extreme, the stauncher the opposition to the bailout you found. So, under right-wing populist control, we would probably see prosecutions and imprisonment of banksters, which would likely have the intended effect of lessening rent extraction. But we would probably also see that right-wing populists are not much concerned about speculation and usury, so those would continue relatively unscathed.

More importantly, we could expect right-wing populist control to result in severe cutbacks to both government and private funding of scientific research, most especially on climate change. We would be hurried forward on our course toward climate disaster, not turned away from it.

For the second scenario, let us assume it is a left-wing populist surge that achieves control over money and credit. In this scenario, speculation and usury would be suppressed as well as rent extraction. On science, there would no doubt be a surge in funding for climate research. But I would greatly fear what left-wing populists might do to funding of space exploration and hard sciences such as the large Hadron collider at CERN. And what would happen to funding for military research programs like DARPA?

Can you imagine the implications of cutting those kinds of science programs? Try to think of doing without all the spinoffs from the NASA Apollo moon landing program and the original ARPAnet, which includes much of the capability of the miniaturized electronics in the computer, servers, modems, and routers you are now using.

The point is, that without restoring an understanding of republican (NOT capital R "R"epublican Party) statecraft, its focus on promoting the general welfare, and the understanding that promoting the general welfare ALWAYS involves identifying and promoting the leading edges of science and technology, any success in seizing control of money and credit away from bankers (whether private or central) does not necessarily result in victory. For an extended discussion of science and republicanism, see my The Higgs boson and the purpose of a republic .

MyLessThanPrimeBeef , June 8, 2018 at 10:17 am

There will always be right-wingers, left-wingers, progressives, imperialists, etc.

One or more of them will seize control.

It would seem, then, the first thing to do, is to work on human nature, and not discovering new devices for them (or us, ourselves), because we can not guarantee no harm to Nature will come from colliding high energy particles.

Lord Koos , June 8, 2018 at 2:17 pm

I don't really see the left as being anti-science, it seems to me that it's the right that wants to deny scientific findings such as climate change, etc. There are exceptions of course, such as new-age/anti-vaxers, chem-trail theorists, etc but they are a small minority, and I find it hard to envision a scenario where a leftist government would cut science funding. As it is now, many if not most scientific and technical advances have originated from what was originally military funding, including the internet we are using at this moment.

This is a model that needs to change IMHO, there is no reason that cutting-edge science has to be tied to the military, science could just as easily be funded for its own sake, without the pentagon getting the money first and then having the tech trickle down to the rest of us.

MyLessThanPrimeBeef , June 8, 2018 at 3:43 pm

I am trying to come up with some examples where technological advances were not induced or misused by warriors and/or libido, from the dawn of humanity till now.

Stone tools – misused for war.

Bronze/iron tools – the same.

The wheel – war chariots.

Writing – to lord over the illiterate

The steam engine – how the west was won with buffaloes going extinct.

Gun powder – war, and above.

The internet – surveillance and libido.

The smart phone – above.

Aspirin – that's all good .maybe the example I am looking for except I'm allergic to it.

Anthony K Wikrent , June 8, 2018 at 6:28 pm

The technology of smart phones originated almost entirely with DARPA -- see Mariana Mazzucato's The Entrepreneurial State

bruce wilder , June 8, 2018 at 6:28 pm

money and credit are used almost entirely for speculation, usury, and rent extraction

Certainly on the leading edge, that is what money and credit are used for, but "entirely"??? In the main, money remains the great lever of coordination in an economy of vastly distributed decision-making.

The forces of predation and fraud are seriously out-of-control and they use money for anti-social ends, protected by neoliberal ideology and the cluelessness of what passes for the political left. Like any normal bank robber, the banksters want the system of money to continue to work and it does continue to work, in the main, even as they play Jenga with the towering structures of finance.

Anthony K Wikrent , June 8, 2018 at 6:36 pm

Well, I did qualify it with "almost" : ). Still, in the late 1990s I found that there was around $60 (sixty dollars) of trading in financial markets (including futures and forex) for every one dollar of GDP. That compares to 1.5 to 1 in 1960. The ratio probably dropped in the aftermath of the 2007-2008 crashes, but I's be surprised if it has not surpassed 60 to 1 by now. Have mercy on me: I haven't looked at a BIS report for a few years now.

Paul L. , June 8, 2018 at 8:47 pm

Your first scenario is already in existence today, my friend. As far as the second scenario – what exactly is it that you have against democracy?

Ignacio , June 8, 2018 at 10:09 am

It is just intuitive that giving central bankers the monopoly for money creation is not a good idea

Paul L. , June 8, 2018 at 8:49 pm

So your solution is to keep it in the hands of the elite?! Please note that the "central bank" under the Vollgeld initiative is completely redefined, not a central bank at all but a government institution controlled by a democratic process.

Martin , June 9, 2018 at 12:38 am

Many banks around the world started out as state-owned and have been privatised.
I admit it is simplistic, but having a state-run not-for-profit bank being this "government institution controlled by a democratic process" has a lot of merit to me.
It would have lending guidelines to aid investment in productive endeavours, limit the risk, and have no part in the insane fringe financial transactions that brought about the GFC, and who know how many other things that have gone under the radar.
This brings all currency creation into a single place, so it needs transparency and a (proper) democratic governance.
There would probably be fewer jobs I admit, but many of these would be the top levels enjoying fat bonuses based on winning zero-sum games.
And as a final comment – should GDP include the transactions within the financial sector at all? Given the zEro-sum games involved, and the creation of losers as part of that, does it actually "produce" anything at aLL?

Yves Smith Post author , June 9, 2018 at 2:00 am

I hate to be a nay-sayer, but the reason there were once many state banks in the US and there is now only one is that they became cesspools of corruption. And having arm-wrestled with CalPERS for over four years, which is more transparent than a lot of places, good luck with getting transparency and good governance.

Jamie Walton , June 9, 2018 at 7:39 am

Good point Yves. My research revealed the same re. previous state banks.

Yves Smith Post author , June 9, 2018 at 8:24 am

Mind you, that does not mean they might not be worth trying, but the assumption that they can just be set up and will work just fine "because democracy" needs to be taken with a fistful of salt. There needs to be a ton of careful thought re governance and lots of checks (an inspector general with teeth at a minimum, we can see from CalPERS that boards are very easily captured).

Jamie Walton , June 9, 2018 at 9:52 am

Agreed. Could a public banking option run through the U.S. Post Office be a better approach (they have branches and staff everywhere already)?

Watt4Bob , June 9, 2018 at 3:56 pm

Bank of North Dakota has a fascinating history, being founded during the Progressive Era, when ND had a governor who was a member of the Nonpartisan League, a populist political party, and intended to save North Dakota's farmers and laborers from the predations of the big banks in Minneapolis and Chicago.

It remains the only state-owned bank in the country.

The populist
Nonpartisan League
remains the most successful third party in history, and had remarkable impact on politics in North Dakota and Minnesota. It merged with the Democratic Party in the 50s.

Yves Smith Post author , June 9, 2018 at 9:47 pm

Ahem, I acknowledged that. What you miss is that pretty much every other state had a state bank and they were shuttered because they became embarrassingly corrupt. The fact that past "state bank" experiments almost universally failed makes me leery of the naive view that they'll be hunky dory. They could be but the sort of cavalier attitude that they'll be inherently virtuous is the road to abuse and misconduct.

skippy , June 9, 2018 at 11:30 pm

And what did ND do as far WRT usury in being a CC tool.

Wukchumni , June 8, 2018 at 10:11 am

I was talking with my wife about DeBeers and the man-made diamonds they're selling @ 1/10th of the price of the genuine article

what if some neo-alchemist did the same thing with gold?

It would in an instant, render all of it worth $130 an ounce, on it's way to $13 an ounce.

And more importantly, take away the only real alternative to digitally produced ducats.

SubjectivObject , June 9, 2018 at 1:11 pm

allotropes
you need need natural allotropes

Jim Haygood , June 8, 2018 at 10:30 am

" Money is debt. It is only created by government spending and bank lending. " -- Richard Murphy

We've jumped through the looking glass. The former money, gold, is NOT debt. Debt-based money is ersatz, a ghastly fraud on humanity.

In a normal economy, government spending is financed by taxes and borrowing, meaning that no new spending power has been created, as IS the case with new bank loans.

Daniel Nevins' book Economics for Independent Thinkers discusses how modern economists got misled into believing the money supply governs everything, whereas earlier 19th century economists understood that bank lending is what drives expansions.

Poor Murphy, starting out with a wonky premise, only succeeds in careering into a briar patch and wrecking his bike. He should post his pratfall on YouTube.

False Solace , June 8, 2018 at 11:57 am

Fiat money can also be created without debt. That's the whole point of MMT, but it makes Haygood's head explode so he never acknowledges it (without muttering about hyperinflation, which never actually happens outside of disasters on the scale of a major war).

When the federal government spends money into existence -- which can be on the basis of a democratic agenda, in countries that have actual democracies -- there's no need for a corresponding issuance of government debt. Hence, spending power is indeed created. If the government does create debt, the bond is an asset on the ledger of whoever buys it, and the government spends the interest into existence. Which creates additional spending power for the private sector. The government can choose to, or not, collect a portion of this as taxes, which extinguishes the money. If the government collected as taxes everything it ever spent there would be no money in circulation.

> In a normal economy, government spending is financed by taxes and borrowing, meaning that no new spending power has been created, as IS the case with new bank loans.

Er, new bank loans also represent borrowing that has to be paid back. The spending power that gets created is extinguished by paying back the bank loan.

MyLessThanPrimeBeef , June 8, 2018 at 12:07 pm

the federal government spends money into existence

a

That's a choice made by the designers of the current system.

But not the only choice.

The people, for example, can be empowered (or perhaps inherit that power, on the basis of the Constitution amendment clause* that any power not given explicitly to the federal government is reserved for the people), to spend money into existence.

*The Tenth Amendment declares, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."

Susan the other , June 8, 2018 at 11:59 am

So do you gold bugs want to dispense with double entry bookkeeping or keep it and adapt it to gold (would that entail both counterfeit money and counterfeit debt?) – gold as both credit and debt, or just what exactly? With the gold side weighing down the ledger it's gonna get wobbly. Maybe have to start a war to fix it? The fog of positive money. Really, JH, you've been the best voice against war. How do you reconcile all the social imbalance that would follow with "positive" money?

Wukchumni , June 8, 2018 at 12:03 pm

Nobody's going to willingly go back to a gold standard, it would have to come about because money via digital deceit has failed in entirety.

Jim Haygood , June 8, 2018 at 12:23 pm

Fiat money is war finance, made permanent. Even during the gold standard, governments would suspend gold convertibility during wars. Lincoln's greenbacks and the UK's suspension during WW I are noteworthy examples.

So the gold standard won't stop governments declaring national security exceptions -- they've always done so. But permanent war finance is what sustains the value-subtraction US military empire, a gross social imbalance that already plagues us by starving the US economy of investment.

Double entry bookkeeping doesn't require that every asset have an offsetting liability. A balance sheet with no liabilities is all equity on the right-hand side. It's what a bank would look like if it sold off its loan portfolio and paid off its depositors -- cash on the left side, equity on the right. If the bank then bought some gold, it would be exchanging one asset (cash) for another (gold), with no effect on the liability/equity side.

Wukchumni , June 8, 2018 at 12:30 pm

It is worth noting that the Federal government struck well over 10 million ounces of gold in coin form for use in circulation from 1861 to 1865

And the CSA?

Not one grain worth

Anthony K Wikrent , June 8, 2018 at 6:40 pm

I've gathered and read much on the greenbacks, but don't recall that very interesting data about minted gold. Any sources you might recommend?

Wukchumni , June 9, 2018 at 4:40 pm

Just look up the mintage figures, here's $20 gold coins that contain just under 1 troy oz of pure gold in content, from 1861 to 1865. You can follow links to other denominations.

There were over 8 million ounces alone in $20 gold coins struck during the Civil War, by the Union.

http://www.amergold.com/gold-news-info/gold-coin-mintages.php

Wukchumni , June 8, 2018 at 12:42 pm

p.s.

We were never on a pure gold standard, nowhere close actually.

The most common money in the land until the Federal Reserve came along, FRN's not being backed by gold?

Why, that would've been National Banknotes, which was the currency of the land from 1863 to 1935. There were over 10,000 different banks in the country that all issued their own currency with the same design, but with different names of banking institutions, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bank_Note

MyLessThanPrimeBeef , June 8, 2018 at 1:40 pm

Specifically, in this case:

Assets = Equity (+ zero liabilities)

The accounting identity is still good.

Susan the other , June 9, 2018 at 10:06 am

Very hard to argue with you, but I'm tripping over this: "If the bank then bought some gold, it would be exchanging one asset (cash) for another (gold) with no effect o the liability equity side." Because in my mind cash isn't an asset – it's just money – a medium of exchange and a unit of account. Where we get all messed up is when the unit of account starts to slip (due to mismanagement) and people start to demand that money become a store of value. When the value is society itself. And blablablah.

JTFaraday , June 9, 2018 at 12:52 pm

Sure, the value is society itself, I agree with this. But OTOH, it is for example much better to be a woman, black person, fill in the blank, even "working class" person with a lot of money than not in a sexist, racist, etc society.

I can't necessarily compel the forces of sexism, racism, old farts who don't agree with me, etc through the "political process," thereby bringing my will to bear on society. But I can move things with my dollars, This is how money gets its magic power. If people played nice with each other, we wouldn't need money.

Older & Wiser , June 8, 2018 at 1:03 pm

What about paper bugs Susan ?
Has paper buggery helped any ever ?
Why do fiat currencies always self-implode (in average) every 50 years ?
" You can fool part of the people all of the time, and all of the people part of the time. .."

OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL , June 8, 2018 at 7:42 pm

8 white men control > 50% of the world's wealth. Let's just keep going in that direction, to where it's down to one white guy, and with debt-based money everyone else owes him all the "money" in the world. Then we can just strangle him in the bathtub and usher in an era of peace and prosperity.

Older & Wiser , June 8, 2018 at 6:40 pm

Richard Murphy says that " handing all credit creation to the central banks is not only technically impossible in a modern economy, it's a dangerous folly "

What is QE then, Sir ?
Our "modern" economies don´t have business cycles any more, just distorting credit cycles.
There are no "markets" as such today, nor prices only interventions.
Even interest rates (the price of supposed "money" remember ?) are not priced by markets any more .

OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL , June 8, 2018 at 7:47 pm

Ask any economist or banker what they think about fixing the price of goods and services and see how they answer.

Watch their heads explode when you then ask if it's a clever idea to fix the most important price in the global economy.

Yves Smith Post author , June 9, 2018 at 9:53 pm

Help me. Gold is not money. And it does not have and never had immutable value. Even in the days of the gold standard, countries regularly devalued their currencies in gold terms. It was the money that was used for commerce, not the gold. When the US government devalued the $ in gold terms by 5%, bread at the store didn't cost more the next day, which is what your "gold is money" amounts to. It's not correct and you need to drop it.

Synoia , June 9, 2018 at 10:49 pm

I visited a gold mine for a tour onec. At the end of the tour was the gold refinery, and on the floor two ingots of gold.

They made the offer, "if you could life one with one hand, you could keep it."

I tried.

And discobered that the ingit, was

a) Pyramidal in shape so ones fingers slid off it
b) F .. heavy. 140 lb.

When you see gold "bars" being tossed around in the movies, it's complete bs. Arnold at his best coud not toss them around.

So we went an had a beer instead. Wiser, but not sadder.

Plenue , June 10, 2018 at 1:13 am

"The former money, gold, is NOT debt. Debt-based money is ersatz, a ghastly fraud on humanity."

You've been on NC for years. You have to know by now that this literally, objectively, isn't true. It just simply isn't. History and anthropology do not at all support your version of events. People like Hudson and Graeber have extensively documented where money came from. Debt and credit came first, then money as a token to measure them. We have warehouses full of the freaking Sumerian transactions tablets that show it! Money is debt, always has been.

Actually, I say you have to know this by now, but given how conspicuously absent you seem to be in the comments of Michael Hudson articles about the history of debt hosted here, maybe you just aren't reading them. Or you are and don't like what they say and how it clashes with your pre-established worldview, so you just ignore them. Though even if the latter, it's still telling how you don't even attempt to refute them. Perhaps because you can't.

steven , June 8, 2018 at 10:52 am

It's not about money; its about creating and distributing wealth. That a trivial thing like a double-entry bookkeeping operation should stand in the way of creating the wealth the world and its people need to survive is, of course, insane. But it is also insane to expect different results from turning over control of the process of money creation to a wholly owned subsidiary of governments like those of the United States and Great Britain, bent as they are on global hegemony ("full spectrum dominance") – at ANY cost.

Whether or not China and other developing nations realize it, genuine wealth creation – not money as debt creation ('finance capitalism') – is THE source of national power. It is more than a little amusing to watch the neoconservatives fret about the rise of China after having joined with their neoliberal brothers in off-shoring US and Western wealth creation potential (in what they must have thought was an oh so clever attack on Western living standards by forcing 'their' people to compete with the world's most desperate workers in a global race to the bottom so their 1% patrons would have an excuse to create more money as debt).

So long as the West remains focused on 'the price of everything and the value of nothing' (like the human potential of their own people, for example), the developing world is soon likely to have a monopoly that will put OPEC and its Middle Eastern dictators to shame. In summary this is about FAR more than just about how a few 'post-industrial' democracies create their money. The definitive work on this topic remains Soddy's Wealth, Virtual Wealth and Debt, 2nd edition.

Paul L. , June 8, 2018 at 8:57 pm

Soddy doesn't object to democratizing the money supply and turning over its creation the democratically elected government.

skippy , June 9, 2018 at 6:18 am

Soddys drama is making money a physical object when its a contract with time and space qualities,

blennylips , June 9, 2018 at 7:28 am

Just as a few days ago Carlos Rovelli, author of " The Order of Time ", has useful insights of the political significance of LSD, he has advice for this too in the same book:

The entire evolution of science would suggest that the best grammar for thinking about the world is that of change, not of permanence. Not of being, but of becoming.
We can think of the world as made up of things. Of substances. Of entities. Of something that is. Or we can think of it as made up of events. Of happenings. Of processes. Of something that occurs. Something that does not last, and that undergoes continual transformation, that is not permanent in time. The destruction of the notion of time in fundamental physics is the crumbling of the first of these two perspectives, not of the second. It is the realization of the ubiquity of impermanence, not of stasis in a motionless time.

In other (his) words:

"The world is made up of networks of kisses, not of stones."

Not bad for a physicist!

blennylips , June 9, 2018 at 8:02 am

As long as I am feting physicists, this just came over the transom from Sabine Hossenfelder of backreaction.blogspot.com fame. She's written a book, " Lost in Math " and was informed that a video trailer is customary in this situation. As the first comment there says:

"Hey, that is a GREAT statement! (And it applies to SO MUCH in life, not just physics!)

http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2018/06/video-trailer-for-lost-in-math.html

djrichard , June 8, 2018 at 10:54 am

We've all been focusing on the demand side of the Fed Reserve's liquidity pump: be it for sound business needs. Or not (pirates).

But what happens when demand for that pump disappears because everyone is over-extended? Because this is where Bernanke and Japan and the ECB have done "whatever it takes" to keep that pump from going in reverse. Because in an empire created on naked shorts (currency creation today is essentially a naked shorting process), the last thing you want is that pump to go in reverse. That's not just creative destruction. That's house-on-fire destruction.

So Bernanke et. al. have figured out how to keep that pump from going in reverse. Simply prop up asset prices, e.g. by reducing the asset float in treasuries, MBSs, etc. And it worked. Yay! Right? If you're an asset holder, you're aces. If you're not an asset holder, well you're not doing so well. In particular, if you're in that part of the economy which depends on the velocity of money. Because velocity is at a stand still. As another blogger I used to follow would say, price sans volume is not the right price. So from my perspective, Bernanke (and Japan) had to destroy their economies by replacing them with zombie economies to rescue certain players. Not just players, but playahs – the pirates that pushed us to this end-game. So the pirates are rescued. And the average joe inherits the after effects. But hey, those with 401Ks got rescued too, so it's not all bad. And since the 401Kers are competitive, they generally found safe harbor in the job market too. Yay for them.

If we were not on a debt-based monetary pump, we would not end up with a zombie economy. One which the Fed Reserve can't figure out how to solve except for creating even more demand at the debt pump, even more over extension to mask the issue only to fall back within the same trap again. From what I can tell, we are truly in a doom loop and at present I don't see any creativity in getting us out of this doom loop.

So the vollgeld initiative would ostensibly be a way to extricate an economy from that doom loop. I suspect the Swiss don't really need it as much as other nations. But why get in the way of that type of creativity?

And I would just add that supplanting the federal reserve note with a Lincoln greenback type of approach would work just as well. Even better since it gives the monetary powers to the fiscal side of the Fed Gov.

I posted a version of this last night in the previous thread. But suspect nobody is going to go to that thread anymore. So apologies for a repeat of sort. Not trying to spam.

Wukchumni , June 8, 2018 at 11:06 am

The idea of a real estate pumped perpetual notion machine, combined with essentially an interest free savings plan for the proles, persuaded them to come through and help rise all boats, and who could have figured on vacation rentals helping out housing bubble deux, the sequel.

Looking @ the real estate listings here in a vacation rental hotspot is indicative, in that there are only a few $250k-$300k homes for sale now, whereas there used to be a dozen, always.

Now, on the other hand, we're swimming in $500k to $1m homes that don't make the rental cut.

That says a lot.

Jim Haygood , June 8, 2018 at 12:36 pm

You probably read the Bernank's naive confession yesterday that fiscal stimulus "is going to hit the economy in a big way this year and next year, and then in 2020 Wile E. Coyote is going to go off the cliff."

Three hundred shocked staffers in the Eccles Building cocked their heads to the side and gasped, "He said WHAT?" So I wrote this song Technodammerung for rogue banker Ben:

He was just a Harvard hand
Workin' the QE he planned to try
The years went by

Every night when the sun goes down
Just another lonely quant in town
And rates out runnin' 'round

It's another tequila sunset
Fed's old scam still looks the same
Another frame

Wukchumni , June 8, 2018 at 12:46 pm

{imagines Bernanke working tables @ South Of The Border, and typical waiter spiel going something along these lines }

"Bienvenidos amigos, me llamo Benito, may I start you with an endless supply of chips?"

Alejandro , June 9, 2018 at 1:54 pm

Pardners in chime
proseytizing in real time
Preaching, if you can touch a dime
Why wont paper rhyme
But in their zeal and haste
And self-righteous aversion to waste
Recruit disciples in bling bling
Preaching money is a thing thing
While finger wagging the bloat
Preaching fix the rate, dont let it float
But beyond the noise
Preaching with poise
Its all about them
Their stuff, jewels and gem

Thornton Parker , June 8, 2018 at 10:58 am

Might the actions of a bank be restrained more easily by requiring all payments and stock issuances to the executives and directors be put directly into escrow accounts to be metered out in small amounts if the bank stays healthy over time? If the bank suffers major losses, the escrow accounts would be the first source of funds to make up for them. No Federal Deposit Insurance or other government payments would be made to the bank until the escrow accounts have been reduced to zero.

John , June 8, 2018 at 11:45 am

Randall Wray could be made Sec Treasury, Stephanie Melton Fed Chairman and if the plutocrats still run the rest of the political show that sets priorities, we would still be screwed. The full employment guaranteed jobs could just as easily be strip mining coal from national parks and forests as installing a national solar grid. It could be done with forced low paid labor camps that maximize rent for the plutocrats. MMT seems morally neutral on how the money is spent. For a good portion of the plutocrats, helping the poor is morally suspect .if they consider it at all. That is the larger problem than acceptance of MMT.

economicator , June 8, 2018 at 1:19 pm

Right on.

I didn't see any comment here going in depth with ideas on the binding money creation decisions with socially useful goals (saving TBTF I dont consider such a goal, except for emergency purposes), by what type of process and stakeholders – to avoid driving us toward becoming a 3rd world oligarchy.

The rest is just mechanics – but the most important thing is what is the social control and social purpose of money creation. I am sure we could do just fine even with the present system (of course since it is a MMT system), if there were some limits on speculation with asset prices, less military spending, more democratic control of enterprises, including banks, severe constraints on the FIRE sector, etc, etc.

In the end the problem of managing money well is a political problem. And not much is changing there for the better, despite a growing awareness that "we have a problem" as a society. Where are the politicians that will connect the dots and take on the responsibility to fix the travesty that we have?

More questions than answers, I know. But what we need a change in politics – then banking will follow.

Pespi , June 9, 2018 at 3:34 am

This is a common fallacy, that MMT is bad because it isn't about communal barter tokens or some other thing. MMT exists to empirically describe how money works in the existing economy today. You can be any sort of ideology and embrace it, anyone can use it, just like anyone can use science, it's not inherently biased toward any ideology unlike neoclassical economics and its baked in neoliberalism. That doesn't make it bad, that just shows that it is what it purports to be, an empirical description of money in our existing economy.

You want a brand new type of currency in a whole new economy, well, start organizing your revolutionary army, because that's what that will take.

bruce wilder , June 8, 2018 at 12:42 pm

The Battle for Money -- that much, it seems to me, is true. Neoliberalism is going down, brought down by its own (unfortunate in my view) success and hubris, and one consequence, on-going, is the urgent political need to re-invent the institutions of money.

The institutional systems of monetary/payment/finance systems are always under a lot of strategic pressure: they tend to develop and evolve quickly and they do not usually last all that long -- maybe, the span of three or four human generations -- except in the collective memory of their artifacts and debris.

There's a natural human wish that it could all be made safely automatic -- taken out of corruptible hands and fixed with some technical governor. Whether you are a fan of democracy or loyal to oligarchy really doesn't take anyone very far toward devising or understanding a workable system of money.

As I said in a comment on the earlier Richard Murphy post, money is a language in which we write (hopefully) "true" fictions to paper over uncertainty. Much of what passes for a theory of money is just meta-fiction, akin to literary criticism of a particular genre or era. That is certainly true of Quantity Theory (1.0 re: gold and 2.0 Friedman). It is true of related fables, like Krugman's favorite, loanable funds.

When Murphy rejects the quantity theory of money and then turns around and talks about the need to create "enough" money, I pretty much write him off. When he embraces the Truth of MMT, I know he is hopeless.

Wukchumni , June 8, 2018 at 1:44 pm

Ideally in a battle of money

a squadron of F-35's would be pitted against a fleet of Zumwalt Class destroyers

Summer , June 8, 2018 at 2:13 pm

It's been discussed on NC before, but despite all the theories and figures, it's really a battle of values. I'm not pushing religion, just saying it has all the makings of a holy war.
(come to think of it, isn't religion a big part of the history of monetary theory?)

Mercury , June 8, 2018 at 3:46 pm

China has yet to fall under the thumb of private banks the way the west has. State still holds the reins of regulation tight and the government bank maintains a robust public sector. Michael Hudson just came back from China and has this to say:

"The debts are owed to government banks. A government can do what the U.S. can't do. The government can forgive debts, at least those that are owed to itself, without creating a political backlash. If a viable corporation has run up too much debt, the government can forgive it. This is better than letting the debt close down a factory or force it be sold to a predatory asset management firm as occurs in the United States. That is the advantage of having public credit and why credit should be public. That's how it was in Babylonia. Rulers were able to cancel debts all the time in the 3rd millennium and 2nd millennium BC, because most debts were owed to the palace or the temples. Rulers were cancelling debts owed to themselves.

China can cancel business debt owed to itself. It can proclaim a clean slate. It can minimize debt service to whatever it chooses. But imagine if Chase Manhattan and Goldman Sachs are let in. It would be much harder for the government to raise real estate taxes leading to defaults on the banks. It could save the occupants by making new loans to those who default – based on lower land prices.

Well, you can imagine the international furor that would erupt. Trump would threaten to atom bomb Peking and Shanghai to save his constituency. His constituency and that of the Democrats are the same: Wall Street and the One Percent. So China may lose its ability to write down debts if it lets in foreign banks."

http://www.unz.com/mhudson/us-vs-china-housingand-those-millennials/

There are advantages to restoring financial management to the nation-state, as former Deputy Secretary of the Treasury Frank Newman has pointed out in books and lectures. The private banks have exhausted QE to the tune of $30 trillion, none of which was invested in the industrial economy. Why blame the Swiss for wanting to be like China?

Grebo , June 8, 2018 at 5:23 pm

that this is a Chicago School / Friedmanesque monetary policy is made clear by Positive Money

The Chicago Plan of the 1930s and the unrelated Friedman suggestion of 1948 were both predicated on the false fractional reserve theory of banking. Given that individual banks create credit unrestrained by reserves those plans would not have had the desired result.

Positive Money knows this, though they do sometimes carelessly use the term 'fractional reserve banking'. They think their plan is different and, to the extent that it would actually prevent banks creating credit, it is.

It is silly to suggest that Positive Money is some Neoliberal front. Neutering the banks is the last thing Neoliberals want, and when they want something they don't bother with democratic methods like public pressure groups, they use think-tanks and lobbying.

Murphy's main complaint is about handing the 'quantity' decision to the Bank. I don't think Positive Money is wedded to that idea, it is just an attempt to defuse the 'profligate politicians' argument.

Watt4Bob , June 8, 2018 at 5:29 pm

I'm sort of disappointed in this thread.

Being that NC is the place I discovered MMT, and it's been explained and debated so for so long here, I would have expected NC readers to more broadly understand that what we have currently would work for everyone if only our masters would allow it.

IOW, it is not necessary to reinvent our system so much as insist that it be used to finance material benefits for all, as opposed to endless war, political repression and bail-outs for our criminal finance sector.

How can it be that we can we finance $trillions for war at the drop of a hat, but cannot afford to 'fix' SS, or provide universal healthcare?

It seems to me that it's a political issue, not a technical problem, or am I missing something here?

Korual , June 8, 2018 at 6:54 pm

It's the difference between nationalization and centralization. We can change policy direction or we can double down, as the Swiss are considering.

OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL , June 8, 2018 at 8:11 pm

Cui bono?
The current mission of the custodians of our "money" is to keep banks afloat. It's not to provide general benefit, or to even preserve the buying power of the scrip they issue, despite what you might hear about the supposed "dual mandate" (which is now a "triple mandate": prices, employment, and the stock market).

"Financing material benefits for all" could be a bank that extends credit to a small business. Take a look at commercial credit creation to see how well that's been going. Take a look at velocity.

The Fed gifted Citi $174 billion on a day when they could have purchased 100% of the Citi Class A common stock for $4B. This is the difference Michael Hudson points about about China: their instant ability to swap debt for equity because all banks are state-owned and because they're Communists and nobody would blink an eye .

Most interesting in The Middle Kingdom are the moves to protect the state-owned banks. They started about 18 months ago, when people were told they could only have one Tier 1 bank-linked e-commerce account. As a result 7.5 billion (with a B) accounts were closed. Next they said all payments systems (including WeChat and Alipay) must clear through a new central bank clearinghouse. Two weeks ago they said not only will everything clear through these but the actual funds will need to be transferred to the new CB account .

Ant Financial announced that in the future they would be concentrating on services to finance and e-commerce companies, and away from providing those services themselves. They even anticipate a name change, from Ant Financial to Ant Lifestyle. All this makes perfect sense: President Xi will see every financial transaction in the country, and presumably apply a Social Score filter on whether he allows it to go through. 11 million people have already been denied the right to purchase train tickets or buy a house because they spat on a sidewalk, jaywalked, or made the wrong comments on social media.

Paul L. , June 8, 2018 at 7:21 pm

Wow! We are clearly past the "First they ignore you.." stage and just on the other side of " then they ridicule you.." phase. What a basket of slurs, gross omissions of fact and outright falsehoods is this current blog post.
Anytime Milton Friedman is invoked to slur a concept developed before he was even born, should be an indicator that there is no substance to the argument against the democratization of money creation.

Thanks to the internet however, one can easily visit the Positive Money site, the American Monetary Institute and International Movement for Monetary Reform sites to see those fake progressives in action. While you're at it, go to the Vollgeld site yourself and read what those wolves in sheep's clothing are really saying instead of the creative writing displayed in the blog.

How can anyone who claims to be concerned over the excesses of capitalism prostrate themselves in front of the current banking system, the driver of capitalism as it rides off the rails.

I can't bring myself to respond to the stream of unsubstantiated assertions presented but need to remind people that banks, MUST create money first for the most creditworthy. I won't insult the readers any further by naming who that class represents. A child can see that this, by definition, must lead to the accelerating inequality we see today.

As a challenge, I ask the author to show specifically in the US code where it permits the Federal Government to spend before its accounts at the Fed are replenished either by borrowing or taxing. Stay tuned to these pages for the evidence .

Clint Ballinger , June 8, 2018 at 7:29 pm

PM just wants OMF (Overt Monetary Financing) with ZIRP and a very small horizontal money system. MMT analysis suggests OMF with ZIRP and a much more regulated horizontal system is needed. There is actually very little difference in their policy prescriptions. They just arrived at them from opposite sides of the track

http://clintballinger.edublogs.org/2017/11/02/omfg-mmtpm-get-along/

steven , June 8, 2018 at 8:43 pm

I'm sort of disappointed in this thread.

I'll second that but for different reasons. Buried not far beneath the surface of this issue (money's creation, how and how much) are hugely important issues. But the discussion never seems to get beyond everyone's favorite system for creating money. The assumption seems to run along the lines of: if we can just come up with some scheme for government or gold backed money, those who possess or produce the real wealth for that money to buy will forever be content to exchange it for the money we will forever create to pay for it. There seems to be a belief countries like China or Russia can never escape the 'dollar trap' – or if they try we can threaten and intimidate them back in line with our "full spectrum dominance" military. Money IS debt – and sooner or later those who hold it are going to want to call that debt in.

Both Positive Money and MMT appear to me to just be attempts to continue 'business as usual', operating without a real definition of wealth and trusting / hoping 'the market' will sort it out.

Paul L. , June 8, 2018 at 9:23 pm

Please explain your comment "Money IS debt". Money may represent a debt but is not debt in and of itself.

steven , June 9, 2018 at 1:24 am

Money is debt, both functionally and conceptually. This is true for most of the money used in the Main Street economy. It is created as debt – yours to a bank when you use your credit card or borrow money; the bank's to you when you deposit money with one. In its role as a medium of exchange money serves as a claim on society's goods and services, its real wealth. You don't exchange real wealth for fiat or bank-created money without the expectation you will at some future time be able to again exchange that money for real wealth at least equivalent to what you had to give up in exchange for the money originally.

Jamie Walton , June 9, 2018 at 7:48 am

Rather than a claim on wealth, money could be viewed as a representation of value. Value exchange is more like a giving/sharing economy, rather than debt-swapping. I think this psychological improvement will lead to many physical/social/environmental improvements.

Of course, in any case, people need to be willing sellers/exchangers – it's not automatic or universal; we need some freedom to choose, and the better the conditions are generally, the better the freedom we will have.

Paul L. , June 9, 2018 at 10:24 am

OK but the term, "money is debt" is used too loosely and can be very misleading. Money does not have to be issued as debt as claimed by MMT. In fact, money can first appear as equity on the government's balance sheet with no counterbalancing debt. So this concept is grossly misused to imply money must be issued as debt when, in fact, once issued it may represent a claim on the wealth of society. Proponents of MMT first make the claim that money is debt, and that the notion that money can be issued debt-free is therefore false on its face. Pretty clever. They slyly blur the distinction between the creation of money by a government and the role of that money once in the economy.

WobblyTelomeres , June 9, 2018 at 10:28 am

SOME proponents of MMT first make the claim that money is debt.

FIFY.

tegnost , June 9, 2018 at 10:33 am

How can money first appear as equity? Isn't the other side of that the deficit? Granted I am naive on these points but I thought money was a bond of zero duration.See skippy re time and space

steven , June 9, 2018 at 11:17 am

I don't believe you are

"naive on these points"

. A question for Paul: Unless it is 'privatized' is there even such a thing as 'government equity'? The way the West's financial system works nothing that can't be sold appears to have any value. What's missing from that system – and the discipline of economics (see below) – is a definition of wealth.

Paul L. , June 9, 2018 at 1:10 pm

steven –
I believe we know what wealth is – but I don't understand your claim that money needs to be privatized to be considered equity. The government declares by fiat that the money it creates can be used to purchase goods and services in the economy.

steven , June 9, 2018 at 5:11 pm

I believe we know what wealth is

I don't believe this is anywhere nearly correct. From all over the political spectrum commentators lament the lost of trillions of dollars (or euros or whatever) of wealth. At least until the effects of a financial crisis start to take hold, no physical or intellectual capital is lost. The only thing that is lost are a few zeros on some financial ledgers.

As for money as equity, you may be technically correct, i.e. the rules of accounting may permit governments to count the stacks of paper currency they print (in any case, small change in terms of the total money supply) as 'equity'. But for most of us the only thing governments possess that we would count as equity are asset classes like public infrastructure. And until the services they provide (or the assets themselves) are sold, that infrastructure would, from a business accounting standpoint, technically be 'worthless'. (that last is a question?)

tegnost , June 9, 2018 at 11:24 am

I'll add watt4bob has stated what I feel is true, which is that we have MMT right now, and it's more commonly known as socialism for the rich

Paul L. , June 9, 2018 at 1:04 pm

tegnost – There is nothing in the accounting standards that prevents the inclusion of equity on a balance sheet. If we were under the gold standard and you happened to find a nugget of gold in your back yard, are you telling me that you would have to imagine some kind of "debt" to balance your household balance sheet? When Lincoln issued the Greenbacks in the 1860's there was no bond or debt associated with it. It paid soldiers wages and goods and services during he civil war.
Just as MMT states the government isn't a household, it also isn't a commercial bank either. It has the constitutional power to coin money as needed, no debt involved.

tegnost , June 9, 2018 at 2:42 pm

presumably you bought the nugget of gold when you purchased the property and it's land use rights so it's not a virgin birth, the debt is what you purchased the land for. Maybe one of those diamonds in the outback that hardy souls find, but those may have some territorial claim as well.

Paul L. , June 9, 2018 at 3:37 pm

tegnost – If you have to go there to make your point I let others judge.

tegnost , June 9, 2018 at 5:18 pm

ok how bout I come into your yard and look for some gold?

Plenue , June 10, 2018 at 1:33 am

The gold nugget has no inherent value. It's just a lump of cold metal. It will only become valuable when you go to someone else with it and try to exchange it for something, whether it be a currency or some kind of good. And only if the other person agrees with you that it's valuable. This is fundamentally what money is: a token of social interaction. The gold becomes valuable when you go to exchange it for something else. In other words when a debt comes into play. Money is debt. Or rather, it's a measurement of debt and credit. 'Store of value' and all that econ 101 rot is so much gibberish.

Once you realize that, then a question arises: "Well, why bother with rare metals or pressed coins? If it's just a token, you could literally just take a stick and carve marks into it and it would be the same thing". Yes, exactly. Which is precisely the sort of thing we see lots of in history.

RBHoughton , June 8, 2018 at 9:15 pm

Murphy sounds like one of those indecisive chaps who dispute with everyone but have no ideas of their own. I shall ignore him. Good luck to Switzerland. They have the courage and political system to try the experiment and we will all know the result in early course.

Oregoncharles , June 8, 2018 at 11:50 pm

What am I missing? As far as I can tell, the proposal is just Modern Money with the central bank substituted for the Treasury. Yes, that makes it less democratic.

MMT is inflation-limited, too. That's how you know you've overshot your resources. In fact, MMT poses a technical problem: how do you know when you've reached resource limits, EXCEPT by observing inflation? Because without that, you have a ratchet. Of course, that's just what we have, usually, so maybe that's evidence for the theory.

"First, this puts inflation at the core of economic policy." – is a false claim. As quoted, it treats inflation as a limitation. The core is promoting adequate economic activity.

Finally, he treats "money is debt" as doctrine. he doesn't justify it and it makes little sense, ESPECIALLY in MMT. How can you pay a debt with a debt? Someone's getting cheated. MMT actually proposes free money, to a point. I've seen elaborations of the idea, but they use a very extended sense of "debt." And I don't see how it's even relevant to his overall thesis.

The Swiss are pretty conservative, so I doubt they'll pass it.

Yves Smith Post author , June 9, 2018 at 1:45 am

No, Positive Money is not remotely MMT. Wash your mouth out.

The Positive Money types want to limit the extension of credit and put it under the control of what Lambert called "a magic board," a regular gimmick from his days back in debate where someone needed to be in charge but no one wanted to think hard about who or how. In practice, a central bank would be in charge. So how democratic is that?

MMT does not fetishize money the way the Positive Money does. MMT despite having Monetary in the name is about the role of government spending in a fiat currency system. MMT argues that (as Kalekci did) that businesses have strong incentive (not wanting workers to get uppity) to keep the economy at less than full employment. So the government can and should spend to mobilize resources. And it can because its role as the currency issuer means it can never go bankrupt, it can only create too much inflation. Taxes are what contain inflation in MMT.

By contrast, the Positive Money types want to do it by limiting credit creation. And thus Murphy is correct. That means their priority is to preserve the value of financial assets, not achieve full employment.

steven , June 9, 2018 at 11:03 am

I don't believe it is accurate to say that Positive Money "fetishizes money". Irving Fisher acknowledged his debt to Frederick Soddy for the concept of "100% Money", the intellectual foundation for the Positive Money movement. Soddy's intent in limiting the creation of money to the stock of wealth available for it to purchase was to retain independence from the state in obtaining the means of subsistence. He compared the use of monetary policy to goose the economy to a merchant putting his or her finger on the scale, making it difficult to impossible for money to fulfill two of its primary functions: serving as a medium of exchange and a store of value.

So long as there was wealth available for it to purchase, he – and presumably Fisher's Positive Money crowd – would have no objection to creating as much money as needed to keep the economy running. What he and every other respectable economist have been trying to bring under control is the excess money creation fueling speculation and the seemingly inevitable boom-bust cycle accompanying the private creation of money.

Rather than curbing that excess, however, the 'solution' that seems to have been adopted is for the US and other Western governments to absorb the excess credit (money as debt) creation by taking it on their (governments') own books. Government debt is I believe called 'near money' in the financial markets. But neither the governments nor the bankers of countries that no longer create real wealth have any logical right to create the money to buy it. Just retaining the right to 'print' more money or 'near money' doesn't change that, except perhaps in an absurdly narrow legal sense.

There are, of course, some issues like globalization intimately connected with the construction of a logical and fair monetary system. But underlying them all, including for countries other than the US, is a logical definition of 'wealth':

a logical definition of wealth is absolutely needed for the basis of economics if it is to be a science."

Frederick Soddy, WEALTH, VIRTUAL WEALTH AND DEBT, 2nd edition, p. 102
(Soddy might have added "if government is to be a science".)

skippy , June 9, 2018 at 8:12 pm

Here in lies the rub economics will never be a Science.

Firstly the medium used by most economics – philosophy – does not even have a functioning model of time and space and is prone to fads. Magnified by scale WRT elite tastes or self dealing. Wealth or Capital is also a bit complicated by say the Cambridge Controversy et al. So until some very fundamental flaws are sorted, that have nothing to do with – money – the concept of "Science of Money" is going to be a non starter.

Worst is those that use such syntax and dialectal style are going to be called into question – over it.

I mean we had political theory, then some bolted on science to it, and called it economic science. Which then begat a whole time line of dominance front running the political process regardless of political incumbents.

I think Scientists that dabble in monetary theory fall victim to the same dilemma that say religious based views do – their optics are ground before looking.

steven , June 9, 2018 at 9:55 pm

Skippy,

Probably best to start with the first part of Soddy's (actually John Ruskin's) observation, "a logical definition of wealth is absolutely needed ". "Most economics" may indeed disguise its prostitution with a veneer of philosophy or mathematics. But I don't think you can say that about Soddy's:

A definition of wealth must be based upon the nature of physical or material wealth, in the sense of the physical requisites which empower and enable human life-that is, which supply human beings with the means to live, and, as an after consequence of living, to love, think and pursue goodness, beauty and truth.p. 108

(All citations are from Soddy's Wealth, Virtual Wealth and Debt, 2nd edition- WVWD)
For that matter, according to Michael Hudson, you can not accuse the classical economists of just dabbling in philosophy. They were ALL about freeing society from free-lunch economic rent seekers, freeing up the resources so they could be devoted as completely as possible to the development of "the physical requisites which empower and enable human life".

What we have to do to develop those physical requisites – and increasingly the limitations imposed by the requirements of sustainability – is pretty well known. Whether a science of money can be devised to help accomplish that goal or some other mechanism for distributing the wealth made possible by advances in science and technology is required is increasingly open to question.

Take a look at Soddy's –THE THREE INGREDIENTS OF WEALTH (DISCOVERY, NATURAL ENERGY AND DILIGENCE). p. 61 The first two are firmly embedded in time and space.

skippy , June 9, 2018 at 11:21 pm

I have read Soddy, more so I have talked with PM sorts for a long time, hence I'm not ignorant of the camps views or actions during said time.

Onward

"a logical definition of wealth is absolutely needed ".

I did reference the Cambridge Controversy, are you informed WRT this aspect.

"A definition of wealth must be based upon the nature of physical or material wealth, in the sense of the physical requisites which empower and enable human life-that is, which supply human beings with the means to live, and, as an after consequence of living, to love, think and pursue goodness, beauty and truth.p. 108"

Sorry but . "consequence of living, to love, think and pursue goodness, beauty and truth" has nothing scientific about it.

I reiterate – Metaphilosophy has no scientific underpinnings and attempts to "brand" it otherwise in only to burnish its credentials without any empirical satisfaction is just rhetorical gaming.

"you can not accuse the classical economists of just dabbling in philosophy."

Hay I respect Hudson, that does not mean I worship him, hes been invaluable to the discovery process, but, that does not mean everything he has to say is the word of dawg, nor would I surrender my cognitive processes just because someone uses the term classical.

If I have to go that space I would favor say Veblen or Lars P. Syll where if your to own a thing one must accept the responsibility from a social aspect and not one of atomistic individualism.

But hay I regress . because I'm still waiting for someone to show me a few decades of a labour market in "action".

skippy , June 9, 2018 at 11:22 pm

BTW it would be incumbent of you to redress my concerns above without forging a new path which excludes them.

steven , June 10, 2018 at 1:40 am
"BTW it would be incumbent of you to redress my concerns above without forging a new path which excludes them." – Sorry if I did that. It was not my intent. Wikipedia is my only exposure to the Cambridge Controversy . As I understand it, science is supposed to be all about observing the real world and then drawing conclusions from those observations. It looks to me like the participants in the debate were looking at their models and maybe the logic they used to construct them, not the world they were supposed to be modeling.
"Most of the debate is mathematical, while some major elements can be explained as part of the aggregation problem. The critique of neoclassical capital theory might be summed up as saying that the theory suffers from the fallacy of composition;"
This kind of cant is a far cry from something like:

"Though it was not understood a century ago, and though as yet the applications of the knowledge to the economics of life are not generally realised, life in its physical aspect is fundamentally a struggle for energy , in which discovery after discovery brings life into new relations with the original source. Evolutionary development has been parasitic, higher and higher organisms arising and obtaining the requisite supplies of energy by feeding upon the lower. But with man and the development of conscious reason, that process as regards energy is being reversed. "

(emphasis added)

Sister Gloria , June 9, 2018 at 8:46 am

Sorry, but where does Positive Money , in any of the publications and articles, propose any limitations on 'credit' ?
I never saw that.
Or AMI or any of these public money types for that matter?
Thank you.

Paul L. , June 9, 2018 at 9:45 am

You are completely correct, they don't. This is all made up propaganda against the democratization of the money supply. What PM proposes is sound credit creation.

skippy , June 9, 2018 at 8:23 pm

PM wants to establish a non democratic administration of government issuance and then allow a return to the free banking period of the 1800s. All based on notions of EMH and QTM contra to all the historical data from that period. So on one had PM wants to lay claim to scientific methodology WRT money yet still cling to scientifically refuted EMH.

As far as I can discern PM proponents advance the belief that this would compel banks to become investment entities for "productive" activities. Don't know how that would work out considering how corporatism views society.

Sound of the Suburbs , June 9, 2018 at 4:13 pm

MMT has looked at publicly created money.

The positive money people have come at it from the other angle. People like Richard Werner have been studying the problems with privately created money since the Japanese economy blew up in the 1980s .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC0G7pY4wRE&t=3s

They have seen all the problems with privately created money and the positive money people were very pleased when the BoE confirmed their beliefs in 2014.

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/quarterly-bulletin/2014/money-creation-in-the-modern-economy.pdf

The positive money people have come to the wrong conclusion through not understanding publicly created money.

The MMT people can learn a lot about the problems of privately created money from the positive money people.

The two camps should merge to get the big picture.

I started looking into all the problems of privately created money after 2008 and was a latecomer to MMT.

The two merge nicely when you think about it and realise the why the positive money people came to the conclusion they did. They just didn't understand the way publicly created money works now.

djrichard , June 9, 2018 at 4:19 pm

In the case of Japan, unless I'm misunderstanding things there, presumably they've embraced MMT out the wazoo, in that they're willing to leverage federal gov debt out the wazoo. And yet I think the consensus still seems to be that their economy is still zombified (still not really recovered from the debt overhang from their go go years). In which case, why is that?

Has Japan been hamstringing their use of MMT, so it's less effective than it could be? Do they need to up the ante, employ MMT-on-steroids to overcome the trap that they're in, say like the US needed WWII to get out of its trap?

Withstanding MMT-on-steroids, should it be QE-on-steroids instead that get the animal spirits rekindled? I don't have a strong sense of whether the US central bank has done more in that department compared to the central bank of Japan. Or if indeed, the US central bank has been more successful on that front. It's clear that animal spirits are certainly rekindled in the US – the usual playahs are back at it. Though whether that's unzombified our economy, I'm not so sure – I don't think it has.

If these hurdles are so difficult, seems to me we should have a monetary system that doesn't result in a zombified economy to begin with, per the comment I was making further above.

Synoia , June 9, 2018 at 10:41 pm

And yet I think the consensus still seems to be that their economy is still zombified (still not really recovered from the debt overhang from their go go years). In which case, why is that?

Debt Peonage. For it to work there has to be a debt jubilee (a forgiveness of peoples debt).

Older & Wiser , June 9, 2018 at 8:21 pm

China´s Battle for Money

" It seems there are greater similarities between China and the US than may be visible at first glance. China builds real estate for a shrinking population, invests for an over-indebted client (the US, which even insists on a drastic reduction of the bilateral trade deficit) and finances all this with money it does not have ."

https://mises.org/wire/china-trouble

skippy , June 9, 2018 at 9:39 pm

I know the answer to this dilemma – Praxeology – !!!!!

skippy , June 9, 2018 at 8:29 pm

MMT has always stated to whom the debt is owed is the crux of the matter and in what form denoted.

I have trouble understanding the dramas with bank issued credit when squared with say equities, why all the focus on one and not to be inclusive of a wide assortment of other mediums of exchange and how they are created and why.

skippy , June 9, 2018 at 9:27 pm

Sorry comment was directed at djrichard above.

So tell me why J – bonds are called the death trade e.g. shorters nightmare – albeit they will tell you their shorts are being thwarted by ev'bal forces.

The Rev Kev , June 9, 2018 at 10:26 pm

Couldn't resist this. That title has me intrigued so, with apologies to Winston Churchill-

" What (neoliberals have) called the Battle of (Credit) is over the Battle of (Money) is about to begin. Upon this battle depends the survival of (world) civilisation. Upon it depends our own (western) life, and the long continuity of our institutions and our (civilization). The whole fury and might of the enemy must very soon be turned on us. (Neoliberals) knows that (they) will have to break us in this (idea) or lose the war. If we can stand up to (them), all (the world) may be freed and the life of the world may move forward into broad, sunlit uplands.
But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new dark age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science. Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves, that if the (United Nations) and its (Countries) last for a thousand years, men will still say, "This was their finest hour." "

skippy , June 9, 2018 at 10:50 pm

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/11/mark-ames-libertarian-liars-top-reagan-adviser-cato-institute-chairman-william-niskanen-%E2%80%9Cdeficits-don%E2%80%99t-matter%E2%80%9D.html

Yet then some say AET and Neoclassical economics just needs to implement PM and all will be well.

I've yet to see any PM advocate or proponent criticize an executive or corporatism, only banksters and some politicians. On the other hand I've seen many PM sorts back crypto based on the argument of decentralization. So which is it, counterfeiting of national money with a side of corruption or a case of counterfeiting ex nihilo via some arbitrary computational source with a predominate side of corruption.

I am completely at a loss to understand how the debate about money proceeds things like Marginalism, supply and demand as a monolith, rational agent models, theoclassical opinions elevated to truisms [economic laws] and a reduction of human experience as a binary condition set in stone.

I also have issues with PM advocates and their UBI agenda, due to its original proponents views on the need to water down democracy more to keep the unwashed from just voting themselves more money. It is in my opinion logically incoherent, that is just what has occurred during the neoliberal period and corporatists via the democracy of money through lobbyists – every dollar is a vote – et al.

In light of that I can only surmise that PM is actually pro elitist, not that I have issues with some being elite, that is another story altogether, but money itself is not the bar.

[Jun 10, 2018] Trump At G-7 Closing Remarks We're The Piggy Bank That Everybody's Robbing

Looks like Trump adopted Victoria Nuland "Fuck the EU" attitude ;-). There might be nasty surprises down the road as this is uncharted territory: destruction of neoliberal globalization.
Trump proved to be a really bad negotiator. he reduced the USA to a schoolyard bully who beats up his gang members because their former victims have grown too big.
As the owner of world reserve currency the USA is able to tax US denominated transactions both via conversion fees and inflation. As long as the USA has dollar as a reserve currency the USA has so called "exorbitant priviledge" : "In the Bretton Woods system put in place in 1944, US dollars were convertible to gold. In France, it was called "America's exorbitant privilege"[219] as it resulted in an "asymmetric financial system" where foreigners "see themselves supporting American living standards and subsidizing American multinationals"."... "De Gaulle openly criticised the United States intervention in Vietnam and the "exorbitant privilege" of the United States dollar. In his later years, his support for the slogan "Vive le Québec libre" and his two vetoes of Britain's entry into the European Economic Community generated considerable controversy." Charles de Gaulle - Wikipedia
Notable quotes:
"... Errrr, that so-called "piggy bank' just happens to; ..."
"... have the world's reserve currency ..."
"... dominates the entire planet militarily since the end of the Cold War ..."
"... dictates "regime change" around the world ..."
"... manipulates and controls the world's entire financial system, from the price of a barrel to every financial transaction in the SWIFT system. ..."
"... And Trump has the ignorance, the arrogance and the audacity to be pleading 'poverty?' ..."
Jun 10, 2018 | www.zerohedge.com

On trade:

"We had productive discussion on having fair and reciprocal" trade and market access.

"We're linked in the great effort to create a more just and prosperous world. And from the standpoint of trade and creating more prosperous countries, I think they are starting to be committed to more fair trade. We as a nation lost $870 billion on trade...I blame our leaders and I congratulate leaders of other countries for taking advantage of our leaders."

"If they retaliate they're making a tremendous mistake because you see we have a tremendous trade imbalance...the numbers are so much against them, we win that war 1000 times out of a 1000."

"We're negotiating very hard, tariffs and barriers...the European Union is brutal to the United States....the gig is up...there's nothing they can say."

"We're like the piggy bank that everybody's robbing."

"I would say the level of relationship is a ten - Angela, Emmanuel and Justin - we have a very good relationship. I won't blame these people, unless they don't smarten up and make the trades fair."

Trump is now making the 20-hour flight to Singapore, where he will attend a historic summit with North Korea leader Kim Jong Un. We'll now keep our eye out for the finalized communique from the group. The US is typically a leader in the crafting of the statement. But this time, it's unclear if the US had any input at all into the statement, as only the leaders from Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy and Japan as well as the presidents of the European Commission and European Council remain at the meeting. But regardless of who writes it, the statement will probably be of little consequence, as UBS points out:

Several heads of state will be heading off on a taxpayer-financed "mini-break" in Canada today. In all of its incarnations (over the past four years, we've gone from G-8 to G-6+1) the group hasn't really accomplished much since an initial burst of enthusiasm with the Plaza Accords and Louvre Accords in the 1980s.

And this meeting likely won't be any different.


Simplifiedfrisbee -> ravolla Sat, 06/09/2018 - 11:31 Permalink

Unprepared son of a bitch.

Sack of filth.

Klassenfeind -> Dickweed Wang Sat, 06/09/2018 - 11:43 Permalink

"We're the piggy bank that everybody is robbing." Excuse me?!

Errrr, that so-called "piggy bank' just happens to;

  1. have the world's reserve currency
  2. dominates the entire planet militarily since the end of the Cold War
  3. dictates "regime change" around the world
  4. manipulates and controls the world's entire financial system, from the price of a barrel to every financial transaction in the SWIFT system.

And Trump has the ignorance, the arrogance and the audacity to be pleading 'poverty?'

Who THE FUCK is robbing who here?!?

Escrava Isaura -> helltothenah Sat, 06/09/2018 - 14:51 Permalink

By the way, Trump is right on the tariffs in my view, Europeans should lower their tariffs and not having the US raising it.

Trump: "We're The Piggy Bank That Everybody's Robbing"

Isn't Trump great in catch phrases? Trump's base will now regurgitate it to death.

Now reconcile Trump's remarks with reality:

Professor Werner: Germany is for instance not even allowed to receive delivery of US Treasuries that it may have purchased as a result of the dollars earned through its current account surplus: these Treasuries have to be held in custody by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, a privately owned bank: A promise on a promise. At the same time, German influence over the pyramid structure of such promises has been declining rapidly since the abolition of the German currency and introduction of the euro, controlled by an unaccountable supranational international agency that cannot be influenced by any democratic assembly in the eurozone. As a result, this structure of one-sided outflows of real goods and services from Germany is likely to persist in the short and medium-term.

To add insult to injury:

Euro-federalists financed by US spy chiefs

The documents show that ACUE financed the European Movement, the most important federalist organisation in the post-war years. In 1958, for example, it provided 53.5 per cent of the movement's funds.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/1356047/Euro-federalists-financed-by-US-spy-chiefs.html

bshirley1968 -> Escrava Isaura Sat, 06/09/2018 - 15:00 Permalink

Okay, everyone set your "team" aside for a few minutes and let's look at the facts and reality.

Do you really believe the rest of the world has trade advantages over the US? Well, let's consider major industries.

Agriculture.....maybe, but only sightly. Our farmers are the richest in the workd....by far.

Manufacturers.....probably so....because we gave it away to countries with slave labor. Manufacturers jobs were jobs where people could earn a decent living...and that had to go..can't be cutting into corporate profits with all that high cost labor.

Defense.....need I go here? We spend more than the next 11 countries combined! We sell more as well.

Energy.....we rule thus space because we buy it with worthless printed fiat debt...whenever we want to....and nd if you deny us, we will bomb the hell out of you and take it.

Technology. ....Apple, Microsoft, Intel, Google, Amazon, Oracle, Dell, Cisco.....who can touch that line up....not to mention all the on-line outfits like Facebook and Twitter.

Finance.....the best for last. We control the printing press that prints the dollar the rest of the world needs. We control energy and foreign policy. Don't do what we like and we will cut you off from SWIFT and devalue the hell out of your currency...and then move in for the "regime" change to some one who plays ball the way we like it. 85% of all international trade takes place in dollars everyday. We have the biggest banks, Wall Street, and infest the world with our virus called the dollar so that we can Jeri their chain at will.

Now I ask you....just where the hell is the "trade imbalances"? Sure there are some companies or job sectors that get a raw deal because our politicians give some foreigners unfair trade advantages here and there, but as a whole, we dominate trade by far. The poor in our country lives like kings compared to 5.5 billion of the world's population. Trump knows this.....or he is stupid. He is pandering to his sheeple voting base that are easily duped into believing someone is getting what is their's.

Hey, I am thankful to be an American and enjoy the advantages we have. But I am not going to stick my head up Trump's ass and agree with this bullshit. It is misdirection (corporate America and politicians are the problem here, not foreign countries) and a major distraction. Because all the trade in the world isn't going to pull us out of this debt catastrophe that's coming.

waspwench -> bshirley1968 Sat, 06/09/2018 - 16:47 Permalink

But, if we cut through all the verbiage, we will arrive at the elephant in the room.

American manufacturing jobs have been off-shored to low wage countries and the jobs which have replaced them are, for the most part, minium wage service jobs. A man cannot buy a house, marry and raise a family on a humburger-flippers wage. Even those minimum wage jobs are often unavailable to Americans because millions of illegal aliens have been allowed into the country and they are undercutting wages in the service sector. At the same time, the better paid positions are being given to H-1B visa holders who undercut the American worker (who is not infrequently forced to train his own replacement in order to access his unemployment benefits.)

As the above paragraph demonstrates the oligarchs are being permitted to force down American wages and the fact that we no longer make, but instead import, the things we need, thus exporting our wealth and damaging our own workers is all the same to them. They grow richer and they do not care about our country or our people. If they can make us all into slaves it will suit them perfectly.

We need tariffs to enable our workers to compete against third world wages in countries where the cost-of-living is less. (American wages may be stagnating or declining but our cost-of-living is not declining.) We need to deport illegal aliens and to stop the flow of them over our borders. (Build the wall.) We need to severely limit the H-1B visa programme which is putting qualified Americans out of work. (When I came to the US in 1967 I was permitted entry on the basis that I was coming to do a job for which there were not enough American workers available. Why was that rule ever changed?)

bshirley1968 -> waspwench Sat, 06/09/2018 - 18:45 Permalink

You are making my point. China didn't "off shore" our jobs....our politicians and corporations did. You can't fix that by going after other countries. You fix that by penalizing companies for using slave labor workers from other countries. Tariffs are not going to fix this. They will just raise prices on everyone.

I can't believe you Trumptards can't see this! Once again we will focus on a symptom and ignore the real problem. Boy, Trump and his buddies from NYC and DC have really suffered because of unfair trade practices, right? Why can't you people see that "government is the problem" and misdirection your attention to China, Canada, Germany, Mexico, or whomever is just that....misdirection.

I would tax the shit out of companies like Apple that make everything overseas with slave labor and then ship it in here to sell to Americans at ridiculous prices.

Plenty of down votes but no one has proven that I am wrong on one point.

mkkby -> helltothenah Sat, 06/09/2018 - 17:52 Permalink

The EU countries have free college, health care, day care and just about everything else. All paid for because they have no military spending.

It's all on the backs of the US tax payer. Or the fed, if you prefer.

Trump is working both angles. Forcing them to pay for their own defense. Forcing them to allow US products with no trade disadvantages. Go MAGA and fuck the EU.

[Jun 05, 2018] Jim Chanos on Fraud "Cryptocurrency Is a Security Speculation Game Masquerading as a Technological Breakthrough" naked capit

Notable quotes:
"... By Lynn Parramore, Senior Research Analyst, Institute for New Economic Thinking. Originally published at the Institute for New Economic Thinking website ..."
"... Jim Chanos, founder and managing partner of New York-based Kynikos Associates, has spent much of his career studying financial fraud. He shares his thoughts with the Institute for New Economic Thinking -- where he is a member of the ..."
"... Global Partners Council ..."
"... -- on cryptocurrency, fraud coming from China, and why fraudsters may currently be on the rise. Chanos teaches a course on the history of financial fraud at Yale University and the University of Wisconsin. ..."
"... down with the blockchain ..."
Jun 05, 2018 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

Jim Chanos on Fraud: "Cryptocurrency Is a Security Speculation Game Masquerading as a Technological Breakthrough" Posted on June 5, 2018 by Yves Smith By Lynn Parramore, Senior Research Analyst, Institute for New Economic Thinking. Originally published at the Institute for New Economic Thinking website

Jim Chanos, founder and managing partner of New York-based Kynikos Associates, has spent much of his career studying financial fraud. He shares his thoughts with the Institute for New Economic Thinking -- where he is a member of the Global Partners Council -- on cryptocurrency, fraud coming from China, and why fraudsters may currently be on the rise. Chanos teaches a course on the history of financial fraud at Yale University and the University of Wisconsin.

Lynn Parramore: As someone who pays a lot of attention to financial fraud, you've noticed that this activity has a connection to business cycles. Can you explain that and say where you think we are right now?

Jim Chanos: I've found in my research and my teaching that what I would call the "fraud cycle" -- instances of large-scale financial fraud over multiple platforms and companies in the financial markets in the modern era (the last 500 years) -- follows the financial cycle with a lag. That means that as business and particularly financial markets improve, peoples' sense of disbelief and caution that they've often earned from the previous downturn begins to erode. Schemes that before might have seemed too good to be true begin to be embraced.

LP: So people relax their financial vigilance.

JC: Exactly. The longer the cycle goes on, the easier it becomes for the dishonest and the fraudsters to ply their trade because people will begin to believe in things that they shouldn't financially. As cycles go on, we tend to see higher instances of fraud. In recent memory, there were clearly, from a legal and prosecutorial point of view, more cases of fraud after the dot-com bull market of the late '90s, which went from 1991 to 2000. Many of the dot-coms turned out to be fraudulent. We then saw the Enrons and the WorldComs and the Tycos. Frauds generally come to light after the financial cycle turns down. We saw this again after the crisis following the bull market of 2003 to 2007.

What happens is that the new capital going into these things dries up. Many frauds are, by their nature, Ponzi schemes that require new money and new investors to pay off the old investors. When people want their money back, the insolvency of the venture is discovered. John Kenneth Galbraith has this wonderful term called "the bezzle" [inventory of undiscovered embezzlement]. That's the heart of the fraud, the nature of the fraud in the company. He points out that in the up phase, there's this wonderful period where both the fraudsters and the defrauded think they're getting richer. An interesting observation, right?

Of course, it works the other way on the down side. That's what I mean when I tell my students to follow the cycles and be on guard the longer a financial and business cycle lasts because people will get a little bit jiggy with their capital. They're willing to take risks, willing to believe things. So today we've got bitcoin and ICOs [initial coin offerings], which went ballistic in 2017. I suspect going forward we're going to see more and more evidence of questionable companies as this bull market keeps advancing and aging. We're now nine years into this bull market, same as the '90s, so I suspect that now things are starting to percolate. I think bitcoin and the ICOs are just one manifestation of that.

LP: I just passed a huge crowd gathered around the New York Hilton Midtown for "Blockchain Week NYC," a series of events put on to showcase the city as a hub for blockchain jobs. You could feel the excitement in the air with all the attendees and reporters jostling on the sidewalk. What's your take on all this hype?

JC: At one blockchain gathering there were a set of rented Lamborghinis parked outside to entice the traders and day traders and retail investors: this, too, can be yours if you hop aboard the blockchain and bitcoin bonanza!

I teach about a guy from the early 18th century called John Law. He was the architect of one of the great financial frauds of all time -- the Mississippi scheme of 1718-20 in Paris. (He's also the guy who founded New Orleans. He sent settlers there who named it after his benefactor, the Duc d'Orléans).

Law was the first person to write about the need for foreign governments to have fiat currencies and not be tethered to gold and silver. Because of the power of taxation and the power of the governments through enforcement and force of arms, they could enforce their currency to be used, and because of their ability to expand the monetary base and do all the kinds of things that central banks now do, it was in their best interest to do so.

This was revolutionary back then. Law's failed experiment, which added lots of fraudulent bells and whistles to that scheme in France, put the idea on the backburner for a while. But economic historians have revisited it now and his early papers are genius. They're up there with some of the stuff Keynes wrote in the 20th century in terms of the way he envisioned monetary systems to work. Law points out sort of obliquely the positive ways in which the citizenry would come to accept and trust paper money. Not only would the power of the state compel you to accept it, but the power of the state also acted as a third party to adjudicate problems, fraud and act as a lender of last resort in times of crisis instead of going down into a deflationary spiral. That was the positive side.

In the new bitcoin and crypto-craze, the whole idea is that we need to get away from fiat currencies by creating our own fiat currency for which there is no lender of last resort, no third party adjudicator. For those who believe it's a store of value in the coming apocalypse, the idea is that you're going to have to safeguard your key under a mountain with fingerprint and eye scan security while the hordes are outside your bunker trying to get in to use it -- for what, I have no idea. Because for those who believe that you need to own digital currency as a store of value in the worst-case scenario, that's exactly the case in which a digital currency will work the least. Food would work the best!

LP: Sounds like a libertarian fantasy.

JC: That's exactly what it is. And if you say, well, fiat currency is going to bring the world down, which could, of course, happen, then I say the last thing I'd want to own is bitcoin if the grid goes down.

LP: It also sounds like the perfect realm for people looking to commit fraud.

JC: Well, there you go. Bitcoin is still the area for people who are trying to avoid taxation or other examinations of their transactions. That's one thing where I think it probably still has utility, but the governments have figured that out.

Last year, just as the mania was really going, an early convert who had gotten in early and had made a lot of money wrote this humorous blog about trying to cash in his winnings, if you will. He chronicled telling the exchange that he wanted to convert his bitcoins into U.S. dollars and have them wired into his U.S. bank. It took something like eight or ten days and numerous follow-ups and phone calls. The funniest part was his having to fax his passport to Lithuania.

LP: That doesn't sound very high-tech or efficient.

JC: Exactly. Using a fax machine to Eastern Europe struck me as kind of the antithesis of what you're trying to do here. So this is simply a security speculation game masquerading as a technological breakthrough in monetary policy. Someone at Grant's interest rate conference recently said that it was as if we had intentionally created a "monetary Somalia."

LP: So buyer beware.

JC: I think so.

LP: You recently appeared in a fascinating documentary, " The China Hustle ," which concerns the reverse merger boom in which I believe 400 Chinese companies came to market on the U.S. stock exchange. Can you say a bit about what these mergers are and how U.S. investors got conned?

JC: A reverse merger is simply when the company in question merges into a defunct, U.S.-listed corporation, typically on NASDAQ, which has been moribund for years but has still been filing with the SEC, so it may have a listing somewhere.

We can see these reverse mergers in the late '90s when they became dot-com companies, and also in the late '70s, when gold was a hot asset and they became gold mining companies. In the last ten years, they started to appear to take advantage of the growth of Asia and the growth of China. It's very easy to sell small, retail investors on this idea. It sounds very appealing.

What happens is you merge the Happy Flower High Tech Company into some defunct company and you rename the old company with the Chinese name. Voila! The Chinese company is now public in the U.S. without having to file an IPO [initial public offering] prospectus with the SEC. You don't go through underwriters, a due diligence process, or a vetting process where the SEC asks questions on the IPO. But you now have a company on NASDAQ or the U.S. Stock Exchange.

This is what "The China Hustle" was about -- this raft of companies that merged with companies you've never heard of and created, instantaneously, reasonably large-capitalization companies operating in China but trading in the U.S. Of course, therein lies the rub. How do you really know what was going on in the operating company? How good was the accounting? How good were the representations of the outside auditors and representatives of the boards? It turned out that a lot of them were frauds.

LP: So I'm an investor and I hear that this Chinese company has come to market in the U.S. and it has been audited by Pricewaterhouse, Deloitte, or some other well-known auditing firm. I think it must be legit. What's wrong with this assumption?

JC: There are two big problems there. When people always ask me about the large frauds we've dealt with, they ask, who were the auditors? And I say, who cares? Every great fraud was basically audited, most of the time by major firms. In China it's even worse than that because although the statements might say Pricewaterhouse, if you read the fine print it actually says, "Pricewaterhouse reviewed the work by an affiliate in China." So it's often a smaller firm that has a relationship with the big firm that actually does the auditing. Pricewaterhouse just puts its stamp of approval on that.

LP: Sounds kind of like what the big credit ratings agencies did by giving triple-A ratings to securities that were fraudulent in the lead-up to the financial crisis.

JC: Right. But you have to remember that auditors are not the financial check that most people think they are. The financial statements are not prepared by auditors. The financial statements in publicly traded firms are prepared by management and the auditors review the statements. Unless they have reason to believe something is amiss or are pointed to something being amiss by a whistleblower or short seller or journalist, they're not going to detect anything most of the time.

LP: Auditors are not detectives.

JC: No they're not. They're really paid by the company to review the company's own financial statements. So at the end of the day, this still comes back to the management and the board. Do you trust them? Do you believe what they're telling you? What is your ability to check?

LP: In the case of the Happy Flower Company, I can't really check.

JC: Not only that, one of the points that the movie made very well was that even if you find the smoking gun and the chairman runs off with all the money and you're left with nothing, the recourse to western investors is virtually nil. None of these CEOs are prosecuted. The view of the Chinese court system, which, I should point out, is an arm of the Communist Party, not the Chinese state, is, "sorry, but no jurisdiction here. You're a western investor and you ought to know better."

LP: Can the SEC do anything?

JC: The SEC did announce a crackdown after the fact, but besides monitoring companies' ongoing disclosures and trying to halt trading in the securities if there is evidence of a problem, there isn't a lot that the SEC can do. These are Chinese companies.

LP: How do you view the climate for financial fraud under the Trump administration? I note that Trump's SEC nominee, who was sworn in as chair last May, was an Alibaba IPO advisor -- the Silicon Valley lawyer Jay Clayton. You've expressed skepticism about Alibaba.

JC: I have, and so far I've been wrong, at least with respect to the stock price. But I challenge anyone to explain to me cogently what Alibaba is doing with all its capital and flipping companies back and forth to insider and revaluing the prices of companies upward.

Be that as it may, the real issue is, what is the sense of the administration? I'll say one thing, when the George W. Bush administration started -- remember, he was the MBA president -- he came in on a pro-business platform and was seen as very pro-business and anti-regulation, similar to the Trump administration. But when the wave of fraud started hitting in '01 and '02, I have to give the John Ashcroft Justice Department a lot of credit. They did a 180 and went after the bad guys hard.

I always joke that the two presidents who have put more executives in jail than all the rest combined were both named Bush. W's father was instrumental in prosecuting the S&L [Saving and Loan] crooks back in the early '90s and put about 3,000 of them in jail. I think they realized that the public was losing money in the stock markets, not just because of the frauds, but because the long dot-com bull market had ended. People were upset. Then when you had the revelations of WorldCom and Enron on top of it, there was a sense that every corporation was crooked and this was going to have exogenous impacts on the economy and the market as a whole. I think they correctly realized that we've got to basically show that we're the cops on the beat. And they did.

That did not happen, as you well know, after the GFC [Global Financial Crisis], for lots of reasons, including a Justice Department that actually took the extraordinary step of admitting that it considered economic and financial market factors in figuring out when, or if, to prosecute a company. So justice now had an economic angle to it. We sort of know how we think about the Trump administration -- I noted the other day that the Education Department seems to have shut down its division investigating fraud at the for-profit education companies, which are one of the biggest cesspools out there in terms of financial fraud and fraud upon the taxpayer. So that's not a good sign. On the other hand, public opinion can move things quickly as it did in the Enron case. We saw a real stepped-up effort to go after the bad guys.

I think a lot depends on circumstances at the time. We're still in the expansionary phase of the financial cycle and, arguably, the fraud cycle, so we'll have to see what happens once that rolls over.

LP: Let's talk about emerging markets. Do you think a big crisis could develop as investors head back to the U.S. as the Federal Reserve raises rates here?

JC: The emerging markets are always sort of the end of the wick, right? They always go down the most when fear is out there and they go up the most when people are euphoric. Emerging markets had a really rough go of it from 2011 right on to 2015. They never really recovered a lot from the GFC. Then someone hit the light switch and whether it was things changing in Brazil or [former president] Jacob Zuma being ousted in South Africa or South America turning the corner. I would note that Argentina issued a one hundred-year bond a year ago that was oversubscribed, and this week Argentina went back hat in hand to the IMF [International Monetary Fund], so we've had this amazingly quick shot across the bow in the emerging markets. We'll see if it's the start of something bigger. But it's sort of amazing to me that after only a two-year respite, places like Argentina and Turkey seem to find themselves in trouble again. Time will tell.

LP: One thing you said in "The China Hustle" is that we've never seen a credit build-up like the one we've seen in China today that hasn't been followed by a major financial crisis. That sounds pretty worrisome.

JC: I'm always told confidently it won't matter because they owe it to themselves. Well, if that was that were the case, then Zimbabwe would be one of the wealthiest countries in the world today!

The build-up of China's debt and the speed of that build-up is nothing short of stunning. There's a new book that I recommend, " China's Great Wall of Debt ." It does a great job of chronicling just how massive this build-up has been in the last ten years following China's stimulus in '09 to pull the world out of the GFC. You've heard me call it the "treadmill to hell" because you have to put more and more debt on the books to keep the growth going and this is where China is finding itself. If they don't increase the debt, the economy hits stall speed and for all the talk about innovation and technology and transferring to a consumer-driven, technology-driven economy, the evidence on that is kind of scant. It's still basically an economy driven by debt-driven investment, which is still over 40% of GDP. I think when we started talk about China it was 46% and I think the most recent number is about 43%. So it's improved slightly over the eight or nine years, but not much.

China is still basically a giant construction site and shows no signs of changing. In fact, with the One Belt One Road Initiative [a project launched in 2013 to develop trade routes to connect China to the world], they're trying to basically export their construction capabilities and credit to countries along what we would call the Old Silk Road.

LP: In terms of the overall picture of fraud, are we any better off than we were after the financial crisis?

JC: Personally, I think we're worse off. I think we were better off after the dot-com era. Not because we enacted Sarbanes Oxley [passed by the U.S. Congress in 2002 to protect investors from fraudulent corporate accounting activities] but because the public saw that there was justice. The bad guys got caught and at least if I lost money, they paid the price of their freedom. That never happened in '08 and '09 for a variety of reasons. We've just had a continuation of the cycle and the cycle is still going.

LP: So fraudsters are emboldened?

JC: Right. And now we come back to bitcoin. What's your recourse if you lose money in an ICO traded on an exchange offshore? If people lose lots of money, there will be an outcry, but no recourse. So we're building into something. I suspect it's in front of us and it will be interesting to see what happens.

LP: What happens in a capitalist system to good people who want to behave ethically? How can they succeed in an atmosphere in which fraud and unethical behavior are constantly happening?

JC: I think capitalism is still the best game in town, but the very best games have good sets of rules, and, even more importantly, good umpires and referees. When the game becomes tilted and the house has the advantage, people tend to stop playing.

When the system is seen as corrupt or dishonest, there's a political price. We saw this after the GFC. People in New York and San Francisco and Boston might be fine with everything, but in the South and Midwest, where you're from and where I'm from, there's still this general sense that "the bastards got away with it and I'm still suffering." So there is an exogenous cost to this where people don't feel that there was justice. They feel that they were taken advantage of by those sharpies on the coasts. It brings out some of the worst in people, of course, so that's one small step, then, away from social problems like anti-Semitism and anti-immigrant feelings. It's us v. them. Nobody is looking after us.

Economists and financial analysts have a hard time quantifying all these things, but I think that the point is that fair markets where there's a set of rules, where there's a cop on the beat, where there are regulators making sure that people are adhering to the rules, are far better markets than one in which caveat emptor is written above the casino. I think it behooves us as a society to understand that capitalism is an amazing driver of progress and prosperity and wealth, but it can be diverted. There's a dark side to it if we don't play by the rules and if we don't encourage capital formation from all members of society who don't feel they're getting a fair shake.

Everybody gets that capitalism involves risk-taking. But the asymmetric situation where people who are dishonest get away with it while people who are honest and provide capital get left holding the bag will really stunt capitalism. I think that's the issue which the vigilance on fraud, why it's so important. It is part of the capitalistic system. There will always be people trying to take advantage of other people. It's still better than when the whole system is flawed, like totalitarian communism, where corruption starts at the very top in terms of the planning itself. But on the other hand, the counterfactual is that it could be so much better if everybody is participating and understands that there is a strong set of rules and penalties when you break them and justice as well. That's what I think has been lacking in the last generation.


ChrisAtRU , June 5, 2018 at 10:57 am

Ha! Timely from Izabella Kaminska today:

Only in cryptocurrency can an enterprise that calls itself "ethical" be represented by someone who is both an "award winning journalist" and "PR relations" pic.twitter.com/9lMcXPWSb3 -- Izabella Kaminska (@izakaminska) June 5, 2018

flora , June 5, 2018 at 11:55 am

Tasnim should have contacted Osborne's London Evening Standard, not the FT. ;)

Ignacio , June 5, 2018 at 12:15 pm

Ethical cryptocurrency!!!
Sounds great, hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

So, we have learned two things lately about things that will happen when the crisis unfolds:

– There is high risk for a deflationary wage spiral
– The fraudsters won't be (again) prosecuted

ChrisAtRU , June 5, 2018 at 6:37 pm

Don't laugh so soon This came across my Twitter feed a couple days ago, and I was a little taken aback.

I really like the idea of community currencies, but I'm wondering why on earth you'd want to get them tangled up with blockchain for the purpose of trading/conversion ?

Needless to say, the usual suspects have chimed in.

#HowCanIMakeMoney

Just make a Global CC and have that be that or am I oversimplifying this? #OrHaveIMissedSomething

PS: I also take exception to using the term Bancor as well, given what it's original purpose was. Not too sure #JMK would be down with the blockchain .

Lambert Strether , June 5, 2018 at 11:39 am

I think of "The Bezzle" as the happy time between hubris and nemesis.

Wukchumni , June 5, 2018 at 12:21 pm

Why wouldn't a Zimbabwe type country embrace cryptocurrency as money of the iRealm?

Seems like it wouldn't be that hard to get outsiders to believe in it, as long as it was pretty vague, and most wouldn't know that the very same country issued $100 Trillion banknotes not so long ago.

Synoia , June 5, 2018 at 1:42 pm

Why wouldn't a Zimbabwe type country embrace cryptocurrency as money of the iRealm?

Because 50% of the people DO NOT HAVE ELECTRICITY.

If the do have electricity, they cannot afford to Verify a Cryptocurrency.

Before making comments about 3rd world countries, visit a few, a look outside the tourist areas.

Soweto or Alexandria near Joburg, or the Township on the East side of Boksburg in South Africa.

Or The area near Apapa, Nigeria close to the Mobil Tank Farm.

Wukchumni , June 5, 2018 at 1:48 pm

as if you need a physical location within a country, in order to make cryptos~

They're mining bitcoins in Inner Mongolia, for instance.

Wukchumni , June 5, 2018 at 2:14 pm

p.s.

Zimbabwe didn't need printing facilities when they were cranking out oodles of currency, as it was all printed in Germany. (who got stiffed on payment, if memory serves)

Jim Haygood , June 5, 2018 at 12:25 pm

'John Law was the first person to write about the need for foreign governments to have fiat currencies and not be tethered to gold and silver. Law's failed experiment, which added lots of fraudulent bells and whistles to that scheme in France, put the idea on the back burner for a while. But economic historians have revisited it now and his early papers are genius.' -- Jim Chanos

This is bizarre historical revisionism. John Law didn't add "fraudulent bells and whistles" -- fraud was the whole point of fiat currencies, then [1720 -- Mississippi bubble] and now.

Fiat currencies were born in original sin, that is. When Bubble III blows like Kilauea, the central banksters who engineered this global calamity may find themselves (like Law) involuntarily expatriated by angry mobs of peasants with pitchforks.

Got gold?

PKMKII , June 5, 2018 at 2:11 pm

Currency is born in sin, and may only be cleansed by the divine power of God, err, Gold. Only by having supreme faith in its shininess will your economy be saved. Do not question how or why, as Gold works in mysterious way. Au men.

diptherio , June 5, 2018 at 3:55 pm

That's the best pun I've seen in awhile!

skippy , June 5, 2018 at 4:07 pm

I don't understand Jim . central banks have been staffed largely by monetarist and quasi monetarists throughout the entire neoliberal period. Then you have the vast majority of the politicians holding the same view.

But anyway I thought quality held true in both cases, so what agenda threatened the quality of fiat – at onset. I mean what mob forwarded all the innovation [tm], completely ignored poor or criminal underwriting standards, completely miss-priced risk, was completely oblivious to obvious gaming everything for "personal" profit.

I really can't see how fiat forced some people to act in such an anti social manner by its will alone. I mean that sort of broad social dominance is usually reserved for social narratives.

Sorry but I really never understood the logic behind the money did it thingy .

Isotope_C14 , June 5, 2018 at 1:40 pm

"like totalitarian communism"

I do wonder about folks who describe alternative forms of governance with a very clear lack of understanding of political/economic arrangements.

You can't really have a totalitarian communism. Chanos should do some history homework on what the USSR was, and why the system was doomed to fail starting all the way back with Lenin. Lenin didn't believe that the Russians were ready for the revolution, he considered it a holding pattern waiting for the revolution to happen in Germany.

Just because you (or an autocrat like Stalin) call something a communism or socialism, doesn't make it so.

"But the asymmetric situation where people who are dishonest get away with it while people who are honest and provide capital get left holding the bag will really stunt capitalism."

Good. I can't think of any better evidence that the system is archaic and if left unchecked eats itself. Chanos might think about re-reading some Marx.

Tim , June 5, 2018 at 2:38 pm

Brilliant!

Sadly, there will be plenty of people LFIN right up to the coming RIOT as a consequence of the autopiloted crash from the fraud.

Micky9finger , June 5, 2018 at 2:46 pm

Whenever i get to Zimbabwe in an article i stop reading.
A sure sign the economics is going off the rails into neoliberalism and argle bargle.

Rates , June 5, 2018 at 4:11 pm

"I'm always told confidently it won't matter because they owe it to themselves." Isn't that the basis of MMT? Heck, that means Murica is heading towards eternal prosperity.

djrichard , June 5, 2018 at 4:31 pm

I'm still wondering if the long game is to use a crypto currency as a petro currency, to supplant the US dollar. That way, countries (and corporations) with trade surpluses with the US can hoard their surpluses in the crypto-cum-petro currency rather than US assets (bonds and stocks). In an asset that has neutrality with respect to any nation state. Just like gold used to have.

djrichard , June 5, 2018 at 4:42 pm

There's a book that suggests this line of thinking, but doesn't really seem to chase it down adequately: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BPM3GZQ . See review on Frances Coppola's website.

RBHoughton , June 5, 2018 at 7:34 pm

There is a 25 minute clip here that describes the creation of money and the recording of transactions (the blockchain) and does not seem fraudulent in any way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBC-nXj3Ng4

[May 03, 2018] A sovereign that HAS NO DEBT IN A FOREIGN CURRENCY has zero risk of insolvency

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karlof1 | May 2, 2018 5:28:28 PM | 175

WJ @172--

Just when during WW1 the British determined they were going to be backstabbed by their American cousins is unknown to me, but hopefully my unfinished research into that era will provide an answer. Clearly, Keynes knew what would occur as he observed the proceedings at Versailles, which prompted him to go to Marseilles to write Consequences. I greatly disagree with most of Wikipedia's discussion of Consequences except for this bit in the intro:

"In his book, he argued for a much more generous peace, not out of a desire for justice or fairness – these are aspects of the peace that Keynes does not deal with – but for the sake of the economic well-being of all of Europe, including the Allied Powers, which the Treaty of Versailles and its associated treaties would prevent. [My Emphasis]

Thanks to Wilson's stroke, we'll never know how he really felt about the last months of his administration; his wife becoming the first de facto female president of the USA. One of the better indicators about the nascent Deep States's feeling about Versailles is their behavior during the 1920s as it laid the ground work for the Great Depression's onslaught with Dollar Diplomacy and Teapot Dome exemplifying its moral compass. Prohibition's gangsters and coppers provided the required distraction of the masses until the money vanished. Then came radio, the beginnings of mass media and onset of media conglomeration.

paulmeli , May 2, 2018 6:07:44 PM | 176

james @ 166
i think what is missing in your analysis "how governments that print their own currency such as US, UK and China can print as much as they want and use it as they like" is the key acknowledgement that the us$ has been used as world currency.

and Canada.

The US $ is the World Currency because the US is the only country in the World that exports it's currency more than $0.5 Trillion/year. Like a virus really. It's that simple if the US didn't export $ it wouldn't be the reserve currency.

The other part about sovereigns being able to "print all they want" is a falsehood without context.

First of all, when people refer to "printing" it usually means "spending" although I'm not sure they think of it in those terms. The actual printing of physical currency/coins moves money from checking accounts in the banking system to petty cash accounts. No new money is created by that kind of "printing". About 2% of US $ is coins or currency, the rest exists only on balance sheets.

Secondly, a sovereign is able to buy anything for sale in it's own currency as long as the resource being bought exists and is for sale. You can't buy something that doesn't exist. The constraint on money creation is resources not arithmetic, which is the most widely misunderstood characteristic of fiat currencies.

Further, a sovereign that HAS NO DEBT IN A FOREIGN CURRENCY has zero risk of insolvency there is no liability (in it's own currency) a sovereign cannot satisfy. The US holds no foreign debt. Nor does Canada, Australia, Japan, UK, etc. as far as I know. Every member in the Eurozone is a de-facto holder of foreign debt (the Euro member countries cannot freely create Euro's. They are more like private borrowers).

gov'ts were in a position to print their own money and not have to pay interest thru the private banking sector for it.

James, this is another myth unless you are talking about the Eurozone. The US Federal government does not pay interest to the banking sector, it pays interest to holders of Treasury securities. To do so was a CHOICE not a requirement. Paying interest on previously created monies was voluntary. Congress created the banking system (for the US) through the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, which created and governs the banking system, and chose to pay interest later after WWI I believe (probably as a give-away to bankers who didn't think they made enough money off of WWi). MRW knows a lot more about this history if he's around.

Interest paid on the "debt" (all money is debt, interest or not by definition) is a net transfer of funds to the private sector (those who hold Treasury securities). Those funds increase the money supply. Anyone can hold Treasury securities, not just banks. They are a risk-free investment vehicle (the only one).

Further, it is the Fed that sets interest rates, not the bond-holders ("bond vigilantes") as they are referred to. 10 years of zero-interest rates post 2008 should be proof enough of that.

Treasury securities (bonds) move $ from a checking account at the Fed to a savings account at the FED. They are $ that earn interest. This is all explained in the Mosler pdf I linked to.

In double-entry accounting a National Debt™ for the government is NATIONAL SAVINGS for the citizens, as are the interest payments. All this worry about sovereign debt is silliness. Without sovereign debt the currency of issue wouldn't exist. Sovereign debt is our money (although the elites won't let us acquire much of it).

ashley albanese , May 2, 2018 6:40:23 PM | 177
May2 172

Of course the Marxist critique of and challenge to Capitalism was central in all this ! The West was competing with the East ( simplifying)and when this situation changed with Anglo Hegemony 1990 , these balances that had seen overall development towards the 'welfare state ' disintegrated .

Once the U S got its opportunistic run at this situation, crudely grasping for further power we rapidly reached the present situation , with its repeat of World War scenarios , as competing economic / militarised blocs do exactly that !

paulmeli , May 2, 2018 6:49:08 PM | 178
@ SteveK9 @ 160

Yes, Mosler not being an economist is a feature, not a bug. I agree, economists are idiots, but I suspect they're paid idiots. What's the Upton Sinclair quote ?

From where I sit MMT savvy economists are not idiots. They are however outcasts. If your not an insider you're an outsider, and outsiders don't get to make the big money, if they don't starve.

Here's a video excerpt regarding our pre-eminent economist Paul Krugman lest you think he isn't in on the con:

"Never Touch the Money System"

james , May 2, 2018 7:51:46 PM | 179
@176 paulmeli.. thanks.. i had to read your comment a few times, and it still isn't sinking in fully.. i am getting some of it, but maybe it is my conspiracy run brain that wants to know how we've been screwed over by the banks.. that is what i believe has happened...MRW.. haven't seen him in a good while.. every time he would come all my negative stereo types about the private banking sector were put on hold, as i recall!

i think a lot of this has to do with exporting / importing between countries... especially the part about holding foreign debt.. how does another country pay for something? this is why we read today of how russia, china and iran are getting into financial arrangements whereby they don't have to go thru the us$.. wasn't this a good part of the reason the usa went to war in iraq, or libya? iraq and libya wanted to trade in euros, as opposed to us$.. well - hopefully MRW can come and bring me back to reality! it seems the world financial markets are one big ponzi scheme... think of the derivative markets.. one is not trading in some actual commodity.. it is increasingly opaque and shrouded in speculation, while run on computers...

i am sorry paul, but i can only go so far in my understanding here.. as i understand it, something is very wrong in the financial system at present.. it is also the reason these financial sanction games are typically a lead up to war... one group has undue power and influence over the worlds finances - the usa - and they exercise this clout via sanctions, and if that doesn't work - war / regime change - etc. etc... obviously i am missing something here, but i will be damned if i buy the official hokum from an economist! thanks for trying to educate me.. n

Josh , May 2, 2018 7:56:05 PM | 180
I despise Netanyahu but please change the headline from Netanyahoo as Yahoo was used as an antisemtic slur in the past. I'm sure the author was not aware of this outdated meaning but it does the cause harm. Thank you.
paulmeli , May 2, 2018 8:07:23 PM | 181
james @ 179
something is very wrong in the financial system at present..

I think it's always been this way but now the corruption is so out in the open it seems like it's worse. I'm not sure it is.

The way finance corrupts is that obscene riches are offered to state leaders to sell out their own citizens for pennies on the dollar. And they do it, because if they don't regime change will follow. It's similar to the way corporate raiders take over businesses, sell off the assets and load the business up with debt, then sell what's left. With all of that debt said business has no chance of success. A handful of financial guys (parasites of the worse kind) walk away with the cash.

Corporate strip-mining - the business plan is simple and it's always the same - no matter if it's a business or a country.

david hogg , May 2, 2018 8:23:36 PM | 182
Something to keep in mind about all of this Iran business is that Trump can now move full speed ahead with Bolton and Pompeo in place. I find it oddly comforting that, generally speaking, Trump and his administration make no attempt to cloak their psychopathy in coded language. I thought these remarks from Pompeo yesterday as he addressed the lackeys at Foggy Bottom yesterday particularly illuminating in this regard:

"I talked at my hearing about the fact that this nation is so exceptional, and so incredibly blessed and the facts that derive from that are that it also creates a responsibility, a duty for America all across the world. And I know for certain that America can't execute that duty, can't achieve its objectives absent you all. Absent executing America's foreign policy in every corner of the world with incredible vigor and incredible energy. And I look forward to helping you all advance that."

spudski , May 2, 2018 8:44:26 PM | 183
paulmeli @ 181

Excellent précis of corporate/country asset stripping.

Pft , May 2, 2018 9:16:21 PM | 184
@paulmeli 176

Money supply increases with debt creation and decreases with debt payment. Wipe out all debt and money supply is zero. Taking out a loan is an example of money creation. The money does not exist in the system till its deposited into your account. Paying off the mortgage depletes the money supply.

Its true that the government does not pay interest on money the Fed loans them. Thats why so little is loaned directly to the government until the last crash. Money is not created by interest. That money does not exist without new debt. The government borrows the money to pay the interest.

A key reason the US is the reserve currency is OPEC. OPEC serves Big Oil interests which is interlocked with Big Banking and requires purchases of Oil to be in USD. Hence the name Petro Dollar. OPEC may produce the oil but its The Big Oil (4 sisters) that transports most of it to market, refines much of it and provides the equipment for OPEC members to get the oil out of the ground.

We also export a tremendous amount of food that requires payment in USD, and US manufacturing is now in China and consumer debt allows us to purchase a great amount of goods from China in USD. Manufacturers in China need to pay expenses in RMB so sell USD to Chinese banks. Chinas Central Bank Prints up RMB at no interest to buy the USD and then loans it to the US at interest.

Its a perfect system and is basically why the USD will never fail unless those in control want it to.

[Mar 23, 2018] How money work

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Posted by: Allen | Mar 22, 2018 9:02:51 PM | 42


Allen , Mar 22, 2018 9:02:51 PM | 42

An Imaginary Conversation....

A modern fellow of genus Homo protests his innocence. "I don't work because I worked much harder before", says he. "I labored for ten years at a crap job earning $30,000 per year and that earned me the right to live in miserable conditions in which the loss of my job would have made me destitute in weeks. But, I was not content to labor as my fellows. I got a second job at $20,000 per year and I was so thrifty that I spent not a penny of it but banked it all so that at the end of my time I had $300,000, a princely sum. I invested it wisely at 10% and now I can live for the rest of my life, if modestly, off the proceeds of only my own sweat, my own thriftiness, and my own discipline. And, if there was any luck to it - in my not facing misfortune or ill health or any other calamity - that was the product of my own luck too. I owe nothing to anyone. What I have is due to myself alone, and those who have much more than I, it seems to me that they must have arrived at it the same as I, perhaps over generations. What is this social power you speak of when it is only individual labor and individual property that stems from it? It seems to me that you merely envy that which you are too lazy to earn for yourself."

"My dear independent fellow" says we, "let us understand the simple arithmetic of your claims. If your story is as you say and we ignore all else that you report, still at the end of ten years, we see only $200,000. And, if you continue to live at this admittedly low level, nevertheless, you will have run through your entire accumulated proceeds in only 6 years and eight months. More than this, by your accounting, it would take one and a third lifetimes to create a single lifetime without labor, and this at the exceedingly low standards and exceptionally favorable circumstances that you assume. How then are we to explain those who live without labor for generations, and this at a thousand or ten thousand times times the level that you report? How many generations of 'thrift' and 'hard work' would this require? What you claim is impossible for you and beyond impossibility for those who live above you. Where is this magic of 'individual labor and individual property' that you speak of?"

"But you forget interest", protests our friend. "My money makes money, and simply by the act of having some which is not consumed in day to day living, that which I save is augmented. It is this which grants me my independence."

"We forget as much as your money 'makes'," answers we, "which is nothing at all. Set your money on the table and leave it there for as long as you like. Nothing happens to it. It remains the same. It is only by setting it in motion as capital that anything whatever is 'made' and that 'making' is the product of labor, the same as your own. Your interest comes from the command of the labor of others, just as your own was once commanded and after 6 years and eight months not a speck of 'hard work', 'thrift', 'good luck' or 'wisdom' is left. Neither is there any trace of 'independence' or 'personal property' You now live by the labor of others... by the transformation of your pitiful 'savings' into Capital, no matter how small the sum. It is your ability to command the labor of others as a social power that gives you your ability and that you have a poor man's caricature of that process changes nothing other than to lay fraudulent your claims to the right. You might as well claim innate superiority or the right of the sword as did the slave master or the god-given hierarchy of obligations of the lord or even the phases of the moon, if you like. You eat without working because you have maneuvered yourself into a position in which others work to feed you. You are the opposite of what you claim."

"You're just trying to make me feel bad.", says our friend.

"We don't give a shit how you feel", says we. "It is modest enough what you do... just as you claim. It is your willingness to ignore what is closer to your face than your nose that we tire of. "

Our friend orders another beer and pretends to watch the hockey game though he would be hard pressed to name two players on either team.

Capital is therefore not only personal; it is a social power.

There it is...

psychohistorian , Mar 23, 2018 12:06:52 AM | 68
@ jivno who keeps asking how money works

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-federal-reserve-cartel-the-eight-families/25080

hojo , Mar 23, 2018 4:11:22 AM | 78
jinvo @48
Here's an interesting 144-slide presentation on "Modern Monetary Theory" from J.D. Alt .

[Mar 22, 2018] It is my opinion that China, Russia, Iran, and probably additional countries decided to make a move after the brazen 2003 invasion of Iraq by the U.S. and others, and the massive financial fraud partly exposed in the U.S. and Britain in 2008 and afterwards, which fraud was not stopped and the perpetrators were bailed out and none were prosecuted.

Notable quotes:
"... China, Russia, et. al. realized that the debt-saturated U.S. was propped up by the fact that the U.S. "dollar" was the reserve banking and trading currency of the entire world and that the "Petrodollar" was one of the main pillars of it, and that this system was the main source of U.S. influence and power around the world and allowed the U.S. and friends to impose financial sanctions on other countries. They also saw that the U.S. was not using gold or silver as a type of support or backup for the financial system. Therefore, they developed their own computer servers to route orders between banks and financial companies that will operate outside of the SWIFT system dominated by the U.S. It is now operational and is called CIPS (Cross-Border Interbank Payment System)-- ..."
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robt willmann 21 March 2018 at 01:43 PM

John Minnerath,

In addition to the common desire of some (or many) human beings to exercise authority over other groups of people, I think Xi Jinping and his supporters want to complete the large and complex economic and financial projects they have started. It is not just the road and railroad and other infrastructure projects tied to the regional trading structure China has been working on, but a financial structure independent of the existing banking and financial system that was put together by the U.S. and Britain.

It is my opinion that China, Russia, Iran, and probably additional countries decided to make a move after the brazen 2003 invasion of Iraq by the U.S. and others, and the massive financial fraud partly exposed in the U.S. and Britain in 2008 and afterwards, which fraud was not stopped and the perpetrators were bailed out and none were prosecuted.

China, Russia, et. al. realized that the debt-saturated U.S. was propped up by the fact that the U.S. "dollar" was the reserve banking and trading currency of the entire world and that the "Petrodollar" was one of the main pillars of it, and that this system was the main source of U.S. influence and power around the world and allowed the U.S. and friends to impose financial sanctions on other countries. They also saw that the U.S. was not using gold or silver as a type of support or backup for the financial system. Therefore, they developed their own computer servers to route orders between banks and financial companies that will operate outside of the SWIFT system dominated by the U.S. It is now operational and is called CIPS (Cross-Border Interbank Payment System)--

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2015-10/08/content_22127404.htm

https://sputniknews.com/business/201603091036035210-vtb-bank-payment/

In addition, they are moving to break the Petrodollar. In the early 1970's, the U.S. made a non-treaty deal with Saudi Arabia that if they got the rest of OPEC to sell oil and gas to the whole world only in U.S. dollars and would plough some of the money back into U.S. government debt and into the stock market casino, the U.S. would protect the Saudi ruling family so it could run the entire country as its private business. This forced the whole world to get U.S. dollars in order to buy oil and gas, which further put the dollar in as banking reserves around the world, which further pushed the dollar into being used to settle much of the trade between countries.

However, now some contracts are being made to buy and sell oil and gas not in the U.S. dollar, but in other currencies, especially the Chinese renminbi (a/k/a yuan). Also, both China and Russia have been buying large amounts of gold for several years. To get around some of the U.S. sanctions prior to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), Iran sold oil and gas in exchange for gold. Since gold is not a government created and ordered "fiat" money, it cannot be choked off by the SWIFT system or controlled through numbers on computer hard drives in banks.

Russia also remembers what happened after the collapse of the Soviet Union when the U.S. financial "experts" [sic] went there to set up a "wonderful" market-based economy, but what happened of course was the creation of a system to loot Mother Russia and establish a new oligarchy tied in with the U.S., Britain, and Israel.

In the early 1990's when the Soviet Union pulled out of eastern Europe, the U.S. had a chance to help the world be a safer and more peaceful place. The methods of medical diagnosis and surgical technology developed in the U.S. could have been the basis of a new foreign policy that would have voluntarily opened doors across the world.

But it was not to be. The desire of some to be king of the world pushed the chance of improvement aside. Nevertheless, today even autocratic governments see that having financial and governmental options can be a beneficial thing.

And to our immediate south, a movement has been going on for a while in Mexico to establish a money based on silver, promoted by Hugo Salinas Price and others--

http://www.plata.com.mx/enUS/More/322?idioma=2

For obvious reasons, I am not optimistic about Mexico, the deterioration of which has been a sad thing to see. It needs a new and real revolution.

Xi's move is not a unilateral thing. He had to have the support of the ruling committees in China. Keep your eye on the financial structure, gold, and silver.

[Mar 22, 2018] I've been waiting to see what happens with the SDR (Special Drawing Right). The IMF (International Monetary Fund) added it to the SDR basket in October 2016 after a lot of foot dragging by the US.

Notable quotes:
"... I see the global monetary reset currently underway as the slowly moving, but unstoppable, glacier that is forcing all other events. ..."
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EEngineer -> robt willmann... 21 March 2018 at 04:14 PM

I've been waiting to see what happens with the SDR (Special Drawing Right). The IMF (International Monetary Fund) added it to the SDR basket in October 2016 after a lot of foot dragging by the US. The AIIB (Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank) was setup largely as a Chinese alternative to the US dominated IMF and World Bank because they were not being given an appropriate "place at the table" in the IMF, which was founded as part of the Bretton Woods Agreement at the end of WWII.

I see the global monetary reset currently underway as the slowly moving, but unstoppable, glacier that is forcing all other events.

[Feb 05, 2018] Blockchain: what it is, what it does, and why you probably don't need one by Scott Adams Interest in blockchain is at a fever pitch lately. This is in large part due to the eye-popping price dy...

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[Feb 05, 2018] Link to my past posts on the subject of Bitcoin and Blockchain

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Sunday, January 21, 2018 Blockchain: what it is, what it does, and why you probably don't need one

Dilbert - by Scott Adams
Interest in blockchain is at a fever pitch lately. This is in large part due to the eye-popping price dynamics of Bitcoin --the original bad-boy cryptocurrency--which everyone knows is powered by blockchain ...whatever that is. But no matter. Given that even big players like Goldman Sachs are getting into the act (check out their super slick presentation here: Blockchain--The New Technology of Trust ) maybe it's time to figure out what all the fuss is about. What follows is based on my slide deck which I recently presented at the Olin School of Business at a Blockchain Panel (I will link up to video as soon as it becomes available)

Things are a little confusing out there I think in part because not enough care is taken in defining terms before assessing pros and cons. And when terms are defined, they sometimes include desired outcomes as a part of their definition. For example, blockchain is often described as consisting of (among other things) an immutable ledger. This is like defining a titanic to be an unsinkable ship.

So what do people mean when they bandy about the term blockchain ? I recently had a chance to learn about the project from a corporate perspective as represented by Ed Corno of IBM (see IBM Blockchain ), the other member of the panel I mentioned above. From Ed's slide deck we have the following definition:

Blockchain: a shared, replicated, permissioned ledger with consensus, provenance, immutability and finality.
Well, if this is what blockchain is, then maybe I want one too! The issue I have with this definition (apart from the fact that it confounds descriptive elements with desired outcomes) is that it glosses over what I consider to be an important defining characteristic of blockchain: the consensus mechanism. Loosely speaking, there are two ways to achieve consensus. One is reputation-based (trust) and the other is game-based (trustless).

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the corporate versions of blockchain are likely to stick to the standard model of reputation-based accounting. In this case, the efficiency gains of "blockchain" boil down to the gains associated with making databases more synchronized across trading partners, more cryptographically secure, more visible, more complete, etc. In short, there is nothing revolutionary or radical going on here -- it's just the usual advancement of the technology and methods associated with the on-going problem of database management. Labeling the endeavor blockchain is alright, I guess. It certainly makes for good marketing!

On the other hand, game-based blockchains--like the one that power Bitcoin--are, in my view, potentially more revolutionary. But before I explain why I think this, I want to step back a bit and describe my bird's eye view of what's happening in this space.

A Database of Individual Action Histories

The type of information that concerns us here is not what one might label "knowledge," say, as in the recipe for a nuclear bomb. The information in question relates more to a set of events that have happened in the past, in particular, events relating to individual actions. Consider, for example, "David washed your car two days ago." This type of information is intrinsically useless in the sense that it is not usable in any productive manner. In addition to work histories like this, the same is true of customer service histories, delivery/receipt histories, credit histories, or any performance-related history. And yet, people value such information. It forms the bedrock of reputation and perhaps even of identity. As such, it is frequently used as a form of currency.

Why is intrinsically useless history of this form valued? A monetary theorist may tell you it's because of a lack of commitment or a lack of trust (see Evil is the Root of All Money ). If people could be relied upon to make good on their promises a priori , their track records would largely be irrelevant from an economic perspective. A good reputation is a form of capital. It is valued because it persuades creditors ( believers ) that more reputable agencies are more likely to make good on their promises. We keep our money in a bank not because we think bankers are angels, but because we believe the long-term franchise value of banking exceeds the short-run benefit a bank would derive from appropriating our funds. (Well, that's the theory, at least. Admittedly, it doesn't work perfectly.)

Note something important here. Because histories are just information, they can be created "out of thin air." And, indeed, this is the fundamental source of the problem: people have an incentive to fabricate or counterfeit individual histories (their own and perhaps those of others) for a personal gain that comes at the expense of the community. No society can thrive, let alone survive, if its members have to worry excessively about others taking credit for their own personal contributions to the broader community. I'm writing this blog post in part (well, perhaps mainly) because I'm hoping to get credit for it.

Since humans (like bankers) are not angels, what is wanted is an honest and immutable database of histories (defined over a set of actions that are relevant for the community in question). Its purpose is to eliminate false claims of sociable behavior (acts which are tantamount to counterfeiting currency). Imagine too eliminating the frustration of discordant records. How much time is wasted in trying to settle "he said/she said" claims inside and outside of law courts? The ultimate goal, of course, is to promote fair and efficient outcomes. We may not want something like this creepy Santa Claus technology , but something similar defined over a restricted domain for a given application would be nice.

Organizing History

Let e(t) denote a set of events, or actions (relevant to the community in question), performed by an individual at date t = 1,2,3,... An individual history at date t is denoted

h(t-1) = { e(t-1), e(t-2), ..., e(0) }, t = 1,2,3,...

Aggregating over individual events, we can let E(t) denote the set of individual actions at date t, and let H(t-1) denote the communal history, that is, the set of individual histories of people belonging to the community in question:

H(t-1) = { E(t-1), E(t-2), ... , E(0) }, t = 1,2,3,...

Observe that E(t) can be thought of as a "block" of information (relating to a set of actions taken by members of the community at date t). If this is so, then H(t-1) consists of time-stamped blocks of information connected in sequence to form a chain of blocks. In this sense, any database consisting of a complete history of (community-relevant) events can be thought of as a "blockchain."

Note that there are other ways of organizing history. For example, consider a cash-based economy where people are anonymous and let e(t) denote acquisitions of cash (if positive) or expenditures of cash (if negative). Then an individual's cash balances at the beginning of date t is given by h(t-1) = e(t-1) + e(t-2) + ... + e(0). This is the sense in which " money is memory ." Measuring a person's worth by how much money they have serves as a crude summary statistic of the net contributions they've made to society in the past (assuming they did not steal or counterfeit the money, of course). Another way to organize history is to specify h(t-1) = { e(t-1) }. This is the "what have you done for me lately?" model of remembering favors. The possibilities are endless. But an essential component of blockchain is that it contains a complete history of all community-relevant events. (We could perhaps generalize to truncated histories if data storage is a problem.)

Database Management Systems (DBMS) and the Read/Write Privilege

Alright then, suppose that a given community (consisting of people, different divisions within a firm, different firms in a supply chain, etc.) wants to manage a chained-block of histories H(t-1) over time. How is this to be done?

Along with a specification of what is to constitute the relevant information to be contained in the database, any DBMS will have to specify parameters restricting:

1. The Read Privilege (who, what, and how);
2. The Write Privilege (who, what, and how).

That is, who gets to gets to read and write history? Is the database to be completely open, like a public library? Or will some information be held in locked vaults, accessible only with permission? And if by permission, how is this to be granted? By a trusted person, by algorithm, or some other manner? Even more important is the question of who gets to write history. As I explained earlier, the possibility for manipulation along this dimension is immense. How to guard against to attempts to fabricate history?

Historically, in "small" communities (think traditional hunter-gatherer societies) this was accomplished more or less automatically. There are no strangers in a small, isolated village and communal monitoring is relatively easy. Brave deeds and foul acts alike, unobserved by some or even most, rapidly become common knowledge. This is true even of the small communities we belong to today (at work, in clubs, families, friends, etc.). Kocherlakota (1996) labels H(t-1) in this scenario "societal memory." I like to think of it as a virtual database of individual histories living in a distributed ledger of brains talking to each other in a P2P fashion, with additions to, and maintenance of, the shared history determined through a consensus mechanism. In this primitive DBMS, read and write privileges are largely open, the latter being subject to consensus. It all sounds so.. . blockchainy.

While the primitive "blockchain" described above works well enough for small societies, it doesn't scale very well. Today, the traditional local networks of human brains have been augmented (and to some extent replaced) by a local and global networks of computers capable of communicating over the Internet. Achieving rapid consensus in a large heterogeneous community characterized by a vast flows of information is a rather daunting task.

The "solution" to this problem has largely taken the form of proprietary databases with highly restricted read privileges managed by trusted entities who are delegated the write privilege. The double-spend problem for digital money, for example, is solved by delegating the record-keeping task to a bank, located within a banking system, performing debit/credit operations on a set of proprietary ledgers connected to a central hub (a clearing agency) typically managed by a central bank.

The Problem and the Blockchain Solution

Depending on your perspective, the system that has evolved to date is either (if you are born before 1980) a great improvement over how things operated when we were young, or (if you are born post 1980) a hopelessly tangled hodgepodge of networks that have trouble communicating with each other and are intolerably vulnerable to data breaches (see figure below, courtesy Ed Corno of IBM).


The solution to this present state of affairs is presented as blockchain (defined earlier) which Ed depicts in the following way,
Well sure, this looks like a more organized way to keep the books and clear up communication channels, though the details concerning how consensus is achieved in this system remain a little hazy to me. As I mentioned earlier, I'm guessing that it'll be based on some reputation-based mechanism. But if this is the case, then why can't we depict the solution in the following way?


That is, gather all the agents and agencies interacting with each other, forming them into a more organized community, but keep it based on the traditional client-server (or hub-and-spoke) model. In the center, we have the set of trusted "historians" (bankers, accountants, auditors, database managers, etc.) who are granted the write-privilege. Communications between members may be intermediated either by historians or take place in a P2P manner with the historians listening in. The database can consist of the chain-blocked sets of information (blockchain) H(t-1) described above. The parameters governing the read-privilege can be determined beforehand by the needs of the community. The database could be made completely open--which is equivalent to rendering it shared. And, of course, multiple copies of the database can be made as often as is deemed necessary.

The point I'm making is, if we're ultimately going to depend on reputation-based consensus mechanisms, then we need no new innovation (like blockchain) to organize a database. While I'm no expert in the field of database management, it seems to me that standard protocols, for example, in the form of SQL Server 2017 , can accommodate what is needed technologically and operationally (if anyone disagrees with me on this matter, please comment below).

Extending the Write Privilege: Game-Based Consensus

As explained above, extending the read-privilege is not a problem technologically. We are all free to publish our diaries online, creating a shared-distributed ledger of our innermost thoughts. Extending the write-privilege to unknown or untrusted parties, however, is an entirely different matter. Of course, this depends in part on the nature of the information to be stored. Wikipedia seems to work tolerably well. But its hard to use Wikipedia as currency. This is not the case with personal action histories. You don't want other people writing your diary!

Well, fine, so you don't trust "the Man." What then? One alternative is to game the write privilege. The idea is to replace the trusted historian with a set of delegates drawn from the community (a set potentially consisting of the entire community). Next, have these delegates play a validation/consensus game designed in such a way that the equilibrium (say, Nash or some other solution concept ) strategy profile chosen by each delegate at every date t = 1,2,3,... entails: (1) No tampering with recorded history H(t-1); and (2) Only true blocks E(t) are validated and appended to the ledger H(t-1).

What we have done here is replace one type of faith for another. Instead of having faith in mechanisms that rely on personal reputations, we must now trust that the mechanism governing non-cooperative play in the validation/consensus game will deliver a unique equilibrium outcome with the desired properties. I think this is in part what people mean when I hear them say "trust the math."

Well, trusting the math is one thing. Trusting in the outcome of a non-cooperative game is quite another matter. The relevant field in economics is called mechanism design . I'm not going to get into details here, but suffice it to say, it's not so straightforward designing mechanisms with sure-fire good properties. Ironically, mechanisms like Bitcoin will have to build up trust the old-fashioned way--through positive user experience (much the same way most of us trust our vehicles to function, even if we have little idea how an internal combustion engine works).

Of course, the same holds true for games based on reputational mechanisms. The difference is, I think, that non-cooperative consensus games are intrinsically more costly to operate than their reputational counterparts. The proof-of-work game played by Bitcoin miners, for example, is made intentionally costly (to prevent DDoS attacks ) even though validating the relevant transaction information is virtually costless if left in the hands of a trusted validator. And if a lack of transparency is the problem for trusted systems, this conceptually separate issue can be dealt with by extending the read-privilege communally.

Having said this, I think that depending on the circumstances and the application, the cost associated with a game-based consensus mechanism may be worth incurring. I think we have to remain agnostic on this matter for now and see how future developments unfold.

Blockchain: Powering DAOs

If Blockchain (with non-cooperative consensus) has a comparative advantage, where might it be? To me, the clear application is in supporting Decentralized Autonomous Organizations (DAOs). A DAO is basically a set of rules written as a computer program. Because it possesses no central authority or node, it can offer tailor-made "legal" systems unencumbered by prevailing laws and regulations, at least, insofar as transactions are limited to virtual fulfillments (e.g., debit/credit operations on a ledger).

Bitcoin is an example of a DAO, though the intermediaries that are associated with Bitcoin obviously are not. Ethereum is a platform that permits the construction of more sophisticated DAOs via the use of smart contracts . The comparative advantages of DAOs are that they permit: (1) a higher degree of anonymity; (2) permissionless access and use; and (3) commitment to contractual terms (smart contracts).

It's not immediately clear to me what value these comparative advantages have for registered businesses. There may be a role for legally compliant smart contracts (a tricky business for international transactions). But perhaps the potential is much more than I can presently imagine. Time will tell.

Link to my past posts on the subject of Bitcoin and Blockchain .

[Jan 12, 2018] >When Your Bank Fails, Don't Walk Run!

Notable quotes:
"... or history. ..."
"... "Bail Outs." ..."
"... "Too Big to Fail," ..."
"... "Globally Active, Systemically Important, Financial Institutions" ..."
"... "unsecured creditors" ..."
"... "Good morning, Sir!," ..."
"... "would be glad to help me." ..."
"... "Today, you've come to the right place." ..."
"... "super-priority" ..."
"... Naked Capitalism ..."
"... before you may have your savings cash. ..."
"... "cross-border bank resolution." ..."
"... "Resolving Globally Active, Systemically Important, Financial Institutions." ..."
"... Financial Sense ..."
"... "about two days." ..."
"... Au Contraire ..."
"... "We expect to be cutting a lot out of Dodd-Frank," ..."
Jan 12, 2018 | dissidentvoice.org

by Brett Redmayne-Titley / January 11th, 2018

So. The US economy is just fine. The post-recession 2010 Dodd-Frank legislation has cured all. Banks have lots of cash. Congress is your friend and that certain-to-pass Tax Cut and Jobs bill will finally allow you, your family and America to MAGA.

Really?!

... ... ...

Oh, those evil banks! The shadowy corporatist denizens of New York, London, and Brussels, all guilty of a staggering set of every-expanding frauds couched in the beneficent language of greedy short-term materialistic gain. Financial "crimes of the decade," like the Savings and Loan meltdown, the Enron Collapse, and the Great Recession are nowadays reported almost monthly. With metered US justice amounting only to a monetary fine for the offending criminal bank – usually a small fraction of the money it previously stole, hypothecated, leveraged or manipulated – and with criminal prosecution no longer a possibility, these criminals continue to shovel trillions – not billions – into off-shore, non-tax paying accounts of the already uber-rich. There is never enough.

Just in time for Christmas, Americans received the "Tax Cut and Jobs Bill 2017" that, of course, contains not one word about jobs, but sounds so good to the ignorant who are still transfixed on the false mantra of MAGA.

LIBOR, FOREX, COMEX, which used high-speed program securities trading combined with insider manipulation, were the first serious examples of recent bank frauds. Since the Great Recession magically became the Great Recovery, Wachovia and HSBC banks plead guilty to laundering money for Mexican drug cartels, dictators, and terrorists. Wells Fargo and Bank of America were also guilty of defrauding 10's of thousands of homeowners of their properties during the "robo-signing" scandal; that was a scandal until Wells and BA paid the mortdita and all returned to business as usual. Example: In July 2017 it was revealed that more than 800,000 customers who had taken out car loans with Wells Fargo were charged for auto insurance they did not need. Barely a month later, Wells was forced to disclose that the number of bogus accounts that had been created was actually 3.5 million, a nearly 70 percent increase over the bank's initial estimate. Why not? When the predictable result will be a small percentage fine and keep the rest. Now that's MAGA!

If the individual retail – Mom and Pop – investor actually had a choice of where to put their cash money, then no one with better than a fifth-grade education would put a penny into the major stock markets. However, the goal of the many banking manipulations have had one goal: eliminate financial investment choices to one – stocks.

One choice, Gold and silver, the previous historical champion alternative in preserving one's wealth, was deliberately eliminated from short-term, private investment. The banks, issued and sold massive amounts of worthless certificate gold and derivative gold (not bullion), and the same in silver, at a current ratio of 272 paper instruments to one measly ounce of real physical gold. All this has been leveraged against real precious metals, and next used to influence the price of gold-down- by selling huge tranches of these ostensibly worthless gold contracts (1 contract=100 paper ounces) within seconds when the spot price of gold begins to rise. The banks have done this so often that gold has not risen to levels it would likely reach without this manipulation. This has driven massive liquidity that would have gone to precious metals towards stocks. This is likely evidenced by the advent of the meteoric rise in the price of BitCoin, one that-like gold- escapes the bank's control and a super-inflated stock market.

Similarly, thanks to the economic trickery that has been three rounds of Quantitative Easing, the other two conventional options; the bond market and personal bank savings accounts, have been manipulated to also produce a very low rate of return, driving these cash funds to stocks. It is this entire package of criminality – providing no other place for liquidity to go – that has performed as the plot to push a surging world stock market to obscene levels that have no basis in factually-based accounting or economic methods or history.

Banks Are Ready for the Next Crash – You're Not!

The banks know the next crash is coming. Like 2007, they have set in motion the next great(est) recession. Predator banks know that most people, thanks to the aforementioned financial control, media omission and an inferior education system, are "stupid," especially regarding the nuances of financial fraud. As the majority of Americans and Europeans live in the illusion that their financial institutions will protect their savings, they miss their bank's greedy preparations for the next stock market crash slithering through the halls of their Parliament or Congress. This already completed legislation states in plain English, and the language of endemic corruption, that your bank intends to steal your money directly from your savings account. And your government will let them do this to you.

30,000 pages make up the Dodd-Frank post-recession legislation, authored by the banks in the aftermath of the Great Recession. The Dodd-Frank legislation was touted as eliminating the massive bail-outs the US gave virtually every ill-defined too big to fail worldwide bank and US corporation in 2008-9. In reality, Dodd-Frank was as much a fraud against Americans as LIBOR or COMEX manipulation, et al .

Title II of the media-acclaimed 2010 Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act provides the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) with new powers and methods to again guarantee – first and foremost – the massively leveraged derivatives trade once this massive leverage plummets as it did with AIG in 2007-09. However, that collapse was singular. The next will include all banking sectors.

The bank's paid-for politicians made sure a post-crash congress did not regulate derivatives via Dodd-Frank, and thereby encouraged a further increase in this financial casino betting, despite it being the root cause of the original problem. Thanks to Dodd-Frank and its predecessor, the 2005 Bankruptcy Act, Congress made sure these new fraudulent bets on stock market manipulation would surely be paid. But, not to worry; there would be no more "Bail Outs." Next time, these banks would use their depositors' savings, including yours. Meet: the "Bail-In."

Really?!

All Americans recall the massive "Bail-Outs" of 2007-9 and how their corporately controlled Federal Reserve Bank and an equally controlled US Congress threw several trillions of US taxpayer dollars at US banks, dozens of foreign banks, and any corporation with enough political pull to be defined as "Too Big To Fail" (TBTF). In the aftermath a year later, the banks understood that Americans and European citizens had lost enthusiasm for any future government Bail-Out, most preferring instead that any institution suffering self-inflicted financial duress should enjoy the fruits of their crimes next time, via the reality of formal bankruptcy proceedings.

The will or financial safety of the public is, of course, no concern to criminal corporations, and so easily circumvented via congress and the president. So, the banksters have redefined their criminality using two newly defined methods, both rebranded to be far more palatable to the public.

Currently, "Too Big to Fail," (TBTF) has a very fraudulent and elitist connotation just like, "Bail-Out." To millions across the world who have lost their homes, pension funds, retirement plans, and dreams, this decade-old moniker for financial oppression and fraud has now been conveniently re-branded. The bailed-out TBTF banks now have a far more magnificent definition: TBTFs are now, "Globally Active, Systemically Important, Financial Institutions" (G-SIFI).

This sounds so much better.

But, "Bail-Out"? No No. Would you not prefer a "Bail-In"? Not if you know the details. "Bail-Outs," may have also lost their flavour but in the new world of the G-SIFI, the next one is actually just a "Bail-In," away.

Yes, Bail-Ins, the new "systemically" correct term for publicly guaranteed bank fraud are already named as such in new national policies and laws, appearing in multiple countries. These finance laws, such as Dodd-Frank and its pending UK and European Union version, make upcoming Bail-Ins legal. These Bail-Ins allow failing G-SIFI banks to legally convert the funds of "unsecured creditors" (that's you) into bank capital (that's them). This includes "secured" creditors, like state and local government funds.

Really?!

With this in mind, I entered the main branch of Wells Fargo. The two checks in hand. On the way in I was greeted warmly, one after the other, by three more fresh-faced and eager proteges, all smartly uniformed to match the Wells décor, and who proffered, "Good morning, Sir!," again, and again and again. Certainly, these little fish were not in possession of authority enough to cash my mammoth checks, so I asked for bigger game, the Branch Manager.

Thus, I explained my plight to a very lovely lass who predicted she "would be glad to help me."

"Cheryl," patiently explained that I had come to the right place and she would be glad to cash both checks. Regarding my previous polite banking experience, she admitted that it was indeed bank policy to have limits on the availability of cash for withdrawals and that different branches had different limits. This was the main branch so my request here was meritorious. Further, she admitted that whatever daily cash coming into the branches in the form of deposits was not available for withdrawal, but was sent from the main branch for daily accounting at a central point common to all area Wells bank branches. Only a prescribed amount of cash was provided with each bank for daily customer cash withdrawals.

Really?!

"A couple of times your current request," was her cautious response to my question about her branch's limits on check cashing. Not to be put-off, I asked about a hypothetical US$25,000 check. She admitted this would be beyond her branches authority. "But," she smiled, "Today, you've come to the right place."

The financial law firm Davis Polk estimates the final length of Dodd-Frank, the single longest bill ever passed by the US government, is over 30,000 pages. Before passage, the six largest banks in the US spent $29.4 million lobbying Congress in 2010 and flooded Capitol Hill with about 3,000 lobbyists prior to Obama predictably signing its final unread version. No US congressman or senator had read it. But, the bank's congressional minions were told to vote for it. And dutifully they did.

The major cause of the upcoming financial meltdown, as with the pre-2008 conditions, is globally systemic gambling against national economies, called derivatives. Derivatives are sold as a kind of betting insurance for managing fraudulent banking profits and risk. So, why fix systemic banking fraud when the final result allowed these same banks to make even more money in the aftermath of the national and personal financial destruction they originated in the first recession?

Instead, thanks to Dodd-Frank, derivatives suddenly have "super-priority" status in any bankruptcy. The Bank for International Settlements quoted global OTC derivatives at $632 trillion as of December 2012. Naked Capitalism states that $230 trillion in worthless derivatives are on the books of US banks alone. Applied to Dodd-Frank this means that all these bad bank bets on derivatives will be paid-off first before you may have your savings cash. If there's actually any cash left once you get to the teller's counter.

Normally in a capital liquidation or bankruptcy proceeding, secured creditors such as a bank's personal depositors are paid off first because these are hard assets, not investments, and thus normally have a mandated priority. Under these new "Bail-In" Dodd-Frank mandates, your government has re-prioritized your bank's exposure and your cash deposit. Derivatives and other similar banking high-risk ventures are now more highly protected than bank depositor's savings. In the 2013 example of Cyprus, Germany and the ECB also made depositors inferior to other bank holdings leaving depositors with, after many months, a small fraction of their deposits.

And then came Greece.

Selling the lie while using the language of Dodd-Frank, we are told by media whores that banks will not be given taxpayer bailouts next time. True. The preamble to the Dodd-Frank Act claims "to protect the American taxpayer by ending bailouts." But how, then, to Bail-In the G-SIFIs without another taxpayer Bail-Out? No problem.

Enter the FDIC and another new banking term, "cross-border bank resolution." As the sole US agency required to pay back depositors who lose savings up to $250,000, FDIC is armed with a paltry US$25 billion war chest to pay depositors. Under Dodd-Frank, the FDIC will be the mechanism to replace deposits lost or squandered by bank fraud. The public, however, has an estimated total US cash deposits of US$7.36 trillion so, once the banks steal your savings, FDIC will be just a little bit short of funds. How to fix this mathematical shortfall? With, of course, more of your money via emergency taxes or a massive new round of Quantitative Easing (QE). Either way, by the time this happens your money is long gone. And it gets worse.

Really?!

Say, "Goodbye" to your Savings- Two Greedy Methods

It's [FDIC] already indicated that they will confiscate [savings] funds .

-- US congressman Ron Paul

On December 10, 2012, a joint strategy paper was drafted by the Bank of England (BOE) in conjunction with the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) titled, "Resolving Globally Active, Systemically Important, Financial Institutions." Here the plot to steal depositor savings is clearly laid out.

The report's "Executive Summary" states:

the authorities in the United States (US) and the United Kingdom (UK) have been working together to develop resolution strategies These strategies have been designed to enable [financial institutions] to be resolved without threatening financial stability and without putting public funds at risk.

Sounds good until you read the fine print; i.e., whose risk are they actually protecting?

While claiming to protect taxpayers, Title II of Dodd-Frank gives the FDIC an enforcement arm, the Orderly Liquidation Authority (OLA) which is similar to its British counterpart the Prudent Regulation Authority (PRA). Both now have the authority to punish the personal depositors of failing banking institutions by arbitrarily making their savings deposits subordinate – actually tertiary – to bank claims for the replacement value of their derivatives. Before Dodd-Frank savings deposits were legally senior and primary to these same claims in a routine bankruptcy.

With the US banks holding only $7 trillion in personal cash savings deposits compared to $230 trillion is US derivative obligations, FDIC's $25 billion will not be enough. The creators of Dodd-Frank knew this before it was signed. As John Butler points out in an April 4, 2012, article in Financial Sense :

Do you see the sleight-of-hand at work here? Under the guise of protecting taxpayers, depositors are to be arbitrary, subordinated when in fact they are legally senior to those claims Remember, its stated purpose [Dodd-Frank] is to solve the problem namely the existence of insolvent TBTF institutions that were "highly leveraged with numerous and dispersed financial operations, extensive off-balance-sheet activities, and opaque financial statements.

Oh, but bank depositors can rest easy in the knowledge that replacing their savings will not come out of their pockets via another bank Bail-Out. Thanks to Dodd-Frank, the first line of defence will allow Congress to instead replace personal savings with a government paid for $7 trillion bail-in to FDIC to "replace" these savings.

But, that's the good choice.

Worse, Dodd-Frank gives new powers to FDIC and its OLA that allow an even more powerful and draconian resolution: any deposited funds in a bank, from $1 to $250,000 (the FDIC limit), and everything above, can instead be converted to bank stock! FDIC has provisions so this can be done, via OLA, quite literally overnight.

Really?!

An FDIC report released in 2012 ago reads:

An efficient path for returning the sound operations of the G-SIFI to the private sector would be provided by exchanging or converting a sufficient amount of the unsecured debt from the original creditors of the failed company [meaning the depositor's cash] into equity [or stock].

Additionally, per April 24, 2012 IMF report, conversion of bank debt to stock is an essential element of Bail-Ins included in Dodd-Frank.

The contribution of new capital will come from debt conversion and/or issuance of new equity, with an elimination or significant dilution of the pre-bail in shareholders. Some measures might be necessary to reduce the risk of a 'death spiral' in share prices.

Really?!

For affected depositors to retrieve the value of what was formerly the depositor's account balance, the stock must next be sold. When Lehman Brothers failed, unsecured creditors (depositors are now unsecured creditors) got eight cents on the dollar.

This type of conversion of deposits into equity already had another test-run during the bankruptcy reorganization of Bankia and four other Spanish banks in 2013. The conditions of a July 2012 Memorandum of Understanding resulted in over 1 million small depositors becoming stockholders in Bankia when they were sold without their permission -- "preferences" (preferred stock) in exchange for their missing deposits. Following the conversion, the preferences were converted into common stock originally valued at EU 2.0 per share, then further devalued to EU 0.1 after the March restructuring of Bankia.

Canada has also stated they are planning a similar "Bail-In" program. The Canadian government released a document titled the Economic Action Plan 2013 which says, "the Government proposes to implement a "Bail-In" regime for systemically important banks."

However, don't be getting cute by hiding your cash, precious metals, or passport in a bank safe deposit box. There are no longer safe either. Dodd-Frank took care of that, too.

Under Dodd-Frank the FDIC, using the auspices of Dept. of Homeland Security (DHS) can legally, without a warrant, enter the bank vault, have the manager secretly open any and/or all safe deposit boxes and inventory, or seize the contents. Further, if the manager is honest enough to inform the depositor of the illegal incursion he is subject to criminal charges and termination from bank employ. Independent reports reveal that all of America's safe deposit boxes have already been invaded and inventoried for future confiscation.

This already happened in Greece. Depositors who removed their jewellery or precious metals were met at the bank's door by security, a metal detector and confiscation.

Really?!

The power of the now remaining G-SIFI banks and FDIC was further evident when, cash finally in hand, I headed to my bank, JP Morgan Chase, right next door to Wells Fargo. The manager confirmed that the cash withdrawal policy at Chase was in keeping with that at Wells; very little cash available on demand. I posed a slight untruth and inquired as to what I should do about my upcoming need for $50,000 in hard cash. No, her bank would not do that on demand, but arrangements could be made to have the cash transferred to her bank. That would only take "about two days." Of course, I would need to fill out a few forms.

What a Difference a Congress Makes!

With the American and UK public again on the hook by law for the anticipated loss of the banks a distressed depositor might think the plot to defraud them now complete. Au Contraire .

In its rush to transfer further wealth upwards to off-shore bank accounts, US president Trump and his recently re-aligned republican bootlickers have left no stone unturned. First, Trump issued a memorandum that sets in motion his plan to scale back the provisions of Dodd-Frank and repeal the Fiduciary Rule.

It should be noted that the only voice of economic reason at the White House, Former Fed Chairman, Paul Volker, divorced himself from this growing scandal of basic mathematics very publicly. As head of Obama's recession inspired, President's Economic Recovery Advisory Board, Volker ran into the headwinds of fiscal insanity for too long, resigning in January of 2011 in disgust. His departure thus coincided with the renewal of the litany of criminal financial manipulation already discussed here. And now

The House approved legislation on February 2, 2017, to erase a number of core financial regulations put in place by the 2010 Dodd-Frank Act, as Republicans moved a step closer to delivering on their promises to eliminate rules that they claim have strangled small businesses and stagnated the economy. Said Trump:

I have so many people, friends of mine, with nice businesses, they can't borrow money, because the banks just won't let them borrow because of the rules and regulations and Dodd-Frank.

Poor banks!

Never mind, of course, that these poor banks are holding derivative exposure thirty-five times the total cash deposits of US savers nor that their ill-gotten riches – such as the UBS, Wells Fargo, Bank of America, RBS multi-billion dollar frauds – were taken off-calendar in Federal court for approximately 15% of the total crime. The banks kept the rest.

And they want more?!

"We expect to be cutting a lot out of Dodd-Frank," Trump said further defining the mantra of MAGA. This will likely see the deterioration of the newly created Financial Stability Oversight Council (FSOC) and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) since these agencies curb further excessive risk-taking and the existence of too-big-to-fail institutions on Wall Street.

Well, depositors, your extreme caution is required. The wording of these new, bank-inspired sets of legislation is silently waiting to be used by many nations to prioritize banks before their citizen's. When the time comes, the race to the bank will be a short-lived event indeed.

With this in mind, I stepped into the bright sunshine outside the walls of JP Morgan/Chase bank, all but $100.00 of my day's take stuffed deep- and securely- in my pocket, its final outcome no one's business but my own.

However, for almost everyone else? Well when YOUR bank fails, don't walk, run! YOU do not want to be second in line.

Really!

Brett Redmayne-Titley is an Independent Journalist, Photographer/ World Citizen. He is a former columnist: PRESS TV/IRAN; writer and contributor to: Earth First! Journal; Zero Hedge; Veterans Today; Activist Post; Off-Guardian; Western Journalism; Intellihub; UK Progressive; Fars News Agency; Russia Insider; Mint Press News; State of the Nation; News of Globe; Blacklisted News; Before It's News; Common Dreams; Shift Frequency; etc

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This article was posted on Thursday, January 11th, 2018 at 8:01am and is filed under Banks , Barack Obama , Cyprus , Deposits/Depositors , Donald Trump , EU , Greece , Money supply , Wall Street .

[Dec 26, 2017] BotCoin: Bitcoins are pure speculative assets which enable people to gamble. by Robert Waldmann

Notable quotes:
"... They have behaved badly with an unstable value of bitcoin (huge unpredictable Bitcoin deflation damages any use of bitcoin as a means of exchange as much as huge inflation would). ..."
"... Now no one is really interested in cryptocurrency except as a way to gamble and take money from fools. But if anyone were, linking the blockchain program to prices on an exchange would make it more nearly possible to use the cryptocurrency as a means of exchange. ..."
"... The system is vulnerable to a tacit agreement to trade only on unofficial exchanges. It is necessary that the problem is also made easier if daily trading volume on the official exchange is zero. The problem is the price could shoot up on unofficial exchanges, but this would not affect the price on the official exchange if there were no transactions on the official exchange. ..."
"... The basis was and remains to remove any and all national gov'ts across he globe from any influences on values of currencies, thus pure laissez-faire in the extreme .. as you say libertarian chaos. ..."
"... There is a much more severe problem with bitcoin. As the number mined asymptotically approaches the pre-determined maximum, the cost of mining approaches infinity. As miners are the ones who validate coins, what will happen to the reliability of bitcoin when it becomes uneconomical for anyone to participate in mining? ..."
Dec 25, 2017 | angrybearblog.com

I am going to make a fool of myself by suggesting that a cryptocurrency might actually be useful. Bitcoin et al have negative social utility. They are pure speculative assets which enable people to gamble. Also bitcoin miners use as much electricity as Denmark. The problem is exactly the aspect which has made bitcoin famous and which bitcoin enthusiasts consider a strength -- the enormous increase in the dollar price of bitcoin. This increase, and the recent sharp decline, make bitcoin useless as a means of exchange. Most firms don't want to gamble.

So I (semi-seriously this time) propose botcoin which might have a more stable dollar exchange rate. The idea is to link the blockchain verification program to an official exchange.

Backing up, there are two very different sorts of web-servers related to bitcoin. One set, the bitcoin miners, implements the original idea using the Bitcoin shareware. They keep a copy of the ledger of all bitcoin transactions -- the blockchain, race to create new blocks, and evaluate new blocks and add valid new blocks to the chain. The other servers are bitcoin exchanges in which bitcoin is traded for regular currency. They are not part of the original plan in which bitcoin would be traded for goods and services and function as a means of exchange. They have behaved badly with an unstable value of bitcoin (huge unpredictable Bitcoin deflation damages any use of bitcoin as a means of exchange as much as huge inflation would).

I propose linking the blockchain program to an exchange. So there would be an official botcoin exchange (this means it isn't entirely free-entry shareware libertarian anarchism). If anyone were interested in a new cryptocurrency designed so that speculators can't become rich (and pigs fly) there would be other unofficial exchanges.

The bitcoin program regulates the frequency of creation of new blocks to roughly one every six minutes. It does this by adjusting the difficulty of the pointless arithmetic problem which must be solved to make a new valid block. The idea was to limit the total amount of bitcoin which will ever be created (to 21 million for some reason). This was supposed to make bitcoin valuable. So far it has succeeded all too well (I am confident that in the end bitcoin will have price 0).

It is possible to make the supply of botcoin flexible so the dollar price doesn't shoot up. I would aim at a price of, say, 1 botcoin = $1000. The idea is to make the pointless problem which must be solved to add a block easier if the dollar price of botcoin exceeds the target, and harder if it falls below the target. This should stabilize the price.

Now no one is really interested in cryptocurrency except as a way to gamble and take money from fools. But if anyone were, linking the blockchain program to prices on an exchange would make it more nearly possible to use the cryptocurrency as a means of exchange.

The system is vulnerable to a tacit agreement to trade only on unofficial exchanges. It is necessary that the problem is also made easier if daily trading volume on the official exchange is zero. The problem is the price could shoot up on unofficial exchanges, but this would not affect the price on the official exchange if there were no transactions on the official exchange.

Lyle , December 25, 2017 11:22 pm

Of course Goldman Sachs and its competitors are doing just this building an options and futures exchange. (it is not really that much different than any other futures and options business)

Longtooth , December 26, 2017 5:01 am

But Robert,

then the entire foundation for Bitcoin's purpose disappears entirely, so what advantage remains?

The basis was and remains to remove any and all national gov'ts across he globe from any influences on values of currencies, thus pure laissez-faire in the extreme .. as you say libertarian chaos.

By making crypto-currency values subject to national currency exchange rates they cease to have any reason to exist at all.

We / globally in fact already use crypto exchange via electronic transactions .. adding block chain to it would be a benefit but a separate cryptocurrency is a worthless redundancy if it is subject to valuation by exchange rates of national currencies.

What am I missing?.

likbez , December 26, 2017 5:27 am

Great Article !!! I wish I can write about this topic on the same level. Thank you very much. P.S. Happy New Year for everybody !

rick shapiro , December 26, 2017 10:26 am

There is a much more severe problem with bitcoin. As the number mined asymptotically approaches the pre-determined maximum, the cost of mining approaches infinity. As miners are the ones who validate coins, what will happen to the reliability of bitcoin when it becomes uneconomical for anyone to participate in mining?

[Nov 29, 2017] Some> Fed officials fear that the persistence of sluggish inflation could damage the economy, by permanently eroding public expectations about the future pace of inflation

Nov 29, 2017 | economistsview.typepad.com

Christopher H. , November 25, 2017 at 12:54 PM

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/22/business/economy/fed-interest-rates.html

Fed gonna raise rates:

"A minority of Fed officials, however, have become increasingly forceful in registering their concerns. Those officials are more worried about moving too fast than too slow. They fear that the persistence of sluggish inflation could damage the economy, for example, by permanently eroding public expectations about the future pace of inflation.

The minutes said that some of those officials are reluctant to vote for additional rate increases until they are convinced that inflation is indeed gaining strength.

The officials "indicated that their decision about whether to increase the target range in the near term would depend importantly on whether the upcoming economic data boosted their confidence that inflation was headed toward the Committee's objective.""

Some dissents? I hope so.

Gibbon1 -> Christopher H.... , November 26, 2017 at 04:12 AM
[sluggish inflation could damage the economy, for example, by permanently eroding public expectations about the future pace of inflation.]

Low inflation means no way to get out from under debt via refinancing. If people won't take debt how will late stage capitalists make money?

RC AKA Darryl, Ron said in reply to Christopher H.... , November 26, 2017 at 11:04 AM
"... permanently eroding public expectations about the future pace of inflation..."

[The public, being voting age people at large and all working people and so on, really would rather not expect any inflation at all. It usually does not work out for them all that well since food prices and other headline inflation goods often rise ahead of wages and core inflation goods. The public is not going to bail us out of this one. Poor and lower middle income people do not even have mortgages to refinance. Economic illiteracy among the public is not our friend. The establishment however cannot afford to make the public more economically literate for fear they will understand how the balance of trade over the last forty year has ripped them off.]

Christopher H. said in reply to RC AKA Darryl, Ron... , November 26, 2017 at 12:27 PM
"It usually does not work out for them all that well since food prices and other headline inflation goods often rise ahead of wages and core inflation goods."

People also don't like being taxed to pay for infrastructure and public services.

Except for older voters, most people in advanced nations have never experienced moderate inflation.

If macro policy was done entirely by fiscal policy/better trade policy and interest rates were left alone, we'd still see higher inflation after years of running the economy hot.

Christopher H. said in reply to RC AKA Darryl, Ron... , November 26, 2017 at 12:34 PM
I just think that had the government did more fiscal/monetary policy after the financial crisis and allowed inflation to run over target instead of being paranoid about accelerating inflation, the recovery would have been much quicker and people would have been much happier even with a little inflation. Hillary would have won and inflation expectations would be higher among people who think about such things.
RC AKA Darryl, Ron said in reply to Christopher H.... , November 26, 2017 at 01:44 PM
OH, I totally agree with you. But getting the public aroused about inflation that is too low is entirely a different thing.
ilsm -> Christopher H.... , November 26, 2017 at 02:08 PM
Inflation means you pay the "loan*" with ever "cheaper" dollars from your fixed labor input receiving higher wages, more dollars.

Also inflation means your "collateral" is worth more dollars than the original note.

That went awry post 2000 for whatever reasons, longer run root causes than we know.

*makes sense not to add to the loan, aka the "American dream"+.

+need post mortem and eulogy!*

*'make America great again' is a eulogy of sorts.

Julio -> ilsm... , November 26, 2017 at 09:05 PM
"*'make America great again' is a eulogy of sorts."
[Classic.]
cm -> RC AKA Darryl, Ron... , November 26, 2017 at 06:32 PM
When sellers of groceries, household goods, utility services, etc. can successfully raise prices, then shouldn't one think there is still untapped consumer surplus? People with "extra money" will probably pay more, what do people with no extra money do? Buy less, substitute down, forgo other more discretionary expenses? Shift other expenses to loaned money? Furniture and appliances have always had financing programs, not obvious that more is bought on loan.
cm -> cm... , November 26, 2017 at 06:34 PM
OTOH where I'm currently shopping, it seems grocery prices were stable over the last year. OTOH "sales" and other frequent short term price variations are of a larger magnitude than inflation, so it's hard to tell. But a number of years ago I have definitely noticed YOY price moves - not so now.
RC AKA Darryl, Ron said in reply to cm... , November 27, 2017 at 05:02 AM
Grocery stores operate with very thing margins. Retail prices rise when wholesale prices rise. Rising transportation fuel costs can push wholesale grocery prices, but a lot of food prices has to do with supply variances due to weather. Demand is not very price elastic on staples, but luxury demand can fall severely with rising prices. Chuck roast is more of a staple for many people. Filet mignon is a luxury for most people. Or maybe milk is a staple and candy is a luxury most of the time.
RC AKA Darryl, Ron said in reply to RC AKA Darryl, Ron... , November 27, 2017 at 05:02 AM
"...THIN margins..."

[Nov 29, 2017] Some> Fed officials fear that the persistence of sluggish inflation could damage the economy, by permanently eroding public expectations about the future pace of inflation

Nov 29, 2017 | economistsview.typepad.com

Christopher H. , November 25, 2017 at 12:54 PM

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/22/business/economy/fed-interest-rates.html

Fed gonna raise rates:

"A minority of Fed officials, however, have become increasingly forceful in registering their concerns. Those officials are more worried about moving too fast than too slow. They fear that the persistence of sluggish inflation could damage the economy, for example, by permanently eroding public expectations about the future pace of inflation.

The minutes said that some of those officials are reluctant to vote for additional rate increases until they are convinced that inflation is indeed gaining strength.

The officials "indicated that their decision about whether to increase the target range in the near term would depend importantly on whether the upcoming economic data boosted their confidence that inflation was headed toward the Committee's objective.""

Some dissents? I hope so.

Gibbon1 -> Christopher H.... , November 26, 2017 at 04:12 AM
[sluggish inflation could damage the economy, for example, by permanently eroding public expectations about the future pace of inflation.]

Low inflation means no way to get out from under debt via refinancing. If people won't take debt how will late stage capitalists make money?

RC AKA Darryl, Ron said in reply to Christopher H.... , November 26, 2017 at 11:04 AM
"... permanently eroding public expectations about the future pace of inflation..."

[The public, being voting age people at large and all working people and so on, really would rather not expect any inflation at all. It usually does not work out for them all that well since food prices and other headline inflation goods often rise ahead of wages and core inflation goods. The public is not going to bail us out of this one. Poor and lower middle income people do not even have mortgages to refinance. Economic illiteracy among the public is not our friend. The establishment however cannot afford to make the public more economically literate for fear they will understand how the balance of trade over the last forty year has ripped them off.]

Christopher H. said in reply to RC AKA Darryl, Ron... , November 26, 2017 at 12:27 PM
"It usually does not work out for them all that well since food prices and other headline inflation goods often rise ahead of wages and core inflation goods."

People also don't like being taxed to pay for infrastructure and public services.

Except for older voters, most people in advanced nations have never experienced moderate inflation.

If macro policy was done entirely by fiscal policy/better trade policy and interest rates were left alone, we'd still see higher inflation after years of running the economy hot.

Christopher H. said in reply to RC AKA Darryl, Ron... , November 26, 2017 at 12:34 PM
I just think that had the government did more fiscal/monetary policy after the financial crisis and allowed inflation to run over target instead of being paranoid about accelerating inflation, the recovery would have been much quicker and people would have been much happier even with a little inflation. Hillary would have won and inflation expectations would be higher among people who think about such things.
RC AKA Darryl, Ron said in reply to Christopher H.... , November 26, 2017 at 01:44 PM
OH, I totally agree with you. But getting the public aroused about inflation that is too low is entirely a different thing.
ilsm -> Christopher H.... , November 26, 2017 at 02:08 PM
Inflation means you pay the "loan*" with ever "cheaper" dollars from your fixed labor input receiving higher wages, more dollars.

Also inflation means your "collateral" is worth more dollars than the original note.

That went awry post 2000 for whatever reasons, longer run root causes than we know.

*makes sense not to add to the loan, aka the "American dream"+.

+need post mortem and eulogy!*

*'make America great again' is a eulogy of sorts.

Julio -> ilsm... , November 26, 2017 at 09:05 PM
"*'make America great again' is a eulogy of sorts."
[Classic.]
cm -> RC AKA Darryl, Ron... , November 26, 2017 at 06:32 PM
When sellers of groceries, household goods, utility services, etc. can successfully raise prices, then shouldn't one think there is still untapped consumer surplus? People with "extra money" will probably pay more, what do people with no extra money do? Buy less, substitute down, forgo other more discretionary expenses? Shift other expenses to loaned money? Furniture and appliances have always had financing programs, not obvious that more is bought on loan.
cm -> cm... , November 26, 2017 at 06:34 PM
OTOH where I'm currently shopping, it seems grocery prices were stable over the last year. OTOH "sales" and other frequent short term price variations are of a larger magnitude than inflation, so it's hard to tell. But a number of years ago I have definitely noticed YOY price moves - not so now.
RC AKA Darryl, Ron said in reply to cm... , November 27, 2017 at 05:02 AM
Grocery stores operate with very thing margins. Retail prices rise when wholesale prices rise. Rising transportation fuel costs can push wholesale grocery prices, but a lot of food prices has to do with supply variances due to weather. Demand is not very price elastic on staples, but luxury demand can fall severely with rising prices. Chuck roast is more of a staple for many people. Filet mignon is a luxury for most people. Or maybe milk is a staple and candy is a luxury most of the time.
RC AKA Darryl, Ron said in reply to RC AKA Darryl, Ron... , November 27, 2017 at 05:02 AM
"...THIN margins..."

[Jul 28, 2017] Reply

Jul 28, 2017 | marknesop.wordpress.com

cartman , July 23, 2017 at 11:38 am

G7 Ambassadors Support Cutting of Pensions in the Ukraine
marknesop , July 23, 2017 at 12:13 pm
So when you cut through all the steam and the boilerplate, how do they plan to do it so it's fairer to poor Ukrainians, but the state spends less?

Ah. They plan to raise the age at which you qualify for a pension , doubtless among other money-savers. If the state plays its cards right, the target demographic wil work all its adult life and then die before reaching pensionable age. But as usual, we must be subjected to the usual western sermonizing about how the whole initiative is all about helping people and doing good.

This is borne out in one of the other 'critical reforms' the IMF insisted upon before releasing its next tranche of 'aid' – a land reform act which would allow Ukraine to sell off its agricultural land in the interests of 'creating a market'. Sure: as if. Land-hungry western agricultural giants like Monsanto are drooling at the thought of getting their hands on Ukraine's rich black earth plus a chink in Europe's armor against GMO crops. Another possible weapon to use against Russia would be the growing of huge volumes of GMO grain so as to weaken the market for Russian grains.

Cortes , July 23, 2017 at 4:18 pm
And pollution of areas of Russian soil from blown in GMO seeds. Creating facts on the ground.
Patient Observer , July 24, 2017 at 4:18 am
Another element of the plan to reduce pension obligations is the dismantling of whatever health care system that remain in the Ukraine. That is a twofer – save money on providing medical services and shortening the life span. This would be another optimization of wealth generation for the oligarchs and for those holding Ukraine debt.
Jen , July 24, 2017 at 5:03 am
I can just see Ukrainian health authorities giving away free cigarettes to patients and their families next!

That remark was partly facetious and partly serious: life these days in the Ukraine sounds so surreal that I wouldn't put it past the Ministry of Healthcare of Ukraine to come up with the most hare-brained "reform" initiatives.

yalensis , July 24, 2017 at 2:30 pm
Nine out of ten doctors recommend Camels.
The other one doctor is a woman, who smokes Virginia Slims.

Patient Observer , July 24, 2017 at 6:09 pm
I recall a news story about the adverse effects of a reduction in smoking on the US Social Security Trust Fund. Those actuaries make those calculations for a living. The trouble with shortening life spans via cancer is that end-of-life treatment tends to be very expensive unless people do not have or have very basic health insurance, then there is a likely net gain. Alcohol, murder and suicides are generally much more efficient economically. I just depressed myself.
kirill , July 24, 2017 at 8:09 pm
Something does not add up. Any government expenditure is an economic stimulus. The only potentially negative aspect is taxation. Since taxation is not excessive and in fact too small on key layers (e.g. companies and the rich), there is no negative aspect to government spending on pensions. So we have here narrow-definition accounting BS.
Jen , July 25, 2017 at 4:56 am
Agree that in a world where the people, represented by their governments, are in charge of money creation and governments ran their financial systems independently of Wall Street and Washington, any government spending would be welcomed as stimulating economic production and development. The money later recirculates back to the government when the people who have jobs created by government spending pay the money back through purchases of various other government goods and services or through their taxes.

But in capitalist societies where increasingly banks are becoming the sole creators and suppliers of money, government spending incurs debts that have to be paid back with interest. In the past governments also raised money for major public projects by issuing treasury bonds and securities but that doesn't seem to happen much these days.

Unfortunately also Ukraine is surviving mainly on IMF loans and the IMF certainly doesn't want the money to go towards social welfare spending.

marknesop , July 25, 2017 at 9:18 am
In fact, the IMF specifically intervenes to prevent spending loan money on social welfare, as a condition of extending the loan. That might have been true since time out of mind for all I know, but it certainly was true after the first Greek bailout, when leaders blew the whole wad on pensions and social spending so as to ensure their re-election. They then went sheepishly back to the IMF for a second bailout. So there are good and substantial reasons for insisting the loan money not be wasted in this fashion, as that kind of spending customarily does not generate any meaningful follow-on spending by the recipients, and is usually absorbed by the cost of living.

But as we are all aware, such IMF interventions have a definite political agenda as well. In Ukraine's case, the IMF with all its political inveigling is matched against a crafty oligarch who will lift the whole lot if he is not watched. Alternatively, he might well blow it all on social spending to ensure his re-election, thus presenting the IMF with a dilemma in which it must either continue to support him, or cause him to fall.

Patient Observer , July 25, 2017 at 7:07 pm
In an economy based on looting, it makes perfect sense. Money flows only one way until its all gone.

[Jun 27, 2017] Inflation and money velocity

Notable quotes:
"... It implies that it is money supply that contributes to inflation. However it is not money supply that contributes to inflation it is income. That is money times the velocity of money ..."
Jun 27, 2017 | economistsview.typepad.com

djb , June 27, 2017 at 02:56 AM

Now I just read an article by some guy with the typical quantitative easing is bad because it just dilutes everyones wealth , debases the currency value and and all that

This is nonsense

It implies that it is money supply that contributes to inflation. However it is not money supply that contributes to inflation it is income. That is money times the velocity of money

and in fact it is not income that contributes to inflation it is income times the propensity to consume of that income

money in bonds is not really actively involved in income except for the interest it's earning

so when the central bank "prints money" and then uses that money to buy bonds all the central bank is doing is exchanging one form of inactive wealth with another form of inactive wealth

that is neither the value of the bond nor the value of the money that the fed printed by the bond were actively involved in income anyway, except for the interest earned

therefore they do not affect inflation

in fact the value that bond at this point wasn't about to be used for consumption anyway, it was just being held

after the fed purchases the bond, that the former bondholder now has cash that is no longer getting a return, (as now the fed is getting the return)

which will prompt the former bondholder to look for a place to put that money

the idea is that the former bondholder will invest the money, that that money will find its way into funding ventures that cause increased employment, income and production

and it is that investment that will stimulate the economy

like maybe buy other bonds and the issuer of the bond gets that money and can invest in their business, creating jobs and income and production for their employees.

Which then will have the usual multiplier effect if we are at less than full employment

and at any point the fed can sell back the bond reducing the money supply

in the meantime we might have been able to keep the economy functioning at a high level, keep more people from being excluded from the benefits, and not lose all that production that is so essential to increasing our quality of life

djb -> djb... , June 27, 2017 at 02:58 AM
another way to look at inactive money is to say that part of the money supply has no velocity, ie it is not contributing to income.

[Jun 11, 2017] Estimates vary, but some believe 90% of all gold mined in 5000 years is still held by humans as property.

Jun 11, 2017 | economistsview.typepad.com

djb , June 09, 2017 at 02:09 PM

"Bitcoin and the conditions for a takeover of fiat money - longandvariable"

conditions are:

"hell freezing over"

DrDick - , June 09, 2017 at 04:27 PM
Pretty much. Bitcoin really is the quintessential "fiat money" (a redundancy, since all money is fiat currency, even gold and silver).
cm - , June 09, 2017 at 10:07 PM
I would say precious metals are subject to tighter physical constraints (first of all, availability) than most of what have been considered "fiat" currencies.

E.g. emergency "fiat" coin has been produced from cheaper metals, e.g. iron, aluminum, or brass. Forgery-resistant paper currency is not cheap, but probably still cheaper than precious metals.

All that is beside the point - today's currencies are only virtual accounting entries (though with a not so cheap supervision and auditing infrastructure attached to enforce scarcity, or rather limit issuance to approved parties).

mulp - , June 10, 2017 at 03:00 PM
Money is proxy for labor.

Gold and silver prices are determined by labor costs of production.

Cartels act to limit global supply to push prices above labor costs, but even the Cartels have trouble resisting selling into the market when the price far exceeds labor cost of the marginal unit of production.

In today's political economy, the barrier to entry is rule of law which requires paying workers to produce without causing harm to others. The lowest cost new gold production is all criminal, involving theft of gold from land the miners have no property rights, done by causing harm and death to bystanders, with protection of the criminal operations coming from criminals who capture most of the profit from the workers.

Estimates vary, but some believe 90% of all gold mined in 5000 years is still held by humans as property. If a method of extracting gold from sea water at a labor cost of $300 an ounce, the "destruction of wealth" would be many trillions of dollars.

All that's needed is a method of processing sea water that could be built for $300 per ounce of lifetime asset life. A $300 million in labor cost processing ship that kept working for 30 years producing over that 30 years a million ounces of gold would quickly drive the price of gold to $350-400. If it doesn't, a thousand ships would be quickly built that would add a billion ounces to the global supply in 30 years representing 1/6th global supply after 5000 years.

Unless gold suddenly gained new uses, say dresses that every upper middle class women had to have, and that cost more than $300 an ounce to return to industrial gold, such production would force the price of gold to or below labor cost.

However, a dollar coin plated one atom thick in 3 cents of gold will always have a value of a dollar's worth of labor. The number of minutes of labor or the skills required for each second of labor can change, but as long as the dollar buys labor, it will have a dollar of value.

If robots do all the work, then a dollar becomes meaningless. A theoretical economy of robots doing all the work means a car can be priced at a dollar or a gigadollars, but the customers must be given that dollar or that gigadollars, or the robots will produce absolutely nothing. Robots producing a million cars a month which no one has the money to buy means the cars cost zero. To simply produce cars that are never sold means the marginal cost is zero.

cm - , June 11, 2017 at 10:26 AM
Money is a rationing mechanism to control the use and distribution of scarce economic resources. Labor (of various specializations) is a scarce resource, or the scarcest resource commanding the highest price, only if other resources are more plentiful.

There are many cases where labor, even specialized labor, is not the critical bottleneck, and is not the majority part of the price. E.g. in the case of patents where the owner can charge what the market will bear due to intellectual property enforcement. Or any other part of actual or figurative "toll collection" with ownership or control of critical economic means or infrastructure. That's pure rent extraction.

Some things cost a lot *not* because of the labor involved - a lot of labor (not spent on producing the actual good) can be involved because the obtainable price can pay for it.

DrDick - , June 11, 2017 at 11:57 AM
The value of precious metals or gems is also entirely arbitrary. They only have value because someone says they do, as they have little utilitarian value.
cm - , June 09, 2017 at 10:14 PM
The initial allure of bitcoin has been "anonymity", until people figured out that all transactions are publicly recorded with a certain amount of metadata. This can be partially defeated by "mixing services", i.e. systematic laundering. There have also been alleged frauds (complete with arrests) that got a lot of press in the scene, where bitcoin "safekeeping services" (I don't quite want to say "banks") "lost" currency or in any case couldn't return deposits to depositors. No deposit insurance, not much in the way of contract enforcement, etc.

Then there were stories about computer viruses and malware targeted at stealing account credentials or "wallet files".

DrDick - , June 11, 2017 at 12:00 PM
FWIW, I regard bitcoin as a colossal folly intended to appeal to crazed libertarian idiots, goldbug nutters, and criminals and has little utility or real value. Investing in bubble gum cards makes more sense.
DrDick - , June 11, 2017 at 12:01 PM
It is also the ultimate pyramid scheme.

[Apr 25, 2017] The Operation and Demise of the Bretton Woods System: 1958 to 1971

Notable quotes:
"... By Michael Bordo, Professor of Economics, Rutgers University. Originally published at VoxEU ..."
"... See original post for references ..."
"... Greatest scam in history. ..."
"... So, it's not 'out of thin air. It's back by the might of the Pentagon mightier than gold. ..."
"... It is hard to believe in can continue much longer despite of Bordo's view that it will. ..."
Apr 25, 2017 | www.nakedcapitalism.com
Posted on April 25, 2017 by Yves Smith Yves here. The article makes a comment in passing that bears teasing out. The inflation that started in the later 1960s was substantially if not entirely the result of Lyndon Johnson refusing to raise taxes because it would be perceived to be to pay for the unpopular Vietnam War. Richard Nixon followed that approach.

By Michael Bordo, Professor of Economics, Rutgers University. Originally published at VoxEU

Scholars and policymakers interested in the reform of the international financial system have always looked back to the Bretton Woods system as an example of a man-made system that brought both exemplary and stable economic performance to the world in the 1950s and 1960s. Yet Bretton Woods was short-lived, undone by both flaws in its basic structure and the unwillingness of key sovereign members to follow its rules. Many commentators hark back to the lessons of Bretton Woods as an example to possibly restore greater order and stability to the present international monetary system. In a recent paper, I revisit these issues from over a half century ago (Bordo 2017).

The Bretton Woods system was created by the 1944 Articles of Agreement at a global conference organised by the US Treasury at the Mount Washington Hotel in Bretton Woods, New Hampshire, at the height of WWII. It was established to design a new international monetary order for the post war, and to avoid the perceived problems of the interwar period: protectionism, beggar-thy-neighbour devaluations, hot money flows, and unstable exchange rates. It also sought to provide a framework of monetary and financial stability to foster global economic growth and the growth of international trade.

The system was a compromise between the fixed exchange rates of the gold standard, seen as conducive to rebuilding the network of global trade and finance, and the greater flexibility to which countries had resorted in the 1930s to restore and maintain domestic economic and financial stability. The Articles represented a compromise between the American plan of Harry Dexter White and the British plan of John Maynard Keynes. The compromise created an adjustable peg system based on the US dollar convertible into gold at $35 per ounce along with capital controls. The compromise gave members both exchange rate stability and the independence for their monetary authorities to maintain full employment. The IMF, based on the principle of a credit union, whereby members could withdraw more than their original gold quotas, was established to provide relief for temporary current account shortfalls.

It took close to 15 years to get the Bretton Woods system fully operating. As it evolved into a gold dollar standard, the three big problems of the interwar gold exchange standard re-emerged: adjustment, confidence, and liquidity problems.

The adjustment problem in Bretton Woods reflected downward rigidity in wages and prices which prevented the normal price adjustment of the gold standard price specie flow mechanism to operate. Consequently, payment deficits would be associated with rising unemployment and recessions. This was the problem faced by the UK, which alternated between expansionary monetary and fiscal policy, and then in the face of a currency crisis, austerity – a policy referred to as 'stop-go'. For countries in surplus, inflationary pressure would ensure, which they would try to block by sterilisation and capital controls.

A second aspect of the adjustment problem was asymmetric adjustment between the US and the rest of the world. In the pegged exchange rate system, the US served as central reserve country and did not have to adjust to its balance of payments deficit. It was the n-1th currency in the system of n currencies (Mundell 1969). This asymmetry of adjustment was resented by the Europeans.

The US monetary authorities began to worry about the balance of payments deficit because of its effect on confidence . As official dollar liabilities held abroad mounted with successive deficits, the likelihood increased that these dollars would be converted into gold and that the US monetary gold stock would eventually reach a point low enough to trigger a run. Indeed by 1959, the US monetary gold stock equalled total external dollar liabilities, and the rest of the world's monetary gold stock exceeded that of the US. By 1964, official dollar liabilities held by foreign monetary authorities exceeded that of the US monetary gold stock (Figure 1).

Figure 1. US gold stock and external liabilities, 1951-1975

Source : Banking and Monetary Statistics 1941‐1970, Washington DC Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, September 1976, Table 14.1, 15.1.

A second source of concern was the dollar's role in providing liquidity to the rest of the world. Elimination of the US balance of payments deficits (as the French and Germans were urging) could create a global liquidity shortage. There was much concern through the 1960s as to how to provide this liquidity.

Robert Triffin (1960) captured the problems in his famous dilemma. Because the Bretton Woods parities, which were declared in the 1940s, had undervalued the price of gold, gold production would be insufficient to provide the resources to finance the growth of global trade. The shortfall would be met by capital outflows from the US, manifest in its balance of payments deficit. Triffin posited that as outstanding US dollar liabilities mounted, they would increase the likelihood of a classic bank run when the rest of the world's monetary authorities would convert their dollar holdings into gold (Garber 1993). According to Triffin when the tipping point occurred, the US monetary authorities would tighten monetary policy and this would lead to global deflationary pressure. Triffin's solution was to create a form of global liquidity like Keynes' (1943) bancor to act as a substitute for US dollars in international reserves.

Policies to Shore Up the System

The problems of the Bretton Woods system were dealt with by the IMF, the G10 plus Switzerland, and by US monetary authorities. The remedies that followed often worked in the short run but not in the long run. The main threat to the system as a whole was the Triffin problem, which was exacerbated after 1965 by expansionary US monetary and fiscal policy which led to rising inflation.

After a spike in the London price of gold to $40.50 in October 1960 – based on fears that John F Kennedy, if elected, would pursue inflationary policies – led the Treasury to develop policies to discourage Europeans from conversing dollars into gold. These included:

The US Treasury, aided by the Federal Reserve, also engaged in sterilised exchange market intervention.

The main instrument used by the Fed to protect the gold stock was the swap network. It was designed to protect the US gold stock by temporarily providing an alternative to foreign central bank conversion of their dollar holdings into gold. In a typical swap transaction, the Federal Reserve and a foreign central bank would undertake simultaneous and offsetting spot and forward exchange transactions, typically at the same exchange rate and equal interest rate. The Federal Reserve swap line increased from $900 million to $11.2 billion between March 1962 and the closing of the gold window in August 1971 (see Figure 2 and Bordo et al. 2015)

Figure 2. Federal Reserve swap lines, 1962 –1973

Source : Federal Reserve System.

The swaps and ancillary Treasury policies protected the US gold reserves until the mid-1960s, and were viewed at the time as a successful policy.

The Breakdown of Bretton Woods, 1968 to 1971

A key force that led to the breakdown of Bretton Woods was the rise in inflation in the US that began in 1965. Until that year, the Federal Reserve Chairman, William McChesney Martin, had maintained low inflation. The Fed also attached high importance to the balance of payments deficit and the US monetary gold stock in its deliberations (Bordo and Eichengreen 2013). Beginning in 1965 the Martin Fed shifted to an inflationary policy which continued until the early 1980s, and in the 1970s became known as the Great Inflation (see figure 3).

Figure 3 . Inflation rates

Source : US Bureau of Labor Statistics, IMF (various issues).

The shift in policy mirrored the accommodation of fiscal deficits reflecting the increasing expense of the Vietnam War and Lyndon Johnson's Great Society.

The Federal Reserve shifted its stance in the mid-1960s away from monetary orthodoxy in response to the growing influence of Keynesian economics in the Kennedy and Johnson administrations, with its emphasis on the primary objective of full employment and the belief that the Fed could manage the Phillips Curve trade-off between inflation and unemployment (Meltzer 2010).

Increasing US monetary growth led to rising inflation, which spread to the rest of the world through growing US balance of payments deficits. This led to growing balance of payments surpluses in Germany and other countries. The German monetary authorities (and other surplus countries) attempted to sterilise the inflows but were eventually unsuccessful, leading to growing inflationary pressure (Darby et al. 1983).

After the devaluation of sterling in November 1967, pressure mounted against the dollar via the London gold market. In the face of this pressure, the Gold Pool was disbanded on 17 March 1968 and a two-tier arrangement put in its place. In the following three years, the US put considerable pressure on other monetary authorities to refrain from converting their dollars into gold.

The decision to suspend gold convertibility by President Richard Nixon on 15 August 1971 was triggered by French and British intentions to convert dollars into gold in early August. The US decision to suspend gold convertibility ended a key aspect of the Bretton Woods system. The remaining part of the System, the adjustable peg disappeared by March 1973.

A key reason for Bretton Woods' collapse was the inflationary monetary policy that was inappropriate for the key currency country of the system. The Bretton Woods system was based on rules, the most important of which was to follow monetary and fiscal policies consistent with the official peg. The US violated this rule after 1965 (Bordo 1993).

Conclusion

The collapse of the Bretton Woods system between 1971 and 1973 led to the general adoption by advanced countries of a managed floating exchange rate system, which is still with us. Yet this outcome (at least at the time) was not inevitable. As was argued by Despres et al. (1966) in contradistinction to Triffin, the ongoing US balance of payments deficit was not really a problem. The rest of the world voluntarily held dollar balances because of their valuable service flow – the deficit was demand-determined. In their view, the Bretton Woods system could have continued indefinitely. This of course was not the case, but although the par value system ended in 1973 the dollar standard without gold is still with us, as McKinnon (1969, 1988, 2014) has long argued.

The dollar standard was resented by the French in the 1960s and referred to as conferring "the exorbitant privilege" on the US, and the same argument was made in 2010 by the Governor of the Central Bank of China. However, the likelihood that the dollar will be replaced as the dominant international currency in the foreseeable future remains remote. The dollar standard and the legacy of the Bretton Woods system will be with us for a long time.

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0 0 5 0 0 This entry was posted in Currencies , Economic fundamentals , Globalization , Guest Post , Macroeconomic policy , The dismal science on April 25, 2017 by Yves Smith . Subscribe to Post Comments 59 comments Jim Haygood , April 25, 2017 at 11:00 am

'Because the Bretton Woods parities, which were declared in the 1940s, had undervalued the price of gold, gold production would be insufficient to provide the resources to finance the growth of global trade.'

Twenty years on from Britain's "lost decade" of the 1920s - caused by repegging sterling to gold at the pre-World War I parity - the same mistake was repeated at Bretton Woods. (The US had made the identical error in 1871, which required 25 years of relentless deflation to sweat out Civil War greenback inflation.)

Even as the Bretton Woods conference was underway in 1944, it went unnoticed that the US Federal Reserve had embarked on a vast buying spree of US Treasuries. This was done to peg their yield at 2.5% or below, in order to finance WW II at negative real yields. By 1945, US Treasuries (shown in blue and orange on this chart) loomed larger in the Fed's balance sheet than gold (shown in chartreuse):

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Obviously a fixed gold price is utterly incompatible with a central bank expanding its balance sheet with government debt, reducing its gold holdings to the tiny residual that they constitute today.

Bretton Woods might have worked by limiting central banks' ability to monetize gov't securities. Or it might have worked with the gold price allowed to float with expanding central bank assets, according to a formula.

What was lost with Bretton Woods was fixed exchange rates, which are conducive to trade. Armies of traders seeking to extract rents from fluctuations between fiat currencies are a pure deadweight loss to the global economy.

In North America, sharp depreciations of the Mexican and Canadian currencies against the USD are fanning US protectionism, in forms ranging from a proposed border wall to countervailing duties on Canadian lumber and dairy products. What a mess.

Irredeemable fiat currencies are a tribulation visited on humanity. When the central bank blown Bubble III explodes in our fool faces, this insight will be more widely appreciated.

jsn , April 25, 2017 at 1:35 pm

Fiat currency is a tribulation visited on capitalist trade advocates and their financial backers.

International trade, which is hobbled by fiat currencies as you say, was a rounding error in most peoples lives until the Thatcher/Reagan neoliberal innovations.

Since then that rounding error has rounded away most of the distributive properties of the economic systems so distorted to facilitate capital profits through long distance trade that they are impoverishing enough people that Brits vote Brexit, Yanks vote Trump and French vote Le Pen.

Robert NYC , April 25, 2017 at 3:19 pm

Bretton Woods would have worked a lot better if Keynes had won the argument in favor of "bancor", but he was arguing from a position of weakness and lost out.

And yes, when this blows, as it will, it will all become more widely appreciated.

Gman , April 25, 2017 at 5:24 pm

+1.

gepay , April 25, 2017 at 8:30 pm

missing from the article is the decision to raise the price of oil in order to put most of the 3rd world into debt slavery. This exasperated the inflation mentioned, caused by US deficits. Because the US was still a manufacturing leader and the Unions were strong – we had the wage price stagflation of the 70's,. The elites solution – Nixon went to China – not to open up a market of a billion people but to make use of a disciplined labor force that would work for cheap – breaking the power of the unions with globalisation aided by computers. The Republicans in the US and Thatcher in England broke the unions in the 80s.Clinton went along in the 90s. Was that plan a factor in the decision to leave the gold standard?

Susan the other , April 25, 2017 at 11:09 am

This was most interesting for its lack of regret for losing a dollar pegged to $35 oz. gold. It is almost a rationale for letting inflation and deficit spending occur because in the end the system using a reserve currency works as good as anything. I do think the expense of the Vietnam war and the obvious policy that it was necessary to allow inflation (from the 70s onward) was incomplete, looking at everything today, because it was based on an assumption that we humans could just aggressively keep growing our way into the future like we had always done. Already in 1970 there were environmental concerns, well-reasoned ones, and global warming was being anticipated. If it had been possible to use a hard gold standard we might not be in this ecological disaster today, but there would have been some serious poverty, etc. The obvious policy today is to put our money into the environment and fix it and by doing that put people to work for a good and urgent cause. As opposed to bombing North Korea; building a Wall to nowhere; giving money to corporations which do not contribute to repairing the planet; and impoverishing people unnecessarily, etc. Money, in the end, is only as valuable as the things it accomplishes.

Robert NYC , April 25, 2017 at 3:29 pm

Wrong on your poverty concept. It is the inflation associated with a reckless fiat monetary system that causes much of the poverty. Prior the fiat era there was minimal inflation. As Keynes explained in his prophetic criticism of the Treaty of Versailles, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, when he called attention to Lenin, of all people:

"By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. By this method, they not only confiscate, but they confiscate arbitrarily; and, while the process impoverishes many, it actually enriches some. The sight of this arbitrary rearrangement of riches strikes not only at security, but at confidence in the equity of the existing distribution of wealth. Those to whom the system brings windfalls . . . become 'profiteers', who are the object of the hatred of the bourgeoisie, whom the inflationism has impoverished not less than the proletariat. As the inflation proceeds . . . all permanent relations between debtors and creditors, which form the ultimate foundation of capitalism, become so utterly disordered as to be almost meaningless.

Lenin was certainly right. There is no subtler, nor surer means of overturning the existing basis of society that to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."

jsn , April 25, 2017 at 5:25 pm

The core problem with hard currency is the power asymmetry of the fixed interest contract in whatever form.

Because costs are constant and growing under such contracts, income requirements become "sticky": in a market reverse, wage earners, renters, mortgage holders etc are obligated by these contracts and cannot accept a cut in their wage unless they have adequate financial reserves. Recessions soak these reserves from debtors to creditors despite the loose underwriting of creditors in the speculative and ponzi phases of the Minsky cycle being the root cause of the business cycle, not profligacy or irresponsibility by wage earners and small business people. In a depression, this liquidationist dynamic starts working its way up the the industrial supply chain, dismantling the actual means of production.

The main potential public benefit of fiat currency is that in such conditions it costs the state nothing to preserve the wealth of those not implicated in causing the collapse and to preserve those means of production. Unfortunately, what we saw in 2008 was Bush/Obama using the innocent victims of the business cycle to "foam the runway" for the institutions that caused it.

Poverty is a simple result of being cut off from possible income sources. To the extent that inflation is managed with what Keynes called "a reserve army of the unemployed", high levels of poverty are assured. In the high wage, high cost era of the New Deal, the intent was take what burden of financial risk could be taken off of workers and small producers and to provide good paying opportunities for one cycle's economic losers to get back on their feet in the next cycle. But this only works with full employment where labor has the power to bid for a share of the overall returns on investments.

OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL , April 25, 2017 at 6:53 pm

I found this fascinating and quite persuasive.
But unless you can posit the existence of a state that will reliably act to "preserve the wealth of those not implicated in causing the collapse and to preserve those means of production" it is just a useless academic exercise. I do not see any such state anywhere in view, with the possible exception of the Chinese, who seem to understand "preserving the means of production" as a state priority. For the West however that idea is a real howler.

Moneta , April 25, 2017 at 7:30 pm

No inflation can also lead to a form of confiscation where you are not letting new entrants (the young) into the game.

No inflation could reflect a form of protectionism.

MyLessThanPrimeBeef , April 25, 2017 at 3:30 pm

If it had been possible to use a hard gold standard we might not be in this ecological disaster today, but there would have been some serious poverty, etc.

Some serious poverty only if because the elites would have been even more neoliberal.

The last gold-standard-free 50 years of innovation and growth have made extinct

1. Shoes that last more than a few months
2. Clothes that you can pass on to future generations
3. Likewise, furniture
4. Milk or Coke in glass bottles
etc.

RBHoughton , April 25, 2017 at 7:35 pm

Isn't that because we have evicted competition from our global commercial model and replaced it with planned production so every factory knows the size of its likely market?

Enquiring Mind , April 25, 2017 at 11:18 am

At what point would China, for example, be able to assert more of a reserve currency, or at least alternative, role based on its economic and trade power and build-up of hard and financial assets? Or is their near-term internal surplus recycling through uneconomic lending enough to keep them off-balance for quite a while on the world financial stage? Many in the West are watching the development of the One Belt/One Road infrastructure and shifting country linkages and alliances with grave concern.

jsn , April 25, 2017 at 1:09 pm

The key to reserve status is large external holdings of your monetary instruments: for foreigners to transact in your currency they must have it. China, thus far, fails profoundly on this count, no one has its currency.

The inverse of this is that the best way for the US to end the dollars reserve status is to eliminate the "National Debt", which is in fact nothing other than the inventory if dollar instruments the rest of the world holds in order to be able to spend dollars into our system: eliminate that inventory and the dollar will no longer be a reserve currency.

Oregoncharles , April 25, 2017 at 1:28 pm

This raises the large question of whether "reserve status" is actually beneficial. Apparently it consists largely of being enormously in debt – and in fact, it's been a way for Japanese and Chinese to buy up large chunks of our "means of production." The prosperity of my original home town, Columbus, IN, rests on Japanese "investment." It does mean some good Japanese restaurants in town.

jsn , April 25, 2017 at 3:25 pm

To me the question is, who benefits from it? It has been of great benefit to a very particular set of people here in the US and quite destructive since the 70s to most everyone else.

It is a power relationship that has been used for imperial aims rather than for the good of citizens. It needn't be that way, but as US power has become increasingly unaccountable its abuse of this particular tool has grown.

Robert NYC , April 25, 2017 at 3:54 pm

@jsn, you get it!

Yves Smith Post author , April 25, 2017 at 9:39 pm

No, no, no, no, this is 100% wrong.

First, the US could just as easily deficit spend. We are not "in debt" because the US can always create more dollars to retire Treasury bonds.

The requirement for being a reserve currency is running trade deficits. That does require that furriners take and hold your paper. They prefer bonds or other investments to cash to get some yield.

Running ongoing trade deficits also means that you are using your domestic demand to support jobs overseas. That is the problematic feature, not all of this other noise.

Robert NYC , April 25, 2017 at 3:45 pm

The concept of a reserve currency came about from resolution 9 of the Genoa Monetary Conference of 1922. The idea was that any currency that was convertible to gold was de facto equivalent to gold and therefore an acceptable central bank reserve asset. In other words there is really no such thing as an international reserve currency without gold in the system according to the very reasoning that established the idea. The U.S. pulled off the greatest bait and switch in history when it "suspended" the gold window in 1971. The whole system because an enormous debt based Ponzi scheme after that and we are now dealing with the consequences.

And yes the key to reserve status: is large external holdings of your monetary instruments for foreigners to transact in". But what incentive do they have to hold such a currency and transact in it? Remember they don't need it since they generally run trade surpluses. The answer was, because that currency was convertible to gold. What about now when it is not tied to gold? Why hold the currency of profligate debtor nation? Answer provided in post below.

And anyone who thinks that running large trade and budget deficits is the secret to reserve currency status is a moron. Argentina or Paraguay could just as easily produce the necessary surplus liquidity under that logic.

craazyboy , April 25, 2017 at 4:07 pm

" But what incentive do they have to hold such a currency and transact in it? Remember they don't need it since they generally run trade surpluses. "

Restart back at the very beginning, forget everything you know, and try again.

"They" got foreign reserve currency by selling to the US and getting paid in dollars. Their banks then traded the dollars to the PBoC central bank for freshly printed renimbi.

Robert NYC , April 25, 2017 at 4:30 pm

yes, but why would the central bank endlessly collect another country's debt?

And you inadvertently point out one of the key frauds in the system. The dollar supports a double pyramid of credit, one domestic and the other foreign. There is also a third pyramid of credit, the euro dollar market, which is built on top of the U.S. domestic pyramid of credit, but lets ignore that for now.

So "they" give us real stuff made of raw material and labor inputs and we give them wampum!!! Greatest scam in history.

Mark P. , April 25, 2017 at 5:33 pm

Greatest scam in history.

It absolutely is. It's as much an advance on the British Empire as that was on the Roman system.

craazyboy , April 25, 2017 at 5:41 pm

"The dollar supports a double pyramid of credit, one domestic and the other foreign. "

Except the PBoC prints the Many Yuan to buy dollars from the Chinese banking system. The value of the Many Yuan is backed by sales of exports, in that case. A tiny little subset where MMT (The imaginary version) is actually in force. Then the PBoC buys our debt with these foreign reserves, which we wisely spend on our country and citizens.

Next, the Chinese banking system, thru the power of The Money Multiplier, uses that base money to make loans and expand credit to Chinese.

Robert NYC , April 25, 2017 at 8:14 pm

" The value of the Many Yuan is backed by sales of exports, in that case."

WTF? The value the "Many Yuan" is backed by the sale of exports which yields wampum, uh I mean dollars, and they purchase the dollars with the many yuan they created. The PBoC expands its balance sheet to buy those dollars with yuan created from nothing, hence the double pyramid of credit. The dollars get lent back to us in the form of U.S. government securities because we issue the word's "boomerang" currency.

And yes you can run a system like this; for how long? That is the big question.

Yves Smith Post author , April 25, 2017 at 9:45 pm

No, you have this wrong.

They want the jobs!

And you have misunderstood what those reserves are for. The Fed also can't spend all of those US assets it holds on its balance sheet either, now can it?

The use of foreign currency reserves is to defend the currency and keep the IMF away. Having a currency depreciate rapidly leads to a big inflation spike (unless you are close to being an autarky) due to the prices of foreign goods, in particular commodities, going up in your currency.

China is not self sufficient in a whole bunch of things, including in particular energy.

It had a spell last year when it was running through its FX reserves at such a rate that it would have breached the IMF trouble level for an economy of its size if it had persisted for 4-6 months more.

Robert NYC , April 25, 2017 at 4:56 pm

You sound like you must be an economist.

A chemist, a physicist and economist are ship wrecked on a deserted island with only some canned goods for food. They sit down to figure out how they are going to open the cans. To which the economist says: "assume we have a can opener"

craazyboy , April 25, 2017 at 5:47 pm

Three MMT Economists are stranded on a desert island.

They say, "WTF's a can opener? That sounds like work!" and live 3 months and are then rescued by Skipper, Gillian, Mary Ann and the Perfesser too, on an Easter Break Tour. Ginger and Mr. Howe are downstairs busy downstairs knocking up.

They are living happily ever after in Kansas City, Mo.

a different chris , April 25, 2017 at 11:41 am

>The dollar standard will be with us for a long time.

Why?

jsn , April 25, 2017 at 1:01 pm

That struck me as "famous last words" material.

Seems to me the dollar system will work until it doesn't. And those who run it have been doing all within their power for about 15 years to encourage anyone who can to come up with an alternative.

None look viable, and they won't until suddenly one is.

Yves Smith Post author , April 25, 2017 at 9:49 pm

There isn't a viable alternative.

The euro isn't one due to the mess its banking system is in. Japan doesn't want the job and in any event is a military protectorate of the US.

China is a minimum of 20 years away. Even though it would like the status of being the reserve currency, it most decidedly does not want the attendant obligations, which are running ongoing trade deficits, which is tantamount to exporting jobs. Maintaining high levels of employment and wage growth are the paramount goals for China's leaders. There are underreported riots pretty much all the time in China due to dissatisfaction over labor conditions now. The officialdom is not going to commit political suicide. Domestic needs always trump foreign goals.

lyman alpha blob , April 25, 2017 at 11:43 am

Just getting around to reading Piketty's doorstopper and was struck by his argument that prior to WWI there had been very little inflation worldwide for centuries. It was the need to pay off all the war debt that shook things up.

Graeber's book on debt also makes the argument that money as physical circulating metal currency came about because of the need to pay for wars.

Something similar seems to have been going on with the Bretton Woods agreement.

I know it's crazy but I'm just going to throw it out there – maybe if we'd like a more stable economy we could try starting fewer very destabilizing, extremely expensive wars???

wandering mind , April 25, 2017 at 3:16 pm

That is exactly my thought. There is a disturbing cycle of war, monetary expansion to pay for the war, post-war deflation leading to political instability, leading to a repeat of the cycle, at least in Europe and the U.S.

One can see this even in the period between the creation of the Bank of England through the end of the Napoleonic wars.

It is evident as well in the United States pre- and post-Civil war.

Deficit hawks never seem to have a problem with war-time deficit spending, only general welfare deficit spending.

We could have a system where the fiscal power of the state is fully harnessed for the general welfare, but that would threaten the current system which allows a small minority to overwhelmingly reap the benefits of the money creation power of the state and private banks.

This renders the issue a political one more than a purely economic one. If history is any guide, we will continue to have the kind of political uncertainty we've experienced until there has been enough war spending to start the cycle over again. :(

RBHoughton , April 25, 2017 at 7:42 pm

Wander no more Mind, you have struck on the bedrock of reality

Henry , April 25, 2017 at 12:21 pm

" The inflation that started in the later 1960s was substantially if not entirely the result of Lyndon Johnson refusing to raise taxes "

I'm almost afraid to ask, but how does this make sense? Any increase in taxes will be passed on to the consumer to increase prices even more. If you doubt this, watch what Trump's import taxes do to prices.

Yves Smith Post author , April 25, 2017 at 9:54 pm

No, you have been propagandized by the right wing anti tax people.

Taxes drains demand from the economy. Lower demand means more slack, more merchants having to compete with each other, some headcount cuts, etc.

By deficit spending in an economy that was already at full employment, Johnson basically guaranteed inflation. Both his own former economist, Walter Heller, and Milton Friedman warned against it. But because Heller was a Dem and an outlier (most Dems weren't gonna challenge their own party's policies), it was Friedman's warnings that were publicized.

Kalen , April 25, 2017 at 1:16 pm

Another subject that is relevant to the current post 2008 collapse and FED shenanigans to save the day. i.e. save their cronies. And what it is completely missing in this piece written by the insiders is exactly that Bretton Woods; Cui Bono:namely US ruling elite and new world order after WWII.

Bretton Woods was a monetary session of the overall conference 1944-1945 of new world order namely a formal switch from British empire global dominance system into American global dominance system and trade/monetary policies were just an important but small part of overall new global political and military arrangement.

Global pound was killed, global dollar has been created and blessed by western sphere of influence and defended by supposedly the most powerful US militarily in the world, [as was British navy before] US military of global reach via US navy and air force.

The political symbolism of Bretton Woods conference correlated with invasion of Normandy in June 1944, the last step in defeating Nazism in Europe cannot be understated.

Also the dominance of two figures of White and Keynes in this conference is an exemplification of closing era of British empire as a world [decaying at that time] leader which was accelerated by the role of Japanese and German/Italian aggression in colonial Asia, Africa [also helped by French surrender to Nazis that spurred western support for independent French colony of Algeria] and ME boosted up the anti-colonial movements and political parties, which like in Vietnam even US supported during WWII.

Little known fact is that Nazis championed themselves as anti-colonial force in ME while they attempted to colonize eastern Europe.The many Arabs fell for this propaganda siding with Nazis against British colonialism in Palestine setting themselves against Jews vehemently anti Nazi at that time.

In other words Bretton Woods was a consequence of the fact that British empire was collapsing fast ironically with the help of its allies and that Included Soviets. Also helped that British were broke and all the British Gold was already in the US as a payment for bankrolling British defenses in Europe since 1940 and elsewhere, so were Soviet gold payments for military technology and materiel they received from US and allies.

The political void had to be filled or it would have been filled by Soviets, and hence the Bretton Woods system was not based on unfettered exploitation of slaves of newly expanded US empire what US Oligarchy would have liked and was freely practicing before 1929, but for ideological reason was aimed for economic improvements in order to stem massive anti-capitalist, communist and anti-colonist movements that threatened western hegemony over the world and hence the dreaded anti-capitalist words used by in Bretton Woods system like fixed exchange rate or blasphemous capital controls, things the would crucify you if you utter them today during a seminar in any Ivy league economy department.

Bretton Woods was primarily a tool into an ideological war west and Soviets knew they would have to fight, cold or hot.

This [economic dominance] war ended in mid nineteen sixties when seeds of collapse of Soviet Union and betrayal of leftist ideals and socialist/communists movements all over the world were sawed and hence Bretton Woods was no longer needed and brutality of unfettered capitalist could begin to return starting with Kennedy tax cut freeing capital in private hands and then FED going full fiat in later 1960-ties, capital flow deregulation, free floating currencies, all that for benefit of oligarchic class and of colossal detriment to American workers, devastating result of which we are experiencing now.

jsn , April 25, 2017 at 1:48 pm

One of the great ironies of Bretton Woods is that Harry Dexter White, the US rep at the talks was in fact a Soviet agent. I wonder if he understood monetary economics enough to hope that the Bretton Woods gold standard system, as opposed to Keynes bancor proposal, would self immolate with a run on US gold stocks and take the West down with it.

OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL , April 25, 2017 at 6:15 pm

Let's think of "root causes", both Keynes and White were big fans of Soviet-style command and control top-down planned economies ("I have seen the future and it works!"). So that's what they divined and devised for money: a top-down price-fixing regime.

So while people would laugh themselves silly if you told them we were going to price things the way the Soviets did ("we'll raise X number of cows because we'll need Y quantity of shoe leather"), we somehow accept central planning for the price of the most important item of all: money itself. The supreme geniuses at the Fed et al, with their supreme formulae, can divine at any moment precisely what the price of money should be. This, of course, is folly.

And people should understand that the gold standard (not the gold-exchange standard it is often confused with) was not designed, was not somehow imposed, and was not agreed upon by some collective body. It simply arose organically because time and again through painful experience throughout history it was shown that any system where people can simply vote themselves more money ends in tears. Not usually, but always. You'd think that a 100% historical failure rate would clue people in to rethink the head-hammer-hitting approach.

And as Dr. Haygood points out above, "everything floating against everything else" is nothing but a colossal waste of time and money. You wouldn't attempt to build or make something without an agreed and immutable unit of measure.

jsn , April 25, 2017 at 6:46 pm

Completely untrue of Keynes. He ran the UK Treasury twice very pointedly in the interests of industrial capitalists. He was however very opposed to financial rents, a real classicist in that regard.

jsn , April 25, 2017 at 7:07 pm

Keynes ran the UK treasury twice more or less along classical lines: in favor of industrial capitalism and against financial rents. Not top down, not Soviet. Its not clear where you get your facts, fiat systems have lasted hundreds of years many times. They tend to arise in empires with secure borders. They depend on the productive relations of their societies for the value of their money rather than a commodity hedge.

Warfare favors the commodity hedge because the productive relations in a society are frequently destroyed by war. Because of the stickyness of wages, hard currency tends to choke economic growth because a fixed money supply has to be spread increasingly thin as more real wealth is created to be denominated with a fixed quantity of specie, requiring wages to drop because there is more stuff to purchase.

Each has benefits and costs, both are tools and while the one favors growth and the other war, neither must be used for either. A representative system will use either as its constituencies direct, an authoritarian one according to the intent of the authority. It isn't tools that make the problems, though some are better for some purposes than others. It is the intent of the powerful that is expressed and from which others suffer.

Robert NYC , April 25, 2017 at 8:18 pm

@jsn " fiat systems have lasted hundreds of years many times."

what? can you please back that statement up. Only major fiat system in history that I have ever seen written about is the one that existed in China several hundred years ago. If there were others you need to give some examples.

Todde , April 25, 2017 at 10:24 pm

Split Tally sticks.

OpenthepodbaydoorsHAL , April 25, 2017 at 9:58 pm

I think you objected to my comments without actually refuting them:
1. We have a top-down price fixing money system;
2. Keynes and White were a big fans of Soviet central planning (see The Battle for Bretton Woods for chapter and verse);
3. And I've never understood the "fixed quantity of specie" argument. Surely it's about price, not physical quantity. You could easily run the world economy on 100 tons of gold if it was priced accordingly.

Vikas Saini , April 25, 2017 at 2:41 pm

Michael Hudson's book Superimperialism, published astonishingly in 1972, nailed it. Details some great history of FDR's economic diplomacy during the late Depression and WW2 period that preceded the Bretton Woods settlement. Worth a read.

Mark P. , April 25, 2017 at 5:14 pm

More than worth a read. Essential.

Robert NYC , April 25, 2017 at 9:46 pm

yes Michael Hudson is great, but that is why he must be marginalized/ignored. Can't maintain control of the official narrative if people like Hudson were to ever be taken seriously..

Robert NYC , April 25, 2017 at 3:16 pm

"However, the likelihood that the dollar will be replaced as the dominant international currency in the foreseeable future remains remote. The dollar standard and the legacy of the Bretton Woods system will be with us for a long time."

That is the BIG question and the answer remains to be seen. I for one don't believe it will continue much longer, but then again nobody knows. Bordo also leaves out a critical part of the narrative, i.e., the U.S. secret deal with Saudi Arabia in 1974 to officially tie the dollar to oil. See link below for details. Without this secret arrangement the dollar would have never survived as the international reserve currency. The Saudis reportedly pushed for greater use of the SDR, but the U.S. made them a deal they couldn't refuse and the Saudi royal family realized that if they didn't go along with U.S. demands the CIA would find some other branch of the family that would.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-05-30/the-untold-story-behind-saudi-arabia-s-41-year-u-s-debt-secret

The system is a mess and it is retarded to allow one country's currency to serve as the main reserve asset for the system. That is the ultimate free lunch and the equivalent to believing in a perpetual motion machine. It is hard to believe in can continue much longer despite of Bordo's view that it will. It has reached a point where it has created massive problems that can not continue.

MyLessThanPrimeBeef , April 25, 2017 at 3:33 pm

So, it's not 'out of thin air.

It's back by the might of the Pentagon mightier than gold.

Robert NYC , April 25, 2017 at 3:49 pm

Exactly! But nobody at the Fed is going to explain this to anyone, anytime soon.

Mark P. , April 25, 2017 at 5:30 pm

MyLessThanPrimeBeef wrote: So, it's not 'out of thin air. It's back by the might of the Pentagon mightier than gold.

And in turn the seignorage on that ability to create as much of the global reserve currency as the U.S. likes pays for the Pentagon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seigniorage

So in a sense when China and Russia are forced to hold dollars for global trade, they're essentially paying for the Pentagon to do what it's doing. You can see why they'd be mad.

steven , April 25, 2017 at 3:47 pm

It is almost a gift from heaven when fixing a single problem offers the chance to fix a whole bunch of them. This IMHO is very possibly one of those gifts. Without this "ultimate free lunch" the globalization scam of allowing this country's and the world's 1% to keep adding zeros to their bank accounts ("to keep score" as Pres. Trump puts it) would not have been possible. Without countries like Saudi Arabia willing to keep accepting more "debt that can't be repaid (and) won't be", the US military industrial complex would not be able to keep increasing its threat to world peace and threatening the survival of humanity. Without the Saudi stranglehold over politics and US Middle Eastern policy the US could stop killing Muslims in its bogus 'war on terror'. It could get busy replacing its fossil fuel energy sources with renewable ones and its oil-powered transportation system with an electrified one (yes, maybe even a few EVs)

@Robert NYC – Thanks for the link.

Mark P. , April 25, 2017 at 5:23 pm

It is hard to believe in can continue much longer despite of Bordo's view that it will.

And yet where is the dollar's replacement?

If you'd told me ten years that the petrodollar as an institution enforcing compliance w. the dollar as global reserve currency could end and yet the dollar would continue with that status, I'd have laughed at you. However, that increasingly looks like it might happen.

Yes, yes, I know - we await the basket of currencies solution pushed by China and Russia, and others sick of the situation. We've been waiting for a while now.

Steven , April 25, 2017 at 7:03 pm

I'm thinking globalization has something to do with the dollar's longevity. Strip a country of the ability to support itself by exporting its jobs and it's people become dependent on a strong military to insure it's money continues to be "accepted" even when it's people no longer have anything to trade for what they really need.

Moneta , April 25, 2017 at 8:19 pm

I think there is indeed a link between the usd as reserve currency and the military budget.

Robert NYC , April 25, 2017 at 9:12 pm

@Moneta, these numbers are roughly correct. The U.S. defense budget is about $600 billion, the trade deficit is about $600 billion and last year we issued $1.4 trillion in incremental debt. Foreigners own about 40% of U.S. debt. 40% of of $1.4 trillion is $560 billion so yes there is a pretty strong correlation. Massive defense budget wouldn't be possible without reserve currency scam.

Robert NYC , April 25, 2017 at 8:21 pm

@Mark P.

yes that is the conundrum. It doesn't make a lot of sense but it goes on and on. Another 50 years? Unlikely.

Adamski , April 25, 2017 at 7:20 pm

I'm completely confused. Anything available in plain English for laypeople?

"The adjustment problem in Bretton Woods reflected downward rigidity in wages and prices which prevented the normal price adjustment of the gold standard price specie flow mechanism to operate"

George Job , April 25, 2017 at 9:05 pm

That fiat currencies have lasted hundreds of years jsn is simply not true. I was thinking forty but here we see 27!
http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2011/08/average-life-expectancy-for-fiat.html

And it's the US and Canada being the only countries globally not marking their gold holdings to market. (or audit) Reserve currency indeed!
http://marketupdate.nl/en/analysis-china-marks-gold-reserve-at-market-value/

Tim , April 25, 2017 at 9:52 pm

Canada which was one of the founding members of Bretton Woods pulled out as early as 1949 in order to move to a floating exchange rate and full capital mobility. Bretton Woods was dead before it ever began.

[Apr 14, 2017] If the Federal Reserve can create trillions of dollars with a single keystroke, and the Fed is the governments bank, then why does President Obama claim weve run out of money?

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RGC , April 14, 2017 at 05:48 AM
So ask yourself this question:

If the Federal Reserve can create trillions of dollars with a single keystroke, and the Fed is the government's bank, then why does President Obama claim we've "run out" of money?

Why have Democrats and so-called progressives supported job-killing budget cuts in the name of "shared sacrifice"? Why are we throwing away the equivalent of $9.8 billion in lost output every single day? Why don't we do something about our $2.2 trillion infrastructure deficit, 25 million underemployed and unemployed Americans, 100 million Americans in or very near poverty, and so on?

The answer is simple. Most of us don't understand the monetary system. Instead of deciding how the government should wield its power over the dollar, we live in fear of the ratings agencies, the Chinese, the bond market vigilantes and other imaginary evils. And this holds all of us back. Unused resources abound, human needs go unmet, and the vast majority of Americans believe that 'There Is No Alternative' (TINA). Or, as Warren Mosler says, "Because we fear becoming the next Greece, we're turning ourselves into the next Japan."

There is an alternative. And it begins with an understanding of the monetary system. The cat is already out of the bag. Chairman Bernanke confirms it. Money is no object.

http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2012/03/where-did-the-federal-reserve-get-all-that-money.html

RGC -> RGC... , April 14, 2017 at 05:51 AM
Prominent C20th Economist Explains How the Lie is for Our Own Good

Posted on 2 January 2014

Infamous footage of Paul Samuelson, posted by Mike Norman, explaining why we can't be trusted with the truth.

Just believe the scary bedtime story about the big bad Budget Deficit and stay asleep now. There's a good child.

http://heteconomist.com/prominent-c20th-economist-explains-how-the-lie-is-for-our-own-good/

BenIsNotYoda -> RGC... , April 14, 2017 at 06:59 AM
RGC,
the people here have been brainwashed and can not think for themselves. If it has not been approved by their favorite academic, it is a crank theory. they'd rather believe in fairy tales like NGDP level targeting - the fed will wish it into reality. Rather than pay attention to the MMT that you and I subscribe to.
BenIsNotYoda -> BenIsNotYoda... , April 14, 2017 at 07:04 AM
Moreover it is logical for them to stick to the "the Fed is omnipotent" as it bids up asset prices and maintains the status quo. It vests more power in the institutions that benefit the people you see here.

Blame the right, blame the deregulators, blame the tax cutters, blame the liberatarians, etc. that is the how they maintain the status quo. And Mosler is right on - Bernanke turned us into Japan trying to save us from that fate. And he is sliding down the rabbit hole - "I should have doubled down on my failed strategy"
why? because he was able to bid up the stock market? I bet you everyone of the Fed worshippers here benefit personally from the asset price binges that the stupid Fed has gotten us addicted to.

RGC -> BenIsNotYoda... , April 14, 2017 at 07:40 AM
There has been a major propaganda element in economics for a long time.

People have to dig deep to discover the truth and many don't have the time.

There is a lot of money behind the propaganda on the neoclassical/neoliberal side so it gets a lot more publicity.

As that side sinks the society deeper and deeper into malfunction, hopefully more people will take the time to understand.

JohnH -> RGC... , April 14, 2017 at 09:13 AM
Yep! "There has been a major propaganda element in economics for a long time."

Robert Rubin had an opinion piece at the Council on Foreign Relations, another propaganda rag: "Don't Politicize the Federal Reserve"
http://www.cfr.org/monetary-policy/dont-politicize-federal-reserve/p39037

Per Rubin and his cronies in the Wall Street banking cartel, the Fed is fine as it is...serving the interests of the Wall Street banking cartel. The cartel has a good think going...why disrupt it by taking into account the public good?

Has Rubin ever done anything in the interest of the public?

[Apr 13, 2017] I hate the word manipulation in this context. China isn't doing anything in the dark of the night that we are trying to catch them at.

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anne , April 13, 2017 at 07:44 AM
http://cepr.net/blogs/beat-the-press/china-and-currency-values-fast-growing-countries-run-trade-deficits

April 13, 2017

China and Currency Values: Fast Growing Countries Run Trade Deficits

I don't generally comment on pieces that reference me, but Jordan Weissman has given me such a beautiful teachable moment that I can't resist. Weissman wrote * about Donald Trump's reversal on his campaign pledge to declare China a currency manipulator. Weissman assures us that Trump was completely wrong in his campaign rhetoric and that China does not in fact try to depress the value of its currency.

"It's pretty hard to argue with that. Far from devaluing its currency, China has actually spent more than $1 trillion of its vaunted foreign reserves over the past couple of years trying to prop up the value of the yuan as investors have funneled money overseas. There are some on the left, like economist Dean Baker, who will argue that Beijing is still effectively suppressing the redback's value by refusing to unwind its dollar reserves more quickly. But if China were really keeping its currency severely underpriced, you'd expect it to still have a big current account surplus, reminiscent of 10 years ago, which it doesn't anymore."

Okay, to start with, I hate the word "manipulation" in this context. China isn't doing anything in the dark of the night that we are trying to catch them at. The country pretty explicitly manages the value of its currency against the dollar, that is why it holds more than $3 trillion in reserves. So let's just use the word "manage," in reference to its currency. It is more neutral and more accurate.

It also allows us to get away from the idea that China is somehow a villain and that we here in the good old US of A are the victims. There are plenty of large U.S. corporations that hugely benefit from having an under-valued Chinese currency. For example Walmart has developed a low cost supply chain that depends largely on goods manufactured in China. It is not anxious for the price of the items it imports rise by 15-30 percent because of a rise in the value of the yuan against the dollar.

The same applies to big manufacturers like GE that have moved much of their production to China and other developing countries. These companies do not "lose" because China is running a large trade surplus with the United States, they were in fact big winners.

Okay, but getting back to the issue at hand, I'm going to throw the textbook at Weissman. It is not true that we should expect China "to still have big current account surplus" if it were deliberately keeping its currency below market levels.

China is a developing country with an annual growth rate of close to 7.0 percent. The U.S. is a rich country with growth averaging less than 2.0 percent in last five years. Europe is growing at just a 1.0 percent rate, and Japan even more slowly. Contrary to what Weissman tells us, we should expect that capital would flow from slow growing rich countries to fast growing developing countries. This is because capital will generally get a better return in an economy growing at a 7.0 percent rate than the 1-2 percent rate in the rich countries.

If capital flows from rich countries to poor countries, this means they are running current account surpluses. The capital flows are financing imports in developing countries. These imports allow developing countries to sustain the living standards of their populations even as they build up their infrastructure and capital stock. In other words, if China was not depressing the value of its currency we should it expect it to be running a large trade deficit.

This is actually the way the world worked way back in the 1990s, a period apparently beyond the memory of most economics reporters. The countries of East Asia enjoyed extremely rapid growth, ** while running large trade deficits. This all changed following the East Asian financial crisis and the disastrous bailout arranged by Secretary of Treasury Robert Rubin and friends. *** Developing countries became huge exporters of capital as they held down the value of their currencies in order to run large trade surpluses and build up massive amounts of reserves.

But Weissman is right that China is no longer buying up reserves, but the issue is its huge stock of reserves. As I explained in a blogpost **** a couple of days ago:

"Porter is right that China is no longer buying reserves, but it still holds over $3 trillion in reserves. This figure goes to well over $4 trillion if we include its sovereign wealth fund. Is there a planet where we don't think this affects the value of the dollar relative to the yuan?

"To help people's thought process, the Federal Reserve Board holds over $3 trillion in assets as a result of its quantitative easing program. I don't know an economist anywhere who doesn't think the Fed's holding of assets is still keeping interest rates down, as compared to a scenario in which it had a more typical $500 billion to $1 trillion in assets.

"Currencies work the same way. If China offloaded $3 trillion in reserves and sovereign wealth holdings, it would increase the supply of dollars in the world. And, as Karl Marx says, when the supply of something increases, its price falls. In other words, if China had a more normal amount of reserve holdings, the value of the dollar would fall, increasing the competitiveness of U.S. goods and services, thereby reducing the trade deficit."

So, there really are no mysteries here. China is holding down the value of its currency, which is making the U.S. trade deficit worse. It is often claimed that they want their currency to rise. That may well be true, which suggests an obvious opportunity for cooperation. If the U.S. and China announce a joint commitment to raise the value of the yuan over the next 2-3 years then we can be fairly certain of accomplishing this goal.

This should be a very simple win-win for both countries. Walmart and GE might be unhappy, but almost everyone else would be big winners, especially if we told them not to worry about Pfizer's drug patent and Microsoft's copyright on Windows.

* http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2017/04/12/trump_changes_his_mind_decides_china_isn_t_a_currency_manipulator_after.html

** http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2016/02/weodata/weorept.aspx?pr.x=45&pr.y=7&sy=1990&ey=2000&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&c=522%2C924%2C536%2C578%2C548%2C582&s=NGDP_RPCH%2CBCA_NGDPD&grp=0&a=

*** http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1999/1101990215_400.jpg

**** http://cepr.net/blogs/beat-the-press/trump-china-and-trade

-- Dean Baker

[Apr 13, 2017] Currency manipulation vs currency management

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anne , April 12, 2017 at 08:23 AM
http://cepr.net/blogs/beat-the-press/trump-china-and-trade

April 11, 2017

Trump, China, and Trade

It is unfortunate that Donald Trump seems closer to the mark on China and trade than many economists and people who write on economic issues for major news outlets. Today, Eduardo Porter gets things partly right in his column * telling readers "Trump isn't wrong on China currency manipulation just late." The thrust of the piece is that China did in fact deliberately prop up the dollar against its currency, thereby causing the U.S. trade deficit to explode. However, he argues this is all history now and that China's currency is properly valued.

Let's start with the first part of the story. It's hardly a secret that China bought trillions of dollars of foreign exchange in the last decade. The predicted and actual effect of this action was to raise the value of the dollar against the yuan. The result is that the price of U.S. exports were inflated for people living in China and the price of imports from China were held down.

Porter then asks why the Bush administration didn't do anything when this trade deficit was exploding in the years 2002–2007. We get the answer from Eswar Prasad, a former I.M.F. official who headed their oversight of China:

"'There were other dimensions of China's economic policies that were seen as more important to U.S. economic and business interests,' Eswar Prasad, who headed the China desk at the International Monetary Fund and is now a professor at Cornell, told me. These included 'greater market access, better intellectual property rights protection, easier access to investment opportunities, etc.'"

Okay, step back and absorb this one. Mr. Prasad is saying that millions of manufacturing workers in the Midwest lost their jobs and saw their communities decimated because the Bush administration wanted to press China to enforce Pfizer's patents on drugs, Microsoft's copyrights on Windows, and to secure better access to China's financial markets for Goldman Sachs.

This is not a new story, in fact I say it all the time. But it's nice to have the story confirmed by the person who occupied the International Monetary Fund's China desk at the time.

Porter then jumps in and gets his story completely 100 percent wrong:

"At the end of the day, economists argued at the time, Chinese exchange rate policies didn't cost the United States much. After all, in 2007 the United States was operating at full employment. The trade deficit was because of Americans' dismal savings rate and supercharged consumption, not a cheap renminbi. After all, if Americans wanted to consume more than they created, they had to get it somewhere."

Sorry, this was the time when even very calm sensible people like Federal Reserve Board Chair Ben Bernanke were talking about a "savings glut." The U.S. and the world had too much savings, which lead to a serious problem of unemployment. Oh, we did eventually find a way to deal with excess savings.

Anyone remember the housing bubble? The demand generated by the bubble eventually pushed the labor market close to full employment. (The employment rate of prime age workers was still down by 2.0 percentage points in 2007 compared to 2000 - and the drop was for both men and women, so skip the problem with men story.)

Yeah, that bubble didn't end too well. So much for Porter's no big deal story.

But what about the present, are we all good now?

Porter is right that China is no longer buying reserves, but it still holds over $3 trillion in reserves. This figure goes to well over $4 trillion if we include its sovereign wealth fund. Is there a planet where we don't think this affects the value of the dollar relative to the yuan?

To help people's thought process, the Federal Reserve Board holds over $3 trillion in assets as a result of its quantitative easing program. I don't know an economist anywhere who doesn't think the Fed's holding of assets is still keeping interest rates down, as compared to a scenario in which it had a more typical $500 billion to $1 trillion in assets.

Currencies work the same way. If China offloaded $3 trillion in reserves and sovereign wealth holdings, it would increase the supply of dollars in the world. And, as Karl Marx says, when the supply of something increases, its price falls. In other words, if China had a more normal amount of reserve holdings, the value of the dollar would fall, increasing the competitiveness of U.S. goods and services, thereby reducing the trade deficit.

At the beginning of the piece, Porter discusses the question of China's currency "manipulation." (I would much prefer the more neutral and accurate term "currency management." There is nothing very secret here.) He tells readers:

"It would be hard, these days, to find an economist who feels China fits the bill."

Perhaps. Of course it would have been difficult to find an economist who recognized the $8 trillion housing bubble, the collapse of which wrecked the economy. As the saying goes, "economists are not very good at economics."

* https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/11/business/economy/trump-china-currency-manipulation-trade.html

-- Dean Baker

[Apr 12, 2017] Should France leave the EU, would euros held by, say, someone in Italy then become worthless?

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Anachronism -> anne... , April 12, 2017 at 04:58 AM
Dr Krugman ignored another wrinkle in France leaving the euro; the euro itself.

While GB joined the EU, it retained the british pound. So, Brexit won't affect it monetarily. France, on the other hand, did convert to the euro (in hindsight, another enormous mistake). Each euro has an identifier, similar to how we designate the origin by Fed Reserve, which designates it's country of origin.

So, should France leave the EU, would euros held by, say, someone in Italy then become worthless? This isn't someone most people concern themselves with. When was the last time someone on this blog check to see which dollars in your wallet came from the Denver Fed? But, it may well be that the EU would stop honoring French euros, should they leave.

What a mess.

anne -> Anachronism... , April 12, 2017 at 05:18 AM
Interesting conjecture, but a Euro printed in France belongs to the Euro Area rather than to France in the same way that a dollar printed in Denver belongs to the United States. There is by the way, to my understanding, no treaty provision describing how any country in the Euro Area might leave.
pgl -> Anachronism... , April 12, 2017 at 05:42 AM
"Start with the euro. The single currency was and is a flawed project, and countries that never joined – Sweden, the UK, Iceland – have benefited from the flexibility that comes from independent currencies. There is, however, a huge difference between choosing not to join in the first place and leaving once in."

What did he ignore again?

pgl -> Anachronism... , April 12, 2017 at 05:43 AM
"should France leave the EU, would euros held by, say, someone in Italy then become worthless?"

They could readily convert existing Euros into Francs. This is the reverse of what they did in 1999.

Peter K. -> pgl... , April 12, 2017 at 08:27 AM
PGL thinks France can easily convert Euros into Francs or Germany can convert its Euros into DMs?

That would blow up the monetary union.

What a nut bar.

pgl -> Peter K.... , April 12, 2017 at 09:26 AM
"That would blow up the monetary union."

Oh gee - the end of the Euro would be the end of the universe. My internet stalker writes another incredibly stupid comment.

Peter K. -> pgl... , April 12, 2017 at 09:53 AM
" My internet stalker writes another incredibly stupid comment."

Shut up, old man. Stick to the subject at hand. Oh right you WANT to change the subject with insults.

Peter K. -> Anachronism... , April 12, 2017 at 08:29 AM
"So, should France leave the EU..."

Even if Greece left it would cause turmoil in the financial markets. That's the known unknown people are focused on to start the next crisis.

[Apr 12, 2017] What is the conceptual difference between the monetary base and outside money ?

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Lee A. Arnold April 12, 2017 at 03:02 AM

A question, for anyone: What is the conceptual difference between the "monetary base" and "outside money"? pgl -> Lee A. Arnold ... , April 12, 2017 at 05:40 AM
Outside money is money that is not a liability for anyone "inside" the economy. Think gold and silver.

The monetary base represents bank reserves and cash which are liabilities of the FED.

Lee A. Arnold -> pgl... , April 12, 2017 at 06:23 AM
Okay, but then the bank reserves which are held at the Fed by law could be defined as part of "outside money", because they aren't backed by anything in the private economy. Those reserves are established, or insisted upon, by government fiat, in essence. We know those reserves are not really backed by a precious metal or anything else but faith. So why are bank reserves held at the Fed not included in the definition of "outside money"?
RGC -> Lee A. Arnold ... , April 12, 2017 at 07:08 AM
From the standpoint of the private economy, reserves are 'outside money", because they circulate only within the Fed system. Currency is inside money because it circulates within the private economy, although it also circulates between government and private banks.

The monetary base is both currency and reserves.

So it takes a clear understanding of the purpose of the discussion and maybe even a Venn diagram.

Lee A. Arnold -> RGC... , April 12, 2017 at 09:13 AM
According to the definitions I can find, cash notes and coins (currency) are "outside money", even though they circulate within the private economy.
pgl -> RGC... , April 12, 2017 at 09:24 AM
You are using a different definition of "outside" here.
RGC -> pgl... , April 12, 2017 at 10:03 AM
How about this:

Outside money is money that is either of a fiat nature (unbacked) or backed by some asset that is not in zero net supply within the private sector of the economy.

Thus, outside money is a net asset for the private sector. The qualifier outside is short for (coming from) outside the private sector.

Inside money is an asset representing, or backed by, any form of private credit that circulates as a medium of exchange.

Since it is one private agent's liability and at the same time some other agent's asset, inside money is in zero net supply within the private sector.

The qualifier inside is short for (backed by debt from) inside the private sector.

https://minneapolisfed.org/research/SR/SR374.pdf

JF -> Lee A. Arnold ... , April 12, 2017 at 08:57 AM
Reserves established by govt fiat????

These are entries in accounts owned by the banks and put there by the banks and are money. These can not be 'taken' by the govt without compensation per law.

Govt fiat money created these??? No.

What concerns you?

pgl -> JF... , April 12, 2017 at 09:25 AM
Good point and the right question.
Lee A. Arnold -> JF... , April 12, 2017 at 09:53 AM
JF, Sorry, I only meant that the minimum reserves are established by the decree of the public-private partnership known as the central bank. So I was using "fiat" in the sense of "law". I should not have written that the bank reserves are established by gov't "fiat" in a discussion about money, because that is confusing.

And the reason for this law is to make sure that banks can cover their needs for cash, to prevent a run on the banking system.

But what this means, is that the ultimate foundation of part of the individual's trust in the money that is used, is based upon the existence of the requirement for bank reserves. Otherwise, people wouldn't trust the money supply. The trust is not based on any function more basic than bank reserves.

What else do people trust? Well of course people already trust paper notes and coins in daily transactions: they automatically suppose that the gov't backs it up. Backs it up, with what?, they do not know; but it works. And for checks and debits, they suppose that the bank is good for the cash -- which ultimately is based on the reserve requirement. So therefore, "trust" of money by the common folk is presently based upon 2 things, the existence of currency and the (vaguely understood yet reassuring) existence of bank reserves.

Well, the "money base" is defined as reserves + cash & coin. However, this seems to me to be the same definition as "outside money". So I am still wondering if there is another difference between the definitions.

Certainly people think of gold & silver as money, but if that is the only difference between "monetary base" and "outside money", I think it would be easy to alter the definition of "currency" to include them.

pgl -> Lee A. Arnold ... , April 12, 2017 at 09:24 AM
Of course banks reserves are not backed by gold. Gold is outside money - reserves are different.

But the FED does record them as a liability. Are you saying the FED is made up of Martians or what?

Not sure why you are confusing what appears to be a very simple distinction.

Peter K. -> pgl... , April 12, 2017 at 09:52 AM
"Not sure why you are confusing what appears to be a very simple distinction."

Not everyone is as smart as the pompous PGL the Facile!

[Apr 09, 2017] As soon as regulators relax their vigilance banks start feckless expansion

Notable quotes:
"... Probably the biggest single factor was public employment was savagely cut during the Obama presidency which would have kept economic activity higher at a fairly cheap cost. ..."
"... the owning/lending class tends to dislike inflation for some reason... ..."
"... I think this is highly dependent on one's understanding of "equitable". Monetary policy can be used in a way that ensures safe income streams to those who already own many financial assets. Some people think that is how it should be and therefore "equitable". ..."
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RGC -> RGC... April 08, 2017 at 07:17 AM

As John Kenneth Galbraith remarked:

"The central bank remains important for useful tasks - the clearing of checks, the replacement of worn and dirty banknotes, as a loan source of last resort. These tasks it performs well.

With other public agencies in the United States, it also supervises the subordinate commercial banks. This is a job which it can do well and needs to do better. In recent years the regulatory agencies, including the Federal reserve, have relaxed somewhat their vigilance. At the same time numerous of the banks have been involved in another of the age-old spasms of optimism and feckless expansion. The result could be a new round of failures. It is to such matters that the Federal Reserve needs to give its attention.

These tasks apart, the reputation of central bankers will be the greater, the less responsibility they assume. Perhaps they can lean against the wind - resist a little and increase rates when the demand for loans is persistently great, reverse themselves when the reverse situation holds.

But, in the main, control must be - as it was in the United States during the war years and the good years following - over the forces which cause firms and persons to seek loans and not over whether they are given or not given the loans."

-From "Money: Whence it came,Where it went" 1975 - pgs 305,6.

RGC -> RGC... , April 08, 2017 at 07:33 AM
[Mariner Eccles explained it way back in the 1930's:]

"Pushing on a String: An Origin Story

There's a long-standing metaphor in monetary policy that the central bank "can't push on a string." It means that while a central bank can certainly slow down an economy or even drive an economy into recession with an ill-timed or too-large increase interest rates, the power of monetary policy is not symmetric.

When a central bank reduces interest rates in an attempt to stimulate the economy, it may not make much difference if banks don't think it's a good time to lend or firms and consumers don't think it's a good time to borrow. In other words, monetary policy is like a string with which a central bank can "pull" back the economy, but pushing on a string just crumples the string.

The "can't push on a string" metaphor appears in many intro-level economics texts. It has also gotten a heavy work-out these last few years as people have sought to understand why either economic output or inflation wasn't stimulated more greatly by having the Federal Reserve's target interest rate (the "federal funds" rate) near zero percent for going on seven years now, especially when combined with "forward guidance" promises that this policy would continue into the future and a couple trillion dollars of direct Federal Reserve purchases of Treasury debt and mortgage-backed securities.

The first use of "pushing on a string" in a monetary policy context may have occurred in hearings before House Committee on Banking and Currency on March 18, 1935, concerning the proposed Banking Act of 1935. Marriner Eccles, who was appointed Chairman of the Fed in 1934 and served on the Board of Governors until 1951, was taking questions from Rep. Thomas Alan Goldsborough (D-MD) and Prentiss M. Brown (D-MI). The hearings are here; the relevant exchange is on p. 377, during a discussion of what the Fed might be able to do to end deflation."

http://conversableeconomist.blogspot.com/2015/07/pushing-on-string-origin-story.html

Peter K. -> RGC... , April 08, 2017 at 08:05 AM
The Fed didn't try very hard with its unconventional monetary policy. It was always worried about inflation. Plus it had to overcome the unprecedented austerity which Congress pushed on the economy.

If you look at the recovery and say monetary policy didn't work, you are either insane or highly ideological.

Now, the recovery could have been much quicker and better with the help of fiscal policy and other policies.

RC AKA Darryl, Ron said in reply to RGC... , April 08, 2017 at 09:14 AM
Thx.

OK, this is a joke =

We are all quantity of money theory people now.

Must be so, because the following certainly is not true =

"We are all Keynesians now"

OK, not all one way or the other but the Keynesians are under siege by monetarists including ones that do not know what a monetarist is or that they are one.

RC AKA Darryl, Ron said in reply to RC AKA Darryl, Ron... , April 08, 2017 at 09:28 AM
It is not that monetary policy is entirely ineffective at stimulating demand, but that its effects are very limited according to the very narrow channels in which its effects are most pronounced, intermediation risks, widening the term spread or yield curve, and making short term business loans and related prime rate small short term loans. It does next to nothing towards reducing credit rationing by financial institutions after a shock, which would be highly stimulative compared to just lowering the FFR. Purchase of the riskiest assets by the Fed was probably most effective at reducing credit rationing since it lowered the risk of bank loan portfolios. Just buying up safe assets had mixed results on lowering long term interest rates, but was more successful on that than reducing credit rationing.
RC AKA Darryl, Ron said in reply to RC AKA Darryl, Ron... , April 08, 2017 at 09:30 AM
Since the FFR was at the ZLB, further lowering long term interest rates also flattened the yield curve.
Peter K. -> RC AKA Darryl, Ron... , April 08, 2017 at 10:27 AM
All your jargon obscures the point that the Fed didn't really try that hard with its unconventional policy b/c of politics.

It's like arguing that the ARRA didn't work very well. It did work and could have been bigger and better but policymakers are too conservative when it comes to macro policy.

RGC -> RC AKA Darryl, Ron... , April 08, 2017 at 09:29 AM
Subtle..... I think.
Peter K. -> RC AKA Darryl, Ron... , April 08, 2017 at 10:29 AM
Again you're muddying the issue. It's not really monetarists versus Keynesians.

It's these know-nothing lefties who think that tight money doesn't matter.

RC AKA Darryl, Ron said in reply to Peter K.... , April 08, 2017 at 11:35 AM
Tight money means credit rationing. Cheap money does not necessarily get looser. Yes, widening the term spread helps loosen, but narrowing the term spread does not. Other forms of monetary policy such as government loan guarantees on small business loans loosen money more than QE.
Peter K. -> RGC... , April 08, 2017 at 08:01 AM
"Monetary policy has always been ineffective in stimulating demand"

Simply not true.

RGC -> Peter K.... , April 08, 2017 at 08:11 AM
As I've told you before, I see no point in arguing the issue with you.
Peter K. -> RGC... , April 08, 2017 at 08:28 AM
Because you're wrong and misleading. The Fed does the minimal amount of experimental unconventional policy - always paranoid over inflation - while Congress forces unprecedented fiscal austerity on the economy. I'd say monetary policy works. Doesn't mean fiscal policy doesn't work better.
Peter K. -> Peter K.... , April 08, 2017 at 08:41 AM
"Now here we are, in 2017, after the Obama Administration has brought the deficit down from $1.5 trillion in Fiscal Year 2009 to $621 billion in FY2016, "

Via Max Sawicky, below. $900 billion in austerity that monetary policy had to fight against.

Pinkybum -> Peter K.... , April 08, 2017 at 09:25 AM
I don't think it is as simple as you have outlined here. Debt as a percentage of GDP has doubled since 2009 so that has provided some relief. Probably the biggest single factor was public employment was savagely cut during the Obama presidency which would have kept economic activity higher at a fairly cheap cost.
Peter K. -> Pinkybum... , April 08, 2017 at 10:24 AM
"Debt as a percentage of GDP has doubled since 2009 so that has provided some relief."

wut?

The largest difference was there was little to no Federal aid to the states which had to run balanced budgets.

We can all agree after the ARRA ran its course, there was massive, unprecedented austerity forced on the economy by Republicans, just as in the UK and we see the results when central banks didn't do enough unconventional policy to fully offset it.

A crappy recovery and the election of Trump/Brexit.

RGC -> Peter K.... , April 08, 2017 at 09:18 AM
Because I know you won't change your mind and you can't resist getting personal.
Peter K. -> RGC... , April 08, 2017 at 10:24 AM
You just repeat the same quotes over and over again as if that will change anyone's minds.
RGC -> Peter K.... , April 08, 2017 at 10:36 AM
This is exactly why I don't want to discuss the issue with you. You never address the issue and you make a personal remark.
Peter K. -> RGC... , April 08, 2017 at 10:48 AM
I never address the issue? All you do is repeat quotes form men who have long since died.
RC AKA Darryl, Ron said in reply to Peter K.... , April 08, 2017 at 11:36 AM
Men rather than mice though.
yuan -> RGC... , April 08, 2017 at 09:58 AM
monetary policy can redistribute capital in a more equitable manner. are you opposed to this? do you think the rich deserve their gains?
RGC -> yuan... , April 08, 2017 at 10:41 AM
I think your statement is erroneous. Show me how "monetary policy can redistribute capital in a more equitable manner." and we could discuss it.
yuan -> RGC... , April 08, 2017 at 11:11 AM
the owning/lending class tends to dislike inflation for some reason...
Jerry Brown said in reply to RGC... , April 08, 2017 at 11:19 AM
I think this is highly dependent on one's understanding of "equitable". Monetary policy can be used in a way that ensures safe income streams to those who already own many financial assets. Some people think that is how it should be and therefore "equitable".

I have no idea how monetary policy with its currently defined policy tools can be used effectively, by itself, to redistribute wealth in the other direction, which is probably most people's understanding of "equitable".

If it was, by itself, able to cause large jumps in inflation, that might feed back into rapidly rising nominal wages and large losses to the current holders of financial assets like bonds and loan books. That might be considered more "equitable" to some, but current limitations on monetary policy prevent it from creating inflation all by itself.

RGC -> Jerry Brown... , April 08, 2017 at 11:34 AM
I like your understanding of "equitable" better.

[Apr 08, 2017] A new study suggests that near-zero interest rates - accompanied by a lackluster recovery - may become a common occurrence.

Notable quotes:
"... When the Federal Reserve lowered interest rates to close to zero during the financial crisis, it was an extraordinary move. The central bank had hit the limits of conventional monetary policy, leaving the recovery to sputter along with less help than it needed ..."
"... A new study suggests that near-zero interest rates - accompanied by a lackluster recovery - may become a common occurrence. ..."
Apr 08, 2017 | www.nytimes.com

Peter K., Saturday, April 08, 2017 at 08:21 AM

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/upshot/the-economy-may-be-stuck-in-a-near-zero-world.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=1

" When the Federal Reserve lowered interest rates to close to zero during the financial crisis, it was an extraordinary move. The central bank had hit the limits of conventional monetary policy, leaving the recovery to sputter along with less help than it needed ."

This is a huge lie. The Fed did not do what it could have done. It did the minimal amount possible, always afraid of setting off inflation. The Fed said it delivered the recovery it wanted. It gave the economy exactly the help the Fed thought it needed. Then why the dishonesty from Wulfers. It's the kind we get from PGL the Facile.

Why did the Fed deliver a lame recovery is the question Wolfers should be asking, but it's the kind of thing mainstream economists like him and PGL avoid. It's class war.

" A new study suggests that near-zero interest rates - accompanied by a lackluster recovery - may become a common occurrence.

That's troubling for many reasons. If the Fed can't cut rates as much as required to fight a slowing economy, then recessions will become more common and more painful. It suggests an urgent need to reconsider how we will counter the next bout of bad economic news, preferably before it arrives. If monetary policy won't be enough, perhaps fiscal policy will be. Certainly, this is no time for complacency."

Yes fiscal policy would help deliver a better recovery as the Fed has repeatedly said, but again Wolfers is misleading his readers. The Fed could do more. It's not out of bullets. It's raising rates. Wolfers is really doing a disservice to his readers in an apparent attempt to talk up fiscal policy in a dishonest way. WTF.

"But when normal interest rates are closer to 3 percent, the Fed can cut rates only a few times, because rates can only go so low - perhaps as low as zero, maybe a tad lower. This means that in even a typical downturn, the Fed may be unable to cut rates as much as it would like."

But then it turns to unconventional policy. Seriously. WTF.

"This dynamic can feed on itself. The less ammunition the Fed has to blast the economy out of its malaise, the weaker and slower will be the recovery, making it more likely that the next bad shock will require the Fed to cut rates more than is feasible."

It doesn't have less ammunition. Now Wolfers finally admits there's something called unconventional policy.

"The Fed has already been experimenting with monetary policy, but it hasn't been enough. In the wake of the financial crisis, for example, it bought bonds in a program known as quantitative easing, cutting long-term interest rates once short-term rates were near zero. The resulting stimulus was relatively small, reducing long-term rates by only a fraction of a percentage point, and the program was politically unpopular.

The authors suggest an alternative approach in which the Fed makes up for "missing stimulus" by promising to keep rates lower, for longer periods. In their view, the Fed needs to make up for the interest rate cuts that it wishes it could have made, but couldn't. Promising this in the depths of a downturn would offer businesses reason to be optimistic, they say, boosting the recovery. The Fed would need to keep rates low, even as inflation overshot its target.

It's a promising approach, but would people really believe the Fed's promises? I know a lot of central bankers, and I fear they are incapable of sitting still while inflation rises above their stated target."

Wolfers admits that central bankers haven't pushed very hard on unconventional policy, shattering his thesis. They're paranoid over inflation.

"Perhaps the answer lies outside the Fed. It may be time to revive a more active role for fiscal policy - government spending and taxation - so that the government fills in for the missing stimulus when the Fed can't cut rates any longer. Given political realities, this may be best achieved by building in stronger automatic stabilizers, mechanisms to increase spending in bad times, without requiring Congressional action."

That's a good idea no matter whether unconventional monetary policy works or not. But Republicans are blocking it, so monetary policy is all we have. It doesn't help to say it doesn't work and we must suffer long painful recoveries.

"The general distrust of fiscal policy may well have made sense; many economists are more likely to trust the technocrats at the Fed to manage the business cycle than the election-driven politicians on Capitol Hill. But in a world of low interest rates in which the Fed is frequently hamstrung, we may not have that choice."

No the sidelining of fiscal policy never made any sense. But that doesn't mean we should sideline monetary policy when fiscal policy isn't forthcoming.

Alt facts from Wolfers.

libezkova -> Peter K.... April 08, 2017 at 03:15 PM

"A new study suggests that near-zero interest rates - accompanied by a lackluster recovery - may become a common occurrence."

That's another way to spell "end of cheap oil"

[Apr 04, 2017] I am shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!

Notable quotes:
"... Casablanca, ..."
Apr 04, 2017 | www.businessinsider.com

Rick: How can you close me up? On what grounds?

Captain Renault: I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!

– From the classic scene in Casablanca, made in 1942

Casablanca

The latest scandal du jour seems to be about what is now called LIBORgate. But is it a scandal or is it really just business as usual?

And if we don't know which it is, what does that say about how we organize the financial world, in which $300-800 trillion, give or take, is based on LIBOR?

This is actually just the second verse of the old song about derivatives, which is a much larger market. Which of course is a problem that was not solved by Dodd-Frank and that has the potential to once again create true havoc with the markets, whereas LIBOR can only cost a few billion here and there. (Sarcasm intended.)

The problem is the lack of transparency. Why would banks want to reveal how much profit they are making? The last thing they want is transparency. This week I offer a different take on LIBOR, one which may annoy a few readers, but which I hope provokes some thinking about how we should organize our financial world.

There Is Gambling in the House? I Am Shocked...

Let's quickly look at what LIBOR is. The initials stand for London InterBank Offered Rate. It is the rate that is based on what 16 banks based in London (some are US banks) tell Thomson Reuters they expect to pay for overnight loans (and other longer loans). Thomson Reuters throws out the highest four numbers and the lowest four numbers and then gives us an average of the rest. Then that averaged number becomes about 150 other "rates," from overnight to one year and in different currencies. The key is that the number is not what the banks actually paid for loans, it's what they expect to pay. Also, please note that the British Banking Association, on its official website, calls this a price "fixing."

Most of the time the number is probably pretty close to real, or close enough for government work. But then, there are other times when it is at best a guess and at worst manipulated.

Back in the banking and credit crisis panic of 2008 the interbank market dried up. No bank was loaning other banks any money at any price. Thus there was clearly no way for the LIBOR number to be anything but fictitious. Anyone who was not aware of this was simply not paying attention.

The regulators certainly knew on both sides of the Atlantic. All along there were clear records, we now learn, that bankers were telling the FSA (the Financial Services Authority) that they had problems. Regulators were worried about what was happening but were pointing out that there was a large hole in the ship that was already admitting water, and they didn't want to make it any bigger. Timothy Geithner, then President of the New York Federal Reserve Bank (and now Secretary of the Treasury) wrote a rather pointed letter to the FSA, suggesting the need for better practices.

Some banks reported lower rates, to make it appear they were better off than they were (since no one was actually lending to them), and others might have given higher rates, for other reasons. Remember, this was a British Banking Association number. Whether you personally won or lost money on the probably wrong price information depends on whether you were lending or borrowing and whether you really wanted the entire market to appear worse than it already was.

This was the equivalent of an open-book test where you got to grade your own paper. And we are supposed to be shocked that there might have been a few bad "expectations" here and there by bankers acting in their own self-interest, with the knowledge of the regulators? The more amazing proposition would be that in a time of crisis the number had any close bearing on reality to begin with. Call me skeptical, but I fail to see how we should be surprised.

The larger question that really needs to be asked is how in the name of all that is holy did we get to a place where we base hundreds of trillions of dollars of transactions worldwide on a number whose provenance is not clearly transparent. Yes, I get that the methodology of the creation of the number after the banks call in their "expectations" is clear, but the process of getting to that number was evidently not well understood and looks to be even muddier than my rather cynical previous understanding of it.

It now seems that there will be a feeding frenzy as politicians and regulators hammer the various banks for improper practices. And they are pretty easy targets: there is just no way you can explain this that does not sound bad.

You're a big banker. The world is falling down before your eyes. No one trusts anyone. If you put out a bad number (whatever "bad" means in a time of sheer utter blind panic) the markets will kill you even more than they already are and you could lose your job. You have got to come up with a number in ten minutes.

"Hey, Nigel, what do you think we should tell Tommie [Thomson Reuters]?"

"I don't know, Winthorpe, maybe Mortimer has an idea; let's ask him."

Simply fining a few bankers is not going to fix the larger problem: the lack of transparency for arguably the most important number in financial markets. A very clear methodology needs to be developed, along with guidelines for what to do in times of crisis when the interbank market is frozen and there really is no number. Having no number might be worse than having a number that is a guess. But having a number that can be fudged by banks for their benefit is also clearly not in the public's interest.

The point of the rule of law is that it is supposed to level the playing field. But the rule of law means having a very transparent process with very clear rules and guidelines and penalties for breaking the rules.

I had dinner with Dr. Woody Brock this evening in Rockport. We were discussing this issue and he mentioned that he had done a study based on analysis by an institution that looks at all sorts of "fuzzy" data, like how easy it is to start a business in a country, corporate taxes and business structures, levels of free trade and free markets, and the legal system. It turned out that the trait that was most positively correlated with GDP growth was strength of the rule of law. It is also one of the major factors that Niall Ferguson cites in his book Civilization as a reason for the ascendency of the West in the last 500 years, and a factor that helps explain why China is rising again as it emerges from chaos.

One of the very real problems we face is the growing feeling that the system is rigged against regular people in favor of "the bankers" or the 1%. And if we are honest with ourselves, we have to admit there is reason for that feeling. Things like LIBOR are structured with a very real potential for manipulation. When the facts come out, there is just one more reason not to trust the system. And if there is no trust, there is no system.

Opacity and Credit Default Swaps

Which brings me to my next point. We just went through a crisis where derivatives were a major part of the problem, and specifically the counterparty risk of over-the counter (OTC) derivatives.

Taxpayers had to back-stop derivatives sold by banks (and specifically AIG ) that were clearly undercapitalized. That cost tens of billions. Yet the commissions and bonuses paid for selling those bad derivatives went on being paid. Congress held hearings and expressed outrage, but in the end Dodd-Frank sold out.

"Efforts to create an exchange-traded futures contract tied to credit-default swaps haven't yet gained traction after 18 months of talks, but banks dealing in the private multitrillion-dollar market for credit derivatives believe such contracts will eventually appear for a simple reason: They should attract new players.

"Credit-default swaps function like insurance for bonds and loans. Investors use them to hedge or speculate against changes in a borrower's creditworthiness. If a borrower defaults, sellers of the protection compensate buyers.

"The swaps – traded over the phone or on-screen, with prices known only to trading partners – are the domain of asset managers and hedge funds with the sophistication and financial wherewithal to take on complex risks.

"Futures, by contrast, are more routine instruments used by institutions and individual or "retail" investors. Futures prices are displayed publicly on exchanges, and customers can trade them directly with other customers – unlike in the swaps market, where a dealer is on one side of every trade.

"Dealers have long been fiercely protective of keeping the status quo in credit-default swaps or 'CDS' because they have booked fat profits from customers not being able to see where other customers are trading." (Market Watch)

And that is the issue. Bankers do not want transparency, because it will seriously cut into their profits. And while I like everyone to make a profit, the implicit partner in every trade is the taxpayer and, last time I looked, we do not get a piece of that trade. Derivatives traded on an exchange were not part of the problem during the last credit crisis; OTC derivatives were.

An exchange makes it very clear where the counterparty risk is and what the price mechanism is. It creates a transparent rule of law and places the risk on the backs of those buying and selling derivatives and not on the taxpayer. Exchange-traded derivatives do not pose a potential threat to the economies of the world, while we don't know the extent of the threat posed by OTC trades. JPMorgan has lost around $6 billion on the trading of their "London Whale." If Jamie Dimon and the JPM board couldn't guarantee reasonable corporate governance, then why should we assume that in another crisis we won't find another AIG?

Dodd-Frank needs to be repealed and replaced. The last time, the process was too clearly in the hands of those being regulated and has contributed to their profits. Enough already.

Credit default swaps and any other derivative large enough to put the system at risk must be moved to an exchange, to make clear the counterparty risks.

[Apr 04, 2017] The Production of Money

This FT -- the most deep neoliberal swamp among mainstream newspaper. So they do not like any critique of thier beloved neloneral world order with the dominance of reckless financial oligarchy as one of the key components.
Notable quotes:
"... She argues that under our deregulated financial system "commercial bankers can create credit . . . effectively without limit, and with few regulatory constraints." She says that because the government and central banks impose no restrictions on what credit is used for, banks increasingly lend for speculative activities, rather than "sound, productive investment". ..."
"... The collateral for this borrowing is in the form of "promises to pay", which can "evaporate" and be defaulted upon - which risks dragging down the rest of the system. ..."
"... many of the remedies Pettifor recommends are, as she acknowledges, fairly mainstream: monitoring the evolution of credit relative to national income, limiting loan-to-value mortgage ratios more strictly, imposing stronger regulation on banks and issuing government debt at low interest rates across the maturity spectrum. ..."
"... Less mainstream are her calls for controls on international capital flows through a Tobin tax on financial transactions, and for central banks to "manage exchange rates over a specified range by buying and selling currency". ..."
"... its confrontational style - criticising financial market players, most economists, politicians and ideas from other left-leaning economists ..."
Apr 04, 2017 | economistsview.typepad.com
Peter K. , April 03, 2017 at 01:38 PM
https://www.ft.com/content/40b5b516-152c-11e7-b0c1-37e417ee6c76

'The Production of Money', by Ann Pettifor - a financial education

16 HOURS AGO by: Review by Gemma Tetlow

Ann Pettifor's The Production of Money, is a work in three parts. It provides an explanation of how money and credit are created in modern economies and of some of the problems that helped foment the financial crisis. The author, an economist, then sets out her views on how these problems should be fixed, including introducing controls on international capital flows. Finally, and less obviously from the title, the book strays into a critique of fiscal austerity.

"Citizens," Pettifor argues, "were unprepared for the [financial] crisis, and remain on the whole ignorant of the workings of the financial system." This is one reason why policymakers have failed to address its failings. One of her objectives is to "simplify key concepts in relation to money, finance and economics, and to make them accessible to a much wider audience".

Chapter two provides a clear, intuitive explanation of how money is created and how this can facilitate economic growth. Money creation is a complex and intangible concept in a world where it is no longer backed by gold bars held by the central bank, and Pettifor provides the most accessible and thorough explanation I have seen.

In the rest of the book, the author sets out her diagnosis of the problems afflicting the world's monetary system and her prescription for how they should be fixed. She argues that under our deregulated financial system "commercial bankers can create credit . . . effectively without limit, and with few regulatory constraints." She says that because the government and central banks impose no restrictions on what credit is used for, banks increasingly lend for speculative activities, rather than "sound, productive investment".

The collateral for this borrowing is in the form of "promises to pay", which can "evaporate" and be defaulted upon - which risks dragging down the rest of the system.

The description is informative as far as it goes. However, it does not provide the sort of compelling, insightful account of the problems before the crisis that is provided by, for example, Michael Lewis in The Big Short.

She strikes a revolutionary tone when setting out the problem. But many of the remedies Pettifor recommends are, as she acknowledges, fairly mainstream: monitoring the evolution of credit relative to national income, limiting loan-to-value mortgage ratios more strictly, imposing stronger regulation on banks and issuing government debt at low interest rates across the maturity spectrum.

Less mainstream are her calls for controls on international capital flows through a Tobin tax on financial transactions, and for central banks to "manage exchange rates over a specified range by buying and selling currency".

Her support for these measures is consistent with her belief - expressed throughout the book - that everything was well until the global financial system began to liberalise following the breakdown of the Bretton Woods system in 1971.

The evidence she provides to support her belief that policies in place during the Bretton Woods era were superior to those operating now appears rather selective. She cites data presented in Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff's book, This Time is Different, as evidence that "financial crises proliferated" after the 1970s. However, Reinhart and Rogoff's thesis was that we have been here before in centuries past - and will be again.

The Production of Money presents one view of issues afflicting the world's financial systems and how they should be dealt with, and will be useful to readers unfamiliar with these issues. But in other places it provides a partial or rather confusing descriptions of aspects of the monetary system. Saying the global economy "is once again at risk of slipping into recession" and faces "deflation" are statements that have aged badly.

This book will help the public "develop a much greater understanding" of how banking and financial systems work. However, its confrontational style - criticising financial market players, most economists, politicians and ideas from other left-leaning economists - may put some readers off before they get to the meat of the argument. The characterisations of these groups' views are selective and her criticisms are at times not well supported by the evidence she presents.

[Mar 23, 2017] The Credit Theory of Money

Mar 23, 2017 | economistsview.typepad.com
tjfxh :

Reply Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 04:15 PM , March 21, 2017 at 04:15 PM
David Graeber, Debt: The First 5000 Years. Melville House; Updated Expanded edition (2014).

Michael Hudson and Marc Van De Mieroop, Debt and Economic Renewal in the Ancient Near East. Capital Decisions Ltd (2002).

Geoffrey Ingham, The Nature of Money. Polity (2004).

A. Mitchell Innes, "The Credit Theory of Money," The Banking Law Journal, Vol. 31 (1914), Dec./Jan., 151-168.

_____________, "What is Money?," The Banking Law Journal, Vol. 30 (1913), May. 377-409

L. Randall Wray, Theories of Money and Banking. Edward Elgar (2012)

______________, Understanding Modern Money:The Key to Full Employment and Price Stability. Edward Elgar (1998)

anne -> tjfxh ... , March 21, 2017 at 04:34 PM
https://www.community-exchange.org/docs/The%20Credit%20Theoriy%20of%20Money.htm

1914

The Credit Theory of Money
By A. Mitchell Innes

https://www.community-exchange.org/docs/what%20is%20money.htm

1913

What Is Money?
By A. MITCHELL INNES

[ I do appreciate these references. ]

[Mar 22, 2017] Economist's View How Money Made Us Modern

Mar 22, 2017 | economistsview.typepad.com
How Money Made Us Modern Patrick Kiger at National Geographic:
How Money Made Us Modern : About 9,500 years ago in the Mesopotamian region of Sumer, ancient accountants kept track of farmers' crops and livestock by stacking small pieces of baked clay, almost like the tokens used in board games today. One piece might signify a bushel of grain, while another with a different shape might represent a farm animal or a jar of olive oil.
Those humble little ceramic shapes might not seem have much in common with today's $100 bill, whose high-tech anti-counterfeiting features include a special security thread designed to turn pink when illuminated by ultraviolet light, let alone with credit-card swipes and online transactions that for many Americans are rapidly taking the place of cash.
But the roots of those modern modes of payment may lie in the Sumerians' tokens. ...

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Comments Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post. Shah of Bratpuhr : , March 21, 2017 at 11:08 AM

Article ended with Bitcoin... otherwise, great story.
Shah of Bratpuhr -> Shah of Bratpuhr... , March 21, 2017 at 11:09 AM
Bitcoin is quite volatile vs USD.

https://btcvol.info/

tjfxh : , March 21, 2017 at 12:34 PM
The article is poorly researched. The author needs to read Innes, Graeber, Ingham, Wray and Hudson on the history of money from the perspective of credit instead of relying on Davies, who emphasizes commodity money and doesn't distinguish between bullion and chartal.
kthomas -> tjfxh ... , March 21, 2017 at 01:03 PM
....coffee. Was there nothing you agreed with?
tjfxh : , March 21, 2017 at 02:09 PM
I was speaking specifically of the early history in my comment, but the entire article was rather one-sided. The debated on the history and nature of money is nuanced and the author made it seem as through the article presents a definitive version. The audience to which it is addressed would not glean that from the article and would likely come away with a one-sided and simplistic perspective on the history and nature of money.
anne -> tjfxh ... , March 21, 2017 at 02:32 PM
Do set down any specific references when possible.
JohnH : , March 21, 2017 at 02:32 PM
Michael Hudson offers a wonderful piece on the ancient middle east, how they handled oppressive debt, and how, in the Anglo-Saxon word, the biblical word for debt got translated into 'sin.'

"From the actual people who study cuneiform records, 90% of which are economic, what we have surviving from Sumer and Babylonia, from about 2500 BC to the time of Jesus, are mainly marriage contracts, dowries, legal contracts, economic contracts, and loan contracts. Above all, loans....

The rulers had what we would call an economic model. They realized that every economy tended to become unstable as a result of compound interest. We have the training tablets that they trained scribal students with, around 1800 or 1900 BC. They had to calculate: How long does it take debt to double its size, at what we'd call 20% interest? The answer is 5 years. How does long it take to multiply four-fold? The answer is 10 years. How much to multiply 64 times? The answer is 30 years. Well you can imagine how fast the debts grew.

So they knew how the tendency of every society was that people would run up debts. Now when they ran up debts in Sumer and Babylonia, and even in in Judea in Jesus' time, they didn't borrow money from money lenders. People owed debts because they were in arrears: They couldn't pay the fees owed to the palace. We might call them taxes, but they actually were fees for public services. And for beer, for instance. The palace would supply beer and you would run up a tab over the year, to be paid at harvest time on the threshing floor. You also would pay for the boatmen, if you needed to get your harvest delivered by boat. You would pay for draught cattle if you needed them. You'd pay for water. Cornelia Wunsch did one study and found that 75% of the debts, even in neo-Babylonian times around the 5th or 4th century BC, were arrears.

Sometimes the harvest failed. And when the harvest failed, obviously they couldn't pay their fees and other debts. Hammurabi canceled debts four or five times during his reign. He did this because either the harvest failed or there was a war and people couldn't pay.

What do you do if you're a ruler and people can't pay? One reason they would cancel debts is that most debts were owed to the palace or to the temples, which were under the control of the palace. So you're canceling debts that are owed to yourself.

Rulers had a good reason for doing this. If they didn't cancel the debts, then people who owed money would become bondservants to the tax collector or the wealthy creditors, or whoever they owed money to. If they were bondservants, they couldn't serve in the army. They couldn't provide the corvée labor duties – the kind of tax that people had to pay in the form of labor. Or they would defect. If you wanted to win a war you had to have a citizenry that had its own land, its own means of support."
http://michael-hudson.com/2017/01/the-land-belongs-to-god/

pgl -> JohnH... , March 21, 2017 at 03:26 PM
"The focus of my talk today will be Jesus' first sermon and the long background behind it that helps explain what he was talking about and what he sought to bring about."

Glad you are researching the ancient history of monetary regimes. Especially since your research into monetary history over the past 150 years is so incredibly wrong.

tjfxh : , March 21, 2017 at 04:15 PM
David Graeber, Debt: The First 5000 Years. Melville House; Updated Expanded edition (2014).

Michael Hudson and Marc Van De Mieroop, Debt and Economic Renewal in the Ancient Near East. Capital Decisions Ltd (2002).

Geoffrey Ingham, The Nature of Money. Polity (2004).

A. Mitchell Innes, "The Credit Theory of Money," The Banking Law Journal, Vol. 31 (1914), Dec./Jan., 151-168.

_____________, "What is Money?," The Banking Law Journal, Vol. 30 (1913), May. 377-409

L. Randall Wray, Theories of Money and Banking. Edward Elgar (2012)

______________, Understanding Modern Money:The Key to Full Employment and Price Stability. Edward Elgar (1998)

anne -> tjfxh ... , March 21, 2017 at 04:34 PM
https://www.community-exchange.org/docs/The%20Credit%20Theoriy%20of%20Money.htm

1914

The Credit Theory of Money
By A. Mitchell Innes

https://www.community-exchange.org/docs/what%20is%20money.htm

1913

What Is Money?
By A. MITCHELL INNES

[ I do appreciate these references. ]

[Feb 19, 2017] Privilege: still exorbitant. An analysis of the international role of the dollar.

Notable quotes:
"... Privilege: still exorbitant. Here's a nice analysis of the international role of the dollar. This is the same argument I tried to make in my Roosevelt Institute piece on trade policy last summer. The Economist* says it better: ..."
"... "Unlike other aspects of American hegemony, the dollar has grown more important as the world has globalised, not less. As economies opened their capital markets in the 1980s and 1990s, global capital flows surged. Yet most governments sought exchange-rate stability amid the sloshing tides of money. They managed their exchange rates using massive piles of foreign-exchange reserves Global reserves have grown from under $1trn in the 1980s to more than $10trn today. ..."
"... Dollar-denominated assets account for much of those reserves. Governments worry more about big swings in the dollar than in other currencies; trade is often conducted in dollar terms; and firms and governments owe roughly $10trn in dollar-denominated debt. the dollar is, on some measures, more central to the global system now than it was immediately after the second world war. ..."
"... America wields enormous financial power as a result. It can wreak havoc by withholding supplies of dollars in a crisis. When the Federal Reserve tweaks monetary policy, the effects ripple across the global economy. Hélène Rey of the London Business School argues that, despite their reserve holdings, many economies have lost full control over their domestic monetary policy, because of the effect of Fed policy on global appetite for risk. ..."
"... America's return on its foreign assets is markedly higher than the return foreign investors earn on their American assets That flow of investment income allows America to run persistent current-account deficits -- to buy more than it produces year after year, decade after decade." ..."
Feb 19, 2017 | economistsview.typepad.com
Peter K. : February 18, 2017 at 06:50 AM
J.W. Mason has some interesting links at his blog:

http://jwmason.org/slackwire/links-and-thoughts-for-feb-17/

Privilege: still exorbitant. Here's a nice analysis of the international role of the dollar. This is the same argument I tried to make in my Roosevelt Institute piece on trade policy last summer. The Economist* says it better:

"Unlike other aspects of American hegemony, the dollar has grown more important as the world has globalised, not less. As economies opened their capital markets in the 1980s and 1990s, global capital flows surged. Yet most governments sought exchange-rate stability amid the sloshing tides of money. They managed their exchange rates using massive piles of foreign-exchange reserves Global reserves have grown from under $1trn in the 1980s to more than $10trn today.

Dollar-denominated assets account for much of those reserves. Governments worry more about big swings in the dollar than in other currencies; trade is often conducted in dollar terms; and firms and governments owe roughly $10trn in dollar-denominated debt. the dollar is, on some measures, more central to the global system now than it was immediately after the second world war.

America wields enormous financial power as a result. It can wreak havoc by withholding supplies of dollars in a crisis. When the Federal Reserve tweaks monetary policy, the effects ripple across the global economy. Hélène Rey of the London Business School argues that, despite their reserve holdings, many economies have lost full control over their domestic monetary policy, because of the effect of Fed policy on global appetite for risk.

During the heyday of Bretton Woods, Valéry Giscard d'Estaing, a French finance minister (later president), complained about the "exorbitant privilege" enjoyed by the issuer of the world's reserve currency. America's return on its foreign assets is markedly higher than the return foreign investors earn on their American assets That flow of investment income allows America to run persistent current-account deficits -- to buy more than it produces year after year, decade after decade."

Exactly right. You can have free capital mobility, or you can have a balanced trade for the US. But you can't have both, as long as the world depends on dollar reserves."

Darryl noted Keynes's Bancor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bancor

[Jan 23, 2017] re F@ck Work naked capitalism

Jan 23, 2017 | www.nakedcapitalism.com
By Scott Ferguson, Assistant Professor, University of South Florida. He is also a Research Scholar at the Binzagr Institute for Sustainable Prosperity. His current research and pedagogy focus on Modern Monetary Theory and critiques of neoliberalism, aesthetic theory; the history of digital animation and visual effects; and essayistic writing across media platforms. Originally published at Arcade

James Livingston has responded to my critique of his Aeon essay, " Fuck Work ." His response was published in the Spanish magazine Contexto y Accion . One can find an English translation here . What follows is my reply:

... ... ...

This brings me to Modern Monetary Theory (MMT). Far from an "obscure intellectual trend," MMT is a prominent heterodox school of political economy that emerged from post-Keynesian economics and has lately influenced the economic platforms of Bernie Sanders , Jeremy Corbyn , and Spain's United Left . For MMT, money is not a private token that states amass and hemorrhage. Rather, it is a boundless government instrument that can easily serve the needs of the entire community. International monetary agreements such the Eurozone's Maastricht Treaty may impose artificial limits on fiscal spending, but these are, MMT argues, political constraints. They are not economically inevitable and can immediately be dissolved. In truth, every sovereign polity can afford to take care of its people; most governments simply choose not to provide for everyone and feign that their hands are tied.

To be sure, Liberalism has debated the "designation and distribution of rival goods," as Livingston explains. In doing so, however, it has overlooked how macroeconomic governance conditions the production of these goods in the first place. MMT, by contrast, stresses money's creative role in enabling productive activity and places government's limitless spending powers at the heart of this process.

In lieu of Liberal "redistribution" via taxation, MMT calls for a politics of " predistribution ." Redistributive politics mitigate wealth disparity by purportedly transferring money from rich to poor. This is a false and deeply metaphysical gesture, however, since it mistakes the monetary relation for a finite resource instead of embracing government's actual spending capacities. MMT's predistributive politics, meanwhile, insist that government can never run out of money and that meaningful transformation requires intervening directly in the institutions and laws that structure economic activity. MMT does not imply a crude determinism in which government immediately commands production and distribution. Rather, it politicizes fiscal spending and the banking system, which together underwrite the supposedly autonomous civil society that Livingston celebrates.

MMT maintains, moreover, that because UBI is not sufficiently productive, it is a passive and ultimately inflationary means to remedy our social and environmental problems. It thus recommends a proactive and politicized commitment to public employment through a voluntary Job Guarantee . Federally funded yet operated by local governments and nonprofits , such a system would fund communal and ecological projects that the private sector refuses to pursue. It would stabilize prices by maintaining aggregate purchasing power and productive activity during market downturns. What is more, by eliminating forced unemployment, it would eradicate systemic poverty, increase labor's bargaining power, and improve everyone's working conditions. In this way, a Job Guarantee would function as a form of targeted universalism : In improving the lives of particular groups, such a program would transform the whole of economic life from the bottom up.

Unlike the Job Guarantee, UBI carries no obligation to create or maintain public infrastructures. It relinquishes capital-intensive projects to the private sector. It banks on the hope that meager increases in purchasing power will solve the systemic crises associated with un- and underemployment.

Let us, then, abandon UBI's "end of work" hysteria and confront the problem of social provisioning head on. There is no escape from our broken reality. We do better to seize present power structures and transform collective participation, rather than to reduce politics to cartoonish oppositions between liberty and tyranny, leisure and toil. Technology is marvelous. It is no substitute, however, for governance. And while civil society may be a site of creativity and struggle, it has limited spending abilities and will always require external support.

It is essential, therefore, to construct an adequate welfare system. On this matter, Livingston and I agree. But Livingston's retreat from governance strikes me as both juvenile and self-sabotaging. Such thinking distracts the left from advancing an effective political program and building the robust public sector we need.

Carlos , January 23, 2017 at 2:31 am

I really need to be kicked out of the house, to go someplace and do something I don't really want to do for 8 hours a day.

I've already got too much time to fritter away. I'm fairly certain, giving me more time and money to make my own choices would not make the world a better place.

Dogstar , January 23, 2017 at 7:44 am

Hmm. No "sarc" tag Really?? More free time and money wouldn't be a benefit to you and your surroundings? That's hard to believe. To each their own I guess.

MtnLife , January 23, 2017 at 8:39 am

I can see it both ways. Most people see that as sarcasm but I have more than a few friends whose jobs are probably the only thing keeping them out of jail. Idle hands being the devil's plaything and all. For instance, the last thing you want to give a recovering addict is a lot of free time and money.

Jonathan Holland Becnel , January 23, 2017 at 11:51 am

As a recovering addict, I must vehemently disagree with ur statement.

I would love to have as much money and free time on my hands to work on the fun hobbies that keep me sober like Political Activism, Blogging, Film, etc.

Marco , January 23, 2017 at 1:22 pm

Many MANY folks take drugs and alcohol specially BECAUSE of their jobs

JohnnyGL , January 23, 2017 at 10:46 am

At no point in the "Job Guarantee" discussion did anyone advocate forcing you to go to work. However, if you decide to get ambitious and want a paid activity to do that helps make society a better place to live, wouldn't it be nice to know that there'd be work available for you to do?

Right now, that's not so easy to do without lots of effort searching for available jobs and going through a cumbersome and dispiriting application process that's designed to make you prove how much you REALLY, REALLY want the job.

For me, the real silver bullet is the moral/political argument of a Job Guarantee vs. Basic Income. Job Guarantee gives people a sense of pride and accomplishment and those employed and their loved ones will vigorously defend it against those who would attack them as 'moochers'. Also, defenders can point to the completed projects as added ammunition.

Basic income recipients have no such moral/political defense.

jrs , January 23, 2017 at 1:04 pm

The guaranteed jobs could be for a 20 or 30 hour week. I fear they won't be as most job guarantee advocates seem to be Calvinists who believe only work gets you into heaven though.

skippy , January 23, 2017 at 1:50 pm

Totally flippant and backhanded comment jrs, might help to substantiate your perspective with more than emotive slurs.

disheveled . Gezz Calvinists – ????? – how about thousands of years of Anthro or Psychology vs insinuations about AET or Neoclassical

jrs , January 23, 2017 at 1:01 pm

Don't forget commute another 2 hours because you can't afford anything close by!

Ruben , January 23, 2017 at 3:27 am

OMG, where to begin:

"MMT, by contrast, stresses money's creative role in enabling productive activity and places government's limitless spending powers at the heart of this process."

" [money] is a boundless government instrument "

Limitless spending power is identical to infinite spending powers. If this is a central tenet of MMT, the whole conceptual construct can easily be disproved by reductio ad absurdum.

"And while civil society may be a site of creativity and struggle, it has limited spending abilities and will always require external support."

Sure, the support of Nature, but I guess the author is referring to Big Brother, the all-knowing and benevolent government, source and creator of all money, indispensable provider of jobs, jobs, jobs.

Before there was nothing, then came the Government and the Government said: let there be money.

Hard to take it seriously.

Furzy , January 23, 2017 at 4:19 am

I would like to see you do that via "reductio ad absurdum" because I find you absolutely clueless regarding MMT's propositions. Maybe you just like to spout off?

tony , January 23, 2017 at 6:06 am

It's a common 'argument' by people defending status quo. They claim something is ridiculous and easily disproven and then leave it at that. They avoid making argument that are specific enought to be countered, because thay know they don't actually have a leg to stand on.

fresno dan , January 23, 2017 at 8:37 am

Furzy
January 23, 2017 at 4:19 am

http://www.pragcap.com/modern-monetary-theory-mmt-critique/

skippy , January 23, 2017 at 4:55 am

So where are your – laws – from Ruben . ??????

UserFriendly , January 23, 2017 at 6:57 am

Limitless may not have been the best word. Of course the government can print money till the cows come home; but MMT recommends stopping when you approach the real resource constraint.

skippy , January 23, 2017 at 7:39 am

Taxes to mop up . but that's theft in some ideological camps .

disheveled must have printing presses down in the basement .

Ruben , January 23, 2017 at 7:58 am

Sloppy language does not help so thank you. So the next question is how do constraints (natural or other) affect spending power under MMT, is it asymptotic, is there an optimum, discontinuities?

The other major issue is that although spending power is controlled by legislatures it must be recognized that wealth creation starts with the work of people and physical capital, not by the good graces of gov't. MMT makes it sound as if money exists just because gov't wills it to exist, which is true in the sense of printing pieces of paper but not in the sense of actual economic production and wealth creation. Taxes are not the manner in which gov't removes money but it really is the cost of gov't sitting on top of the economic production by people together with physical capital.

Jamie , January 23, 2017 at 9:55 am

Help me understand your last sentence. So, if I'm a farmer, the time I spend digging the field is economic production, but the time I spend sitting at my desk planing what to plant and deciding which stump to remove next and how best to do it, and the time I spend making deals with the bank etc, these are all unproductive hours that make no contribution to my economic production?

susan the other , January 23, 2017 at 1:48 pm

Yes, Jamie. And as you point out, Ferguson is giving us a better definition of "productive". He is not saying productivity produces profits – he is saying productive work fixes things and makes them better. But some people never get past that road bump called "productivity."

JohnnyGL , January 23, 2017 at 11:16 am

"MMT makes it sound as if money exists just because gov't wills it to exist "

No, this is inaccurate, MMT says that the government must SPEND money into existence, not just issue a legal fiat. Collecting taxes in the currency creates a need for the currency. This is historically accurate and can be traced from British colonial history. They imposed taxes on the colonies in pound sterling, that compelled the colonies to find something to export to Britain in order to generate the foreign exchange to pay the taxes.

The debate is over how to get the currency in people's hands. Should the govt just cut checks and let citizens spend as they see fit? Or should the government directly employ resources to improve society where the private sector isn't interested?

Regarding user Jamie's point, I hope I can add to it by saying that someone is going to do the planning, whether it's the public sector or the private sector, planning must be done. When government does the planning, then it's decided democratically (at least in theory). If the government doesn't do the planning, then the private sector is left to do it on its own. This gets chaotic if the private sector doesn't coordinate, or can get parasitic if the private sector colludes against public interest.

Jamie , January 23, 2017 at 10:05 am

I don't think there's anything wrong with calling money a "boundless government instrument". The problem here comes from confounding a potentially infinite resource (money) with the inherently limited application of that resource. Sovereign money really is limitless, what one can do with it is not. The distinction needs to be clarified and emphasized, not glossed over.

Jim Haygood , January 23, 2017 at 12:11 pm

" money is a boundless government instrument "

Restated: " Trees grow to the sky and beyond. "

During expansions, the economy is always operating at the real resource constraint. Attempts to goose it with MMT can only destabilize it.

Mel , January 23, 2017 at 12:46 pm

"Limitless" is a pretty good word for some arguments. Look what you get with "limited": every year congress up and says, "Hey dudes, dudettes, we know you expected some governing from us, but we've decided not to do that, because we've decided that the money we've spent has taken us past the Debt Limit. So we're gonna stop now." They're jerking you around. The rules of fiat money that they're using don't work that way. In fact, Richard Nixon took the U.S. into a full fiat money system so he could keep governing without having to worry about running out of money to do it with.

PKMKII , January 23, 2017 at 9:18 am

International monetary agreements such the Eurozone's Maastricht Treaty may impose artificial limits on fiscal spending, but these are, MMT argues, political constraints. They are not economically inevitable and can immediately be dissolved.

So no, not limitless. Rather, the limitations are political ones, not economic. As long as the sovereignty of the currency is not in threat, the money supply can be increased.

vlade , January 23, 2017 at 5:28 am

The author is making some assumptions, and then goes and takes them apart. It's possilble (I didn't read the article he refers to), that the assumptions he responds to directly are made by the article, but that doesn't make them universal assumptions about UBI.

UBI is not a single exact prescription – and in the same way, JG is not a single exact prescription. The devil, in both cases, is in details. In fact, there is not reason why JG and UBI should be mutually exclusive as a number of people are trying to tell us.

and if we talk about governance – well, the super-strong governance that JG requires to function properly is my reason why I'd prefer a strong UBI to most JG.

Now and then we get a failed UBI example study – I'm not going to look at that. But the socialist regimes of late 20th century are a prime example of failed JG. Unlike most visitor or writers here, I had the "privilege" to experience them first hand, and thanks but no thanks. Under the socialist regimes you had to have a job (IIRC, the consitutions stated you had "duty" to work). But that become an instrument of control. What job you could have was pretty tightly controlled. Or, even worse, you could be refused any job, which pretty much automatically sent you to prison as "not working parasite".

I don't expect that most people who support JG have anything even remotely similar in mind, but the governance problems still stay. That is, who decides what jobs should be created? Who decides who should get what job, especially if not all jobs are equal (and I don't mean just equal pay)? Can you be firedt from your JG job if you go there just to collect your salary? (The joke in the socialist block was "the government pretends to pay us, we pretend to work"). Etc. etc.

All of the above would have to be decided by people, and if we should know something, then we should know that any system run by people will be, sooner or later, corrupted. The more complex it is, the easier it is to corrupt it.

Which is why I support (meaningfull, meaning you can actually live on it, not just barely survive) Basic Income over JG. The question for me is more whether we can actually afford a meaningful one, because getting a "bare survival one" does more damage than good.

PKMKII , January 23, 2017 at 9:27 am

That's why any JG would have to be filtered through local governments or, more ideally, non-profit community organizations, and not a centralized government. New York City's Summer Youth Employment Program offers a good model for this. Block grants of money are delivered to a wide range of community organizations, thus ensuring no one group has a monopoly, and then individual businesses, other community groups, schools, non-profits, etc., apply to the community organizations for an "employee" who works for them, but the payment actually comes from the block grant. The government serves as the deliverer of funds, and provides regulatory oversight to make sure no abuses are taking place, but does not pick and choose the jobs/employers themselves.

Praedor , January 23, 2017 at 5:42 am

I don't see it as either/or. Provide a UBI and a job guarantee. The job would pay over and above the UBI bit, if for some reason, you don't want to work or cannot, you still have your Universal BASIC Income as the floor through which you cannot fall.

Private employers will have to offer better conditions and pay to convince people getting UBI to work for them. They wouldn't be able to mistreat workers because they could simply bolt because they will not fall into poverty if they quit. The dirtbags needing workers won't be able to overpay themselves at the expense of workers because they feel completely free to leave if you are a self worshipping douche.

Dblwmy , January 23, 2017 at 11:03 am

It seems that over time the "floor through which you cannot fall" becomes just that, the floor, as the effect of a UBI becomes the universal value, well floor.

jerry , January 23, 2017 at 11:12 am

Was going to be my response as well, why such absolute yes or no thinking? The benefit of the UBI is that is recognizes that we have been increasing productivity for oh the last couple millenia for a REASON! To have more leisure time! Giving everyone the opportunity to work more and slave away isn't much of a consolation. We basically have a jobs guarantee/floor right now, its called McDonalds, and no one wants it.

Labor needs a TON of leverage, to get us back to a reasonable Scandinavian/Aussie standard of living. Much more time off, much better benefits, higher wages in general. UBI provides this, it says screw you employers unless you are willing to offer reasonable conditions we are going to stay home.

Anti-Schmoo , January 23, 2017 at 6:02 am

Why the Job Guarantee versus Universal Basic Income is not about work, BUT ABOUT GOVERNANCE!
Yep, agree 100%.
We live in a capitalist society which is dependent on a (wage) slave population.
UBI? Are you mad?
I for one am mad, give me UBI!
Time to end the insanity of U.S. capitalism

Mrs Smith , January 23, 2017 at 6:08 am

I'm curious to know if either of these systems work if there is no guarantee of "free" access to healthcare through single-payer or a national insurance? I'm only marginally informed about UBI or MMT, and haven't found adequate information regarding either as to how healthcare is addressed. It seems clear that neither could work in the US, specifically for the reason that any UBI would have to be high enough to pay insane insurance premiums, and cover catastrophic illnesses without pushing someone into bankruptcy.

Can anyone clarify, or point me in the direction of useful information on this?

financial matters , January 23, 2017 at 6:35 am

I think they're basically separate issues although MMT provides a way of thinking that federal single payer is possible.

MMT is basically anti-austerity and in favor of 'smart' deficits ie not deficits for no reason but deficits that can improve the economy and the overall social structure such as single payer, affordable education, job guarantee program.

Stephanie Kelton has commented that MMT has no real problem with a UBI if it is done in conjunction with a good job guarantee program. She is well aware of the dangers of a UBI if it eliminates most other social programs.

I think that a job guarantee at a living wage would provide a much better standard for private employment than a UBI which could just work as a supplement allowing private industry to pay lower wages. As a supplement to a job guarantee a UBI could help address issues such as payment for reproductive type work.

UserFriendly , January 23, 2017 at 7:02 am

There are different flavors of UBI, most don't mention healthcare at all. Milton Friedman's UBI flavor prefers that it replace all government spending on social welfare to reduce the government's overall burden. MMT says there is no sense in not having single payer.

Stephanie , January 23, 2017 at 7:06 am

My thought on the last thread of this nature is that if UBI were ever enacted in the U.S., healthcare access would become restricted to those with jobs (and the self-employeed with enough spare income to pay for it). You don't have to be healthy to collect a subsistence payment from to the government.

HotFlash , January 23, 2017 at 11:18 am

Here in Canada we have universal healthcare, as well as a basic income guarantee for low income families with children and seniors. There is a movement to extend that as well, details of one plan here .

In theory, I think it could be possible for the JG to build and staff hospitals and clinics on a non-profit basis or at least price-controlled basis, if so directed (*huge* question, of course - by what agency? govt? local councils?). Ditto housing, schools, infrastructure, all kinds of socially useful and pleasant stuff. However, the way the US tends to do things, I would expect instead that a BIG or a JG would, as others have pointed out, simply enable employers to pay less, and furthermore, subsidize the consumption of overpriced goods and services. IOW, a repeat of the ACA, just a pump to get more $$ to the top.

The problem is not the money, but that the Americans govern themselves so poorly. No idea what the cure could be for that.

Praedor , January 23, 2017 at 12:28 pm

Fixing worker pay is actually VERY easy. It's purely a political issue. You tie corporate taxes to worker compensation. More specifically, you set the maximum compensation for CEOs at NO MORE than (say) 50x average worker pay in their corporation (INCLUDING temps AND off-shored workers IN US DOLLARS no passing the buck to Temp Agencies or claiming that $10/day in hellhole country x is equivalent to $50k in the US. NO, it is $10/day or $3650/yr, period). At 50x, corporate taxation is at the minimum (say something like 17%). The corporation is free to pay their top exec more than 50x but doing so will increase the corporate tax to 25%. You could make it step-wise: 51-60x average worker pay = 25% corporate tax, 61-80x = 33% corporate tax, etc.

It is time to recognize that CEO pay is NOT natural or earned at stratospheric levels. THE best economic times in the US were between the 50s to early 70s when top tax rates were much higher AND the average CEO took home maybe 30x their average worker pay. We CAN go back to something like that with policy. Also, REQUIRE that labor have reps on the Board of Directors, change the rules of incorporation so it is NOT mainly focused on "maximizing profit or shareholder value". It must include returning a social good to the local communities within which corporations reside. Profits and maximizing shareholder value must be last (after also minimizing social/environmental harm). Violate the rules and you lose your corporate charter.

There is no right to be a corporation. Incorporation is a privilege that is extended by government. The Founders barred any corporate interference in politics, and if a corporation broke the law, it lost its charter and the corporate officers were directly held responsible for THEIR actions. Corporations don't do anything, people in charge of corporations make the decisions and carry out the actions so NO MORE LLCs. If you kill people due to lax environmental protections or worker safety, etc, then the corporate officers are DIRECTLY and personally responsible for it. THEY made it happen, not some ethereal "corporation".

BeliTsari , January 23, 2017 at 6:32 am

Durned hippys imagine an IRON boot stamping on a once human face – forever. OK, now everybody back to the BIG house. Massa wanna reed yew sum Bible verses. We're going to be slaves to the machines, ya big silly!

PlutoniumKun , January 23, 2017 at 7:09 am

I'm sceptical whether a guaranteed job policy would actually work in reality. There are plenty of historical precedents – for example, during the Irish potato famine because of an ideological resistence to providing direct aid, there were many 'make work' schemes. You can still see the results all along the west coast of Ireland – little harbours that nobody has ever used, massive drainage schemes for tiny amounts of land, roads to nowhere. It certainly helped many families survive, but it also meant that those incapacitated by starvation died as they couldn't work. It was no panacea.

There are numerous practical issues with make work schemes. Do you create a sort of 2-layer public service – with one level permanent jobs, the other a variety of 'temporary' jobs according to need? And if so, how do you deal with issues like:

1. The person on a make work scheme who doesn't bother turning up till 11 am and goes home at 2.

2. Regional imbalances where propering region 1 is desperately short of workers while neighbouring region 2 has thousands of surplus people sweeping streets and planting trees.

3. What effect will this have on business and artistic innovation? Countries with strong welfare systems such as Sweden also tend to have a very high number of start ups because people can quit their jobs and devote themselves to a couple of years to develop that business idea they always had, or to start a band, or try to make a name as a painter.

4. How do you manage the transition from 'make-work' to permanent jobs when the economy is on the up, but people decide they prefer working in their local area sweeping the street?

I can see just as many practical problems with a job guarantee as with universal income. Neither solution is perfect – in reality, some sort of mix would be the only way I think it could be done effectively.

Torsten , January 23, 2017 at 7:33 am

Yes. Not either/or but both/and.

To provide some context for passers-by, this seemingly too-heated debate is occurring in the context of the upcoming Podemos policy meeting in Spain, Feb 10-12.. Podemos seems to have been unaware of MMT, and has subscribed to sovereign-economy-as-household policies. Ferguson, along with elements of the modern left, has been trying to win Podemos over to MMT-based policies like a Jobs Guarantee rather than the Basic Income scheme they have heretofore adopted rather uncritically.

(Of course Spain is far from "sovereign", but that's another matter :-(

aj , January 23, 2017 at 7:48 am

1) Fire them
2) Prospering region 1 isn't "short on workers" they just all have private jobs.
3) What a good argument to also have single payer healthcare and some sort of BIG as well as the JG
4) private companies must offer a better compensation package. One of the benefits of the JG is that it essentially sets the minimum wage.

Murph , January 23, 2017 at 9:08 am

Yeah, those are pretty good answers right off the bat. (Obviously I guess for #1 they can reapply in six months or something.)

Plutonium- I feel like true progress is trading shitty problems for less shitty ones. I can't see any of the major proponents like Kelton, Wray or Mitchell ever suggesting that the JG won't come with it's own new sets of challenges. On the overly optimistic side though: you could look at that as just necessitating more meaningful JG jobs addressing those issues.

aj , January 23, 2017 at 11:17 am

I was writing that on my phone this morning. Didn't have time to go into great detail. Still, I wanted to point out that just because there will be additional complexities with a JG, doesn't mean there aren't reasonable answers.

PlutoniumKun , January 23, 2017 at 10:42 am

1. If you fire them its not a jobs guarantee. Many people have psychological/social issues which make them unsuitable for regular hours jobs. If you don't have a universal basic income, and you don't have an absolute jobs guarantee, then you condemn them and their families to poverty.

2. The area is 'short on workers' if it is relying on a surplus public employee base for doing things like keeping the streets clean and helping out in old folks homes. It is implicit in the use of government as a source of jobs of last resort that if there is no spare labour, then you will have nobody to do all the non-basic works and you will have no justification for additional infrastructure spend.

3. You miss the point. A basic income allows people time and freedom to be creative if they choose. When the Conservatives in the early 1990's in the UK restricted social welfare to under 25's, Noel Gallagher of Oasis predicted that it would destroy working class rock n roll, and leave the future only to music made by rich kids. He was proven right, which is why we have to listen to Coldplay every time we switch on the radio.

4. This ignores the reality that jobs are never spread evenly across regions. One of the biggest problems in the US labour market is that the unemployed often just can't afford to move to where the jobs are available. A guaranteed job scheme organised on local govenment basis doesn't address this, if anything it can exacerbate the problem. And the simplest and easiest way to have a minimum wage is to have a minimum wage.

aj , January 23, 2017 at 11:39 am

1) Kelton always talks about a JG being for people "willing and able to work." If you are not willing I don't really have much sympathy for you. If you are not able due to psychological factors or disability, then we can talk about how you get on welfare or the BIG/UBI. The JG can't work in a vacuum. It can't be the only social program.

2) Seems unrealistic. You are just searching to find something wrong. If there is zero public employment, that means private employment is meeting all labor demands.

3) I have no idea what you are going on about. I'm in a band. I also have a full-time job. I go see local music acts all the time. There are a few that play music and don't work because they have rich parents, but that's the minority. Most artists I know manage to make art despite working full time. I give zero shits what corporate rock is these days. If you don't like what's on the radio turn it off. There are thousands of bands you've never heard of. Go find them.

4) Again, you are just searching for What-If reasons to crap on the JG. You try to keep the jobs local. Or you figure out free transportation. There are these large vehicles called busses which can transport many people at once.

Yes these are all valid logistical problems to solve, but you present them like there are no possible solutions. I can come up with several in less than 5 minutes.

oho , January 23, 2017 at 8:04 am

For a more practical first step--how about getting rid of/slashing regressive and non-federal income tax deductible sales taxes? shifting that tax burden to where income growth has been.

Democratic Party-run states/cities are the biggest offenders when it comes to high sales taxes.

universal basic income in the West + de facto open borders won't work. just making a reasonable hypothesis.

Dita , January 23, 2017 at 8:06 am

Make-work will set you free?

voteforno6 , January 23, 2017 at 8:32 am

There might be a psychological benefit to a jobs guarantee vs. UBI. There are a lot of people that would much rather "earn" their income rather than directly receiving it.

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Norb , January 23, 2017 at 9:15 am

A JG would begin to rebuild the trust and cooperation needed to have a society based on justice instead of might makes right. Human life is based on obligations- we are all responsible to one another for the social system to work. The problem is always about how to deal with cheaters and shirkers. This problem is best solved by peer pressure and shaming- along with a properly functioning legal system.

I get a kick out of the "make work" argument against a JG. With planned obsolescence as the foundation of our economic system, it's just a more sophisticated way of digging holes and filling them in again. Bring on robotic automation, and the capitalist utopia is reached. Soul crushing, pointless labor can be sidelined and replaced with an unthinking and unfeeling machine in order to generate profits. The one problem is people have no money to buy the cheep products. To solve that dilemma, use the sovereign governments power to provide spending credits in the form of a UBI. Capitalism is saved from is own contradictions- the can is kicked farther down the road.

The obligations we have to one another must be defined before any system organization can take place. Right now, the elite are trying to have their cake and eat it too.

jerry , January 23, 2017 at 11:23 am

Well said!

Jamie , January 23, 2017 at 9:25 am

I agree with those who see a need for both programs. I think the critique of UBI here is a good one, that raises many valid points. But I have trouble with a portion of it. For instance:

by eliminating forced unemployment, it would eradicate systemic poverty

treats 'poverty' as an absolute when it is a relative. No matter what programs are in place, there will always be a bottom tier in our hierarchical society and those who constitute it will always be 'impoverished' compared to those in higher tiers. This is the nature of the beast. Which is why I prefer to talk about subsistence level income and degrees above subsistence. The cost of living may not be absolutely fixed over time, but it seems to me to be more meaningful and stable than the term 'poverty'. On the other hand, in a rent seeking economy, giving people an income will not lift them out of poverty because rents will simply be adjusted to meet the rise in resources. So UBI without rent control is meaningless.

Another point is that swapping forced unemployment for forced employment seems to me to avoid some core issues surrounding how society provides for all its members. Proponents of the JG are always careful to stress that no one is forced to work under the JG. They say things like, "jobs for everyone who wants one". But this fails to address the element of coercion that underlies the system. If one has no means to provide for oneself (i.e. we are no longer a frontier with boundless land that anyone can have for cheap upon which they may strike out and choose the amount of labor they contribute to procure the quality of life they prefer-if ever was such the case), then jobs for "everyone who wants one" is simply disingenuous. There is a critical "needs" versus "wants" discussion that doesn't generally come up when discussing JG. It's in there, of course, but it is postponed until the idea is accepted to the point where setting an actual wage becomes an issue. But even then, the wage set will bear on the needs versus wants of the employed, but leaves out those foolish enough to not "want" a job. Whereas, in discussing UBI, that discussion is front and center (since even before accepting the proposal people will ask, how much?, and proper reasons must be given to support a particular amount-which again brings us to discussing subsistence and degrees above it-the discussion of subsistence or better is "baked in" to the discussion about UBI in a way that it is not when discussing the JG).

PKMKII , January 23, 2017 at 9:44 am

While UBI interests me as a possible route to a non-"means of production"-based economy, the problem I see with it is that it could easily reduce the populace to living to consume. Given enough funds to provide for the basics of living, but not enough to make any gains within society, or affect change. It's growth for growth's sake, not as to serve society. Something is needed to make sure people aren't just provided for, but have the ability to shape the direction of their society and communities.

Teacup , January 23, 2017 at 9:48 am

Where I work @3/4 of the staff already receives social security and yet it is not enough seems to me human satisfaction is boundless and providing a relative minimum paper floor for everyone is just. Yet the way our market is set up, this paper floor would be gobbled back up by the rentier class anyway. So unless there is a miraculous change in our economic rent capture policies, we are screwed

So yes, just describe to people precisely what it is – a 'paper' floor not something that has firm footing yet acknowledges inequities inherent in our current currency distribution methods. And of course couple this with a jobs guarantee. I have met way too many people in my life that 'fall through the cracks' .

Portia , January 23, 2017 at 10:24 am

why is no one bemoaning the rabid over-consumption of the complainers who suck up much more than they will ever need, hoarding and complaining about people who do not have enough? the real problem is rampant out of control parasites

Teacup , January 23, 2017 at 12:04 pm

Must be a capital gains 'earner' . and a professional projectionist

Portia , January 23, 2017 at 12:19 pm

both ends see the other as a parasite

Ignacio , January 23, 2017 at 11:21 am

But Ferguson should also adknowledge that Livingston has some points.

Why on earth we politically put limits to, for instance, public earning-spending while do not put any limit to the net amount that one person can earn, spend and own?

Upward redistribution is what occurs in the neoliberal framework. UBI is distribution. Bear in mind that even in the best employment conditions, not everybody can earn a salary. 100% employment is unrealistic.

LT , January 23, 2017 at 11:58 am

The people marketing UBI and MMT have hundreds of years of attempted social engineereing to overcome. I referring to the " why people want what they want and why do they believe what they believe." Why?

The only suggestion I have is that, since everybody has a different relationship to the concept of work, the populations involved need to be smaller. Not necessarily fewer people, but more regions or nation states that are actually allowed to try their ideas without being attacked by any existing "empire" or "wanna be empire" via sanctions or militarily.
It is going to take many differerent regions, operating a variety of economic systems (not the globalized private banking extraction method pushed down every one's throat whether they like it or not) that people can gravitate in and out of freely.
People would have the choice to settle in the region that has rules and regulations that work most for their lives and belief systems (which can change over time).

Looking at it from the perspective that there can be only one system that 300 million plus people (like the USA) or the world must be under is the MAIN problem of social engineering. There needs to be space carved out for these many experiments.

schultzzz , January 23, 2017 at 12:05 pm

First, congratulations to everyone who managed to read this all the way through. IMO both this (and the guy he's responding to), seem like someone making fun of academic writing. Perhaps with the aid of a program that spits out random long words.

FWIW, when I lived in Japan, they had a HUGE, construction-based make-work program there, and it was the worst of both worlds: hard physical labor which even the laborers knew served no purpose, PLUS constant street obstruction/noise for the people in the neighborhoods of these make-work projects. Not to mention entire beautiful mountains literally concreted over in the name of 'jawbs'.

Different thought: I'm not sold on UBI either, but wouldn't it mess up the prostitution/sex trafficking game, almost as a side effect? Has anyone heard UBI fans promote it on that basis?

Ben , January 23, 2017 at 12:31 pm

The sound and fury of disagreement is drowning out what both authors agree on: guaranteed material standards of living and reduced working time. If that's the true goal, we should say so explicitly and hammer out the details of the best way to attain it.

MIB , January 23, 2017 at 1:12 pm

Interesting read society has become so corrupt at every level from personal up through municipal, regional and federal governments that it cant even identify the problem, let alone a solution

all forms of government and their corresponding programs will fail until that government is free from the monetary influences of individuals / corporations and military establishments, whether it be from donations to a political establishment or kick backs to politicians and legislators or government spending directed to buddies and cohorts

I don't pretend to understand the arguments at the level to which they are written, but at the basic level of true governance it must but open and honest, this would allow the economy to function and be evaluated, and then at that point we could offer up some ideas on how to enhance areas as needed or scale back areas that were out of control or not adding value to society as a whole

We stand at a place that has hundreds of years of built in corruption into the model, capable so far of funneling money to the top regardless of the program implemented by the left or the right sides of society

first step is to remove all corruption and influence from governance at every level until then all the toils toward improvement are pointless as no person has witnessed a "free market " in a couple hundred years, all economic policy has been slanted by influence and corruption

we can not fix it until we actually observe it working, and it will never work until it is free of bias / influence

no idea how we get there . our justice system is the first step in repairing any society

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djrichard , January 10, 2017 at 12:40 pm

"instead they've had difficulty even getting inflation high enough to hit their inflation target. Maybe the problem is the way the FED is counting dollars."

Ah, but they did stop deflation. Which was all they really cared about. Everything else was theater. Bottom line, Federal Reserve is the counterparty to all the private interests naked shorting the US dollar. Which always works unless that counterfeiting process starts to go into reverse. Just like naked shorting in the stock market can go into reverse and put a big deal of hurt on the naked shorters. But with naked shorting in the stock market, the party that is doing the counterfeiting of stock doesn't have a way to prevent the play from going into reverse. In contrast, the Federal Reserve does, through QE and whatever else they can do. Believe you me, if things got bad enough, they would have done a true helicopter drop. Whatever it takes to get their "liquidity pump" working again.

And they got their liquidity pump working again and stopped deflation. (So hey they were heros, yay! /sarc) And along the way, dollars (either newly borrowed or already in the economy) ended up in assets. And those assets keep going up through more inflation. So while they may not have "levitated the economy", they did levitate the demand for their liquidity pump. (What's not to love? /sarc)

It just hasn't reached high inflation because main street isn't a player. Otherwise, if main street was a player too, like they were for the dot com bubble and housing bubble, well then look out. But everybody on main street is just trying to survive. As far as the Federal Reserve is concerned that's a perfect "wall of worry" to provide them all the cover they need to make sure inflation doesn't get out of hand. To use the words of Adam Smith, "it's a virtuous cycle". Assets go up, the plebs aren't at the party yet, so no need to take away the punch bowl.

(And hey look at all the temp jobs that main street has now. Who says the magic of the Federal Reserve isn't doing good things? /sarc)

OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL , January 10, 2017 at 1:20 pm

Ah yes, "stopping deflation", what a disaster it would be if rent, food, health care cost less. The horror: people might be able to put a little away as "savings" and maybe even "invest". Can't have that now can we.
So we have a system where the Fed controls interest rates (domestic policy) and Treasury worries about exchange rates (trade and international). Their objectives align probably 20% of the time.
Meantime "bank underwriting" is a distant memory, just sign the deal, get your bonus, if/when it goes south Papa (Momma) CB will just smash the value of the scrip some more

craazyboy , January 10, 2017 at 2:07 pm

Post 2008 they decided banks had to securitize everything and sell it, then the financial system would be stable. Your portfolio – not so much.

RobertNYC , January 10, 2017 at 1:36 pm

yes djrichard that is a nice synopsis of how this all works but where does it end? How long can it go on? It is the world's biggest Ponzi scheme and it almost ended in 2008 when the plebes could no longer take on the increasing amounts of debt to keep it going. A normal Ponzi scheme ends when it runs out of fools to fleece but this one is different because it involves central banks which can step in to keep it all going once mainstream is tapped out. That's where we are now; they ginned up massive amounts of base money that was used to prop up asset prices on behalf of the elites. This whole thing has to be the biggest fraud and crime in human history but it is so esoteric that most people can't see it. The masses get buried under inflated costs associated with the asset bubble, inflation and interest payments while a small sliver at the top lives in a rentiers paradise.

They have added massive debt to the system since the 2008 debt crisis and things are now fine? Low interest rates mask the burden but at some point this must and will end. Once they stripped the gold out of the system in 1971 they set the groundwork for an explosion of debt. It's a very scary situation.

Yves Smith Post author , January 10, 2017 at 2:16 pm

1. What you should worry about is private debt to GDP, and that is below pre-crisis levels in the US:

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/private-debt-to-gdp

However, there has been a lot of unproductive private debt issuance even so, such as companies issuing debt to buy back stock and student debt financing overpriced college costs.

This is a good explanation of why private debt, particularly unproductive household debt, is the danger:

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/09/the-private-debt-crisis.html

QE is widely misunderstood as printing money when it isn't. It's a way to lower long term interest rates and spreads (as in lower the spread of prime mortgages relative to Treasuries).

2. China continues to have a massive debt bubble. And no major economy has made the transition from being investment and export led to consumption led without having a major financial crisis.

Robert NYC , January 10, 2017 at 3:10 pm

Are you suggesting that the U.S. monetary system is healthy and sound?

Completely agree that the creation of unproductive debt is the real problem in any economy. Michael Hudson has written brilliantly on that issue. Most debt/money creation should be closely tied to productive investment.

As for private debt to GDP, I have no basis to comment on whether it higher or lower than pre-crisis levels without doing a lot of work. Those types of figures are fraught with complexity based on source data, assumptions and methodology. Would love to see those figures by sector, student loan, credit card, auto loan, mortgage, corporate, municipal, etc. In any case it is unambiguous that government debt has increased by nearly $10,000,000,000,000.00 since 2008. Does anyone think that is a good thing? And that excludes retirement and medical costs which dwarf the funded debt. Federal deficit went up by $1.4 last year, 9/30/16 year-end, after a 7 year supposed recovery when tax revenues should be peaking. What's up with that?

The U.S. may be able to borrow in its own currency but because of its current account deficit it is dependent on foreigners to play along. How long is that going to last?

Any thoughts on the 1974 deal whereby the Saudis agreed to secretly support the dollar. What happens to dollar hegemony without those kinds of deals.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-05-30/the-untold-story-behind-saudi-arabia-s-41-year-u-s-debt-secret

What is going on with Russia right now, why the new cold war? Russia runs a pipeline through Ukraine and is the leading supplier of natural gas to western Europe. It's not dollar based. Qatar sits on the world's largest supplies of natural gas and wants to run pipeline North through Syria. Asssad said no. U.S. then unleashed a proxy war to unseat Assad. Qatar is a U.S. client state, like Saudi Arabia, and they allowed U.S. to build massive air base outside of Doha. Qatar plays along with U.S. and in return the Al Thani family remains in power.

I am afraid this is all a bit more complicated and fragile than meets the eye.

What is your definition of printing money? Is there no such thing in your mind? Does a central bank ever print money in your view of the system other than when they ask the U.S. Treasury's Bureau of Engraving and Printing to create some federal reserve notes?

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Robert NYC , January 10, 2017 at 5:24 pm

I have read two of Randall Wray's books on MMT and Warren Mossler's Seven Deadly Innocent Frauds. I am fairly well acquainted with MMT. As for Mossler I wish he had a good editor because his stuff could read much better. As for Wray's TWINTOPT ("that which is needed to pay taxes") definition of money, you can also argue for TWINTOPP ("that which is needed to purchase petroleum") as a definition of money. Pricing the world's most important commodity in "something" is an even more effective of way of causing that something to be used as money.

As for MMT I like some of the ideas but it seems to suffer from the same fundamental problems that the current system does. If the government has a monopoly on producing money, it is a given that they will overdo it at some point just like what happens with the current private system where the banks over did it. You end up with the same rudimentary questions/problems under MMT or the current type system:

1) what are the rules governing its creation?
2) and who is in charge and gets to decide?

Either system can work if it is intelligently and honesty run but of course that is asking a lot. Unfortunately men can not be trusted to run an honest system for any length of time because creating money is the world's greatest privilege and it will always be abused at some point; war, greed, stupidity, it doesn't matter, at some point discipline is lost. That in summary is the entire history of money.

Mel , January 10, 2017 at 7:07 pm

There's a lot of history behind the MMT conception.

David Graeber, in Debt the First 5000 Years describes kings creating money in order to pay the army, and creating impersonal markets (pp. 226-227) where money was good in order to feed the army without
a) trundling huge convoys of grain all over the country all day, every day, or
b) letting the army feed itself, and stripping the country bare.

The way this had to be done without impersonal markets is described by Pierre Loti in Au Maroc (not sure where to find a version in English.) Loti was part of a French diplomatic mission to the depths of Morocco. To feed the mission, the Sultan sent word in advance to the people near each nightly stop, ordering them to provide a sufficiently larg feast. Without the modern features of civilisation, that was the only way.

One of Gandhi's early campaigns was against a move by the British governmennt in India to licence all mango trees. The situation had been that there were feral mango trees growing all over India, and anyone who was going by such a tree, and felt like a snack, could pick a mango and eat it. This scheme provided no role for the government. The plan was for each tree to be licenced, for a fee, and to destroy any un-owned, unlicenced tree. Then everybody would be obliged to pay rupees for their snacks. The government's control of society through the impersonal market would be strengthened. Pity that people would get less to eat. ISTR Gandhi won that one.

I could entertain the doubt that without pre-existing money and a global impersonal market there would even be petroleum to buy. Who would drill down to the petroleum, pump it out of the ground, and ship it halfway around the world to where you happen to be in the hope that you even exist, and, if you exist, that you even want petroleum and have something worthwhile to give in exchange? It takes a global impersonal market to aggregate personal whims and accidents into something that we call demand, and find we can count on in making far-reaching decisions on what to do. I wonder, could we even have industry without it? Hmmm

djrichard , January 10, 2017 at 7:13 pm

Check out http://www.monetary.org/lostscienceofmoney.html History shows abuse of the money supply primarily comes from two places: 1) true illegal counterfeiting by outside parties, 2) true legal counterfeiting (ahem borrowing) by inside parties who are simply shorting the currency when the economy is publicly biased towards increased private debt (think Wiemar Republic or Venezuela).

In contrast, Fed Gov fiat (MMT) is not based on a fractional reserve system. At least not the ones I hear people talk about. So the magnitude of debasement/debauchery is a lot less compared to fractional-based currencies. Plus the monetary base can always be shrunk by issuing bonds if the will power to tax is weak.

Yves Smith Post author , January 10, 2017 at 7:14 pm

MMT is not "a system". It is an empirical description of how fiat currencies work.

Saying you don't like MMT is like saying you don't like gravity.

steelhead23 , January 10, 2017 at 6:27 pm

Thanks for stepping in, Yves. But I have a minor quibble with that Private Debt to GDP graphic you linked. Because the graph's Y-origin begins at 195%, the 7.5% reduction since 2008 looks like a 500% decrease. Bottom line – private debt to GDP remains very high and the economy is much weaker than it was in 08. Unless GDP picks up quickly (less the Ponzi-esque growth in equities), our financial future does not appear strong.

Is it OK if I hope (against my better judgement) that Trump is serious about improving U.S. infrastructure through deficit spending and the loony conservatives in Congress go along?

djrichard , January 10, 2017 at 3:03 pm

"but at some point this must and will end"

If this ends, the only way it does so is through deflation. But the Fed Reserve is always on hand to do "whatever it takes" to prevent deflation.

If the Federal Reserve loses that fight (and it's hard to think of a scenario where they could ostensibly lose), then deflation would take out everybody who is in debt. Which is pretty much everybody, except people who have no debt and are holding cash. The Fed Gov would certainly have to step in to provide 3 hots and a cot.

Instead, we have an outcome where the deflation monster is kept at bay, but everybody is up to their eyeballs in debt (I'm speaking private debt here. By the way, notice how private debt forgiveness never enters into the conversation). Except for the elite, they're not in debt to their eyeballs because the height of their eyeballs can keep getting higher and higher. The elite know if the wall-of-worry disappears, forcing the Fed Reserve to raise rates, they'll be caught with their pants down. But they also know they'll be rescued again (the ol deflation monster must be defeated once again. We do this for you little people don't you know). So that's where the economy is thriving – for the elite.

Robert NYC , January 10, 2017 at 3:19 pm

In aggregate terms the elites hold the other side of all the debt that was created, that is why they won't tolerate deflation, everything implodes under such a scenario. The masses are buried under the debt, while a small minority holds the asset side of it. Therefore everything will be done to stave off deflation. System is very fragile, teetering between deflation and potential hyper inflation. They have threaded a needle so far to keep it stable but things are not normal. It will be some time before we know how this resolves itself.

craazyboy , January 10, 2017 at 1:58 pm

The issue isn't monetary policy, i.e increasing or decreasing the supply of money, the issue is that the way we've decided to do it is by increasing and decreasing interests rates. So we end up in this bazzarro world where, .
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Stop! I know the answer!

Fed Chief Mariner Eccles explained that long ago – "pushing on a string won't work"

Keynes explains it in English – This doesn't work when in a "liquidity trap"

Our current Fed are Monetary_keynesians working in the Mariner Eccles building.

Someone tell Ben and Janet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TosTrader , January 10, 2017 at 2:21 pm

"If we accept that only the Federal Government, through spending and taxing, can increase or decrease the supply of dollars"

the vast majority of dollars in the economy are actually created by banks in the form of deposits generated by making loans. The central bank (Federal Govt.) seeks to control the level of reserves in the interbank market and has very limited control over the the supply of money in the economy as a whole. banks do not lend reserves, which is why there can be reserves sloshing all around the system without causing inflation. As long as there are idle resources in the economy the danger of inflation is overblown.

Ranger Rick , January 10, 2017 at 11:47 am

Just follow the money. How does monetary policy influence influence the average person's finances? They don't have access to the discount window. Business investment is at an all-time low. Just witness the famously large cash hoards currently collecting dust in the Fortune 500 and companies like Uber setting billions of dollars on fire trying to get into new markets instead of developing new products. Instead they're using cheap debt to buy competitors and fire all their employees. Small businesses are disappearing and there are fewer new ones to replace them - nobody has collateral.

Until financial policy starts seriously considering "helicopter money" the economy is just going to sit there spinning its wheels, going nowhere on the backs of a vast underclass with no money to spend. Government contracts are and remain the only way the average person might even catch a glimpse of the world of finance, a fact that must seem appalling to any financial conservative.

Ivy , January 10, 2017 at 12:08 pm

Inflation is hidden in plain sight for many consumers. Just take a trip to the grocery store, or a home improvement big box, or any number of other retailers. From personal, anecdotal, small-sample, and otherwise qualified observations , retailers held prices low until the election and then started to raise them. That will add some pop to their fourth quarter earnings, while people adjust budgets accordingly.

[Jan 11, 2017] A fiat currency issuer can deficit spend without creating debt instruments

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Yves Smith Post author , January 10, 2017 at 7:23 pm

This is not correct and I hate to tell you but your comments on this topic are very confused, and worse, you are terribly self confident about your erroneous beliefs.

A fiat currency issuer can deficit spend without creating debt instruments. You do not take your dollar bills in a fiat regime to the Treasury and get them redeemed for something material. The only use you can make of currency with the Treasury is to extinguish your tax liabilities.

The Fed can only 'lend' fiat. They don't 'spend' fiat, unless Congress authorizes the purchase (e.g. Tarp). But note that even foreign currency purchases of the Fed have to be cleared by Treasury (which happens behind closed doors and no one notices). So no, the Fed does not bypass Congress.

And if you mean that Fed offers deposit insurance on deposits (created via private lending) but that's still an authority given to it by Congress when FDIC was created. And the FDIC has a 'line of credit' with the Treasury, not the Fed, so again Congress is not bypassed. In fact, the credibility of the FDIC only exists because of that line of credit from the Treasury, since it means they are de facto linked to the currency issuing entity directly.

The Fed NEVER creates fiat for the private sector. It exchanges green paper money for bank reserve balances–$ for $ exchange. There is no cost to the Fed or the govt. Not to mention that the Fed's overall operations are a cash cow for the federal govt (due to its profits via interest income on securities owned vs. costs of its liabilities and salaries, etc.), so it never needs Congressional appropriations. As an MMT expert said of your BTW "This question in the first place shows that this guy has no idea how any of this works."

[Jan 11, 2017] The chart from Citibank shows the eye-popping expansion of central bank balance sheets, from roughly $3 trillion in the year 2000 to $20 trillion today.

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Jim Haygood , January 10, 2017 at 12:18 pm

This chart from Citibank shows the eye-popping expansion of central bank balance sheets, from roughly $3 trillion in the year 2000 to $20 trillion today.

http://tinyurl.com/grgvnyl

Evidently the "EM" band in green is dominated by China, which accumulated over $4 trillion in forex (primarily US Treasuries) through 2013. Now it's having to sell Treasuries to prop up the yuan exchange rate.

But Haruhiko "Mad Dog" Kuroda at the Bank of Japan is picking up the slack from China with a ferocious buying binge, as Mario "Whatever It Takes" Draghi closely pursues him.

Common sense would tell you that expanding central bank assets at many multiples of economic growth is neither sustainable nor even sensible. Central banksters are giving ol' John Law a run for the money. With any luck they should be able to produce an epic calamity, since their bubble blowing is global rather than confined to one country.

jsn , January 10, 2017 at 1:22 pm

Actually, the Fed is just laundering crap from our TBTFs and supporting the purchasing power of the dollar:
http://econbrowser.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/fed_assets_dec_15.png
The grey is crap being invisibly written down at taxpayers expense (actually holding a very small percentage of its face value, but embarrassing for Jamie and Lloyd if admitted in public), the baby blue is keeping the imports made abroad by our multinationals "affordable" without them having to re-patriate the cash.

craazyboy , January 10, 2017 at 1:46 pm

I'm pretty sure "grey" is the "good" MBS. They swore up and down it was Fannie&Freddie MBS they were buying as part of QE – these are supposed to be the high quality end of mortgage instruments and I think it really did turn out that way.

The drek mopped up from Bears and others is called "Maiden", and is the nearly imperceptible dark blue on this chart. If they properly wrote them down immediately, then they wouldn't show up on a current chart! This is why "audit" sounds cool. Then we could have a completely different chart showing how much they did give away to their buddies.

jsn , January 10, 2017 at 3:14 pm

No doubt they did say that, I guess I've just grown less trusting.

Given the proTBTF tilt of all else that transpired I just can't believe Timmy and The Fed really took possession of anything it would have pained Jamie and Lloyd to give up.

It would be interesting to see an audit!

RobertNYC , January 10, 2017 at 1:42 pm

"Common sense would tell you that expanding central bank assets at many multiples of economic growth is neither sustainable nor even sensible. Central banksters are giving ol' John Law a run for the money. With any luck they should be able to produce an epic calamity, since their bubble blowing is global rather than confined to one country."

It's inevitable and will make John Law look like a rank amateur when this thing comes apart.

jsn , January 10, 2017 at 3:17 pm

Personally, I'm looking forward to what happened next: the Regent toured France with a detachment Dragoons collecting gold from hoarders at bayonete point!

Tom Bradford , January 10, 2017 at 4:11 pm

Yay! This article and its comments exemplifies why I spend far longer on NC than on any other site on the Web. Not only had it never before occured to me that The Wizard of Oz was an allegory of anything – tho' it's obvious even to the dim-witted like me once pointed out – it helped me understand the concepts and relationships that underlie 'money'. In short, how a pound note can be, as it says, "worth one pound".

[Jan 11, 2017] Empire of chaos: by creating military mayhem all over the world we have attracted savings to the US economy for fear it might be lost any where else.

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Robert NYC , January 10, 2017 at 5:58 pm

The author's critique of modern central banking seems dead on, the fallacy of pushing on a string etc, but he seems to think their response was a mistake because what we really lack is fiscal stimulus. Pardon me if I am confused but didn't the government just engage in the biggest fiscal stimulus in the history of the world as evidenced by its massive deficit spending to the tune of ten trillion dollars. Was that not a fiscal stimulus? What is the author's point? That we need even more of this! If Mr. Ferguson would clarify that would be great.

I happen to think everything they have done is mistake and that what we need is a debt jubilee which is what William White, one of the world's foremost monetary theorists and former chief economist of the BIS also thinks.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/davos/12108569/World-faces-wave-of-epic-debt-defaults-fears-central-bank-veteran.html

Yves Smith Post author , January 10, 2017 at 7:31 pm

No, the bailouts were not fiscal spending. They were done mainly by special facilities and those loans were paid back. QE is also not fiscal spending.

The US engaged in only about $800 billion of fiscal spending. China did the most, IIRC about $2 trillion.

William White was very good in the runup to the crisis in identifying the housing bubbles but is really clueless about the debt of fiat currency issuers v. that of non-fiat issuers, like US states and countries in the Eurozone.

RBHoughton , January 10, 2017 at 9:47 pm

There is a slight upside to the frightful monetary policy we have been obliged to pursue – by creating military mayhem all over the world we have attracted savings to the US economy for fear it might be lost any where else.

Even UK has proved unsafe and western media is making the EU look dodgy too.

So regardless of the reality of a dormant national economy the money keeps coming in.

Don't forget the tax havens either – they invest in New York.

[Jan 11, 2017] January 10, 2017 at 12:17 pm

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The whole "Wizard of Oz is a parable about monetary policy" thing turned out to have been made up by a high school teacher as a device for learning about the populist movement: https://grorarebookroom.wordpress.com/2014/02/01/mythbusting-the-wizard-of-oz-parable-on-populism/

djrichard , January 10, 2017 at 1:35 pm

See http://www.halcyon.com/piglet/Populism.htm which is another refutation of the Wizard of Oz as any kind of allegory to monetary theory.

But look at the poem that's repeated in there. It's fairly clear that Frank Baum had opinions on currency. Now that particular poem is a peon to Mckinley and "honest money". Which would make one think that Baum was a hard money advocate, as McKinley and "honest money" was the counter William Jennings Bryan (WJB) arguing against the "cross of gold". But WJB's campaign for silver had the same failings as gold, they were both banker's money. Perhaps Baum saw the disadvantages either way.

In any case, Bill Still provides what I think is the better currency allegory from Frank Baum's story, in that it's an advocation against both silver (the silver shoes) and gold (the yellow brick road) and was for "paper money" issued by the Fed Gov (the emerald city). See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sboh-_w43W8 . Now this is purely Bill's interpretation, just like the refutation you're linking to was admitted to be an interpretation too. I happen to think Bill's allegory works better and there's strong reason to think that this is where Baum's head was at (given he was opinionated on currency and an advocate of the farmer's vulnerabilities to issues related to currencies).

Matthew G. Saroff , January 10, 2017 at 12:18 pm

I agree with your basic assessment, but your analysis of OZ was created by high school history teacher Henry Littlefield in the 1960s as a metaphor :

Littlefield himself wrote to The New York Times letters to the editor section spelling out that his theory had no basis in fact, but that his original point was "not to label Baum, or to lessen any of his magic, but rather, as a history teacher at Mount Vernon High School, to invest turn-of-the-century America with the imagery and wonder I have always found in his stories."

Yves Smith Post author , January 10, 2017 at 2:21 pm

Wikipedia points out:

Biographers report that Baum had been a political activist in the 1890s with a special interest in the money question of gold and silver, and the illustrator Denslow was a full-time editorial cartoonist for a major daily newspaper. For the 1901 Broadway production Baum inserted explicit references to prominent political characters such as President Theodore Roosevelt .

Littlefield's knowledge of the 1890s was thin, and he made numerous errors, but since his article was published, scholars in history,[7] political science[1] and economics[11] have asserted that the images and characters used by Baum closely resemble political images that were well known in the 1890s. Quentin Taylor, for example, claimed that many of the events and characters of the book resemble the actual political personalities, events and ideas of the 1890s.[10] Dorothy-naïve, young and simple-represents the American people. She is Everyman, led astray and seeking the way back home.[10] Moreover, following the road of gold leads eventually only to the Emerald City, which may symbolize the fraudulent world of greenback paper money that only pretends to have value.[10] It is ruled by a scheming politician (the Wizard) who uses publicity devices and tricks to fool the people (and even the Good Witches) into believing he is benevolent, wise, and powerful when really he is a selfish, evil humbug. He sends Dorothy into severe danger hoping she will rid him of his enemy the Wicked Witch of the West. He is powerless and, as he admits to Dorothy, "I'm a very bad Wizard."[12]

Historian Quentin Taylor sees additional metaphors, including:

The Scarecrow as a representation of American farmers and their troubles in the late 19th century
The Tin Man representing the industrial workers, especially those of American steel industries
The Cowardly Lion as a metaphor for William Jennings Bryan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_interpretations_of_The_Wonderful_Wizard_of_Oz

ekstase , January 10, 2017 at 6:50 pm

There's a fascinating interview with Yip Harburg, the lyricist for "The Wizard of Oz", from Democracy Now:
http://m.democracynow.org/stories/9873

In it, there is some discussion of who Frank Baum really was. And other stuff, like how Yip's song, "Brother Can You Spare a Dime," was regarded:
"Roosevelt and the Democratic Party really wanted to tone it down and keep it off the radio,"

And why the songs stop in the film:
"on their way to the wicked witch, when all the songs stopped, because they wouldn't let them do anymore. OK? You'll notice then the chase begins, you see, in the movie.

AMY GOODMAN:

Why wouldn't they let them do anymore?

ERNIE HARBURG:

Because they didn't understand what he was doing, and they wanted a chase in there."

Art fights life, or something.

[Nov 19, 2016] We should not use the term capital when referring to credit/lending that is not related to economically real outputs

Notable quotes:
"... "And even though neoliberals and international banks would have you believe otherwise, a fall in these money movements is entirely a good thing. As Ken Rogoff and Carmen Reinhart found in their study of 800 years of financial crises, high levels of international capital flows are correlated with more frequent and severe financial crises. Similarly, a 2010 Bank of International Settlements study by Claudio Borio and Petit Disyatat ascertained that cross border capital flows were over 60 times trade flows, meaning they had almost nothing to do with them. " ..."
"... I think it is apparent that the entire edifice of finance has been jiggered to benefit, Davos man and NO ONE ELSE. ..."
"... hy shouldn't Davos man want it to continue – the aftermath was set right for the 0.1% remarkably fast in the aftermath of the Great Recession – by HUGE infusions of government money, guarantees, credit, forbearance, etcetera – which for some reason can NEVER be made available to the 90% ..."
"... This is probably the most salient reason Hillary lost, but it can never, ever be proffered as a reason for it would reveal that ALL our problems are due to the rich . ..."
"... I've often wondered how "The Multiplier Effect" of money, [not] circulating and recirculating in our local economies, at the consumer level, is affected by money sent out of the country by "immigrants"? ..."
"... Is this such a small amount as not to be considered part of "cross border capital flows"? How does it affect local economies that are more important to us than what happens on Wall Street? ..."
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Sound of the Suburbs November 19, 2016 at 8:27 am

You can only pillage the world once, though I think they are going for second helpings in Brazil right now.

tegnost November 19, 2016 at 11:13 am

m'kay so kind of like robbing peter (emerging markets with growth potential) to pay paul (goldman et.al.) until peter goes broke (asset bubble collapse) so paul can't be paid until he "natural" growth potential of emerging markets recovers (peters growth potential recovers from the asset bubble/debt overhang with best performance to those with more flexible currency) so that paying paul (new grifts, oops financial innovations) can be foisted on them again leading to, in hindsight only of course, and notably after paul has been paid, another collapse? rinse and repeat .is there any sense to this postulation?

JF November 19, 2016 at 11:47 am

Why do you use the term 'capital' when referring to credit/lending that is not related to economically real outputs. The rest of the article tells this story but the lead groups it all as 'capital' flows.

This is an editorial suggestion really one that does not conflate or mislead when treating credit creation used for financial asset trading as if it were the same general thing as FDI, that is, direct investment.

We have seen the financial system react to the crisis by recognizing their own unhinged behavior, and doing much less of it for good reasons. They know their credit creating behavior was nit coverting Savings into Investment, they know it was not 'capital' – so editors, let us help our writers to bring more clarity.

Grebo November 19, 2016 at 1:19 pm

I agree. We need a separate word for 'financial capital'. I am thinking 'ante' or 'stake' or some similar word from the world of gambling and confidence tricks.

fresno dan November 19, 2016 at 11:56 am

"And even though neoliberals and international banks would have you believe otherwise, a fall in these money movements is entirely a good thing. As Ken Rogoff and Carmen Reinhart found in their study of 800 years of financial crises, high levels of international capital flows are correlated with more frequent and severe financial crises. Similarly, a 2010 Bank of International Settlements study by Claudio Borio and Petit Disyatat ascertained that cross border capital flows were over 60 times trade flows, meaning they had almost nothing to do with them. "

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This is probably something that not one in 10,000 people understand (I don't really either) – but I think it is apparent that the entire edifice of finance has been jiggered to benefit, Davos man and NO ONE ELSE. And why shouldn't Davos man want it to continue – the aftermath was set right for the 0.1% remarkably fast in the aftermath of the Great Recession – by HUGE infusions of government money, guarantees, credit, forbearance, etcetera – which for some reason can NEVER be made available to the 90%

This is probably the most salient reason Hillary lost, but it can never, ever be proffered as a reason for it would reveal that ALL our problems are due to the rich .

Dave November 19, 2016 at 12:31 pm

I've often wondered how "The Multiplier Effect" of money, [not] circulating and recirculating in our local economies, at the consumer level, is affected by money sent out of the country by "immigrants"?

Is this such a small amount as not to be considered part of "cross border capital flows"? How does it affect local economies that are more important to us than what happens on Wall Street?

Three numbers hopefully to provide 'balance':

[Nov 19, 2016] Helicopter money by Stefan Gerlach

www.project-syndicate.org

Years of low interest rates and quantitative easing have not restored growth to developed countries, and many observers lately have been calling on central banks to inject stimulus into economies directly. But do the rewards of "helicopter money" outweigh the risks?

ZURICH – The world has been on pins and needles since Donald Trump's upset victory over Hillary Clinton in the United States' presidential election last week. No one – including, perhaps, the president-elect himself – quite knows what shape the next US administration will take, or what its policy priorities will be.


Compounding this uncertainty is the fact that, around the world, geopolitical tensions are rising, with developed economies continuing to experience tepid growth, even after years of record-low interest rates. For Trump to stimulate enough activity in the US economy to satisfy his zealous base, he will have to find the right balance between fiscal measures and monetary-policy tools.

Whether Trump continues the post-1945 US tradition of international leadership, or instead chooses an "America first" approach, he will not be alone in his quest for growth: Japan and eurozone countries are also struggling to bring about sustainable recoveries and meet central banks' inflation targets. Project Syndicate commentators have been at the forefront of the ongoing debate about what policymakers can do to achieve these goals. In particular, while Trump and policymakers elsewhere are embracing fiscal activism, how far they are willing or able to go remains uncertain, raising the question of what more central banks could do to stimulate demand and boost growth.

Spinning in Circles

The recent shift toward fiscal expansion reflects widespread agreement that policymakers are running out of stimulus options. Central banks can no longer rely on "forward guidance," such as half-promises that interest rates will remain low indefinitely. And quantitative easing (QE) is quickly losing its potency, perhaps because it is inherently more effective as a crisis-response mechanism than as a long-term fix.

[Nov 16, 2016] If the unsecured credit lines that make the payments system function smoothly are liquidity, then are these credit lines also money?

Notable quotes:
"... ""This analysis raises a host of questions: If the unsecured credit lines that make the payments system function smoothly are liquidity, then are these credit lines also money? Should they be money? If these credit lines that are so important to the operation of the payments system are not money, then what is the point of defining money at all? I am still puzzling over these questions so I only ask them and don't pretend to answer them here."" ..."
"... Sissoko acknowledges the role that sovereign governments play in establishing money systems but I think gives too much credit :) to private bank credit creation. ..."
"... If money grew on trees it would be worth very little (Wray 2004) ..."
"... Money is the result of the struggle between debtors' demand for money and creditors' belief that the state can service its debt, which in turn depends on tax revenues. And it is the need to work for a taxable income that gives it value. (Ingham) ..."
"... Taxes don't finance spending but are necessary for money to have state backed value. They are also an important way for the state to transfer resources whether for bank bailouts, wars, social security, health care or whatever the state deems important. ..."
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financial matters November 16, 2016 at 7:50 am

Carolyn Sissoko has an interesting new paper out, Financial Stability , in which she takes on the nature of money problem.

I think her concluding paragraph is interesting

""This analysis raises a host of questions: If the unsecured credit lines that make the payments system function smoothly are liquidity, then are these credit lines also money? Should they be money? If these credit lines that are so important to the operation of the payments system are not money, then what is the point of defining money at all? I am still puzzling over these questions so I only ask them and don't pretend to answer them here.""

As a derivatives expert she takes on the interesting question of how these complex sources of credit function, they provide credit but are they really money.

I think Ingham makes a great point relevant to this, "all money is credit but not all credit is money"

Sissoko acknowledges the role that sovereign governments play in establishing money systems but I think gives too much credit :) to private bank credit creation.

If money grew on trees it would be worth very little (Wray 2004)

Money is the result of the struggle between debtors' demand for money and creditors' belief that the state can service its debt, which in turn depends on tax revenues. And it is the need to work for a taxable income that gives it value. (Ingham)

Taxes don't finance spending but are necessary for money to have state backed value. They are also an important way for the state to transfer resources whether for bank bailouts, wars, social security, health care or whatever the state deems important.

BecauseTradition November 16, 2016 at 8:55 am

If money grew on trees it would be worth very little (Wray 2004)

That would depend on the rate of growth and, assuming every citizen had an equal number and quality of such trees, be an ethical means to create fiat apart from normal deficit spending for the general welfare.

Of course there are no such trees but equal fiat distributions to all adult citizens could have the same effect.

[Oct 28, 2016] Banks sell public money as their product and they extract interest for doing so. They thus act as a transfer agent of wealth from the real economy to rentiers.

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RGC : , October 28, 2016 at 05:42 AM

Your Money

You know that money that your bank lent you to buy your new house? Well, I want to let you in on a little secret: That wasn't the bank's money they lent you. And it wasn't some billionaire's money either. It was some of your own money, along with a little bit of mine and Tom's and Susie's and everybody else in this country. Can you imagine that?

It's a fact. It's why Henry Ford supposedly said that "if people understood our banking and monetary system, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning".(1)

When the bank lent you that money it took your promise to pay them back (a promissory note and title to the house as collateral) and in exchange it punched some numbers into a computer, creating your deposit account and thereby creating the money it lent to you.(2)

But how can that be, you say. How can the bank just invent money like that? Well they do "just invent money" and they can do it because our government agrees with them that they can do it.

But don't they have to pay for that money, you say. No, they don't. But they do have to be a depository institution ( a place you can keep your money on deposit) and there is some expense for them to that.

But they are charging me interest on that money, you say. Yes indeed, they are charging you interest on your own money, and mine, and Tom's, and Susie's, etc.

But that bank is a private business, and banks make a lot of profit, why should we pay them to loan us our own money, you say. Good question.

(1)
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/h/henry_ford_3.html
(2) http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/Documents/quarterlybulletin/2014/qb14q1prereleasemoneycreation.pdf

pgl -> RGC... , October 28, 2016 at 05:58 AM
"But don't they have to pay for that money, you say. No, they don't. But they do have to be a depository institution ( a place you can keep your money on deposit) and there is some expense for them to that."

Again? Take a look at the income statement of any bank. There is interest expense for them on those deposits. OK, it is low but then there are those subsidized services which is why noninterest expenses exceed noninterest income. Again - no exactly a total expense of 5% but mortgage rates today are not exactly 6% either.

RGC -> pgl... , October 28, 2016 at 06:23 AM
I said they incur some expenses.
pgl -> RGC... , October 28, 2016 at 07:18 AM
We all do. But I see you waste no time doing actual financial economics. If you did, you might realize how to capture monopoly profits. Look at the average return to equity compared to what you'd predict from a CAPM model. When I do this for health insurance companies, their average return is 3 times what they would be from a competitive market. When I do this for major banks, the average return to equity = the CAPM prediction. Estimated monopoly profits = 0.

Of course you have no idea what any of this means as all you know is word salad.

RGC -> pgl... , October 28, 2016 at 07:29 AM
Should health insurance companies exist?

Banks sell public money as their product and they extract interest for doing so. They thus act as a transfer agent of wealth from the real economy to rentiers.

pgl -> RGC... , October 28, 2016 at 05:59 AM
"banks make a lot of profit".

The return to equity for banks is about what one would expect from a risk-adjusted return perspective. Oh yes - the Capital Asset Pricing Model properly applied would show what utter nonsense this is.

RGC -> pgl... , October 28, 2016 at 06:27 AM
Jamie Dimon makes a bundle in comp, which reduces profit. Bankers are highly compensated for lending us our own money.

You defending banks now?

RGC -> RGC... , October 28, 2016 at 06:32 AM
Plus banks' access to public money means they get to blow up the economy periodically.
pgl -> RGC... , October 28, 2016 at 06:47 AM
Banks will always exist. Of course proper regulation of financial institutions can address this problem. But your word salad has nothing to do with the real issues.
pgl -> RGC... , October 28, 2016 at 06:46 AM
He does but what is the percentage of JPM's total assets? Do you even know? You might need a microscope to see it. And no - I am not defending banks. But your word salad is not getting at the real issues. And yet you persist.
RGC -> pgl... , October 28, 2016 at 06:50 AM
And you are not refuting anything I said. What are the real issues?
pgl -> RGC... , October 28, 2016 at 07:19 AM
Yea I have. Which is pretty amazing since you have said nothing of substance.

What are the real issues? Do you even read the various posts our host puts up? Or do you just babble BS 24/7?

RGC -> pgl... , October 28, 2016 at 07:41 AM
What did you refute, specifically?
RGC -> pgl... , October 28, 2016 at 06:47 AM
But the product they are selling is your own money, and mine. They are basically legalized counterfeiters.
pgl -> RGC... , October 28, 2016 at 06:47 AM
You must love word salads.
anne -> pgl... , October 28, 2016 at 06:47 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_asset_pricing_model

In finance, the capital asset pricing model (CAPM) is a model used to determine a theoretically appropriate required rate of return of an asset, to make decisions about adding assets to a well-diversified portfolio.

pgl -> anne... , October 28, 2016 at 07:23 AM
Let's do this for a bank. Expected return to assets = risk-free rate (1%) plus a 1% premium for bearing operational risk. But then the equity to asset ratio for banks is only 10% so the expected return to equity includes a 10% premium for bearing both operational risk and leverage risk. As such, the expected return to equity = 11% for these highly levered firms. And on average that is their actual return to equity.

For a great application of these thoughts - see that paper by Sarin and Summers. You may not remember when I put it up weeks ago but my internet stalker put up a link to it just yesterday. Of course this was PeterK's childish way of attacking someone who actually contributes to this blog. I said he should read it. So should RGC. They might learn something.

JohnH -> pgl... , October 28, 2016 at 07:56 AM
LOL! pgl assumes that banks' investors have a god-given right to a risk premium of 10%.

Of course, risk premiums are more in the range 4-5%, far below pgl's banker-coddling assumption.

"Some economists argue that, although certain markets in certain time periods may display a considerable equity risk premium, it is not in fact a generalizable concept. They argue that too much focus on specific cases – e.g. the U.S. stock market in the last century – has made a statistical peculiarity seem like an economic law."
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/equityriskpremium.asp#ixzz4OOLOzdqg

As for the economic concept of the time value of money, whereby savers get rewarded for setting money aside...the longer the time, the greater the reward, well, central banks have pretty well destroyed that with negative interest rates.

Time value of money: RIP. Nonetheless investors are still supposed to reap their extravagant risk premiums!!!

Fred C. Dobbs -> RGC... , October 28, 2016 at 06:30 AM
It's a Wonderful Life movie clip:
Bailey vs Potter - Democrat vs Republi... https://youtu.be/n2G0n3035Ns via @YouTube

(from about 1:30)

It's A Wonderful Life Bank Run https://youtu.be/iPkJH6BT7dM via @YouTube

(from about 1:00)

See also: the Mae sisters, Fannie & Ginnie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fannie_Mae

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_National_Mortgage_Association


EMichael -> Fred C. Dobbs... , October 28, 2016 at 07:44 AM
Fred,


the "wonderful Life" thing is a perfect example for this topic.

kudos

EMichael -> RGC... , October 28, 2016 at 06:42 AM
The stupidity never stops.

Fantasy land bs.

Damn.

pgl -> EMichael... , October 28, 2016 at 06:48 AM
Notice when I tried to introduce some real economics to the discussion - he changed the subject.
EMichael -> pgl... , October 28, 2016 at 07:16 AM
He can't figure out this aggregator thing. He cannot figure out the investor thing. He certainly has no knowledge of the secondary market.

He takes tiny little pieces of things, ignores the rest and then comes to a conclusion. Of course the conclusion is that MMT makes sense. Everyone knows it doesn't make sense and cannot work world.

Which is why he stays in his own world.

EMichael -> EMichael... , October 28, 2016 at 07:16 AM
oops

"cannot work in the real world"

pgl -> EMichael... , October 28, 2016 at 07:24 AM
He ignores basic finance. But then so does PeterK as actual thinking just gets him all angry. Which means you and I are tagged "liar". This is the intellectual garbage that is ruining this place.
RGC -> EMichael... , -1
"Money creation in practice differs from some popular misconceptions - banks do not act simply as intermediaries, lending out deposits that savers place with them, and nor do they 'multiply up' central bank money to create new loans and deposits."

http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/Documents/quarterlybulletin/2014/qb14q1prereleasemoneycreation.pdf

[Oct 23, 2016] Why money should not be considered to be a fuel for economics

Notable quotes:
"... I'm increasingly interested in the metaphors around banking, which seem to still come out of early 19th c invention of engines, all of which used ' fuel ' as a central tenet: 'the money supply fuels the economy'. Economics seems drenched in outdated, antiquated metaphors where ' fuel ' is always and everywhere a good thing, with no polluting externalities, and no downside costs. ..."
"... Fuels don't lie, cheat, or steal - continuing to use fuel as a central metaphor enables banks, economists, and central bankers to put their fingers in their ears and howl "La! La! La! Using metaphors shaped by sail-powered whaling ships hunting for blubber is working just great for us!!" After all, calculus had been invented by the 1820s - so math + moneyAsEngineSpeak = economics. ..."
"... If money were more widely regarded as a social tool: recognized as a tool that requires communication, social networks, and flourishes within civil society, then Haldane's observations would be met with "Doh, you betcha!" ..."
"... Then, also, Bill Black's observations that crime actually does exist, and often looks exceptionally respectable, would be impossible to ignore. ..."
"... I interpreted Brexit as a 'tea leaf' that the banks could no longer be made fine-proof without triggering social unrest. ..."
"... The way that I read this, contemporary economics and finance leads to utter, unmanageable disaster from which there is absolutely no way out. The engine 'melts down', so to speak. I feel as if I have spent the past 8 years watching systems nearly implode, be saved by extraordinary (lunatic) measures, and in the end the systems of thinking that created these problems are precisely the mental pathways that keep people stuck in a labyrinth of dysfunction. ..."
"... It's hard to work out how "1. Implode, not too violently" could give rise to anything other than lethal shortages, especially in urban environments, and how this could lead to anything but "2. blow up, social unrest" anyway. ..."
"... Money is social relations, power relations, if Gold is law then the powerful will grab the gold. If not, they'll grab the money creating buttons in various spreadsheets, unless opposed by all. ..."
"... Maybe there is a way to make the vulnerability that the central banks and banksters and CorpoStates like GE and Cigna and Goldman Sux nd the rest impose on the vast rest of us into a mutual exposure? ..."
"... There is nothing wrong with interest, as long as the rate is reasonable. It is a service charge for someone handing you money now to buy what you want now instead of waiting to save up the money. Interest does not make an economic system unstable. It's the same as a massage or other service you buy. You just need enough income to cover it, and the principal payment of course. ..."
"... "As noted in the article [money is] a concept created by human beings and should be considered a very malleable tool that we can use to do pretty much whatever we as a society decide we want to with it. If we truly wanted to create a more equitable society there is nothing stopping us from doing so except the greed of the few." ..."
"... The Big Lie that the federal government needs tax revenue in order to operate, so we "can't afford" the social benefits that help the non-rich, must be constantly debunked and rejected. ..."
"... The terminology of finance is designed to hide predatory and extractive activities behind a curtain of beneficial-sounding words. These terms are deeply embedded, and serve both to put some friendly makeup on the business, and allow the "consumers" to feel better about their capitulation. The process is akin to the way politicians wrap themselves in the flag while they sell out the citizenry. We know deep down that they are lying, but we prefer the false patriotism because it serves the lies we prefer to tell ourselves. We bitch and moan, but we play our part, because not doing so leads to trouble. It is the way most of us live our lives. ..."
"... Most people go along the big lie because of hope. ..."
"... Money is nutrition, not a snack. It's food and fertilizer. It makes things grow. You have to share it with other life like bacteria and worms: without these organisms in your gut ecology, you get sick (autism, diabetes, obesity, M.S.). Idiots try to convince us these organisms are parasites instead of symbionts just like Monsanto thinks bees are disposable or Donald Trump likes to think of pregnant women as drags on business profits. ..."
"... If you think altruism is for suckers, your Ayn Rand economy collapses because you confuse parasites with symbionts and symbionts with parasites. You can't distinguish between compensation for earned and unearned income. What's a tax and what's theft? Try living without bacteria making butyrate in your gut. Wells Fargo can no more survive without little people like airport janitors to scrub out the TB and Ebola stains than our cells can breathe without mitochondria. Yet who gets their pay driven down in corporate America? ..."
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ReaderOfTeaLeaves made an important observation yesterday on a post by Bill Black , i n reply to a comment by another NC regular and sometimes guest blogger, Clive . It describes a set of seductively inaccurate metaphors used to depict banking, money, and finance. Needless to say, some of the recent coinages, like "sharing economy" are downright Orwellian yet taking hold, but the older ones, by being well worn tropes, are so routine that the implicit messaging gets nary a thought.

By ReaderOfTeaLeaves

Clive, FWIW, I'm increasingly interested in the metaphors around banking, which seem to still come out of early 19th c invention of engines, all of which used ' fuel ' as a central tenet: 'the money supply fuels the economy'. Economics seems drenched in outdated, antiquated metaphors where ' fuel ' is always and everywhere a good thing, with no polluting externalities, and no downside costs.

Hence, what matters is 'efficiency': it's moneyAsEngineSpeak, so to speak.

Lordy, it's all petrochemical: from a time when chemical and mechanical engineering (and physics) were in their relative infancies and whaling schooners were sailing out of Nantucket.

Fuels don't lie, cheat, or steal - continuing to use fuel as a central metaphor enables banks, economists, and central bankers to put their fingers in their ears and howl "La! La! La! Using metaphors shaped by sail-powered whaling ships hunting for blubber is working just great for us!!" After all, calculus had been invented by the 1820s - so math + moneyAsEngineSpeak = economics.

Egads.

In that paradigm, Bill Black is a mere scold, an oddball, a scruffy prophet in the wastelands, so to speak.

If money were more widely regarded as a social tool: recognized as a tool that requires communication, social networks, and flourishes within civil society, then Haldane's observations would be met with "Doh, you betcha!"

Then, also, Bill Black's observations that crime actually does exist, and often looks exceptionally respectable, would be impossible to ignore.

Timmy Geithner is probably not a fan of: (a) Bill Black or (b) the idea of money as inherently social. Fuel is an emotionally sterile construct to work within; it enables one to avoid moral qualms, or any sense of personal responsibility when ' engines blow up', or when they 'run out of fuel '.

The fact that Haldane's observations and analysis are not more widely embraced suggests that somehow the business schools, economics departments, and bankers all still use thought processes shaped in the era of whalers seeking blubber for lanterns and lamps. Also, they probably still receive endowments from the Kochs, Exxon, and other fuel obsessed interests.
Egads.

Until the metaphors move to biology, with a concomitant recognition that some kinds of ' fuel ' (aka Coke, Fritos, Doritos, donuts) work for short-term energy bursts, but carry extremely negative longer term costs, I doubt that even the best attempts to muddle through will get us out of this mess. Without amendment, this system is going to do one of two things: (1) implode (not too violently) or else (2) blow up (social unrest).

I have no idea what the banker equivalent of 'chard, lettuce, and celery' would be, but some bright mind ought to be thinking about it. (You distinguish yourself as such a mind; I hope that my metaphor is not too offensive…)

I interpreted Brexit as a 'tea leaf' that the banks could no longer be made fine-proof without triggering social unrest. Then I read your comment, esp:

the U.K. government is stuck with its vast holding in RBS. The only way it could ever be rid of the RBS albatross is for RBS to have some vague hope of (eventually) earning its way back to being something other than a complete basket case.

Apart from, ironically, the central banks' own ZIRP policy, the biggest threat to this is endless redress for wrongdoing.

The way that I read this, contemporary economics and finance leads to utter, unmanageable disaster from which there is absolutely no way out. The engine 'melts down', so to speak. I feel as if I have spent the past 8 years watching systems nearly implode, be saved by extraordinary (lunatic) measures, and in the end the systems of thinking that created these problems are precisely the mental pathways that keep people stuck in a labyrinth of dysfunction.

Banking needs to be completely rethought, using the social sciences, which include the realities of criminal conduct corroding the system to such a degree that it is threatening to implode. I'm moving toward being agnostic as to whether this is a good thing, or not. Either way, the present systems as I've read you describe them do not seem even remotely sustainable.

John Merryman October 22, 2016 at 7:21 am

The metaphor I think applies is that we use money as both medium of exchange and store of value. While the first is inherently dynamic, the second is static, so a good analogy is that in the body, the medium is blood, while the store is fat. The trick has been how to store extreme amounts of notional wealth and that is largely by having the government borrow it back out and spend in ways which support the private sector, but don't compete with it in the hunt for profits. So are all those pallets of money going to fund our wars really about war, or is it about keeping that money flowing in one end and out the other? Consider all those super secure US savings bonds are mostly just being poured down various rat holes, rather then building a sustainable society.

This probably goes back to Roosevelt, who borrowed a lot of unemployed capital to put a lot of unemployed workers back to work.

Money is not a commodity to be mined or manufactured, whether gold or bitcoin, but a contract. Every asset is the other side of an obligation. It allows a large economy to function, but it also reduces community reciprocity, creating atomized societies.

Like blood, the economy needs very regulated amounts of money, as it functions as a voucher system and storing lots of excess vouchers eventually causes the system to collapse, when everyone tries to dump them at once. If government threatened to tax excess out, people would have to find other ways to store value, like in stronger communities and healthier environments, aka the commons. Most people save for the same general reasons, housing, healthcare, retirement, etc, which are ultimately community functions anyway.

Finance as a public utility doesn't have to be subservient to government. Much as government is analogous to the central nervous system, finance is to the circulatory system and the head and heart are separate organs.

Government started out as a private business, institutionalized as monarchy, before becoming a public utility. Now is the time to do the same with finance.

Never let a good crisis go to waste.

Edward Morbius October 22, 2016 at 8:54 pm

I'm leaning strongly to the idea that money is information . More specifically, it's information about general claims on national commerce. That gold coin in your hand is a bidding right . The obligation isn't to any one person, but your possession of it means that there's one less gold coin's bidding power throughout the rest of the economy.

I'm still sorting out my thoughts on this, but Frederick Soddy, the Technocrats (a short-lived 1920s – 1930s US movement), and the ecological economists (Georgescu-Roegen, Daly, Boulding, etc.) seem to make more sense to me.

The more I read of traditional / classical / neoclassical / post-Keynesian monetary theory the more I suspect nobody has much of a clue.

PuzzleMonkey October 22, 2016 at 7:30 am

Excellent and original points that make a tremendous amount of sense. Thank you.

One tiny quibble. It's hard to work out how "1. Implode, not too violently" could give rise to anything other than lethal shortages, especially in urban environments, and how this could lead to anything but "2. blow up, social unrest" anyway.

scott 2 October 22, 2016 at 8:13 am

US Grant rode in a horse-drawn carriage from his inauguration to a White House lit with coal-gas, while oil or candles. Medicine, sanitation, and agriculture was hardly different than it was in Roman times. The railroad and the telegraph represented technological progress.

A little more than 30 years later McKinley rode in an automobile to a White House lit with electric lamps, that had running water and sewage. Steel framed buildings could rise more the 3-4 stories off the ground. The causes of many diseases were known and somewhat preventable. The first radio transmission was months away, and the first powered flight was 3 years away. The standard of living of an average American doubled during that period. And it was all done under the gold standard.

DGP per capita of the US peaked in 1973, the same time Bretton Woods formally ended. A dollar today buys what 3 cents could buy when the Fed was formed. Do these FACTS escape the Krugmans of the world or are they merely inconvenient and in conflict with what seems to be the true nature of academic economics, to provide pseudo-science cover to political policy?

BecauseTradition October 22, 2016 at 9:14 am

By all means let's go back to worshipping a dumb, shiny metal rather than, for instance, removing all priviledges for the banks. And let's replace theft by inflation and deflation with theft by deflation alone.

And let's confuse correlation with cause since the massive gold and silver strikes during that period greatly increased the money supply and indeed, in some places, caused huge price inflation. And let's forget that it is the government's authority to tax that gives value to fiat and give gold owners a huge bonanza by making fiat needlessly expensive.

Tinky October 22, 2016 at 9:28 am

Setting aside your implied straw man, that it's a binary choice between unconstrained credit creation, and "worshipping" gold, would you argue that today's society is better or worse than that of 1970, just before the final (golden) constraint was broken?

Pespi October 22, 2016 at 10:36 am

Does the answer to this question answer the question? Money is social relations, power relations, if Gold is law then the powerful will grab the gold. If not, they'll grab the money creating buttons in various spreadsheets, unless opposed by all.

craazyboy October 22, 2016 at 1:54 pm

Or both. Hitler thought Chartalism (grandfather to MMT) was a great idea, then invaded France and stole France's sizeable gold horde too! These greedy people want it all!

BecauseTradition October 22, 2016 at 11:48 am

just before the final (golden) constraint was broken? Tinky

The central bank should not be allowed to create fiat for the private sector (e.g. Open Market Purchases) AT ALL so no constraint is needed there other than absolute prohibition.

As for the monetary sovereign, price inflation is a restraint wrt fiat creation since the voters hate it.

Also, please note that the demand for fiat is greatly reduced via other privileges for the banks. Eliminate those and the demand for fiat shall greatly increase – greatly increasing the amount of new fiat that can created without significant price inflation. This will be especially the case when government provided deposit insurance is properly abolished since a huge amount of new fiat should be required*.

*For the xfer of at least some currently insured deposits to inherently risk-free accounts at a Postal Checking Service or equivalent.

Tinky October 22, 2016 at 12:38 pm

Sounds good in theory, but how do you imagine that we might get to the point at which central banks are prohibited from creating credit for the private sector?

JTMcPhee October 22, 2016 at 12:55 pm

How much of that fiat creation gets done via electronic means? Maybe there is a way to make the vulnerability that the central banks and banksters and CorpoStates like GE and Cigna and Goldman Sux nd the rest impose on the vast rest of us into a mutual exposure?

I mean, "they" can leverage and disappear and derivatize "capital" and ZIRP and NIRP with impunity, and steal people's homes and garnish and change contract terms on personal accounts unilaterally.

Is there a turnabout, or are "we" so terrified of "instability" (where no "stability" really exists, "disruption " and all that, not to act? As well demonstrated in many posts in this very blog, it's not like the Fortress of FIRE's walls are any stronger than the foundations it is "coded" on…

John Zelnicker October 22, 2016 at 9:49 am

@scott 2 – "A dollar today buys what 3 cents could buy when the Fed was formed."

That something is true does not make it relevant; it can also be misleading. The real (domestic) purchasing power of a dollar is determined by the amount of labor it takes to earn that dollar. With the gains in labor productivity since 1913, it takes much less labor to earn today's dollar than it took to earn that 3 cents 103 years ago. Comparing the nominal cost of a loaf of bread in 1913 with its nominal cost today tells us nothing useful.

BecauseTradition October 22, 2016 at 10:08 am

Adding that deflation rewards risk-free money hoarding – a self-defeating strategy since progress requires taking risks.

OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL October 22, 2016 at 6:52 pm

Yes isn't it awful when the prices of goods and services go down, I hate it when I have to spend less money to eat and obtain shelter and all of the other necessaries of life.

https://mises.org/library/deflating-deflation-myth

Agricultural productivity rises so food costs less; industrial productivity rises so goods cost less; and these are what is known as "progress". Increasing productivity is what raises our standard of living.

But ah, there's a fly in the ointment, we have a debt-based money creation system. Problem

1.): Banks can print the principal but they can't print the interest. This leads to Problem

2.): people borrow either because they think they can grow money faster than the debt service, or because they are desperate and have no other choice.

Problem 2 (a) is that debt pulls demand from the future to the present, and when enough demand is pulled forward people will no longer feel they should borrow for future growth because there is none in sight. This leaves only desperate people borrowing to service existing outstanding debt and that prophecy fulfills itself.

We are told this is somehow a "steady state" system but that is mathematically and obviously incorrect. Even with unnatural acts like interest rates below zero (how can time preference be below zero, and what does that say for the prospects for growth?) the system winds down and needs to be completely reset.

The percentage of times that debt-based currency systems have failed in the past and gone to zero = 100…leave it to alchemists economists to insist they can pull it off though.

OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL October 22, 2016 at 7:09 pm

Like the Soviet Union we now live in an era of centrally-planned price fixing for the most important price of all in the economy: the price of money.
It's true that in eras where the price of money fluctuated wildly there were also wild fluctutaions in the economy, booms and busts.

But someone made the statement: "The Fed makes the economy more stable. But I do not think that word means what you think it does".

So no more busts…and no more booms, either. So put the periods of fastest economic growth and fastest rises in the standard of living out of your mind, those are history. And given the mathematics of "unlimited" debt creation, we'll get the bust anyway.

craazyboy October 22, 2016 at 7:19 pm

There is nothing wrong with interest, as long as the rate is reasonable. It is a service charge for someone handing you money now to buy what you want now instead of waiting to save up the money. Interest does not make an economic system unstable. It's the same as a massage or other service you buy. You just need enough income to cover it, and the principal payment of course.

Some people seem to have this idea that x amount of money was created to buy a car, but none was made to pay the interest. This causes the world to end. Not so. Money circulates and we know that around a trillion or so in circulation seems to be enough to support our $18 T in annual GDP. What is does mean is to pay off the 5 year car loan, you spent 4 years paying off the car and another year paying the interest.

A benefit of interest is it may allow people to live past retirement age – but there there is little economic focus on this phenomena.

Vatch October 22, 2016 at 8:15 pm

There is nothing wrong with interest, as long as the rate is reasonable.

In principle this is true, but it leads to a paradox in an economy in which money is based on debt. You start your second paragraph with an acknowledgement of this, but then you back down. In such an economy, money is created when it is loaned - this money is the principal of the loan. When the money is paid back, the money disappears.

But wait - the debtor must also pay back more than the principal of the loan; he or she must also pay back the interest. How is the interest created? The same way as the principal, but it is created by someone else's loan. So in a debt based economy, the amount of money in existence is less than the total amount of people's debts.

If everyone is thrifty, and pays back their loans promptly, some people will never be able to get the money to pay their interest. It's a game of musical chairs.

craazyboy October 22, 2016 at 8:51 pm

Pretty close, but consider this. The loan got paid back, the "money" disappeared, but the bank gained it as new loan capacity. The bank makes a new loan. So far I think I'm repeating what you stated. One minor problem is you say money is less than debt – it will be – debt is the contract for the entire amount. But not everyone pays it all off at once – we just need the liquidity to be there so the payor's personal bank account, or the one of their employer, doesn't run dry.

So at this point it's a matter of the banking system and the Fed managing liquidity. But the size of the Fed balance sheet and reserves steadily increases over the years to account for growth and any other liquidity needs the banks may have. It's either done directly with banks – buying treasury bond assets or loans to banks, or they buy Treasuries in the market, the money goes somewhere, then there is interbank lending to make it go where it's needed. (all in theory, of course. But the theory seems sound, when uncorrupted.)

OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL October 22, 2016 at 10:06 pm

You make it sound like a steady state system, but it's not, debt is *always* issued in excess of people's capacity to pay whether for political, psychological, or other reasons. The Fed knows this. So they desperately want to reduce the total indebtedness by inflating it away, and this puts everyone on a giant rat race treadmill, working two jobs trying to outrun the rise in prices. Given the rise in productivity we're all supposed to be living like the Jetsons by now but Oh No gatta keep running to stay in one place.
The Fed has forgotten that there is another way to reduce serial overindebtedness and that is B-A-N-K-R-U-P-T-C-Y. It has the added advantage of being an actual capitalistic endeavor, and not the inverted hyper-socialism we have today.The Fed keeps putting out brush fires so the dead wood keeps building up, eventually there is an unholy crowning conflagration that takes the whole forest with it.

craazyboy October 22, 2016 at 10:24 pm

Firstly, I said there is nothing wrong with interest . If you want to shift to "could something go wrong with principal_plus_interest in a fractional reserve central banking system", then, why yes! Plenty!

No, the system is by no means steady state – the economy has ups and downs and there are those occasional "credit crunch" periods where banks get spooked over some such thing and stop lending completely and then it seems like all the money disappeared. But that's why we have the Fed and everyone furiously managing liquidity.

Sluggeaux October 22, 2016 at 2:12 pm

Since we're on a terminology thread (and my grandfather was a whaler), the whaling vessels out of Nantucket tended to be square-rigged - barques, brigs, etc. Schooners were coastal vessels used by fishermen more often than by whalers, who travelled long distances to launch their hunts.

Great post - I want to puke every time I hear Wall Street referred to as an "economic engine." More like "social engineering" - of fraud schemes.

uncle tungsten October 22, 2016 at 10:07 pm

Ah! a new term is coined (pun intended):- fraudgineering always included in any sentence where the words "Wall Street" or a named bank is used.

Moneta October 22, 2016 at 8:32 am

A couple of generations ago most people lived on farms. Many would trade grain to pay the miller. In essence, hard cash was needed for goods at the general store.

Debt was used to finance big projects that were based on hard assets, land, commodities.

Fast forward to today…. banks still favour collateral based on hard assets yet services are a much bigger part of our economy. I would venture to say that banks lend on soft collateral when it is fed by sectors that have hard asset collateral or with a government guarantee.

IMO, get government out of everything and watch the economy drop to an economy of sustenance based on hard asset collateral which will get increasingly constrained with world population going from 7 to 9B. Exactly what rentiers LOVE!

Moneta October 22, 2016 at 8:38 am

Services are a bigger measured part of our economy. Family members on farms would do all kinds of work or services but these were not recorded.

scott 2 October 22, 2016 at 8:57 am

Debt was used to finance increases in productivity. Unless you have a sweat shop in your basement, a house is not a productive asset. It's a slowly appreciating consumer of capital, real and financial (utilities, maintainance, and taxes). In distorted markets like California, it can make a lucky few a lot of money while turning the area into a feudal system of land owners and serfs.

A side effect of financialization has been to turn the US economy into one that lives, temporarily, on housing speculation. When people realize that spending $2 million on a bungalow that should only cost $40K is the TRUE mis-allocation of capital, let's hope they don't realize that all at once.

lyman alpha blob October 22, 2016 at 10:06 am

A couple generations ago land in many places was still relatively cheap. Asked my father once how our family of dairy farmers managed to have as much land as we do and was told that my grandfather often received land as payment. He'd give someone an animal or a side of beef and they'd give him an acre they owned abutting his property that they weren't using for anything anyway. I've seen some of the old ledgers found in his attic and as you noted, cash was not just in essence but in fact used for goods at the general store. The barn itself was built with the help of the community although I'm not sure how that was paid for but I'd wager that any financing was minimal.

The economy was a few steps above just sustenance but the population was a lot less and there weren't nearly as many rich people from the city coming in looking for second (or 3rd or 4th) homes in the country driving up the cost of real estate. Two generations later land is much more dear to the point where our family likely wouldn't be able to afford to purchase property if they needed extra acreage.

There are far too many economists who seem to think that money actually does grow on trees in the sense that it's a naturally occurring resource that human beings can't control – it's all determined by markets. In that sense I'd describe money not so much as a fuel but as a weapon. I believe Jon Perkins had a similar description in his Confessions of an Economic Hitman. Weaponized war is no longer the first option among advanced economies – first they'll try to bleed other countries dry with economics. It's only when the victims won't cave that the bombs start dropping now.

But money does not occur naturally and it should not be considered a fuel or a weapon. As noted in the article it's a concept created by human beings and should be considered a very malleable tool that we can use to do pretty much whatever we as a society decide we want to with it. If we truly wanted to create a more equitable society there is nothing stopping us from doing so except the greed of the few.

John Zelnicker October 22, 2016 at 12:22 pm

@lyman alpha bob – "As noted in the article [money is] a concept created by human beings and should be considered a very malleable tool that we can use to do pretty much whatever we as a society decide we want to with it. If we truly wanted to create a more equitable society there is nothing stopping us from doing so except the greed of the few."

Adding: The Big Lie that the federal government needs tax revenue in order to operate, so we "can't afford" the social benefits that help the non-rich, must be constantly debunked and rejected.

TheCatSaid October 22, 2016 at 2:05 pm

Weaponizing money. That's a valuable concept. It reminds me of the end of David E. Martin's (true-story-called-fiction-to-avoid-lawsuits) book "The Apostles of Power". And this was the reason he wrote the book, actually–to fend off a major play to steal all the electronically-stored reserves of the Fed into their own accounts, and destroy the evidence of their actions by triggering a nuclear explosion of the precise nuclear power station that provided the power to the NYC/NJ computers that stored the data. By telling enough about the plan in process (only the minor, human-created fake "earthquake" at the Santa Ana reactor occurred, as the charges had been set before the book was published; the book predicts the "earthquake"), a nuclear disaster and major financial theft were averted.

Martin spoke about this, and the other real events described in the book, in a number of radio interviews he gave in 2012, the year the book was published.

Steve H. October 22, 2016 at 8:37 am

Not sure if this is meta or not:

"Here's the [Machine] trick: Design the machine that will produce the result your analysis indicates occurs routinely in the situation you have studied. Make sure you have included all the parts – all the social gears, cranks, belts, buttons, and other widgets – and all the specifications of materials and their qualities necessary to get the desired result."

Howard S. Becker

JTMcPhee October 22, 2016 at 8:58 am

Well, great! That part of the great discourse has been decoded and unpacked and all that, I feel much better for the personal increase in awareness of how fokked things are.

Now, how are "we" going to get billions of other humans to the same state of awareness, to stop talking about "fuel" when talking (using a gazillion other "terms of art" and memes and tropes that are similarly opaque and whitewash and FUD-laden) about "the economy" and "economics" and while generating ever more momentum for those same deadly (but profitable for the few) terms, tropes, memes and shorthands? "Profitable" being one of them, "profit" being part of the disease process, because after all, for the individual or the firm s/he belongs to, "profit" (ignoring externalities, of course) is the summum bonum that lets you buy stuff and experiences galore?

Other Juggernaut words, just a very few: "bonus", "healthcare", "entitlement", "MArket", "free trade," and a personal favorite, "donor" meaning very simply "BRIBER/corrupter" but hey, those very few squillionaires who own everything including the "political process" are described millions of times a DAY on the intertubes as "donors," "donors" to political candidates and PACs and "think tanks" (??another fave). Giving a kidney to a person with terminal kidney failure, "donating" one's corneas and body parts or those of deeply loved ones suddenly deceased, those are ""donations." Not Koch or Adelman or Soros or Gates etc. billions to "Foundations" or operas or art museums.

"We," who are Aware, perceive some of this, often argue and debate and cavil over nitty bits of those perceptions. That is so very effective, isn't it, the few hundreds or thousands of "us" who participate in or observe the Flow in NCspace, in bringing about any kind of regression to a mean that is hardly defined or maybe undefinable, a mean that might actually be "kind" and "decent" and "fair" and "just" (whatever those terms are taken to mean)?

What is to be done about it? "We" ain't either powerful or certain enough to do something like a "global search and replace" across the entire internet, with a burning of all the books and papers, and a quarantine of all the GeithnerDimonGreenspanKrugmans and their myriad of citers and followers and extenders, that carry the infection forward into the label minds of future "policy makers" who like most humans who (I am assured by others) are wired to seek dominance and pleasure and reproductive success? And who obviously are the dominant, successful vector and segment of the "political economy?"

The plagues that Pandora was tricked into loosing on "humanity" have been out there probably too long to be re-packaged. Nice effort for those who try, try and try again, but that effort seems to me mostly pissing into the wind…

griffen October 22, 2016 at 9:27 am

TINA. Sadly it's true, we appear somewhat stuck in this mode of what's working. I personally appreciate the credit union / co-op model of accomplishing financial intermediation but that is also a continuation of what we have.

Biggest problem in the US, no one competing with the FED.

Dave October 22, 2016 at 11:40 am

"some of the recent coinages, like "sharing economy" are downright Orwellian". Yes, but that phrase can be and is easily replaced in casual conversation with "the sharecropper economy". (Be prepared to deliver a short explanation what a sharecropper is to the youg 'uns.)

Another valid word out of the past is "the man," as in the giver of overpriced credit to the sharecropper who often ended up with zero profits and thus was kept in perpetual debt. Central bankers?

"The company store" is another one. Applepay?

"Papal indulgences" another. Hillary?

Word substitution is a fun game.

Dave October 22, 2016 at 11:48 am

Speaking of Big Brother, how can we forget "Thought leader"

diptherio October 22, 2016 at 12:24 pm

Everybody talks about "thought leaders" but no one ever talks about "thought followers," much less actually claims to be one. But without "thought followers" how can you have "thought leaders"? I'm suspicious….

And anyway, wouldn't "thought leader" be applicable to anybody whose thinking ends up being followed by others, for good or ill? Wouldn't Charles Manson be a "thought leader"? He certainly was for the Manson Family….just a thought…

Jeremy Grimm October 22, 2016 at 5:33 pm

I always thought the exhortation to be thought leaders was a ruse for encouraging people to speak up and try to act as thought leaders. That way those who worked us could identify the taller daisies and thereby identify which flowers to top.

Steven October 22, 2016 at 12:28 pm

Seems like some combination of Frederick Soddy and Michael Hudson is called for here. Soddy is apparently a tough slog even for otherwise intelligent people. So at the risk of over-simplification here is my attempt to convey his ideas about money and wealth:

Money is not wealth. It is a claim on wealth, i.e. debt.

Wealth. Soddy provides both a practical and a more abstract definition of (the ingredients of) wealth:

"But economics, in a national sense, is concerned with wealth as what is produced by human beings to maintain their lives.

Discovery, Natural Energy and Diligence, the Three Ingredients of Wealth

For Discovery, think research and development (R&D) and of course education so R&D is even possible. For Natural Energy, think, for most of the Industrial Revolution (IR), fossil fuels. (Pretty obviously we need to do something different if we want to keep the machine the IR built functioning, sustainably producing the wealth which sustains our civilization.)

One of my favorite passages from Soddy's "Wealth, Virtual Wealth and Debt" is:

"As Ruskin said, a logical definition of wealth is absolutely needed for the basis of economics if it is to be a science."

But without a science-based definition of wealth, i.e. continuing to use profit and money as a measure of 'productivity', just 'printing' more money (even Hudson's MMT) will solve nothing. Put these observations together and you get an idea what should 'back' money – wealth not gold or as Hudson puts it "Debts that can't be repaid (and) won't be."

Hudson's 'clean slate' provides the other part of the solution. As Hudson notes, the 'miracle of compound interest' is not sustainable – particularly when the West's 'financial engineers' are busy cranking out money (as debt) at rates well in excess of going interest rates. Just continuing to use profit and money as a measure of 'productivity', 'printing' more money (even Hudson's MMT) will solve nothing. Probably by the middle of the 20th century, the West had 'enough' wealth its people could begin to find other purposes in life than creating ever more of it (to make ever more money, i.e. acquire ever more debt to be paid by someone – the unborn?). Again from Soddy / Ruskin – real "Wealth rots." That's what's happening to the West's 'culture' as its ruling classes mindlessly attempt to acquire ever more money.

It isn't just the 1% who are going to have to take their lumps, to stop playing games with the world's future so they can, as candidate Trump put it, 'run up a bigger score' with money for which they have no immediate need. It is those of us in the 99% who do not possess the skills and aptitudes required for the genuine creation of wealth, wealth the world needs and can sustainably afford. Those numbers are going to grow as the Industrial Revolution succeeds, with human labor and rote intelligence replaced more and more by machines powered by "natural energy". But, even if we can't find our niche, I take it as a given that we are all born with a right to life.

Moneta October 22, 2016 at 1:27 pm

Wealth is hard to define because what we view as wealth might be a money pit that guarantees our decline…

For example, instead of injecting money directly in the faculty of medicine, a university might have decided to fund a football team to attract the capital and end up building a stadium… Instead of just funding the faculty.

All these activities related to the sports team contribute to GDP. The bankers might have been productive and efficient in raising capital, the coach might be productive and make a winning team, the builders of the stadium might have been very productive building a fine structure but all these activities sucked up resources and energy that could have been used by other sectors to better serve the future of the country. Maybe these activities are totally unsustainable. They might appear as wealth currently but will lead to poverty over time.

Since ou basic needs have been met, we have been investing in a forever greater number of non-essential resource intensive activities which show how disconnected we have become from the earth supporting us.

redleg October 22, 2016 at 12:50 pm

All the analogues to fuel and engines, yet nobody takes the next step to Power. Power is the key to both engines and finance.

Hudson, Black, Keen and other non-mainstream people are exceptions, but is anyone listening to them besides this choir?

Edward Morbius October 22, 2016 at 8:51 pm

"Wealth, as Mr Hobbes says, is power." Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations . It's only the second discussion (after definition) of the term in the book.

Smith doesn't get everything right, but he's considerably more savvy and left-wing, bleeding-heart liberal than he's commonly given credit for.

Les Swift October 22, 2016 at 1:13 pm

The terminology of finance is designed to hide predatory and extractive activities behind a curtain of beneficial-sounding words. These terms are deeply embedded, and serve both to put some friendly makeup on the business, and allow the "consumers" to feel better about their capitulation. The process is akin to the way politicians wrap themselves in the flag while they sell out the citizenry. We know deep down that they are lying, but we prefer the false patriotism because it serves the lies we prefer to tell ourselves. We bitch and moan, but we play our part, because not doing so leads to trouble. It is the way most of us live our lives.

One of the biggest problems people face in discussing matters financial, is that the very terminology of the system undercuts the critiques. Just as criticizing the wars invokes in some the specter of failing to support the troops and the specter of criticizing America, criticizing Wall Street's predatory aspects invokes in many the specter of criticizing institutions we have been led to believe represent the essence of American freedom. Doing so makes you at least a malcontent or troublemaker, and maybe even some sort of subversive pinko. Either way, you're rocking a boat many do not want rocked.

Using analogies and metaphors to discuss such matters can outflank the loaded-terminology question to a significant degree. You can cut through a lot of the fog of jargon by describing the activities in other terms. (E.g., Dave's "sharecropping" for "sharing economy.")

We are in an era in which the financial world is being downsized and consolidated, the giant speculative bubble which dominated most of our lives is being deflated and wound down before our eyes. There is still speculative activity, to be sure, but there is also a rise in the use of rentier income. This downsizing process involves shifting losses wherever possible down the food chain, including to institutions which previously were integral parts of the system. Insiders are finding themselves outsiders, jettisoned by other insiders.

This reminds me of the situation of a pack of wolves, grown large in an era of plentiful food, but now finding that food supply dwindling. The pack must shrink to survive, the excess members culled in often brutal ways. The strongest eat the most, the rest are left with the scraps, or nothing at all. The financial system is similar, a pack in which the herd is being culled. Individual institutions, even important ones like Barings or Lehman, are ephemeral. They come and they go, just like individual wolves in the pack. But the pack lives on, and so does the financial system. To the wolves, the pecking order, who lives and who dies, is very important. But for the creatures the pack eats, such concerns are irrelevant.

tongorad October 22, 2016 at 2:40 pm

Either way, you're rocking a boat many do not want rocked.

Perhaps. Or perhaps the alternatives to our ruling narratives and power mechanisms have been ruthlessly dismantled and extinguished. For example, I would love to join a union. But I live in a right-to-work state.

I would love to have representation at my workplace and have some degree of bargaining power. I guess there's always the complaint box. Or the "freedom" to hit the bricks.

Luckily, I went to school when it was affordable, so I don't have student loan debt. I rent, and although rents continue to rise every year, I don't have a mortgage hanging over my head.

My younger colleagues are saddled with outrageous student loan debt that they will never likely repay. Unfortunately many/most of them bought into the housing market. How likely are they to even entertain the idea of speaking truth to power?

I'm past 50, and you know what that means to my prospects of finding another job. Young and old, we just keep our mouths shut and do what we're told.

moneta October 22, 2016 at 2:44 pm

The US represents 5% of world population but consumes a much larger share of world energy and resources. The 99% are concerned about fairness but if they truly cared, they'd understand that the global economy needs to shrink their share of resources to 5%. And the leveling is getting stronger by the day. Most people go along the big lie because of hope.

Jeremy Grimm October 22, 2016 at 5:51 pm

Question about your numbers - I think our share of resources needs to shrink but I'm not sure 5% is the right number. Are some of the resources in that 5% dedicated to our Industry? Is our industry productive? and who gets the stuff? It may be we need to shrink our use of resources to 4%. And what about the who uses how much of what resources? How do you count the resources used to support our car, bus, and truck industries while deliberately stifling mass transit. I only make these quibbles to avoid your logic of proportions. Clearly we must take/steal less from the rest of the world and share what we have. I believe there is enough to go around - once a few (quite a few) problems here and there are taken care of.

I'm not sure how much hope continues to hold up the big lie. I think the supports for the big lie need a lot of maintenance to keep it from falling. Maybe we can simply stop using that road.

moneta October 22, 2016 at 6:13 pm

I don't know what the number is but from my vantage point , it looks like the western work is heading for a world of pain. Americans want America to be great again but it's based on materialism.

To be great again would mean a different kind of greatness where the economy is based on a reduction of it share of resources.

But the population is still very far away from the fact that its way of life depends on an unfair distribution of world resources which will probably lead to a big world struggle meaning a focus on the military.

This is not what I want by what I see in the horizon.

There's a reason money and fuel are in the same sentence. It's because the a nation's power depends on energy.

Vatch October 22, 2016 at 8:25 pm

It might seem trite, but if an American is patriotic, he or she will try to reduce the nation's energy use by using energy efficiently. Whether it's transportation, home heating, home cooling, or nighttime illumination, one should use the energy efficiently. Aside from the immorality of using so much more than many other people in the world, it's a way to reduce pollution and to avoid sending money to the Wahhabi nut jobs in Saudi Arabia. Plus, energy efficiency saves money!

Jeremy Grimm October 22, 2016 at 8:39 pm

I think you and I are on the same page.

Our country has the capacity to help the world get through the crises of Global Warming and the end of oil. Our country has responsibility as one of the guilty parties - one of the most most guilty in taking more than our share and sharing less than we are able or should share. The meaning of riches is best enjoyed through the sharing of those riches. In ancient times - at least in some places - that was the privilege and obligation of the rich.

I would feel deep shame for our country if it is to be remembered in the future for what it has done so far.

Orn October 22, 2016 at 1:17 pm

An alternate metaphor could be the slime mold .

knowbuddhau October 22, 2016 at 2:48 pm

Great comment, ROTL! Accords very well with my understanding of the power of metaphors, to bring into being the world stage on which we strut our stuff.

Many here at NC often comment on the quasi-religious nature of economics. I'm always struck by the conflation of the organic/natural world with mechanics. Wrongly conceiving of market forces as natural forces and so on. I think you've struck a blow against this wrong-headed mythos at its weakest point. If the metaphors that bring into being this world of pain we're living in themselves are discredited, the whole edifice could come crashing down in no time.

If anyone's interested in a little exercise, trying paying attention to the metaphors one uses for organic systems, and society at large. Even though I'm aware of their inappropriateness, it's hard not to think in mechanistic terms. And not just mechanistic, but weaponized, at that. You can't even listen to a baseball game without hearing metaphors of war all the damn time. Then there are "Twitter wars" and "Facebook wars" ad nauseaum.

I like lyman alpha blob's mention of financial warfare, too. In 2010, forensic economists found confirmation of the "economic hit man hypothesis" by studying the effectiveness of the CIA's overseas efforts wrt US exports.
http://www.slate.com/articles/business/the_dismal_science/2010/05/industrial_espionage.html

If we agree that we need a most fundamental and profound change to our ways of being in the world, our use of metaphors is a great place to start.

Wade Riddick October 22, 2016 at 6:46 pm

Money is nutrition, not a snack. It's food and fertilizer. It makes things grow. You have to share it with other life like bacteria and worms: without these organisms in your gut ecology, you get sick (autism, diabetes, obesity, M.S.). Idiots try to convince us these organisms are parasites instead of symbionts just like Monsanto thinks bees are disposable or Donald Trump likes to think of pregnant women as drags on business profits.

Where does he propose business find future workers if not in wombs? From where will his future customers come?

Perhaps in sharing economy of future America, companies will have to share their dwindling customers and make do with less?

If you think altruism is for suckers, your Ayn Rand economy collapses because you confuse parasites with symbionts and symbionts with parasites. You can't distinguish between compensation for earned and unearned income. What's a tax and what's theft? Try living without bacteria making butyrate in your gut. Wells Fargo can no more survive without little people like airport janitors to scrub out the TB and Ebola stains than our cells can breathe without mitochondria. Yet who gets their pay driven down in corporate America?

Money weaves a supporting web of trust, a mutual network of obligations and payments – and what happens biologically when that web inside us is broken and friends become enemies and we treat enemies as friends? Is fraud any different than autoimmunity or cancer?

readerOfTeaLeaves October 22, 2016 at 7:16 pm

Well, I was gobsmacked to see this show up when I finally logged on to the Internet today. Many heartfelt thanks to all who commented so thoughtfully and insightfully; and also to the remarkable NC crew (Yves, Lambert, Jerri-Lynn, the IT folks), as well of course to Clive.

I think that we are all rooting for the time when Haldane's insights are met with 'Doh', and when we celebrate Bill Black as a Nobel in Economics ;-)

[Sep 27, 2016] DeLong on helicopter money

Sep 27, 2016 | economistsview.typepad.com

Peter K. : September 27, 2016 at 06:45 AM DeLong on helicopter money: "The swelling wave of argument and discussion around "helicopter money" has two origins:

First, as Harvard's Robert Barro says: there has been no recovery since 2010.

The unemployment rate here in the U.S. has come down, yes. But the unemployment rate has come down primarily because people who were unemployed have given up and dropped out of the labor force. Shrinkage in the share of people unemployed has been a distinctly secondary factor. Moreover, the small increase in the share of people with jobs has been neutralized, as far as its effects on how prosperous we are, by much slower productivity growth since 2010 than America had previously seen, had good reason to anticipate, and deserves.

The only bright spot is a relative one: things in other rich countries are even worse.
..."

I thought Krugman and Furman were bragging about Obama's tenure.

"Now note that back in 1936 [John Maynard Keynes had disagreed][]:

"The State will have to exercise a guiding influence... partly by fixing the rate of interest, and partly, perhaps, in other ways.... It seems unlikely that the influence of banking policy on the rate of interest will be sufficient by itself.... I conceive, therefore, that a somewhat comprehensive socialisation of investment will prove the only means of securing an approximation to full employment; though this need not exclude all manner of compromises and of devices by which public authority will co-operate with private initiative..."

By the 1980s, however, for Keynes himself the long run had come, and he was dead. The Great Moderation of the business cycle from 1984-2007 was a rich enough pudding to be proof, for the rough consensus of mainstream economists at least, that Keynes had been wrong and Friedman had been right.

But in the aftermath of 2007 it became very clear that they-or, rather, we, for I am certainly one of the mainstream economists in the roughly consensus-were very, tragically, dismally and grossly wrong."

DeLong sounds very much left rather than center-left. His reasons for supporting Hillary over Sanders eludes me.

Hillary's $275 billion over 5 years is substantially too small as center-leftist Krugman put it.

Now we face a choice:

Do we accept economic performance that all of our predecessors would have characterized as grossly subpar-having assigned the Federal Reserve and other independent central banks a mission and then kept from them the policy tools they need to successfully accomplish it?

Do we return the task of managing the business cycle to the political branches of government-so that they don't just occasionally joggle the elbows of the technocratic professionals but actually take on a co-leading or a leading role?

Or do we extend the Federal Reserve's toolkit in a structured way to give it the tools it needs?

Helicopter money is an attempt to choose door number (3). Our intellectual adversaries mostly seek to choose door number (1)-and then to tell us that the "cold douche", as Schumpeter put it, of unemployment will in the long run turn out to be good medicine, for some reason or other. And our intellectual adversaries mostly seek to argue that in reality there is no door number (3)-that attempts to go through it will rob central banks of their independence and wind up with us going through door number (2), which we know ends badly..."

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Some commenters believe more fiscal policy via Congress is politically more realistic than helicopter money.

I don't know, maybe they're right. I do know Hillary's proposals are too small. And her aversion to government debt and deficit is wrong given the economic context and market demand for safe assets.

Some pundits like Krugman believe helicopter money won't be that effective "because the models tell him." We should try it and find out. Reply Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 06:45 AM

reason -> Peter K.... , Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 08:40 AM

"Moreover, the small increase in the share of people with jobs has been neutralized, as far as its effects on how prosperous we are, by much slower productivity growth since 2010 than America had previously seen, had good reason to anticipate, and deserves."

?????? The rate of (measured) productivity growth is not all that important. What has happened to real median income.

And why are quoting from Robert Barro who is basically a freshwater economist. Couldn't you find somebody sensible?

pgl -> reason ... , Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 09:08 AM
Barro wants us to believe we have been at full employment all along. Of course that would mean any increase in aggregate demand would only cause inflation. Of course many of us think Barro lost it years ago.

These little distinctions are alas lost on PeterK.

Peter K. -> pgl... , Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 01:05 PM
run a long stupid troll.

Go read some hack Republican analyses.

Peter K. -> reason ... , Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 01:06 PM
DeLong is quoting Barro.
Paine -> Peter K.... , Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 09:57 AM
Really it's Delong on the context that has produced a return to HM fantasies

I'm sure u agree

He doesn't endorse HM in this post does he ?

Peter K. -> Paine ... , Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 01:09 PM
Sounds to me like he does:

"Now we face a choice:

[1] Do we accept economic performance that all of our predecessors would have characterized as grossly subpar-having assigned the Federal Reserve and other independent central banks a mission and then kept from them the policy tools they need to successfully accomplish it?

[2] Do we return the task of managing the business cycle to the political branches of government-so that they don't just occasionally joggle the elbows of the technocratic professionals but actually take on a co-leading or a leading role?

[3] Or do we extend the Federal Reserve's toolkit in a structured way to give it the tools it needs?

Helicopter money is an attempt to choose door number (3). Our intellectual adversaries mostly seek to choose door number (1)-and then to tell us that the "cold douche", as Schumpeter put it, of unemployment will in the long run turn out to be good medicine, for some reason or other. And our intellectual adversaries mostly seek to argue that in reality there is no door number (3)-that attempts to go through it will rob central banks of their independence and wind up with us going through door number (2), which we know ends badly...""

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Conservatives want 1 and 2 ends badly, so 3 is the only choice.

[Apr 17, 2016] Towards a Theory of Shadow Money by Daniela Gabor

Notable quotes:
"... Minsky famously quipped that everyone can create new money; the problem is to get it accepted as such by others. ..."
"... But even money-proper is not the same for everyone. Central banks create the money in which banks pay each other, while private banks create money for households and firms. Money is hierarchical , and moneyness is a question of immediate convertibility without loss of value (at par exchange, on demand). ..."
"... To convert shadow money into settlement money in case of default, repo lenders sell collateral. An intricate collateral valuation regime, consisting of haircuts, mark-to-market, and margin calls, maintains collateral's exchange rate into (central) bank money. ..."
"... What makes repos money – at par exchange between "cash" and collateral – is what makes finance more fragile in a Minskyan sense. ..."
"... Liquid markets become more fragile, he argued, by giving investors the "illusion" that they can exit before prices turn against them. This is a crucial insight for crises of shadow money. ..."
"... Criminality and corruption is embedded at the top of the financial food chain, by law. ..."
"... Motion seconded: Government sanctioned counterfeiting. ..."
"... …and does anyone remember the triumph of the desk slaves of the Crimson Permanent Assurance? Monty Python understood something about political economies and how one might achieve more fairness in outcomes… https://vimeo.com/111458975 ..."
"... Shadow money sounds to me like fictional capital by another name. And contractual based deposits sounds like counterfeiting. With the distinction that the man with counterfeit printing press robs the train, while the man who runs the Wall St Investment bank repo trading desk robs the whole railroad. ..."
"... Therefore, Money becomes a victim of the ontological argument for God by St Anselm. If God does not exist, an all powerful, all knowing, all present infinitely great in all categories of Supreme Being could not be written or spoken about, lacking the quality of existence. The fact that we CAN speak about an Omnipotent Supreme Deity means that one in fact exists, due to existence is part and parcel of Omnipotence. But of course, because we can talk or write about something, does not make it real. ..."
"... It can become socially acceptable as in the case of shadow money, but it is fictional capital, a shadow of the real thing. Time to get out of the cave of finance with its shadows dancing from the light of the fires and walk eyes wide open in the bright light of sunshine! ..."
"... Money is actually the easiest thing to write about, because it's formless energy. It's not that the phenomenon is shadow money, it's shadow assets. ..."
"... You have to be able to separate in your mind the ideas of 1) Quantity and 2) Form. That's why economics is a mental disorder, because it doesn't separate quantity and form. If you can't or don't, then yes, it's diabolically hard to write about because you're writing about two different things simultaneously without realizing it. Money is a quantity that is infinite and continuous, but form is an idea that is discontinuous and finite. People do what the forms tell them to do. The money is just like electricity that powers the animation of the forms. Repo is a form it's not money. It's existence results in a certain ordering of social relations, that's also a form. But money is just the energy that makes the forms potent. ..."
"... I guess that's why they used to call it "political economy" before the mental disorder fully usurped the power of perception and reasoning. ..."
"... Marx failed to acknowledge that supposedly hard-headed Capitalism is actually all about living beyond your means and mortgaging the future. ..."
"... It was designed from the Fuggars' and the Medici's to be about debt and fractional reserves and interest. A system based on a finite supply of money is going to grow not much faster, at best, than the money available allows. ..."
"... Capitalism allows explosive growth by supplying explosive amounts of credit. All this shadow banking activity is designed to get around reserve requirements; nothing else I can see calls all this complexity into existence. The banks always need more, because lending is how they make their money, so they want an infinite amount to lend in order to drive their profits towards the infinite. ..."
"... This article I think defines shadow money alright as starting where bank deposits leave off but as the above comments suggest seems to miss some key points. I think a major problem with the article is seeing central banks as separate from the state rather than seeing the central bank along with the Treasury as the state itself. ..."
"... The article gets Treasury debt wrong by seeing it as the central bank funding the state rather than as actually coming from the state. This leads to wrong policy choices such as this state money being used to bail out useless financial transactions and asset appreciation rather than the public purpose. I think crazyman has it right. We left behind the power of perception and reasoning by not realizing the importance of political economy . ..."
"... This is reminscent of Gramsci's idea that the state and civil society are to be distinguished only for purposes of exposition. ..."
April 16, 2016 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

By Daniela Gabor, associate professor in economics at the University of the West of England, Bristol, and Jakob Vestergaard, senior researcher at the Danish Institute for International Studies. Originally published at the Institute for New Economic Thinking website

Struggles over shadow money today echo 19th century struggles over bank deposits.

Money, James Buchan once noted , "is diabolically hard to write about." It has been described as a promise to pay, a social relation, frozen desire , memory, and fiction. Less daunted, Hyman Minsky was interested by promises of unknown and changing properties . "Shadow" promises would have fascinated him. Indeed, Perry Mehrling, Zoltan Pozsar , and others argue that in shadow banking, money begins where bank deposits end. Their insights are the starting point for the first paper of our Institute for New Economic Thinking project on shadow money. The footprint of shadow money, we argue,* extends well beyond opaque shadow banking, reaching into government bond markets and regulated banks. It radically changes central banking and the state's relationship to money-issuing institutions.

Minsky famously quipped that everyone can create new money; the problem is to get it accepted as such by others. General acceptability relies on the strength of promises to exchange for proper money, money that settles debts. Banks' special role in money creation, Victoria Chick reminds us, was sealed by states' commitment that bank deposits would convert into state money (cash) at par. This social contract of convertibility materialized in bank regulation, lender of last resort, and deposit guarantees.

But even money-proper is not the same for everyone. Central banks create the money in which banks pay each other, while private banks create money for households and firms. Money is hierarchical , and moneyness is a question of immediate convertibility without loss of value (at par exchange, on demand).

Using a money hierarchy lens, we define shadow money as repurchase agreements (repos), promises to pay backed by tradable collateral. It is the presence of collateral that confers shadow money its distinctiveness. Our approach advances the debate in several ways.

First, it allows us to establish a clear picture of modern money hierarchies. Repos are nearest to money-proper, stronger in their moneyness claims than other short-term shadow liabilities . Repos rose in money hierarchies as finance sidestepped the state, developing its own convertibility rules over the past 20 years. To convert shadow money into settlement money in case of default, repo lenders sell collateral. An intricate collateral valuation regime, consisting of haircuts, mark-to-market, and margin calls, maintains collateral's exchange rate into (central) bank money.

Second, we put banks at the center of shadow-money creation. The growing shadow-money literature, however original in its insights, downplays banks' activities in the shadows because its empirical terrain is U.S. shadow banking with its institutional peculiarities. There, hedge funds issue shadow money to institutional cash pools via the balance sheet of securities dealers. In Europe or China , it's also banks issuing shadow money to other banks to fund capital market activities. LCH Clearnet SA, a pure shadow bank, offers a glimpse into this world. Like a bank, it backs money issuance with central bank (Banque de France) money. Unlike a bank, LCH Clearnet only issues shadow money.

Third, we explore the critical role of the state beyond simple guarantor of convertibility. Like bank money, shadow money relies on sovereign structures of authority and credit worthiness. Shadow money is mostly issued against government bond collateral, because liquid securities make repo convertibility easier and cheaper. The legal right to re-use (re-hypothecate) collateral allows various (shadow) banks to issue shadow money against the same government bond, which becomes akin to a base asset with "velocity." Limits to velocity place demands on the state to issue debt, not because it needs cash but because shadow money issuers need collateral.

With finance ministries unresponsive to such demands, we note two points in the historical development of shadow money in the early 2000s. In the United States, persuasive lobbying exploited concerns that U.S. Treasury debt would fall to dangerously low levels to relax regulation on repos collateralized with asset and mortgage-backed securities . In Europe, the ECB used the mechanics of monetary policy implementation to the same end. When it lent reserves to banks via repos, the ECB used its collateral valuation practices to generate base-asset privileges for "periphery" government bonds, treating these as perfect substitutes for German government bonds, with the explicit intention of powering market liquidity.

Fourth, we introduce fundamental uncertainty in modern money creation. What makes repos money – at par exchange between "cash" and collateral – is what makes finance more fragile in a Minskyan sense. Knightian uncertainty bites harder and faster because convertibility depends on collateral-market liquidity.

The collateral valuation regime that makes repos increasingly acceptable ties securities-market liquidity into appetite for leverage. Here, Keynes' concerns with the social benefits of private liquidity become relevant. Keynes voiced strong doubts about the idea of "the more liquidity the better" in stock markets (concerns now routinely voiced by central banks for securities markets). Liquid markets become more fragile, he argued, by giving investors the "illusion" that they can exit before prices turn against them. This is a crucial insight for crises of shadow money.

A promise backed by tradable collateral remains acceptable as long as lenders trust that collateral can be converted into settlement money at the agreed exchange rate. The need for liquidity may become systemic once collateral falls in market value, as repo issuers must provide additional collateral or cash to maintain at par. If forced to sell assets, collateral prices sink lower, creating a liquidity spiral . Converting shadow money is akin to climbing a ladder that is gradually sinking: The faster one climbs, the more it sinks.

Note that sovereign collateral does not always stop the sinking, outside the liquid world of U.S. Treasuries. Rather, states can be dragged down with their shadow-money issuing institutions. As Bank of England showed , when LCH Clearnet tightened the terms on which it would hold shadow money backed with Irish and Portuguese sovereign collateral, it made the sovereign debt crisis worse. Europe had its crisis of shadow money, less visible than the Lehman Brothers demise, but no less painful. "Whatever it takes" was a promise to save the "shadow" euro with a credible commitment to support sovereign collateral values.

Shadow money also constrains the macroeconomic policy options available to the state. That's because what makes shadow liabilities money also greatly complicates its stabilization: it requires a radical re-think of many powerful ideas about money and central banking. The first point, persuasively made by Perry Mehrling , and more recently by Bank of England , is that central banks need a (well-designed) framework to backstop markets , not only institutions . Collateralized debt relationships can withstand a systemic need for liquidity if holders of shadow money are confident that collateral values will not drop sharply, forcing margin calls and fire sales. Yet such overt interventions raise serious moral hazard issues.

Less well understood is that central banks need to rethink lender of last resort. Their collateral framework can perversely destabilize shadow money. Central banks cannot mitigate convertibility risk for shadow money when they use the same fragile convertibility practices. Rather, central banks should lend unsecured or without seeking to preserve collateral parity.

We suggest that the state, as base-asset issuer, becomes a de facto shadow central bank. Its fiscal policy stance and debt management matter for the pace of (shadow) credit expansion and for financial stability. Yet, unlike the central bank, the state has no means to stabilize shadow money or protect itself from its fragility. It has to rely on its central bank, caught in turn between independence and shadow money (in)stability, which may require direct interventions in government bond markets.

The bigger task that follows from our analysis, is to define the social contract between the three key institutions involved in shadow money: the state as base collateral issuer, the central bank, and private finance. In the new FSB or Basel III provisions, we are witnessing a struggle over shadow money with many echoes from the long struggle over bank money. The more radical options, such as disentangling sovereign collateral from shadow money, were never contemplated in regulatory circles. Even a partial disentanglement has proven difficult because states depend on repo markets to support liquidity in government bond markets. Our next step, then, will be to map how the crisis has altered the contours of the state's relation to the shadow money supply, comparing the cases of the U.S., the Eurozone, and China.

cnchal , April 16, 2016 at 4:10 am

Financial anarchy is my interpretation of shadow banking.

. . . The legal right to re-use (re-hypothecate) collateral allows various (shadow) banks to issue shadow money against the same government bond , which becomes akin to a base asset with "velocity." Limits to velocity place demands on the state to issue debt, not because it needs cash but because shadow money issuers need collateral .
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The bigger task that follows from our analysis, is to define the social contract between the three key institutions involved in shadow money: the state as base collateral issuer, the central bank, and private finance .

Who does shadow banking serve? It is so far from capitalism, it should be illegal.

Bernie Sanders: The business of Wall Street is fraud and greed.

Robert Coutinho , April 16, 2016 at 7:32 am

Well…yes and no. There is real "need" for some shadow banking services. However, the idea of having Central Banks (issuers of money, or whatever) loaning based on … nothing?

Less well understood is that central banks need to rethink lender of last resort. Their collateral framework can perversely destabilize shadow money. Central banks cannot mitigate convertibility risk for shadow money when they use the same fragile convertibility practices. Rather, central banks should lend unsecured or without seeking to preserve collateral parity.

"Europe had its crisis of shadow money, less visible than the Lehman Brothers demise, but no less painful. "Whatever it takes" was a promise to save the "shadow" euro with a credible commitment to support sovereign collateral values."

Yes, but Lehman was not a taxing authority (although to be fair, Ireland et.al. were not money-issuing sources).

I am having a hard time understanding all of this–but as far as I can tell, the authors are basically suggesting that sovereign governments should be backing up the shadow banking system. However, I have not seen them suggest any reason for it except that the entire house of cards could come falling down. Boo hoo for the banksters–tell them to do things out of the "shadows".

Jujeb , April 16, 2016 at 4:20 am

Why is there a need for 'shadow money' in the first place?
Afaik, banks create money when they loan and central banks(especially the Fed) issues the most secure assets, their securities, which are used as collateral.

abynormal , April 16, 2016 at 7:44 am

Thanks Yves for sharing Gabor…what a Mess! towards the end of 2012 the US shadow banking was said to be around 67 Trillion …did something get baked-in? 2014 the IMF has a much smaller 'account'…(Japan being the worst laughing stock). the gaps are no small detail:

The IMF's latest Global Financial Stability Report analyzes the growth in shadow banking in recent years in both advanced and emerging market economies and the risks involved.

According to the report, shadow banking amounts to between 15 and 25 trillion dollars in the United States, between 13.5 and 22.5 trillion in the euro area, and between 2.5 and 6 trillion in Japan-depending on the measure- and around 7 trillion in emerging markets. In emerging markets, its growth is outpacing that of the traditional banking system. https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/survey/so/2014/pol100114a.htm

Stephen Verchinski , April 16, 2016 at 9:34 am

That sure seems a Rx for destabilizing the world currencies to precipitate a collapse. Track and publicize the visits of Congressmen and Senators to the BIS and COL to start. Why are they making these visits under cover? Who are they meeting with? Are they being prepared as to what to expect a deliberate world currency crash? . Our political elite are so beholden to the bankers to allow for the theft of the wealth of nations for unattainable expanding growth and skimming of millions. Is it possible in regard the corporate banks to have the strings attached on the use of shadow money at time of chartering or in the case of the do over at time of bankruptcy?. How is this done? I'd also like to know a good proposal for the private investment boutique banks. Have any bills at state and federal levels been proposed and if not, why not? What would the main sections of such a bill look like. Thanks.

ke, April 16, 2016 at 8:04 am

A derivative promise made by a Wall Street prostitute, ultimately contingent upon the ability to liquidate the very users of the instrument, with currency debasement, and war to restock.

Paying people to buy stuff from others being paid to buy stuff, with the full faith and credit of dependent seniors in a collapsing actuarial ponzi, with nothing more than made for TV mercenaries, isn't likely to end well.

Craps, the bank moves to the next suckers, with nothing more than the promise of an exotic vacation, billed to someone else.

Steve H. , April 16, 2016 at 9:27 am

– Limits to velocity place demands on the state to issue debt, not because it needs cash but because shadow money issuers need collateral.

There's a dirty linchpin. Even if the diabolical multiplier from cnchal's quote were removed, and the dollar was hard-pinned to a pound of silver to pay the sheriff with, infinite debt issuance can step in to the feed the hungry beast.

Promises to pay kept mercenaries in line during the city-states. If you didn't win you didn't get paid. Unless you turned around and took your employers gold instead. Which is a bit like capturing the central banks.

Still, debt can be put to good uses. Infrastructure, maybe. Basic necessities and health. 'When the people are strong, the nation is strong.' Instead, the gearing seem like the machine in Princess Bride, sucking time from peoples lives.

Watt4Bob , April 16, 2016 at 10:06 am

With regard to velocity;

Ask any highway patrolman, the faster the speed limit, the worse the accidents.

On the famed autobahns of Europe, the no speed limit means that when an accident occurs, the results are likely to be catastrophic.

And I really love the observation that central banks need a mechanism to backstop the market.

Reminds me of the main problem with the famous Vincent Black Shadow motorcycle, it could attain speeds close to 200 mph, but brake designs at the time didn't work at those speeds, so as Hunter S. Thompson remarked;

"If you rode the Black Shadow at top speed for any length of time, you would almost certainly die."

Wall $treet wants to go fast, the faster the better, but they haven't got any brakes, and worse than that, we're all along for the ride whether we like it or not.

Jim Haygood , April 16, 2016 at 2:04 pm

Richard Thompson got it too:

Oh, says Red Molly to James, "That's a fine motorbike
A girl could feel special on any such like"
Says James to Red Molly, "My hat's off to you
It's a Vincent Black Lightning, 1952"

[James gets shot in a robbery]

When she came to the hospital, there wasn't much left
He was running out of road, he was running out of breath
But he smiled to see her cry
And said I'll give you my Vincent to ride

Oh, he reached for her hand then he slipped her the keys
He said, "I've got no further use for these
I see angels on Ariels, in leather and chrome
Swooping down from heaven to carry me home"

And he gave her one last kiss and died
And he gave her his Vincent to ride

It was sorta like that when Bernanke handed J-Yel the keys to his QE penny farthing bike.

Watt4Bob , April 17, 2016 at 9:09 am

I'd flesh out that analogy a bit;

The Bernanke and J-Yel witnessed the header that Greenspan took on that bike, and decided to leave it standing against the wall. When you consider the fact that neither of them could reach the pedals, let alone mount the thing and ride, that was probably a good idea.

Chauncey Gardiner , April 16, 2016 at 10:53 am

When did the central banks' framework to backstop markets morph into an organized effort to push the value of repo collateral relentlessly upward forever?…

What about increasing the relentless decline in the Velocity of Money by gradually increasing interest rates? Yes, that might be a catalyst to trigger a "liquidity spiral". So what? We now have moral hazard in spades and at some point will have to cross the Rubicon, whether willingly or not.

washunate , April 16, 2016 at 11:38 am

Here's a simple theory: Shadow banking is government approved fraud.

cnchal, April 16, 2016 at 12:07 pm

i am reading one of the links from the post titled "Regulating money creation after the crisis", and it's even worse than government approved fraud. I am only part way through it, but here is a gem.

On page 10

. . . Instead, OLA was designed to preserve the value of the assets of failed financial firms until they are liquidated, a worthy aim, but a very different one. At the same time, the Dodd-Frank Act has imposed significant new limitations on the government's freestanding panic-fighting tools . These limitations, absent future congressional action, would render next to impossible the kind of aggressive government rescue operation that was staged during the recent crisis.

Criminality and corruption is embedded at the top of the financial food chain, by law.

Paul Tioxon , April 16, 2016 at 2:20 pm

Motion seconded: Government sanctioned counterfeiting.

Keith , April 16, 2016 at 11:54 am

Before we complicate the issue, it is fairly obvious no one understands conventional money and it is one of the best kept secrets on the planet.

Learn how normal money works and how its mismanagement has led to many of today's problems.

Banks create money out of nothing to allow you to buy things with loans and mortgages (fractional reserve banking).

After years of lobbying the reserve required is often as good as nothing. Mortgages can be obtained with the reserve contained in the fee.

After the financial crisis there were found to be £1.25 in reserves for every £100 issued on credit in the UK.

Having no reserve shouldn't be a problem with prudent lending.

Creating money out of nothing is the service they really provide to let you spend your own future income now.

They charge interest to cover their costs, for the risk involved and the service they provide.
Your repayments in the future, pay back the money they created out of nothing.

The asset bought covers them if you default, they will repossess it and sell it to recover the rest of the debt unpaid.

At the end all is back to square one.

The bank has received the interest for its service.

You have paid for the asset you have bought plus the interest to the bank for its service of letting you use your own money from the future.

Today's massive debt load is all money borrowed from the future for things already bought.

It can also go wrong another way, when banks lend into asset bubbles that collapse very quickly. The repossessed asset doesn't cover the outstanding debt and money gets destroyed on the banks balance sheets.

When banks lend in large amounts, on margin, into stock markets, the bust shreds their balance sheets (1929).

When banks lend in large amounts on mortgages into housing markets, the bust shreds their balance sheets (2008).

If banks don't lend prudently you are in trouble.

Then they developed securitisation …… oh dear (no need to lend prudently now).

Housing booms and busts around the world …… oh dear.

All that money borrowed from the future and already spent …… oh dear.

susan the other , April 16, 2016 at 12:16 pm

This is so interesting. It seems to be approaching the subject that Wray speculated about a while back – that we should give central banks fiscal responsibility. Because otherwise a sovereign state has no control over its sovereign money? It seems to me that money itself becomes a rehypothecated asset by virtue of being invested over and over again – if it is well allocated and under good fiscal control all is well. If not we get the Great Recession.

So let the state become the defacto shadow central bank so it had direct control of its own money. Instead of hanging on to the old gold standard mindset of top down management, why not think of people, not collateral, as the root of the system – the grass roots. How much money does a system – a sovereign country – need per person. And then establish a sovereign central bank to deal directly, bringing the shadows into the sunlight of fiscal control.

JTHcPhee , April 16, 2016 at 12:35 pm

…and does anyone remember the triumph of the desk slaves of the Crimson Permanent Assurance? Monty Python understood something about political economies and how one might achieve more fairness in outcomes… https://vimeo.com/111458975

Paul Tioxon , April 16, 2016 at 12:38 pm

Moneyness, like doggitas, you just can't scratch behind its ears. If shadow money is distinguished by its relationship to collateral, as opposed to money issued by the state, with the entire human enterprise of civilization as its basis, it still seems to me that at the top of the money hierarchy is fiat money, the real money by the real social order empowered by the social forms of power that sustain human life in all of its aspects, not just the financial conveniences. Shadow money sounds to me like fictional capital by another name. And contractual based deposits sounds like counterfeiting. With the distinction that the man with counterfeit printing press robs the train, while the man who runs the Wall St Investment bank repo trading desk robs the whole railroad. Am I right or Am I right. What a bunch of Losers!!!

And if there is any doubt about the fictional quality of $Trillions and $ Trillions of dollars, physicists can not find anything naturally occurring in the universe beyond billions and billions. Money, simply a numbered record, a counting or cardinal number, transforms into money in name only, MINO, when it refers to fictional amount that can only appear contractually as words, and do not count how much economic activity or output has been produced.

Therefore, Money becomes a victim of the ontological argument for God by St Anselm. If God does not exist, an all powerful, all knowing, all present infinitely great in all categories of Supreme Being could not be written or spoken about, lacking the quality of existence. The fact that we CAN speak about an Omnipotent Supreme Deity means that one in fact exists, due to existence is part and parcel of Omnipotence. But of course, because we can talk or write about something, does not make it real.

It can become socially acceptable as in the case of shadow money, but it is fictional capital, a shadow of the real thing. Time to get out of the cave of finance with its shadows dancing from the light of the fires and walk eyes wide open in the bright light of sunshine!

craazyman , April 16, 2016 at 12:43 pm

I don't know about this one. It seems to me to be some pretty queasy thinking. It kind of wanders around in circles of confusion. "my existence led by confusion boats, mutiny from stern to bow".

That's pretty funny somebody would say that money is diabolically hard to write about. That's pretty funny.

Money is actually the easiest thing to write about, because it's formless energy. It's not that the phenomenon is shadow money, it's shadow assets.

You have to be able to separate in your mind the ideas of 1) Quantity and 2) Form. That's why economics is a mental disorder, because it doesn't separate quantity and form. If you can't or don't, then yes, it's diabolically hard to write about because you're writing about two different things simultaneously without realizing it. Money is a quantity that is infinite and continuous, but form is an idea that is discontinuous and finite. People do what the forms tell them to do. The money is just like electricity that powers the animation of the forms. Repo is a form it's not money. It's existence results in a certain ordering of social relations, that's also a form. But money is just the energy that makes the forms potent.

The primary challenge is to come up with an ordered way of thinking about the forms themselves. That's frankly not easy. The ideal would be to understand them in the manner in which Euclid understood geometrical ideas. If you can get the vision, then you can see all the possibilities for structure and ordered relationships. there's really no triangle in reality and there's no point and there's no line and there's no plane. They just made them up to approximate physical reality. Then they thought to themselves "Holy shit! These ideas interrelated in an astounding range of symmetries and causations." Then they became a lens or a framework through which physical reality was interpreted. But they didn't confuse the idea of "number" with the idea of "triangle" or "circle".

Certainly in math the algebraic interpretation doesn't rely completely on the geometrical interpretation. But if there is no geometrical interpretation and it's only algebra, then so much is missing, so much is lost. I guess that's why they used to call it "political economy" before the mental disorder fully usurped the power of perception and reasoning.

susan the other , April 16, 2016 at 2:18 pm

lovely to read you

Watt4Bob , April 17, 2016 at 8:58 am

Certainly in math the algebraic interpretation doesn't rely completely on the geometrical interpretation. But if there is no geometrical interpretation and it's only algebra, then so much is missing, so much is lost.

With that firmly in mind, I think it's necessary to mention the fact that the " study " of "economics" relies on calculus, wherein we are introduced to the notion of change over time, volume, motion, acceleration, rates of change, vectors, etc.

Algebra and geometry are, as you point out, obvious abstractions, but once you add volume motion, and rates of change, the models become very seductive, and it's easy to see how one can be convinced that they are approaching an understanding of 'reality'.

The trouble is of course, that the egg-heads busy trying to describe economic "reality" with calculus, are, for the most part in the employ of savages who will forever cling to a simple arithmetic where their only interest is in "having it all".

Genius employed to make excuses for demented indifference.

Jim Haygood , April 16, 2016 at 1:27 pm

'Central banks should lend unsecured … we suggest that the state, as base-asset issuer, becomes a de facto shadow central bank.' - Daniela "Zsa Zsa" Gabor

This statement desperately needs Walter Bagehot's qualifications: "to solvent institutions" and "at a penalty rate."

Otherwise, we're just talking about another squalid round of "TARP for Jamie," as we peasants reach for our pitchforks.

cnchal , April 16, 2016 at 2:07 pm

Bagehot, eh.

It should however be pointed out that the idea of shadow banking is not remotely new. The concept was presaged well over a century ago by Walter Bagehot, the legendary English banker, essayist, and theorist. In 1873, Bagehot wrote Lombard Street: A Description of the Money Market, his canonical work on the money market and central banking. In it, he observed that the great London banks were accompanied by a parallel set of financial firms, known as "bill brokers," which in many ways resembled modern-day securities dealers. Like today's dealers, these bill-brokers financed themselves with borrowings that, Bagehot informs us, were "repayable at demand, or at very short notice."

Formally speaking these firms were not banks but to Bagehot they might as well be. "The London bill brokers," he observes, "do much the same [as banks]. Indeed, they are only a special sort of bankers who allow daily interest on deposits, and who for most of their money give security [i.e., collateral]. But we have no concern now with these differences of detail." At times, Bagehot is careful to note that the short-term obligations of bill-brokers were not technically deposits; he observes that the maturing of these liabilities "is not indeed a direct withdrawal of money on deposit," although "its principal effect is identical."

Other times, however, Bagehot dispenses even with this distinction: "It was also most natural that the bill-brokers should become, more or less, bankers too, and should receive money on deposit without giving any security for it." Here we have an unambiguous identification of the shadow banking phenomenon about 140 years ago .

Bas , April 16, 2016 at 1:30 pm

it's all been reduced to gambling with no meaningful value in "The House" to back it up. Money will disappear, like in Star Trek.

fresno dan , April 16, 2016 at 1:36 pm

I would posit that there are two types of money
A – money of the 0.001% – if they walk into a casino, real estate transaction, or any asset for that matter they can NOMINALLY lose money – in fact the 0.001% NEVER lose any of THEIR money, they just lose your money. All winnings, of anybody doing anything anywhere, belong to them.
B – money of everybody else – this money nominally is yours to do with as you see fit, but it ALL belongs to the 0.001%. The collateral that backs it up is everything you earn and own and when necessary your, and your family's, internal organs…

Jamie , April 16, 2016 at 4:46 pm

"The nation [England] was not a penny poorer by the bursting of these soap bubbles of nominal money capital. All these securities actually represent nothing but accumulated claims, legal titles to future production. Their money or capital value either does not represent capital at all … or is determined independently of the real capital value they represent."

– Marx
Banking Capital's Component Parts
Capital: Volume Three

James Levy , April 17, 2016 at 6:07 am

Marx failed to acknowledge that supposedly hard-headed Capitalism is actually all about living beyond your means and mortgaging the future.

It was designed from the Fuggars' and the Medici's to be about debt and fractional reserves and interest. A system based on a finite supply of money is going to grow not much faster, at best, than the money available allows.

Capitalism allows explosive growth by supplying explosive amounts of credit. All this shadow banking activity is designed to get around reserve requirements; nothing else I can see calls all this complexity into existence. The banks always need more, because lending is how they make their money, so they want an infinite amount to lend in order to drive their profits towards the infinite.

Sy Krass , April 16, 2016 at 10:41 pm

A sovereign can create its own currency, but theoretically couldn't it create any currency? Couldn't Greece for example click a few key boards put some ones and zeros in and say, "oh our account with $1,000,000 US is actually $10,000,000,000 US?

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

financial matters , April 17, 2016 at 5:49 am

This article I think defines shadow money alright as starting where bank deposits leave off but as the above comments suggest seems to miss some key points. I think a major problem with the article is seeing central banks as separate from the state rather than seeing the central bank along with the Treasury as the state itself.

The article gets Treasury debt wrong by seeing it as the central bank funding the state rather than as actually coming from the state. This leads to wrong policy choices such as this state money being used to bail out useless financial transactions and asset appreciation rather than the public purpose. I think crazyman has it right. We left behind the power of perception and reasoning by not realizing the importance of political economy.

Lambert Strether, April 17, 2016 at 7:22 am

This is reminscent of Gramsci's idea that the state and civil society are to be distinguished only for purposes of exposition.

ewmayer, April 17, 2016 at 4:45 pm

Some issues with the piece and questions for the authors (and fellow NCers):

I really wish such analyses would use the more-precise term "credit-money" in reference to money creation by banks, to distinguish it from government money creation, which similarly may have repayment requirements attached (bonds), but need not be so. The "need not be so" may occur via outright fiat emission, but more commonly appears in form of a public debt stock which continually increases with time, at least in nominal terms.

The legal right to re-use (re-hypothecate) collateral allows various (shadow) banks to issue shadow money against the same government bond, which becomes akin to a base asset with "velocity."

Fine, but what about that other crucial element of modern bank credit-money creation, leverage? Are there any practical limits on shadow banks' issuance of multiple units of shadow money against the same government-bond money unit? If so, how are they enforced (if at all)? Note also the key concept of "implied leverage" inherent in such schemes, where the leverage ratio may fluctuate drastically with the mark-to-market valuation of the collateral. Banks play endless games with "fictional reserves"; it would be naive to imagine that non-bank shadow lenders don't do similarly with their alleged collateral.

The first point, persuasively made by Perry Mehrling, and more recently by Bank of England, is that central banks need a (well-designed) framework to backstop markets, not only institutions.

Erm, markets are the *only* thing the government should be committed to ensuring functioning of - we have overwhelming evidences from multiple boom-bust-crisis episodes over the last 3 decades of the toxic results of governments backstopping hyperleveraged fraud-riddled institutions and the crooks running same.

[Mar 14, 2016] Theres Only One Buyer Keeping S P 500s Bull Market Alive

Resurgence of voodoo science is typical during crisis periods. "Deficits does not matter" voodoo does not work in a world were there are strong economic competitors to the USA and where euro and Yuan exists. The idea of deficit spending which Michelle Jamrisko discusses actually came from Keynesian economics, not from MMT.
Notable quotes:
"... Bridgewater's Ray Dalio, head of the world's biggest hedge fund, and Janus Capital's Bill Gross say policy makers are cornered and will have to resort to bigger deficits. ..."
"... "I have no problem with deficit spending," said Aneta Markowska, chief U.S. economist at Societe Generale in New York. "But this idea of the government printing money -- unlimited amounts of money -- and running unlimited, infinite deficits, that could become unhinged pretty quickly." ..."
"... Many more agree that it's precisely when households are cutting back that governments should do the opposite, to prevent a slump in demand. ..."
"... Most economists don't expect an imminent U.S. recession. But financial-market turmoil and America's political upheaval have added to a sense that nobody has figured out a cure for the economy's malaise. ..."
March 13, 2016 | Bloomberg Business

In an American election season that's turned into a bonfire of the orthodoxies, one taboo survives pretty much intact: Budget deficits are dangerous. A school of dissident economists wants to toss that one onto the flames, too.

It's a propitious time to make the case, and not just in the U.S. Whether it's negative interest rates, or

Calls for governments to take over the relief effort are growing louder. Plenty of economists have joined in, and so have top money managers. Bridgewater's Ray Dalio, head of the world's biggest hedge fund, and Janus Capital's Bill Gross say policy makers are cornered and will have to resort to bigger deficits.

"There's an acknowledgment, even in the investor community, that monetary policy is kind of running out of ammo," said Thomas Costerg, economist at Standard Chartered Bank in New York. "The focus is now shifting to fiscal policy."

Currency Monopoly

That's where it should have been all along, according to Modern Money Theory. The 20-something-year-old doctrine, on the fringes of economic thought, is getting a hearing with an unconventional take on government spending in nations with their own currency.

Such countries, the MMTers argue, face no risk of fiscal crisis. They may owe debts in, say, dollars or yen -- but they're also the monopoly creators of dollars or yen, so can always meet their obligations. For the same reason, they don't need to finance spending by collecting taxes, or even selling bonds.

The long-run implication of that approach has many economists worried.

"I have no problem with deficit spending," said Aneta Markowska, chief U.S. economist at Societe Generale in New York. "But this idea of the government printing money -- unlimited amounts of money -- and running unlimited, infinite deficits, that could become unhinged pretty quickly."

To which MMT replies: No one's saying there are no limits. Real resources can be a constraint -- how much labor is available to build that road? Taxes are an essential tool, to ensure demand for the currency and cool the economy if it overheats. But the MMTers argue there's plenty of room to spend without triggering inflation.

The U.S. did dramatically loosen the purse strings after the 2008 crisis, posting a deficit of more than 10 percent of gross domestic product the next year. That's since been trimmed to 2.6 percent of GDP, or $439 billion, last year.

... ... ...

Tighten Belts?

Those who push back sometimes argue that money-printing puts countries on a path that eventually leads, in a worst-case scenario, to Zimbabwe -- where money-printing debased the currency so badly that all the zeros could barely fit on banknotes. Or Venezuela, whose spending spree helped push inflation to 180 percent last year. Japan's a more mixed picture: years of deficits haven't scared off borrowers or unleashed inflation, but haven't produced much growth, either.

There's also a peculiarly American enthusiasm for balanced budgets, according to Jim Savage, a political science professor at the University of Virginia. He's traced it to the earliest days of the U.S., rooted in a "longstanding fear of centralized political power, going back to England."

Wray says there are episodes in American history when a different understanding prevailed. During World War II, he says, U.S. authorities learned a lesson that's since been forgotten -- that "we've always got unemployed resources, including labor, and so we can put them to work."

Savage says Americans have historically tended to conflate household and government debts. That category error is alive and well.

"Small businesses and families are tightening their belts," President Barack Obama said in 2010 as he announced a pay freeze for government workers. "Their government should, too."

It's not just MMT economists who winced at the comment. Many more agree that it's precisely when households are cutting back that governments should do the opposite, to prevent a slump in demand.

That argument doesn't carry much sway in Congress, though. That's one reason the Fed has had to shoulder so much of the burden of keeping the recovery alive, Societe Generale's Markowska says.

"When it comes to deciding on monetary easing, it's a handful of people in the room," she said. "It's going to take more pain to build that political consensus around the fiscal stimulus."

Wray says he'd expected attitudes to start shifting after the last downturn, just as the Great Depression gave rise to Keynesian economics and the New Deal, but "it really didn't change anything, as far as the policy makers go."

"I think it did change things as far as the population goes," he said, citing the anti-establishment campaigns of Sanders and Republican Donald Trump. It might take another crash to change minds, Wray says.

'Strange Period'

Most economists don't expect an imminent U.S. recession. But financial-market turmoil and America's political upheaval have added to a sense that nobody has figured out a cure for the economy's malaise.

Bill Hoagland, a Republican who's senior vice president of the Bipartisan Policy Center, has helped shape U.S. fiscal policy over four decades at the Congressional Budget Office and Senate Budget Committee.

He says a farm upbringing in Indiana helped him understand why "it's engrained in a number of Americans outside the Beltway that you equate your expenditures with your revenue." He also acknowledges that government deficits are different, and could be larger now to support demand, so long as there's balance in the longer term.

Most of all, Hoagland says he sees profound change under way. The "catastrophic event" of the 2008 crash may be reshaping American politics in a way that's only happened a handful of times before. And economic orthodoxy has taken a hit too.

"We're going through a very strange period where all economic theories are being tested," he said.

[Jan 30, 2016] How Central Banks (and Even Keynes) Misled the Public About Banking and Money

Notable quotes:
"... By Perry Mehrling, a professor of economics at Barnard College. Originally published at his website . ..."
"... Yes, the money creation process has been a big lie for a long time. In any case the Bank of England came clean a couple of years ago and admitted that standard story of money creation was false. They even acknowledge that it is not properly explained in most money and banking textbooks, which is a staggering admission. ..."
"... Paul Krugman wrote a column a couple of months ago where he claimed that banks take in savings from depositors and lend them out to borrowers which tells you either: 1) he doesnt know how banking works or 2) he is part of the conspiracy to keep the public in the dark. ..."
"... The truth right from the mouth of the worldss oldest central bank. http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/Documents/quarterlybulletin/2014/qb14q102.pdf ..."
"... Yeah, I saw that. It is amazing that a supposedly foremost Princeton Nobel winning economist apparently doesnt understand where money comes from… ..."
"... There is evidence that Krugman seems to have great difficulty admitting he was wrong. ..."
"... And what he writes makes me think he doesnt know how banking works. I find it difficult to believe he is part of any conspiracy. But I may be wrong. ..."
"... My take is that the fractional reserve and intermediation models are just ways of obfuscating the way banking actually works and the credit creation model is the accurate one. I have some advice for anyone who is struggling with the concepts which is as follows: always merge all the banks in the banking system into one bank in your mind. Assuming multiple banks as the author above does is irrelevant to the analysis and only serves to add confusion. ..."
"... I enjoyed the article very much. And it does seem to me that money creation is made to seem very, very, complex. Now maybe Im just too stupid, but it always strikes me that when people simply describe something, they either really dont know, or they are trying to bamboozle you… ..."
www.nakedcapitalism.com

By Perry Mehrling, a professor of economics at Barnard College. Originally published at his website .

In his recent paper, "A Lost Century in Economics: Three Theories of banking and the conclusive evidence" , Richard Werner argues that the old "credit creation theory" of money is true (empirically "accurate"), while both the newer "fractional reserve theory" and the presently dominant "debt intermediation theory" are false. For him, this matters mainly because the false theories are guiding current bank regulation and development policy, leading down a blind alley.

But it matters also simply because we need correct understanding of how the economy actually works, "we" meaning not just economists but also the general public. "Today, the vast majority of the public is not aware that the money supply is created by banks, that banks do not lend money, and that each bank creates new money."

Why is the public ignorant of the truth? Much of Werner's paper is devoted to an account of how the correct theory was pushed out of the conversation, first in the 1930s by the fractional reserve theory, and then after WWII by the debt intermediation theory. One culprit was a shift toward deductive and away from inductive methods. Another culprit, he suggests, was the self-interested "information management" by central banks, i.e. direct suppression of truth in their own publications. And in this suppression, he further suggests, Keynesian academics were at the very least complicit: "attempts were made to obfuscate, as if authors were at times wilfully trying to confuse their audience and lead them away from the important insight that each individual bank creates new money when it extends credit."

In this history, Werner gives special attention to Keynes himself since Keynes seems to have held each of the three theories in succession throughout his life. Keynes' own intellectual trajectory thus foreshadows the subsequent evolution of monetary thought, and so probably is partly responsible for leading successive generations astray. Just so, one apparent legacy of Keynes is that the Bank of England is currently holding all three theories at the same time! "Since each theory implies very different approaches to banking policy, monetary policy and bank regulation, the Bank of England's credibility is at stake." BoE credibility is thus a third reason that all of this matters.

But is it really true, as Werner claims, that these three theories are "mutually exclusive"?

He is at considerable pains to show that they are mutually exclusive, by using a succession of stylized balance sheet examples. The credit creation theory says that banks make loans by creating deposits, essentially expanding their balance sheets on both sides by the same amount. (The borrower of course also expands his own balance sheet, the loan being his liability and the deposits being his asset. In my own "money view", I call this a swap of IOUs.) In this way, money (bank deposits) is created that was not there before.

By contrast, the debt intermediation view says that banks make loans by lending reserves that they are already holding, essentially swapping one asset for another, these reserves having previously been obtained by someone's deposit. The balance sheet expands when the deposit is made, not when the loan is made. Banks merely intermediate between savers and borrowers, and do not create money.

In between these two views, the fractional reserve view says that individual banks make loans by lending reserves, but that the banking system as a whole can and does create money, up to a multiple of reserve holdings. The banking system does create money, but only after and as a consequence of the central bank increasing reserves–this is the famous "money multiplier".

So the difference between the theories seems clear, and it also seems like that difference should be testable empirically simply by watching actual bank balance sheets and seeing what happens when a loan is made. Does the balance sheet expand or does it not? With the cooperation of an actual bank, Werner books a dummy loan and finds that the balance sheet of the bank does in fact expand. This he takes to be scientific proof that the credit creation theory is correct and the others are false.

Not so fast. Let's look a bit closer.

Let me begin by admitting my sympathy for Werner (as I have already hinted by mentioning my own "money view" as a version of the credit creation view). In fact, Werner's heroes–H.D. McLeod and Joseph Schumpeter–are my own heroes as well, and I suspect that graduate school exposure to these authors sent him off on his own intellectual journey just as it did me. Even more, thirty years after that initial exposure, I find Werner's (co-authored) money and banking textbook "Where Does Money Come From?" one of the best introductions to the subject. Last fall I assigned Chapters 2 and 4 in the first two weeks of "Economics of Money and Banking" which I teach at Barnard College, Columbia University. I'm sympathetic.

But I don't think these three theories are quite as mutually exclusive as he makes them out to be.

For me, the central analytical issue is the distinction between "payment" and "funding" .

Let us suppose, with Werner, that Citibank makes a mortgage loan to me of $200,000, simply by swapping IOUs. I then transfer my new asset (the new Citibank deposit) to you, and you transfer your house to me. As my payment clears, you have a new deposit in your own bank (let's say Chase, to make it interesting), Citibank has a "due to" at the clearinghouse, and Chase has a "due from". Again, to make it interesting, let's suppose that Citibank has no reserves, so it enters the interbank market to borrow some, from Chase. At the end of the day, what we see is that the Citibank balance sheet is still expanded, so is Chase's, and so is mine. Only your balance sheet stays the same size, since you have swapped one asset (your house) for another (money). That's the payments perspective.

What about the funding perspective? If we follow the balance sheets through, it is clear that your money holding is the ultimate source of funds for my borrowing. (You lend to Chase, which lends to Citi, which lends to me.) In this sense, we can think of both Chase and Citibank as intermediaries, channeling funds from one place in the economy to another. But, in this example, there is no saving and there is no investment. The sale of the house adds nothing to GDP, it is just a transfer of ownership. The expansion of the banking system has facilitated that transfer of ownership by creating a liability (the deposit) that you apparently prefer to your house, at the same time acquiring an equivalent asset of its own (the loan). Citibank collects the spread between the mortgage rate and the interbank rate; Chase collects the spread between the interbank rate and the deposit rate.

But all of that is only what happens right at the moment of payment. What happens afterwards depends on the further adjustment of all of these balance sheets. One way this could all work out is that Citibank packages my mortgage with others to create a mortgage backed security, and that you spend your Chase deposit to acquire a mortgage backed security (perhaps indirectly through a mutual fund that stands in the middle). In this scenario, the newly created money is newly destroyed, the balance sheets of both Citi and Chase contract back to their original size, and the end result is that you are funding my loan directly. But again, no saving and no investment, just a change in your asset allocation, away from money toward fixed income investment.

Obviously this final scenario is a limiting case on one side. The limiting case on the other side is that you (or whoever you transfer your money to) are willing to hold the newly created money balances as an asset, so you continue to fund my loan indirectly. Now when Citibank securitizes and sells, it is able to repay its interbank liability to Chase, and for simplicity let's say that Chase uses that payment to acquire a different money market asset. One way this could all work out is that a shadow bank–money market funding of capital market lending–acquires the security and uses it as collateral for wholesale money market borrowing from Chase. Again, no saving and no investment, but the new money stays in circulation and is not destroyed.

These are the limiting cases, and obviously anything in between is also possible, depending on the portfolio decisions of Citibank, Chase, and you. But in all the cases, the debt intermediation view of banking is perfectly consistent with the credit creation view of banking. One focuses on the ultimate funding, while the other focuses on the initial payment.

That said, I have to agree with Werner that the credit creation process is all too commonly left out of the story–most modern courses never even mention the payments system–and it is a real (and important) question how this came to be so. It is a further real (and important) question why the intellectual memory of how the process actually works was left to marginalized sections of academia–Werner mentions specifically the Austrians and post-Keynesians. I'm not so sure that it was a central bank plot, though I do think that the shift in academic fashion toward studying equilibrium of a system of simultaneous equations played a role in obscuring the kind of dynamic balance sheet interactions that are the essence of the story.

What I would emphasize however is not the negative but the positive. The fact of the matter is that today the credit creation view is out of the shadows, and no longer the exclusive property of the marginalized . In evidence of this, I would direct your attention to the two Bank of England papers that Werner himself cites: here and here . But I would add to that also the most recent report coming out of the Group of 30 "Fundamentals of Central Banking, Lessons from the Crisis" . On page 3 you will find the following:

"In a barter economy, there can rarely be investment without prior saving. However, in a world where a private bank's liabilities are widely accepted as a medium of exchange, banks can and do create both credit and money. They do this by making loans, or purchasing some other asset, and simply writing up both sides of their balance sheet."

That's the truth that Werner wants central banks to admit, and now it appears that they have admitted it. The next question is what difference it makes, and that's a question for next time. Already it should be clear that progress toward answering that question will require us to be more careful about issues of payment versus funding.

P.S. BTW, the title of this post [at Merhling's site, which is "Great and mighty things which thou knowest not" [?]] is taken from Jeremiah 33:3 which Werner references in a footnote to his title: "should grains of wisdom be found in this article, the author wishes to attribute them to the source of all wisdom." Werner is apparently listening to powers higher than just McLeod and Schumpeter!

tricky rick , January 29, 2016 at 10:11 am

Chris Martenson and other "tin foil" folks have been laying this out in well documented studies for over a decade.

welcome too late to the party.

John Merryman , January 29, 2016 at 10:59 am

I think another aspect that should be considered is the preservation of surplus money through government debt.

For example, Volcker is credited with curing inflation through higher interest rates, but that slowed the economy as well and so reduced the need for money. It wasn't until Reagan had increased the deficit to 200 billion in 82 that inflation seemed to come under control enough that they could lower rates.

Now one way to create higher rates is for the Fed to sell debt it bought to create the money in the first place. So what is the difference between the Fed selling debt it is holding and the Treasury issuing fresh debt, other than the Fed destroys its money and the Treasury spends it on public works, thus Keynsian pump priming.

So who buys this debt, but those wealthy enough to have surplus money. Which suggests that if there is a surplus of money in the system, causing inflation, the easiest place to remove it is from those with a surplus of money.

Now money really does function as an enormous, glorified voucher system and what is more destructive of such a system, than enormous amounts of surplus vouchers?

So given that those with lots of such excess vouchers consequently have leverage over the rest of the system, what way to better preserve this wealth, than to have the public borrow it back and pay interest, even if much of what it gets spent on doesn't produce sufficient income to pay that interest, if not actually lost?

Eventually though even the public can't afford to keep this up, so what is the alternative?

Now most people save for predictable reasons, from raising children, housing, healthcare, to retirement and funerals. So what if the government, i.e., the public, were to threaten to tax excess money back out of the system, rather than just borrow it? Necessarily people would quickly find means to invest into these future needs directly, rather than trying to save up notational value. The problem is that we don't know exactly what we will need for what, which would mean we would have to invest into community and public projects, rather than save for our own specific needs.

While this might seem onerous, consider that we currently live in a highly atomized society, that is largely mediated by that failing financial mechanism. So if we had to start functioning as a more holistic group, with more organic interactions and public spaces and commons, people might have to come out of their shells a little more and deal with lots of other social and personal issues, which might not be a bad thing.

Basically we treat money as both medium of exchange and store of value, but these are different functions, as a medium is dynamic and a store is static. For instance, in the body, blood is the medium and fat is the store. Try storing fat in the arteries and you get clogged arteries, poor circulation and high blood pressure to compensate, which is analogous to our financial issues, with a clogged banking system, poor circulation to the rest of the economy and quantitive easing to compensate.

While the brain might need more blood than the feet, it does neither any good for the feet to rot and die from lack of circulation, nor does it do the brain any good to have excess blood. Similarly we need a stronger social structure and a leaner, more efficient economic medium, in which the excess is stored as the muscle of a stronger society and a healthier environment, rather than just treating them as stores of wealth to be monetized and siphoned away.

Helmholtz Watson , January 29, 2016 at 11:06 am

Yes, the money creation process has been a big lie for a long time. In any case the Bank of England came clean a couple of years ago and admitted that standard story of money creation was false. They even acknowledge that it is not properly explained in most money and banking textbooks, which is a staggering admission.

Paul Krugman wrote a column a couple of months ago where he claimed that banks take in savings from depositors and lend them out to borrowers which tells you either: 1) he doesn't' know how banking works or 2) he is part of the conspiracy to keep the public in the dark.

The truth right from the mouth of the worlds's oldest central bank. http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/Documents/quarterlybulletin/2014/qb14q102.pdf

fresno dan , January 29, 2016 at 11:20 am

Yeah, I saw that. It is amazing that a supposedly foremost Princeton Nobel winning economist apparently doesn't understand where money comes from…

jsn , January 29, 2016 at 11:46 am

In the mainstream world money is just a "veil" that obscures your view of how the divine markets work. They deliberately leave it out because it just confuses things…

No wonder no one in that world saw the GFC coming, they still all claim whocuddaknowed?

larry , January 29, 2016 at 1:37 pm

There is evidence that Krugman seems to have great difficulty admitting he was wrong. He even contends that using IS-LM is a good too for introducing students to the macroeconomy, even when they must unlearn it when they delve deeper in to the workings of the macroeconomy, and this is after Hicks himself rejected it as being an inaccurate depiction of the macroeconomy later in his life. I can't say what Krugman is thinking, but then I don't have to. I can go just by what he writes. And what he writes makes me think he doesn't know how banking works. I find it difficult to believe he is part of any conspiracy. But I may be wrong.

helmholtz watson , January 29, 2016 at 2:51 pm

Yes it's hard to believe that Krugman might not know how money/banking works but he is a very ideological guy. I happen to be sympathetic to many of his ideological views but any one who is intensely ideological is rarely a critical and independent minded thinker. Ideology is way of simplifying complex things and making your self more comfortable, and doesn't lead to knowledge. I am no expert on money and banking but I have read ten books on the subject over the last four years and numerous papers. I am pretty sure I understand it now. I think this guy Werner is right. It seems probable that there was an orchestrated campaign to obfuscate how banking and money creation work and one can imagine why that might have happened. Banking is quite literally a pyramid scheme under even the most conservative circumstances! Such a system can work and makes sense if it is prudently managed, regulated and limited in scope.

My take is that the fractional reserve and intermediation models are just ways of obfuscating the way banking actually works and the credit creation model is the accurate one. I have some advice for anyone who is struggling with the concepts which is as follows: always merge all the banks in the banking system into one bank in your mind. Assuming multiple banks as the author above does is irrelevant to the analysis and only serves to add confusion.

Christer Kamb , January 29, 2016 at 7:10 pm

Sorry Mr Watson but the swedish Riksbank is the world´s oldest central bank

fresno dan , January 29, 2016 at 11:18 am

I enjoyed the article very much. And it does seem to me that money creation is made to seem very, very, complex. Now maybe I'm just too stupid, but it always strikes me that when people simply describe something, they either really don't know, or they are trying to bamboozle you…

I think the article would have been more enlightening though if the example had been for a house that was TO BE BUILT.
Using that as an example, it seems to me that money is LOANED into existence – the person who wants the home loan has a good reputation, but the whole point of the loan is that they don't have nearly enough money to buy the house.

The carpenters and other workers don't get paid until they have done work (they loan their work to their employer), i.e., produced a house (or some portion of it). The money in the loan becomes real because a house that didn't exist now exists. There is more stuff in the world, and there is more money. And I think it explains something important – not any loan is useful. A house worth 100K that is sold for 1000K but than is foreclosed upon – somebody has to take a real loss – either the person who got the home loan, and to the extent that they can't pay the loan back, a builder or the bank takes the loss (if the foreclosed value is less than the original loan value)
So, is that correct?

Again, thanks for the article and I am looking forward to the next one!

paulmeli , January 29, 2016 at 11:23 am

Pick any year post WWII (because the data is readily accessible).

Compare the levels of federal spending and credit expansion.

Federal spending created more money every year except for the years 1998 thru 2007, where it was about even, and for 2006 and 2007 credit expansion was some 50% higher.

Then we got the mother of all credit crises.

Over that post WWII period federal spending created ~$78T while credit created ~$46T.

The common refrain is that federal taxes subtract from federal spending so it ends up being less.

Except in what universe do income taxes accrue only against income resulting from federal spending? It's nonsense and should be derided as such. It's an accounting convenience that does not reflect what is actually happening.

It may make sense for National Accounting (and to keep banksters in the drivers seat) but it makes zero sense in a rational analysis of a real-world system. That is the only way banks could be touted as the source of most of our money.

Despite an otherwise sound argument this article perpetuates the myth.

The banksters apparently have a hold on everyone, including the so-called 'good guys'.

Some justification based on the level of bank reserves or some other convoluted argument in 5,4,3,2,1 …

financial matters , January 29, 2016 at 11:31 am

Very interesting and I'm looking forward to your next installment.

I'm especially interested in the transfer of reserves from Chase to Citi and as you further point out 'Chase possibly using its reserves to acquire a different money market asset. One way this could all work out is that a shadow bank–money market funding of capital market lending–acquires the security and uses it as collateral for wholesale money market borrowing from Chase.'

This seems to be a transmission mechanism for asset appreciation as Eric Tymoigne is getting into is his excellent series:

"post 7 will start the private-bank posts) on monetary policy and the QE -asset price channel will be explained. But here is a short answer:
No bank's don't use cash to buy assets. If they deal with non-bank agents they just credit bank accounts, if banks deal with a fed account holder they debit their reserve balances to make payments.

The link works through interest rate, arbitrage, search for yield, and the fact that QE reduces the quantity of securities available in the market."

"the issue is how they would transfer the funds to make the purchase? They could buy securities if they find a fed account holder willing to sell them securities: Treasury is one, GSE is another one. Non-financial institutions no."

craazyman , January 29, 2016 at 11:31 am

All they do is talk about how the parts of the machine move - which is itself an amazing problem of conceptual collinearity - but not the phenomenon of the machine itself.

More and more you just say "Why not go to Youtube and check out a Rhianna video, rather than read another one of these essays."

Eventually maybe they'll get it. But when they study economics their whole adult life - and nothing else - it makes it hard. It's not like they're dumb or that they lack mental ability. In fact, they're all intelligent individuals who are quite capable in most areas of thinking. It's just that the conceptual language they need to use in order to perceive the phenomenon itself is a language they do not know. And so they look at reality and they try to make sense of it using the language they do know, and because words themselves and the ideas in the words catalyze perception, their limited language is not fully adequate, and they don't see or know that. What can you do? Everybody has to see it for themselves.

At any rate, you'd think by now it wouldn't be so hard. But most people aren't interested in this sort of thing so progress is really slow. Most people just go right to Youtube.

susan the other , January 29, 2016 at 12:28 pm

Adenosine triphosphate. The example several years ago in the comments, by a biologist, that it would be an extinction event for a colony of amoeba if a few of them decided to short amoeba futures and just hoard all the adenosine triphosphate – the one chemical every amoeba must have to transfer energy. Wish it had been an analogy to symbolic ADP which had usurped the real stuff and was being hoarded to make sure it maintained its value.

susan the other , January 29, 2016 at 12:32 pm

ATP

craazyman , January 29, 2016 at 1:10 pm

very nice! you have always impressed me with your thoughtful and penetrating intelligence.

(even though you go off the wacko, foo-foo, hug-the-trees cliff sometimes.)

Clive , January 29, 2016 at 2:16 pm

You assured me susan was a bona ride adjunct professor of theosophical studies at the University of Magonia. I want, nay, I demand my tuition fee, which apparently I had to pay in advance because otherwise 42 other Chinese applicants would be in line for my place, back.

craazyman , January 29, 2016 at 2:45 pm

she's a full profeser of creative analysis. she hugs trees as an adjunct profeser of foo foo philosophy

craazyboy , January 29, 2016 at 4:16 pm

Dunno why they have all these theories. It's simple. The Fed lowers interest rates, the mark to market value of bank assets go up, which greatly improves cap ratios, then banks don't need liabilities anymore. They just can make endogenous money and give it out to borrowers' banks.(it's all done electronically and fast so no one notices) All the Big Guy econ types know that.

All the rest of it is just details banks go thru just for show. Plus they can securitize and sell any assets they think may drop in value. They're smart people.

Now, the other thing all the Big Guy econ dudes always say is once us little folk figure it out, something wonderful is supposed to happen. Maybe I missed it, but what thing is that???

Maude , January 29, 2016 at 11:33 am

You forgot one piece…

Let us suppose, with Werner, that Citibank makes a mortgage loan to me of $200,000, simply by swapping IOUs. I then transfer my new asset (the new Citibank deposit) to you, and you transfer your house to me. As my payment clears, you have a new deposit in your own bank (let's say Chase, to make it interesting), Citibank has a "due to" at the clearinghouse, and Chase has a "due from". Again, to make it interesting, let's suppose that Citibank has no reserves, so it enters the interbank market to borrow some, from Chase. At the end of the day, what we see is that the Citibank balance sheet is still expanded, so is Chase's, and so is mine. Only your balance sheet stays the same size, since you have swapped one asset (your house) for another (money). That's the payments perspective.

Is the house owned free and clear? If not, the exchange eliminates that original liability/asset on someone else's balance sheet so everything is now at a net zero as far as new money circulating in the economy. Banks did not create anything new. They only exchanged one Asset/Liability for another Asset/Liability. Even if the house was paid off 20 years ago, there is no new money created from this transaction. The only way "new money" is created would be through interest paid on Treasuries, and direct deficit spending by federal government.

Mustsign topost , January 29, 2016 at 12:08 pm

debt intermediation theory is this: consumer loans -> salary -> pension funds
kleptocracy is this: privatization -> state spending -> profit

Anon , January 29, 2016 at 12:09 pm

As the commenters on the post at Prof. Mehrling's site have observed, his argument is logically flawed. He concludes: "But in all the cases, the debt intermediation view of banking is perfectly consistent with the credit creation view of banking."

The intermediation view of banking "says that banks make loans by lending reserves that they are already holding," as he explains at the beginning of his piece. In his example, the deposit that is created by the banking system funds the loan. Of course, in both case intermediation takes place but the nature of the intermediation is not comparable.

In the first case, banks have no special status in the economy. After all any of us who has a balance of $100 can lend out that balance of $100. In the second case, the only reason the bank can make the loan is because of a social norm in which the public trusts the banking system and is willing to keep its money in banks. This fact has always been a fundamental component of the credit creation theory of money - it is founded on the public's trust in the banking system. This trust allows banks to expand the money supply - at the potential expense of the public.

While I have great respect for Prof. Mehrling, it is far from clear that he has a good understanding of the credit creation view of money.

diptherio , January 29, 2016 at 12:29 pm

When I looked into the data about 5 years ago, it appeared that only a few large banks were actually operating on a credit-creation basis. Most banks (meaning your local, independent banks and credit unions) appeared to be operating on an intermediation model. Deposits are always the cheapest way to fund a loan, and for small banks, that looks like pretty much the only way they do it – iirc, loans were 60-80% of deposits in most banks. However, at JPM, BofA, etc, their loans were well over 100% of their deposits…like waaaay over. So it looked to me like just a few big players were driving endogenous money creation, while most banks actually were doing, essentially, what fractional-reserve theory says they do.

That's my understanding, but I don't claim to be an expert.

Anon , January 29, 2016 at 12:36 pm

diptherio:

Banks no longer keep their loans on balance sheet, so a simple static analysis of their balance sheet doesn't tell us much about how much credit creation they are doing. To study the degree to which banks create money you have to look at the role they play in the shadow banking system as well.

Skippy , January 29, 2016 at 6:28 pm

Too some degree… my concerns about the shadow sector vastly out weigh the traditional sector e.g. has the traditional sector become [increasingly] just a front house op to generate velocity for the shadow sector, and the latter just needs a – store of – when the economy gets a black eye.

Skippy , January 29, 2016 at 7:17 pm

Therein lies the rub e.g. some fixate on one component of a veritable galaxy of operational scope, so at this juncture on can surmise that new universes of credit are created and inserted into the multiverse to survive on their own [inhabitants luck of the draw]. Maybe theoretical physics would be a better methodology of describing credit activity's at this juncture than thermodynamics, ideology, or socio-economic-political optics…

JeffC , January 29, 2016 at 9:29 pm

There's a confusion here. Suppose a bank with reserves R and corresponding deposits X, in addition to other balance-sheet items, has

R X.

at the top of its balance sheet. It makes loan L, which creates new deposit D to obtain balance sheet

L D *
R X.

The borrower/deposit-holder transfers her deposit to another bank, so the original bank's balance sheet drops down to

L X,

while the new bank gains this on its balance sheet:

R D.

So the sequence is (1) create new deposit D and (2) transfer the deposit to the new bank. This is the money-creation model in action. It is correct.

When we imagine that reserves are being loaned instead, we are actually skipping the balance sheet marked * above. Comparing the balance sheet before and after the skipped one, we come to believe that reserves have been turned into a loan. This is incorrect. The newly created deposit is simply in a different bank. To see what is really going on, we have to consider the loan and transfer separately.

JTMcPhee , January 29, 2016 at 4:57 pm

Can anyone tell me where that $100 came from? Or the $200,000 to buy that archetypical house? We got lots of "blind philosophers feeling their part of the elephant and pronouncing its essence" but where does "wealth" originate, as opposed to money and "assets?"

cnchal , January 29, 2016 at 10:50 pm

. . . but where does "wealth" originate

(MMT – Material Meets Tool X sales) – expenses = profit or loss. If it's profit, that is wealth. If it's loss that is hell.

nothing but the truth , January 29, 2016 at 7:59 pm

"In the first case, banks have no special status in the economy. After all any of us who has a balance of $100 can lend out that balance of $100"

yes you can lend it out, but the bank is 1) at the top of collectors line 2) has backing from the FDIC. When you loan 100$ to someone, you dont have that money anymore. When you lend 100$ to the bank, you still have that money, and about 10 other people have it as well.

JTMcPhee , January 29, 2016 at 8:33 pm

I'm sure it must be obvious to brighter and more subtle folks than me, but where does that $100 that's referenced here come from?

I have an antique wood-bodied block plane (the woodworking kind) made by my great-grandfather ( except for the perfect cast iron blade and two nails). He used tools he made or bought to carve the body and chisel out the throat and make the wedge. I was offered $100 for it recently. Where does the wealth or value that my ancestor's plane, now mine by inheritance and survival, come from? Or all the other $100s that make up " the economy" that the MorgulBankers are conjuring derivatives out of?

cnchal , January 29, 2016 at 11:32 pm

. . .I was offered $100 for it recently. Where does the wealth or value that my ancestor's plane, now mine by inheritance and survival, come from?

From your ancestor's labor in creating the plane and an ongoing demand from people interested in acquiring the plane.

Where the $100 offer comes from is the perceived value of the plane compared to other planes on offer, such as for example the Chinese made crap in Home Depot.

Since it sounds like you didn't sell it for $100, you value it at a higher price. Wondrous market eh.

Helmholtz Watson , January 29, 2016 at 1:46 pm

What is truly amazing about this is that in year 2016 there is still massive confusion and ambiguity about how money and banking work. How can that be? Bizarre!

MaroonBulldog , January 29, 2016 at 6:25 pm

Q. How can that be?

A. Easily: "the false theories are guiding current bank regulation and development policy, leading down a blind alley." If correct understanding would lead to a correct regulation, then those whose interests would no be served by correct regulation will obfuscate correct understanding.

Blurtman , January 29, 2016 at 3:21 pm

Banks lend what they do not have.

MED , January 29, 2016 at 3:25 pm

For the TBTF banks, change the famous "money multiplier". up 10% per Billion

kevinearick , January 29, 2016 at 4:08 pm

Psychograpic Marketing, LSD & Mind Control

Baby yoga for kids living in the forest, who never go outside alone; the highest real mortality rate in the US; and the prototype for Family Law feeding Obamacare in the big city – does it get any dumber than that?

The psychologists are just smart enough to get the majority killed. The markets are an exercise in control, a game, and nothing more, until Little Johnny jumps off Science Building and shorts the insanity all together. Did you see that last impulse, transferring wealth to the Soros clan, now demanding another bailout?

The assumption of emotion-based decisions, lest one be a robot, is ludicrous, but that is the basis of empire marketing. The majority short-circuits itself, with the false assumptions presented by empire media broad band, the frequency it chooses to occupy, to mirror itself, and obsessive-compulsive behavior begets itself. The brain stem is a geared Archimedes Screw.

Because the body is grounded to earth, the dc side of the brain is self-obsessed, and LSD offsets the signal into the noise of the clutch, is no reason to hand your life over to a psychologist printing money. Because the predicitive subconscious exists in a feedback loop with adaptation doesn't mean that everyone is sick, stuck on an empire frequency, and mentally ill if they don't seek diagnosis. Money is not reality, except for those who choose it.

Wall Street sells mortgages with increasing duration, Madison Avenue produces crap for compliance at increasing cost, and the majority indentures future generations with bonds, until they can't. Global finance simply liquidates natural resources and moves, in planetary rotation. Relative to unincorporated farming, the land is largely fallow, but the participants have TV, cardboard and gadgets, dependent upon empire for a battery.

Net, populations vacillate between denial and depression, with growing impulses of anger, in a market for psychologists who see others as a reflection of themselves. Married people raising independent children cannot afford to be quite so stupid. And without such children, the economy can only implode, reflecting the psychologists' own self-obsession.

Do you remember that story about the natives not seeing Christopher's ship, until the shaman pointed it out, when the natives were slaughtered by war, disease and poverty?

Females can breed on equal rights for a thousand years, with males providing the technology, but they will just end up a thousand years behind the curve. Women are bred to think in linear time, and men to think in frequency, because that is what children need. One is the counterweight and the other is the cab.

The majority, focused on self, rides the counterweight to floors on one side, all dead ends, and is jealous of children exiting on the other side. The choice at the crossroad is always the same, investment or consumption. The majority is not experiencing falling living standards and increasing income inequality because some banker provided the money, an excuse, for multicultural unicorn dreaming.

Retired people generally prefer a Fred and Wilma economy, city kids generally prefer a rat race, and once separated for the purpose, the police are generally dispatched to slice and dice families into sausage to feed the former, by authorities always pleading ignorance, majority vote. Once you see those cops, promoting gang awareness, it's time to go. At empire cycle begin, you have plenty of time; now you have none.

When I began writing this, I had no idea where the focus would be, but I do have a pattern database and a linear time translator, such as it is. My wife can tell you the weather 25 years, 3 months and 10 days ago. Choose a wife that enjoys living in the moment, and a husband that enjoys an independent frequency, compliments capable of trust in an untrustworthy world.

My mind is a steel trap, my wife's is Disneyland, and we live in the feminist capital of the world, as you might suspect with an ac mind. Your perspective is your own, if you choose to have one, and we all go through phases, climbing and descending the ladder of consciousness. I am simply sharing, after decades of listening and saying not a damn word, in the empire, on the eve of WWIII.

From the perspective of legacy, which has no clue what is in those libraries, the Internet was designed to extend linear thinking, to nowhere. From the perspective of labor, the Internet was designed to demonstrate the fallacy of limiting yourself to linear thinking. Contrary to popular mythology, choice is not about the color of your tennis shoes made in China.

If it's not anonymous cash, it cannot store value, because independent children are reared beyond empire's grasp, the physical manifestation of intellectual self-obsession, which Sweden is now learning, way to late, a slave to Germany, and Austria in particular. Knowing what needs to be done and doing it are two different things. The psychologists in New Hampshire produce drug addiction, their solution is drug rehab, and Iowa is supposed to be nuts.

You didn't think Keynes sprang from nothing did you?

Skippy , January 29, 2016 at 6:30 pm

From opti to me and from me to you….

http://nautil.us/issue/7/waste/blissed_out-fish-on-prozac

ke , January 29, 2016 at 8:52 pm

Thanks. The wife likes to keep track of water. She's like a human testing machine. Best water I had was up at bay of fungi, big moose. That document on Ford's car made of hemp and plastic was pretty cool, before he was told he would be making cars out of steel, finance.

Always thought I would end up in Australia, but like the doctor thing, the critters have to destroy everything they touch.

Thank again

nothing but the truth , January 29, 2016 at 8:05 pm

keynes is describing a dollar based on gold standard.

your problem is that you refuse to see meaning in the real. you see meaning only in money. and money, now, is nothing. it is a fiction.

all these articles are symptoms of your cognitive dissonance. all your meaning is eventually money and money is eventually nothing.

and from this seems to come the idea that since money is nothing, reality can be created from nothing.

not so easy.

animalogic , January 29, 2016 at 9:35 pm

Fiat money is not a "nothing". But it can certainly become a nothing…if everyone loses belief it it.

Skippy , January 29, 2016 at 10:10 pm

How can one lose belief in each other – ?????

Darthbobber , January 30, 2016 at 12:15 am

"Contradictions, of which money is merely the palpable manifestation, are then to
be transcended by means of all kinds of artificial monetary
manipulations. It is no less clear that many revolutionary
operations with money can be carried out, in so far as an attack on
it appears only to rectify it while leaving everything else
unchanged. We then beat the sack on the donkey's back, while
aiming at the donkey. But so long as the donkey does not feel the
blows, one actually beats only the sack, not the donkey;
contrariwise, if he does feel the blows, we are beating him and not
the sack."

At the end of the day, what ultimately needs to be impacted is not the pieces of paper.
All we can ever do with those is hand people claims against future production.

And when the theory of "managing" an economy stops at the control of aggregate numbers as its only allowable tool to influence the process, it can never accomplish the objective of avoiding major crises.

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[Jan 04, 2016] Dollar Dominance Deconstructing the Myths and Untangling the Web

Notable quotes:
"... The US empire is one of Multi-National corporations and International Trade Deals. ..."
"... Im intrigued by that assertion, especially if this comes from a more libertarian perspective and an author who actually mentions NATO. Of course corporate welfare in various forms is a key part of what is happening, but the core issue is a literal military empire, not some vague commercial facsimile of one. ..."
"... The direct imperial threats include economic warfare, as displayed by the IMF and ECB. As demonstrated in Greece, Ukraine, and before Greece Ireland. ..."
"... By 1978, US inflation had risen to 9% while inflation in the rest of the world slowed dramatically by comparison. Both the Carter administration and the Fed did everything in their power to control dollar devaluation, but it was clear by this time that without the assistance from foreign governments the dollar would not be able to survive . … Over the course of the next six years the dollar experienced a meteoric rise in value. ..."
Jan 04, 2016 | naked capitalism

washunate , January 4, 2016 at 10:43 am

The US empire is one of Multi-National corporations and International Trade Deals.

I'm intrigued by that assertion, especially if this comes from a more libertarian perspective and an author who actually mentions NATO. Of course corporate welfare in various forms is a key part of what is happening, but the core issue is a literal military empire, not some vague commercial facsimile of one. One of the most successful Big Lies in our domestic political discourse is to blame convenient corporate villains instead of the public officials who are responsible for decision-making and implementation.

This isn't the 1980s anymore. The global financial system (post Bretton Woods) collapsed somewhere there in the 1990s. Today, things are held together by direct imperial threats, not corporate board rooms.

Synoia , January 4, 2016 at 10:50 am

The direct imperial threats include economic warfare, as displayed by the IMF and ECB. As demonstrated in Greece, Ukraine, and before Greece Ireland.

Synoia , January 4, 2016 at 10:47 am

It is not dollar hegemony that rules the world, but the global financial system which gives the dollar its place of privilege.

Syllogism? What came first the chicken or the egg?

Where to begin – one could suggest the author read Chapter 1 of Wray's MMT and rewrite considering sector balances and fiat currencies, and present the different line of argument which would arise.

MyLessThanPrimeBeef , January 4, 2016 at 1:18 pm

Unless you entice, seduce, leave no other option for the workers but to borrow, at ever lower rates, thank God.

Then, you can export jobs overseas. Wait, that's how we have managed so far…that, and renting out rooms/beds/bathrooms in your apartment.

Left in Wisconsin , January 4, 2016 at 1:29 pm

"By 1978, US inflation had risen to 9% while inflation in the rest of the world slowed dramatically by comparison. Both the Carter administration and the Fed did everything in their power to control dollar devaluation, but it was clear by this time that without the assistance from foreign governments the dollar would not be able to survive ." … "Over the course of the next six years the dollar experienced a meteoric rise in value."

Maybe not central to the main argument but I found this claim (in bold) implausible.

[Dec 17, 2015] FED 5 year experiment in string pushing and do-nothingism is coming to an end

Notable quotes:
"... L. Summers claims the fed faces asymmetric risks, because failure of a too-loose policy can more easily be corrected than failure of a too-tight policy ..."
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Dan Kervick -> Pinkybum, December 16, 2015 at 07:08 PM
Why? What the Fed did today was raise the Fed funds rate. The Fed funds rate is the rate at which banks lend their excess reserves to one another in the interbank lending market. Interbank lending is at an all-time low because banks are already holding such a staggering quantity of excess reserves that they have very little need to borrow any of them from anybody else. Many banks could increase their lending 5 or 10 fold without acquiring a single additional dollar of reserves.

https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=2W6C

The prevailing effective Fed funds rate was at a historically unprecedented 0.12% rate that was only half of the historically unprecedented target rate of 0.25%. Now that the target rate has gone up to 0.50%, the Fed funds rate will still be *far* lower than it was at any time between 1954 and 2009.

https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=2Qva

So the Fed has slightly increased the rock bottom price in a market few people are availing themselves of because of gross excess supply in that market for something they don't need to obtain. It increased that rock bottom price to a slightly higher rock bottom price. And yet there are people who are concerned this is going to make money too "tight".

The number and convoluted complexity of the tall stories the neo-monetarist and New Keynesian quacks have had to tell to sell people on this patently absurd confusion and hysteria is breathtaking. Now those people are all quite sad, because their 5 year experiment in string pushing and do-nothingism is coming to an end, and they weren't able to prove their conservative theory that the nation's economic goals can be achieved with central bank rate twiddling and verbal exercises in expectations management.

Ben Groves -> Dan Kervick...
Milton Friedman was a very very very bad man.
am -> am

The early BBC take on the move. I think we will see currency movements against the dollar and matching interest rate moves, especially in the developing world. If they do proceed to normalisation over the next several quarters then this instability will continue world wide over the next several quarters. Its effect on the US and the world economy will be depressive although probably not recessive. That will show it should have been avoided. Apologies for the crystal ball.
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35117405

JF said...

What happens with the FED's book of assets? At the end of the press release they indicated that they will continue to roll-over their book of assets as the bonds mature - " it anticipates doing so until normalization of the level of the federal funds rate is well under way."

That is a significant alteration in their policy - it ties the redemption of the maturing book of assets to increasing interest rates - targeting something they call normalization.

So does this mean that interest rates have to come up to 3% or so before they will stop the roll-over?

spencer said...

Maybe the interesting thing is that almost all of them expect 2.0%, or maybe a bit higher, real GDP growth over the next two years. That is about the same as it has been. Does this imply that they expect higher rates to have little of no impact?

pgl -> spencer...

Some suggest potential real GDP is growing at only 2%. Let's say that is correct. The GDP gap is over 3%. So are they saying they want this gap to continue? If so - a bad decision.

don said...

L. Summers claims the fed faces asymmetric risks, because failure of a too-loose policy can more easily be corrected than failure of a too-tight policy. Not sure I see this. For example, I would expect a reverse course by the fed now to quickly bring dollar weakening and exuberance in equity markets...

[Dec 17, 2015] Full employment is important for long-term reduction of inequality

Notable quotes:
"... Full employment is important for long-term reduction of inequality. Periods of high unemployment not only do damage to workers who lose their jobs and see their skills atrophy, but also cause those who keep their jobs to experience weaker wage growth. This is especially hard on those with lower incomes, who see larger cuts in working hours during periods of high unemployment. ..."
"... The elites like Feldman seem to be fine with golden parachutes for the wealthy but want to give the poor a lottery in place of a pension. Social Security is insurance that provides a safety net. Replacing SS with investments that allow people to fall through the cracks is not a good idea. ..."
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pgl said... December 17, 2015 at 01:46 AM

...

Full employment is important for long-term reduction of inequality. Periods of high unemployment not only do damage to workers who lose their jobs and see their skills atrophy, but also cause those who keep their jobs to experience weaker wage growth. This is especially hard on those with lower incomes, who see larger cuts in working hours during periods of high unemployment.

...As it looks like the economy will be weak, and interest rates low, for the foreseeable future, this is a problem that won't go away on its own. And as she concludes, "excessive emphasis on low and stable inflation at the expense of a strong labor market is unwarranted. Privileging low inflation over maximum employment means that more people are likely to experience unemployment, underemployment, or stagnant wages."

bakho -> pgl...
Our wealthy elites like cheap labor. High unemployment leads to cheap labor.
The newly employed are not likely to take up a collection to hire an outgoing Fed member. A banker might be willing to hire at a premium.
BenIsNotYoda -> pgl...

The Fed can not reduce inequality. This should be done with fiscal action - taxes, min wage hikes etc. To push Fed to consider inequality is pure mission creep and delusional. They will create more problems trying. What is next on the list? Cancer?

pgl -> BenIsNotYoda...

I'm not against fiscal stimulus but that is not decided by the FED. Congress is run by gold bug idiots. So the point that the FED should not be run by gold bug idiots stands...

BenIsNotYoda -> pgl...

The rule should be - do not do stupid things. And by absolving congress and pushing the Fed to do things they can not, you are part of the problem.

Peter K. -> BenIsNotYoda...

"The Fed can not reduce inequality."

Why not?

"This should be done with fiscal action - taxes, min wage hikes etc."

Why not all of the above?

"To push Fed to consider inequality is pure mission creep and delusional."

Why?

"They will create more problems trying."

Not true.

"What is next on the list? Cancer?""

reductio ad absurdum

William -> Peter K....

A Reductio is not actually a fallacy, it's an acceptable form of refutation.

His actual fallacy was a Slippery Slope.

That being said, I agree with pgl. Just because the person behind the steering wheel is trying to drive you into a ditch doesn't mean the person controlling the pedals can't hit the breaks.

(Though our current situation is more like the person behind the wheel is refusing to steer, and is instead spending their time drilling holes in the gas tank to keep us from going anywhere.)


Sanjait -> William...

His fallacy was in the original claim that the Fed can't do anything to reduce inequality. It's an especially obtuse claim at this moment in time.

Syaloch -> BenIsNotYoda...

Binder: "Privileging low inflation over maximum employment means that more people are likely to experience unemployment, underemployment, or stagnant wages."

Sure sounds to me like the Fed can reduce inequality.

Or do you think unemployment, underemployment, and stagnant wages have no impact on inequality?

RGC -> RGC...

Pushing on a string

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pushing on a string is a figure of speech for influence that is more effective in moving things in one direction than another – you can pull, but not push.

If something is connected to someone by a string, they can move it toward themselves by pulling on the string, but they cannot move it away from themselves by pushing on the string. It is often used in the context of economic policy, specifically the view that "Monetary policy [is] asymmetric; it being easier to stop an expansion than to end a severe contraction

According to Roger G. Sandilans[1] and John Harold Wood[2] the phrase was introduced by Congressman T. Alan Goldsborough in 1935, supporting Federal Reserve chairman Marriner Eccles in Congressional hearings on the Banking Act of 1935:

Governor Eccles: Under present circumstances, there is very little, if any, that can be done.

Congressman Goldsborough: You mean you cannot push on a string.

Governor Eccles: That is a very good way to put it, one cannot push on a string. We are in the depths of a depression and... beyond creating an easy money situation through reduction of discount rates, there is very little, if anything, that the reserve organization can do to bring about recovery.[2]

The phrase is, however, often attributed to John Maynard Keynes: "As Keynes pointed out, it's like pushing on a string...",[3] "This is what Keynes meant by the phrase 'Pushing on a string.'"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pushing_on_a_string

BenIsNotYoda -> Syaloch...

To all of the above,

The biggest factor increasing inequality is not high unemployment right now. It is sky high asset prices that is raising the net worth and income of the top 1% or 0.1%. Piketty documented this as well - asset prices and inequality cycles are highly correlated.

So what is Fed to do? They caused it in the first place.

Letting the economy run hot so wages go up - this way will take forever to reduce inequality to any appreciable degree.

Cascatore Хачатурян -> BenIsNotYoda..

"
Fed can not reduce inequality. This should be done with
"
~~BenIsNotYoda~

Do FG have 4 trillion $$$$ of assets still on their balance sheet? What happens when they auction these off into the free market? All asset prices drop? By supply/price/demand? As asset prices drop what happens to buying power of 1% jokers? Drops?

As buying power of 1% dudes drops they are able to buy less thus to some extent they cease to price 99% out of the market. Do you see the mechanism involved?

When the benBernank pushed onto the top of the stack first high rates then middle rates then low rates then small balance sheet as he expanded sheet with *twist*, you are thinking that the graniteJanet will pop balance sheet off the top of the stack first later pop 0% rates off top of the stack as we come out of the inner loop then revert to the parent process. This is subtle but important.

The graniteJanet used an offset on the stack pointer to dip into the middle of the stack to access higher rate first, bypassing the 4 trillion balance sheet. Do you see how all this fits together?

You now have 64 micro-seconds to crunch the numbers.

Good
luck
!

JohnH -> pgl...

As usual, pgl opposes any ideas that carry of whiff of criticism of the Fed and its ineffective, redistributive monetary policy. He must be responsible for PR for the Fed...

In fact the criticisms are spot on--its focus is more on higher inflation than on legally mandated maximum employment, it refuses to enforce regulations, and it is rife with cronyism, as Bernie's audit of the Fed revealed years ago.

Stiglitz advocates reform, noting that "The real problem is that money does not go to where it should go, as we see for example in the United States. The money does not flow into the real economy, because the transmission mechanism is broken...Access for small and medium enterprises to credit is too expensive. That's why it is so important that the transmission mechanism work." And of course, consumer credit rates barely budged since the Fed cut rates to zero, so ordinary people don't see the benefit, except for affluent mortgage holders.

http://www.cash.ch/news/alle/stiglitz-billiggeld-lost-kein-problem-3393853-448

Ellen Brown would go further--reinvent the entire banking system and cites Russia, Iceland, Ireland and Ecuador as places experimenting with new ideas.
http://ellenbrown.com/2015/12/11/reinventing-banking-developments-in-russia-iceland-the-uk-and-ecuador/

Of course, all of this is anathema to Fedbots like pgl, who insist that everything is hunky dory...if only the Fed would feed free money to his cronies forever, it would be heaven on earth.

Instead of taking any criticism of the Fed off the table, as pgl and his coterie fervently desire, it's long past time for a thorough debate about the Fed, its failed policies, and ways to extensively reform it.

bakho said...

Noah Corrects Feldman's funny numbers on entitlements and wealth inequality and comes to the opposite conclusion. The elites like Feldman seem to be fine with golden parachutes for the wealthy but want to give the poor a lottery in place of a pension. Social Security is insurance that provides a safety net. Replacing SS with investments that allow people to fall through the cracks is not a good idea.

[Nov 23, 2015] Thoughts on NPRs Discussion of the Weimar 70s: Deflating Inflation Myths

Notable quotes:
"... Higher unemployment reduced workers' bargaining power and lowered demand in the economy. This slowed inflation. In fact, the skipping from Gerald Ford to Paul Volcker, misrepresents the actual course of inflation over this period. Inflation did in fact come down. After peaking at 10.4 percent in 1974, it fell back to 5.5 percent in 1976 before it started to rise again. The main factor bringing inflation down was a steep recession in 1974-1975, so the method for bringing inflation under control was not quite as difficult to figure out as the piece implies. ..."
"... In sum, the inflation in the 1970s was nowhere near as debilitating as this piece implies. It was not in the least mysterious and would likely have come down even without the magic of Paul Volcker. The Volcker recession destroyed the lives of millions of workers and their children. It is very much an open question as to whether a more rapid reduction in the rate of inflation was worth this pain. ..."
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anne said... , November 23, 2015 at 05:17 AM
http://www.cepr.net/blogs/beat-the-press/thoughts-on-npr-s-discussion-of-the-weimar-70s-deflating-inflation-myths

November 22, 2015

Thoughts on NPR's Discussion of the Weimar 70s: Deflating Inflation Myths

National Public Radio had a piece * on the horrible inflation of the 1970s and how the country was rescued by the herioics of Paul Volcker who was Federal Reserve chair at the time. The piece raises several points that could use a bit more context and leaves out some important information.

First and most importantly, the piece implies a world that did not exist. It begins with a discussion of a speech by President Gerald Ford in 1974. It told listeners:

"Inflation was the silent thief, and every year it got worse. Inflation got worse. It went from 10 percent to 11 percent to 12 percent. It wasn't clear exactly why and no one could agree on a simple way to fix it."

Neither part of this story is especially true. Inflation was hardly silent. It was widely reported, so people did know about it. Nor was it obviously a thief. Many, perhaps most, wage contracts were indexed to inflation, which meant that wages rose more or less in step with prices. While this was not true for everyone, a substantial segment of the population was able to insulate itself from the effects of inflation. This is one of the factors that made it harder to contain inflation.

It is also not true that no one knew how to fix it. Higher unemployment reduced workers' bargaining power and lowered demand in the economy. This slowed inflation. In fact, the skipping from Gerald Ford to Paul Volcker, misrepresents the actual course of inflation over this period. Inflation did in fact come down. After peaking at 10.4 percent in 1974, it fell back to 5.5 percent in 1976 before it started to rise again. The main factor bringing inflation down was a steep recession in 1974-1975, so the method for bringing inflation under control was not quite as difficult to figure out as the piece implies.

Then we get this account of the period from New York University economist Bill Silber:

"SILBER: It sort of took over your life. You had to worry about buying things before they went up in price. Every time you turned around you'd say, well, I mean, I better buy it now rather than later and of course that's the process, which makes the inflation accelerate because everybody starts thinking that way. Just buy something because you know if you buy it now you're better off than if you wait.

"KESTENBAUM: Do you remember that happening with you? Did you buy anything for that reason?

"SILBER: I think I bought a house.

"KESTENBAUM: People buying houses just because they think they'll be more expensive the next year - that is not good...."

Perhaps inflation took over Mr. Silber's life, but this is not likely true for many other people. House price inflation peaked at 16.3 percent in the year from February of 1978 to February of 1979. This is not good, but there are two points worth noting. First, it was already on its way down by the time our hero, Paul Volcker, enters the stage in the fall of 1979. On a year over year basis the rate of house price inflation was down to 14.8 percent and if we annualize the rate for the immediate three months before Volcker took the job it was down to 11.8 percent.

The other point is that we have seen comparable rates of house price increases more recently. For example, in the year from August 2004 to August 2005 house prices rose by 14.5 percent. Did it take over your life?

The other point worth noting here is that most prices were not rising anywhere near this fast. For example car prices were rising at a 7.5 percent annual rate when Volcker took the job. This meant that if you were considering buying a car for $20,000 (in today's dollars) and waited a month, it would cost you $150 more. Clothes were rising at less than a 4.0 percent rate. This meant that it would cost you $1.30 if you put off buying that $400 suit for a month. Waiting a month on a $20 shirt would cost you 7 cents. This was not Weimar Germany where inflation was reaching the point people could not do ordinary business.

In addition to the misrepresentations, there is an extremely important part of the story left out of the discussion in this piece. Oil prices quadrupled in the early 1970s as OPEC first flexed its muscle as a cartel. They quadrupled again in the late 1970s as the Iranian revolution took the country's production, then the world's second largest exporter, off the market. At the time the economy was both more dependent on oil and less flexible than it is today.

These price increases played a huge role in driving up inflation as there was no easy way for the economy to deal with this jolt. The impact of the oil price rises was widely known and discussed at the time so there is nothing mysterious in this story. Oil prices plunged in the 1980s as increased supply and reduced demand, both due to the recession and conservation efforts, put downward pressure on prices. Lower oil prices would have dampened inflation with or without Paul Volcker's magic.

The other important piece of the inflation puzzle left out off this discussion is that official consumer price index seriously overstated the rate of inflation at the time, with the gap approaching 2 full percentage points in 1978 and 1979. This mattered both because many contracts were legally tied to the rate of inflation and also because many workers would likely have seen the official CPI as setting a target for wage increases. This overstatement disappeared in the 1980s, first because the factors driving it went into reverse, and second because the Bureau of Labor Statistics changed its methodology. This also had nothing to do with Paul Volcker's magic.

In sum, the inflation in the 1970s was nowhere near as debilitating as this piece implies. It was not in the least mysterious and would likely have come down even without the magic of Paul Volcker. The Volcker recession destroyed the lives of millions of workers and their children. It is very much an open question as to whether a more rapid reduction in the rate of inflation was worth this pain.

* http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=456855788

-- Dean Baker

djb -> anne...

it wasn't just the collusion of the oil producing nations that played a role in the rising oil prices of the 1970's. The American oil companies were part of that collusion as well. Tankers full of oil stayed parked off the cost and prices went up every 15th and 30th of the month like clockwork. That from an industry insider, my father.

Those factors were not controlled by opec nations or market forces other than collusion

anne -> djb...

https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=2EcA

January 4, 2015

Price of Oil, 1968-1990

djb -> anne...

For the oil company he worked for the price increases during the 79 crisis would come in on the 15th and the 30th of each month during the period when the oil prices were increasing

this was not what normally happened

he found it fishy

Dan Kervick ->anne...

"Many, perhaps most, wage contracts were indexed to inflation, which meant that wages rose more or less in step with prices."

This is a good piece by Dean Baker. I was only in high school in the mid-seventies, but I was an undergrad from 77-81, and was taking a bunch of economics courses at the time when inflation was a big issue. And Baker's telling more closely resembles the way I remember it going down.

The main economic theme I remember being in the air at the time was the idea of the "wage-price spiral". the analogy was with the arms race. Basically everyone had come to have high inflation expectations, and the high expectations were self-fulfilling. Producers continually raised their prices both to keep up with actual increases in the prices they paid for their own supplies and labor, and to be ahead of the curve on the increases they expected to occur in the near future. Workers negotiated hefty COLAs into their contracts to keep up with the anticipated price rises, which caused their employers to raise their prices, which caused labor to demand higher wages, etc. - and on and on it went.


I also remember the economics professors emphasizing very strongly the difference between inflation and changes in the "cost of living" - basically consumer prices. This is a distinction that seems frequently lost in many contemporary discussions. It is possible to have high persistent inflation without any change in the cost of living whatsoever. Similarly, if there is a change in the relative prices of labor and consumer goods, then the cost of living could go up or down, even if there is no general inflation.

The reason the high inflation of the period was considered "bad" was that inflation at that high a level tends to be very jerky and somewhat unpredictable, and the size of the prediction uncertainty potentially very significant. Since contracts of all kinds have inflation expectations priced into them, then the inability to accurately anticipate nominal changes added an extra element of risk to ordinary business dealing.

The picture many people now have is that Volcker "broke the back" of inflation. But the way I remember it, the decline in inflation rates was a much more complex process having to do with (i) trends in the decline in union membership and labor bargaining power, (ii) unions being convinced to back off COLA demands, or replace them with other demands - especially in industries that were under heavy international competitive pressure, (iii) subsiding of the impact of the OPEC supply shocks. Volcker's attempt to re-set inflation expectations via shock treatment was only one of several factors.

pgl ->Dan Kervick...

"The reason the high inflation of the period was considered "bad" was that inflation at that high a level tends to be very jerky and somewhat unpredictable"

One of the reasons it was "jerky" had to do with really dumb periods of monetary restraint as in those stupid Ford WIN buttons. And yes Volcker killed off inflation but creating a massive and prolonged output gap. No magic - the kind of economic waste a model by James Tobin predicted. I was taking a class from Tobin back then and he loathed the Volcker regime.

Peter K. ->Peter K....

Steve Randy Waldman is an interesting and articulate blogger. I liked his take:

http://www.interfluidity.com/v2/4561.html

Paine ->Dan Kervick...

Cola cost of living adjustments in major contracts were capped back then

If you look at inflation patterns cost of living was hit very hard

Hint food and fuel

What is missing here. The solution

A Lerner type mark up market

Some day we collectivists will implement one

Paine ->Paine ...

I was in grad school from76 to 80

The hay day of NIARU
That folk loric sweet spot
where the rate of unemployment
just kept output price changes on a steady predictable path

Paine ->Paine ...

Of course the agenda called for ever lower cycle by cycle steady rates of out put inflation

And a bias in forecasting became de rigour

And the employment gap kept higher then post war targets

And
And

And it ended in fall 2008 !!

pgl ->anne...

Gerald Ford and those WIN buttons. I was young and naive back then but 1974 was the year I realized that we are ruled by idiots.

[Nov 17, 2015] Economists View Links for 11-17-15

Notable quotes:
"... And again! We are no longer saw mill mules, aircraft designers, and porno actresses. We have become the Bankers of World ! ..."
"... The idolatry of US capitalism profit from exploiting labor and collecting rents assured by the gumint that is paid only by labor. ..."
economistsview.typepad.com

pgl

How much sake did Noah Smith drink when he wrote this about Japan:

"Sustained higher inflation would represent a net transfer of resources from the old to the young. That would increase optimism, and hopefully raise the fertility rate, helping with demographic stabilization."

Optimism leading to more fertility - OK!

RC AKA Darryl, Ron said in reply to pgl...

"...Any of these solutions for raising inflation -- electronic money, "escape velocity," Neo-Fisherism -- would represent a dramatic departure from standard monetary policy. The latter two would also require a deep rethink of everything we know about macroeconomics..."

[Wouldn't a fiscal expansion backed by printing debt-free money create the inflation that they want? Why doesn't the Japanese government just print money to buy free sake for all of its married young people and solve both the inflation problem and the fertility rate problem at the same time? (joke)]

pgl said in reply to RC AKA Darryl, Ron...

Fiscal stimulus is the right solution to secular stagnation.

But whenever we suggest this - JohnH freaks out over the debt/GDP ratio. And yet he also says he is the only one for fiscal stimulus. Go figure.

likbez said in reply to pgl...

"Fiscal stimulus is the right solution to secular stagnation. "

Much depends on the price of the energy. There is a hypothesis that when EROEI crosses a certain threshold stagnation inevitably follows.

I think if the current drop of energy prices was engineered by Obama administration, we need radically rethink the statue of this "change we can believe in" President.

DrDick said in reply to pgl...

"That would increase optimism, and hopefully raise the fertility rate, helping with demographic stabilization"

This of course completely ignores the historical evidence that greater prosperity and economic security actually *lowers* the fertility rate. Indeed, the low birthrates in Japan, most of Europe, and white Americans (all generally below replacement rate) are a direct result of that.

RC AKA Darryl, Ron said in reply to DrDick...

We have actually had both. Off the top of my pointed little head the WWII post-war baby boom lasted through to the late fifties. That was more than just horny GIs returning home from war. It was a period of widespread prosperity that lifted all boats.

Now of course subsequently man invented more user friendly birth control than had in the immediate (WWII) post-war period, but we also urbanized the previously more rural black population and then we created poor family economic support with single-parent eligibility requirements. Children added, but dads subtracted from (total) income (including transfer payments) for poor families. More affluent families took advantage of birth control to increase their per capita wealth by keeping kiddy capita low.

That said then you are most probably quite correct about Japan. Japan's Gini coefficient is lower than the US but still higher than most of Europe. It seems like the more inequality that wealthy people have then the more inequality that wealthy people want. Increased prosperity can grow families when that prosperity is widespread and shared rather than narrowly distributed under stiff competition and hoarded.

Pharaoh's Joseph said in reply to Anonymous...

"now that credit spreads are back down to normal why should the Fed NOT raise rates?
"
~~Anonymous~

Is Our Most Important Export, Deflation?

How much framing lumber do we export? What is PM, profit margin on lumber? PM on aircraft? PM on B Movies? Which of our exports offers us our highest PM? That's it!

Highest PM is on our GTF. Using slight of hand, fed governors put ink onto paper to generate enough GTF, global Triffin fiat to foreign-exchange for Chinese Checkers, Canadian Checker Cabs, Korean Sports Cars, and Germanic VW Factories for Chattanooga.

ooga ooga!

Do you see how works? Brilliant foreigners exchange their counterfeit trash for our authentic cash. And we let them get away with it. Why?

We can afford to act lenient to them because of our 99% profit margin on GTF.

We must be careful, however, to print up less supply of GTF, less than demand. Smaller print job drives the buying-power-denominated-price of $$$$ up thus packing more deflation wallop into each dollar we print. More deflation you print, more popular our product becomes. When our product popularity increases then we get to play the game again.

And again! We are no longer saw mill mules, aircraft designers, and porno actresses. We have become the Bankers of World !

run75441 said in reply to Pharaoh's Joseph...

Profit without Labor

ilsm said in reply to run75441...

The idolatry of US capitalism profit from exploiting labor and collecting rents assured by the gumint that is paid only by labor.

[Nov 14, 2015] Where Feds Critics Got it Wrong in GOP Debate

Notable quotes:
"... Their low information voters like the idea of big bad gobinment agencies doing bad stuff to all of us and being responsible for whatever. The narratives always Trump reality. ..."
"... It all makes sense when the good of the few Trumps [means plundering of] the rest is considered a public good. When avarice meets reality it attacks with diverting ad hominem [e.g. brainwashed socialists, etc.] and ever worse logic fallacies. ..."
"... So you call it a successful policy...based on what? Stock prices are up? The wealthy have grabbed most of the income gains? ..."
"... [Net reductions in monthly mortgage expenses obtained from refinancing at low rates, consumer credit discounts for all variable rate interest lines of credit, short term small business cash flow balancing operating loans at prime rate. The wealthy got a little leverage trading done but only those that sold off stocks have made money from high stock prices. Those still holding shares may have nothing to gain except for losses.] ..."
"... A little?!? Take a look at the chart: Capital's share of national income. It has really taken off--well above the trend line of the last 40 years--since ZIRP and QE. ..."
"... But anyone with much experience in long term asset markets, such as the stock market or housing market, ought to realize that it is low inflation which tends to boost valuations for long term assets. The current very low inflation expectations are one of the main drivers behind high current US stock market valuations (using measures such as total market cap to GDP). ..."
"... As Krugman points out Murkan politics is dysfunctional, the GOP playing the Nazi role [from Weimar's demise]. ..."
Nov 14, 2015 | Economist's View

DeDude said...

Their low information voters like the idea of big bad gobinment agencies doing bad stuff to all of us and being responsible for whatever. The narratives always Trump reality.

ilsm said in reply to DeDude...

It all makes sense when the good of the few Trumps [means plundering of] the rest is considered a public good.
When avarice meets reality it attacks with diverting ad hominem [e.g. brainwashed socialists, etc.] and ever worse logic fallacies.

Like Lacker's screed on inflation, actually selling deflation.

JohnH said in reply to ilsm...

So you call it a successful policy...based on what? Stock prices are up? The wealthy have grabbed most of the income gains?

RC AKA Darryl, Ron said in reply to JohnH...

"...based on what?..."

[Net reductions in monthly mortgage expenses obtained from refinancing at low rates, consumer credit discounts for all variable rate interest lines of credit, short term small business cash flow balancing operating loans at prime rate.

The wealthy got a little leverage trading done but only those that sold off stocks have made money from high stock prices. Those still holding shares may have nothing to gain except for losses.]

JohnH said in reply to RC AKA Darryl, Ron...

The wealthy got a little leverage...

A little?!? Take a look at the chart: Capital's share of national income. It has really taken off--well above the trend line of the last 40 years--since ZIRP and QE.

No, Fed policy didn't cause increased inequality but it exacerbated it.

Now, please explain how "Net reductions in monthly mortgage expenses obtained from refinancing at low rates"...blah...blah translated into higher real median income per household, etc. You know, common measure of economic performance.

acerimusdux said...

Another right wing myth worth addressing is the idea that low interest rates cause asset bubbles.

But anyone with much experience in long term asset markets, such as the stock market or housing market, ought to realize that it is low inflation which tends to boost valuations for long term assets. The current very low inflation expectations are one of the main drivers behind high current US stock market valuations (using measures such as total market cap to GDP).

Looser money, because it encourages more inflation, should be expected to limit bubbles. Too tight monetary policy should be expected to cause them.

Right wing economics seems to be primarily based on first either ignoring or not understanding the importance of natural rates, and so blaming the Fed any time nominal rates seem low (or even moderate), and then on blaming anything else in the economy that seems to be wrong at them moment on those "low" rates (without any regard to logic, reason, or consistency).

Sad to see that even some Fed board members seem to be ignoring the importance of inflation in determing monetary policy. There is no sign at all yet of even meeting the inflation target in the CPI, PCE, or ECI, while the PPI continues to show deflation. Meanwhile market based measures (such as the breakeven rates) show expectations that continue to fall, with the Fed not expected by markets to meet it's target even within a decade. And some are still talking about hiking in December?

Ben Groves said in reply to acerimusdux...

It is hard to have inflation when commodity deflation is lowering inputs and we are having a nasty price war between Brick/Mortar and e-Commerce. That sounds like a large CPI decline (which means real retail sales are better than usual) that started in the 3rd quarter may accelerate in the 4th quarter. I am seeing prices of some foods, the lowest in 10 years. Milk is down to 15 year lows at some of my regions stores.

I don't think central banks though, think that is a bad thing. They only care about wage growth and their own trimmed inflation figures that factor in wage growth. So the Fed/Republicans are on the same page. Anything more is dialectics.

ilsm said...

As Krugman points out Murkan politics is dysfunctional, the GOP playing the Nazi role [from Weimar's demise].

[Sep 05, 2015] Fed Watch: If You Ever Wondered Whose Side The Federal Reserve Is On...

"...Real median weekly earnings have grown 8.6% since 1985. Nonfarm output per hour is up 79% over that time. Yet the instant that there is even a glimmer of hope that labor might get an upper hand, the Federal Reserve looks to hold the line on wage growth. It still appears that the Fed's top priority is making sure the cards remain stacked against wage and salary earners."
.
".When you recruit from the banksters, as the Fed does, you have to expect that their interests align with the kleptocratic rentiers."
.
"...Notice that the labor share of business income has declined by 10.6% since 2000, while real after-tax corporate profits have increased by 143.5%."
Sep 05, 2015 | Economist's View
Sep 05, 2015 | economistsview.typepad.com
Tim Duy:
If You Ever Wondered Whose Side The Federal Reserve Is On..., by Tim Duy: Catching up with Richmond Federal Reserve Jeffrey Lacker's speech. His dismissal of low wage growth numbers:
Some argue there must be excessive slack in labor markets if wage rates are not accelerating. But real wages are tied to productivity growth, and productivity growth has been slow for several years now. Wage growth in real terms has at least kept pace with productivity increases over that time period, which is perfectly consistent with an economy from which labor market slack has largely dissipated.

Real wage growth is consistent with productivity, thus there is no excess slack in the labor market. If you think this is some crazy hawk-talk, think again. Fed Chair Janet Yellen in July:

The growth rate of output per hour worked in the business sector has averaged about 1‑1/4 percent per year since the recession began in late 2007 and has been essentially flat over the past year. In contrast, annual productivity gains averaged 2-3/4 percent over the decade preceding the Great Recession. I mentioned earlier the sluggish pace of wage gains in recent years, and while I do think that this is evidence of some persisting labor market slack, it also may reflect, at least in part, fairly weak productivity growth.

For more than three decades, the pace of productivity growth has exceed that of real compensation:

Another view from real median weekly earnings:

Real median weekly earnings have grown 8.6% since 1985. Nonfarm output per hour is up 79% over that time. Yet the instant that there is even a glimmer of hope that labor might get an upper hand, the Federal Reserve looks to hold the line on wage growth. It still appears that the Fed's top priority is making sure the cards remain stacked against wage and salary earners.

Posted by Mark Thoma on Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 09:48 AM in Economics, Fed Watch, Monetary Policy | Permalink Comments (52)

pgl :

Let's unpack this spin:

"But real wages are tied to productivity growth, and productivity growth has been slow for several years now."

Productivity by definition is output per worker. So when a recession lowers output, it lowers measured productivity. So much for this garbage circular "reasoning".

Oh and the canard that JohnH does a lot - look at only what has happened of late:

"Wage growth in real terms has at least kept pace with productivity increases over that time period, which is perfectly consistent with an economy from which labor market slack has largely dissipated."

Tim Duy has already exposed this fallacy by looking at this over a longer period of time.

pgl -> Paine ...

Dude - this is a whole literature on this. Recessions do lower output by more than it lowers employment but this is not exactly because firms are nice. Recessions are bad news for everyone. Wages do not keep up with what is even limited inflation - again firms are not exactly nice. So recessions sort of screw firms but unbelievably screw workers. Eventually the economy gets back to full employment but workers never fully recovery.

This is why recessions are bad for everyone in the short fun but especially bad for workers short-run and long-run.

Which brings me to why I did not go after Yellen. It seems she and hubbie Akerlof have written some of the best papers on this topic.

Paine - stop being an arrogant lazy ass and actually check up on this literature.

Now if your point is that the FED borg (I coined this term) is about to take over Yellen's mind, I fear this too. It seems to have taken over Stan Fischer's mind and he used to be brilliant.

ilsm -> Paine ...

The fed hawks are like pentagon version hawks since 1946.....

we cannot have any more pearl harbors

or inflation......

DrDick :

DrDick :

When you recruit from the banksters, as the Fed does, you have to expect that their interests align with the kleptocratic rentiers.

mrrunangun :

Domestic US wage rates have been flat. In the graph, the lines cross between 1975 and 1985. During those years, international competition increased in the tradable goods sector, IMO due to the recovery of Japanese and European industrial economies from the destruction suffered in WWII. The divergence between the curves expands more rapidly as more free trade agreements come on line in the 90s (e.g. NAFTA in 1992 and PNTR for China in 1999).

It may be that intensifying competition in the tradable goods sector has slowed wage gains in the US by a supply and demand imbalance for labor. The increasing wage premium to education over the past 40 years and the capture of the domestic political system, and thus capture of the government, by the very rich, has made it impossible for the political system to make adjustments to the change in international competition that would benefit the unskilled or semiskilled worker.

Mike Sparrow -> mrrunangun...

The trade agreements are vastly overrated in terms of competition and instead, they are what help surge productivity. The US began to have offshoring in the 1950's, especially after the Korean war era boom. Companies began to bail as the US had developed a consumer base. This is very typical of capitalism. It happened in Europe in the 19th century because of the same reason.

Keeping a strong consumer base and industrial base would liquidate capitalist positions and turn the economy into laborism.

Mike Sparrow :

I would argue productivity is too high, still. Real productivity really zoomed from the mid-90's and really never came back down. The late 00's recession made it worse.

Persistently high productivity causes real wages to struggle to keep up. I think many hobbyists have it backwards with wages including myself. Yes, real wages rose rapidly between 1997-2000, but that was only because productivity surged. The long run problem of that was wage stagnation due to the previous high productivity, which has been there since the 80's. Real wage acceleration coupled with correcting productivity is a good sign and the Fed doesn't like it because they want high productivity all the time.

The Rage -> Peter K....

I think what he is trying to say, reading through his posts: technology is driving down the need for labor investment and the information/computer/plastic/whatever you want to call it revolution really drove that point home to the end.

So productivity is high, creating profits from reduced pace of hiring and keeping pipelines of credit open for future output. However, productivity is slowing lately and real wages have accelerated implicating that near term output will be higher than while future output will be lower. Yeah, that part is a bit confusing, but the drift is that productivity/real wages need to track together closer or you get problems. When they come unglued, the offender, this case productivity, needs to come down for wages to catch up. Real wages were to high before 1980 and productivity should run a bit higher than wages. So by 1995, the problems that helped spur the great inflation had ebbed, but a new problem started: rapid productivity growth.

I read this in 2009 believe it or not in a article. Their belief was if productivity stayed high and growing, the economy would be in permanent recession. They believed to maintain stability, productivity had to decline for the next decade. Mercy, I wish I could remember where I read that from. 6+ years leaves a large gap. I do think the chart shows the "panic" over slowed productivity is pure noise. Between 95-00 it when "boom boom". Notice the pre-95 trend and the post-95 trend. To the productivity must decline squad, a decline in productivity will help real wages rise boosting real incomes and reducing nominal debt, creating a more stable economy.

Dickeylee :

We are still in a slave labor economy. The whole world is looking for the next labor market to enslave. Nike in Vietnam, Apple in China, and China looks poised to take over Africa.

If you can't get your slaves shipped to you, go to your slaves!

pgl -> Dickeylee...

China looks poised to take over Africa? I guess the Chinese capitalists hate paying $3 an hour and so will pay Africans less. If you check - multinationals are in Africa and they are mainly US and European based companies. It seems we beat the Chinese to this.

ilsm -> pgl...

Pentagon deploying to keep the peace in Africa for the job creators........

Lafayette -> pgl...

PITY AFRICA

The plight of Africa is that it has been plundered by both Europe and America over the past two centuries. By America principally for cheap labor brought over on slave-ships.

Do not overlook the fact that damn few African countries can seem to develop a leadership that does not plunder its country's assets for their own personal profit.

This plague of profiteering has existed since time immemorial and China is just the newest entrant to the game ...

DrDick -> pgl...

China has been making significant inroads there for over a decade and are currently the largest single player there.

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-china-has-become-so-big-in-africa-2015-1

pgl -> Dickeylee...

Your comment actually has some merit in two senses. China has recognized that its habit of investing in government bonds of other nations (e.g. US) is giving them a lower return than what foreign direct investment offers. And Africa is attracting a lot of foreign direct investment. I went searching for who the big players are and this gave an interesting list:

http://theafricachannel.com/5-multinational-corporations-making-significant-investments-in-africa/

But it shows the BRIC nations (C for China) has been doing FDI in Africa for a while.

If multinationals are going global, maybe the labor movement should do the same. Workers of the world unite!

Julio :

Rasputin explained why the Fed must raise rates before the next recession, so it can lower them later:

"Certainly our Savior and Holy Fathers have denounced sin, since it is the work of the Evil One.
But how can you drive out evil except by sincere repentance?
And how can you sincerely repent if you have not sinned?"

anne :

https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=1Jpv

January 30, 2015

Labor Share of Nonfarm Business Income and Real After-Tax Corporate
Profits Per Employee, 2000-2015

(Respectively indexed to 2000 and 2014)


Decline in labor share index:

100 - 89.4 = 10.6%


Increase in real dollar profits per employee:

15,139 - 6,218 = 8,921

8,921 / 6,218 = 143.5%

anne -> anne...

Notice that the labor share of business income has declined by 10.6% since 2000, while real after-tax corporate profits have increased by 143.5%.

[Sep 05, 2015] Deflation and Money

"...Friedman and Schwartz were wrong about the cause and the cure of the Great Depression. Those who learned monetarism as the "new truth" are having a difficult time unlearning it. We need re-education courses for older economists and a new curriculum for younger ones."
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"...I don't have the neo-classical faith in the "natural" healing powers of the economy as some people do. Seems more likely that the economy would settle in to a lower equilibrium given enough fiscal austerity."
.
"...But what if the FED is a rational captain of corporate capitalism. Better then the opportunistic demagogues in the congress. But still dedicated to wage stag "
.
"..."if wage increases for the business sector as a whole lag behind productivity increases deflation occurs"..."
Sep 05, 2015 | Economist's View
The summary "Deflation and money" by Hiroshi Yoshikawa, Hideaki Aoyama, Yoshi Fujiwara, and Hiroshi Iyetomiof says:
Deflation and money, Vox EU: Deflation is a threat to the macroeconomy. Japan had suffered from deflation for more than a decade, and now, Europe is facing it. To combat deflation under the zero interest bound, the Bank of Japan and the European Central Bank have resorted to quantitative easing, or increasing the money supply. This column explores its effectiveness, through the application of novel methods to distinguish signals from noises.

The conclusion:

...all in all, the results we obtained have confirmed that aggregate prices significantly change, either upward or downward, as the level of real output changes. The correlation between aggregate prices and money, on the other hand, is not significant. The major factors affecting aggregate prices other than the level of real economic activity are the exchange rate and the prices of raw materials represented by the price of oil. Japan suffered from deflation for more than a decade beginning at the end of the last century. More recently, Europe faces a threat of deflation. Our analysis suggests that it is difficult to combat deflation only by expanding the money supply

bakho said in reply to pgl...

Monetary policy weak is at the ZLB. Fiscal and regulatory can have much stronger effects and complete swamp monetary like a tidal wave to a ripple.
Exchange rates and other economic shocks have more effect than monetary policy at the ZLB.

Friedman and Schwartz were wrong about the cause and the cure of the Great Depression. Those who learned monetarism as the "new truth" are having a difficult time unlearning it. We need re-education courses for older economists and a new curriculum for younger ones.

bakho said in reply to pgl...

Efficiency standards backed by a carbon tax would be much more effective that a carbon tax alone.
Efficiency standards work for electric appliances and prevent a races to the bottom.

pgl said in reply to bakho...

True. It seems Carly and Jeb! do not want to regulate but rather to encourage innovation by giving subsidies to rich people. Not only is this Republican reverse Robin Hoodism on steroids - it will not has as much effect as a tax combined with regulations.

Simply put - conservatives should not be listened to as their agenda is not economic efficiency but rather making the Koch Brothers ever richer.

Peter K. said...

As a thought experiment I would wonder what bakho's re-education course would look like.

There is this paper, but could it be it says the same thing as those graphs which show the large increases in the monetary base would just sit there with at the Zero Lower Bound because of the liquidity trap?

The inflationistas were wrong that all of that monetary policy would cause runaway inflation.

But considering what needed to be done to move long-term interest rates, was it really large enough?

David Beckworth's blogpost in today's links suggests the Fed did what they wanted to do.

http://macromarketmusings.blogspot.com/2015/09/revealed-preferences-fed-inflation.html

And maybe part of that was to offset the unprecedented fiscal austerity we say after Obama's stimulus ran out. (And that stimulus was pretty much canceled out by 50 little Hoovers.)

If monetary policy supposedly didn't move prices, I found it surprising that austerity didn't give us deflation as it did in Europe.

Maybe fiscal policy works better and more directly but if it is blocked or even reversed with austerity, monetary policy shouldn't be ruled because it is supposedly ineffective.

Maybe Friedman and Schwartz's maximalist claims aren't true, but that doesn't mean one should flip to the opposite extreme.

Bernanke says in a speech that Tobin suggested that the Fed could have mitigated the Great Depression by lowering long-term rates.

Peter K. said in reply to Peter K....

"What is the total number of months during the Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush I administrations, plus the first term of Clinton, when the unemployment rate was lower than today?"

http://www.themoneyillusion.com/?p=30495

https://twitter.com/ObsoleteDogma/status/639877889979228160

Peter K. said in reply to Peter K....

"The inflationistas were wrong that all of that monetary policy would cause runaway inflation."

When confronted they always say that once the economy normalized, all of those reserves will go rushing out into the economy causing inflation.

But the Fed says it will use Interest on Excess Reserves to manage that outflow.

Peter K. said in reply to Peter K....

"If monetary policy supposedly didn't move prices, I found it surprising that austerity didn't give us deflation as it did in Europe."

I don't have the neo-classical faith in the "natural" healing powers of the economy as some people do. Seems more likely that the economy would settle in to a lower equilibrium given enough fiscal austerity.

Paine said in reply to Peter K....

Very agreeably presented

But what if the FED is a rational captain of corporate capitalism. Better then the opportunistic demagogues in the congress. But still dedicated to wage stag

Egmont Kakarot-Handtke said...

Deflation? Uupps, price theory, too, is wrong
Comment on 'Deflation and Money'

The current economic situation is a clear refutation of both commonplace employment and quantity theory. The core of the unemployment/deflation problem is that the price mechanism does not work as standard economics claims.

The correct formula for the market clearing price in the simplified consumption good industry is given here
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AXEC41.png

Roughly, the formula says that the consumer price index declines if (i) the average expenditure ratio falls, (ii) the wage rate falls, (iii) the productivity increases, and (iv) the employment in the investment good industry shrinks relative to the employment in the consumption goods industry. The formula follows from (2014, Sec. 5).

The more differentiated and therefore better testable formula is given here
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AXEC39.png

The crucial message is that the wage rate is the numéraire of the price system. If at all, the quantity of money plays an indirect role via the expenditure ratio and the employment relation of the investment good and the consumption good industry.

The rule of thumb says: if wage increases for the business sector as a whole lag behind productivity increases deflation occurs (the rest of the formula kept constant).

For the rectification of the naive quantity theory see (2011) (I)/(II).

Egmont Kakarot-Handtke

References
Kakarot-Handtke, E. (2011). Reconstructing the Quantity Theory (I). SSRN Working Paper Series, 1895268: 1–28. URL http://ssrn.com/abstract=1895268.
Kakarot-Handtke, E. (2014). The Three Fatal Mistakes of Yesterday Economics: Profit, I=S, Employment. SSRN Working Paper Series, 2489792: 1–13. URL
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2489792.

Patrick said in reply to Egmont Kakarot-Handtke...

"if wage increases for the business sector as a whole lag behind productivity increases deflation occurs"

That certainly has the ring of truth to it.

The paradox of productivity?

Jason Smith said...

The relationship between money and prices is more complicated than a simple linear relationship can capture:

http://informationtransfereconomics.blogspot.com/2015/03/japan-inflation-update.html

spencer said...

Despite deflation in Japan, over the last five years real per capita GDP growth has been greater than in the US.

Of course you have to be careful of these types of comparisons when the Japanese population is actually falling.

anne said in reply to spencer...

https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=1LK4

August 4, 2014

Real per capita Gross Domestic Product for United States and Japan, 2010-2014

(Indexed to 2010)

[ These last 5 years real per capita GDP has increased by 5.6% in the United States and 3.6% in Japan. ]

Peter K. said in reply to spencer...

Good point. This is why I am skeptical when I read people claim that Japan's extraordinary monetary policy has had no effect.

And even if Japan has done more than before courtesy of Abe and Yoda Kuroda, they also mitigate it with contractionary policy like by raising consumption taxes.

[Sep 05, 2015] RE: Inflation, the Fed, and the Big Picture (Links for 09-04-15)

"...Much of Macro is still operating under the Friedman myth of Monetary policy domination. Monetary policy can have strong effects, but at other time Fiscal and Regulatory Policy are much stronger and needed for the best economic outcomes.
.
A problem with the US Fed is limited powers to set monetary and regulatory policy and it can be totally uncoordinated from fiscal and regulatory policy that are under control of Congress and the Executive. In the mid 1990s, the Fed and Clinton administration were using the same playbook and cajoled a reluctant Congress. Do the Fed an Executive even try to coordinate policy now? This Congress is the anti-Fed and operates on a playbook from the gamma quadrant. Total lack of policy coordination "
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"...1) Real asset prices have gone up a lot as a result of QE. Now they are headed down as QE is done with no real hope of another round.
2) Nominal and Real GDP are on the way up.
3) Inflation will be the last to respond. Waiting for inflation to show up is a mistake.
4) That still does not tell us the timing of getting off the zero bound. As I have said before, the Fed has let asset prices go up too much (much has been said including Shiller's recent analysis).
The stock prices are now coming down. The fact that Netflix (which has zero exposure to China) is down 25% should give pause to anyone who believes parts of the market are not in a bubble. Add to that crashing commodity prices and growth overseas in important economies. I think the Fed needs to wait and see how it shakes out. It = asset prices, commodity prices, EM growth and finally, how all this impacts US growth."
September 04, 2015 | Economist's View

RC AKA Darryl, Ron said...

RE: Inflation, the Fed, and the Big Picture

[Actually Carmen Reinhart deserves a better pitchman here than the little comment pgl posted above. Carmen presents a expressly well written and concise picture. Since it is international then the same focus on core CPI that we get for domestic inflation is not referenced nor implied. She includes commodities in the inflation. The full text following the short excerpt given by pgl is below:]


https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/jackson-hole-banking-conference-inflation-by-carmen-reinhart-2015-09

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Most of the other half are not doing badly, either. In the period following the oil shocks of the 1970s until the early 1980s, almost two-thirds of the countries recorded inflation rates above 10%. According to the latest data, which runs through July or August for most countries, there are "only" 14 cases of high inflation (the red line in the figure). Venezuela (which has not published official inflation statistics this year) and Argentina (which has not released reliable inflation data for several years) figure prominently in this group. Iran, Russia, Syria, Ukraine, and a handful of African countries comprise the rest.

The share of countries recording outright deflation in consumer prices (the green line) is higher in 2015 than that of countries experiencing double-digit inflation (7% of the total). Whatever nasty surprises may lurk in the future, the global inflation environment is the tamest since the early 1960s.

Indeed, the risk for the world economy is actually tilted toward deflation for the 23 advanced economies in the sample, even eight years after the onset of the global financial crisis. For this group, the median inflation rate is 0.2% – the lowest since 1933. The only advanced economy with an inflation rate above 2% is Iceland (where the latest 12-month reading is 2.2%).

While we do not know what might have happened were policies different, one can easily imagine that, absent quantitative easing in the United States, Europe, and Japan, those economies would have been mired in a deflationary post-crisis landscape akin to that of the 1930s. Early in that terrible decade, deflation became a reality for nearly all countries and for all of the advanced economies. In the last two years, at least six of the advanced economies – and as many as eight – have been coping with deflation.

Falling prices mean a rise in the real value of existing debts and an increase in the debt-service burden, owing to higher real interest rates. As a result, defaults, bankruptcies, and economic decline become more likely, putting further downward pressures on prices.

Irving Fisher's prescient warning in 1933 about such a debt-deflation spiral resonates strongly today, given that public and private debt levels are at or near historic highs in many countries. Especially instructive is the 2.2% price decline in Greece for the 12 months ending in July – the most severe example of ongoing deflation in the advanced countries and counterproductive to an orderly solution to the country's problems.

Median inflation rates for emerging-market and developing economies, which were in double digits through the mid-1990s, are now around 2.5% and falling. The sharp declines in oil and commodity prices during the latest supercycle have helped mitigate inflationary pressures, while the generalized slowdown in economic activity in the emerging world may have contributed as well.

But it is too early to conclude that inflation is a problem of the past, because other external factors are working in the opposite direction. As Rodrigo Vergara, Governor of the Central Bank of Chile, observed in his prepared remarks at Jackson Hole, large currency depreciations in many emerging markets (most notably some oil and commodity producers) since the spring of 2013 have been associated with a rise in inflationary pressures in the face of wider output gaps.

The analysis presented by Gita Gopinath, which establishes a connection between the price pass-through to prices from exchange-rate changes and the currency in which trade is invoiced, speaks plainly to this issue. Given that most emerging-market countries' trade is conducted in dollars, currency depreciation should push up import prices almost one for one.

At the end of the day, the US Federal Reserve will base its interest-rate decisions primarily on domestic considerations. While there is more than the usual degree of uncertainty regarding the magnitude of America's output gap since the financial crisis, there is comparatively less ambiguity now that domestic inflation is subdued. The rest of the world shares that benign inflation environment.

As the Fed prepares for its September meeting, its policymakers would do well not to ignore what was overlooked in Jackson Hole: the need to place domestic trends in global and historical context. For now, such a perspective favors policy gradualism.
Friday, September 04, 2015 at 02:44 AM

bakho said in reply to RC AKA Darryl, Ron...
Here conclusion was weak with a vague take home message.

Much of Macro is still operating under the Friedman myth of Monetary policy domination.

Monetary policy can have strong effects, but at other time Fiscal and Regulatory Policy are much stronger and needed for the best economic outcomes.
A problem with the US Fed is limited powers to set monetary and regulatory policy and it can be totally uncoordinated from fiscal and regulatory policy that are under control of Congress and the Executive. In the mid 1990s, the Fed and Clinton administration were using the same playbook and cajoled a reluctant Congress. Do the Fed an Executive even try to coordinate policy now? This Congress is the anti-Fed and operates on a playbook from the gamma quadrant. Total lack of policy coordination

pgl said in reply to bakho...
My take was that she was advocating more aggressive aggregate demand stimulus in general. And you are right - we need the fiscal side to step up to the plate.

Story in NYC as how bad just the subway stops are. The rails suck as well and we need to expand the system. But at the rate this is going this decaying stops which are very dangerous will not be fixed until 2065. Why? Lack of funding is the stated reason. No one in this stupid nation can say - well provide more funding? We are ruled by idiots.

RC AKA Darryl, Ron said in reply to bakho...
[Well, yeah but that would have diverged a long way from her topic:]

"Inflation – its causes and its connection to monetary policy and financial crises – was the theme of this year's international conference of central bankers and academics in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. But, while policymakers' desire to be prepared for potential future risks to price stability is understandable, they did not place these concerns in the context of recent inflation developments at the global level – or within historical perspective..."

[She stuck with just inflation and monetary policy because that is what she chose to write about at this time. However, Carmen is the other intellectual half of Rogoff of the debt limit for economic growth flameout. So, we should not depend upon her for fiscal policy recommendations. That even someone this popular with the establishment Republican elite can understand monetary policy is notable in contrast to the inflationistas.

Peter K. said in reply to RC AKA Darryl, Ron...
Yes she did the 90 percent government debt cutoff with Rogoff that Krugman attacked.

Also the vaguely righwing blogger from the St. Louis Fed, Andolfatto or something, recently had link where they said inflation wasn't a problem and the Fed shouldn't raise rates until inflation is apparent.

Peter K. said in reply to bakho...
"In the mid 1990s, the Fed and Clinton administration were using the same playbook and cajoled a reluctant Congress. "

I thought Clinton cut the deficit and the tech stock bubble helped balance the budget so they had surpluses. Some people say those surpluses were a problem because of a lack of safe assets. That drove money to seek safe returns in mortgage backed securities for instance.

Peter K. said in reply to Peter K....
Maybe he didn't cut the deficit - I think Dean Baker argues that - but at the beginning of his Presidency, Clinton dropped his middle class spending bill in a deal with Greenspan who said he'd keep interest rates low in return.
Peter K. said in reply to bakho...
"This Congress is the anti-Fed and operates on a playbook from the gamma quadrant."

haha yes. The Fed regularly complained about fiscal "headwinds."

Anonymous said in reply to RC AKA Darryl, Ron...
http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/Documents/quarterlybulletin/qb110301.pdf

Chart 1 is key to understanding the rough timing. In the US and UK, we are a little past the dashed vertical line (impact phase). UK has had a little more success importing inflation.

1) Real asset prices have gone up a lot as a result of QE. Now they are headed down as QE is done with no real hope of another round.
2) Nominal and Real GDP are on the way up.
3) Inflation will be the last to respond. Waiting for inflation to show up is a mistake.
4) That still does not tell us the timing of getting off the zero bound. As I have said before, the Fed has let asset prices go up too much (much has been said including Shiller's recent analysis).
The stock prices are now coming down. The fact that Netflix (which has zero exposure to China) is down 25% should give pause to anyone who believes parts of the market are not in a bubble. Add to that crashing commodity prices and growth overseas in important economies. I think the Fed needs to wait and see how it shakes out. It = asset prices, commodity prices, EM growth and finally, how all this impacts US growth.

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Fred C. Dobbs said...

(It's all about Japan?)

Nothing Non-Gold Can Stay - Paul Krugman

David Beckworth has a good post pointing out that the Fed has been signaling all along that the big expansion in the monetary base is a temporary measure, to be withdrawn when the economy improves. And he argues that this vitiates the effectiveness of quantitative easing, citing many others with the same view. My only small peeve is that you might not realize from his list that I made this point sixteen years ago, which I think lets me claim dibs. ...

Japan 1998 http://nyti.ms/R3W8GL via @NytimesKrugman

So, just for the record, here's the little
wonkish paper (pdf) I wrote back in 1998, the one that
alerted me to the danger of falling into a liquidity trap...

JAPAN'S TRAP Paul Krugman May 1998
http://www.princeton.edu/~pkrugman/japans_trap.pdf

Reply Wednesday, December 24, 2014 at 06:19 AM

Fred C. Dobbs said in reply to Fred C. Dobbs...

David Beckworth has a good post ...

http://macromarketmusings.blogspot.fr/2014/12/the-federal-reserves-dirty-little-secret.html

Matt Young said...

Is the Fed in a Trap?: I Really Cannot See It... - Brad DeLong
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That is now three times I hear the fear that it is 12003 all over again. So I checked the data.

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=Vo8

In this chart we see the key variables line up for 1993, same velocity, same deficit, same price deflator. It looks a lot like the situation when Brad was at treasury, you know, that time when Brad and Larry were cutting the budget, just before the economy took off.

And, one other thing, we have the same economic threat that Brad left in California, the Flounder threat; the Old Boat Anchor.

Reply Wednesday, December 24, 2014 at 06:59 AM

Matt Young said in reply to Matt Young...

Nothing Non-Gold Can Stay - Paul Krugman

"I wrote about this back in 2011, explaining why I devoted my efforts in 2009 to pushing for fiscal stimulus. It seemed obvious to me that the Fed viewed the crisis as temporary, and was just not going to be willing (or even able) to commit to a permanent change in policy, especially with all the sniping it faced from the right. And that's still true now, even after six years at the zero lower bound."
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Let's review the charts, shall we?


http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=Vog

We see growth dropping in 2011 while the stimulus was halfway finished but had one more leg too it. Oil prices were up, Illinois unemployment was climbing and inflation was above 2%. Then what happened?
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From Wiki:
The Budget Control Act of 2011 (Pub.L. 112–25, S. 365, 125 Stat. 240, enacted August 2, 2011) is a federal statute in the United States that was signed into law by President Barack Obama on August 2, 2011. The Act brought conclusion to the United States debt-ceiling crisis of 2011, which had threatened to lead the United States into sovereign default on or around August 3, 2011."
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The first data element we get is Q1 2012 and growth had returned. As we reduced the deficit, faster than Clinton ever did, growth remained stable until the deficit was near 3% of GDP, at which time growth took off, just like what Brad and Larry pulled off in 1993. In fact, it looks like we can think our lucky stars the Obama was from Illinois because he must have gotten a lot of complaints from home as Krugman's policies were driving up unemployment. It was shortly thereafter that Obama fired the Keynesians and began taking instructions from the New York banks, it is seems to have paid off.

So, yes, we did get a monetary regime change, we permanently locked out the stimulators from fouling up the fiat system worse then they had already fouled it up. Obama noticed that Bill Clinton did not rely on Keynesians and had much better success.

Reply Wednesday, December 24, 2014 at 07:18 AM

anne said in reply to Matt Young...

Keep the graphs, which are interesting, simply so they are easily understood:

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=Vol

Reply Wednesday, December 24, 2014 at 07:25 AM

anne said in reply to anne...

Correcting:

Keep the graphs, which are interesting, simple so they are easily understood:

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=Vol

Reply Wednesday, December 24, 2014 at 08:11 AM

anne said in reply to Matt Young...

Obama noticed that Bill Clinton did not rely on Keynesians and had much better success.

[ This is nonsense, of course. There is no reason to be malicious, just try to be simple so that you are understood. ]

Reply Wednesday, December 24, 2014 at 07:27 AM

pgl said in reply to anne...

Thanks for falling this piece of insanity from Matty Boy. He writes so many false pieces of garbage, it takes an entire army to keep up with the nonsense.

Reply Wednesday, December 24, 2014 at 07:31 AM

pgl said in reply to Matt Young...

OMG! Did you completely miss the take down of John Cochrane or what? Sure real GDP growth slowed. Why? State governments were in full blown austerity. Thanks for once again proving what we all have known from the beginning - you are incredibly clueless. Babble on!

Reply Wednesday, December 24, 2014 at 07:29 AM

anne said in reply to Matt Young...

Here is the graph simplified and clarified, do explain what the graph tells us simply and clearly with no metaphors to clud the explanation:

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=Vok

Reply Wednesday, December 24, 2014 at 07:22 AM

anne said in reply to anne...

Correcting:

Here is the graph simplified and clarified, do explain what the graph tells us simply and clearly with no metaphors to cloud the explanation:

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=Vok

Reply Wednesday, December 24, 2014 at 08:11 AM

pgl said in reply to Matt Young...

12003? Have you invented a time machine? Did you mean 2003? Then why babble about 1993? No - today's economy is not even remotely close to the situation either in 1993 or 2003. In 1993 - interest rates were much higher than they are now. So the FED was able to tell Clinton it would lower interest rates to offset any fiscal restraint. BIG difference. But of course you don't understand this. You don't understand anything. Babble on!

Reply Wednesday, December 24, 2014 at 07:26 AM

pgl said in reply to Matt Young...

How stupid is this rant? Consider the fact that interest rates fell from being over 8% in 1990 to only 3.5% by the end of 1993. Matt wants us to look at velocity but he entirely leaves out monetary policy in a commentary about fiscal policy. This has to be the dumbest thing I have EVER heard. If someone did this in a freshman economics class, the professor would call that person in and ask him to never set foot in the economics class again. That freshman would not only be wasting his own time - but he would be wasting everyone's time as well.

Matt - please never take economics. I'm afraid your professor would have to kill you.

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bakho:

2 Percent Inflation

Irwin is raising the correct questions.

Inflation cannot be steady. Higher inflation is needed to allow relative prices and wages to reset quickly after a big shock than in a stead state economy.

The housing bubble allowed BigF to gain too many claims on future goods and service through tricks of leverage and the taxpayer bailout. To bring the economy closer to pre-bubble stability, we need high inflation to inflate away the claims of BigF and to inflate away the debt they wrongly imposed on homeowners students and others. If wages were on trajectory to be twice as high in 2028 as in 2008, the balance sheet overhang would clear more rapidly. Relative housing prices could settle faster.

Peter K. said in reply to bakho.

Agree, good post by Neil Irwin.

"Yet even as the idea of a 2 percent target has become the orthodoxy, a worrying possibility is becoming clear: What if it's wrong? What if it is one of the reasons that the global economy has been locked in five years of slow growth?

Some economists are beginning to consider the possibility that 2 percent inflation at all times leaves central banks with too little flexibility to adequately fight a deep economic malaise."

Some have been considering it for a while now.

"At the time, the idea of a central bank simply announcing how much inflation it was aiming for was an almost radical idea. After all, central bankers had long considered a certain man-behind-the-curtain mystique as one of their tools of power.

The inflation goal may have reduced that mystique, but it created a kind of magic of its own. Merely by announcing its goals for inflation, and giving the central bank the independent authority to reach that goal, New Zealand made that result a reality. In negotiations over wages or making plans for price increases, businesses and labor unions across New Zealand started assuming that inflation would indeed be around 2 percent. It thus became self-fulfilling, with wages and prices rising more slowly."

Making the target more explicit is making it more accountable and democratic instead of Greenspan's mysticism. It also argues against those like our insufferable Matt Young who insist the Fed has no power to effect inflation. Or Dan Kervick. Or Krugman lately (see today's wonkish post).

bakho said in reply to Peter K....

The core issue is level of Demand. Wage inflation does not hit the 2% target because there are large pools of underemployed ready to move to jobs that meet their skills and a large number of unemployed. Demand for goods and services in not high enough to induce companies to bid up wages other than in remote areas.

Lack of Demand drives up the risk premium for investment. No company is going to invest in more production or hire additional workers to increase output if there is excess and accumulating inventory. Companies will not invest if projected return is negative no matter the interest rate or money supply. The Fed does not have the authorization to make negative interest loans to the states or individuals or to back high risk loans (like the GI Bill business loans) are utilize many of the channels by which money could be placed more directly in the hands of people who have unmet demands and would spend the money. Instead, the Fed is stuck with channeling money through the banks who won't loan if demand is insufficient as to make loan repayment unlikely.

Low demand increases the risk premium on investments. Until demand is higher, loans won't be made and monetary policy will operate ineffectively on a blocked channel.

Demand must be increased and that requires Congress and fiscal policy.

Peter K. said in reply to bakho...

"Demand for goods and services in not high enough to induce companies to bid up wages other than in remote areas."

Except as I understand it wages are going up a very small amount which is why the hawks want the Fed to raise interest rates by June.

I agree Congress and fiscal policy would be the better, more equal and direct route to boosting the economy. But the Krugman seems to say the Fed could raise inflation expectations to 3 percent and make a permanent increase in the price level if it wanted to. What it could do now is not raise rates.

Why Is Inflation So Low

August 01, 2013 Econbrowser

For some people this is a tough question; that's because they're using the wrong framework

The GDP revisions boosted the level of output, and more interestingly, raised the measured pace of growth since the end of the recession. Figure 1 shows the trajectory of real GDP, normalized to 2009Q2, the trough of the last recession.

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Figure 1: Log GDP from 2013Q2 advance release (blue), from 2012Q1 3rd release (red), both normalized to 2009Q2=0. NBER defined recession dates shaded gray. Source: BEA, NBER, author's calculations.

While the measured pace of growth is faster than previously reported, what's true is that output growth is still pretty tepid. As Jim notes, in a mechanical sense had fiscal drag been less, growth would have been measurably faster.

I think these observations link in with a puzzle often remarked upon -- why is inflation so low and declining?

rev2.png
Figure 2: Quarter on quarter annualized inflation, measured by personal consumption expenditure deflator (blue), CPI (red), and chained CPI (green), measured as log differences. Quarterly data is averages of monthly data. NBER defined recession dates, shaded gray. Sources: BEA, BLS, NBER, and author's calculations.

I think this is only a puzzle for those who believe that potential GDP has shrunk considerably so that there is little slack in the system. For the rest of us, it's the large amount of slack that is the answer. In the past I've shown output gap relative to potential as measured by CBO; here I plot in addition potential output implied by an alternative approach, inferred from observed inflation.

Steven

I think inflation is not low, but only seems low...

pete

My main problem is adding in the bubble data to the GDP numbers. Since the bubble and crash were errors of great magnitude, then using, say peak employment during the bubble or the horrid trough is kind of weird. Seems like a much longer trend is desirable. Of course, by some thinking the bubble begain in 1996, the date of the coined irrational exuberance. Then there was (finally) a securities burst in 2000, and (really finally) a housing burst in 2007. Seems that pre 1996 benchmarks might be required.

2slugbaits

jonathan There are many here on this board who believe just that. I don't want to mention any names, but some of their initials include Ricardo and Steven Kopits. The latter has said many times that he does not believe GDP growth is weak because of weak aggregate demand, but is supply constrained because we don't have enough oil. And then there's Ricardo who can't get past a world of 1979 style stagflation, which he blames on Komrade Bernanski and his fellow helicopter Kommissars at the Central Committee known as the FOMC. And of course more than a few on this board blame that atheist Islamic pinko gay married socialist in the White House taking away Medicare and cramming socialized medicine down the throats of uncertain business owners.

Ricardo

Slack is just another way of describing the manifestation of malinvestment. When we are in an economic decline with broken mechanisms of credit transmission there simply can be no inflation. What Keynesians do not understand is that if the government picks up the "slack" of malinvestment through government spending and paying workers to be unemployed it does nothing to increase produciton. It only moves the waste of malinvestment into the government and makes the taxpayers ultimately pay for the waste.

During the Bush years I was very concerned about inflaiton and even at the start of the Obama administration because of the massive monetary expansion, but monetary expansion can only create inflation if it can get into the productive economy. In today's depressed economy and over-leveraged asset debt loads monetary supply increases go into excess bank reserves and, as Steven points out, an inflated stock market.

Edward Lambert

Funny, I have spent the last day thinking about the low inflation...

I will use this log graph of inflation, unit labor costs and labor share for this comment. (1970 to present) http://research.stlouisfed.org/fredgraph.png?g=l7Q

So why low inflation? Inflation basically depends upon

  1. enough money in the economy to support it,
  2. enough wages or credit consumption in the hands of labor to support it,
  3. expectations of inflation and
  4. purchasing behavior.

As for #1, we see that lending is not getting enough money into the economy and into the hands of labor, the consumers.

As for #2, we see that low wages and de-leveraging do not support more inflation.

As for #3, the driving force behind consumption is labor, and labor does not have expectations of higher wages. They have expectations of lower wages.

Then as for #4, prices are a reflection of the consumer's fear to not spend more on items than they are accustomed to within their budget. Labor share has fallen 5% since the crisis. Total labor hours are still the same as 15 years ago. The consumer has weak purchasing power on balance. Here is a conceptual equation for inflation. Inflation = (unit labor cost - labor share)/(utilization of labor and capital).

http://effectivedemand.typepad.com/ed/2013/05/the-price-spaces-of-the-effective-demand-model.html

According to this equation, increased utilization of labor and capital will tend to lower inflation. As you increase supply using more factors of production, prices decline, all else being equal. We now have a situation where real GDP growth is dependent upon increased labor hours and capital utilization because productivity has been flat for 3 years. So the equation above is holding true and inflation is tracking downward at the rate the equation would predict. Increased utilization of labor and capital is depressing inflation.

Normally unit labor costs rise in relation to labor share. It's the normal result of labor market forces in an expanding economy. Inflation is nudged ever higher by those forces. Inflation = unit labor cost/labor share

http://effectivedemand.typepad.com/ed/2013/05/labor-share-inflation-unit-labor-costs.html

Over the years though, unit labor costs have been growing more slowly. There was an abrupt slowdown during the Volcker recession. See log graph at start of comment.

The long-run suppression of wages and labor hours is reflected in lower unit labor costs, weakening the purchasing power of labor and this then feeds back to push down inflation. Lower wage power and lower inflation is a self-reinforcing dynamic over time. Easy credit hid this dynamic before the crisis, but not now.

2slugbaits

Ricardo.

Since the short-term nominal interest rate is already at the zero lower bound, exactly how would a higher interest rate and less government spending redirect "malinvestment" toward more productive uses? Everything we know about interest rates tells us that higher rates only lead to evermore idle capital. Or are you saying that idle capital is evidence of good investment and employed capital is evidence of malinvestment? And of course you can divine good investment from "malinvenstment"?

During the Bush years I was very concerned about inflaiton and even at the start of the Obama administration because of the massive monetary expansion, but monetary expansion can only create inflation if it can get into the productive economy.

With this single sentence you have shown why your understanding of the Great Recession is completely wrongheaded. The conditional statement "...if [money] can get into the productive economy" tells us all we need to know. Apparently it took awhile for you to realize that the economy was in a recession and the nominal rate was at the ZLB. What?

You thought that Bernanke just wanted to expand the money supply for the hell of it? The liquidity trap at the ZLB is at the heart of the problem, not just some little, perhaps inconsequential, piece of information that you forgot to take into account. You worried about inflation because your model was (and still is) completely wrong. Instead of going through all kinds of mental gymnastics to salvage what's left of a half-baked Austrian theory of economics, why not admit that a Keynesian (even an Old School Keynesian) framework got it right?

Let's face it...Hayek and von Mises is economics for sophomores engaging in dorm room BS sessions. I'm guessing that it's been a long time since you were a sophomore. Time to move on.

Edward Lamber

Menzie, I posted more thoughts with graphs at this link... http://angrybearblog.com/2013/08/why-is-inflation-so-low-asks-menzie-chinn.html

Steven Kopits

Slugs -

I hadn't commented here.

However, I do believe that growth is limited by the binding constraint and that, in this case, oil is the binding constraint.

I read many things, including Zero Hedge. I don't agree with everything said there (or here), but Tyler Durden's tenacity, commitment and effort is simply breathtaking, and he has both broken a number of econ related stories and followed some important stories from my perspective (to wit, Cyprus) that others haven't.

The Rage

Inflation is "low" because it is a lagging indicator and global energy consumption is down. Inflation is as much a "global" indicator as a national one.

The US economy clearly is picking up speed. Government data lags are showing as the 2010-12 upward revisions in GDP is saying.

Malinvestment is a myth. All investment is malinvested then.

Vangel

Why Is Inflation So Low?

It isn't. If we use the pre-1980 methodology inflation comes out to around 10%, which is hardly benign.

But let us ignore that inconvenient fact and look at the inflation argument. Inflation is defined as an increase in the supply of money and credit. Nobody can deny we have seen an explosion on that front. The confusion lies in expectations. The Keynesians believe that the increase in money and credit has to manifest itself as increasing prices for consumer goods. But this is not true. When you have great increases in productivity we expect prices to actually fall as they have for items like TVs, i-Pods, or Personal Computers. Just like the late 1920s, the great inflation in the supply of money and credit is preventing such price declines and keeping the prices of many goods much higher than they should be.

But it gets worse than that. The great increase in money and credit has made its way into other parts of the economy. In the bond market we now have the greatest bubble in history. Housing has also seen the creation of another bubble as institutions with access to cheap borrowing have purchased properties that would be pooled to create rental units that can create a pool of income that can be securitized and sold to unsuspecting investors reaching for yield in a ZIRP environment. Equities have risen to record high levels even though earnings are growing weaker and companies are having a huge problem with revenue growth. That makes three bubbles and we have yet to look at prices for health care, insurance, education, and other services.

Sorry Menzie but you are missing the inflation.

[Aug 15, 2013] Key Measures Show Low Inflation in July

Inflation is always under-reported.

adornosghost

Lurking Lawyer wrote:

Inflation is always under-reported.

"Capex compression is a term we use to describe the reduction of upstream spending by the oil companies when their exploration and production costs are rising faster than their oil revenues. That's what's happening today. Hess is divesting oil producing properties to increase profits; BP has shelved the deepwater Mad Dog Phase 2 project in the Gulf of Mexico.

This is occurring because oil prices haven't been increasing, and costs have. So oil companies are looking at their portfolio of projects and deciding to postpone or cancel some of them.

Were the oil supply rising quickly and oil prices falling, this sort of capital restraint would be normal-the usual boom-bust cycle of the industry. But oil is still in short supply, and very few of the large oil companies have been able to hold oil production over the last few years-even as they were investing massively in oil exploration and production.

Now, they are actually reducing investment in upstream projects, even in the face of historically high oil prices and falling production. That's capex compression."

Fed Watch: Is Inflation a Consideration?

Economist's View

Is Inflation a Consideration?, by Tim Duy: The decision of the Fed to define a time line for tapering given the low inflation numbers has been something of a puzzle. Cleveland Federal Reserve President Sandra Pianalto provides a concise explanation of that puzzle in her speech today:

Last fall, the FOMC initiated a third round of asset purchases. In this program, which is often referred to as "QE3," we are purchasing $85 billion of Treasury securities and mortgage-backed securities per month. This policy was designed to drive some near-term momentum in the economy with the specific goal of achieving a substantial improvement in the outlook for the labor market.

Labor market data comes in every month and is subject to different interpretations. In my view, there has been meaningful improvement in both current labor market conditions and in the outlook for the labor market since the FOMC launched the current asset purchase program. Employment growth has been stronger than I was expecting, and the unemployment rate today is more than half a percent lower than I projected it to be last September.

In light of this progress, and if the labor market remains on the stronger path that it has followed since last fall, then I would be prepared to scale back the monthly pace of asset purchases.

Thus, according to Pianalto, QE3 was never about inflation, but instead was always about the labor market. And, by her assessment, they can roll out the "Mission Accomplished" banner. In short, the improvement in the labor market - or, more specifically, the stability of the labor market in light of fiscal contraction - is a driving force in the tapering decision. Hence why officials are not willing to end speculation on a September taper despite no evidence that inflation is trending back toward the Fed's target in a timely fashion.

Inflation management, it would seem, is a problem that many policymakers simply think is a task best left for interest rate policy.

Where is inflation By Noureddine Krichene

"...each interest group chooses the inflation indicator that best fits its cause. ". There are two types inflation: asset price inflation (financial bubbles) and consumer price inflation. The author is arguing that asset price inflation is more deadly for economy.
Asia Times Online

Where is inflation? This is the question floated by the media based on US consumer price statistics, which show that the Federal Reserve's trillions of dollars in money injection and near-zero interest rates have not triggered the feared inflation. Some media put it as "the dog that did not bark".

As core inflation has remained at the magical 1% for the past decade, media pundits have suggested that the Fed could step its quantitative easing until core inflation exceeds the target of 2.5% per year. In fact, the question of "where is inflation?" is similar to looking for an object among an infinity of objects.

Austrian economist Ludwig von Mises pointed out that there are millions of goods and services in the economy which are exchanged for money, out of which one can make millions of different price indices; each interest group chooses the inflation indicator that best fits its cause.

If a policy maker wants to boast price stability, then he cites core inflation, which excludes core food and energy products; this has been maintained at 1% per year in the past decade; if one wants to trigger inflation alarm, then one may cite housing and stock price inflation, which have been at a two-digit annual rate of 20% since early 2012.

Very low core inflation at around 1% per year did not prevent the financial collapse of 2008 and the drawn out economic recession that followed. Similarly, very low consumer price inflation in 1926-29 did not prevent the 1929 crash and the ensuing Great Depression. In 1929 as well as in 2008, asset price inflation was lethal and flared up in the context of very low consumer price inflation.

Some actions are basically wrong and one should not wait for disaster to happen to renounce them. For instance, smoking two packs of cigarettes per day is not recommended; one should not wait for cancer to spread to reduce smoking. Likewise addiction to drugs is not recommended; one should not force higher doses until brain damage occurs. Massive money printing is basically wrong, creates inflationary pressure, and is conducive to economic disorders.

Many economists have dismissed inflation as an indicator for prudent money policy. The so-called textbook Taylor rule (a guideline for interest rate manipulation) has long been repudiated by many economists including late professor and Nobel Prize winner Milton Friedman. Very low inflation is not an indicator of banking stability nor is very high inflation an indicator of bank fragility. Panics and bank runs may hit one bank and spread to the whole banking system in the context of very low inflation or even deflation.

The failure of the banking system causes loss of wealth to depositors, loss of financial capital, and therefore economic dislocation. In some countries, inflation may be very high because of monetization of large fiscal debt by the central bank; however, the private banking remains very safe because the interest rate and credit structure is not corrupted by distorted central bank policies.

The late Professor Charles Kindleberger described episodes of high asset price inflation and stable or declining wholesale and consumer prices indices in the US for 1927-1929, Japan 1985-89, and Sweden 1985-89. He noted that central banks failed to intervene to arrest asset price inflation, essentially for two reasons: central banks never undermine a stock market boom, and they are concerned only with consumer price inflation.

He pointed out that the consequences of asset price inflation were financial crises and economic turmoil. He wrote,

"When speculation threatens substantial rises in asset prices, with possible collapse in asset markets later and harm to the financial system, monetary authorities confront a dilemma calling for judgment, not cookbook rules of the game."

When we address the question "where is inflation?" as "the dog which did not bark", we are bewildered by the traditional controversy about inflation, its measurement, and its political objective. As Mises pointed out in many of his writings, there are millions of prices and consequently millions of price indices; each price index will serve the cause a party stands for. Moreover, there are many definitions of money aggregates; each aggregate affects differently inflation.

We should note that the quantity theory of money is a long-run relationship, that holds tightly over a long period, between money aggregates and general levels of prices. It is an empirical fact that "inflation dogs" do not bark instantaneously when thieves sneak into the property; some dogs bark after some delay - with the thieves already leaving or having departed with the spoils; others may bark with an even longer delay.

While consumer price inflation measurement was less controversial in the '60s and '70s and led to price controls under the Richard Nixon administration, this concept was stripped and limited to core inflation; moreover, the notion of substitution has been introduced among groups of products. For instance, if the price of leather shoes increases then the statistician assumes consumers will buy plastic shoes whose price has dropped. Apprehending price increases may be elusive; for instance, bus fares remain the same; however, passengers are no longer issued transfer passes for other bus lines. In this case, is the price increase zero percent or is it 100%?

Undeniably, the question of where is inflation depends on which inflation one is looking for and the time span for measuring it. If one considers airfares cross the Atlantic, then prices have risen by more than 100% since 2011. If one is interested in the same airfares during the past three months, then the rate of increase is very small.

Likewise, if one is interested in crude oil prices since early 2009, then the overall increase is 133%; if one is interested in the rate of increase of crude oil prices for the past year, then it is 16%. Similarly, if one is interested in the price of soybeans since early 2009, then it is 72%; for the past year, it is 9.3%. For corn, the overall price increase since 2009 is 66%, and 9% for the past year.

If we omit groupings and use money, which buys every product and service, as a measure of inflation, then the rate of growth of US M1 money supply has been 12% in the past year.

Where is growth? The answer is totally disappointing. Trillions of dollars in new money and near-zero interest rates combined with trillions of dollars in fiscal deficits failed to bring about economic growth. Average real growth in the US during 2009-2012 was 0.8% per year; in the euro-zone a negative 0.4% per year; and in Japan 0.15% per year.

The spectacular stock market boom underway is fueled purely by the Fed's massive money printing and has no connect to the real economy; the average return on stocks at about 20% a year is pure redistribution of wealth as it far exceeds the real return of the economy at about 0.8% a year.

The dismal growth performance shows the deep inefficiencies of the Fed's policies. A simple truth is growth and employment need real capital; Fed's money printing and near-zero interest rates have not made real capital more abundant. Will the fall in real per capita income be reversed through more of the Fed's money creation? This is what is promised by the Fed. Money creation is a panacea to all diseases and is the path to economic prosperity, says the US Federal Reserve. So then must be looting and counterfeiting.

A central banker can be as arrogant as they come and as obstinate as an ass. The Fed will keep printing trillions of dollars and forcing near-zero interest rates till the end of the world. The question of "where is inflation?" will have the usual answer: there is none.

Undeclared inflation will encourage borrowers to step up their borrowing. Borrowers are favored by near-zero interest rates, high true inflation, and by defaulting as usual on monumental loans. It is a free for all: grab as much as you can. As has become fully admitted, the Fed will buy all failing loans. It is wealth redistribution via the Fed's money printing.

Noureddine Krichene is an economist with a PhD from UCLA.

[Apr 07, 2013] Rajiv Sethi: Haircuts on Intrade

This is not a bank, it is a betting site but still interesting development...
Economist's View

Betting markets aren't really my thing, but many people seem to like the topic, so let me take advantage of Rajiv Sethi's kind permission to echo his posts:

Haircuts on Intrade, by Rajiv Sethi: When Intrade halted trading abruptly on March 10, my initial reaction was that the company had commingled member funds with its own, MF Global style, in violation of its Trust and Security Statement. I suspected that these funds were then dissipated (or embezzled), leaving the firm unable to honor requests for redemption.

The latest announcement from the company confirms that something along these lines did, in fact, occur:

We have now concluded the initial stages of our investigations about the financial status of the Company, and it appears that the Company is in a cash "shortfall" position of approximately US $700,000 when comparing all cash on hand in Company and Member bank accounts with Member account balances on the Exchange system.

A shortfall of this kind could not have emerged if member funds had been kept separate from company funds. As it stands, the exchange is technically insolvent and faces imminent liquidation.

But the company is looking for a way to "rectify this cash shortfall position" in hopes of resuming operations and returning to viability. It has requested members with large accounts to formally agree to allow the exchange to hold on to some portion of their funds indefinitely:

The Company has now contacted all members with account balances greater than $1000, and proposed a "forbearance" arrangement between these members and the Company, which if sufficient members agree, would allow the Company to remain solvent...

By Tuesday, April 16, 2013, we expect to be able to inform our members if sufficient forbearance has been achieved. If so, we will then resume limited operations of the Company and we will be able to process requests for withdrawals as agreed. If sufficient forbearance has not been achieved, it seems extremely likely that the Company will be forced into liquidation.

So traders find themselves in a strategic situation similar to that faced by holders of Greek sovereign debt a couple of years ago. If enough members accept the proposed haircut, then the remaining members (who do not accept) will be able to withdraw their funds. The company might then be able to resume operations and eventually allow unrestricted withdrawals. But if enough forbearance is not forthcoming, the company will be forced into immediate liquidation.

What should one do under such circumstances? As Jeff Ely might say, consider the equilibrium. The best case outcome from the perspective of any one member would be immediate reimbursement in full. But this can only happen if the member in question denies the company's request, while enough other members agree to it. As long as members can't coordinate their actions, and each believes that his own choice is unlikely to be decisive, it makes no sense for any of them to accept the haircut. Liquidation under these circumstances seems inevitable.

On the other hand, what choice do members really have? Although their funds are senior to all other claims on the firm's assets, the cash shortfall will prevent such claims from being honored in full. And since members are scattered across multiple jurisdictions and lack the power to coordinate their response, even partial recovery through litigation seems improbable. Facing little or no prospect of getting anything back anytime soon, some might choose to roll the dice one last time.

The obvious lesson in all this is that in the absence of vigorous oversight, "trust and security" statements can't really be trusted to provide security.

High price of bailout dawns on Cypriots

FT.com

...But it was widely accepted that the conditions attached to the agreement would turn the bedrock of Cyprus' economy – its offshore financial industry – to rubble.

Cyprus's economy could shrink 15 per cent this year, and then 5 per cent in 2014, predicted Fiona Mullen, a local economist who heads Sapienta Research.

Michala Marcussen, economist at Société Générale, foresaw a 20 per cent contraction by 2017, and warned: "Cyprus will in all likelihood require additional financial assistance further down the road."

A downturn would reduce tax receipts and make Cyprus's debt load even heavier relative to its GDP, argued Raoul Ruparel, an economist at the Open Europe think-tank, warning there was "a strong chance Cyprus could become a zombie economy – reliant on eurozone and ECB funding to function".

Cypriots themselves expressed disbelief and a deepening sense of betrayal as they contemplated what their lenders – the International Monetary Fund, the ECB and the European Commission – were calling a "rescue".

"I understand they wanted to destroy our financial model . . . but it did not have to be done in one night," said one financier. "It's going to be chaos."

Like others, he questioned how a country – deprived of an industry that accounts for about three-quarters of its economy – would have the means to repay its new loans.

Cyprus invented the offshore industry in the 1980s in the wake of another historic disaster that upended its economy: Turkey's 1974 invasion of the island. The system was built on a low corporate tax rate and – some say – a lax attitude toward money laundering by Russians and other foreign clients.

The bailout, which will lead to the liquidation of its second-largest bank and haircuts of 30 per cent or more on large deposits, appears to have fatally undermined trust in the sector.

"The banking system is collapsed and I don't think we can find a way to bring the customers back. This system is finished," said Adanos Seraphides, managing director of Fameline Investments, which controls a shipping services company that employs 120 people. "We have to try to reinvent something."

Cyprus is sitting on potentially vast natural gas reserves in the Mediterranean, although it could be years before they are developed – a process that has been complicated by lingering territorial disputes with Turkey. Meanwhile, analysts say its tourism industry, its other engine, is held back by higher costs associated with the euro.

Months before the bailout, Cyprus's economy was under pressure from its exposure to nearby Greece. The surprise news last week that creditors were seeking to raid the country's bank deposits to lower the cost of a rescue brought commercial activity to a standstill.

With banks closed for the last 10 days, businesses and consumers have been forced to operate on a cash basis, making even the most routine transactions challenging. Cash machines operated by the two largest banks have limited daily withdrawals to €100 and €120 per customer. Supplies of food and other basic items have been interrupted, leading some citizens into a panicked stockpiling.

The bailout will allow banks to begin reopening this week. Yet customers will still be constrained by the imposition of capital controls that will limit their ability to withdraw money, shift it among accounts or send it across borders.

"We are in the shipping industry – we have to make payments every day. We need flexibility," Mr Seraphides said. "A lot of our suppliers are already asking for pre-payment, which has made our life very difficult."

Like other Cypriots, he argued that the country should now plot a way out of the euro.

In an interview with Bloomberg, Christopher Pissarides, Cyprus's Nobel Prize-winning economist, appeared to agree. "We should sit down and think very carefully about the future of this country and whether it's better to be within the eurozone or without," Mr Pissarides said.

"We have seen that if you run into trouble you're not necessarily going to be rescued in a way that's most beneficial to your economy."

Opinion A hard landing for Cyprus World DW.DE 25.03.2013

Lost trust

The Cyprus bailout, at least in the form that was decided Monday morning, represents a drastic policy shift in the fight against the still-smoldering Euro crisis. For the first time, money is being taken directly from bank clients - without their permission - to unwind ailing banks. Investors with more than 100,000 euros in their accounts at the Laiki Bank, also known as Cyprus Popular Bank, will lose the majority of their money. Laiki, Cyprus' second-largest bank, is being phased out.

For bank clients throughout Europe, the signal is clear: Your money isn't truly safe anymore, because when nations are close to bankruptcy they will take whatever they can get their hands on. For banks, the signal is different. No longer will institutions that have bet and lost money in the capital market casino be saved at all costs. That had previously been the case with Greece, Italy and Spain.

There are a few catches. The majority stakeholder of Laiki is the state of Cyprus. The money Cyprus is losing will be returned in the form EU and IMF rescue packages. Numerous pension funds on the island also have their money invested at Laiki Bank. It won't be possible to simply confiscate those deposits. Whether the unwinding of Laiki will ultimately release the promised 4.2 billion euros has yet to be seen.

As for the European Central Bank (ECB), it's in a nice position. It had previously provided nine billion euros in loans to prop up Laiki Bank. Those debts will now be assumed by The Bank of Cyprus. In any event, the loans funded by European taxpayers will be serviced.

Exit a better solution for Cyprus

For Cyprus, then, the price of remaining in the currency union is high. Economically speaking, it would probably make more sense for the small island to leave the union and start fresh with its own, devalued currency. The other 16 nations that share the euro, however, were not ready for such an extreme step. They feared a global loss in trust in the eurozone. Nobody can predict the effect of a Cyprus exit.

From a purely economic perspective, Cyprus is of little relevance to the eurozone – and "systemically" speaking, not at all. EU nations don't need to fear the so-called domino effect of a Cyprus bankruptcy since Cypriot banks have hardly any debts abroad. Over time, branches of Cypriot banks in Greece will be split off.

Most agree that the crisis management of the eurozone, as well as that of Cyprus's government, was a disaster. Recent dramatic maneuvers were both harmful and unnecessary. They destroyed a lot of trust inside eurozone and well beyond it.

But banks in Cyprus could not be saved in their previous incarnations. That much has been clear since June 2012, when Cyprus applied for aid because of the losses it bore in the wake of Greece's rescue. The Cypriot government negligently delayed dealing with those issues - and the eurozone tolerated it. Only the ECB's ultimatum of a complete cessation of Cyprus aid proved enough of a wake-up call.

This process has shown that the ECB is in charge - and not finance ministers. And that is not a good development. After all, who controls the ECB?

The parliaments in Germany, the Netherlands and Finland still have to pass the Cyprus deal, which they likely will. The Cypriot parliament won't have any say at all. This will surprise some parliamentarians and make the Cypriots even angrier with Europe, but they don't have an alternative. When it came down to it, Russia gave Cyprus the cold shoulder. Now the small state in the Mediterranean has to stick to the conditions or leave the eurozone.

The island of bad luck

Cypriots face a suspension of credit card payments for overseas goods and a ban on cashing cheques under draft capital controls designed to avert a run on the banks.

[Mar 27, 2013] When Is A Euro Not A Euro

Cyprus is, in effect, establishing a new national currency, only without the benefits of devaluation.

Zero Hedge

ParkAveFlasher

So, we have a "quick and painless" conversion out of the Euro in terms of technical "execution", because the conversions are "baked in" via serial tracking of Euro notes and coins. I.E. "We had xyz Marks in circulation which were replaced by xyz Euros of serial number X." The implication here is a parallel tracking of "what a Euro of serial number x would be if it were a lira, or dmark, or ffranc, or kroner, or what have you". The fx is thus already in place and can be pre-figured with some accuracy.

If a country veers towards leaving or makes indications that they may leave the Euro, all Euro notes and coins of their given serial number (of the originally replaced currency) can be filtered out from the banking system (via a bank holiday in which banks actually, literally, remove the notes and coins of serial number X like children picking pennies from a can of spare change) so that the remaining Euros in circulation are not suddenly joined by their exiled Euro brethren from no-longer-member-nations.

The Euro cats are NOT dumb as it's being seen by most. They are quite intelligent.

[Mar 27, 2013] Cypriot 'solution' threatens further economic carnage among the other PIGS By Jeremy Warner

"By punishing those who put their faith in the solidity of the euro as a single currency, the eurozone has crossed a line and in the process poisoned Europe beyond redemption.Not since the second world war has anti-Germany feeling been so acute. Where's the solidarity in a bailout which imposes such "solutions" on its member states?"

Mar 27, 2013 | Telegraph Blogs

There is no mess quite so bad that eurocrat intervention won't make even worse.

Ever since the Dutch finance minister Jeroen Dijsselbloem declared that Cyprus would act as a template for other struggling eurozone lenders, the sound of screeching brakes and gear sticks being wrenched rapidly into reverse has been deafening. This is what he told Reuters:

"If there is a risk in a bank, our first question should be 'Okay, what are you in the bank going to do about that? What can you do to recapitalise yourself?'. If the bank can't do it, then we'll talk to the shareholders and the bondholders, we'll ask them to contribute in recapitalising the bank, and if necessary the uninsured deposit holders," he said.

No, no, no – he didn't mean that at all, everyone is now keen to stress. It's horses for courses. Cyprus was a unique situation requiring a template all of its own. Of course we are not going to bail-in uninsured depositors in all situations.

Unfortunately for them, the cat is now out of the bag. Unique Cyprus may be, but it is also part of Europe's single currency, and in any credible monetary union you cannot go around applying one set of rules to one constituency and a different set to another.

Except that is precisely what they are going to do, it would seem. The ECB's Coeure and Nowotney were first out of the hatches to deny that the Cypriot "solution" had any implications for the rest of the eurozone, followed quickly by the French President Francois Hollande and the Spanish premier Mariano Rajoy.

Here's a number of conclusions that can be drawn from this latest outbreak of all round confusion. One is that a template has indeed been set, but only for smallish, non-systemically important banks in non systemically important countries. This is actually not so very different from the situation that already exists in the US, and since the introduction of a new resolution regime, Britain too.

In the US, little banks go bust all the time, with uninsured creditors, including deposits above the Federal insurance maximum, automatically bailed in. And it's even happened in Britain, though in the one case we've had of it so far, it only affected a handful of uninsured depositors.

But would it be allowed to happen if a really large, systemically important bank went bust? No it wouldn't. It's impossible to imagine uninsured depositors in a Royal Bank of Scotland, BNP Paribas, Deutsche Bank or Citigroup being bailed in. This is because the vast bulk of such deposits would belong to other banks or larger corporates. If they lost their money, it would produce cascading insolvency across the wider economy – the so-called too big to fail problem.

And nor can one really imagine it being allowed to happen even among Germany's legion of tiny little sparkasse. These are implicitly underwritten by the German state: Germany is not going to do anything to undermine the foundations of its own banking model. Cypriots are right to think they are being unfairly singled out. If Laiki Bank was a landesbanken, it would have been bailed out.

But there is also a much more worrying implication. If uninsured deposits in smallish banks in peripheral eurozone economies are at risk, you'd be mad to put your money there unless compensated by a very high interest rates. As a consequence, money is going to get sucked out of the peripheral economies into the safer, core economies where the too big to fail rule still holds true.

The flight of capital from the periphery already seen because of fears of a eurozone break up will be further enhanced. No wonder the European Central Bank is so worried, for it is the the ECB which gets called on for funding when eurozone banks are facing deposit flight. Indeed, the absurdity of the German position on Cyprus, which is that creditor countries should not be expected to support periphery country banking systems, is that the ECB will have to support them instead, or as Machel Alexandrovich of Jefferies International puts it: "In saving €5.8bn in bail-out money, the other euro area countries will likely be on the hook for 4 to 5 times more in contingent Central Bank liabilities". Hey ho.

[Mar 27, 2013] The eurozone after Cyprus Gavyn Davies

Cyprus did not go bankrupt, but its business model is gone, and it will begin a long slide into deep recession. Cyprus could become a permanent problem for the European Union.

FT

Interesting that Cyprus looses Euro, 4 billion due to a Troika action (Greek PSI) and is then pushed into crisis by the same Troika over the need to come up with Euro 5.8 billion.

[Mar 26, 2013] Plan of saving Cypres bons almost cost Anastasiades his position

Before our eyes, there was a financial counterrevolution. Depositors of the EU crisis - not only in Cyprus, but also Spain, Portugal, Greece and Italy have realized that you can not keep the money in the accounts. And that the state does not protect them - said "News" German financial expert Thomas Bell.

Izvestia

How long will this situation last is still unknown. It will depend on how much of these amounts of money the government will need to collect € 5,8 billion only in this case the EU will provide assistance in the € 10 billion maximum loss of large depositors may increase to 40%.

Before our eyes, there was a financial counterrevolution. Depositors of the EU crisis - not only in Cyprus, but also Spain, Portugal, Greece and Italy have realized that you can not safely keep the money in the accounts. And that the state does not protect them - said "News" German financial expert Thomas Bell.

Under attack, he said, were people with small savings. Even if the Cypriot banks return the money to those whose investments do not exceed € 100 thousand, the shock remains. Suffice it to recall that in his first term Eurogroup, without flinching, required for them to enter the bank tax at the rate of 6.75%. Bell also said that for the first time in the history of the EU violated the right of free movement of capital - Cypriot banks stopped payments, issuing ATM from € 100 to € 250 per day.

Blow was struck, and the image of the European Union, and the sovereignty of its member states.

For the EU is no longer prohibitive barriers, - said Paul Nefidov. - There has been a precedent, when a group of major creditor countries raises an ultimatum, which are contrary to national law.

- These measures will work in the short term, but did not solve radically - said in an interview with "Izvestia" Director of the Center for European Studies of the Higher School of Economics, Timofei Bordachev. - The question remains, what will be the backbone of the economy of Cyprus, where the share of the offshore banking sector - over 50%?

He believes that the measures taken by Europe would force major contributors go to other offshore companies, and the country itself will send in poverty, because tourism is not as profitable to alone be the basis for its development.

According to experts, the loss of Russian depositors can be up to several billion euros. According to the Central Bank of Cyprus, of its € 20 billion of foreign deposits - € 18 billion are Russian

[Mar 25, 2013] Banks In Europe May Now Seize Deposits To Cover Their Gambling Losses

That's a huge blow to EU banks. Trust is lost. Cyprus GDP collapses. Capital control are lethal for financial services.

Cyprus and the EU reached a new late-night bailout deal last night that will reduce the chance that Cyprus's financial system and economy will completely implode.

The 10 billion euro deal requires Cyprus to drastically shrink its banking sector, which has grown to 8Xs the size of the country's economy, by unwinding Cyprus' second largest bank, Laiki. In doing so, bondholders and depositors with more than 100,000 euros will take a hair cut.

The new deal is better than the last deal in one key respect -- deposits under 100,000 euros will be protected.

That's very important. Those deposits were ostensibly "insured." To seize them, the way the last bailout deal would have, would have been grossly unfair and would have set a truly alarming precedent.

Now, small depositors in European banks can breathe more easily. At least in this case of gross malpractice on the part of reckless bank managers, their life savings have been preserved by the EU.

"Not hitting the insured deposits is a good thing except they showed they were prepared to do it a week ago" says Lee Buchheit, partner at Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton and sovereign debt restructuring expert, in the accompanying interview with The Daily Ticker's Aaron Task. "I'm afraid that will not be forgotten by insured depositors wherever they are in the eurozone if the crisis moves forward to another country."

This deals spares Cyprus' largest bank and lender the Bank of Cyprus.

Although deposits under 100,000 euros will be spared, deposits over 100,000 euros will be seized and subjected to an as-yet undetermined haircut--with the confiscated money going to bail out the gambling losses of the aforementioned reckless idiots who run some of Cyprus's banks.

"The Europeans are not putting any money into the bank recapitalization, which means, that as far as I can tell, there is nothing in this deal that could not have been done by the Cypriots last year or the year before," says Buchheit.

This seizure, needless to say, will dampen the enthusiasm of rich depositors for keeping money in banks that get themselves into financial trouble.

And because many, many banks in Europe have gotten themselves into financial trouble, this will create a general state of unease among rich depositors throughout the Eurozone.

And it should wig out some bank lenders, as well.

After all, never before in the history of this global financial crisis has a major banking system allowed depositors to lose money, no matter how reckless and stupid and greedy their bank managers have been. And only rarely have bank lenders--those who hold bank bonds--been asked to pony up.

In this case, however, the depositors will lose money. Perhaps a lot of money. And if there had been big bank debtholders in Cyprus, they probably would have been socked with losses, too.

It's possible that everyone will just laugh off Cyprus, viewing it as an exceptional one-off. After all, the Cyprus banking system was notorious for being the offshore money-laundering arm of many Russian oligarchs, so many folks will likely view this asset seizure as a case of "just desserts."

But this optimistic view of the Cyprus horror show overlooks one key fact:

The main reason that Cyprus depositors will lose their cash is because it has become politically difficult (impossible?) for leaders in Germany and other rich European countries to bail out their brethren in the "periphery" without taking many pounds of flesh.

And it is that precedent, in addition to the fate of big depositors in Cyprus, that should spook Europe's big bank depositors and lenders.

If Germany is done bailing out countries and banks without having those countries and banks cover some of the cost, it's not clear why Germany will relent next time Spain, Italy, Greece, and other countries in near-desperately bad financial shape come rushing to the EU with their hands out.

Unlike Cyprus, the banking systems in these countries do have bondholders that can get haircut before the depositors get haircut, but the effect will be the same.

"The one lesson that you can take from the Cypriot experience is: the race goes to the swift," says Buchheit. "And if you get out of Dodge early, you are completely protected. If you stay, and in effect trust the politicians, they not only come after [your money] they lock it up."

And that means, for the first time since the collapse of Lehman Brothers, those who lend their money to banks or keep their money in banks are at risk.

Because the neighborhood loan shark (Germany) is now extracting much more onerous terms. That's a sobering precedent. And it will likely cause many people to wonder and worry about where their money is.

[Mar 25, 2013] Bank of Cyprus to cut up to 40% off deposits over €100,000

RT Business

Despite the deal Cyprus will remain at risk of default and a Eurozone exit for a "prolonged period," believes Moody's senior credit officer Sarah Carlson.

"The system's profile as an offshore financial center is unlikely to survive this crisis," Carlson added. "The potentially irreparable damage to the country's current drivers of economic growth leaves its ability to sustain its current debt highly in doubt."

Nik

I'm a former Laiki Bank customer in Melbourne. Their slogan 'By your side, all your life'. ROFL

Anonymous user

Wealthy russians are victim of their govt willingness to punish oligarchs w/o law. They hid money

Anonymous user

Well, that was pretty predictable. It was a test run. Watch out, they're going to continue pushing.

[Mar 25, 2013] Cyprus Facing `Deeper Recession,' Orphanides Says

Bloomberg

The agreement confirm the damage that German government wants to do to Cyprus economy. Germany acted as prosecutor, judge and executioner.

IMF had allied itself with Germany. This is a reflection of dysfunction of how Europe works now. Cyprus got in between of election in Germany when Merkel was pressed by ...

[Mar 25, 2013] Paul Krugman Hot Money Blues

Economist's View

Lafayette:

BIRTHING PAINS

{ the island nation will have to maintain fairly draconian controls on the movement of capital in and out of the country.}

Yet another southern-European underbelly country that has learned "if you play with fire you can get burnt".

They thought they had an "easy market" by accepting the funds of Russian millionaires who preferred their assets kept in Euros than rubles. And the business building full-time residences for them (because these families were so rich they were afraid their children would be kidnapped), from which they could run their businesses in Russia.

Understandable, that - but really not the EU's probleme-du-jour.

So some of these Russian business-nomads now find their funds in a "BadBank". Once again, the solution employed by Japan, then Sweden, then Iceland, then etc., etc., then Greece and now Cyprus has proven the Only Alternative for a country that had lost control of its Financial Management.

Will such wonders never cease? Not until the EU climbs out of the Financial Hole it so richly deserves - because, once again, EU and ECB inspectors should have been all over Cyprus for its "exclusivity" that could have and finally did almost sink the euro.

It's a sad day for everybody, but particularly for the Commission in Brussels to whom is attributable First Responsibility for this mess. Which has been building quietly ever since the Euro was born just waiting for an Economic Recession (curtailing seriously tax-revenues necessary for debt-maintenance) to bring down its Financial House-of-Cards.

Let's call it birthing pains ... if it doesn't kill the mother first. In which case, we must call the episode "The Money That Never Should Have Been".

It is none the less unbelievable that a common-market entity larger than the US in numbers of consumers and GDP-value, with a economic demography almost identical to the US, could possibly have arrived in this predicament. And yet it has ...

Due to the naive supposition by Euro founders that it neither needed a diligent Central Bank oversight of internal National Finance Markets, nor an EU Executive (issuing from its Parliament as Prime Minister) to knock-heads when the going got tough.

Eric377:

Hot money? I think a more significant cause of the problems in Cyprus is that that Republic has critical ties with mother Greece and it frequently acts as if it were not truly sovereign. When a significant portion of what you consider to be your nation is beyond your authority and in the hands of Turkey, it is understandable that they align very strongly with Greece. Do you think Laika and Bank of Cyprus invested in Greek debt and other Greek assets without Cyprus' government approval and probably even requirement? The hot money provided more fuel for the fire but the fire did not ignite due to the hotness of the extra deposits.

anne:

Since 1980, however, the roster has been impressive: Mexico, Brazil, Argentina and Chile in 1982. Sweden and Finland in 1991. Mexico again in 1995. Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia and Korea in 1998. Argentina again in 2002. And, of course...: Iceland, Ireland, Greece, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Cyprus....

-- Paul Krugman

[ There is a reason for Chinese currency controls, controls that are continually criticized but that have been repeatedly successful in protecting Chinese development programs. The Chinese peg of the Yuan to the dollar came about in 1994 in the wake of a Mexican currency crisis, and the peg protected China during the Asian currency crisis beginning in 1997. ]

[Mar 25, 2013] Merkel Very Happy, Russian PM Furious The Stealing Of What Has Already Been Stolen Continues

Zero Hedge

The official Russian line is one of a typical professional chess player - calm, cool, collected: Russia doesn't see need to take any additional steps now, may still agree to restructure loan, First Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov told reporters earlier. Shuvalov, unlike Merkel and ECB's Mersch who sees nothing but green shoots (literally) everywhere in Europe, said that Russia is concerned Cyprus crisis may have negative effect on euro.

The deputy PM says that he has no estimate for Russian losses in Cyprus but added that Russian money in Cyprus is "legal."

The most likely next candidate is Slovenia with a banking system that's as bankrupt as the ones in Ireland and Cyprus, a permanent recession and a government that has higher borrowing costs than Spain or Italy.

Mon, 03/25/2013 - 09:00 | 3371766 machineh

Few americanos could tell you the difference between Slovenia, Slovakia and sloe gin.

zorba THE GREEK

The Russian deposits were gone soon after they were made. The bank bought Greek bonds.

The money went to keep the Greek Ponzi going.

j0nx

Yup, the Russians bailed out Greece and they didn't even know it at the time. Ze Germans are playing a VERY dangerous game here and I'll bet Benny and the inkjets are in it balls deep.

Unwashed

...and Goldman Sachs was behind the the derivatives that helped Greece disguise their debt.

Wolferl

Lol. The truth is that Merkel and Putin are in perfect agreement about this Cyprus event. The Kremlin now has even more control of the Russian oligarchs and the Russian economy. A win-win situation for Germany and Russia.

j0nx

Indeed. Putin got to herd those cats back home and didn't even have to lift a finger to do it.

SmallerGovNow2

who cares about the cats, their money will be confiscated for the bailout. so i don't see a lot returning to Russian banks. there must be something else...

Jendrzejczyk

Perhaps Putin's rivals all had their money stashed there, and now they are a little less powerful to oppose him.

Also, there are still mountains of money being made in Russia and much of it will now remain there (where Putin can keep it safe) instead of fleeing to other tax havens.

NoDebt

SOME of their money. Some. This plays into Putin's hands in several ways. Further consolidation of his power within his own borders. And did you notice his line about how Russian banks are extremely stable? He's been on a mission to sound like he's all business friendly the last couple years- even did a Dog-n-Pony show in Silicon Valley not long ago.

Come back to Jamaica (err, um, Russia)! We're all warm and friendly, mon! We won't steal your money like them other guys, mon! Great place to do your biziness!

udge fudge

Quite true , Vlad did want the cats and the roubles back inside the house Thing is though can he control a few vengeful cats ? I'd be more than a little concerned were I some EU people.

bardot63

Now the cat is out of the bag - the ship has sailed - the genie has not only left the bottle but has left the building. Everyone with real money, or just a little money, knows, or should know, he and his money are now targets of bankrupt, corrupt governments everywhere. So much for "full faith and credit." Players, like the anti-Putin Russian billionaire found dead in his London bathtub Saturday, now check for horse heads under the sheets.

It turns out it's true that you can't solve debt problems by going deeper into debt. Governments running the printing presses at full speed are recognizing this only now. Plan B is to skip the messy paperwork of debates and votes and taxation and inflation and just go for the cash.

Cyprus is in Europe but this is a US Fed test run. The Fed Reserve's fingerprints are all over Cyprus and they ain't even trying to hide it. The big players know this, and that means the big players across the globe are going to be the next to panic, after the little Cypriot nobodys who are lined up at ATMs right now at midnight to get 100 bucks a day of their own money. The players only hope that you and I will wait to panic later. He who panics first panics best.

LawsofPhysics

Perhaps, but look at those around you. History is very very clear on all this. Not a damn thing will change until the supply lines break and folks are faced with the fact that modern eCONomics is completely detached from reality.

Once more people start starving, some real efforts to prosecute the fraud and make some real changes towards a real fucking market that allows for true price discovery, but I doubt it.

The world will simply become like Russia post-collapse. There will be "official" prices in the official "markets", and then there will be the prices that everyone actually pays. No one is going to qualify for any type of credit except for the ivy-league chosen few.

I'd like to be optimistic and think the heads of the latter will roll, but I just don't see that happening with the average sheep being what they are.

[Mar 24, 2013] Guest Post Frugality Or Fragility

03/24/2013 | Zero Hedge

The more the tastes of the elite run to risky business, the more fragile the complex edifice of global finance becomes. Spectacular failures, mind-boggling crashes, and mighty people instantly reduced to public mockeries through their own perversion or crimes become the norm. In this madhouse of absolute power, would it be so strange to hear of another Incitatus? The original, of course, being the favorite horse of the Emperor Caligula:

To prevent Incitatus, his favourite horse, from growing restive he always picketed the neighbour-hood with troops on the day before the races, ordering them to enforce absolute silence. Incitatus owned a marble stable, an ivory stall, and a jewelled collar; also a house, furniture, and slaves - to provide suitable entertainment for guests whom Caligula invited in its name. It is said that he even planned to award Incitatus a consulship.

Suetonius: Caligula 55

Such is the contemporary reality we live in. People try to live their lives, to avert their eyes, to hide their children from the sight and effect of the monstrous cavorting of the elites. But they loom above all others on the horizon, intent on their self-aggrandizing excesses, like a constant, living, writhing surrealist mountain range. And the uncaring fragments of the elites' collapsing 'entertainments' rain down like meteors upon the rest of the population.

Perhaps a crazed fad for frugality will break out and suppress the urges of the elites. In the meantime, hide your valuables as well as you can, and treat your children with the sympathy they deserve. They are among the chief victims of our era's unholy orgies of risk and corruption. Frugality or fragility? The choice is yours, as well as theirs.

zorba THE GREEK:

"Frugality or Fragility?"

I think it is obvious by now that we are all going to get FRUGALED.

Ghordius:

enronized, corzinized, ...frugalized

[Mar 24, 2013] Fed Watch: Do Capital Controls Mean Cyprus Has Already Left the Eurozone?

Economist's View

Tim Duy:

Do Capital Controls Mean Cyprus Has Already Left the Eurozone?, by Tim Duy: Cyprus is in a struggle to save itself, at least the European definition of "save itself," and remain a Eurozone member. But will Cyrpus even use the same euro as the rest of Europe when all is said and done?

After all, banks remain closed in Cyprus, which means a euro in a Cypriot bank has very little value. If you can't spend it, is it really a euro? And even when banks reopen, it is assumed that capital controls will be imposed to prevent euros from leaving the island. So a French euro will be able to purchase goods and services in Germany, but a Cypriot euro will not. It seems then that a Cypriot euro is unambiguously worth less than a French euro.

Thus, there will be two Euros in circulation (if not already). This is the thesis of blogger Guntrum B. Wolff (ht Ed Harrison):

The most important characteristic of a monetary union is the ability to move money without any restrictions from any bank to any other bank in the entire currency area. If this is restricted, the value of a euro in a Cypriot bank becomes significantly inferior to the value of a euro in any other bank in the euro area.

Effectively, it means that a Cypriot euro is not a euro anymore. By agreeing to this measure, the ECB has de-facto introduced a new currency in Cyprus.

I think this might be right. If I can spend my dollar in Oregon but not in California, it is really the same dollar? I think not.

Is this how the Eurozone experiment will end? Not with a formal "exit," but with a return to banking dominated by national boundaries and enforced by capital controls? No longer a true common currency, but a dozen currencies sharing the same name, each with a different value?

There will be another banking crisis in Europe (just as a bank will fail in some US state) and depositors are now aware that they are fair game in any crisis response, so capital flight will intensify at an earlier stage in the crisis. As may have been noted, European policymakers find rapid crisis resolution to be something of a challenge, thus accelerated capital flight will necessitate a more rapid imposition of capital controls in the future - and with each round of capital controls, a new sub-euro will be born.

Bottom Line: Europe's response to the Cyprus situation will have long-lasting impacts on the Eurozone experiment itself, none of the good. Indeed, the imposition of capital controls should lead one to wonder if the "solution" to Cyprus is effectively an exit from the Eurozone is everything but name. And don't forget that the crisis also threatens to destabilize the region geopolitcally. I don't think that "disaster" is too strong a word in this case.

Fred C. Dobbs:

Just imagine the money laundering opportunities for enterprising capitalists.

hix:

Nothing wrong with a situation where small savers in Cyprus prefer to save their mony at Austrian or French banks. This can be done very fast, using onlinebanking.

The small ex-tax havens would still free ride the rest of the Eurozone, but to a much smaller extend and creating much less systemic risk in the process.

mrrunangun:

It may not be a great idea for a tax haven to agree to provide deposit insurance for large accounts belonging to foreigners using the advantages of investing in said tax haven. Knowing that foreigners who value tax havens may also value deposit insurance and so may split accounts to keep them under the deposit insurance limit, it may not be a great idea to offer deposit insurance at all to the accounts of foreigners' investment vehicles. There was no deposit insurance in Russia last time I looked, and Russian investors may be particularly sensitive to its availability in an offshore tax haven. If your banking system's assets are several times your GDP, the foreigners may not take your deposit insurance too seriously anyway.

havnaer said...

Does this mean a Cypriot Euro is also worth less OUTSIDE the Eurozone than a German Euro?

Were I a Russian oligarch with gobs of money in a Cypriot bank, I'd be vacationing in the Cayman Islands right about now. Or maybe in Manhattan, having a conversation with a broker from Goldman Sachs...

The more dicey the Euro looks, the better the Dollar looks. All that foreign money is going to be bidding up the price of Treasuries, keeping interest rates (on housing and investment) low.

So much the better for OUR recovery.

Hooray for the European policymakers!!

Mark A. Sadowski said in reply to havnaer...

"Were I a Russian oligarch with gobs of money in a Cypriot bank, I'd be vacationing in the Cayman Islands right about now. Or maybe in Manhattan, having a conversation with a broker from Goldman Sachs..."

By most accounts the wealthiest of those Russians who based their money in Cyprus have already moved it out:

http://www.businessinsider.com/oligarchs-got-money-out-of-cyprus-2013-3

"The more dicey the Euro looks, the better the Dollar looks. All that foreign money is going to be bidding up the price of Treasuries, keeping interest rates (on housing and investment) low."

This is the trouble with looking at monetary policy purely from an interest rate perspective. From a money supply and demand perspective anything that increases the demand for dollars effectively tightens US monetary policy (the dollar goes up, and inflation expectations, reflecting nominal income growth expectations, fall).

If you have any doubts ask yourself why the Swiss National Bank (SNB) has been working overtime to keep up with the demand for Swiss francs.

Fred C. Dobbs said...

As Cyprus collapses, it's a race to the Mediterranean gas finish line - MercoPress http://mercopress.com/t/39742

... In the end, it's all about gas and the race to the finish line to develop massive Mediterranean discoveries. Cyprus has found itself right in the middle of this geopolitical game in which its gas potential is a tool in a showdown between Russia and the European Union.

The EU favoured the Cypriot bank deposit levy but it would have hit at the massive accounts of Russian oligarchs. Without the promise of Levant Basin gas, the EU wouldn't have had the bravado for such a move because Russia holds too much power over Europe's gas supply.

The Greek Cypriot government believes it is sitting on an amazing 60 trillion cubic feet of gas, but these are early days-these aren't proven reserves and commercial viability could be years away. In the best-case scenario, production could feasibly begin in five years. ...

RepubAnon said...

Ultimately, some form of Eurozone-wide bank deposit insurance will be needed. Banks choosing to purchase that insurance would be able to use that fact in their advertising. Banks without such protection would also need to prominently display this in their advertising. Only insured banks would be protected, and folks with funds at uninsured banks would know up front what risks they were taking.

Insurance policies, of course, are only as good as their underwriting policies. There would need to be strict disclosure and risk analysis policies in place, monitored by folks whose salaries depended on making correct risk assessments. There would also need to be a European version of Glass-Steagall in place. Each Eurozone member country would need to pass strict laws criminalizing violations before the insurance could be sold in that country, and repeal of those laws would automatically void the policies.

Of course, the odds of something like this happening are quite small. Playing roulette with other people's money where you get to keep most of your winnings and the losses are palmed off on others is quite addictive. It's also profitable, so investing a small percent of one's profits in the re-election campaigns of the appropriate politicians is a necessary cost of that business model.

Nothing will change until the disaster is of such proportions that it can't be plastered over with taxpayers' funds, or cries of "austerity now!" Still, it's worth thinking about now.

anne said...

http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/cepr-blog/cheap-thoughts-on-euro-area-unemployment-its-a-guy-thing

March 24, 2013

Cheap Thoughts on Euro Area Unemployment: It's a Guy Thing By Dean Baker

As we get our latest dose of euro crisis thrills with the battle of the Cypriot banks, it might be a good time and step back to reflect on the havoc wreaked by the European Central bankers. While the double-digit unemployment rates throughout much of the region have grabbed headlines, if we flip the picture over and look at employment rates we see a somewhat more complicated picture.

First, if we look at employment population ratios for the adult population as a whole (ages 16-64), the euro zone story does not look especially dire.

[Graph]

If we want to do a direct comparison of employment population ratios (EPOP) for the euro zone as a whole, the relevant lines are the top line and the third line. In 2006 the United States had an EPOP for its adult population of 72.0 percent compared to 64.6 percent for the euro zone as a whole. By 2011 most of this gap had closed as the EPOP for the U.S. had dropped to 66.6 percent compared to 64.3 percent for the euro zone.

The closing of this gap is the story of two Europes. The north, led by Germany, has seen a rise in its EPOP since the downturn. While Germany had an EPOP in 2006 that was 4.8 percentage points below that of the U.S., in 2012 data (not on the chart), its EPOP was more than 6 pp higher.

By contrast, the crisis countries of the periphery have seen declines in their EPOPs, but considerably less than might be expected given the severity of their downturns. Italy's EPOP had fallen by just 1.4 pp, from 58.4 percent in 2006 to 57.0 percent in 2011. The drops in Greece and Spain were larger through 2011, but still comparable to the decline in the United States. In Greece the drop in the EPOP was 5.4 pp and in Spain it was 7.1 pp. This compares to a drop in the U.S. of 5.4 pp. Through 2011, even in the crisis countries the picture does not look especially bad compared to that in the United States.

There is an important qualification to this story. In 2012 the EPOP in the U.S. began to rise modestly. By contrast it fell sharply in both Greece and Spain. The EPOP in the third quarter of 2012 in Greece (the last quarter for which the OECD has data) was 50.4 percent, 5.2 pp below its year-round average for 2011. The EPOP for Spain in the fourth quarter of 2012 was 54.6 percent, 3.1 pp below its year-round average for 2011. The employment situation in these crisis countries may not have looked much worse than the employment situation in the U.S. through 2011, but it certainly does now.

The other striking part of the story is the extent to which the employment falloff is a story of male workers.

[Graph]

While the drop in EPOPs for men in the U.S. from 2006 to 2011 is modestly larger than the overall drop, at 6.7 percentage points, it is much more severe in both Greece and Spain. In Greece the decline was 7.7 pp through 2011 with an additional decline 6.3 pp through the first two quarters of 2012 for a total fall of 14.0 pp. In Spain the drop was 12.9 pp through 2011, with a further decline of 3.9 pp through the fourth quarter of last year for a total fall of 16.8 pp.

By contrast, women do not seem to have been hit nearly as hard.

[Graph]

As is the case with men, the EPOP for women in Germany rises substantially over this period, going from 61.5 percent in 2006 to 67.7 percent in 2011. It continued to rise to 68.1 percent in the third quarter of 2012. The EPOP for women in the euro zone as a whole also showed a modest rise in this period, going from 56.6 percent in 2006 to 58.2 percent in 2011. By contrast, the EPOP for women in the United States fell by 4.1 pp over this period.

Interestingly, even in Greece and Spain the EPOP for women showed only a modest decline, dropping by 2.3 pp in Greece and just 1.2 pp in Spain. However as was the case with men, it seems the situation worsened notably in 2012. The EPOP for women had fallen by another 2.9 pp in Greece through the third quarter of 2012 and by 2.1 pp in Spain through the fourth quarter of 2012.

There are a couple of important takeaways from this picture. First, even in the hardest hit countries the drop in employment was not notably worse than in the United States through 2011. The better situation for women largely made up for a worse situation for men, compared with the picture in the United States. That is not necessarily entirely positive. If women who had preferred not to enter the labor force ending up taking low paying jobs because their husbands were unemployed, this is not a good story. However it means that the hardship may not be as severe as the unemployment data indicate.

The other really big takeaway is that 2012 was much worse than 2011. The fact that Greece, Spain and other crisis countries were able to endure the pain through 2011 does not imply that they will be able to endure 2012 level pain for an indefinite period of time. One hopes for evidence of intelligent life at the European Central Bank.

raskolnikov:

It could be argued that the men who created the Eurozone did so to ensure the free flow of capital. They thought they could preserve that policy without creating the institutions that make it possible, like a banking union, fiscal transfers, a central fiscal authority etc. So now the whole thing is blowing up in their faces because free trade laws alone don't create the political framework for putting out fires.

It looks to me like little Cyprus could be the straw that broke the camels back, but maybe I'm just having a bad day.

Yanis Varoufakis: While Waiting for Cyprus' Godot….

naked capitalism

Here are some unedited thoughts I just shared with the BBC's Radio 4 on Cyprus while we are all waiting for the new deal to shape up:

Cyprus' banking sector must shrink. As did Ireland's, the hard way. What is essential, as every Irishman and woman will tell you, is that the politicians do not load up the weaker citizen's/taxpayers' shoulders with enormous debts on behalf of bankers that refuse to wither.

Every bailout agreement, beginning with Greece's in May 2010, seems less logical and more toxic than the previous one. The culmination was of course Cyprus this past week. Think about it: In one short week, Europe has managed:

If only the agreement reached at last June's EU Summit to de-couple the banking crisis from the public debt crisis had been implemented, we would not be having this conversation now.

The Cyprus debacle is the homage that denial of the systematic nature of the euro crisis pays to a systemic crisis.

Cyprus parliamentarians offered the Eurozone a reprieve from the stupidest and most potentially destructive Eurogroup decision since this Crisis began three years ago. It now remains to be seen whether, scared by the sound of their own NO, they will now succumb to an even less rational deal.

By Yanis Varoufakis, Professor of Economics at the University of Athens. Cross posted from his blog.

from Mexico says:

You know, I was talking to a Canadian politilogue, Peter Dale Scott, earlier today, and he was telling me some stuff about politics around those parts in the Americas that would really blow the mind of the average clueless American. I know I was flabbergasted.

For example, did you know that the "unofficial" government in the United States - the "deep state" (CIA, NRO, NSA, DIA, DEA, NED, USAID, etc.), in collusion with that country's military sector and the transnational banking cartel, is a lot more powerful than the "official" government there? And to use a euphemism of a Pakistani fellow I was talking with the other day, if the United States legislature failed to do what the triumvirate of US deep state, the US military sector (both private and public), and transnational banking cartel instructed it to do, then it would be "cleaned". In his own words: "We are heading towards an international new order where the power of the state will be totally in hands of a corrupt mafia, who will usurp all human rights on pretext of controlling terrorism…. The boomerang will come back and as they say the wheel turns !" http://nsnbc.me/2013/02/01/the-volatility-of-gas-geo-politics-and-the-greater-middle-east-an-interview-with-major-agha-h-amin-2/

I think this accounts for the surprising pattern of unanimous votes there against rank and file Americans that have occurred over the past 35 years, and also likely means that any actions going forward by the sock-puppet government of the United States will be at the direction of the actual governing institutions of that particular state. Which is not to say that that is necessarily a bad thing, at least for the 1%, the neoliberals and neoconservatives. I'm just pointing out that unless you happen to be talking to people who are from the region and are somewhat politically connected, you might not have any idea what is really going on there.

The Dork of Cork:

This is not a mistake.

Capital controls within the Euro on a island be it Cyprus today or Ireland in the future is a very effective measure for core Euro and chief IMF shareholders ( the banks which control the western treasuries )

Core Europe needs basic (energy resources). If Cypriots or Irish fight for the last Euro in the company store the oil they once burned will flow elsewhere.

Thats the point of this.

I have kept saying for some time now. The Irish are worth more dead then alive.

from Mexico says:

March 24, 2013 at 8:43 am

What is it going to take to wake up the rank and file of Ireland, Cyprus, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece, etc. to a very simple reality: They're being colonized? We've seen this movie before. It's what Hannah Arendt called "continental imperialism."

And it is all facilitated by a small group of privileged elites who hail from within the colonized nations. The relationship between inside colonizer and outside colonizer that exists in neo-colonialism is explained by Carlos Fuentes as follows:

In the phase immediately after independence, Britain managed Latin America's foreign trade; in the latter part of the nineteenth century, the United States came to be the principal partner. However, they employed the same instruments of economic power, namely favorable agreements for their merchants, loans and credits, investment, and the handling of the export economy… A highly privileged local minority served as intermediaries, both for these exports and for the imports of manufacured European and North American goods, which were in demand among the urban population in the interior…

Large haciendas, intensive exploitation of minerals and cheap labor forces proliferated. Was this what independence was all about - land and mine owners profiting handsomely while the majority remained impoverished?

– CARLOS FUENTES, The Buried Mirror

For an excellent contemporary analysis of the same phenomenon there's Ljubiša Mitrović's "THE NEW BOURGEOISIE AND ITS PSEUDO-ELITE IN THE SOCIETIES OF PERIPHERAL CAPITALISM":

Following the neoliberal ideology and concept of development (characterized by market fundamentalism, monetarist economic policy, privatization, liberalization, deregulation, Washington Agreement), the forces of the global capitalism, whose agents are the leading countries of the world centre and the USA, TNCs and the financial bank bourgeoisie, have imposed the neoliberal ideology of dependent modernization on the countries of the semiperiphery and the periphery.

http://facta.junis.ni.ac.rs/pas/pas2010/pas2010-01.pdf

Here's how Mitrović describes the role of the inside colonizers:

Comprador bourgeoisie is the upper layer of the bourgeois class… It is a tycoon group ruthlessly led by its interests. It posits its own interests over general social ones. It is not national in character and is socially irresponsible. It is a blind servant of foreign capital, ruthless in the exploittaion of the domestic workforce and dictatorial in relation to its fellow countrymen. Its homeland is where its interests are. It is the agent of the megacapital in the function of global economy. It is a "Trojan horse" of the foreign TNCs in Serbia and the region. Its god is the god Mammon, the capital. Its aim is to amass capital, and it puts profit above individuals. It is a predatory class of the nouveau riche and often bon vivant and parasitic upstarts. It is a peculiar jet-set of bandit economy.

[Mar 23, 2013] Cyprus Capitulates to Eurozone (Updated) " naked capitalism

The imposition of capital controls has the potential to alarm depositors in periphery countries even more than deposit seizure. While the Eurocrats can try claiming that the deposit grab is a one-off, the result of Cyprus having a huge financial sector that was heavily deposit funded, it was already troubling that they didn't go after equity or bondholders. But the imposition of capital controls effectively creates another currency without the benefit of allowing the currency to revalue. As Jeremy Warner of the Telegraph explained:

Yet the point is that if capital controls are introduced, it basically makes Cypriot euros into a national currency, rather than part of wider monetary union. The capital controls will severely limit your ability to get your euros out of Cyprus, rending them essentially worthless in the wider eurozone. It would be a bit like telling Scots they can't spend their UK pounds in England. Monetary union is many things, but above all it is about free movement of money and a uniform value wherever it is spent. When these functions are disabled, then you cease to be part of a single currency.

John Dizard of the Financial Times is of the same view:

So even after the banks (presumably) reopen on Tuesday, a euro in Cyprus will now not be as freely transferable, or, really, as valuable, as a euro in Frankfurt. In some very real ways that is also true of euros on deposit in Greece, whose use is increasingly subject to detailed review and delay by tax authorities; or euros in Italy, where the size of cash transactions is severely restricted, at least by law.
Therefore, now that the Article 65 capital-controls cat is out of the bag, it is reasonable to consider when and where it will be used again, when a European banking system gets into trouble. You may be rich, in nominal Cypriot euros, or (fill in the blank) euros, but so what?….

In the same way that starting wars is much easier than ending them, the lifting of capital controls in Cyprus is likely to be a long time off. Britain imposed temporary exchange controls, as they were called then, in September of 1939 and did not lift them until 1979.

As we've indicated, the big risk coming out of the cramdown of Cyprus is a resumption of the flow of deposits out of periphery countries, which had been underway last year but was arrested by the introduction of the OMT. You'd be nuts to keep your money in a Spanish bank after the brutal treatment of Cypriot depositors. Expect Swiss, German, American, and, as Dizard put it, "banco de Mattress" to be the beneficiaries.

from Mexico

Yves said:

Indeed, the President and key members of Parliament are likely at physical risk and it's not hard to imagine that some will find it necessary to leave the country.

Kind of like Argentine president Fernando de la Rúa and his Economics Minister, the neoliberal guru Domingo Cavallo, escaping from Argentina in a helicopter in the wee hours of December 20th, 2001.

ltr:

Argentina's Domingo Cavallo was a Harvard guy, and America's darling for keeping the peso pegged to the dollar so that Americans could invest in Argentina with no exchange rate risk.

[Mar 23, 2013] Cyprus Capitulates to Eurozone (Updated)

So where there is little or no faith in the banks, these large underground cash economies can develop.

naked capitalism

from Mexico

Yves said:

Capital controls are being implemented, since news reports from Cyprus indicated that residents intended (understandably) to drain accounts once banks reopened.

It seems like capital controls won't stop people from withdrawing their money from the banks and keeping it under their mattresses. This is what happens in countries like Argentina and Mexico where there is little faith in the banks. You get these unbelieveably large, underground cash economies. Here in Mexico, a good friend of mine is an antique dealer and he recently sold an antique to a man who is perhaps the biggest real estate developer in Mexico. It was about $80,000 and he paid cash. Likewise he sold an antique to the owner of one of the TV monopolies here in Mexico, and again he paid in cash. This would never happen in the US.

Likewise, in Argentina cash in the hands of individuals accounted for 51 percent of private money supply.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-26/pesos-go-underground-as-dollar-ban-backfires-argentina-credit.html

So where there is little or no faith in the banks, these large underground cash economies can develop. As the article above on Argentina explains, this robs banks of deposits, deposits which can be leant out for productive investment in the formal economy. But both Mexico and Argentina have monetary sovereignty, so can print up more pesos. What's going to happen to poor little Cyprus, who can't print up more euros?

from Mexico:

This whole thing went down according to plan. Never let a crisis go to waste.

In 1995, when Clinton placed a gun to Mexico's head and pulled the trigger, where was Mexico's governing group, all Ivy League trained (Harvard, Yale, MIT)? As Fuentes inquires in A New Time for Mexico:

In effect, President Clinton withdrew the original $40 billion loan requiring Congressional approval and gave Mexico $20 billion out of a discretionary fund. Strings were attached: Mexico's oil revenue would serve as collateral and be paid directly into the Federal Reserve Bank in New York. President Zedillo didn't even blink at this onerous condition and both Zedillo and Clinton knew that the U.S. lent Mexico money to repay U.S. banks, and investors… Production, employment, salaries, education, and social services - the real saviors of the Mexican economy - were once more postponed. Sovereignty was serverely affected: the agrement gave the U.S. the right to monitor Mexico's economic policies…

Even after taking into account the executive branch's lack of controls, its internal agenda, the tradition of secrecy, and the deluded complicity of Washington, a bitter doubt remains in Mexico. If the devaluation of the peso was not done in time, why was it done so badly? What happened to the technicians, the economists, the boys at the blackboard? Why did they not negotiate with the U.S. government before the devlauation, so that credit could be obtained at less risk to our national sovereignty? Why was it all done so late, so ineptly? In the last days of January 1995, when the illusion of a rescue loan was fading, our supplicant diplomats returned home with empty hands, equipped only with nails to scratch outselves with.

skippy:

I cannot fathom the ironic incongruity of neoliberalism… cough… Anarcho capitalism

Anarcho-capitalism (also referred to as free market anarchism,[1] market anarchism,[2] private-property anarchism,[3] libertarian anarchism,[4] and voluntaryism) is a libertarian political philosophy that advocates anarchy in the sense of the elimination of the state in favor of individual sovereignty in a free market.[5][6] In an anarcho-capitalist society, law enforcement, courts, and all other security services would be provided by privately funded competitors rather than through taxation, and money would be privately and competitively provided in an open market. Therefore, personal and economic activities under anarcho-capitalism would be regulated by privately run law rather than through politics.

Various theorists have differing, though similar, legal philosophies which are considered to fall under "anarcho-capitalism." The first well-known version of anarcho-capitalism was formulated by Austrian School economist and libertarian Murray Rothbard in the mid-twentieth century, synthesizing elements from the Austrian School of economics, classical liberalism, and nineteenth century American individualist anarchists Lysander Spooner and Benjamin Tucker (while rejecting their labor theory of value and the normative implications they derived from it).[7]

In Rothbardian anarcho-capitalism, there would first be the implementation of a mutually agreed-upon libertarian "legal code which would be generally accepted, and which the courts would pledge themselves to follow."[8] This legal code would recognize sovereignty of the individual and the principle of non-aggression. – wiki

Skip here… which then begs the question what is the NAP (Non-aggression principle) which underpins this ology – ism mean see:

Justifications:

The principle has been derived by various philosophical approaches, including:

Argumentation Ethics: Some modern libertarian thinkers ground the non-aggression principle by an appeal to the necessary praxeological presuppositions of any ethical discourse, an argument pioneered by libertarian scholar Hans Hermann Hoppe. They claim that the act of arguing for the initiation of aggression, as defined by the non-aggression principle is contradictory. Among these are Stephan Kinsella[5] and Murray Rothbard.[6]

Consequentialism: Some advocates base the non-aggression principle on rule utilitarianism or rule egoism. These approaches hold that though violations of the non-aggression principle cannot be claimed to be objectively immoral, adherence to it almost always leads to the best possible results, and so it should be accepted as a moral rule. These scholars include David Friedman, Ludwig von Mises, and Friedrich Hayek.[7][not in citation given]

Natural rights: Some derive the non-aggression principle by appealing to natural rights that are deemed a natural part of man. Such approaches often reference self-ownership, ethical intuitionism, or the right to life. Thinkers in the natural law tradition include John Locke, Lysander Spooner, and Murray Rothbard.

Social contract: The social contract is an intellectual device intended to explain the appropriate relationship between individuals and their governments. Social contract arguments assert that individuals unite into political societies by a process of mutual consent, agreeing to abide by common rules and accept corresponding duties to protect themselves and one another from violence and other kinds of harm. Many libertarians, however, reject the "social contract" term as it has been historically used in a non-voluntary fashion. They argue that for a contract to be enforceable it must be voluntarily accepted.

Social progress: Herbert Spencer, the 19th century polymath, first proposed that aggression either between individuals or the state against the individual inhibits sociocultural evolution. Based on his theory of social evolution (from Lamarckian use-inheritance), he concluded that aggression in all its forms impedes progress by interfering with the individual's ability to exercise his or her faculties. He wrote, "… when each possesses an active instinct of freedom, together with an active sympathy-then will all the still existing limitations to individuality, be they governmental restraints, or be they the aggressions of men on one another, cease. … Then, for the first time in the history of the world, will there exist beings whose individualities can be expanded to the full in all directions. And thus, as before said, in the ultimate man perfect morality, perfect individuation, and perfect life will be simultaneously realized."[8]

Objectivism: Ayn Rand rejected natural or inborn rights theories as well supernatural claims and instead proposed a philosophy based on observable reality along with a corresponding ethics based on the factual requirements of human life in a social context.[9] She stressed that the political principle of non-aggression is not a primary and that it only has validity as a consequence of a more fundamental philosophy. For this reason, many of her conclusions differ from others who hold the NAP as an axiom or arrived at it differently. She proposed that man survives by identifying and using concepts in his rational mind since "no sensations, percepts, urges or instincts can do it; only a mind can." She wrote, "since reason is man's basic means of survival, that which is proper to the life of a rational being is the good; that which negates, opposes or destroys it [i.e. initiatory force or fraud] is the evil."[10] – wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-aggression_principle

Skip here… so whats all the humbug about aggression or is it assertiveness? When does it begin and what is its path through out ones life… is part and parcel of adaptive behavior or some part that should be genetically bred out – removed from the herd… eh.

Children:

The frequency of physical aggression in humans peaks at around 2–3 years of age. It then declines gradually on average.[103][104]

These observations suggest that physical aggression is not only a learned behavior but that development provides opportunities for the learning and biological development of self-regulation. However, a small subset of children fail to acquire all the necessary self-regulatory abilities and tend to show atypical levels of physical aggression across development. These may be at risk for later violent behavior or, conversely, lack of aggression that may be considered necessary within society. Some findings suggest that early aggression does not necessarily lead to aggression later on, however, although the course through early childhood is an important predictor of outcomes in middle childhood. In addition, physical aggression that continues is likely occurring in the context of family adversity, including socioeconomic factors. Moreover, 'opposition' and 'status violations' in childhood appear to be more strongly linked to social problems in adulthood than simply aggressive antisocial behavior.[105][106] Social learning through interactions in early childhood has been seen as a building block for levels of aggression which play a crucial role in the development of peer relationships in middle childhood.[107] Overall, an interplay of biological, social and environmental factors can be considered.[108]

What is typically expected of children?

Young children preparing to enter kindergarten need to develop the socially important skill of being assertive. Examples of assertiveness include asking others for information, initiating conversation, or being able to respond to peer pressure.

In contrast, some young children use aggressive behavior, such as hitting or biting, as a form of communication.
Aggressive behavior can impede learning as a skill deficit, while assertive behavior can facilitate learning. However, with young children, aggressive behavior is developmentally appropriate and can lead to opportunities of building conflict resolution and communication skills.

By school age, children should learn more socially appropriate forms of communicating such as expressing themselves through verbal or written language; if they have not, this behavior may signify a disability or developmental delay

What triggers aggressive behavior in children?

Physical fear of others

Family difficulties

Learning, neurological, or conduct/behavior disorders

Psychological trauma

Corporal punishment such as spanking increases subsequent aggression in children.[109]

The Bobo doll experiment was conducted by Albert Bandura in 1961. In this work, Bandura found that children exposed to an aggressive adult model acted more aggressively than those who were exposed to a nonaggressive adult model. This experiment suggests that anyone who comes in contact with and interacts with children can have an impact on the way they react and handle situations.[110]

Summary points from recommendations by national associations
American Academy of Pediatrics (2011):

"The best way to prevent aggressive behavior is to give your child a stable, secure home life with firm, loving discipline and full-time supervision during the toddler and preschool years. Everyone who cares for your child should be a good role model and agree on the rules he's expected to observe as well as the response to use if he disobeys."[111]

National Association of School Psychologists (2008):

"Proactive aggression is typically reasoned, unemotional, and focused on acquiring some goal. For example, a bully wants peer approval and victim submission, and gang members want status and control. In contrast, reactive aggression is frequently highly emotional and is often the result of biased or deficient cognitive processing on the part of the student."[112]

Situational factors

See also: Stereotype threat

There has been some links between those prone to violence and their alcohol use. Those who are prone to violence and use alcohol are more likely to carry out violent acts.[122] Alcohol impairs judgment, making people much less cautious than they usually are (MacDonald et al. 1996). It also disrupts the way information is processed (Bushman 1993, 1997; Bushman & Cooper 1990).

Pain and discomfort also increase aggression. Even the simple act of placing one's hands in hot water can cause an aggressive response. Hot temperatures have been implicated as a factor in a number of studies. One study completed in the midst of the civil rights movement found that riots were more likely on hotter days than cooler ones (Carlsmith & Anderson 1979). Students were found to be more aggressive and irritable after taking a test in a hot classroom (Anderson et al. 1996, Rule, et al. 1987). Drivers in cars without air conditioning were also found to be more likely to honk their horns (Kenrick & MacFarlane 1986), which is used as a measure of aggression and has shown links to other factors such as generic symbols of aggression or the visibility of other drivers.[123]

Frustration is another major cause of aggression. The Frustration aggression theory states that aggression increases if a person feels that he or she is being blocked from achieving a goal (Aronson et al. 2005). One study found that the closeness to the goal makes a difference. The study examined people waiting in line and concluded that the 2nd person was more aggressive than the 12th one when someone cut in line (Harris 1974). Unexpected frustration may be another factor. In a separate study to demonstrate how unexpected frustration leads to increased aggression, Kulik & Brown (1979) selected a group of students as volunteers to make calls for charity donations. One group was told that the people they would call would be generous and the collection would be very successful. The other group was given no expectations. The group that expected success was more upset when no one was pledging than the group who did not expect success (everyone actually had horrible success). This research suggests that when an expectation does not materialize (successful collections), unexpected frustration arises which increases aggression.

There is some evidence to suggest that the presence of violent objects such as a gun can trigger aggression. In a study done by Leonard Berkowitz and Anthony Le Page (1967), college students were made angry and then left in the presence of a gun or badminton racket. They were then led to believe they were delivering electric shocks to another student, as in the Milgram experiment. Those who had been in the presence of the gun administered more shocks. It is possible that a violence-related stimulus increases the likelihood of aggressive cognitions by activating the semantic network.

A new proposal links military experience to anger and aggression, developing aggressive reactions and investigating these effects on those possessing the traits of a serial killer. Castle and Hensley state, "The military provides the social context where servicemen learn aggression, violence, and murder."[124] Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) is also a serious issue in the military, also believed to sometimes lead to aggression in soldiers who are suffering from what they witnessed in battle. They come back to the civilian world and may still be haunted by flashbacks and nightmares, causing severe stress. In addition, it has been claimed that in the rare minority who are claimed to be inclined toward serial killing, violent impulses may be reinforced and refined in war, possibly creating more effective murderers.[citation needed]

As a positive adaptation theory

Some recent scholarship has questioned traditional psychological conceptualizations of aggression as universally negative.[24] Most traditional psychological definitions of aggression focus on the harm to the recipient of the aggression, implying this is the intent of the aggressor; however this may not always be the case.[125] From this alternate view, although the recipient may or may not be harmed, the perceived intent is to increase the status of the aggressor, not necessarily to harm the recipient.[126] Such scholars contend that traditional definitions of aggression have no validity.[citation needed]
From this view, rather than concepts such as assertiveness, aggression, violence and criminal violence existing as distinct constructs, they exist instead along a continuum with moderate levels of aggression being most adaptive.[24] Such scholars do not consider this a trivial difference, noting that many traditional researchers' aggression measurements may measure outcomes lower down in the continuum, at levels which are adaptive, yet they generalize their findings to non-adaptive levels of aggression, thus losing precision.[127] – wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggression#As_a_positive_adaptation_theory

Skippy… boy oh boy I sure am confused over this w]Ihole neoliberlism thingy – cough… Anarcho Capitalism… I mean… if squillionaires are sovereign entity's on top of – pinnacle of – ownership's – propertarianism's mental thunit excrement pile… well history is well defined on this subject matter… can you say Tudors on steroids… the individual[s of wealth become **religious creators** in their own – individual – rights! Dark ages 2.0 value added w/ devolution sq – cubed…

PS. is it possible to barf, retch, and sob all at the same time… uncontrollably?

Lambert Strether:

As of 7:3PM EST, Parliament has yet to vote on looting despositor accounts.

Assuming that happens, artificial 100K limit or not:

1. Core banks win, peripheral banks lose

2. All depositors lose, since their savings can be garnished between 4:59PM Friday and 9:01AM Monday if the powers that be think that's a good idea. Never let a crisis go to waste.

So it's all good.

kris:

I don't think many common people have deposit of more than 100k. It seems to me this is rich robbing rich, elite infighting.

Jim Haygood

The awful ruin of Europe, with all its vanished glories, glares us in the eyes.

When the designs of wicked men or the aggressive urge of mighty States dissolve over large areas the frame of civilised society, humble folk are confronted with difficulties with which they cannot cope. For them all is distorted, all is broken, even ground to pulp.

From Stettin in the Baltic to Trieste in the Adriatic, an iron curtain has descended across the Continent.

http://history1900s.about.com/od/churchillwinston/a/Iron-Curtain.htm

The euro - an idea whose time has come and gone.

It's all over but the cryin' …

Claudius:

A previous reader posted a comment "we are Cypriots now". Maybe, but "we" Cypriots join one other nation that has history of government imposed wealth confiscation and capital levies foisted on its poor, benighted, downtrodden, hapless population; Germany.

Since 1913, Germany's government has imposed 'forced loans', capital levies or a wealth tax on its citizens, no less than eight times: In 1913, the government introduced a one-off levy on higher wealth and income as a defense tax; in 1919, the national emergency tax levy was introduced as an general capital levy as part of Erzberger's financial reforms; the government also levied a forced loan in 1922/23, which taxed citizens with a 'one time' 100,000 marks; in 1949, a retroactive capital levy was raised on the asset base of citizens from 1948; 'The Investment Aid Act' of 1952 forced loan from the commercial sector for reinvestment in the 'primary' industries; and, in 1982, the coalition government introduced an 'Investment Aid' levy to promote housing construction – paid back at a later date with no interest.

Clearly , Germany sees the correlation between forced loans and capital levies as obvious: Forced loans can more or less be converted into capital levies due to the structure, interest, and repayment methods. Larger one-off capital levies are easily spread over longer periods of time to minimize the liquidity burden on taxpayers (E.g. the 1950′s, the capital levy was uniformly spread over a 30-year period (including interest) and collected in quarterly installments). Germany sees that forced loans and one-off capital levies serve as an "one time" fiscal instrument to secure public debt refinancing, without having to rely on external aid.

If we want to see where the next expropriation of private wealth might be, look not to Greece, Spain or Italy but,perhaps, look to Germany itself. What easier way to lead by example on the way back to economic strength?

We are all 'good Germans' now.

craazyman:

That sounds like lifting weights in the gym with chalk all over your hands and old cotton sweatpants and sweatshirts. Grey, no flashy bright colors or shoes that light up when you walk. I'm talking leather high tops with laces. That's how Rocky Marciano used to work out.

That's an interesting history-slice into the Geode of the Teutonic mind. Let's forget about the Nazis for a second.

The theory is. You can do a correlation going back 100 years between capital levies and industrial might. The r-squared is nearly 1.00.

Cyprus will eventually be the strong man of the Mediterranean! Hanz and Franz will PUMP YOU UP!

Ned Ludd:

It's not a wealth tax, it's a liquidity tax. Wealthy people don't keep large sums of money deposited at the bank. They invest in real estate, equities, bonds, derivatives, futures, options, and swaps. They have financial advisers who advise them not to let their money sit in a savings account.

Who has large amounts of money in savings accounts? Risk-averse retirees. Small businesses. A person or business saving up to make a large capital purchase without taking out a loan. The middle class – the financially conservative middle class. This seizure of wealth is aimed straight at the middle class.

Lambert Strether:

It's not a tax. And who do you think is running the show? Somebody other than plutocrats?

kris:

It seems that Washington drew the red line.
Europeans can't solve anything. They always beg DC to solve problems.
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/03/22/russia-rejects-cyprus-deal-watch-france/

Extract:
They say USA made calls warning Russia not to intervene and others claim this will help Europe.

Yves Smith:

Please see Ned Ludd's comment above.

This is not a wealth tax. No wealthy person would keep a lot of money in 'friggin deposits.

This is a tax on conservative retirees and small-medium sized businesses. Just watch Greek and Cyprus news and see how many businesses fail as a direct result of the deposit seizure.

ary:

That's because this isn't a wealth tax. It's a confiscation of assets to bailout more filthy banksters. A true wealth tax is assessed on all assets and collected annually like an income tax and is used to punish rentier behavior and incentivize the productive allocation of assets.

It is usually 1-2% and is done in lieu of capital gains and gift taxes. Instead of letting wealth build-up and languish in offshore bank accounts accruing interest, a true wealth tax encourages productive investment. The Cyprus saga is nothing of the sort, especially since it is supposedly a "one-off" phenomenon. It is just a blatant heist of people's money to avoid giving a banksters a big sad.

Finnucane:

I'm not wise in the ways of finance, banking, etc., so correct me if I'm wrong: doesn't the imposition of a "reverse toaster" fee amount to a nullification of the EMU deposit insurance?

And without said insurance, won't there be a run on the banks in other EMU countries? If I'm, say, a Spanish pensioner, won't I have an incentive to run to my bank first thing Monday morning, take out my euro-cash, and exchange it for dollars or yen or shrunken heads or something, because my heretofore safe deposit is now exposed to the threat of "bailout fee" confiscation?

And aren't bank runs bad or something?

As a kid growing up in monolingual small town 'merica, I always figured the Europeans, with their Goethe and Latin schools and Anatole France and le bac and all that, must be smarter than us.

Now I realize they're just 99%-er losers, just like the rest of us. Welcome (back) to the trailer park, Proust!

wunsacon

People are alike all over.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_Are_Alike_All_Over

Lambert Strether:

White House Petition:

Protect personal accounts from confiscation for bank bailouts

Whereas, during recent events in Cyprus, the European Union sought to confiscate personal accounts, including insured accounts, for a bank bailout;

And whereas the Open Bank Resolution of the Bank of International Settlements considers holders of personal accounts "creditors" and hence subject to "losses" during a bailout;

And whereas millions of Americans have entrusted their money to banks for safekeeping;

Be it resolved that the President of the United States, Barack Obama, shall issue this statement:

"Neither the Federal Reserve, the U.S. Treasury, nor any other governmental or international body shall ever levy deposits from U.S. personal bank accounts for the purpose of a bank bailout."

The President shall enforce this statement with appropriate regulations.

1 down, 99,000 to go….

Laughing_Fascist :

You would think the FDIC would payout if there were a (bondholder) bank robbery in the U.S.

But FDIC only pays if the bank fails. Very clever.

auntienene:

99,993 to go

Carla:

I do not know if the following was referenced here on Naked Capitalism or not, but the following article: "The Progressive Movement is a PR Front for Rich Democrats" cannot be mentioned or forwarded too often:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/03/15/the-progressive-movement-is-a-pr-front-for-rich-democrats/#.UUU3RRe5PE4.facebook

FORGET the White House Petition Site. Sorry.

I am not sure that Putin sympathizes too much with those Russians who put money in tax heaven or run businesses via tax heaven. I would think they are more his enemies and West friends (Yeltsin gang, oligarchs, etc)

BTW in an unrelated news Berezovsky died (heart failure or suicide) in London

emptyfull


Good blow-by-blow in the FT on how the deposit "tax" happened. Surprise! Everybody looks bad.

http://blogs.ft.com/brusselsblog/2013/03/the-cyprus-bailout-blame-game-begins/

Skeptic

As alluded to in the article, there is now a Two Tier Euro.
There are FROZEN EUROS, like those in the Cyprus banks and subject to capital controls, and HOT EUROS, those free to roam. This sure looks like the future model for the EURO NOSTRA.

Should be lots of financial jobs for those monitoring capital controls. Will business accounts be treated the same as Momma's. Lots of opportunity for more corruption and influece peddling to manipulate these capital controls.

The EURO NOSTRA will also be able to measure the Financial Consciousness of the rest of Europe by seeing how many run for the Exits. If there is little reaction, expect even more draconian cramdowns.

hugh fowler:

I notice that the whole financial MSM has gone very quiet on the subject of Credit Default Swaps. One of the reasons the Cypriots banks have become insolvent is becuase they were forced to take a large write down on Greek bonds when the Eurozone constructed the bailout for Greece. One assumes that at least part of that debt was insured by CDS. It is the holders of these instruments that are getting bailed for free at every stage of this crisis not the debtor nations who are being stuck with austerity and yet more 'loans' to repay. Anyone got any figures who wa on the wrong end of insuring Greek debt because they bear a huge responsibility for what is happening in Cyprus and once again they are not beeing held to account.

TC:

Whatever it takes to provide assets on the cheap to fascist loving swindlers working the London-New York Axis of Fraud whose out-of-control use of leverage spewed from its zero due diligence regime positively must increase, lest the whole house of dirty cards collapse (which is doomed to happen anyhow). That ridiculous satrap of this imperial dung pile, Germany, evidently has all the creative capacity of moon rock.

Michael Hudson:

If I understand this, Yves, ONLY Laiki is suffering. The Russians do NOT have money in it - it's a Greek bank with Arab backing. So this looks like Cyprus is saving the Russian deposits EXCEPT for secondary effects from their cross-ties to Laiki.

This seems to me to be the path of least resistance, keeping the Russians happy. My guess is that it's mainly Greek cypriots who are depositors in Laiki. Not much love lost there …

the Germans must be fuming. I think that their action was aimed largely against Russia from the start, hoping to drive it to bank with the Europeans. (Meanwhile, Putin is stepping up pressures with the BRICS next week to create their own banking and currency area.)

watch what Sara W. said in the Bundestag yesterday.

Yves Smith:

No, that's just what they've voted through so far is the Laiki restructuring. That gets them only €2 billion of the €5.8 billion they need. They are voting today to go after other deposits (well that could go into Sunday, but the plan was to vote on it today). The reporting isn't as granular as I like, but I think that's because the structure is still in play, but at a minimum, they intend to take ~22% to 25% of the deposits over €100,000 of the biggest bank (Laiki is #2), and the question of how much to hit other depositors is still being sorted out. The President and his finance ministers are flying to Brussels (I think Brussels) today for more negotiations. They still want to borrow against pension fund assets, which the Troika nixed. They I believe are trying to get the Troika to accept a smaller amount of borrowing against state pensions (a bill authorizing that was passed) but I don't think the Troika is gonna budge.

Basically, they can't get to the €5.8 billion without taking a LOT from other depositors. There is only €3 billion in deposits at the Russsian state bank sub, which is perfectly solvent (one source of the Russian unhappiness). It's pretty clear Russians have euros in other banks too, I've seen no guesstimates on the distribution.

The other thing which is NEVER NEVER mentioned is there is a lot of Lebanese money in Cyprus and some Saudi as well. The reporting has clearly been heavily influenced by the Troika demonization of the Cypriots.


[Mar 22, 2013] Cyprus Update

Calculated Risk

BarleyReturns

CONtained

AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Dutch insurance and banking group ING (ING.AS: Quote) said on Friday it had about 900 million euros ($1.16 billion) of exposure at year-end to companies registered in Cyprus, but that its credit risk linked to the island was negligible

sum luk:

But step back ... and consider the incredible fact that tax havens like Cyprus, the Cayman Islands, and many more are still operating pretty much the same way that they did before the global financial crisis. Everyone has seen the damage that runaway bankers can inflict, yet much of the world's financial business is still routed through jurisdictions that let bankers sidestep even the mild regulations we've put in place. Everyone is crying about budget deficits, yet corporations and the wealthy are still freely using tax havens to avoid paying taxes like the little people.

Sebastian:

SPOOL said: "What about the part where the people who had their Cyprus savings clipped get fractional compensation with ownership in the bank? Or did I dream that?"

No, I saw that somewhere, too. Don't know whether it's going to make it into the final bill.

There's talk of somehow issuing shares/bonds/interest based on Cyprus' off-shore natural gas deposits, except that they haven't been developed, and it's a long, difficult and expensive process, years away from actually producing any money.

Also talk of nationalizing pension funds.

Even with the extraordinary measures the Parliament is considering, it's looking like they'll still come up short on the 5.8 billion euro goal...unless they up the haircut on depositors.

JMO, FWIW.

S.

josap:

"You must be out of your mind!" snapped tycoon Igor Zyuzin, main owner of New York-listed coal-to-steel group Mechel (MTL.N), as he dismissed a suggestion this week that the financial meltdown in Cyprus posed a risk to his interests.

Big Russian money out of Cyprus; crisis endangers flows
| Reuters

His response is typical across the oligarch class of major corporations and super-rich individuals, reflecting the assessment of officials and bankers on the Mediterranean island who say the bulk of the billions of euros of Russian money in Cyprus comes from smaller firms and middle-class savers.

black dog:

how many small/mid/ size businesses will be WIPED OUT if the $$s for payroll vaporized?

morons

LoserBeachBum:

Everybody in Europe knows Cyprus is at least a little bit "shady", like Las Vegas in the 1960's. How is demanding adequate bail-in somehow German financial blitzkrieg?! And btw, the toughest "string them all up by..." demands came from the Dutch and the Finns in this.

Comrade Alexei Mikhailovich wrote on Fri, 3/22/2013 - 9:53 am

vtcodger:

I would assume that any Russian who has managed to come by a significant amount of money probably has some of it stashed beyond the immediate reach of what passes for a government in Russia.

All of it transited through Cyprus and lots still resides there, but plenty of it in London. Those who keep their fingers in the pie in the motherland keep money in Cyprus. Because of the same reasons the crooks moved money to Cyprus(low taxes, implausible interest rates, english rule of law), intranational lending also routinely passes through and I'm sure a certain amount stays parked there.

End of the day, nobody knows how much it is. Russia told Cyprus to FOAD this morning, all but ensuring that at least 1 bank goes into wind down mode, bondholders wiped out, anybody above 100k euros is bailing in. Russia may take care of the people on their nice list through other means, but that's it

sm_landlord:

LoserBeachBum wrote:

Everybody in Europe knows Cyprus is at least a little bit "shady", like Las Vegas in the 1960's. How is demanding adequate bail-in somehow German financial blitzkried?!

Everybody knows that Greece and Italy are at least a little bit shady. What happens when the bail-ins come to those countries?

Citizen AllenM:

Ye gawds, nitpicking. Show me where you can get a 10% interest rate today without risk?

Your deposits are guaranteed up to 100k euros, after that you shoot craps.

That is the ultimate outcome of this, and the knockon by the Greek debacle is accurate, but the real question is what kind of other problems are now coming home to roost? Think about how much foreign money is currently propping up our equity markets, in light of the paltry returns loans and investment generate.

The entire world financial system still has too much leverage, and people wonder why when the tide goes out some folks are butt naked?

That one bank is in trouble and causing such a huge knock on effect tells you that you need a real Glass Steagal reinstatement worldwide.

And Kruggles is right to point out the tax dodging nature of that money. When it goes bust, it will be the end of a lot of dirty money. And since I don't play that game, I really don't care if they lose it all.

Reminds me of the Albanian Pyramid Investment Scheme from a while back, with beaches and more politics.

No way the German Taxpayers are gonna contribute any more hard euros to that mess, but this is most likely the straw that breaks the back of too big to fail in the southern European periphery.

The Bank walk is going to turn into a run and a half.

Splitting the Euro up is going to be one big headache that will consume Europe for the next decade.

Someday this war's gonna end...

Someday this war's gonna end...

Citizen AllenM:

So, let us move on to our own question mark tax havens- Cayman Islands, Panama, Bermuda, etc. How much dirty money sleeps soundly there- oh yeah, what about that fraudster in Texas who ripped off what, $6 billion?

With safety and "security", there should be low risk at high cost, or high hidden risk at low cost.

Meanwhile, the petty rentiers look at their bank accounts here and think they would be vulnerable to this, but as Kruggles points out, we have our own central bank, and it didn't let the really big bank go- it printed enough to tide them through this period of financial repression, while the financial sector continues to shrink in America.

Someday this war's gonna end...

LoserBeachBum:

"Splitting the Euro up is going to be one big headache that will consume Europe for the next decade."

Actually, USA has much wider GDP per capita variations among states than France-Germany-Italy-Netherlands-Spain axis.

Tommy Vu:

What happens to the Cypriot economy after the bail-in? Not in good shape now.

RayOnTheFarm:

Tommy Vu wrote:

What happens to the Cypriot economy after the bail-in?

I'm guessing the off-shore tax haven aspect will cease to operate. Beyond that, it may be less of a desired destination for certain Russian citizens, but who knows.

poicv2.0

"They are giving those that want their money back now a huge haircut, plain and simple. "

Same as what happened in Serbia according to a friend who went through the exact same thing.

Want you money now? Sure here it is at X% off. Or you can get it whole 20 years from now.

Rickkk:

Cyprus: The Sum of All FUBAR - NYTimes.com

March 21, 2013 - The Krugmeister

"I've done some asking around, and cleared up something that was puzzling me. Officially, only about 40 percent of the deposits in Cypriot banks are from nonresidents, which would imply resident deposits of almost 500 percent of GDP, which is crazy.

But the answer is that I do not think that word "resident" means what you think it means. Some of the money is from wealthy expats living in Cyprus; much of it is from rich people who have resident status without, you know, actually living there. So we should think of Cypriot deposits as mainly coming from non-Cypriots, attracted by that business model....And the business model only works until there's a big loss somewhere; since Cypriot banks were investing in Greece and in their own domestic real estate bubble, doom was inevitable.

....the situation is by no means under control. There's still a real estate bubble to implode, there's still a huge problem of competitiveness (made worse because one major export industry, banking, has just gone to meet its maker), and the bailout will leave Cyprus with Greek-level sovereign debt...

Truly awesome stuff."

Big Russian money out of Cyprus; crisis endangers flows Reuters

(Reuters) - If Russian oligarchs still have money in Cyprus, where a lot of them base their businesses, they aren't letting on.

"You must be out of your mind!" snapped tycoon Igor Zyuzin, main owner of New York-listed coal-to-steel group Mechel (MTL.N), as he dismissed a suggestion this week that the financial meltdown in Cyprus posed a risk to his interests.

His response is typical across the oligarch class of major corporations and super-rich individuals, reflecting the assessment of officials and bankers on the Mediterranean island who say the bulk of the billions of euros of Russian money in Cyprus comes from smaller firms and middle-class savers.

The collapse of an economy 75 times smaller than its own may not have much impact in Russia, though the crisis has strained relations with the European Union, raised questions on Russian influence over Cypriot politicians and highlighted geopolitical competition for new offshore gas fields. But some would suffer.

As much as losses likely to be sustained on deposits held in Cypriot banks, pain for the Russian economy could come from a disruption in money flows between Russians which pass through the island - transfers that dwarf Cyprus's own national income.

Light regulation and taxes, cultural ties through Orthodox Christianity and the weather have long attracted the capital and savings of Russians - many keen to keep their wealth out of the sight of often predatory bureaucrats at home.

Yet precisely because investors can hide their wealth behind nominee structures - often held in the name of a local lawyer - it is difficult to say just how much Russian money is tied up on the Mediterranean island. Or how much has already left.

Where it is going is also unclear, though a possible rise in Russian deposits in fellow EU member Latvia, a former Soviet republic that hopes to enter the euro zone next year, has raised concerns of displacing instability northward.

BILLIONS HELD

Russians are believed to account for most of the 19 billion euros of non-EU, non-bank money held in Cypriot banks at the last count by the central bank in January, when total non-bank deposits were 70 billion, 60 percent of them classified as "domestic". Of 38 billion in deposits from banks, 13 billion came from outside the European Union.

But the ease with which Russians can establish residency and local corporations in Cyprus muddy the data. One senior financial source in Moscow said a total of 20 billion euros held by Russian firms in Cyprus was a "significant underestimate".

Cypriot central bank chief Panicos Demetriades was asked by Russia's Vedomosti newspaper this week how much Russians held on the island. He replied: "It depends how you count it."

Deposits formally identified as Russian totaled 4.9 billion euros, he said. Add the funds of shell companies believed to be linked to Russia and the figure rose to 10.2 billion euros. But many Russian and other analysts think the sums are much higher.

One Cyprus-based lawyer reckons that $2 billion in Russian money fled in the 10 days before banks were shut down this week while Nicosia argued over an EU bailout. Phones are ringing from Malta to the Isle of Man as that cash seeks a new safe haven.

Russian business leaders criticized the EU bailout plan, and the "haircut" it would impose on depositors. However, if Cyprus stands by its rejection, heavier losses could result.

"There will be a serious outflow of capital from Cyprus," said Vladimir Potanin, the chief executive of Norilsk Nickel (GMKN.MM), the world's largest nickel and palladium miner.

"It won't affect me or my company. But they have put Cyprus to the knife and what has happened is a disgrace."

Sources in the wealth management, advisory and banking industry in Nicosia say Russia depositors are typically smaller savers and entrepreneurs. Fiona Mullen, a British economist in Cyprus, said Russians she encounters tend to be buying 300,000-euro homes, not the palaces favored by oligarchs in London.

"There is a lot of Russian business done through Cyprus," she said. "It's so difficult to do business in Russia, you've got to bribe so many people, that it's easier to do it through Limassol. It's kind of the back office for Russia."

A business adviser said of his Russian customers: "Clients would be well off, but not the private jet kind." Most did not use Cypriot banks to keep money but as a conduit for funds.

Cyprus charges foreigners no tax on dividend income and capital gains. A double taxation treaty with Russia provides attractive incentives for Russians to use Cypriot banks. Even on Thursday, with Nicosia in crisis, one adviser said he had had two new requests from abroad to set up Cyprus shell companies.

CAPITAL CONTROLS

Given the risk of disruption to its financial flows, Russia in particularly concerned about any imposition of controls on capital movements; Cyprus has already drafted such legislation as a precaution in case the EU cuts off aid to its banks.

"If, in any way, capital flows are restricted that would have a significant impact on Russian businesses," said German Gref, chief executive of state-controlled Sberbank (SBER.MM), Russia's largest bank.

"I hope the Cypriot government has the wisdom not to undertake such measures, because if they do all investors will leave the country. It would be a perfect case study in what not to do," the former economy minister told Rossiya 24 television.

Morgan Stanley has estimated that Cyprus, with a GDP of just $25 billion, is both the source and destination of 25 percent of Russian inward and outbound foreign direct investment - a result of Russians "round-tripping" their own cash via the island.

Cyprus was also the source of $203 billion in foreign loans to Russia between 2007 and 2011, equivalent to 24 percent of the total, Morgan Stanley economists wrote in a research report this week. Shrinking the Cypriot banking sector could force Russian firms to borrow more dearly elsewhere, they warned.

Russia's central bank gave a public assurance on Friday that it did not see Cyprus posing a meaningful danger for the Russian banking system: "I don't see any systemic or individual threat here," First Deputy Chairman Alexei Simanovsky told reporters.

State-controlled VTB (VTBR.MM) has the largest presence on Cyprus, through its subsidiary Russian Commercial Bank. It has estimated potential losses in the tens of millions of euros in a worst-case scenario.

Russian banks have, meanwhile, shown no interest in a rescue deal through which they could acquire stakes in Cypriot banks, Finance Minister Anton Siluanov said on Friday after two days of talks with his Cypriot counterpart ended without a deal.

(Additional reporting by Maya Dyakina, Megan Davies and Oksana Kobzeva, and Laura Noonan in Nicosia; Writing by Douglas Busvine Editing by Timothy Heritage)

[Mar 22, 2013] Medvedev: EU in Cyprus behaves like an elephant in a china store

Google translation
Dni.ru

Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev in an interview with European media spoke about the situation with Cyprus. According to Medvedev, the actions of the EU and Cyprus to resolve the debt problems of the Republic can be compared with the behavior of an elephant in a china store.

"While the actions of the European Union, the European Commission, together with the Government of Cyprus to resolve the debt problem, unfortunately, reminiscent of the elephant in a china store" - says Medvedev.

According to him, "all the possible errors that could make in this situation to have been complicated, including the undermining of confidence in financial institutions in general, and not only located in Cyprus." "Are they became too board to live without another financial crisis ? Forgotten what happened a few years ago?" - Wonders Medvedev. He explained that such ill-considered actions caused by their rough estimations from Russia.

Recall that Cyprus needs about 17 billion euros to recapitalize banks and support the budget, as previously reported by the European Commission. This amount is comparable to the size of the economy of the island state. The Government of Cyprus, at the insistence of the EU creditors took a preliminary decision on forced confiscation of bank deposits in the form of a "tax" - 6.75% of deposits in 20-100 thousand euros and 9.9%, with larger deposits. This caused panic among investors and threatening the financial system of the island. Cyprus Parliament on Tuesday rejected the proposed bill. On Wednesday, the Cypriot authorities have held talks with representatives of the EU and Russia, trying to save the country from default.

According to Medvedev, the idea of ​​a tax on deposits in Cyprus can be compared with the actions of the Soviet authorities, who never cared about the money of ordinary people. "The measure, which was proposed, is clearly confiscatory, ekspropriatorsky nature is unprecedented in nature and I can not compare with anything, except for some decisions that were made in a particular period by the Soviet authorities, who are reckless with the savings of the population" - Medvedev said.

The Prime Minister did not rule out that Russia may raise the issue of avoidance of double taxation with Cyprus. "We have an agreement on the avoidance of double taxation with Cyprus. I do not know whether we need such an agreement in this case. Question may arise about the termination of the treaty, its denunciation. Consequences can be very, very serious. So again I say: act carefully, "- said Medvedev.

In his view, the situation in Cyprus can cause a new series of other countries financial crises. Replying to a question, it will be reflected on future relations between Russia and Europe, the Prime Minister said: "We have to wait for the final decision." "We believe that these negotiations and decisions still need to be discussed with the various interested parties, and not hide behind the phrase that Cyprus wrong to discuss it with anyone. But then let all the decisions and will only be accepted in the EU, but I'm not sure it's good, "- he said.

Cyprus will face a huge number of lawsuits from companies and individual investors because of losses related to the banking crisis, said Medvedev. "In fact, they stopped existing operations. They cancelled a lot of transactions, transactions. All these deals is under the control of banking authorities, and if these operations are not unfrozen, it is facing a very big loss, not to mention the fact that it is possible be safely bury all the Cypriot system of banks. It just will not be ", - said the prime minister.

"If such problems arise, a lot of clients, representing and state agencies, and private entities will handle claims. These actions will in respect of the republic of Cyprus, and to other persons who are involved in the beginning of this very difficult period , "- said Medvedev.

According to the latest Bank of Cyprus, which had been closed on Saturday against the possible action of forced taxation of deposits will remain closed at least until Tuesday, March 26. Earlier, the government of the island state has been considering opening financial institutions as early as Thursday. In this case, the authorities were planning to impose restrictions on the movement of bank capital.

Interview with German Economist Peter Bofinger on Perils of Cyprus Bailout - SPIEGEL ONLINE

For the first time, bank customers in a crisis-plagued euro-zone country are being forced to contribute to its bailout. In an interview, German economist Peter Bofinger warns the strategy is "extremely dangerous" and could lead to a run on banks.

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SPIEGEL ONLINE: Do you expect that despositors in Spain, Italy, Portugal and other crisis-plagued countries will make a run on their accounts because they, too, might have to pay someday?

Bofinger: Yes. These fears will now be stoked. The Spaniards, Italians and Portuguese may not run to the banks today or tomorrow, but as soon as the crisis intensifies in a euro-zone country, the bank customers will remember Cyprus. They will withdraw their money and, by doing so, intensify the crisis.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: The Cypriot government wants to minimize this panic effect. The Wall Street Journal reported today that the latest proposal in Nicosia would include only a 3-percent one-time levy for small-scale depositors rather than the 6.75 percent tax included in the deal reached in Brussels over the weekend.

Bofinger: That wouldn't change anything. If you live in a home, then you expect 100 percent safety. If someone says to you, "Three percent of your roof could cave in," then you still wouldn't want to live there anymore.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: The euro-zone partner countries seeking to provide Cyprus with a bailout view the participation of small-scale depositors as a necessary evil. This is because any aid provided by the long-term euro rescue fund, the European Stability Mechanism (ESM), would be added on top of Cyprus's national debt. Without the contributions of bank customers, the government's debt level would be unsustainable.

Bofinger: Shaking the confidence of depositors across Europe cannot be the solution. Those seeking to save the euro should be contributing true aid during an emergency.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: You mean they should give free money to Cyprus?

Bofinger: At the end of the day, it would be better to take charge and provide a billion euros to rescue the small-scale savers in Cyprus than to risk a collapse of the euro financial system.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: But that would also mean entering into a transfer union and breaking another taboo that is at least as big. Greece, Portugal, Spain and co. would want their money for free in the future, too.

Bofinger: That can be easily avoided. Cyprus is a special case, and it can be communicated as such. No other euro-zone country in Southern Europe has such a bloated financial sector. And there is no other country that could have a comparable domino effect in the euro crisis. Cypriot banks lent some €22 billion to Greek firms and private households, and they have suffered very high losses as a result of the restructuring of Greek bonds.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Nevertheless, it would be almost impossible to justify giving money away to a crisis country for free. How is Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble supposed to explain to parliament that he is giving away German taxpayers' money to a government that is accused of having insufficient controls against money laundering?

Bofinger: Such political failings should be dealt with as quickly as possible. But the main issue here is not Cyprus. It's how we guarantee the euro's stability. That's also in Germany's interest.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: In what sense?

Bofinger: After the election in Italy, the situation within the currency union is once again very unstable. An end of the common currency would be the equivalent of a nuclear meltdown for German industry. The question is this: How can the euro be stabilized as cost-efficiently as possible? If depositors across Europe make a run on their accounts, the rescue will get a lot more expensive than it would if money were raised to save the small-scale depositors in Cyprus.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: The participation of Cypriot bank customers also serves another purpose. The financial institutions are holding a lot of money from wealthy Russians in their accounts. Some believe those accounts contain illicit funds from money laundering. The partial expropriation of depositors is supposed to counter the accusation that the ESM has become a bailout package for Russians.

Bofinger: There are better solutions for that, too. Depositors with up to €100,000 should be able to keep all their money. But richer depositors should be made to pay more. For example, starting at €1 million, 20 percent of an account's savings could be seized. At €10 million, that figure could be 30 percent. One could also review whether it would be legal to tax depositors from non-EU countries in Europe at a greater rate.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: So you're calling for a bigger compulsory levy for Russians than for Europeans?

Bofinger: Why not?

Modern Money: A Study In Confidence and Crisis

Jesse's Café Américain
"Those who think there is little risk of a levy being imposed on other periphery members are missing the point. The seeds of doubt have been planted. As a saver facing zero yields on deposits and a potential haircut, why keep your savings in a bank? Sure it is convenient for electronic transactions, but individuals can adapt easily. As one of my more amusing colleagues put it, 'mattresses now hold a 10 per cent premium.'"

Ben Davies, Cyprus, Oh the Irony!

"Making small-scale savers pay is extremely dangerous. It will shake the trust of depositors across the Continent. Europe's citizens now have to fear for their money...

The Spaniards, Italians and Portuguese may not run to the banks today or tomorrow, but as soon as the crisis intensifies in a euro-zone country, the bank customers will remember Cyprus. They will withdraw their money and, by doing so, intensify the crisis."

Peter Bofinger really understand it. This is due to the he laws. But by and large the enforcement is not equipped to deal with all but the outliers to a general compliance with the law. This is, of course, the basis of the power of civil disobedience, and why autocracies are so sensitive to any mass demonstrations of dissent.

The President of Cyprus, Nicos Anastasiades, recently elected from the conservative DISY party, blanched at the original bailout deal offered by the troika, the European Commission, the European Central Bank, and the International Monetary Fund, to assess a levy only on the non-guaranteed deposits in the troubled Greek banks, which are those deposits in excess of €100,000.

He proposed instead to limit the levy on large deposits to 9.9%, and to make up the difference by violating what had been the general guarantee in Europe by assessing a lesser amount, of about 6.7%, on the 'guaranteed deposits' of less than €100,000 by small savers. That the troika did not blanch at the prospect of violating what had been a generally established EU policy to ensure bank stability speaks volumes about their cravenness.

The arrangement was made all the more clever by promising equity in the (worthless) banks in return for the levy, and perhaps even a guarantee of return based on 'future natural gas discoveries' which seem to be of much less value to the EU and the government.

This was one of their conditions for a €10 billion loan to the government under the European Stability Mechanism (ESM). The other involved the usual austerity measures, which are a favorite of the International Monetary Fund.

The austerity proposal had been revealed last November and include cuts in civil service salaries, social benefits, allowances and pensions and increases in VAT, tobacco, alcohol and fuel taxes, taxes on lottery winnings, property, and higher public health care charges.

The troika did not care about the details of the levy as long as the 'bail in' by depositor funds occurred. This was a sacrifice of a general European principle and was a serious policy error.

When this 'levy' on bank deposits was revealed over the weekend during a bank holiday, because it had to be submitted to a vote by the Cypriot Parliament, there was a general revulsion expressed amongst the markets and the people of Cyprus at such blatant misuse of the money power.

Monetary inflation, such as had been used in the US and UK, is more often used because so few people see their loss as blatantly as when the government simply confiscates 10 percent of their wealth on deposit. It is much easier done in smaller amounts, over longer periods of time. But one needs to have their own currency to do it. These days monetary policy and inflation is merely the continuation of bank fraud and plunder by other means.

By the way, this is why I thought the 'platinum coin' of a notional and whimsical trillion dollars in value was such an awful, dangerously cynical idea. It exposed the farce of monetary inflation in too great an amount, in too short a period of time, in a way in which too many people would readily understand it. And it therefore had the potential of fomenting a money panic.

Cyprus had been reasonably stable before the financial collapse, but was rocked by the Greek bond restructuring. What dealt a fatal blow was the impediment to borrowing because of a credit downgrade to BB+, which made the Cypriot bonds unacceptable as collateral to the ECB, and certainly not viable on the public markets.

And like many small, warm weather island nations, it's economy was overly dependent on tourism, retirement, and an outsized financial sector. Since Cyprus had been a British crown colony, its legal system resembles that of Britain, which still maintains significant military bases on the island, involving approximately 3,500 serving members.

Cyprus is in a bit of a box, because it really needs to leave the Eurozone and default on its obligations, and issue a currency of its own at a devaluation to the euro. But how would they recapitalize their banks, and what would the basis be for any reasonable valuation on this new currency?

If Cyprus owned gold reserves, or even forex reserves of some stable currency, they could make this the basis of their currency, while imposing capital controls. They could liquidate, nationalize if you will, the banks, and keep the depositors whole. Although the conversion to the new Cyprus currency would be a haircut of sorts, and likely impair their banking haven status.

Iceland was able to do something like this, and so was Russia for that matter, when they defaulted, devalued, and reissued the rouble back in the 1990's.

What would the Eurozone say if Cyprus forged a deal with Russia and provided them with military bases similar to the Sovereign Base Areas, currently occupied by the British, in return for a Russian bailout? Russia is a key debtholder and a major stakeholder in Cyprus. Their interests and presence must be dealt with, and carefully.

The question of Cyprus is important, not because it is a large and significant portion of the Eurozone economy. It is most certainly not, being much less than one percent of the total.

Rather, Cyprus is showing the fatal flaws in the conception of the Eurozone, and their single currency without real fiscal union, transfer payments, a common system of taxation, and a banker of last resort.

And it has also demonstrated the weakness of the guarantees by the bureaucrats, not only in Europe but elsewhere, when it comes to money.

This is a lesson that every central banker around the world should keep in mind. And the bureaucrats should remember that there is a step beyond which they may go, which will shatter the confidence of the people. And once that confidence is broken, it is very hard to recover it.

There is one lesson I hope that the people of the world take away from this. And that is to remember that a single currency is not possible without a complete union of monetary policy, and therefore a fiscal and political union that is complete and comprehensive. Otherwise a powerful group will wield monetary policy for their own benefit, and the rest of the currency area be damned.

When the single world currency proponents come around again with their proposals, what they are really proposing is a one world government to be established in the ensuing crisis which their actions will eventually provoke.

And despite the consistent capping of the precious metal markets, it demonstrates that there is only one money of last resort, that provides for no counterparty risk. And that is gold. And to a lesser extent the reserve currency of the world, which for now is the dollar.

It is confidence that sustains the integrity of a system based on counterparty risk, and it is that confidence that supports modern money. And where confidence declines, force is required. And where both force and faith fail, a break in confidence happens, and hyperinflation ensues. Hyperinflation is not simply a very high level of inflation.

A hyperinflation is a break in confidence, a monetary panic.

And in what is certainly a bit of historic irony, the German people are once again flirting with bank failures and a hyperinflation. But in this case it is because they, in their righteous indignation, are imposing the same kind of collective punishment, in terms and conditions of economic austerity and privation on others, that were imposed on them in post war reparation. Oh the irony, indeed.

Spring is in the air. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

Related: New Zealand Adopts 'Cyprus style' Levies to Protect Their Banks From Insolvency

[Feb 18, 2013] Helicopters can be dangerous by Gavyn Davies

February 17, 2013 | FT

Inflation Expectations

The traditional concern of central bankers is, of course, that the permanent monetisation of budget deficits will lead to an unhinging of inflation expectations. That is not exactly an original objection, but it cannot be swept under the carpet.

Lord Turner responds as follows. He believes that all forms of monetary or fiscal stimulus, conventional or unconventional, work by increasing nominal demand in the economy. Once demand is increased, the split between higher prices and higher real output is determined separately, according to whether there is enough spare capacity to allow real output to expand in line with the extra demand. The particular method used to increase demand is independent of how inflation responds to the monetary stimulus.

Turner prefers to choose a method which he knows will be successful in boosting demand, rather than worrying about the different inflationary consequences of different methods, because he does not allow much role for inflation expectations to be affected differently by OMF compared to QE. But there is the rub.

In both monetarist and new Keynesian models of the economy, permanent monetisation will eventually produce higher inflation [4], although "eventually" may refer to a very long time indeed. It is much more likely that inflation expectations could rise markedly under permanent monetisation and, in my view, that is not a price worth paying for (perhaps temporarily) higher output.

Conclusion

Does that mean that no-one should ever contemplate using permanent monetisation? Well, never is a long time, encompassing many possible scenarios. Adair Turner and Martin Wolf make a very convincing case that Japan cannot find any other way out of the public debt trap into which it has fallen, except default or deep recession. Japan needs actively to raise inflation expectations. But neither the US nor the UK are anywhere there yet.

Prospects for the Global Economy

"The pace of recovery in high-income countries is likely to remain disappointing. "
They are talking for expansion of 0.1% for some countries (Bulgaria, etc), but they should talk about stagnation as the accuracy of estimating inflation is probably around +/- 1% (that means that official 2% inflation can in reality well be 3%).

Four years after the onset of the global financial crisis, the world economy continues to struggle. Developing economies are still the main driver of global growth, but their output has slowed compared with the pre-crisis period. To regain pre-crisis growth rates, developing countries must once again emphasize internal productivity-enhancing policies. While headwinds from restructuring and fiscal consolidation will persist in high-income countries, they should become less intense allowing for a slow acceleration in growth over the next several years.

More than four years after the global financial crisis hit, high-income countries struggle to restructure their economies and regain fiscal sustainability.

Developing countries, where growth is 1-2 percentage points below what it was during the pre-crisis period, have been affected by the weakness in high-income countries. To regain pre-crisis growth rates, they will need to focus on productivity-enhancing domestic policies rather than demand stimulus.

Although the major risks to the global economy are similar to those of a year ago, the likelihood that they will materialize has diminished, as has the magnitude of estimated impacts should these events occur. Major downside risks include the loss of access to capital markets by vulnerable Euro Area countries, lack of agreement on U.S. fiscal policy and the debt ceiling, and commodity price shocks.

In an environment of slow growth and continued volatility, a steady hand is required in developing countries to avoid pro-cyclical policy and to rebuild macroeconomic buffers so that authorities can react in the case of new external or domestic shocks.

Headwinds:

While there have been substantial forces acting to slow the global economy in 2012, and many of these are expected to persist through 2013 and into 2014/15, there are also growing forces of recovery that should support prospects going forward.

In the United States, improving labor market conditions (since June 789,000 jobs have been added to the US economy and the unemployment rate has fallen from 8.2 to 7.8 percent) are helping to support income and consumer demand growth. These improvements should, if fiscal uncertainty is lifted, result in a strengthening of investment growth.

In addition, the restructuring in the housing market, which has been a persistent drag on growth since 2005 (between the fourth quarter of 2005 and the first quarter of 2011 residential investment activity fell by 58 percent), appears to have reached a turning point. While there are still many problems (including underwater mortgages and regional oversupply), the overall market has begun growing, supported by low mortgage rates. Some observers argue that the housing sector alone could add as much as 1.5 percentage points to US growth in 2013 (Slok, 2012). Indeed, increasingly tight housing market conditions have supported a recovery in prices and activity.[7]

Residential investment is up 14 percent from a year ago, sales of single-family homes rose 9.1 percent in the first 8 months of the year, and existing home sales reached a 27-month high in August. New single-family homes inventories are at an all-time low and, although rising somewhat, inventories of existing single-family homes remain at depressed levels.

Prospects, will depend importantly on how the remaining fiscal challenges of the United States, are dealt with. While the January 1, 2013 agreement on tax measures resolved most of the immediate concerns about the fiscal cliff, the legislation offers only a temporary reprieve (until end of February) before the remaining mandatory cuts to government spending included in the fiscal cliff kick in (approximately $110bn in 2013 or 0.1 percent of GDP).[8]

If no credible medium-term plan for fiscal consolidation is found by end of February and debt-ceiling legislation is unchanged or only short-term extensions provided for, the economy could be subjected to a series of mini-crises and political wrangling extending over the foreseeable future. This could have potentially strong negative consequences for confidence, and even the credit rating of the United States.[9]

In the baseline forecast of the Global forecast summary table, a deal is assumed to be found before March 2013 that prevents the remaining elements of the fiscal cliff from significantly disrupting economic activity in 2013. It assumes that in the new deal, the total of tax increases and expenditure cuts for 2013 will amount to about 1.6 percent of GDP and that progress is made towards establishing a credible medium-term plan to reduce spending and increase revenues. Moreover, it assumes that the deal includes agreement to provide for a medium-term path for the debt ceiling that is consistent with the medium-term plan.

The fiscal compression of this baseline is about 0.6 percentage points larger than in 2011, which contributes to a slowing of GDP growth from an estimated 2.2 percent in 2012 to 1.9 percent in 2013. In the outer years of the forecast, growth should pick up to around 3 percent, as the contractionary effects of continued consolidation are partially offset by improved confidence that the fiscal accounts are returning to a sustainable path. Should the fiscal impasse remain unresolved, the implications for growth in the United States and the rest of the world could be much more negative (see the more detailed discussion below).

Fed Watch: Safe Assets and the Coordination of Fiscal and Monetary Policy

Economist's View

Tim Duy:

Safe Assets and the Coordination of Fiscal and Monetary Policy, by Tim Duy: Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank President Esther George considers the long-run consequences of Federal Reserve policy:

But, while I agree with keeping rates low to support the economic recovery, I also know that keeping interest rates near zero has its own set of consequences. Specifically, a prolonged period of zero interest rates may substantially increase the risks of future financial imbalances and hamper attainment of the FOMC's 2 percent inflation goal in the future.

A long period of unusually low interest rates is changing investors' behavior and is reshaping the products and the asset mix of financial institutions. Investors of all profiles are driven to reach for yield, which can create financial distortions if risk is masked or imperfectly measured, and can encourage risks to concentrate in unexpected corners of the economy and financial system...The push toward increased risk-taking is the intention of such policy, but the longer-term consequences are not well understood.

We must not ignore the possibility that the low-interest rate policy may be creating incentives that lead to future financial imbalances. Prices of assets such as bonds, agricultural land, and high-yield and leveraged loans are at historically high levels. A sharp correction in asset prices could be destabilizing and cause employment to swing away from its full-employment level and inflation to decline to uncomfortably low levels. Simply stated, financial stability is an essential component in achieving our longer-run goals for employment and stable growth in the economy and warrants our most serious attention.

Brad DeLong wonders:

The Fed's current Quantitative Easing ∞ program involves its buying risky bonds--thus diminishing the pool of risky assets that the private sector can hold. Esther George objects because… it does not make complete sense to me...Because there is less in the way of risky assets for the private sector to hold--and because that pushes prices of risky assets up and returns on risky assets down--QE ∞ actually makes private-sector portfolios riskier? Is that the argument?

I think DeLong is looking at a continuum of assets from safe to risky, where cash anchors the safe end of the continuum. Right next to cash is the somewhat riskier Treasury security. Thus by exchanging cash for Treasury securities, you by definition must be removing risk from the continuum, and thus the public's portfolio is now less riskier.

But, as he notes, this is obviously not how George views the situation. And, note that George claims that the intention of Fed policy is in fact to push people into riskier portfolios, which implies that the Fed believes that they are in fact making the public's portfolio more, not less, risky. This implies that DeLong's view is not just in opposition to George's, but to that of the majority of policymakers as well.

I think a way you can explain George's position if you consider Treasuries as less risky than cash. At first, this sounds crazy, but if you assume there is no default risk (which I don't think there should be if you can print currency of the same denomination as the bond), then the Treasury bond may be perceived as a safer because it provides some return. Assuming no default risk, for any given inflation rate, the Treasury bond will thus be a safer store of value. If you viewed the world from this perspective, then the Fed is increasing riskiness of the public's portfolio.

This, however, is not how I think the Fed considers the situation. I think the Fed tends to view the public's desired cash holdings as roughly constant (although the rise in deposits would call this into question). If by QE the Fed swaps out some of the safe Treasury securities for cash, the public, not wanting to hold anymore cash, takes the cash and, by default, purchases riskier assets, and thus is left with holding a portfolio of riskier assets. George believes this disrupts the natural order of things by creating financial market distortions.

In any event, I tend to take this in a different direction from here. George appears to be saying that the Fed is eliminating (more accurately, removing) the safe assets that the public wants to hold. Suppose that this is true. Does this mean that the Fed should reverse policy to increase the proportion of safe assets in the public's hands? Or does it mean that another agency - perhaps a fiscal authority, hint, hint - should take action to increase the proportion of safe assets in the public's hands?

Once again, we come back to the issue of coordinating monetary and fiscal policy. If the public has a strong demand for noncash safe assets, monetary policy has something of a secondary role by providing an accommodative environment by which the fiscal authority can issue those assets. If the proportion of safe to risky assets is not "correct", the the fiscal authority should have a role in correcting that imbalance. In this world, then, it is not really the actions of the monetary authority that is creating the financial sector imbalances that concern George. It is the lack of action by the fiscal authority that creates those imbalances. George should be criticizing the fiscal authorities, not the monetary authority.

In other words, if a recession is the result of the public shifting to safe assets, the Fed is trying to respond by taking away the option of safe assets, leaving only risky assets. Instead, the Fed should view their role creating an environment (making clear that default is not an option) that allows the fiscal authority to issue more safe assets.

All of this, however, suggests that fiscal policy has a much greater role in stabilizing economy activity than conventional wisdom would hold. I suspect, however, that thinking along these lines is anathema to Federal Reserve officials who maintain that stabilization policy is the domain of monetary policy only. But if in fact there needs to be greater cooperation, and instead we continue to rely solely on monetary policy, then we will continue to experience less-than-satisfactory economic outcomes which will eventually endanger the cherished independence of central banks.

In short, I don't think you can have a discussion about the influence of monetary policy on the riskiness of the public's portfolio without including some discussion about the role of the issuer of those safe assets, the fiscal authority.

bakho :

Exactly.

Monetary policy does not operate in a vacuum.

Monetary policy operates in an economic system that includes fiscal and regulatory tools. It is a mistake to lock the fiscal and regulatory tools in a shed.

Fiscal policy ALWAYS operates in a recession, at least in the form of automatic stabilizers, (UI, etc.) and sometimes in the form of additional stimulus. The meagre automatic stabilizers currently in place are enough for a mild recession, but are woefully short of what is needed in a recession like the recent one.

The primary objection to fiscal policy manipulations is that fiscal policy is more easily politicized. This overlooks the fact that monetary policy is not only political but bankers (who constitute a wealthy special interest) have an agenda that tilts monetary policy to their own self interests.

The primary objection to using fiscal stimulus to address our unemployment crisis is POLITICAL. Wealthy special interests want pay less taxes and short term stimulus would interfere with their political agenda to roll back spending and reduce spending as a percent of GDP.

Wealthy special interests have the upper hand at the moment because enough politicians are dependent on their campaign donations. However, this politicalization of fiscal policy, doing too little to address unemployment, is the prime force behind the Fed keeping interest rates low. If enough fiscal stimulus was enacted to quickly return to full employment and inflation at or slightly above the target, the Fed would not have to consider extraordinary measures.

Anyone unhappy about extraordinary monetary measures should be urging Congress to fix unemployment now. This is not what our elites are doing. They are complaining about extraordinary monetary measures AND about additional stimulus. This suggests that these policy elites care nothing about social problems of long term unemployment, are content to have the US become a divided nation between haves and have nots and are content to oversee the creation of an underclass in order to concentrate wealthy upward.

Xylix :

A hideously complex explanation.

First, let me propose a law of finance:

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Conservation of Risk: Financial manipulation, no matter how complex, can not change the total amount of risk present within a system.
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In other words, financial manipulation can transfer risk between entities but it cannot reduce it. If our retarded financial system had grasped this, the entire scheme involving AAA bonds would have been torpedoed before it began.

What does this mean? In this context it tells us that one of three things must be true:

1) The Fed is transferring risk from the private sector to the public.
2) The risk distribution of the private/public sector is unchanged.
3) The Fed is transferring risk from the public sector to the private.

Now for case #1 to be true, the Fed must have increased its risk by absorbing potential financial loss. However, by its very structure, the Fed can never take a loss. Any loss experienced by the Fed will eventually be transferred to the broader economy via inflation.

As such, case #1 is implausible. Doubly so when we include the fact that the public sector is debt financed and thus extracts a huge boon in the form of depressed interest rates. Thus, the rational conclusion is that monetary policy is currently causing case #3.

Brad DeLong is wrong.

Incidentally, increased risk in the private sector is exactly what we want. One of the primary points of monetary policy is to coerce private entities into spending their savings. This is done by making existing investments less profitable (reduced interest rates) while shoving up inflation (increased loss potential). Through this means that wealthy are forced to 'use it or lose it'.

Of course, it a better question is whether risk is being transferred to the right private entities...

Joshua Wojnilower :

When considering the spectrum of assets, I think it's important to consider not only the riskiness but also duration. At the short-end, the Fed has been swapping Treasuries for interest-paying reserves, which are practically equivalent from a risk perspective. At the long-end, the Fed has been removing Treasuries and Agency-MBS, which are the least risky assets. Therefore, at least at the long-end, the Fed is removing the safest assets and leaving the private sector with a riskier basket, on average.

Separately, I agree that the fiscal authority is the primary option for increasing the quantity of safe assets, if desired by the private sector. The recent years of trillion dollar deficits has gone a long way towards doing so.

All that being said, I think George makes a good point about financial imbalances that is misunderstood by DeLong. The Fed is knowingly reducing the quantity of safe assets, especially at the long-end, with hopes of pushing asset prices higher than they otherwise would be. Higher prices, however, do not imply higher earnings or lower default rates. It is very possible that this could create asset bubbles that ultimately burst with unknown consequences for inflation and employment.

bakho :

In a recession, the relative risk of many investments goes sky high. Investments that have a good prospect of decent returns when demand is near or above capacity have no chance of delivering returns when the gap between demand and capacity is enormous.

At higher interest rates, returns must be greater to make investment worthwhile. When the Fed lowers rates it lowers the necessary return and promotes riskier investments. However, in a severe recession, the interest rates cannot go low enough to cover the increase in risk. The only way to reduce the risk (and increase investment) is to increase demand.

Discussions of "flight to safety" are fine, but they often ignore the change in risk for investments that is a function of demand.

bakho :

In the 1990s, the US had much better coordination of fiscal and monetary policy. Coming out of the recession, we had extension of EITC and other benefits for the unemployed and working poor. As the unemployed moved to work, fiscal spending was reduced, particularly on the military but the economy was stimulated by subsidizing low income workers rather than direct hiring of labor by BigG and competing with the workforce.

Today we have no effort on the part of our Congress to coordinate fiscal policy with monetary policy. In fact, many of our ruling elites are denialists who don't even believe that fiscal policy has a role in ending recessions. This lack of coordination is problematic for monetary policy.

When did economic policy stop coordinating fiscal and monetary policy?

By the end of the 1990s, the US economy was at full employment and fiscal policy was collecting over 20 percent of GDP as revenue. At this time fiscal and monetary policy split. Unhappy with the rise in the BigG share of revenue the Greenspan Fed tightened the money supply which on top of the fiscal contraction due to taxation, was too much contraction. This sent the US economy into a recession.

During the recession, the money supply was increased, revenue was slashed and fiscal spending was increased. On the fiscal side, rather than spend on job creation, making up the gap for the loss of wage subsidy or efforts to create Jobs and demand, fiscal policy increased spending on defense, one of the least stimulatory forms of spending, and decreased taxes a lot on the wealthy and practically nothing for the lowest incomes- a formula that provides little additional economic demand.

The Middle Class was presented with rising housing prices as a way to replace lost wages with "investment income". However, the "investment" was a scam and the housing bubble burst.

Economic policy first went off the rails in the late 1990s. The sharp rise in inequality, that was briefly halted in the mid-1990s, took off again. The sad part is that many of our wealthy policy elites are satisfied with the rise in inequality and the damage it does to an economy and a society. Today lack of coordination between fiscal and monetary policy is in large part due to the politicization of fiscal policy by wealthy special interests who are intent on manipulating fiscal policy for their own short term personal gain and care nothing about the state of the domestic economy or the majority of its citizens.

Mark A. Sadowski :

"I think a way you can explain George's position if you consider Treasuries as less risky than cash. At first, this sounds crazy, but if you assume there is no default risk (which I don't think there should be if you can print currency of the same denomination as the bond), then the Treasury bond may be perceived as a safer because it provides some return..."

Except that Treasuries don't provide a positive return through the 10-year Treasury Bond when one adjusts for inflation:

http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/interest-rates/Pages/TextView.aspx?data=realyield

So that's certainly not the distinction.

And money, for all intents and purposes is essentially a zero maturity T-bill. Since the risk premia increases with the term of the bond, there's nothing safer or more liquid than cash.

That's why fundamentally excess demand for safe assets is an excess money demand problem. The Fed isn't reducing the supply of safe assets by satisfying the demand for money, and in fact by raising nominal income expectations the Fed will ultimately increase the supply of private safe assets.

"In this world, then, it is not really the actions of the monetary authority that is creating the financial sector imbalances that concern George. It is the lack of action by the fiscal authority that creates those imbalances. George should be criticizing the fiscal authorities, not the monetary authority."

George is most certainly not advocating the generation of more T-Bills through fiscal stimulus. Like all hawks her primary concern is the risk of inflation. And her dim view of the Fed's recent turn towards unemployment thresholds should be a clue that she doesn't think unemployment is a problem.

Matt Young:

The bond market is a very safe bet as long as growth rates remain in the state they are, a 35 year decline. Just hold onto bonds as nominal rates decline and bond values rise. There is no clearer evidence of this affect then the recent downgrades to growth we just witnessed.

The Fed has clear evidence that real growth rates are negative, mainly because of fiscal actions by DC. The real concern is not directly stated, namely the Fed has no business in driving real rates down, even if fiscal policy demands it. At this point, the Fed has to take actions that get us out of the recession, not create more of a recession. They are stuck, legally.

The High Price Of Understated Inflation

01/23/2013 | Tyler Durden

The reliable data which policymakers and the public need if effective solutions are to be found is not available. As Tullett Prebon's Tim Morgan notes, economic data has been subjected to incremental distortion; Data distortion can be divided into two categories. Economic data has been undermined by decades of methodological change which have distorted the statistics to the point where no really accurate data is available for the critical metrics of inflation, growth, output, unemployment or debt. Fiscal data, meanwhile, obscures the true scale of government obligations. While he does not believe that the debauching of US official data is the result of any grand conspiracy to mislead the American people; he does see it as an incremental process which has taken place over more than four decades. From 'owner equivalent rent" to 'hedonics', few series have been distorted more than published numbers for inflation, and few if any economic measures are of comparable importance; and the ramifications of understated inflation are huge.

Is the Refi 'Apocalypse' Really Upon Us

Yahoo! Finance

Witness the 10 percent drop in refinance applications from a week ago, on the Mortgage Bankers Association's weekly report.The rate on the 30-year fixed moved from 3.62 percent to 3.67 percent.

"We're busy because we're pushing," says Julian Hebron at California-based RPM Mortgage. "Mostly people have been lulled into complacency by long-term rate lows, and it's common for them to maintain their 'It'll come back down' stance when rates rise. But rates are now up .375 percent, and it may hold given MBS/Treasury market technicals and moderately improving economic fundamentals. The complacency has a lot to do with rates having been low enough to make no-cost refis easy. But when rates rise this much, the no-cost options go away and people tend to wake up."

In Bethesda, Maryland, Apex Home Loans CEO, Craig Strent, says a rise in rates could actually bring in more business in the short term.

(Read more: What to Expect from Interest Rates This Year)

"There is a huge population that have benefitted from adjustable rate mortgages. When the rates adjusted, they adjusted down. Those homeowners have been riding those low, one-year arms. If they start to hear about rates going up, they may come out of the woodwork to lock into fixed rates," says Strent.

That may be, but 88 percent of loans outstanding today are fixed, according to the Mortgage Bankers Association. Just 12 percent are adjustable rate. Even if rates do not rise any higher than they are today, which they may not, they would have to fall below last year's lows to see the high refinance volume of 2012 continue in 2013.

ErnstG

I've paid off my mortgage. But there is no relief. All my other costs are NOT fixed. Property taxes, Home Insurance, Water bills, Utility bills, HOA fees. Those are all inflating like balloons. They could keep rates low, while pumping money into banking system. But there is no escaping laws of economics, the inflation is gonna get you.

[Dec 06, 2012] Hyperinflation and the Pernicious Myth of Modern Monetary Theory: Dollar Vigilantes

And the problem is not even so much the Fed's propensity to stimulation in the manner of Keynes. The problem is that they are pouring the stimulus into an unreformed rathole of corruption, in the manner of sending aid to a country where it is intercepted by thieves and regional warlords, with little reaching the people.

"One might argue that when the government has to find a private sector buyer for its debt first, rather than selling the debt directly to the central bank, that imposes a certain degree of market discipline on fiscal policy. But it's hard to see that there is all that much of a disciplinary bonus here.

When a central bank announces that it is prepared to buy government securities, the announcement automatically guarantees an eager private sector market for the securities – if there wasn't one already. If dealers know that they can promptly re-sell newly purchased securities to the central bank, at some amount over the purchase price no matter how low, then they know they can make a profit from the purchase...

This is why we have no need to worry about those dreaded bond vigilantes in a country like the US that controls its own currency and monetary operations. To the extent that the Fed signals it is willing to buy US debt aggressively, the Treasury can set almost any price it wants for its debt. So it's not just that there is no insolvency threat haunting US public debt. There is also not a bond vigilante attack threat – not unless the Fed allows that attack to occur."

New Economic Perspectives, Neoliberal Mythologies

The limit of the Fed's ability to monetize sovereign debt is the value of the dollar and its acceptance, at value, for the exchange of goods in a non-compulsory environment. And there is nothing neo-liberal about this. I don't like the neo-liberal approach, but this notion of pain-free monetization is nuts.

If one chooses to not worry so much about the 'bond vigilantes,' history suggest that they may well have a care for what I would call the 'dollar vigilantes.'

The Fed may be hard pressed to buy dollars with - dollars.

The problem with such an approach is that one can ignore the risk for a time, trusting to probability and chance, but when the possible becomes more likely with repetition, it often results in a disaster. It is sort of like driving while texting, a tourist eating street food in Asia, or a small speculator being a non-insider customer at the Comex.

In a increasingly Machiavellian way, they could set up a reciprocity with another central bank or two, say, the BofE and BofJ, and perhaps even the ECB, and I think this has been done even if informally in the past.

But the limitations are still there, even if hidden in a fog of financial engineering. Such an arrangement, which I think exists somewhat informally today, is merely kicking the can of currency failure down the road.

"This is why we have no need to worry about those dreaded bond vigilantes in a country like the US that controls its own currency and monetary operations."
Overt monetization only works for a protracted period in a system in which one has political control over everyone who uses that currency. The logical outcome of a global dollar regime with unilateral monetization is an eventual bid for a one world government where a false vision of reality can be enforced with -- force. Force and fraud are the perennial instruments of economic tyranny.

Hence we are in what is called 'the currency war' wherein the US dollar monetarists are attempting to increasingly impose their will on the rest of the world, and a portion of the rest of the world defers to accept that arrangement.

Blatant exposure is the most dreaded pitfall of any Ponzi scheme. A fiat currency is based on faith and confidence, and the monetary magicians can hardly show their hand, directly monetizing debt without any independent restraint, for fear of provoking a panic, first at the fringes and then at the core of the nation, or empire.

That is the policy error that is also known as 'hyperinflation,' a break in confidence in a currency that is analogous to a 'run on the bank.' It is the case for hyperinflation which I am watching, and still give a low probability. I am fairly sure that even Zimbabwe Ben would not fall for such an obvious trap. But the craven dissembling of Alan Greenspan was also hard to imagine, until it happened.

Instances of Hyperinflation from Diocletian to Bernanke

There are other ways to deal with unpayable debts than merely printing money. A novel idea is to make the issuers and holders of the bonds bear the negative effects of their bad judgement, as in the case of Iceland. But the Banks will always try to shift the burden, which they have created, to the financially illiterate and the weak.

And the problem is not even so much the Fed's propensity to stimulation in the manner of Keynes. The problem is that they are pouring the stimulus into an unreformed rathole of corruption, in the manner of sending aid to a country where it is intercepted by thieves and regional warlords, with little reaching the people.

The US does not have a spending problem so much as it has a 'corrupt financial system problem,' a 'wealth inequality problem with a stagnant wage base,' an 'unsustainable healthcare model problem,' and 'a free trade without adequate domestic policy based boundaries problem.' It was not all that long ago that the US was holding a small annual surplus. What changed was financial deregulation with the financialization of the economy, the easing of trade conditions, concentration of corporate power, tax cuts for the wealthiest, a corrupting political campaign bubble, and unfunded discretionary wars with their associated profiteering.

Forcing small business and workers to compete with state directed slave labor while maintaining a social system founded on private business and median worker wages is insane. The capitalists are not yet selling them the rope, but they are certainly selling them the 97%, and with them the bulk of their customer demand over time.

Perhaps the biggest problem is, as Lord Acton observed, that when you have a concentration of power, men with the mentality of gangsters have taken control. And the US financial system and corporate structure are highly concentrated based on historical standards, resembling the worst of the gilded age of robber barons, or some third world oligarchy in which the people live in voiceless misery.

In summary, I call this 'just monetize the debt without restraint' alternative the "pernicious myth of modern monetary theory." There are quite a few examples of how this sort of other worldly myth, like the efficient market hypothesis, the Black-Scholes risk model, and the benefits of unrestricted trade, have turned out in the past. When you crush the reality out of a model with a few key assumptions that allow you to obtain a license to do what you will, you often open a Pandora's Box.

The real shame is that an economic tragedy is not outside the plans of some of the worst of the country's elite. Crisis provides opportunity if one is powerful enough, positioned for it, and egotistically twisted enough to think that they can control the madness once it is unleashed. I suggested that the Bankers would make the country another 'offer that they think it cannot refuse' as they did in the manner of TARP. The so called fiscal cliff may be the wrapping paper for it.

I am not suggesting that the current debt based currency system is optimal, not at all. The continual theme here is that the financial system is broken, and that it is based on an unsustainable US dollar regime, and the excesses of money creation through credit expansion by private banks. But to merely shift the corruption from the banks to their partners in the government Treasury is hardly a viable solution.

The answer, as I calculate it, is transparency and reform, and equal justice for all, with malice towards none, in the rule of law. That is an ideal never fully achievable, but that is the benchmark, and one that is worth pursuing, It is sustainable if held close, and continually renewed. That is the spirit of the American experiment in equality and freedom, and is something worth fighting for.

"The man who is admired for the ingenuity of his larceny is almost always rediscovering some earlier form of fraud. The basic forms are all known, have all been practiced. The manners of capitalism improve. The morals may not."

John Kenneth Galbraith, The Age of Uncertainty


"Gentlemen! I too have been a close observer of the doings of the Bank of the United States. I have had men watching you for a long time, and am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country.

When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin!

Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I have determined to rout you out, and by the Eternal, (bringing his fist down on the table) I will rout you out."

Andrew Jackson, Andrew Jackson and the Bank of the United States (1928) by Stan V. Henkels


"Do not forget that every people deserves the regime it is willing to endure!

Please make as many copies of this leaflet as you can and distribute them.

The White Rose, First Leaflet, Munich, 1942

[Aug 25, 2012] Unfounded Fear of Inflation

As a follow up to this post on Inflation Lessons from Paul Krugman:

Demand-siders like me saw this as very much a slump caused by inadequate spending: thanks largely to the overhang of debt from the bubble years, aggregate demand fell, pushing us into a classic liquidity trap.

But many people - some of them credentialed economists - insisted that it was actually some kind of supply shock instead. Either they had an Austrian story in which the economy's productive capacity was undermined by bad investments in the boom, or they claimed that Obama's high taxes and regulation had undermined the incentive to work (of course, Obama didn't actually impose high taxes or onerous regulations, but leave that aside for now).

How could you tell which story was right? One answer was to look at the behavior of ... inflation. For if you believed a demand-side story, you would also believe that even a large monetary expansion would have little inflationary effect; if you believed a supply-side story, you would expect lots of inflation from too much money chasing a reduced supply of goods. And indeed, people on the right have been forecasting runaway inflation for years now.

Yet the predicted inflation keeps not coming. ... So what we've had is as good a test of rival views as one ever gets in macroeconomics - which makes it remarkable that the GOP is now firmly committed to the view that failed.

[Oct 13, 2011] Will internal devaluation work

naked capitalism

Edward here again. I was talking to my friend Rob Parenteau about internal devaluation. He doesn't think it will work. His argument against it is similar to the one I have been making about the origins of this crisis. Here's what I said.

I do not believe this private sector balance sheet recession can be successfully tackled via collective public sector deficit spending balanced by a private sector deleveraging. The sovereign debt crisis in Greece tells you that. More likely, the western world's collective public sectors will attempt to pull this off. But, at some point debt revulsion will force a public sector deleveraging as well.

And unfortunately, a collective debt reduction across a wide swathe of countries cannot occur indefinitely under smooth glide-path scenarios. This is an outcome which lowers incomes, which lowers GDP, which lowers the ability to repay. We will have a sovereign debt crisis. The weakest debtors will default and haircuts will be taken. The question still up for debate is regarding systemic risk, contagion, and economic nationalism because when the first large sovereign default occurs, that's when systemic risk will re-emerge globally.

Rob puts why internal devaluation is not a plausible strategy differently. Here's the flow of his argument.

1.Many nations try internal devaluation at the same time; 2.Private sectors have debt to income ratios that well exceed public debt to income ratios; 3.Credit to households to supplement buying power (in excess of wage and salary) is unlikely to be forthcoming given the mess in the banking system and the falling price of (real estate and equity) collateral; 4.Many nations are pursuing multiyear fiscal consolidation, which is proving far from expansionary to date; 5.Many countries around the world are already trying to run export led growth strategies, and not only is it impossible for the whole world to run a current account surplus, but there is no market or policy mechanism insuring that the current account surplus nations reinvest their net savings in productive investments in the current account deficit nations that will allow the current account deficit nations to service their external liabilities without defaulting. Rob encouraged me to re-read Chapter 19 of Keynes' General Theory, saying

"We know these deflationist arguments inside out. We know why lowering wages is unlikely to introduce a self-stabilizing return to a full employment growth path."

I skimmed through Chapter 19 on "Changes in Money-Wages" as Rob suggested. Here's the quote that bears remembering:

"the volume of employment is uniquely correlated with the volume of effective demand measured in wage-units, and that the effective demand, being the sum of the expected consumption and the expected investment cannot change, if the propensity to consume, the schedule of marginal efficiency of capital and the rate of interest are all unchanged. If, without any change in these factors, the entrepreneurs were to increase employment as a whole, their proceeds will necessarily fall short of their supply-price."

Yes, that is where I was going with my thoughts yesterday on manufacturing inflation in a wage deflationary environment. I said that "until incomes rise enough to support the debt (numerator) or you get enough credit writedowns so that incomes support the debt (denominator), it's not going to work." What I meant was that we have household sector balance sheet problems. Unless you fix the debt/income number instead of the debt/GDP number, the balance sheet problem remains. Eroding the real burden of debt is dependent not on raising nominal GDP, but on raising nominal income to keep pace with consumer price inflation. A lot of economists are talking about 'market-clearing' wage prices, that is lowering incomes, to reduce unemployment. That will make the debt problem larger and leads to a debt deflationary outcome.

Bottom line: you won't cut your way to prosperity. While you need to see a lot more credit writedowns to get through this crisis, the best one can hope for from the deflationary path is a reduction in debt from these defaults and writedowns with debt deflation attenuated by automatic stabilizers. This outlook is especially true when you see a collective debt reduction across a wide swathe of countries in both public and private sectors as we saw in the 1930s and as we are seeing again today.

More on this topic (What's this?) America's Only Escape From its Debt Noose (Part I) (Wall Street Daily, 8/3/11) Prisoners of Debt: Inside the Global Banking Crisis (Finance Documentaries, 9/24/11) The Debt Compromise Doesn't Cut the Debt (Learn Mining News, 7/31/11) Read more on Debt at Wikinvest Topics: Guest Post, Macroeconomic policy, The destruction of the middle class, The dismal science

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Selected Comments
rn
at 7:49 pm My two cents worth of responses.

I think it is a problem of income/wealth inequality/ distribution. There is probably some optimal level of inequality to sustain economic growth.

It may be possible to lower wages across the board )with reduced level of inequality,) to bring back economic growth.

I wish some economists do serious research on inequality to understand depressions.

rd
at 8:35 pm Current income inequality levels in the Us are similar to the late 1920s. We know what followed then, and we seem on track to follow a similar path now.

Income inequality was MUCH lower in the 50s and 60s which seems to be the golden age of US growth over the past century.

While I am always careful about correlation vs. causation, there are probably some strong linkages here that are not coincidence.

I will note that sensible regulation following basic principles of the financial sector appears to coincide with lower income inequality while high income inequality appears to coincide with unfettered speculation in the financial sector. Some leash on the animal spirits may be necessary.

Anonymous Jones
at 9:03 pm

Some have posited that it is the very process of going from relatively equal wealth distribution to relatively unequal wealth distribution that generates outlier growth numbers.

These same people predicted that China's growth would outstrip India's because the communist revolution leveled the playing field and set the stage for massive transfers of wealth from the masses to new oligarchs.

I am agnostic regarding this theory. It is interesting, however. Depressing, but interesting.

joebhed
at 9:33 pm The income -wealth distribution gap manifests itself in the difference between the creators of monetary assets, who own these 'money-based' debt instruments of various colors and flavors, and the rest of us, who pay the interest on those monetary assets. Forever through compounding interest.

Through "financialization", the pace and scale of the monied enrichment of the few has erupted noticeably over the past dozen years, but it has been underway from the times of the earliest of financial deregulation, and before.

You cannot attack wealth mal-distribution without attacking the tools and vehicles of its success – the private creation of purchasing power by the financialistas and the capital marketeers who create NOTHING of real wealth in the real national economy. And if you want to end that, then you better understand how the monetary system works. And take it back. Because it does not work for the restofus.

For the Money System Common.

liberal
at 10:17 pm

"I wish some economists do serious research on inequality to understand depressions."

The current depression is not caused by income inequality; rather, both have the same root cause: economic rent.

Patrick
at 11:04 pm By definition it is a distributional problem: for every debtor their is a creditor!
nonclassical
at 4:11 pm ..actually this fits nicely with Michael Hudson's article on "debt deflation"; both appear accurate. especially given historical documentation on 30′s era depression..
friend
at 8:26 pm I am trying to follow along.

What I am weakest on is "how"?

I get (think I get) that bad debts have to be written down. Some folks will absorb pain.

The who and how much is fuzzy to me.

Can you give the practical way forward? Or a couple possibilities, if that occurs to you?

Jim Haygood
at 8:35 pm Probably the most successful example EVER of an 'internal devaluation' was Frank Roosevelt's 40% devaluation of the dollar from 0.0475 to 0.0286 troy ounce of gold during 1933-34.

Mind you, I don't approve of his high-handed seizure of privately-held gold, and nullification of gold clauses in bonds (the sole technical default in U.S. history, according to Reinhardt and Rogoff).

But the internal devaluation against gold stopped the raging deflation in its tracks, and ushered in a recovery until 1937.

Owing to another high-handed act by Nixon in 1971, such an officially-decreed internal devaluation is now impossible … although the market has imposed one on its own.

What the gold market knows is that irredeemable fiat currencies are one of the few real-world examples of that phenomenon which so scandalizes the editorial page of the Times-Titanic: the dreaded 'race to the bottom.'

With the incomparable Benny Bubbles chairing the Fed, that's a race we can win, by God.

USA No. 1!!!

joebhed
at 9:43 pm As you said, it was necessary to stop the gold-flavored deflation that was spiraling us to ruin – that's why FDR did it. That's what leaders do – what is needed. And it was hardly a seizure, as I understand the word. All the gold was accumulated by the government in order to restore the economy to its potential, and the original holders received the price that the gold was worth in $US. It seems a small price to get America working again.
Eric
at 9:48 am It was a seizure by any reasonable definition of the word. The legitimate holders of a certain property were obligated to give up that property at a price that was imposed on them by an entity that both had and was willing to use (and, in fact did use) coersive forces to compel the transaction. But it did accomplish what was intended economically.

This is entirely speculative, but I think there is a good possibility that the set of citizens that are currently heavily invested in gold – particularly those that physically keep it – and the set of citizens that are heavily armed, relying on second amendment rights, might overlap substantially. I don't think that sending out Treasury agents, FBI or others would work as effectively today as in the 1930s.

reslez
at 6:08 pm Owing to another high-handed act by Nixon in 1971, such an officially-decreed internal devaluation is now impossible … although the market has imposed one on its own.

Yes, quite a shame we're no longer on a gold standard so we can unshackle ourselves from it again. /sarcasm

The equivalent could easily be accomplished by sufficient tax cuts or federal spending. This need not be matched by debt issuance. When there's a shortage of money the solution is not to shrug your hands in helplessness, the solution is to create more money. "Revulsion"… please get serious. We have 30 year mortgages under 4%.

Dan Kervick
at 8:41 pm This is a great post Edward. But I have a question about the Keynes post. Doesn't an increase in employment increase the propensity to consume?
alex
at 7:55 am "if only Keynes were with us now"

He'd be so disgusted he'd stop commenting. "You idiots have learned nothing in over 70 years, indeed you've forgotten what you did learn then."

Mel
at 4:45 pm It can, but without a net effect.

If you double the number of people employed by halving the wage paid to each - sure you may have doubled the 'propensity' to consume (desire) but you've halved the money.

By my formula, demand = desire * money stays exactly the same.

TulsaTime
at 8:58 pm No finish line in that race to the bottom. It's only over when the last one stops, when the financial devastation is complete. The nice thing is that we for sure will not have to worry about sky-net at that point!

Real war pulls the plug on the greatest depreciation contest. Although I don't know who would be fool enough to buy the bonds for that one.

nonclassical
at 4:15 pm ..rumour is huge middle-east conflagration on the way..Iran and others including U.S. or U.S. proxy Israel..
Sy Krass
at 7:19 pm Actually, war will not have the same impact now as it did in the 40′s. All the ordinance has been manufactured, such a war if it were to come would be quick, destructive, not very profitable, and oil would go up. Not a recipee for recovery in my book.
joebhed
at 9:17 pm Hhmmmm…. – the financial-economic intelligencia have come to the same conclusion as the world's central bankers – the jig is up, and we don't know what to do.

The national enigma is stated succinctly in the new (HR-2990) version of the Kucinich Bill, Finding No. 10 states – ""(10) Congress is stymied by competing forces: a desire to put people to work and an aversion to borrowing money to create programs to do so.""

This aversion to borrowing money is caused by economy-wide debt-saturation, which is in turn brought about by our debt-based money system.

Ed and Rob, searching for any fix that will restore aggregate demand(a desire to put people to work) find themselves, and we, in an enigma somewhat wrapped in a riddle, similar to the HR 2990 Finding.

So, it's a chicken and egg situation, in which NO PROGRESS can be made. The economists and the financialists are, hopefully, very slowly discovering the pre-eminent reality of the national economy – it is based on a monetary system THAT CANNOT WORK.

The sooner y'all get that, the sooner the MMTers and the post-Keynesians can get on board with the Kucinich solution to this monetary system-based national economic paralysis. We need a new money system, plain and simple.

We need a money system where we can have money to provide the means of exchange necessary without debt. To do what? To put the people to work.

As Simons so eloquently stated: "The tragedy is in our learning to accept debt, and to fear money".

The National Emergency Employment Defense(NEED) Act of 2011 is available here. http://kucinich.house.gov/UploadedFiles/NEED_Act_FINAL_112th.pdf

It's about friggin' time we started talking about it.

Unless you have a better idea. Mr. Beard?

nonclassical
at 4:18 pm ..banks and a government BASED ON that "monetary-debt" system, and who CONTROL such, will NEVER "give it up"…

(till it collapses-reading U.S. history)

joebhed
at 5:25 pm Well, yeah. We're waiting.

My dad, who was a christian-capitalist businessman turned monetary reformer, an avowed anti-socialist, only ever quoted this from Marx: "Revolution is Ninety-percent opportunity".

Understanding, as he did, the mechanics and mathematics of the debt-based money system, and understanding the innate ability of those bankers to create and destroy ever-larger bubbles, he advised that we would have one 'opportunity' to fix this thing in my lifetime – and that the one 'opportunity' would come about three years after we increased the national debt by a $Trillion dollars in one year. So, that's why we're here with an alternative.

F. Beard
at 9:39 pm Unless you have a better idea. joebhed

It's not my idea, in fact it is hinted at in Matthew 22:16-22 ("Render to Caesar …"), but we need separate government and private money supplies. Then the government could freely spend without imposing a "stealth inflation tax" on the private sector. That should silence the "deficit hawks" since they would be free to use private currencies to escape price inflation in the government's fiat. In fact, excess fiat creation would make it EASIER for the private sector to pay taxes because the cost of fiat would drop.

But along with fundamental reform, the entire population, including savers, should be bailed out equally with full legal tender fiat from all private debt. That could be done without serious price inflation risk if banks were forbidden to create any more credit AND if the bailout checks were metered to just replace existing credit as it is paid off.

Politically, a bailout of the entire population should be much for acceptable than excessive infrastructure spending. Who doesn't believe that they can spend more wisely than the government?

Crazy Horse
at 10:56 pm If a country like Iceland can default and be back on their feet within two years when their major resource is codfish, why can't the dominant nation of the most resource-rich continent on the planet do the same?

As appealing as the Kucinich bill is, it doesn't clear away the deadwood. When the new American Money replaces the old private Federal Reserve Notes as the medium of exchange, what better time to start over again with economic democracy? Every citizen should receive $50,000 in new American Money as starting capital– Bill Gates and a crack dealer from the Bronx would then have an equal opportunity to display their entrepreneurial skills. Bill might initially have trouble paying the heating bill on his Mercer Island mansion, but with 60,000 sq. ft. he should have plenty of rooms he could rent out.

I doubt if there would be a shortage of consumer demand, and entrepreneurs would grow like weeds out of the potholes in every street to satisfy that demand.

Since there would be no exchange between the old dead and abandoned Federal Reserve currency and the legal American Money, all existing debts will be wiped out. Or better, transfer them to the newly formed public State Banks where they will be administered as a form of tax liability and help capitalize the North Dakota model public banking utility that will replace the TBTF vampire banks.

We might have a little trouble maintaining our 75% oil importation level, but I'm sure there is something we could re-learn to manufacture that the rest of the world wants. Might even have to start manufacturing I-Pads here-.

Totally politically unacceptable you say? I wouldn't be so sure by the time 40% of Americans have lost their homes only to watch them be bulldozed to the ground by the Repo agents, and marchers in the street are waving AK-47′s instead of signs that say "Visualize World Peace".

Externality
at 11:47 pm Unless you also seize the hard assets of wealthy bankers and other elites, this approach seems extremely unfair. An American with their life savings in the bank or dollar-denominated bonds loses everything over $50K, while wealthy bankers with multiple mansions get to keep their property. Consider the following:

John Doe had $100K in the bank, and no other assets. They are left with $50K.

Lloyd the banker has $100K in the bank, and owns $10MM mansions in the Hamptons, San Francisco, and France. They are left with $50K in money and $30MM in property.

Ben the banker had $100K in the bank, and a $10MM mansion. He front-runs the conversion and buys Japanese Yen. He now had $50K in dollars, $100K dollars in Yen, and a $10MM mansion.

(Names are not intended to refer to actual people.)

This approach, in other words, would punish savers with dollar-denominated assets while increasing, in relative terms, the wealth of bankers, large landowners, etc.

Linus Huber
at 7:16 am I do agree with you. First and foremost those looters have to be taken to account. I am not talking about the entrepreneurs but about those who enriched themselves over the past many years while not having any downside risk as well, like an entrepreneur is exposed too. The downside risk was taken over by the Government (tax payer) and they are factually simply employees who looted the system.

This is not simply a matter of economics but a matter of fairness and justice. When the law does not resembles justice anymore due to corruption at the top, it is high to put this aspect first before considering any other economic measures. Western society is based on the rule of law but the spirit of this rule of law has been violated repeatedly and is destroying the social fabric that allows a nation to florish.

Linus Huber
at 7:17 am … it is high TIME …
Crazy Horse
at 2:23 pm A few somewhat tongue in cheek paragraphs do not constitute an entire economic system! For instance, given the political power to institute such a radical change to the banking system, there should be no problem formulating a progressive taxation schedule for residential property. $1.00 per year for 1,000 square ft., $100,000 per year for 10,000 square ft, and ten million per year for 50,000 square ft. seems about right. Second homes assessed at double rate, third homes at triple rate- you get the picture!
Kevin de Bruxelles
at 3:35 am The meme that the Icelandic economy is "back on its feet" is almost as silly as the green shoots meme a couple years ago. Please have a look at the hard numbers. Icelandic unemployment is now around 8%, it averaged less than 2 % before the crisis. That means it is up at least 400%. A similar jump in the US would mean our normal 5% unemployment would have jumped to and stayed at 20%. I hardly think anyone would be saying the US economy was "back on its feet" with at least four times the unemployment rate of the pre-crisis period.

Also since Icelandic mortgages are indexed to the price of living (which is basically a reflection of the weakness of their Krona). So since the Icelandic Krona is worth half (was 90 per Euro, now 180) of its pre-crisis value, the amount due on mortgages has skyrocketed while the price of most goods has doubled since almost everything (except fish and energy for heating) is imported.

What I was told is that almost most Icelandic men are now working 60 hours a week. They typically have full time jobs but take a second job in the tourist industry. Even with this effort they are unable to maintain their pre-crisis standard of living.

So if all this means an economy is "back on its feet" then America and Europe must be simply booming!

Eric
at 1:23 pm Wouldn't that work out to up 300%?
Kevin de Bruxelles
at 3:19 pm Yes you are right, 300% is correct.
Crazy Horse
at 7:02 pm I guess there are different definitions for "landing on your feet!" After doing the unthinkable Icelanders are making do by working extra hours: that in itself is remarkable. It hardly seems reasonable to hold up as the standard the living conditions temporarily achieved by a bubble economy. And by the way, how did they end up with variable principle mortgages? Looks like they didn't twist the thumbscrews on the stocks when they had their banksters in them?

8% unemployment in Iceland? Let me describe the economy of the community where I live in here in the USA. It is a conservative farm community that was in transition to a second home and resort area. Lots that sold for $200,000 now remain unsold for $28,000, and there are thousands of them on the market. Huntsman Springs, (yes, that John Huntsman's sons) is a 200 million dollar golf course development so desperate for sales that they offer to buy back their million dollar condos at full purchase price anytime for ten years if you will just take them off their hands now.

Existing home prices are down 40-50% and there are no buyers. Full time jobs in the county have been reduced by 40%, and median salaries cut by at least 40%. In the absence of out-migration, real unemployment would also be over 40%.

Across a 8,500′ mountain pass lies the richest county in the US where ordinary lots still sell for 2.5 million each and billionaires outnumber millionaires. The unemployment rate is under 4%, but the average wage rate is $11.00 per hour, manicuring the lawns and waiting tables for the ultra wealthy. Not much left for food for the family after you pay the cost of commuting two hours every day across a mountain pass swept by two major avalanche paths.

Families that want to hold on to their underwater home do have an option. Since there are no jobs for men, the wife can put the kids in day care and drive over the Pass to her waitress job. (by the way there is no snow plowing at night which adds to the excitement of the night-time commute) The husband can find work in the oil patch or the coal mines 300 miles to the east if he doesn't mind never seeing his family.

Moneta
at 8:51 am This is the same logic as the parents not getting their kids vaccinated. They are just piggybacking on the fact that everyone else is getting it done.

Iceland's default worked because they were the only ones to go this route while all the others printed. Had no one printed, Iceland probably would not be in a very good situation.

I do not think they are out of the woods yet.

nonclassical
at 4:20 pm Yves has long documented the fact banks=Wall $treet are holding that debt, and amounts are secret..for good reason- banks would already be insolvent, as she has exposed often..
Chris
at 10:30 pm I'm having a hard time criticizing this post because it strains my brain, but I'll try nonetheless. A few questions off the top of my head:

1) What is internal devaluation? 2) What in God's name does it have to do with what Rob is talking about? 3) How in the world can you equate Greece with the US? 4) Inflation only affects asset prices? Really? Really???

I really think that you were wrong when you started, you heard Robs argument, which was wrong, and you wrongly thought that he agreed with you and wrongly came to more wrong conclusions based on your wrong premises and your wrong interpretations of Robs wrong argument.

I actually agree with parts of what you say. Your statement in the previous post that incomes will drive the recovery more than GDP is correct, but you'll have to trust me that inflation comes with wage inflation – that's just how it works. Creating a false choice of "internal devaluation" or "credit writedowns" is just nonsense.

nonclassical
at 4:22 pm get rid of the "greek debt" comparison and read Michael Hudson's article on "DEBT DEFLATION", here on NK, and it all makes perfect sense..
Hugh
at 11:59 pm A lot of this seems unnecessarily obtuse. We need both better incomes and more jobs. And as m began the thread, we need redistribution of wealth, that is society's resources, away from the economically destructive rich (1%)back to the more productive 99% of society.
KnotRP
at 12:58 am http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/09/marriner-eccles-on-the-need-to-save-the-rich-from-themselves.html

The full transcript:

http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/docs/meltzer/ecctes33.pdf

The rich need to be saved from themselves, for everyone's good.

KnotRP
at 1:09 am Quote from the transcript:

"Our problem, then, becomes one purely of distribution. This can only be brought about by providing purchasing power sufficiently adequate to enable people to obtain the consumption goods which we, as a nation, are able to produce. The economic system can serve no other purpose and expect to survive"

KnotRP
at 1:19 am Another quote:

"The debt structure has obtained its present astronomical proporttions due to an unbalanced distribution of wealth production as measured in the buying power during our years of prosperity. Too much of the product of labor was diverted into capital goods, and as a result what seemed to be our prosperity was maintained on a basis of abnormal credit both at home and aboard. The time came when we seemed to reach a point of saturation in the credit structure where, generally speaking, additional credit was no longer available, with the result that debtors were forced to curtail their consumption in an effort to create a margin to apply on the reductions of debts. This naturally reduced the demand for goods of all kinds, bringing about what appeared to be overproduction, but what in reality was underconsumption measured in terms of the real world and not the money world. This naturally brought about a falling in prices and unemployment. Unemployment further decreased the consumption of goods, which further increased unemployment, thus bringing about a continuing decline in prices. Earnings began to disappear, requiring economis of all kinds - decreases in wages, salaries, and time of those employed."

I guess Sir Alan and Mr. Bernanke both managed to skip the lecture on the testimony of M. S. Eccles, and still get diplomas, huh?

KnotRP
at 1:22 am More:

"Individuals, corporations, cities, and States can not, of themselves, do anything except play according to the rules of the present money system and make their outgo balance their income, or ultimately 'go broke'".

Ralph Musgrave
at 1:26 am I flatly disagree with the idea put by Edward Harrison that "a collective debt reduction across a wide swathe of countries" will "lower incomes and GDP".

It is phenomenally easy to reduce national debts. Step 1: print money and buy back such debts (i.e. carry on with QE). That on its own would doubtless be too stimulatory and inflationary. So (roll of drums) implement a policy which is deflationary AND which gives governments even more money with which to buy back debt. And that is . . . . raise taxes and/or cut public spending.

As long as the inflationary effect of step 1 equals the deflationary effect of step 2, the net effect is NEUTRAL. That is, there is NO EFFECT on total numbers employed, GDP, etc etc. For more details, see:

http://www.progressive-economics.ca/2011/10/11/ralph-musgrave-debt-excitement/

KnotRP
at 1:33 am On page 709 of the testimony:

"We must correct the causes of the depression rather than deal with the effects of it, if we expect recovery with its attendant confidence and budget balancing. This can only be accomplished by government action tending to raise the price level of raw products and increasing employment, thus bringing about an increased demand for consumers' goods".

Unfortunately, Ben is only raising raw product price levels….employment cures remain out of his reach, in our global economy. Rising raw product prices without increasing employment just speeds up the death spiral.

KnotRP
at 1:41 am More:

"…and consequently there is a great demand for the inflation of our currency, the remonetization of silver, or the reduction of the gold content in the dollar, with the idea that any one of these three methods would increas our volume of money and thus raise prices, relieving debtors and bringing about prosperity. None of these three, in my opinion, would accomplish the results desired unless a method would be provided for getting the increased supply of money to the ultimate consumer".

I think Ben must've nodded off and missed the last sentence.

joebhed
at 8:29 am Thanks for these many relevant quotes, but keying on this phrase here… "…unless you start the purchasing power at the source with the consumer".

This is an incredible proof of what is needed, and ought to occupy this discussion entirely.

Bernanke acts as if we can jump-start the economy by putting Trillions into the banks' excess reserves – thus foolishly pushing on the economic string.

For an updated critique of Fed monetary policy under the debt-based system of money, please see our YT vid on 'Bernanke's Monetary Impotence'. http://www.youtube.com/user/EconomicStability#p/u/15/Zliv3USGysM

The only real solution to implement the suggestion contained there – that of directly getting purchasing power to the consumer – is that 'situationally' adopted by most MMT advocates – the direct spending by the government of the additional monies into the economy – so that it lands at M1, maybe gets velocity above 1:1 , and creates aggregate demand.

However, the real solution is to restore fully the monetary sovereignty of the nation and issue ALL money without debt, followed by bank lending of real money. That is exactly what the Kucinich NEED Act of 2011 (HR 2990) does. http://kucinich.house.gov/UploadedFiles/NEED_Act_FINAL_112th.pdf

For the Money System Common

Jerrydenim
at 10:03 am Loving your comments on this thread Joebhed! I've been preaching the monetary reform gospel for years now. If only we could break through to the Ron Paul gold bugs we would have enough citizens on board to start effectively advocating for reform. Maybe somewhere down the line abolishing the privatized debt-based money system could become the central thrust of the OWS movement. There's a impromptu altar set up in Zuccotti park for people to meditate, pray, etc where people have been leaving little votives and offerings. It struck me as the tragic irony of ironies, and bothered me to no end that some people are leaving Federal Reserve Notes on the altar! How tragic that some who care enough to protest greed, inequality, corruption etc. are so blind to think it appropriate to leave the filthy paper notes of our collective oppressor in a sacred place of protest against that very same dark force?

We must do more to get the word out.

F. Beard
at 10:54 am If only we could break through to the Ron Paul gold bugs Jerrydenim

That's easily done. Agree with them that anything can be used for private debts – gold, silver, common stock, store coupons, futures contracts, etc.

However for government debts – taxes and fees – inexpensive fiat is the ONLY ethical money form. That's non-negotiable since anything else is fascist privilege for someone's favourite shiny metal or other money form.

joebhed

at 10:54 pm A lot of Paulistas are mad as hell about the private monopoly's privilege of creating purchasing power out of nothing and collecting interest if paid, and collateral if not. They honestly believe that those in government understand this relationship and support it. I do not know three people in Congress who actually understand fractional-reserve banking, but they all know from where their money comes. Unfortunately, most of the Paulists believe that a switch to gold backing would actually add stability to the currency and reduce government growth and debt.

I don't agree with Henry Ford. I think the American people need to understand the money and banking system completely. Because I believe we need a revolution in the morning. For the Money System Common.

F. Beard

at 11:08 pm the private monopoly's privilege of creating purchasing power out of nothing joebhed

The temporary money, so-called "credit", is created out of nothing but the purchasing power is stolen from all other money holders. The taking of purchasing power (at least temporarily) is inevitable when new money is created which is why the current money owners should be allowed to vote on new issue. Common stock as money fulfils that ethical requirement; bank credit does not.

KnotRP

at 1:44 am same quote continues:

"It does not make any difference what kind of inflation, if the inflation is adopted - you can print money, you can remonetize silver, you can reduce the gold content of the dollar and it is not going to raise your price level unless you start the purchasing power at the source with the consumer".

Consumers….Bankers…..what's the difference….lets just give it all to the bankers….it's easier.

KnotRP
at 1:48 am "Senator Gore: And in 1929 the turnover [monetary velocity] was 45 times? Mr. Eccles: Yes. Senator Gore: But in New York City the turnover was over 150 times."

They note, in the discussion, that turnover dropped from the "norm" of 26-32 times per year, and the high of 45, down to 16 by the last quarter of 1932, and was still dropping.

KnotRP
at 1:50 am Senator Gore: But currency alone is about 25 or 30 per cent more. Mr. Eccles: Yes; but it is not working.
KnotRP
at 1:57 am More: (sorry, but this is fascinating….)

"Several factors to-day stand in the way of increasing our money velocity. I repeat there is plenty of money to-day to bring about a restoration of prices, but the chief trouble is that it is in the wrong place; it is concerntrated in the larger financial centers of the country, the creditor sections, leaving a great portion of the back country, or debtor sections, drained dry and making it appear that there is a great shortage of money and that it is, therefor, necessary for the Government to print more. This maldistribution of our money supply is the result of the relationship between debtor and creditor sections - just the same as the relation between this as a creditor nation and another nation as a debtor nation - and the development of our industries into vast systems concentrated in the larger centers. During the period of the depression the creditor sections have acted on our system like a great suction pump, drawing a large portion of the available income and deposits in payment of interests, debts, insurance and dividends as well as in the transfer of balances by the larger corporations normally carried throughout the country."

KnotRP
at 2:03 am "Point No 1. Unemployment relief. …..(plan laid out, worthwhile to read itself, but ends with the following)…..We shall either adopt a plan which will meet this situation under capitalism, or a plan will be adopted for us which will operate without capitalism".
KnotRP
at 2:07 am Senator Gore: Where does the Federal Government get this money to give [ed: gift] to the States. Mr. Eccles: Where did it get $27,000,000,000 during the war to waste? Senator Gore: A very different situation

So this was all in 1933, and it still went on until WWII, despite such clear and thoughful testimony….and all we have now is knuckleheads….we're screwed.

Calgacus
at 8:35 pm Aaaargh. "Gift" is a weird, recent neologism up with which I will not put. "Give" here is still standard written & spoken English.

and all we have now is knuckleheads Yup. You can't overestimate the insanity & stupidity of the last 4 decades of economic "thought" & politics. MMT/PostKeynesians & other practitioners of non-insane economics have a ways to go to get the general level of understanding of economics back to the level of the 40 years after 1933. Or even before. Around 1920, "loans create deposits", say was the standard, mainstream, belief.

KnotRP
at 5:49 am Eccles used the term "gift" elswhere in the testimony, to distinguish it from "loan"….apparently "give" left room for interpretation in the Senators' minds….
KnotRP
at 2:16 am The testimony spirals into an argument with the Senators about the practical problems with directing so much money at the targets Eccles desires….all the usual corruption/skimming concerns. No wonder it's called the Great Depression now…we lacked the will to do the only thing that would actually work….cut every citizen a check each month until price levels and employment returned to stable levels. Not. Gonna. Happen. GDII.
KnotRP
at 2:35 am Senator Walsh: When do you think prosperity will come back? Mr. Eccles: It depends entirely on what the Government does. It will not come back unless action is taken by the Federal Government, in my judgement. Senator Walsh: Do you think there is anything to the claim that this period now is more or less a period of normalcy? Mr. Eccles: No; we cannot stay at this level. If you can not raise the price structure [edit: and also grow employment through direct action, as he mentioned earlier] you will go into a condition of collapse and you will get into a chaotic condition far worse than we are in to-day. Senator Walsh: We have been slipping for three and a half years. When is the slipping going to stop? Mr. Eccles: I have said when the Government takes the necessary action to stop it. Senator Wlash: In other words, we have done nothing in the last three and a half years to stop this? Mr. Eccles: I think not. Senator Gore: All our efforts have come to naught? Mr. Eccles: That is what I think. I think nothing has been done except to extend credit, and credit is the second line of defense and not a primary line of defense.
KnotRP
at 2:39 am "….we have destroyed the ability to buy at the source through the operation of our capitalistic system, which has brought about such a maldistribution of wealth production that it has gravitated and gravitated into the hands of - well, comparatively few. Maybe several millions of people. We have still got the unemployment and have got no buying power as a result"
KnotRP
at 3:08 am Senator Gore: Let me ask you this. I do not mean for you to dilate on it. But you say our credit structure is in danger. And I think it is. I think our mischief results largely from overstraining credit. Your proposals seem to be that for the excessive use of credit we use more credit. Is that not true? Mr. Eccles: No; that is not true. Senator Gore: It seems like every scheme you suggest was for the Government to advance money to somebody. Mr. Eccles: You have got to take care of the unemployed or you are going to have a revolution in this country. …….. Mr. Eccles: When you get enough unemployed they will control the Government and change our present political, social, and economic system. Senator Gore: There is the trouble And that is the danger here. They brough pressure to bear in the House to get tabacco, butter-fat, and goobers included in this domestic allotment. you get enough unemployed in this country organized and there are no brakes you can put on your scheme. That is the history of Rome. The dole destroyed Rome. It is going to destroy England and France and Germany and this country. The Chairman (Reed Smoot): We thank you for your statement, Mr. Eccles.

So….we can't be having a dole, so all that remains as an outlet is social disruption, followed by war.

KnotRP
at 3:17 am Of course, Mr. Eccles wasn't suggesting a dole at all. He was suggesting the government become the employer of last resort and deploy the productive capacity on necessary production and services in exchange for pay, to prime the economy, instead of doling out money to unemployed wasted resources as they sit around picking navel lint.
Maju
at 6:00 am You don't need to go into debt to print money: you just print it by decree. Forcing the state to accept debt in order to print the money that the economy needs is a nefarious devaluation of the sovereign power of the state, one that harms the economy.

As long as you do not devalue so much that others do not accept it, the state can print all the money the national economy (or, in the US case, the imperial economy) needs.

There's a problem if all countries devalue simultaneously but, even in that case, the injection of money into consumers' pockets (via salaries and welfare, not via lending to banks as the central banks do) should dynamize the economy.

joebhed
at 8:36 am Awesomely correct. And here is exactly how to do that. http://kucinich.house.gov/UploadedFiles/NEED_Act_FINAL_112th.pdf

And as contained in the Mission Statement of the "Monetative" movement throughout Europe today. http://www.monetative.de/?page_id=71

Taking money-creation back into public hands.

The times, they are, indeed, a-changin'. For the Money System Common.

Philip Pilkington
at 7:31 am Yes. Other reasons internal devaluation won't work:

From Chapter 19 of Keynes: If you reduce wages et all, then tax revenues will fall further exacerbating public debt-to-GDP ratios (because income taxes and VATs will fall). If the object is to bring these public debt-to-GDP ratios down this is a paradoxical strategy.

From a conversation between me and Rob (!): We must assume quite a lot of price stickiness in consumption driven economies like Ireland etc. Businesses will defend prices even at the expense of layoffs. So, when (if?) wages fall the price stickiness will lead to pro-cyclical effects (more unemployment, lower wages etc.). Hence: downward spiral.

jake chase
at 7:43 am If the authorities are interested in solving demand stagnation the solution is quite simple. A one time distribution of $50-100k per US adult. This would get the debt carrousel moving again with minimum inequity.

If this sounds ridiculous, imagine that they have already distributed $23 trillion to the banks and the top .002 of the population without any effect except to make everything worse.

ArkansasAngie
at 7:44 am Then you have the case of the globals. They don't care about no stinkin sovereign this, that, or the other. Especially since the central banks are using them as their macro locks and dams.
Moneta
at 8:43 am There is income inequality in the US but it also exists at the global level.

I don't see more equality coming to America unless we see huge changes. What I see is more equality across the planet… i.e. engineering wages in China and other emerging markets jumping up to match those in developed markets. And the more debt America sells to foreigners, the bigger chance this will happen, unless it defaults on its obligations.

And if America truly fights this global phenomenon by becoming protectionist, inflation will be huge.

JP Hochbaum
at 8:52 am Considering we have the unlimited capacity to pay off sovereign debt, I fail to see how we could ever have a soveriegn debt crisis.

Devaluing our currency is a decent policy choice because it makes our debt cheaper to pay off and will increase our exports, which will increase wages and jobs here.

Moneta
at 1:13 pm The issue is that since the US has the reserve currency, most countries are set to export. Every time the US dollar wekens, they will also devalue making it hard for the US to export.

Furthermore, since their economies are built around exports, it will take some time before they can purchase US exports.

In my mind the US will be able to increase exports only id they lose the reserve currency status or if emerging makets gain important purchasing power which will only increase the fight for resource domination.

The force behind the status quo is huge.

Paul Tioxon
at 10:33 am While the Fed sped into action to prevent asset price deflation, wage deflation has gone on, unabated. During the landmark New Deal legislation, minimum wage levels were established. While seemingly idealistic or progressive at face value, they also serve to protect the higher wage paying industrialists of the era and spread enough money, in the form of a floor on wages, that would guarantee a predictable level of demand.

However, the main beneficiaries of the new wage mandates, were Southern industrial workers, not agricultural workers and share croppers who were waived, to this day, from minimum wage legislation. By setting a wage floor that was already well established in the North, it raised the much lower levels of wages and income primarily in the South. This created a national labor market where there was a level playing field and Northern industries did not have to fear for being undercut by low cost Southern competition.

The main point is, increasing wages and income was as much a priority as stabilizing collapsing farm produce prices. Corporations around the world, taking advantage of this crisis as a good time to discipline the work force, suppress wage demands and even lower compensation or get rid of high cost older workers and replace them with cheaper, new, younger hires, who don't remember the higher wages and benefits, is all contributing to the squeeze on economic recovery.

You can't stabilize asset prices, and collapsing commodity prices without commensurate stabilization of salaries, wages and benefits. If prices stay the same, and wages go down, it is inflation by another name, it produces the same result, the erosion of purchasing power. Prices and wages are in relation to one another. You can't work to save one and work to destroy the other and expect anything but disastrous consequences.

No Know
at 11:28 am "You can't work to save one and work to destroy the other and expect anything but disastrous consequences."

IMHO, you have summarized precisely why we are where we are!

KnotRP
at 11:30 am minimum wage requirements are not equivalent to deploying the unemployed in public works projects for pay. The first only says "IF I hire you, I have to pay you X"…that's a big IF.

We have water issues (crumbling dikes, floods, droughts, power generation), we have power issues (old distribution plant, R&D on new energy production methods, power consumptive home equipment), we have transportation problems (the 99 percent commutes from the area they can afford to buy a home in, to the more expensive area where their jobs are). Plenty of useful targets from which to pick a big (moon in 10 years) fish to fry….with subsequent benefits to our nation.

Too bad we're a bunch of dumbasses with 2 second attention spans….we can't do anything that requires organization and persistence beyond one business quarter or election cycle, unless our lives are directly threatened. I guess we'll have to wait for that…

reslez
at 7:20 pm Too bad we're a bunch of dumbasses with 2 second attention spans….we can't do anything that requires organization and persistence beyond one business quarter or election cycle, unless our lives are directly threatened. I guess we'll have to wait for that…

To quote Lambert Strether, who's "we"? The 99% see the problems and want them fixed. It's the 1% who stymie everything so they can loot.

KnotRP

at 6:00 am The looting has been going on for a while (literally years), and "we" (royal) haven't managed to do much as a population, until recently…..and yet the looting actually continues unabated even today. But lives are being deconstructed by the "suction pump" (to quote the Eccles Testimony), so I expect after many years of the 99% sleeping though this (as long as free credit was available) that enough people's lives have become threatened to bring this to a boil…
decora
at 11:14 pm well according to some people, the Commodities Index Funds and the electronic 'dark market' of commodities trading have caused mass inflation in food and fuel. (and indirectly the food riots of 2008, and the melamine baby milk scandal in China)

sooo how you gonna deal with that? the New Deal hired a big crook to go after the other big crooks, but now who do we have?

Obama can assassinate American citizens without trial, but if he tries to break up a bank his own aides disobey his direct orders and others call him a communist

(nevermind Bush's direct question to Paulson, about how it came to pass that a company could get so big its failure would take down the whole system. I guess that makes Bush a commie too. but i digress. )

Heron
at 12:04 pm So, if I'm reading you right, doesn't your theory suggest that a more successful strategy would require something like, say, Central governments paying off citizen debt to private industry? Or is it less a direct debt issue, and more a "we need higher wages to service debt" issue?
VietnamVet
at 12:45 pm Excellent Comments.

Several posts mentioned "Price Stickiness". What is really sticky is the wealthy holding on to their assets. Two steps are needed: 1) The wealthy have to take a haircut on their bad debt and casino bets. No more taxpayer bailouts. 2) Government has to hire workers until unemployment reaches 6%. Simple. The alternative is the Second American Revolution.

No Know
at 8:42 pm You're on the right track Vet. As a fellow Vietnam Vet (11 Bravo), we both know how to solve the problem that baffles all of the econ geniuses out there - pay every body with MPC like we got paid. No banks, no debt…just good old spendable cash for our fine services. Might have to make the printing presses work a little harder because I doubt anyone would even show up for what they paid us (and that included combat pay!). Either way, I think you nailed what the alternative scenario will be.

[Feb 19, 2011] Goods vs Services: A Tale of Two Inflations By Barry Ritholtz

February 18, 2011

Today's must read MSM piece is the WSJ discussion of Inflation:

"The pace of consumer price increases in the U.S. is quickening after being dormant for months. But a tug of war between the prices of goods and the prices of services, playing out beneath the surface, could keep inflation from becoming the worry it is in China, Europe and many emerging markets."

Prices rose 1.6% in January 2011 vs 2010 - the biggest increase in eight months. The key has been commodities - gasoline, cotton, wheat, coffee, and oil are all higher.

Labor, on the other hand is not. Wages are flat, unemployment is stubbornly high, and hence, prices for Services are flat to lower. That is keeping a lid on inflation.

Hence, the dueling deflation versus hyper-inflation commentaries:

"Soaring commodities costs world-wide are pushing up prices for many goods, while a slowly recuperating U.S. economy, soft housing market and a persistently high unemployment rate are holding down prices for U.S. services.

Goods prices were up 2.2% from a year earlier, paced by jumps in food and energy prices, according to the Labor Department's January consumer-price index, and are rising faster than they did before the recession. But services prices were up only 1.2% from a year earlier, far below the 3.4% inflation rate registered for services between 2000 and 2008.

The opposing pull of prices for goods and services could have a big effect on the course of U.S. inflation. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke is betting that rising prices for goods like gas and food will not spread into the broader economy. He and many private forecasters do not expect the U.S. to see the kind of rising inflation now plaguing China, India and other parts of the world.

Goods inflation has outstripped services inflation for long stretches since mid-2007, something that hadn't happened since the 1970s. For most of the last 30 years, goods prices had been held down, in part, by cheap imports from low-wage countries like China. But recently, China and other developing markets have become huge consumers of commodities, which is putting upward pressure on American prices for many globally traded goods."

Well worth reading in its entirety.

Ted Kavadas:

RE: 1. Equity markets power higher still…

By a variety of measures the strength of this stock market rally is historically unique. While I think it will go higher still, it appears to be entering the "parabolic" stage with accompanying dynamics.

Of great importance is whether the stock market has become an asset bubble, which would have vast future implications. I am of the belief that the stock market is in a bubble, albeit one that may not appear clearly obvious.

A while back I wrote of the dynamics of "bubble investing", which I think is highly relevant now… here is the post for those interested:

http://economicgreenfield.blogspot.com/2010/05/bubble-investing.html

curbyourrisk

9:06 am Maybe we should finally give in and re-define inflation to what it actually is. Inflation is not rising money supply, it is rising wages. What we are currently going through has nothing to do with rising wages and in the long run is NOT SUSTAINABLE. So, here is my definition of inflation: Sustained rising prices brought about by rising wages which are produced by the consumers bothi WILLINGNESS and ABILITY to pay.

What we are seeing now is not INFLATION, but price spikes brought about by speculation. There are no supply and demand issues that are currently being created by production needs. When 60% of all demand for copper is by hedge funds, where is the Demand in that????? I am sorry, I call bullshit on the inflation arguement. Yes, the price increases are killing us…..we are even deciding what to buy, what we need vs. what we want. If you want to talk about inflation, go back and look at 1995-2005. That was true inflation, but no one cared because everyone thought they were doing better. No one saw rising wages, but we had redefined wages as we mistook wealth for wages. Everyone started measuring their income based on "expected" growth in assets, mostly housing assets. Everyone SPENT like they were future millionaires. No one cared that the prices of houses went up FOR NO GODDAM REASON, no one cared that the price of cars doubled, no one cared that asset prices went up and everyone needed to have a better car in their drive way. Everyone needed to have 5 flat screens. No one cared and everyone was willing, and assumed they were able topay higher prices. That is inflation.

Trust me…..when these bubbles pop we will see where pricing should be. I predict somewhere about 40% lower than where things are now. Even the correction will probably not be brought about by supply and demand, it will be brought about by margin calls as people race to get out of trades before they lose money. No one seems to remember as far back as 2008. Yeah I know, "It's differnet this time"

No its not. Its the same shit, same people, same game.

b_thunder Says

9:07 am Yes, 80% of the wage earners and most people on fixed income are getting screwed. no wage increases, no COLA increases, no interest on your savings. WSJ correctly poins out that this is not 1970s, the wages will not keep up with inflation. At the same time, Obummer touts his "double the exports" theme, and the Helicopter Ben is 100% lock-step with the administration. The easiest way to achieve 50% gain in exports is, by the way, to devalue the USD by 50%. And Ben is hard at work to accomplish exactly that.

This is an attack on the middle class from 2 fronts. Will people continue sit on their a$$es or will we have our own "Egypt" moment? Or will the GOP sweep 2012 elections and finish what Reagan and GW Bush started, i.e. deregulation, tax cuts for millionaires, union busting and privatization of social security – in other words the extermination of the middle class?

I'm with Hugh Hendrey – he recommends that you panic.

mark
9:16 am So what's one to do? Send the PIIGS to the slaughterhouse:

Bini Smaghi Says ECB May Raise Rates on Price Risks

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a._5HAC.lajY&pos=1

where do they get these people?

rktbrkr
9:17 am No inflation in services even though medical services are probably up double digits. The artificial calculation of rents distorts the core index too.

mark
9:28 am @rktbrkr

1. If one strips out owner equivalent rent the result is a number little different from all the other measures of core inflation. 2. Higher demand is causing rents to begin to rise and this is also being captured in the reported inflation numbers as one would expect.

mark
9:48 am This seems like a reasonable attempt to get at the issue of the influence of housing on recent official measures of underlying inflation pressure

http://dmarron.com/2010/11/28/is-housing-messing-up-inflation-measures-yes-but/

ZenRazor
9:54 am Wage increases in the countries that make a lot of the stuff that Americans buy are running at 5% to 15% (I've seen estimates for China's major cities between 7% and 10% for 2011). Companies in these markets don't have the margins to absorb these increases and will need to pass price increases through.

While it is convenient to blame speculators for commodity price increases, rising prices in commodities that are not so easy to speculate in (e.g., coal, iron ore, potash) have generally been trending higher for the last few quarters. Asia is the marginal bulk buyer for many agricultural commodities and basic materials. If Asia has severe inflation, it may be unduly optimistic to think that we can avoid some derivative of their problem.

SivBum
9:55 am curbyourrisk is right on…

Just this morning, the Bloomberg talking heads continue to press on that material cost amounts to 15% of goods while 50% of COG is labor with the rest marketing, sales and below the line blah-blahs.

Well, news to the pundits is that the cost of material is fixed (except when they replace 24oz loafs for 20oz loafs, 11oz Fritos for 14oz bags etc).

So is the food and gas costs for middle class households.

curbyourrisk
10:06 am SivBum: Becareful. Anyone who agrees with me on here is usually lambasted by a few of the everyday commentors.

Irwin Fletcher Says

10:14 am I have never understood why gas and food prices are excluded from inflation calculations. Can someone explain this to me?

Sechel
10:23 am Great piece! But I do wonder with the globalization of the world economy, how does a soft labor market keep the price down of a product that could just as easily be sold to a non-American as an American consumer(With all due consideration to shipping costs, etc)

epupo
10:25 am "I have never understood why gas and food prices are excluded from inflation calculations. Can someone explain this to me?"

Long story short, the prices of gas and food were considered extremely volatile in the 1970′s and they decided to change the methodology in the late 70′s to account for this.

General opinion is they did this to "mask" the true inflationary picture. I.E. if you dont like the result, change the equation.

cswake
10:27 am Irwin, official explanation for the removal of food and energy have to do with their volatility and screwing up future inflation forecasts for policy decisions.
epupo
10:27 am Great article, but then the bigger problem is

If wages are stagnant, but the prices of goods and services are rising, how in the heck is this good for the economy? Where does the consumer find the money to save and invest?

I can understand consumers spending; they may fear their stagnant wages and weakening dollar wont be enough to buy the rising prices of goods and services, but I cant see how this type of policy helps consumers bottom lines or company profit margins

curbyourrisk
10:32 am Irwin: despite what cswake said, "Irwin, official explanation for the removal of food and energy have to do with their volatility and screwing up future inflation forecasts for policy decisions."

The real answer is so they can always control everything. They need to be able to control the cost of living increases that are required in government spending. THey could never be able to afford the increases if they actually included what people pay in order to live. They manipulate the rent input accordingly….minimize the effect in boom times and multiply the effect in decling asset periods. It is a ll a game, a rigged game. YOU WILL ALWAYS lose. Don;t try to understnd it, by time you do they change the rules again.

curbyourrisk
10:33 am By the way…the claim of stagnant wages is not really ture. They are declining and have been for 10 years. On top of that, our wages buy less and we are alos paying LOTS more into the system further reducing our real wage.

I wish we could all earn Wall Street salaries, but then again…that is when we would have to deal with REAL inflation.

epupo
10:38 am Barry I am surprised you didnt also mention the WSJ editorial today on "deflation"

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704657704576150501497853690.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_AboveLEFTTop#articleTabs%3Darticle

Even they took a shot at Bernanke – I hadn't seen that coming

"Once again the Fed seems to have worried about deflation long after the threat had passed and even as price pressures from its easier policy were preparing to build. Let's hope it turns out better than it did the last time."

~~~

BR: I am surprised you are surprised.

I prefer reality based data to the dementia of those drunken blatherings.

Robespierre
10:43 am "Prices rose 1.6% in January 2011 vs 2010 - the biggest increase in eight months. The key has been commodities - gasoline, cotton, wheat, coffee, and oil are all higher."

"Labor, on the other hand is not. Wages are flat, unemployment is stubbornly high, and hence, prices for Services are flat to lower"

"Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke is betting that rising prices for goods like gas and food will not spread into the broader economy."

So to summarize: Things that the poor and middle class must buy: Food and Gas are all increasing in price at a very fast pace. At the same time their wages (the money they need to pay for those things) is stagnant.

Therefore, according to Bernanke all is well. The amount of BS spread around by the "experts" has reached biblical proportions. In the mean time our communist president has decided to eliminate poverty by well killing the poor (reduction of electricity subsides for the poor). Very soon between food inflation + freezing temperatures we will be able to reduce the number of poor people leaching from us taxpayers. Wasn't that called in the past "the final solution?"

ironman
10:52 am Speaking of inflation expectations:

… There's another angle to consider as well. If the U.S. Federal Reserve is indeed using stock prices to assess how well their Quantitative Easing 2.0 program is going in setting future inflation expectations, stock prices running hot as they are today would be a signal to them that they need to take their foot of the QE pedal.

That may also have a negative effect on stock prices in the current economic situation, especially if future inflation expectations fall as they did in the interval between the Fed's QE 1.0 program and the current QE 2.0 program to near deflationary levels.

Unless, that is, they've finally been successful in convincing everyone that inflation is here to stay.

the bohemian Says

11:13 am there appears to be a lot of inflation in silver lately- lol
How the Common Man Sees It Says
11:15 am ….and God gave them over to reprobate minds….

Greg0658
11:44 am Robespierre – points taken – but Hope must prevail starvation will push the mother of invention for the masters to capture and propel growth or age old mechanisms take over ie destroy then things must be rebuilt with current techs I Hope NOT
ashpelham2
11:47 am Once again, everyone here seems to "get it", while the people on the street walking past us, heading to their TV's at home to watch TMZ just seem to want to bury their heads in the sand about. Had a lunch with a very wealthy couple yesterday in Huntsville, AL, who are looking to invest some money with me and perhaps allow me to broker their retirement plan at the company they own as well. Their thoughts on where all of this is headed were DEAD ON to what I said on here a couple of days ago: this isn't some bubble or short-term event. America is going through a seminal change right now, from the ONLY world power to less of a player. We are becoming not the market maker, but more of a participant in the market now. We don't get to call the shots; we work with the rest of the world in lockstep, and we suffer when they suffer.

This is globalization. Of course America isn't going to benefit financially from this. We were at one time, a very short time ago, at the top of the food chain. Everyone else in the world saw us as the enemy and the milk-teet, at once. Globalization means bringing down our standard of living in line with the teeming billions of starving people...

Except they still hate us, still call us zionists, and still want our money. Who's winning this thing?

anonymous
12:00 pm "Had a lunch with a very wealthy couple yesterday in Huntsville, AL, who are looking to invest some money with me and perhaps allow me to broker their retirement plan at the company they own as well. Their thoughts on where all of this is headed were DEAD ON to what I said on here a couple of days ago"

so…I have to ask . . .based on what you said- what is their investment plan?

precious metals, farmland?

wunsacon
12:02 pm Since the internet meant knowledge work could (in theory) be done anywhere, my investment thesis since 2000 has been "short American labor, long everything else".

How the Common Man Sees It Says

12:10 pm This is globalization. Of course America isn't going to benefit financially from this.

===================================

The power brokers will. I guess that is the point that John Q. Public hasn't clued into yet.

…or maybe they are waiting for tangible evidence to surface

rip
1:36 pm What is going on right now is virtually identical to what happened during the "Great Depression".

Then, people with money were living the good life. Those without were having to compete with all the others for table scraps.

Today, why hire someone for $8/ hr with benefits when you can hire someone for $7 and no benefits?

Outside of that, the choice of words: depression, recession, recovery, wage stagnation, GDP growth, are pretty much irrelevant to what's going on.

The rich elites are feeling the wind at their backs and seeking the final conclusion of making labor and services cheaper for them than ever before.

And their government servants are working mightily to renege on all the promises made, and pension contributions promised.

The bloom is off the rose.

The Curmudgeon Says

2:28 pm This is sort of a dog bites man story. Of course there's inflation. That's what Bernanke and Co. have been aiming for, and like he says, he can print as many dollars as he likes.

What people also don't get is that Bernanke and Co know full well that the best means of lowering the unemployment rate is lowering the cost of labor, i.e., reducing the wage rate. Guess what happens when "goods" increase in price and "services" don't? The cost of labor/wage rates goes down as relative matter, thereby juicing employment rates. They can't say that this is their strategy, but they fully well understand that lowering wage rates can be accomplished through outright cuts or through inflation. They are betting that people are too stupid to understand that if their wages stay the same yet everything else gets more expensive, then their wages, and thereby standard of living, have declined.

Lower real wage rates will result in higher employment rates. That's their aim. It seems to be working, and without the political fallout that would result if nominal wage rates declined.

highside
2:54 pm I am surprised that people are surprised by all this but I guess it is easy to forget the global context when one is unemployed .

Something around 2bn people have genuinely entered the global work force in the last 15 years and they have done so at wage rates far below those existing in the developed world. Furthermore these new entrants have a very high savings rate. Real wages need to fall significantly to for demand for labour in the developed world to return to historic levels where that labour competes with the emerging labour. In the absence of government policy broadly one would expect very very high unemployment in these areas to lead to falling wage rates in the developed world, significant compensation should come from large falls in the price of goods and services. However nominal wages are notoriously sticky and declines have a tendency to lead to social unrest so governments inevitable try to generate inflation so that real wages fall whilst nominal wages at worst remain stable. Unfortunately this denies people the benefits of the falling prices in goods and services. People are notoriously subject to money illusion.

Of course one problem in the background is whilst we in the West talk about deficient demand and the need to pump up spending it probably fair to say that on a global basis a greater percentage of the worlds population is in productive employment than at any other time in modern history its just that for the first time we are the ones who are not competitive in a wide range of industries.

These are of course broad generalisations, I am well aware there are many areas where the West has leading positions and skills, although this is not that much compensation to those not exposed to those areas.

Robespierre
3:56 pm @The Curmudgeon Says

"Lower real wage rates will result in higher employment rates."

Sure that is why underdeveloped countries have such a great rate of employment… Go out of the country much?

Frwip
5:56 pm Is this at long last this ill-defined, quasi-mystical beast they call biflation ?

I was starting to shift my outlook from mild deflation to mild to moderate inflation. But I may be wrong, then.

This biflation would prove that there is no transmission belt from prices to income for inflation to take hold. I can clearly see how this situation can end up affecting credit worthiness (strongly non-linear) then credit creation. Then, hello deflation again. And, given the structure of debt and international trade in the US, I would even start to believe in the possibility of an even more bizarre animal : deflation-depreciation.

Wow. Interesting times, really …

The Curmudgeon Says

6:02 pm "Sure that is why underdeveloped countries have such a great rate of employment… Go out of the country much?"

That is why, exactly as I said, employment rates in developing countries (e.g., China, Brazil, India) are increasing, while employment rates in developed countries are stagnant or in decline–because labor is cheaper there than in developed countries.

Would you like to argue the opposite premise–that employment rates increase in lock-step with wage rates? That the demand curve for labor, but for nothing else in the world, slopes upward"?

Assuming you go abroad often, do you pay any attention to trends when you do? Then you should see the teeming legions of peasants leaving subsistence agriculture for jobs in the cities. That migration represents an increase in the employment rate in case you were unaware.

Robespierre
8:51 pm I guess I didn't elaborated enough. In your comment you implied that to lower employment salaries needed to go lower. If that was the case then it would be Africa the one taking jobs from the US (labor is cheaper there). That is not the case. China took jobs from the US (just like Japan did at its time) because government policies implemented there not just because cheaper labor. The countries that you mention have tow things: Very strong trade barriers and Large populations.

Most companies didn't go there because cheap labor. They went there to address the size of those markets without having to be penalized by the trade barriers that those countries impose. Once there, they realized that production could be shifted and the export the products to USA and Europe. You are wrong if you think that once the workers in the US get paid slave wages production will move back to the US. At this time I get the feeling that the unemployed in the US is being pushed to the said to be soon forgotten. Also, everyone thinks that the world needs the US consumer for the world to prosper. Was there always a US consumer? I think that just like jobs have migrated to other countries so have the addressable market

wally
9:25 pm "prices for Services are flat to lower. That is keeping a lid on inflation"

When the price of food goes up and wages go down an equal amount, that is technically not inflation. That pretty much sums up a lot of things about our present condition.

budhak0n

February 19th, 2011 at 6:38 am This is globalization. Of course America isn't going to benefit financially from this.

That depends upon your definition of "America".

For me, her greatest strength has never been in a strict adherence to some calculated sense of overblown capitalistic priniciples ( although they exist in the heart of the matter) but in her ability to continue to adapt in the face of every overwhelming global wave of change.

The "boomers" are hellbent on their way out to tear down those who they have to hand over their hard fought gains, and thus a short era of the inevitable wailing about how those who come next are not worthy, and shall sink the ship is in order.

Pay no mind. We never have :-)

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It's interesting to watch the Fed try to blow up the inflation bubble at the same time other countries around the world are trying to deflate it. Last night Chile raised interest rates by 25 bps to 3.5%, the highest since Mar '09 and China this morning raised reserve requirements again by 50 bps. The Yuan also appreciated to a new high vs the US$. In their decision, the Chilean central bank said "private inflation expectations are showing increases, particularly in the short term." ECB member Smaghi hinted that they would have to raise interest rates if inflation becomes more...

[Feb 14, 2011] Goldman Sachs Inflation Pressures To Ease In 2011, 2012 - Focus on Funds

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Here's good news for investors in popular bond ETFs such as the iShares Barclays 20+ Year Treasury Bond (TLT) and the Vanguard Total Bond Market ETF (BND).

Goldman Sachs (GS) has a note out this morning forecasting benign inflation this year through 2012.

"In 2011, the perceived risk to US equity prices from inflation vastly overestimates the actual risk, in our view," wrote GS's strategists.

They write:

"Unlike China where home prices continue to surge, most Americans would not use housing and inflation in the same sentence. Housing is critical to the consumer inflation outlook because it accounts for 41% of the basket of goods used to measure headline CPI and 49% of the core CPI. High unemployment means labor inflation pressures are also likely to remain low."

Goldman Sachs is forecasting that:

The report notes that the only significant signs of inflation by a major index has come from the Producer Price Index for crude materials. It shot up by 16% in January from a year ago.

[Jan 16, 2011] The Great Inflation Debate?

January 7, 2011

Stern of Reuters reports:

Worried about inflation? Neither Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke nor all those traders currently dumping gold seem to be, but that may be the best time to make sure you're covered if prices go haywire.

Some people think the combination of an expansive Fed policy and an expansive fiscal policy make that inevitable. Oh, and as I'm writing this, the United Nations is announcing that world food prices are at an all-time high.

The last time consumer prices went crazy, it happened pretty fast: They rose roughly 3 percent in 1971, 6 percent in 1972, and 12 percent in 1973, according to the Labor Department's Consumer Price Index data. Back then, it took almost a decade and a deep recession to get that genie back in the bottle.

"The rapidity with which that ... changes is actually pretty astonishing," says Hans Olsen, chief investment officer for J.P. Morgan Private Wealth Management.

Olsen's clients already have roughly 25 percent of their portfolios in inflation hedging assets. "You want to skate to where the puck will be, not to where it is," he said in a recent interview.

But not everyone thinks inflation is looming, or that typical inflation-fighters, such as gold, are a good place to keep money right now.

"I'm concerned with investors making big bets on gold" and other traditional inflation hedges, says Dave Loeper of Wealthcare Capital Management in Richmond, Virginia.

Loeper, a former adviser to the Virginia Retirement System, recently studied the behavior of anti-inflation assets during inflationary periods. He concluded that the payoffs for hedging inflation might not be worth the extra trading and holding costs.

"Adding gold and real estate to a 60/40 (60 percent stocks, 40 percent bonds) portfolio looks pretty similar to a 50/50 balanced portfolio," he wrote. "Those extra positions... are certain to add cost... and do not appear to be worth much unless we do have that perfect storm" of an unusual and severe double-spike in inflation.

Loeper looked at the most recent three major periods of inflation and observed that there was not one asset class that produced positive real returns in all three periods. Because gold, in particular, has been bid up as a safety plan during recent low-inflation years, he's concerned that it may not perform its typical anti-inflation role when prices rise.

The yes-it's-coming/no-it-isn't debate about inflation can be seen in market prices and consumer expectations, too. Both bond market swaps and inflation-protected securities seem priced with an expectation that prices will rise a modest 1.5 percent or so, says Olsen.

But consumers responding to the Conference Board's last survey had a different view: They expect prices to rise about 5.3 percent in the next 12 months.

So, what's an investor to do? Here are some tips for preparing for a run-up in prices, which may or may not materialize.

* Let some investments do double duty. Loeper and Olsen agree on this: Some investments already in your portfolio might protect against inflation without being strictly anti-inflation plays. For example, if you own a large-cap stock fund, you probably already own shares of Exxon Mobil Corp. or Weyerhaeuser, two traditional inflation-fighters.

Similarly, Olsen's clients own foreign stocks; they'll be some protection if runaway prices hurt the U.S. dollar more than other currencies.

* Go long on items you'll use. Not all investments happen in your brokerage account. If you're a year or two away from buying a new car, lawnmower or retirement house, think about buying now while prices and interest rates are comparatively low. You can stockpile canned goods and paper towels, too, but not to the extent that you end up on A&E TV's reality show, "Hoarders."

* Keep carrying-costs low. There are now many inexpensive exchange-traded funds which focus on commodities and other anti-inflation strategies. Many are available for an annual expense charge well below 0.8 percent.

* Stay safe. You may lose purchasing power, but you won't lose money by buying individual Treasury inflation-protected bonds and holding them to maturity. Yields are low, but guaranteed to rise as the CPI does. The big risk there? If interest rates rise faster than prices, you could find yourself losing ground to better-yielding short-term securities.

Is inflation the real threat going forward? The answer is nobody really knows for sure. Inflation is already present in China and emerging markets, but it has not picked up significantly in the US and Europe. We are likely to see higher energy prices, but even this is not enough to kick start a severe inflationary episode. Only wage inflation can do this, and to compare what is going on now with the 1970s is simply wrong. Despite December job gains, unemployment remains stubbornly high, unions are not as strong as they used to be, and the structure of the global economy has changed significantly in the last three decades.

Demographics, global competition, the internet, deleveraging, are all factors weighing down inflation. It is possible that we start importing inflation, but even this is debatable. Bottom line: the great inflation debate will continue for quite some time, and while you should hedge against all scenarios, be careful not to jump on any inflation bandwagon. Deflation hasn't died; it might just be hibernating.

[Jan 13, 2011] No Such Thing as Cost-Push Inflation; Demographics and the "Demand for Money"

No Such Thing as Cost-Push Inflation

My Austrian-minded friend is correct. I should have been more explicit. However, I did state that the idea of cost-push inflation is "silly" once before in "Money's Already Quite Cheap"

Cost-Push Inflation?

Someone sent me an email stating that I do not understand push-through inflation and that is why I don't understand hyperinflation.

Well for starters hyperinflation is not caused by rising prices, hyperinflation is a loss of faith of currency (typically caused by some political event). The result (not the cause of hyperinflation) is rising prices. For a further discussion of hyperinflation please see "Straight Talk" with Economic Bloggers

Second the whole idea of cost-push inflation is silly. An excerpt from $30 Billion Offer No One Wants - Small Businesses Hit by Deflation will prove it. ...

By the way, there is a subtle error in what "HB" said. Did you catch it?

"Economy-wide , a rise in general prices is only possible if the money supply increases."

An increase in money supply is by far the most likely way there is a general price rise, but it is not the "only" way, even if we assume that "money supply" includes credit.

Prices Affected by the "Demand for Money"

In a general sense, if the demand for money drops for any reason, prices will rise. Conversely, if the demand for money rises for any reason, prices will fall.

The demand for money (the desire to hold on to it vs. consume) can change as consumer preferences change. Demographics is one such reason consumer preferences may change.

For example, someone at retirement age and barely scraping by has a far greater demand for money than a young person at age 30 with a decent job.

Here is another way of phrasing the same thing: A person aged 30 with a good job is far more likely to have high demand for the latest and greatest electronic gadget than someone aged 62 scared half-to-death about running out of money in the near future.

Changing demographics is a very powerful "price deflationary" card at this stage of the game. Indeed, Bernanke is doing his best to counteract the increased demand for money associated with boomer dynamics by pumping up actual money supply.

The result so far has not been the expansion of credit that Bernanke wants, but rather a massive increase in the amount of "excess reserves" held with Fed. (Please see Fictional Reserve Lending for further discussion).

In short, banks have no real desire to lend except to a small pool of creditworthy borrowers who have no desire to borrow.

In the real economy, demand for money is high (as evidenced by unprecedented drops in consumer credit). However, Bernanke (with much help from the Bank of China) did manage to ignite more recklessness in numerous speculative ventures including equities, leveraged buyouts, and commodities.

Thus, the Fed can increase money supply, but it cannot easily dictate where that money goes or even if it goes anywhere at all.

Frugality Revisited

The "Demand for Money" construct forms the basis for many "frugality arguments" I have presented over the years.

It is a topic much in need of discussion and understanding, especially by various inflationistas calling for hyperinflation later this year. The good news is we only have 11 more months to see them proven wrong. The bad news is they will simply bump up their target by a year or two.

Cliff Event In Japan

Meanwhile, Japan is the perfect example of strong demand for money in spite of amazingly low interest rates and in spite of all efforts by the Japanese central bank to cause inflation.

Nonetheless, Japan is at a state in its economy where it has consumed all of its savings and then some just as its retirees need to drawn down on savings that the government spent building bridges to nowhere in foolish attempts to fight deflation.

Please see Japan's Finances "Approaching Edge of Cliff" for details.

As a result of that "cliff event", strongly rising import prices in conjunction with a rapidly falling currency will likely hit Japan before the same thing hits the US.

[Jan 02, 2011] Biflation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Biflation (sometimes mixflation) is a state of the economy where the processes of inflation and deflation occur simultaneously.[1] The term was first introduced by Dr. F. Osborne Brown, a Senior Financial Analyst for the Phoenix Investment Group.[2] During Biflation, there's a rise in the price of commodity/earnings-based assets (inflation) and a simultaneous fall in the price of debt-based assets (deflation).[3]

The price of all assets are based on the demand for them versus the volume of money in circulation to buy them.

With biflation on the one hand, the economy is fueled by an over-abundance of money injected into the economy by central banks. Since most essential commodity-based assets (food, energy, clothing) remain in high demand, the price for them rises due to the increased volume of money chasing them. The increasing costs to purchase these essential assets is the price-inflationary arm of Biflation.[4]

With biflation on the other hand, the economy is tempered by increasing unemployment and decreasing purchasing power. As a result, a greater amount of money is directed toward buying essential items and directed away from buying non-essential items. Debt-based assets (mega-houses, high-end automobiles and stocks) become less essential and increasingly fall into lower demand. As a result, the prices for them fall due to the decreased volume of money chasing them. The decreasing costs to purchase these non-essential assets is the price-deflationary arm of biflation.

Commodity inflation

November 10, 2010 Econbrowser

I guess now we know that the Fed has the tools to prevent deflation.

Recent research by Ke Tang and Wei Xiong documents that the correlation between the price changes of different commodities has been increasing over time. Here for example is the correlation between the changes in oil and copper prices. These two prices were essentially uncorrelated in 2001. Back then, in a week when oil prices went up, the price of copper was just as likely to go up as down. Over the last few years, however, the two prices have been much more likely to move together.

Rolling-window correlation between oil prices and copper prices. Graph plots correlation between (1) change in natural log of dollar price of West Texas Intermediate over previous 5 business days and (2) change in natural log of the dollar price of copper cathodes over previous 5 business days, as estimated from the most recent 200 business days as of each indicated date, Oct 28, 1999 to Nov 5, 2010.

The recent positive correlation of course does not mean that an increase in the price of oil is what's causing the price of copper to go up. Instead, it just signifies that there are some common factors affecting the two markets in a similar way.

Another changing correlation over time is that between commodity prices and the exchange rate. Here for example is the correlation between the weekly change in the dollar price of oil and the weekly change in the number of dollars you'd need to buy one euro. In 2001, the correlation was actually negative for a while, because news of a weakening U.S. economy would cause both the dollar to depreciate and the dollar price of oil to fall. In recent years, however, the correlation is positive and quite strong. In the year ended September 1, a 1% depreciation of the dollar would typically be associated with a 1.3% increase in the dollar price of oil or copper.

Rolling-window correlation between oil prices and exchange rate. Graph plots correlation between (1) change in natural log of dollar price of West Texas Intermediate over previous 5 business days and (2) change in natural log of the dollar/euro exchange rate over previous 5 business days, as estimated from the most recent 200 business days as of each indicated date, Oct 28, 1999 to Nov 5, 2010.

The dollar strengthened against the euro with last spring's sovereign debt concerns, but has slid back dramatically since this summer. My view is that the anticipation of the Fed's latest quantitative easing measures has been a key factor in that slide.

Source: FRED.

It's interesting to look at how big an increase in commodity prices we would have expected given the size of the dollar depreciation and given the size of the recent correlation. It turns out that the recent run-up in oil prices is no mystery, given the magnitude of the dollar depreciation.

Actual and predicted oil prices. Solid line: actual price of West Texas Intermediate (in dollars per barrel), Sep 1, 2010 to Nov 5, 2010. Dashed line: Sept 1 price times exp(1.3 times change in natural logarithm of exchange rate since Sep 1).

Ditto for copper prices. Note that the path for "predicted prices" in these two graphs is identical, since both are driven by the same realized exchange rate path.

Actual and predicted copper prices. Solid line: actual price of copper cathodes (in cents per pound), Sep 1, 2010 to Nov 5, 2010. Dashed line: Sept 1 price times exp(1.3 times change in natural logarithm of exchange rate since Sep 1).

I feel that there is a pretty strong case for interpreting the recent surge in commodity prices as a monetary phenomenon. Now that we know there's a response when the Fed pushes the QE pedal, the question is how far to go.

My view has been that the Fed needs to prevent a repeat of Japan's deflationary experience of the 1990s, but that it also needs to watch commodity prices as an early indicator that it's gone far enough in that objective. In terms of concrete advice, I would worry about the potential for the policy to do more harm than good if it results in the price of oil moving above $90 a barrel.

And we're uncomfortably close to that point already.

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Posted by James Hamilton at November 10, 2010 07:29 AM

Comments

We see the same thing in stock prices - the decline in prices from April 2010 up to September 2010 corresponds is very much correlated with the timing of the end of QE1 (in March-April 2010) with the credible expectation that the Fed would initiate QE 2 beginning at the end of August 2010.

Posted by: Ironman at November 10, 2010 07:43 AM

Professor,

Oil over $90/bbl would be normal considering the current value of our currency. Expect oil in the $90 range before the end of next year and if QE2 is not offset by tax cuts or other supply side policy changes expect oil to be pushing (or above $100 by the end of next year).

Posted by: Ricardo at November 10, 2010 07:59 AM

I suppose this means that you diagree with Prof. Krugman on this question then.

Posted by: tyaresun at November 10, 2010 08:31 AM

tyaresun: Right.

Posted by: JDH at November 10, 2010 08:41 AM

The Fed can "watch commodity prices," but it is unlikely to do anything about them as long as unemployment remains high.

Exit from stimulus requires success in creating sustained real growth. Are you suggesting the Fed might scale back or abandon QE2 at a 9.5% unemployment rate? This seems highly unlikely. How would markets react? I suspect they would be quite upset indeed...

The point is that once Bernanke starts writing editorials extolling the virtues of the wealth effect, he is "on the hook" for the market's direction. Any large decline in stock prices, and ensuing rise in unemployment, would be blamed on a Fed policy "error".

Posted by: David Pearson at November 10, 2010 08:41 AM

JDH: I'm wondering what you think of this research on forex rates and commodity prices in the context of current commodity price run-ups.

http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/1631

I am not sure whether the series are cointegrated or whether there is a causal or merely forecasting effect, but presumably there is some transmission mechanism at work here.

Posted by: Robert Bell at November 10, 2010 08:43 AM

Where does the $90 a barrel comes from? Is it derived from some sort of model on the impact of oil price on consumption or investment?

Posted by: Rafael at November 10, 2010 08:57 AM

Robert Bell: Regardless of whether the series are cointegrated, the correlation between changes over a given fixed time interval is always a well defined concept and is what all of the analysis above uses.

Posted by: JDH at November 10, 2010 08:58 AM

I have never understood the logic behind core CPI as a measure of inflation. It excludes food and fuel from the index because they are volatile.

Isn't that precisely the wrong reason. Shouldn't the most volatile sectors of the economy be the first to feel pressure from inflation?

If I were looking for signs of inflation I would look in food fuel. And there they are. It worries me that Bernanke has not acknowledged their existence.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 10, 2010 09:03 AM

http://bpp.mit.edu/daily-price-indexes/?country=USA

Will Commodity inflation lead to consumer inflation?

I do not think so with still so much private debt in the system.

Posted by: Adam at November 10, 2010 09:07 AM

Check out Billion Prices Project. It is real time data of prices for different countries including USA that are...

Statistics updated every day
-5 million individual items
-70 countries
-Started in October of 2007
-Supermarkets, electronics, apparel, furniture, real estate, and more

http://bpp.mit.edu/

Posted by: Adam at November 10, 2010 09:18 AM

As you can see Ricardo, the fluctuations in the price of oil over the past year (move your cursor over the "1y" button) make your predictions (hunches or calculations) seem a little tame.

No question oil is an important commodity, but I wonder if there aren't others that are overlooked here.
Food prices, (like oil, too volatile to count in the CPI we are told), seem to be moving up and the commodities associated with non-discretionary consumer good?
With inflating (but of course unrecognized) food prices we get declining discretionary spending...so a step over that little deflationary hurdle, "the price will be lower tomorrow, so wait." to "no price will be low enough, so forget it." This splains why I am not shopping for the Bugatti.
Hard to believe that the current compilation, ~1-2% inflation, in an economy that is 70% consumer spending, spending tied to house prices, prices now falling...is tied to reality.
On the ground, it feels (and appears...and sounds and smells) like deflation, you know?
Tis a variant of NoHousingBubbleHere maybe...or maybe the continuing denial.

Posted by: calmo at November 10, 2010 09:19 AM

The FED can indeed generate some extra inflation in the price of scarce resources. What it can't do is trigger inflation in resources that are not scarce: mainly real estate, and labor.

Surely you have to take some interest, James, in the pronounced changes observed in extraction rates for both Copper and Oil the past 10 years. Correlation between price and those rates is both strong, and sustained. Correlation is even further enhanced when one introduces declining resource quality, in particular declining ore grades of copper, and the notable introduction of non-conventional oil into the broader supply of conventional oil.

No question that reflationary policy in the current phase (Q3 2007 - Q3 2010) has enhanced USD denominated prices for commodities. But, how successful would this have been without the geological constraints for both copper and oil which are, by the way, quite well established now in the data.

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Posted by: Gregor Macdonald at November 10, 2010 09:30 AM

If the Fin Mins of of 2nd tier nations make direct purchases of dollars on the forex exchange, as they are threatening to do, this will drive the value of the dollar back up. Consequently, assuming that the oil producers continue to manipulate supply, the price of oil should go back down, and the oil producers have been clear about what they see as a fair price, a price which was at $70. per barrel when the dollar was about 10% (?) higher than it is now.

So, inflation concerns would thereby shift to currency monetization from 2nd tier currencies. Guido Mantega has said that Brazil will do whatever is necessary to keep the real from further appreciation. And similar statements are coming out of Asia daily. It would seem then, that a more interesting question might have to do with whether Bernanke & Co. are planning to spread the reserve currency responsibilities across a wider range of currencies. This because dollars would need to be removed from the global economy to accommodate the influx of reals, wons, bahts, ruppees, yuans and etc.

Posted by: rayllove at November 10, 2010 09:36 AM

Rafael,

Gold is a good proxy for commodity prices. A rule of thumb for oil to gold that has been true for about 100 years is that an ounce of gold will run roughly 15 times a bbl of oil. The ratio right now is about 16:1 because gold has run up faster than oil. Oil demand is also dragging the price down slightly. Demand will not have a lasting effect because the producers will adjust their supply. A gold price of $1,350 in a perfect world would imply an oil price of $90/bbl. Gold is around $1,400 and climbing so there is significant monetary pressure for oil to be above $90/bbl.

Oil at $100 next year is dependent on whether the FED controls the money supply. Indications are that the FED will continue to expand the money supply driving gold toward $1,500 and oil toward $100/bbl.

Posted by: Ricardo at November 10, 2010 10:42 AM

i have to say, in spite of my respect for your erudition, prof. hamilton, i disagree entirely with your conclusion.

that *anticipation* of QE might have fueled a speculative rally which predominantly flows into commodities thanks to reflexivity -- that i think we can agree on.

that QE *itself* is an inflationary phenomena remains totally unevidenced -- to the contrary, observe core inflation readings in the context of QE1 and QE lite, please!

you're taking a speculative leveraged flows into notoriously volatile raw inputs and end-of-the-capital-structure financial instruments and from that construing that a fed measure *that hasn't begun yet* causes inflation? color me bemused.

i think it far closer to the truth to say that the fed plans to exchange some very-cash-like assets out of the private sector and replace them with cash itself. that very minimally alters the character of net private sector financial assets, and should not be expected to do much of anything -- as indeed QE has in the past rarely if ever accomplished much of note outside of a liquidity crisis. if wall street wants to take the anticipation of QE as an excuse to flood speculators with call money, taking advantage of popular misconceptions of what QE is and what it can do to create standard-issue speculative demand for assets, that's another thing entirely.

Posted by: gaius marius at November 10, 2010 10:56 AM

Were you also confident that $150 oil was inflationary? Wages lead inflation. Not speculative bets in markets.

Posted by: MarkS at November 10, 2010 11:04 AM

Adjust commodities prices for the US$, as well as adjust the US$ for the US$- and CPI-adjusted price of gold.

You will find that (1) basis '73, the US$-adjusted CRB Index is near the lows of the past 25-35 years; and (2) since the nominal price bottom in gold in '99 and '01, the US$ has fallen 80%+ in adjusted gold price terms, which is a bit short of the similar decline in the fiat digital debt-money US$ at the nominal gold price peak in '80. A currency depreciation of this scale is about as bad as it gets in relative purchasing power terms to the historic yellow relic.

Moreover, take a look at the trade-weighted broad US$ index, which is trending around par after having been ~30% above par at the early '00s high. There has been, nor will there occur a "US$ crash"; it has already happened, and gold is spectacularly overpriced and levered to the Moon.

Similarly, and not coincidentally, the trade-weighted US$ index of other trading partners is 27-28% above par, or approximately the level below par for the US$ index for major currencies (with the broad index splitting the difference, by definition).

The trade-weighted US$ is above par for countries where US supranational firms are investing tens of billions of US$'s in their subsidiaries and contract producers to produce goods for the US market and intra-Asia and the rest of the world; therefore, trade and capital flows and the demand for US$'s is relatively high versus the Eurozone and Japan where comparative trade flows have fallen over time (Japanese and European auto and parts production having moved to the US, for example).

Moreover, the US firm-induced faster growth of Asia means faster growth of demand for US$-denominated commodities, which require Asian firms and central banks to accumulate US$'s to buy commodities.

Additionally, the massive tens of billions of US$'s invested and deposited in Chinese banks by US firms over the past 10-15 years necessarily requires the PBoC to accumulate US gov't and agency paper against reserves on behalf of supranational US firms that are unable to directly convert US$'s to Yuan to shift US$'s elsewhere throughout Asia, back to the US, or elsewhere.

And given that China's money supply is growing at more than 2 and as much as 3 times real GDP growth, creating the greatest credit and fixed investment bubble to GDP in world history, were the Yuan to be convertible it would be collapsing from the flood gates of credit having been opened by Chinese state-run banks in the past 2-3 years.

Given the virtual GDP PPP, global peak oil production having occurred in '05-'08, and oil consumption and import parity between the three major global trading blocs, the long-term trend is for major fiat currencies to trend around par with one another.

As debt deflation continues and global trade slows inexorably hereafter from structural resource constraints and limit bounds from heavy debt service vs. trend GDP growth rates, the trade-weighted US$ index for major currencies will trend toward par (from 72-73 today), the broad index continue to trend around par, and the other trading partners index will decline to par, with US$ repatriation by large US firms occurring with falling commodities prices coincident with global deflationary recession and stock bear markets.

The central bank cannot print abundant supplies of scarce resources, particularly cheap oil. Neither can central banks encourage the creation of more fiat digital debt-money bank deposits at infinite terms and compounding interest in perpetuity to resolve the burden on the private sector of excessive existing levels of debt and debt service costs on the bottom 80-90% of households.

Only one solution ever exists at the debt-deflationary Schumpeterian depression phase of the Long Wave Trough: a reduction in public and private debt to a level that can be supported by a sustained level of net energy per capita, which in turn can support a sustainable level of labor product, production, and capital replacement; but that level is far below the 3-3.5% real growth and 5-7% nominal growth we have come to perceive as "normal" with the abundance of cheap liquid fossil fuels since the mid- to late 19th century.

Plentiful supplies of cheap liquid fossil fuels over the past 100-150 years have conditioned us to delude ourselves into believing that Nature is a subset of the economy when the precise converse is the inescapable fact. Fiat debt-money can only grow in excess of wages, production, and physical plant and equipment only as long as available net energy allows it; we passed this critical point in the mid- to late '00s, and hereafter private real growth per capita is impossible, and any nation-state or regional growth will occur at the expense of other areas.

Therefore, the growth of the Anglo-American imperial trade regime, i.e., "globalization", is over, although most of us do not yet know it. China-Asia's growth is largely derivative of massive US FDI and trade and capital flows to and within Asia. Once global growth again resumes its decline and a deflationary trajectory, China-Asia will crash.

Stock prices are discounting 4-5% nominal growth and 2-3% real growth; but 0-0.5% growth is likely the best that will occur, requiring a scale of asset deflation/liquidation and wealth consumption over the next 2-3 to 6-9 years few of us can imagine possible.

Posted by: Nemesis at November 10, 2010 11:52 AM

I am confident that $4.00/gal gas was inflationary. Falling back to $2.33 was deflationary.

Posted by: Right Wing-nut at November 10, 2010 12:04 PM

gaius marius, and others: My concern is not so much inflation as Fed-induced changes in relative prices.

Posted by: JDH at November 10, 2010 12:33 PM

What government, in the entirety of human history has ever failed to inflate a paper currency. I'll give you a hint, the answer is Z-E-R-O.

Every single paper currency in the history of the human race has ended in hyperinflation. There are ZERO, absolutely ZERO exceptions. Every single one in the history of the entire human race.

Posted by: anon at November 10, 2010 01:34 PM

Commidities are priced in dollars. Starting around 2001 our Fed, Treasury and gov't took on a weak dollar policy. Thus, of course QE and any other weak dollar policy will lead to increases in commidity prices as the dollar, for which its priced in, falls. Furthermore, weak dollar policy shifts captial into inflation safe-havens like gold and oil thus creating demand/supply disequilbrium and further increasing commodity value.

Posted by: idgafkurt at November 10, 2010 01:56 PM

(First visit, very nice post).

I think that the Fed making it easier to change prices in the recent "unexpected" inflation is actually an advantage.

Those that go up relatively more clearly indicate the areas where additional productive investment can lead to higher ROI, and more sustainable jobs. In fact, it's not knowing or being able to guess where the future "above average" demand growth is going to come from that is a major factor is stopping businesses from investing or employing more folks in that unknown area.


What other way can the nominal price of housing rise so that only an "acceptable" number of homebuyer mortgages go into default?

Posted by: Tom Grey at November 10, 2010 02:00 PM

Yet to be seen. As people see non-discretionary prices rise and feel priced out of adequate returns on investments, they'll need to save more. They reduce consumption and switch to inferior goods. There'll be Giffen behavior and further drive for liquidity.

We may end up with deflation because of QE.

Posted by: aaron at November 10, 2010 02:29 PM

My guess is it will do more harm than good for oil above $70 a barrel.

Posted by: aaron at November 10, 2010 02:35 PM

"I suppose this means that you diagree with Prof. Krugman on this question then."

I thought Krugman's point was that global QE, with little change in exchange rates, would not raise the relative price of commodities. To see who is right, we may need to wait until the euro collapses under pressure of under-priced Chimerican traded goods.

Posted by: don at November 10, 2010 02:38 PM

Rwn, the fall to 2.33 was a correction.

Posted by: aaron at November 10, 2010 02:39 PM

JDH,

If we look at rising commodity prices alongside dollar depreciation (since last summer), isn't the simplest explanation strong demand from developing nations?

Also, you said that you were worried about "Fed-induced changes in relative prices." Doesn't this concern implicitly assume that the market currently has the relative distribution of prices right and that any deviation would distort output? I suppose it's possible that the current distribution of relative prices has it about right, but quite honestly I'm not sure I'd want to bet the recovery on it. Afterall, misleading price signals in the housing market are what got us into this mess, so I'm a bit leery of assuming the market always gets relative prices right. I think a better gauge of when the Fed's gone far enough would be to wait and see when further Fed loosening results in inflation, but no measurable increase in output. I really don't care if inflation surges to 8% if it's accompanied by 5% real GDP growth. We can deal with 8% inflation later. That's a problem we know how to fix. The only value that I see in looking at commodity prices is if those prices are also signals that additional inflation will not result in increased output. That could be true, but it's not an argument that I've seen fleshed out anywhere.
In other words, if commodity price rises are an early warning of another asset bubble, then it might be time to take away the punch bowl. But if commodity prices are rising because of strong demand from developing countries, then this ought to be a good news story. Nice post. Gets the old gears grinding.

Posted by: 2slugbaits at November 10, 2010 02:52 PM

"The point is that once Bernanke starts writing editorials extolling the virtues of the wealth effect, he is "on the hook" for the market's direction. Any large decline in stock prices, and ensuing rise in unemployment, would be blamed on a Fed policy 'error'."

It seems clear a major goal of the Fed is to hold up overvalued asset prices. That was especially evident from Ben's response to the SocGen scandal.

That would be the same 'wealth effect' that helped induce U.S. consumers to profligacy that was reduced only when the apparent wealth was deflated to more realistic values. This policy of doing what pleases the people temporarily, rather than what benefits them longer term is getting old. Ben voted with Alan 100% of the time when a similar strategy was employed after the dotcom bust. Of course, in the long run, we are all dead, but unfortunately, many of us are still alive and now reapng the consequences of those earlier policies.

Posted by: don at November 10, 2010 03:00 PM

"we know there's a response when the Fed pushes the QE pedal"

Several researchers have published on the subject of QE and concluded that it has no impact. The researchers include: the Bank of Japan, Galbraith, Bezemer & Gardiner, Congdon, Ritholtz, and others. So JDH, where is your data and your analysis - or are you just an apologist and cheerleader for the Fed? If you are an apologist, you should inform your university and your students that your comments on monetary policy are not based on fact, and you don't bother to compare your statements to other economic researchers. In short, inform them that you don't follow the scientific method in the area of monetary policy.

Then there's your statement that "the Fed has the tools to prevent deflation". Since you may not follow the scientific method in the area of monetary policy, let me inform you that deflation is defined as a decline in the general price level. Your information on copper, oil, and Euro$ has nothing to do with general price levels. Or is this another example of monetary comments that are not based on fact?

Posted by: Mike Laird at November 10, 2010 04:28 PM

JDH: I meant the relationship of forex rates and commodity prices, not the relationship between commodity prices, and whether or not the recent action in such prices is also distorting exchange rates as well, and whether or not that matters.

Posted by: Robert Bell at November 10, 2010 06:29 PM

Funny, I thought QE was ineffective in a liquidity trap. :P

Posted by: Carl Lumma at November 10, 2010 07:29 PM

Well said JDH. It isn't possible for the FED to buy $600 billion in bonds without distorting relative prices. They are essentially creating the fiction that there exists $600 billion more savings--that IS what bonds should be bought with--than actually exists.

They are rendering the co-ordination of investment & savings impossible. They are causing over-investment (relative to actual savings), reflected by inflated prices of investment goods such as raw material. They are also fostering speculation in those inflating goods by destroying low risks investment alternatives like CDs.

Posted by: Bryce at November 10, 2010 07:47 PM

slugs,

In regards to this: "I really don't care if inflation surges to 8% if it's accompanied by 5% real GDP growth. We can deal with 8% inflation later."

Are you suggesting here, in this national period of wishful-thinking, that you can envision sustained real GDP growth of 5% from our service-based economy. Is there a precedent that suggests any such possibility?

And I don't understand how so many smart people can repeatedly use the term 'inflation', without making a distinction between 'price' inflation, and 'wage' inflation. There is currently a paradox involved where wage inflation comes in conflict with the necessity of increasing exports. How does a nation with less than competitive labor costs, that have already been stagnant for decades, have wage inflation while becoming more competitive globally. I don't mean to single you out on this, but it does get a little astray at times.

Posted by: rayllove at November 10, 2010 09:50 PM

The rise in the dollar price of internationally traded commodities is best understood as a fall in the relative value of domestic production inputs. What is happening to the dollar price of Chinese labor and Indian real estate? Capital is fleeing the US economy and flooding into developing countries. The dollar-based global economy is experiencing a high rate of inflation.

But the fed targets core CPI which is heavily weighted towards goods and services with a high domestic content - specifically excluding food and energy which are largely traded internationally.

Posted by: Charles R. Williams at November 11, 2010 03:18 AM

If commodity prices are up primarily due to QE, producers will not invest in more production. There will be no additional real growth.

Posted by: aaron at November 11, 2010 03:58 AM


Hard to see how higher commodity prices are a good thing for the economy. Higher input prices means lower profit margins and reduced sales (except for commodity producers). Great, that's really going to help.

Posted by: John Smith at November 11, 2010 04:18 AM

Don't just look at commodities, look at stock prices. Same story - stock prices up since QE2 was signalled.

QE leads to asset-price inflation. Bernanke's justification for QE2 was that, by increasing asset prices, the rest of the economy would benefit. This is trickle-down economics at its worst. Why would a progressive economist believe in trickle-down economics?

Macro, by looking at aggregates, can implitly make an assumption of uniformity when such is not the case. Inflation does not have to uniformly affect all prices. Inflation in commodities does not mean that there is or will be inflation in wages. With QE, asset prices are going up, not wages; there is inflation in assets, none in wages. The rich, who own assets, are doing well, by QE; everyone else is not.

Why on Earth would a progressive economist support QE? I just don't get it.

Posted by: a at November 11, 2010 04:31 AM

Professor,
One week... and the evidence is in on the relationship between QE2 and commodity prices?? One week and we can draw our economic conclusion between on the relationship between QE2 and inflation?? You can't be serious...

Beside, this post completely miss the point when it says the Fed wants to "create" inflation". The Fed wants to increase economic growth, which may lead to a "trend" level of inflation, but the FEd does not want to increase inflation everything else remaining the same as this would be an absolute disaster for the economy. Imagine paying way more for gasoline, food, utility etc while your personnal income stays the same. How would you feel about that? Not so great I think. And yes, the Fed knows it quite well. Framing the debate in term of the "Fed wants to create inflation" completely miss the point.

Finally, do you see a contradiction between your previous posts indicating that QE could have a small decreasing effect on longer term interest rates and your current assessment to the effect that the Fed is creating inflation? How could longer term treasury yields decrease if the Fed is creating huge inflation with QE? Am I missing something or there is a flagrant contradiction in your logic?

Posted by: Qc at November 11, 2010 05:08 AM

Qc: You refer to one week of evidence, yet the graphs above you compare two months actual with predicted. You say "this post entirely misses the point when it says the Fed wants to 'create inflation'" (quotation marks yours). The word "create" and the word "inflation" appear nowhere in the text. I discussed nominal versus real interest rates at length here

Your style of argumentation gets a little old.

Posted by: JDH at November 11, 2010 06:08 AM

They are essentially creating the fiction that there exists $600 billion more savings--that IS what bonds should be bought with--than actually exists.

i disagree! those bonds are both a debt and an asset -- they represent the government's obligation and private sector savings. so does cash. the difference is minimal (particularly in a market with a healthy repo mechanism.) that's why there is no inflationary impact and precious little distortion.

again, don't confuse a speculative balance sheet expansion in stocks, junk debt and commodities with something the fed does. if QE distorted prices much, the japanese would have discovered as much.

Posted by: gaius marius at November 11, 2010 06:39 AM

The rise in the dollar price of internationally traded commodities is best understood as a fall in the relative value of domestic production inputs. What is happening to the dollar price of Chinese labor and Indian real estate? Capital is fleeing the US economy and flooding into developing countries. The dollar-based global economy is experiencing a high rate of inflation.

i would argue, mr williams, that it is ZIRP and not QE that we're seeing the effects of here -- that is, the united states has become the home of global carry trade trade funding. as it's become cheaper to fund in the US, the yen has come under persistent upward pressure as yen-funded trades are unwound and dollar-funded trades are put on, weakening USD.

in other words, this is a standard-issue carry-trade-funded speculative inflation cycle. and it will come a cropper as all do, indifferently to QE.

Posted by: gaius marius at November 11, 2010 06:44 AM

I agree re: oil and industrial metals.
However, recent increases in grains and softs have been more driven by supply issues.

Posted by: John at November 11, 2010 07:06 AM

Calmo,

On oil understand that it is pulled out of the ground and does not really have a shelf life. While it is consumed, it is not like food that is both subject to the elements and to spoiling. This makes it more stable than such commodities as food.

But oil is not as stable as gold for example because gold is not destroyed in its use. Almost all the gold ever mined is still in circulation in some form. But that said both react to changes in currency. Becuase of the nature of oil production it has a slight lag behind gold in price changes. For this reason you can use the price of gold to make judgements about the direction the oil price will move. You cannot get right down to the minute or day but you can develop trends.

But our monetary authorities would have you believe that the value of the currency has no impact on oil prices. Professor Hamilton has done a good job of demonstrating that there is a connection between the currency value and the price of oil.

Posted by: Ricardo at November 11, 2010 07:40 AM

Professor,
You are right, I should have used your direct quotation:
"I feel that there is a pretty strong case for interpreting the recent surge in commodity prices as a monetary phenomenon."

So the Fed "creating inflation" is not a direct quote, but would you argue that it was totally misleading relative to what you said in your post?

I do not dispute that my style of argumentation may get a little old... I might just be afterall an old guy because I refuse to live in a gold standard economic framework of "crowding out", "money printing", "currency dabasement", "precious capital leaving the country through the current account deficit", "US Government running out of money", etc.

Almost everything we learned in economics in Universities is gold-standard era economic thinking... and it took me a while to unlearn these things. I would urge you to read stuff coming out from the Department of Economics of the University of Missouri-Kansas City (Wray, Kelton, Black, Forstarter) to learn more about non-gold standard macroeconomics.

Posted by: Qc at November 11, 2010 07:55 AM

or instead of my blather, this:

http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2010/11/just-what-is-bernanke-up-to.html

Posted by: gaius marius at November 11, 2010 08:00 AM

Let me see, cost of eating, shelter, clothing, electricity, oil and gas is up big. Hmmm? Discretionary spending? With what? The Fed is good at electing Republicans! We might say the Fed has caused a deflationary spiral in terms of Dems left in D.C. and Statehouse! LOL

Posted by: Steve at November 11, 2010 08:13 AM

This far out after the oil shock, the economy, especially its commodity planners, have a fairly direct connect between oil flows and American consumer constraints. The core rate excludes the very thing that the economy is intensely focused on, gas lines! So the economy is training itself to contract in synchrony upon restrictions in energy flows. What is normally a two step process has become a one step process, but the Fed is unaware of this.

Posted by: Matt Young at November 11, 2010 10:11 AM

Another commodities inflation chart...US Inflation Rate for Commodities

Posted by: brian at November 11, 2010 10:27 AM

Given the response to QE2, cam you estimate the contribution QE1 to oil?

Posted by: aaron at November 11, 2010 11:32 AM

Based on what I see from the specs open interest this rise in commodity prices is no different than in the summer of 2008. The illusion of of something happening due to QE2 has led to huge speculation in commodity prices. After implementing higher margin requirement (which they did not do in 2008 for some strange reason) prices fall....if this was real demand lead prices would not have fallen. This is pure speculation whichs leads to higher risk in extrapolating higher prices in the future when actual demand outside of speculation is not rising.

Posted by: Hondo at November 11, 2010 05:25 PM

Qc -- "So the Fed 'creating inflation' is not a direct quote, but would you argue that it was totally misleading relative to what you said in your post?"

Your quote above misses the point. Increasing prices for commodities appears to be a result of QE2. However, it is not correct to call this "inflation". As I understand it, the professor's point here is that we have some evidence that QE2 impacts RELATIVE prices. Clearly wages are not up, housing costs are down, etc.

Inflation is not the only bad thing that can come from QE2 or other forms of monetary expansion. And one bad thing would be increasing relative prices of commodities. At some point, even if inflation, broadly measured, does not appear, distortions in the economy in the form of changing relative prices may be the signal that further monetary expansion will be more harmful than helpful. And that seems to be the case right now.

Posted by: Anon at November 12, 2010 09:13 AM

anon It's possible that anticipation of QE2 helped push up copper prices; but it's also possible that Chinese demand over the last 3 months pushed it up as well. And today we read that prices for copper, lead, zinc, nickel, aluminum and tin all plunged today on concerns about a falling off in Chinese demand.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-12/copper-declines-from-record-price-on-speculation-china-will-increase-rates.html

JDH's chart begins 1 September, which presumably corresponds to the time when the Fed started to talk seriously about the prospect of a QE2 action. The problem is that by early September copper prices were already 2 months into a rather steady price increase. So if QE2 explains the rise after 1 September, what explains the rise that began in mid-summer? Well, one obvious candidate might be the dollar depreciation, which also began in mid-summer. In other words, I don't have a problem with the claim that dollar depreciation explains the price rise in commodities like copper; but what's less convincing is anything suggesting that the dollar depreciation that began in July is the result of QE2 speculation. I think you could make that case if the dollar depreciation and commodity price rises both began in (say) October; but the turning point was in July. That just seems too early to be plausibly explained by QE2 speculation.

BTW, it might just be a coincidence, but Obama's in South Korea for a trade talk that's going badly. Meanwhile the Pentagon gets a Wednesday morning briefing from the industrial base analysts outlining strategic concerns across the US industrial base about not being able to meet production targets because suppliers are unable to procure key commodities because China has been gobbling up every contract in sight. And it's not just metals contracts. Then the next day China hints at a drop in future demand.

Posted by: 2slugbaits at November 12, 2010 11:42 AM

Anon,
But if QE increase commodity prices and does not have any other effect, why would we ever want QE in the first place? Paying less for gasolines and food would be much better than paying more everything else remaining the same.

I know mainstream economists would respond that the goal of QE is not to increase commodity prices per se, but rather to decrease real interest rates -through its effect on inflation- so to encourage people to consume. I am sorry but no consumers think this way. Inflation expectations run currently at close to 3% according to suvey making expected real interest rate extremely low, but consumers are still in debt repayment mode, not in leveraging mode. This is a good thing at the invidiual level, but it has a disastrous effect at the macro level. This is precisely why the government has to offset debt reduction by the private sector through deficit spending (mostly done anyway through the automatic stabilisers).

As for my view about QE, you can safely hit the snooze button. QE is just like swapping T-Bills for longer term bonds. Would anyone make a big fuss if the Government would decide to replace longer term bonds in circulation with T-Bills? Likely not. In fact, we would likely not even heard of it. We should welcome QE exactly the same way.

Posted by: Qc at November 12, 2010 12:18 PM

gaius marius,
What you state is clearly wrong. There is tremendous inflation in the price of investment goods: stocks, bonds, raw materials. Ask yourself why these things are so inflated in price relative to consumer goods.

You are remarkably confused to imply that when the gov't borrows money that the Fed creates out of thin air private savings are created.

Posted by: Bryce at November 12, 2010 07:21 PM

[Sep 12, 2010] How Hyperinflation Will Happen

August 23, 2010

Right now, we are in the middle of deflation. The Global Depression we are experiencing has squeezed both aggregate demand levels and aggregate asset prices as never before. Since the credit crunch of September 2008, the U.S. and world economies have been slowly circling the deflationary drain.

To counter this, the U.S. government has been running massive deficits, as it seeks to prop up aggregate demand levels by way of fiscal "stimulus" spending-the classic Keynesian move, the same old prescription since donkey's ears.

But the stimulus, apart from being slow and inefficient, has simply not been enough to offset the fall in consumer spending.

For its part, the Federal Reserve has been busy propping up all assets-including Treasuries-by way of "quantitative easing".

The Fed is terrified of the U.S. economy falling into a deflationary death-spiral: Lack of liquidity, leading to lower prices, leading to unemployment, leading to lower consumption, leading to still lower prices, the entire economy grinding down to a halt. So the Fed has bought up assets of all kinds, in order to inject liquidity into the system, and bouy asset price levels so as to prevent this deflationary deep-freeze-and will continue to do so. After all, when your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

But this Fed policy-call it "money-printing", call it "liquidity injections", call it "asset price stabilization"-has been overwhelmed by the credit contraction. Just as the Federal government has been unable to fill in the fall in aggregate demand by way of stimulus, the Fed has expanded its balance sheet from some $900 billion in the Fall of '08, to about $2.3 trillion today-but that additional $1.4 trillion has been no match for the loss of credit. At best, the Fed has been able to alleviate the worst effects of the deflation-it certainly has not turned the deflationary environment into anything resembling inflation.

Yields are low, unemployment up, CPI numbers are down (and under some metrics, negative)-in short, everything screams "deflation".

Therefore, the notion of talking about hyperinflation now, in this current macro-economic environment, would seem . . . well . . . crazy. Right?

Wrong: I would argue that the next step down in this world-historical Global Depression which we are experiencing will be hyperinflation.

Most people dismiss the very notion of hyperinflation occurring in the United States as something only tin-foil hatters, gold-bugs, and Right-wing survivalists drool about. In fact, most sensible people don't even bother arguing the issue at all-everyone knows that only fools bother arguing with a bigger fool.

A minority, though-and God bless 'em-actually do go ahead and go through the motions of talking to the crazies ranting about hyperinflation. These amiable souls diligently point out that in a deflationary environment-where commodity prices are more or less stable, there are downward pressures on wages, asset prices are falling, and credit markets are shrinking-inflation is impossible. Therefore, hyperinflation is even more impossible.

This outlook seems sensible-if we fall for the trap of thinking that hyperinflation is an extention of inflation. If we think that hyperinflation is simply inflation on steroids-inflation-plus-inflation with balls-then it would seem to be the case that, in our current deflationary economic environment, hyperinflation is not simply a long way off, but flat-out ridiculous.

But hyperinflation is not an extension or amplification of inflation. Inflation and hyperinflation are two very distinct animals. They look the same-because in both cases, the currency loses its purchasing power-but they are not the same.

Inflation is when the economy overheats: It's when an economy's consumables (labor and commodities) are so in-demand because of economic growth, coupled with an expansionist credit environment, that the consumables rise in price. This forces all goods and services to rise in price as well, so that producers can keep up with costs. It is essentially a demand-driven phenomena.

Hyperinflation is the loss of faith in the currency. Prices rise in a hyperinflationary environment just like in an inflationary environment, but they rise not because people want more money for their labor or for commodities, but because people are trying to get out of the currency. It's not that they want more money-they want less of the currency: So they will pay anything for a good which is not the currency.

Right now, the U.S. government is indebted to about 100% of GDP, with a yearly fiscal deficit of about 10% of GDP, and no end in sight. For its part, the Federal Reserve is purchasing Treasuries, in order to finance the fiscal shortfall, both directly (the recently unveiled QE-lite) and indirectly (through the Too Big To Fail banks). The Fed is satisfying two objectives: One, supporting the government in its efforts to maintain aggregate demand levels, and two, supporting asset prices, and thereby prevent further deflationary erosion. The Fed is calculating that either path-increase in aggregate demand levels or increase in aggregate asset values-leads to the same thing: A recovery in the economy.

This recovery is not going to happen-that's the news we've been getting as of late. Amid all this hopeful talk about "avoiding a double-dip", it turns out that we didn't avoid a double-dip-we never really managed to claw our way out of the first dip. No matter all the stimulus, no matter all the alphabet-soup liquidity windows over the past 2 years, the inescapable fact is that the economy has been-and is headed-down.

But both the Federal government and the Federal Reserve are hell-bent on using the same old tired tools to "fix the economy"-stimulus on the one hand, liquidity injections on the other. (See my discussion of The Deficit here.)

It's those very fixes that are pulling us closer to the edge. Why? Because the economy is in no better shape than it was in September 2008-and both the Federal Reserve and the Federal government have shot their wad. They got nothin' left, after trillions in stimulus and trillions more in balance sheet expansion-

-but they have accomplished one thing: They have undermined Treasuries. These policies have turned Treasuries into the spit-and-baling wire of the U.S. financial system-they are literally the only things holding the whole economy together.

In other words, Treasuries are now the New and Improved Toxic Asset. Everyone knows that they are overvalued, everyone knows their yields are absurd-yet everyone tiptoes around that truth as delicately as if it were a bomb. Which is actually what it is.

So this is how hyperinflation will happen:

One day-when nothing much is going on in the markets, but general nervousness is running like a low-grade fever (as has been the case for a while now)-there will be a commodities burp: A slight but sudden rise in the price of a necessary commodity, such as oil.

This will jiggle Treasury yields, as asset managers will reduce their Treasury allocations, and go into the pressured commodity, in order to catch a profit. (Actually it won't even be the asset managers-it will be their programmed trades.) These asset managers will sell Treasuries because, effectively, it's become the principal asset they have to sell.

It won't be the volume of the sell-off that will pique Bernanke and the drones at the Fed-it will be the timing. It'll happen right before a largish Treasury auction. So Bernanke and the Fed will buy Treasuries, in an effort to counteract the sell-off and maintain low yields-they want to maintain low yields in order to discourage deflation. But they'll also want to keep the Treasury cheaply funded. QE-lite has already set the stage for direct Fed buys of Treasuries. The world didn't end. So the Fed will feel confident as it moves forward and nips this Treasury yield jiggle in the bud.

The Fed's buying of Treasuries will occur in such a way that it will encourage asset managers to dump even more Treasuries into the Fed's waiting arms. This dumping of Treasuries won't be out of fear, at least not initially. Most likely, in the first 15 minutes or so of this event, the sell-off in Treasuries will be orderly, and carried out with the idea (at the time) of picking up those selfsame Treasuries a bit cheaper down the line.

However, the Fed will interpret this sell-off as a run on Treasuries. The Fed is already attuned to the bond markets' fear that there's a "Treasury bubble". So the Fed will open its liquidity windows, and buy up every Treasury in sight, precisely so as to maintain "asset price stability" and "calm the markets".

The Too Big To Fail banks will play a crucial part in this game. See, the problem with the American Zombies is, they weren't nationalized. They got the best bits of nationalization-total liquidity, suspension of accounting and regulatory rules-but they still get to act under their own volition, and in their own best interest. Hence their obscene bonuses, paid out in the teeth of their practical bankruptcy. Hence their lack of lending into the weakened economy. Hence their hoarding of bailout monies, and predatory business practices. They've understood that, to get that sweet bail-out money (and those yummy bonuses), they have had to play the Fed's game and buy up Treasuries, and thereby help disguise the monetization of the fiscal debt that has been going on since the Fed began purchasing the toxic assets from their balance sheets in 2008.

But they don't have to do what the Fed tells them, much less what the Treasury tells them. Since they weren't really nationalized, they're not under anyone's thumb. They can do as they please-and they have boatloads of Treasuries on their balance sheets.

So the TBTF banks, on seeing this run on Treasuries, will add to the panic by acting in their own best interests: They will be among the first to step off Treasuries. They will be the bleeding edge of the wave.

Here the panic phase of the event begins: Asset managers-on seeing this massive Fed buy of Treasuries, and the American Zombies selling Treasuries, all of this happening within days of a largish Treasury auction-will dump their own Treasuries en masse. They will be aware how precarious the U.S. economy is, how over-indebted the government is, how U.S. Treasuries look a lot like Greek debt. They're not stupid: Everyone is aware of the idea of a "Treasury bubble" making the rounds. A lot of people-myself included-think that the Fed, the Treasury and the American Zombies are colluding in a triangular trade in Treasury bonds, carrying out a de facto Stealth Monetization: The Treasury issues the debt to finance fiscal spending, the TBTF banks buy them, with money provided to them by the Fed.

Whether it's true or not is actually beside the point-there is the widespread perception that that is what's going on. In a panic, widespread perception is your trading strategy.

So when the Fed begins buying Treasuries full-blast to prop up their prices, these asset managers will all decide, "Time to get out of Dodge-now."

Note how it will not be China or Japan who all of a sudden decide to get out of Treasuries-those two countries will actually be left holding the bag. Rather, it will be American and (depending on the time of day when the event happens) European asset managers who get out of Treasuries first. It will be a flash panic-much like the flash-crash of last May. The events I describe above will happen in a very short span of time-less than an hour, probably. But unlike the event in May, there will be no rebound.

Notice, too, that Treasuries will maintain their yields in the face of this sell-off, at least initially. Why? Because the Fed, so determined to maintain "price stability", will at first prevent yields from widening-which is precisely why so many will decide to sell into the panic: The Bernanke Backstop won't soothe the markets-rather, it will make it too tempting not to sell.

The first of the asset managers or TBTF banks who are out of Treasuries will look for a place to park their cash-obviously. Where will all this ready cash go?

Commodities.

By the end of that terrible day, commodites of all stripes-precious and industrial metals, oil, foodstuffs-will shoot the moon. But it will not be because ordinary citizens have lost faith in the dollar (that will happen in the days and weeks ahead)-it will happen because once Treasuries are not the sure store of value, where are all those money managers supposed to stick all these dollars? In a big old vault? Under the mattress? In euros?

Commodities: At the time of the panic, commodities will be perceived as the only sure store of value, if Treasuries are suddenly anathema to the market-just as Treasuries were perceived as the only sure store of value, once so many of the MBS's and CMBS's went sour in 2007 and 2008.

It won't be commodity ETF's, or derivatives-those will be dismissed (rightfully) as being even less safe than Treasuries. Unlike before the Fall of '08, this go-around, people will pay attention to counterparty risk. So the run on commodities will be for actual, feel-it-'cause-it's-there commodities. By the end of the day of this panic, commodities will have risen between 50% and 100%. By week's end, we're talking 150% to 250%. (My private guess is gold will be finessed, but silver will shoot up the most-to $100 an ounce within the week.)

Of course, once commodities start to balloon, that's when ordinary citizens will get their first taste of hyperinflation. They'll see it at the gas pumps.

If oil spikes from $74 to $150 in a day, and then to $300 in a matter of a week-perfectly possible, in the midst of a panic-the gallon of gasoline will go to, what: $10? $15? $20?

So what happens then? People-regular Main Street people-will be crazy to buy up commodities (heating oil, food, gasoline, whatever) and buy them now while they are still more-or-less affordable, rather than later, when that $15 gallon of gas shoots to $30 per gallon.

If everyone decides at roughly the same time to exchange one good-currency-for another good-commodities-what happens to the relative price of one and the relative value of the other? Easy: One soars, the other collapses.

When people freak out and begin panic-buying basic commodities, their ordinary financial assets-equities, bonds, etc.-will collapse: Everyone will be rushing to get cash, so as to turn around and buy commodities.

So immediately after the Treasury markets tank, equities will fall catastrophically, probably within the next few days following the Treasury panic. This collapse in equity prices will bring an equivalent burst in commodity prices-the second leg up, if you will.

This sell-off of assets in pursuit of commodities will be self-reinforcing: There won't be anything to stop it. As it spills over into the everyday economy, regular people will panic and start unloading hard assets-durable goods, cars and trucks, houses-in order to get commodities, principally heating oil, gas and foodstuffs. In other words, real-world assets will not appreciate or even hold their value, when the hyperinflation comes.

This is something hyperinflationist-skeptics never quite seem to grasp: In hyperinflation, asset prices don't skyrocket-they collapse, both nominally and in relation to consumable commodities. A $300,000 house falls to $60,000 or less, or better yet, 50 ounces of silver-because in a hyperinflationist episode, a house is worthless, whereas 50 bits of silver can actually buy you stuff you might need.

Right now, I'm guessing that sensible people who've read this far are dismissing me as being full of shit-or at least victim of my own imagination. These sensible people, if they deign to engage in the scenario I've outlined above, will argue that the government-be it the Fed or the Treasury or a combination thereof-will find a way to stem the panic in Treasuries (if there ever is one), and put a stop to hyperinflation (if such a foolish and outlandish notion ever came to pass in America).

Uh-huh: So the Government will save us, is that it? Okay, so then my question is, How?

Let's take the Fed: How could they stop a run on Treasuries? Answer: They can't. See, the Fed has already been shoring up Treasuries-that was their strategy in 2008-'09: Buy up toxic assets from the TBTF banks, and have them turn around and buy Treasuries instead, all the while carefully monitoring Treasuries for signs of weakness. If Treasuries now turn toxic, what's the Fed supposed to do? Bernanke long ago ran out of ammo: He's just waving an empty gun around. If there's a run on Treasuries, and he starts buying them to prop them up, it'll only give incentive to other Treasury holders to get out now while the getting's still good. If everyone decides to get out of Treasuries, then Bernanke and the Fed can do absolutely nothing effective. They're at the mercy of events-in fact, they have been for quite a while already. They just haven't realized it.

Well if the Fed can't stop this, how about the Federal government-surely they can stop this, right?

In a word, no. They certainly lack the means to prevent a run on Treasuries. And as to hyperinflation, what exactly would the Federal government do to stop it? Implement price controls? That will only give rise to a rampant black market. Put soldiers out on the street? America is too big. Squirt out more "stimulus"? Sure, pump even more currency into a rapidly hyperinflating everyday economy-right . . .

(BTW, I actually think that this last option is something the Federal government might be foolish enough to try. Some moron like Palin or Biden might well advocate this idea of helter-skelter money-printing so as to "help all hard-working Americans". And if they carried it out, this would bring us American-made images of people using bundles of dollars to feed their chimneys. I actually don't think that politicians are so stupid as to actually start printing money to "fight rising prices"-but hey, when it comes to stupidity, you never know how far they can go.)

In fact, the only way the Federal government might be able to ameliorate the situation is if it decided to seize control of major supermarkets and gas stations, and hand out cupon cards of some sort, for basic staples-in other words, food rationing. This might prevent riots and protect the poor, the infirm and the old-it certainly won't change the underlying problem, which will be hyperinflation.

"This is all bloody ridiculous," I can practically hear the hyperinflation skeptics fume. "We're just going through what the Japanese experienced: Just like the U.S., they went into massive government stimulus-hell, they invented quantitative easing-and look what's happened to them: Stagnation, yes-hyperinflation, no."

That's right: The parallels with Japan are remarkably similar-except for one key difference. Japanese sovereign debt is infinitely more stable than America's, because in Japan, the people are savers-they own the Japanese debt. In America, the people are broke, and the Nervous Nelly banks own the debt. That's why Japanese sovereign debt is solid, whereas American Treasuries are soap-bubble-fragile.

That's why I think there'll be hyperinflation in America-that bubble's soon to pop. I'm guessing if it doesn't happen this fall, it'll happen next fall, without question before the end of 2011.

The question for us now-ad portas to this hyperinflationary event-is, what to do?

Neanderthal survivalists spend all their time thinking about post-Apocalypse America. The real trick, however, is to prepare for after the end of the Apocalypse.

The first thing to realize, of course, is that hyperinflation might well happen-but it will end. It won't be a never-ending situation-America won't end up like in some post-Apocalyptic, Mad Max: Beyond Thuderdome industrial wasteland/playground. Admittedly, that would be cool, but it's not gonna happen-that's just survivalist daydreams.


Instead, after a spell of hyperinflation, America will end up pretty much like it is today-only with a bad hangover. Actually, a hyperinflationist spell might be a good thing: It would finally clean out all the bad debts in the economy, the crap that the Fed and the Federal government refused to clean out when they had the chance in 2007–'09. It would break down and reset asset prices to more realistic levels-no more $12 million one-bedroom co-ops on the UES. And all in all, a hyperinflationist catastrophe might in the long run be better for the health of the U.S. economy and the morale of the American people, as opposed to a long drawn-out stagnation. Ask the Japanese if they would have preferred a couple-three really bad years, instead of Two Lost Decades, and the answer won't be surprising. But I digress.

Like Rothschild said, "Buy when there's blood on the streets." The thing to do to prepare for hyperinflation would be to invest in a diversified hard-metal basket before the event-no equities, no ETF's, no derivatives. If and when hyperinflation happens, and things get bad (and I mean really bad), take that hard-metal basket and-right in the teeth of the crisis-buy residential property, as well as equities in long-lasting industries; mining, pharma and chemicals especially, but no value-added companies, like tech, aerospace or industrials. The reason is, at the peak of hyperinflation, the most valuable assets will be dirt-cheap-especially equities-especially real estate.

I have no idea what will happen after we reach the point where $100 is no longer enough to buy a cup of coffee-but I do know that, after such a hyperinflationist period, there'll be a "new dollar" or some such, with a few zeroes knocked off the old dollar, and things will slowly get back to a new normal. I have no idea the shape of that new normal. I wouldn't be surprised if that new normal has a quasi or de facto dictatorship, and certainly some form of wage-and-price controls-I'd say it's likely, but for now that's not relevant.

What is relevant is, the current situation cannot long continue. The Global Depression we are in is being exacerbated by the very measures being used to fix it-stimulus is putting pressure on Treasuries, which are being shored up by the Fed. This obviously cannot have a happy ending. Therefore, the smart money prepares for what it believes is going to happen next.

I think we're going to have hyperinflation. I hope I have managed to explain why.

The Deflation vs Hyperinflation Debate On Steroids, Or Mish vs Gonzalo Lira In The Octagon zero hedge

Popo
on Sun, 09/12/2010 - 06:43
#576664

Gonzalo is a pretty smart cat, but he's not all that experienced in markets. For one, he tends to base his predictions onexperiences and historical references with which he is familiar. (and gets quite far with this methodology). But his lack of real world market experience leads him to make a few mistakes. In Gonzalo's view, there is some scenario on the horizon In which foreign nations stop buying US debt, and the US (for some as yet, unclarified reason) witnesses this happening and does nothing. This makes no sense. Why wouldn't the US just raise rates? This is a fundamental problem with the inflationist point of view. The bond market is what sets US rates - not policy, contrary to propaganda. In many cases, policy follows markets and does not lead. Yes, the US will try to inflate. But at the Shazam moment, the US will raise in order to keep borrowing. Higher rates will curtail inflation. This is what Michael Pento was trying to say when they booted him. The powers that be know that deflation is possible ...but they don't want you knowing that.

by Teaser on Sun, 09/12/2010 - 08:16 #576717

But at the Shazam moment, the US will raise in order to keep borrowing. Higher rates will curtail inflation.

Ok, so the US raises rates to keep borrowing... Now take your argument, which is valid, one step further, what happens? The first sentence is correct, the second is incorrect when you step back and recognize why the first statement is correct.

You just reinforced the hyperinflation argument without knowing it! thanks.

EQ on Sun, 09/12/2010 - 09:07 #576752

Mish does suffer from solipsism and is wildly uninformed and is an ideologue with huge blind spots in his thinking but so is the author of this article. His primary premise of what will cause hyperinflation is absolutely ridiculous and shows his ignorance. It simply is not possible as he describes it. His lengthy bloviating is akin to the Johnny Cochran defense of OJ. Pull shit out of your ass if it sounds good. Unfortunately, the courts were not supposed to allow such a defense. And in this case, it is no different. The zombie banks are all primary dealers of the Federal Reserve of the United States of America. They MUST eat the garbage the Fed offers to the market. It is law. That is why they were not nationalized. So the Fed could continue to ease and be guaranteed a buyer. All of the other hogwash following his thesis that they will tilt the balance unknowingly one day is asinine. He doesn't even understand basic concepts of central banking.

Gonzalo Lira on Sun, 09/12/2010 - 09:29 #576781

Aphorism #3

http://gonzalolira.blogspot.com/2010/06/aphorisms.html

[Sep 06, 2010] The Unstoppable Rising Cost of Tuition

September 5, 2010 | The Mess That Greenspan Made

It's funny how, in recent years, the cost of domestic services such as college tuition and health care – services that can't be outsourced or purchased from abroad – have been two of the few items in the consumer price index that have risen relentlessly. The Economist looked at how college costs stack up with inflation and wages in this story the other day.

They note that college fees have been rising far faster than incomes. Perhaps if all higher education could be conducted somewhere in Asia where salaries are lower and benefits are not so generous, a college degree wouldn't be so expensive.

notjonathon

I was a professor at a small liberal arts college in Japan for sixteen years. We had about two thousand students overall, a faculty of a hundred or so and administrative staff of less than fifty. We received some government support, but tuition and fees for our students are less than ten thousand a year (higher for the new nursing school).

A bubble lesson: After attrition and pay cuts amounting to about 20% of our salaries, the personnel costs for faculty were cut by almost 50%. However, mismanagement, deflation and low birth rates meant that we were forced to eat another concession; retirement age was cut by two years (another feature of Japanese employment lets a faculty member retire once and be rehired at half pay–second retirement was moved up three years, as well).

Savings to the school were enormous–I calculated my total loss (real vs. originally promised income) at somewhere around four hundred thousand dollars. Multiply that by a hundred!

Salaries were also pegged to the pay scale of public employees. This was great during the boom years; as the CPI rose, so did salaries. Came the budget crunch and salaries began to fall. Soon after I retired, there was a 10% across the board salary cut for public employees in the Prefecture, so my former college peers took another hit. For some of the younger faculty, the lifetime losses will easily amount to seven figures (that's ten figures in Yen).

Is this the future for the US?

The capture of the universities by administrators is another feature of US higher education that needs to be addressed. Even as more and more faculty are reduced to adjunct status, administrators proliferate. This non-educational burden will eventually sink the entire system.

The idea of for-profit education might have shown initial promise, but these school corporations were founded on a flawed premise: profits first, education second. Their growth was in turn fueled by the insane student loan bubble (a part of the mess that Greenspan made) that transformed them into mini financial institutions (or should I say casinos). Instead of lowering costs and providing better education, they proved to be just another method of putting the already disadvantaged further in debt.

Sorry for jumping all over the place.

[Aug 08, 2010] Deflation Watch Deflation is Right

August 6, 2010 | Credit Bubble Stocks

Good big-picture perspective from Sovereign Speculator:

Also remember that the public sector has gotten itself into huge trouble, which is just starting to take effect with austerity measures in Europe and pending bankruptcies in US municipalities. US states are also broke and will have to finally deal with their union problems. Shrinking government worker salaries, if not payrolls, will put further pressure on demand for goods and leave banks with more bad loans. None of this is inflationary. Remember, in the '70s private debt was low and growing, and companies were increasing their revenues and profits so that by '82 Dow 1000 was a bargain. Now we're in a generational de-leveraging, frugality-restoring mode, Kondratieff winter for lack of a better term.

The last couple of years should give deflationists confidence that we're able to correctly assess the situation. Where is that dollar crash? What about $200 oil? What, in 2010 China still owns trillions in treasuries? Bernanke has tripled the US base money supply but a dozen eggs is still $1.50 and the long bond yields 4%? Obama spent how much, and unemployment is 17% ?

One of the biggest stories of the year is deflationists and Treasury bulls being proven right.

2 comments:

Leonard:

It be a bit early for you deflationistas to be declaring victory; you may well be correct in the short term, but perhaps not in the long term, it remains to be seen. Here's something to consider that seems to be surprisingly absent from almost all commentary on the subject: In deflation, as prices decline due to the deflation, wages necessarily fall (to zero for those workers unwilling to face reality), government revenues fall as well, yet the nominal denominations of the government debt remains the same, even as the value of each currency unit increases, making already mathematically unsupportable debt levels absolutely unpayable and the subject government goes poof! So, do you really think Chopper Ben will let the US government go under due collapse by debt, or would he rather dump unlimited money into the economy even though that will destroy the citizens wealth a la Weimar? I think I know where his priorities lie and I'll keep my inflation hedges, thank you.

kackermann:

Ah... where is Ben going to dump the money?

Please don't say the banks.

[Aug 07, 2010] The Inflation and Deflation Debate Deconstructed

'What most people call reason is really rationalization. Given a new set of data, most people will search through it only for those examples that support their existing beliefs. Their beliefs are really opinions, a tenuous collection of myths, anecdotes, slogans, and prejudices based largely on justifying personal fear and greed. This is what makes modern propaganda so powerful; people do not bother to think critically and objectively and act for the greatest good. And in their ignorance they can find the will to do increasingly monstrous things, and rationalize them.' Jesse

In a purely fiat regime, the question of a general (monetary) deflation and inflation is a policy decision. Anyone who does not understand this does not understand the modern mechanism of money creation. As the pundit said, "The mind rebels..."

But rather than engage in the usual facile intramurals about the topic, let's consider something more important. How does one 'play this' which is really what all these discussions are about: self interest.

The champion of deflation is the Treasury Bond (and the Dollar), and of the inflationists, Gold.

There are extremes on both sides, and probably more sense in the middle, since life rarely sustains the extreme unless there are people messing about with it. The only naturally efficient markets are in ... nature, and that only as measured over the long term.

Anyone who doesn't think Treasuries have been in a long bull market are blind fools.

But the same is true of gold.

I will leave the dollar aside for now to simplify the discussion, but it hardly lends itself to the deflationary theory.

People who have taken positions and held them in both Treasuries and Gold over the past ten years have made money, a very nice return. When one has a theory that consistently and reasonably encompasses that, you might have something worthwhile.

The deflationists will say that gold is a bubble fueled by mistaken speculators, and the inflationists will say that the Treasuries are being supported and manipulated by the Fed. Neither is able to look out from their deep wells of subjectivity.

You may wish to consider that the great part of this discussion, inflation versus deflation, is a diversion. But that is a discussion for another time.

The question for all failing theories is, as always, what next. What is the alternate count.

Oh boy oh boy, [our desired outcome] is finally coming and when it gets here its going to be good. We are finally turning [Japanese / Weimar].

Things are in bull markets, or bear markets, until they are not. The undeniable trend break is the best indication of change in momentum.

But things in the world of complexity are rarely as simple or straightforward as the average mind will allow, or can accept.

Anyone who thinks the Fed is impotent has not been paying attention to the last one hundred years. The Fed is not impotent, merely constrained. Their constraint is the policy arm of the government, the dollar, and the bond, in the absence of some external standards including external force.

Until one understands that, nothing can or will make sense. That is why the current discussion is so nasty and propaganda-like. It is not about what will happen, but rather about a public policy decision, about what people want to happen.

Consider that these debates are merely diversions, to distract people away from the most significant factors in their troubles, which are exploitation and fraud, and a military-industrial complex that is largely unproductive in terms of organic growth, and is quite simply no longer sustainable.

Paid professionals who were arguing the virtue of credit expansion as the bubbles blossomed are now arguing just as strenuously for austerity now that the bubbles are collapsing, their masters having taken their spoils. They will say for pay, without regard for the solutions that are in the best interest of the country. Few are thinking of their country anymore, as the individual is conditioned to think of themselves as globalized abstractions.

As always, be careful what you wish for, because you may get it. In this current climate, this class warfare, the American nation is a house divided. And you know what happens to those.

And the winners may inherit the wreckage, a pyrrhic victory indeed, but they can console themselves with the satisfaction that they have won the irrelevant debate.

[Aug 07, 2010] Guest Post Fuck The Deficit (Or Will The Deficit End Up Fucking Us) zero hedge

Fuck The Deficit (Or Will The Deficit End Up Fucking Us?)

Submitted by Gonzalo Lira

Currently, the United States is conducting one of the most remarkable experiments in fiscal finances in world history.

The American economy is in a severe recession. Coupled with that-as both partial cause and partial effect of the recession-the United States' banking system crashed in the Fall of '08, a crash which in many ways is still ongoing as I write this, nearly two years later.

What the recession and the concomitant banking crisis have caused are, essentially, a fall in aggregate demand levels, as well as a fall in aggregate asset value. In other words, the population is spending less, and asset values have deteriorated, both nominally and as compared to any basket of hard commodities.

These are the two metrics which the two principal camps of current American macroeconomic thought consider vital. "Saltwater" economists look to aggregate demand levels, while "freshwater" economists look to aggregate asset value-each of these camps view their fetish-object as the cornerstone for economic growth, development and prosperity. Naturally, when either of these camps see their juju slide, they freak out. They declare the economy to be "in crisis"-and further declare that "something must be done".

Something has been done: It's called The Deficit.

To combat the fall in aggregate demand levels, the Federal Government has embarked on a massive spending program. This spending program has been financed by debt issued by the Treasury. The way things are looking, another big spending package is in the offing some time soon-that should keep the "saltwaters" happy.

On the other hand, to combat the fall in aggregate asset value-and keep the "freshwaters" happy-the Federal Reserve Board has embarked on an asset purchase program that is also massive and unprecedented.

Through a fairly complex scheme that seems to be deliberately opaque, the Fed has relieved the Too Big To Fail banks of their deteriorated assets, and given them cash, in an ongoing process. The Too Big To Fail banks have turned around and used that cash to purchase Treasury bonds-which are being used to finance this massive Federal Government spending. Whether there has been collusion between the Treasury, the Fed and the TBTF banks is for the courts and the historians to decide-but prima facie, it would certainly look so.

This two-sided scheme-more Federal Government spending on the one hand, and more propping up of asset values on the other-adds up to The Deficit.

When I refer to it as The Deficit (it is too majestic for the lowercase), I am not referring to a mere fiscal shortfall-I am referring to a policy mentality. This policy mentality-shared by both "saltwater" and "freshwater" economists-effectively amounts to a suspension of the notion of opportunity cost. In the realm of The Deficit, the macroeconomic policy questions cease to be "either/or"-they become "both/and". All policy options can be achieved because-according to the macroeconomic policy known as The Deficit-the American fiscal shortfall can never bring the United States to bankruptcy. As Dick Cheney so memorably phrased it, deficits don't matter-so The Deficit as a macroeconomic policy can continue indefinitely.

In a historical sense, The Deficit is unprecedented...

[May 29, 2009] Krugman: Fear of inflation baseless

Krugman still thinks like a neo-classical economist...

Nobel laureate and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman laments all the wasted energy spent worrying over a potential rise in consumer prices somewhere down the road.

It's important to realize that there's no hint of inflationary pressures in the economy right now. Consumer prices are lower now than they were a year ago, and wage increases have stalled in the face of high unemployment.

Deflation, not inflation, is the clear and present danger.

So if prices aren't rising, why the inflation worries? Some claim that the Federal Reserve is printing lots of money, which must be inflationary, while others claim that budget deficits will eventually force the U.S. government to inflate away its debt. The first story is just wrong. The second could be right, but isn't.

Here's where it gets kind of interesting.

It is as if, after the worst economic contraction since the Great Depression, once banks get the "all clear" from who knows where that the system has righted itself and it's back to business as usual, all those excess reserves will just vanish. Now, it's true that the Fed has taken unprecedented actions lately. More specifically, it has been buying lots of debt both from the government and from the private sector, and paying for these purchases by crediting banks with extra reserves. And in ordinary times, this would be highly inflationary: banks, flush with reserves, would increase loans, which would drive up demand, which would push up prices.

But these aren't ordinary times. Banks aren't lending out their extra reserves. They're just sitting on them - in effect, they're sending the money right back to the Fed. So the Fed isn't really printing money after all.

Still, don't such actions have to be inflationary sooner or later?

Apparently not.

And don't worry too much about the large and growing U.S. debt and the potential for foreign creditors to eventually tire of being our sugar daddy.

It's all gonna be OK. In fact, "the only thing we have to fear is inflation fear itself".

[May 27, 2009] Guest Post: Liquidity Drowning the Meaning of Inflation? by Leo Kolivakis

On Monday, Sheldon Filger wrote an article in the London Telegraph stating that the U.S. economy risks the dire prospect of hyperinflation:

... though not downgrading the danger of deflation, I believe policymakers are ignoring other factors regarding this economic and financial condition. Furthermore, the U.S. government and Federal Reserve in particular, are taking steps to "cure" deflation that will inevitably lead to hyperinflation, which in the long-term may prove far more destructive to the long-term health of the U.S. economy.

History demonstrates that deflation is not a permanent condition. Market forces, unencumbered by fiscal and monetary intervention, eventually restore pricing equilibrium. At a certain point prices of major durables such as homes are low enough to encourage new categories of consumers to enter the marketplace. As demand is restored, prices stabilize and then resume their upward ascent. It is all a question of time. However, key decision-makers in the United States are not paragons of patience. They want deflation cured immediately, which explains why the U.S. Treasury and Federal Reserve are hell-bent on policies that are guaranteed to be inflationary. The question is how bad will inflation ultimately be.

Massive quantitative easing by the Fed is pouring trillions of U.S. dollars into the money supply, essentially conjured out of thin air. This is being done without transparency, the rationale being that frozen credit markets require a vast expansion of the money supply in an attempt to get the arteries of commerce flowing again. Similarly, the U.S. government is spending vast amounts of money it does not have, with the Treasury Department selling unprecedented levels of government debt in a frantic effort to fund the wildly expanding U.S. deficit. These two forces, quantitative easing and multi-trillion dollar deficits, are the core ingredients of an explosive fiscal cocktail that I believe will ultimately lead to hyperinflation.

What exactly is hyperinflation? Economists disagree on a common definition, so I will offer one myself. Double-digit inflation extending over a period of at least two years would arguably be a hyperinflationary period. It can get much worse, witness Weimar Germany in the early 1920's and Zimbabwe at present. The most recent experience the United States had with this unstable economic condition was in 1981, when the annual CPI rate exceeded 13%. The cure was draconian; Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker engineered a severe economic recession that created the highest level of U.S. unemployment since the Great Depression -- until now. The federal funds rate, currently near zero, rose to above 20% under Volcker's harsh discipline. Eventually high inflation was purged out of the system and economic growth was restored, however the monetary regimen was punitive for several years.

The current monetary and fiscal policies being enacted by the key economic decision-makers in the United States are laying the groundwork for a far more dangerous inflationary environment than anything encountered by Paul Volcker.

The explosive growth in the money supply and government debt is simply unsustainable without severe inflation. It must be kept in mind that the Federal government is not the only public authority engaged in massive deficit spending.

Throughout America, state, county and municipal governments are faced with imploding tax revenues and lack the ability or political flexibility to cut services to a level commensurate with revenue flows. Both the Fed and the public sector are engaging in a reckless gamble; borrow like crazy in the hope that this overdose of economic stimulation will restore growth to the economy and normal tax revenues, leading to a decreased and sustainable level of public sector indebtedness.

If one believes that the policymakers running the Federal Reserve, Treasury and Federal government, the same architects of the Global Economic Crisis, are smart enough to now get everything right, perhaps we may escape the worst consequences of their turbo-charged fiscal and monetary policies. However, there are growing indications that global investors and the broader market are beginning to reach a far more sobering assessment.

In an interview with Bloomberg News, Bill Gross, co-chief investment officer of PIMCO (Pacific Investment Management Company) suggested that the coveted AAA credit rating U.S. government debt now benefits from will eventually be downgraded. "The markets are beginning to anticipate the possibility of a downgrade," Gross said.

China, the major purchaser of Treasuries and holder of $1 trillion of U.S. government debt, is already on record as expressing concern for the integrity of its American investments, and has begun actively exploring alternatives to the U.S. dollar as the primary global reserve currency. These moves by China are not based on fears of expropriation of its U.S. assets, but focuses on the specter of hyperinflation destroying much of the value of assets denominated in U.S. dollars. No doubt China's economic experts are well aware of the growing number of economists who are convinced that the U.S. will be unable to service its rapidly expanding debt burden without significant inflation. Inflation in monetary terms means the erosion of the intrinsic value of the American dollar.

What is most frightening about the policy moves being enacted by the Fed and Treasury is that their actions may not be a reckless gamble after all. They may have come to the conclusion that only hyperinflation will enable the United Sates to avoid national insolvency. In effect, they may be pursuing the exact opposite course undertaken by Paul Volcker in the early 1980's. If that is their prescription for the dire economic crisis confronting the U.S., then one must conclude that Ben Bernanke, Timothy Geithner and Larry Summers have learned nothing from history. Once the spigot of hyperinflation is tuned on, it becomes a cascading torrent that is almost impossible to switch off, and which in its wake inflicts inconceivable levels of economic, political and social devastation. Before it is too late, President Obama should put the brakes on his economic team's dangerous gamble with the haunting specter of hyperinflation. If he fails to act in time, a hellish prospect may be his economic and political legacy.

On Tuesday, the Telegraph's Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reports that China has warned a top member of the US Federal Reserve that it is increasingly disturbed by the Fed's direct purchase of US Treasury bonds:

Richard Fisher, president of the Dallas Federal Reserve Bank, said: "Senior officials of the Chinese government grilled me about whether or not we are going to monetise the actions of our legislature."

"I must have been asked about that a hundred times in China. I was asked at every single meeting about our purchases of Treasuries. That seemed to be the principal preoccupation of those that were invested with their surpluses mostly in the United States," he told the Wall Street Journal.

His recent trip to the Far East appears to have been a stark reminder that Asia's "Confucian" culture of right action does not look kindly on the insouciant policy of printing money by Anglo-Saxons.

Mr Fisher, the Fed's leading hawk, was a fierce opponent of the original decision to buy Treasury debt, fearing that it would lead to a blurring of the line between fiscal and monetary policy – and could all too easily degenerate into Argentine-style financing of uncontrolled spending.

However, he agreed that the Fed was forced to take emergency action after the financial system "literally fell apart".

Nor, he added was there much risk of inflation taking off yet. The Dallas Fed uses a "trim mean" method based on 180 prices that excludes extreme moves and is widely admired for accuracy.

"You've got some mild deflation here," he said.

The Oxford-educated Mr Fisher, an outspoken free-marketer and believer in the Schumpeterian process of "creative destruction", has been running a fervent campaign to alert Americans to the "very big hole" in unfunded pension and health-care liabilities built up by a careless political class over the years.

"We at the Dallas Fed believe the total is over $99 trillion," he said in February.

"This situation is of your own creation. When you berate your representatives or senators or presidents for the mess we are in, you are really berating yourself. You elect them," he said.

His warning comes amid growing fears that America could lose its AAA sovereign rating.

I doubt America will lose its AAA sovereign rating, but $99 trillion of unfunded liabilities can bring the world's biggest economy closer to that day of reckoning.

But not all Fed presidents fear inflation. Last Thursday, Boston Federal Reserve Bank President Eric Rosengren said the risk of deflation is currently more of a concern than inflation:

Between inflation and deflation, my concerns are currently more weighted toward deflation," Rosengren said in response to audience questions after giving a speech to the Worcester Economic Club.

He added that the size of the Fed's balance sheet -- which has more than doubled in the financial crisis -- was "not a situation we want to be in, it's a situation we need to be in" given the severity of the crisis.

Answering a separate question, Rosengren said that due to the global nature of the crisis "in the short-run it will be hard to have export-led growth."

Rosengren is not a voter in 2009 on the Federal Open Market Committee, the Fed's policy-setting panel.

Indeed, if you look around the world, you see that Japan, the U.K., and other countries are grappling with deflation.

So why is the U.S. bond market on edge? Isn't all this talk of hyperinflation absurd? The Financial Ninja is back and he writes that with each interest ticker higher, another "green shoot" dies:

"There isn't enough capital in the world to buy the new sovereign issuance required to finance the giant fiscal deficits that countries are so intent on running. There is simply not enough money out there," -Kyle Bass

FN: Giddy talk of "green shoots" has completely drowned out a more sober and rational assessment of the global situation. Random statistical noise in various minor economic indicators have over the past two months resulted in wild exclamations of "the worst is definitely over".

It most certainly is not.

With every major economy in the world attempting to solve this economic crisis with both loose monetary and fiscal policy, it was only a matter of time before the global credit markets would reach their limits.

These limits have almost been reached.

The long end of every curve of every major economy has been steadily climbing. The rate of change has now accelerated and interest rates on these important benchmarks have now reached "pre-crisis" levels. In a ZIRP world this is definitely a bad sign. Formerly respectable governments from the US to the UK have gone the "banana republic" route and started monetizing their debts in a desperate attempt to prevent long rates from rising, to no avail. A veritable tsunami of debit issuance now sits just over the horizon, waiting to dumped on a crippled and saturated global debt market.

The UK will eventually lose it's coveted triple 'AAA' rating and the US cannot be far behind. Rising rates will drag everything from mortgage rates to credit card rates higher. Everything from residential and commercial real estate to businesses will feel the pain of higher borrowing costs. The central banks of the world have no more real options left. They've lowered the rates they control to zero and have flooded the financial system with liquidity. Their balance sheets are now swollen with toxic assets and outright debt monetization won't bring rates down.

The ECONOMPICDATA blog asks, Can we inflate ourselves out of this mess?, and concludes
Thus, the concern I have is that inflation won't be driven through via wage increases (where at least workers salaries are keeping up), but by a spike in the price of commodities. If inflation concerns = dollar concerns = commodity spike, then that impossible stagflation may be possible once again.

We may be in the early stages of asset inflation in stocks and commodities. It's too early to tell, but it is worth keeping in mind that asset inflation can transpire as liquidity makes its way through the financial system.

Finally, writing in the Asia Times, Henry C K Liu writes that liquidity is drowning the meaning of 'inflation':

The conventional terms of inflation and deflation are no longer adequate for describing the overall monetary effect of excess liquidity recently released by the US Federal Reserve, the nation's central bank, to deal with the year-long credit crunch.

This is because the approach adopted by the Treasury and the Fed to deal with a financial crisis of unsustainable debt created by excess liquidity is to inject more liquidity in the form of both new public debt and newly created money into the economy and to channel it to debt-laden institutions to reflate a burst debt-driven asset price bubble.

The Treasury does not have any power to create new money. It has to borrow from the credit market, thus shifting private debt into public debt. The Fed has the authority to create new money. Unfortunately, the Fed's new money has not been going to consumers in the form of full employment with rising wages to restore fallen demand, but instead is going only to debt-infested distressed institutions to allow them to deleverage from toxic debt. Thus deflation in the equity market (falling share prices) has been cushioned by newly issued money, while aggregate wage income continues to fall to further reduce aggregate demand.

Falling demand deflates commodity prices, but not enough to restore demand because aggregate wages are falling faster. When financial institutions deleverage with free money from the central bank, the creditors receive the money while the Fed assumes the toxic liability by expanding its balance sheet. Deleverage reduces financial costs while increasing cash flow to allow zombie financial institutions to return to nominal profitability with unearned income and while laying off workers to cut operational cost. Thus we have financial profit inflation with price deflation in a shrinking economy.

What we will have going forward is not Weimar Republic-type price hyperinflation, but a financial profit inflation in which zombie financial institutions turn nominally profitable in a collapsing economy. The danger is that this unearned nominal financial profit is mistaken as a sign of economic recovery, inducing the public to invest what remaining wealth they still hold, only to lose more of it at the next market meltdown, which will come when the profit bubble bursts.

Hyperinflation is fatal because hedging against it causes market failures to destroy wealth. Normally, when markets are functioning, unhedged inflation favors debtors by reducing the value of liabilities they owe to creditors. Instead of destroying wealth, unhedged inflation merely transfers wealth from creditors to debtors. But with government intervention in the financial market, both debtors and creditors are the taxpayers. In such circumstances, even moderate inflation destroys wealth because there are no winning parties.

Debt denominated in fiat currency is borrowed wealth to be repaid later with wealth stored in money protected by monetary policy. Bank deleveraging with Fed new money cancels private debt at full face value with money that has not been earned by anyone, that is with no stored wealth. That kind of money is toxic in that the more valuable it is (with increased purchasing power to buy more as prices deflate), the more it degrades wealth because no wealth has been put into the money to be stored, thus negating the fundamental prerequisite of money as a storer of value.

This is not demand destruction because decline in demand is temporarily slowed by the new money. Rather, it is money destruction as a restorer of value while it produces a misleading and confusing effect on aggregate demand.

Thinking about the value of any real asset (gold, oil, and so forth) in money (dollar) terms is misleading. The correct way is to think about the value of the money (dollars) in asset (gold, oil) terms, because assets (gold, oil, and so on) are wealth. The Fed can create money, but it cannot create wealth.

Central bankers are savvy enough to know that while they can create money, they cannot create wealth. To bind money to wealth, central bankers must fight inflation as if it were a financial plague. But the first law of growth economics states that to create wealth through growth, some inflation needs to be tolerated.

The solution then is to make the working poor pay for the pain of inflation by giving the rich a bigger share of the monetized wealth created via inflation, so that the loss of purchasing power from inflation is mostly borne by the low-wage working poor and not by the owners of capital, the monetary value of which is protected from inflation through low wages. Thus the working poor loses in both boom times and bust times.

Inflation is deemed benign by monetarism as long as wages rise at a slower pace than asset prices. The monetarist iron law of wages worked in the industrial age, with the resultant excess capacity absorbed by conspicuous consumption of the moneyed class, although it eventually heralded in the age of revolutions. But the iron law of wages no longer works in the post-industrial age in which growth can only come from mass demand management because overcapacity has grown beyond the ability of conspicuous consumption of a few to absorb in an economic democracy.

That has been the basic problem of the global economy for the past three decades. Low wages even in boom times have landed the world in its current sorry state of overcapacity masked by unsustainable demand created by a debt bubble that finally imploded in July 2007. The whole world is now producing goods and services made by low-wage workers who cannot afford to buy what they make except by taking on debt on which they eventually will default because their low income cannot service it.

All the stimulus spending by all governments perpetuates this dysfunctionality. There will be no recovery from this dysfunctional financial system. Only reform toward full employment with rising wages will save this severely impaired economy.

How can that be done? Simple. Make the cost of wage increases deductible from corporate income tax and make the savings from layoffs taxable as corporate income.

I agree with Henry Liu, unless we get wage increases across all OECD nations, I wouldn't count on a sustained global economic recovery, or on the hyperinflation we've seen in the past. But asset bubbles and another market meltdown look inevitable as excess liquidity finds its way into the global financial system. When this happens, don't say nobody predicted it. You've been warned.

[May 12, 2009] Guest Post: Is Inflation Inevitable?

Neo-classical approach is not very convincing.

Submitted by Leo Kolivakis, publisher of Pension Pulse.


I want to follow-up on my last comment on the "W" recovery because it is absolutely critical for policymakers and investors to understand the arguments on both sides of the inflation/ deflation debate. I will make this post considerably shorter than the previous one, but there is plenty to cover.

First, we begin by looking at the latest quarterly review by Van R. Hoisington and Lacy H. Hunt of Hoisington Investment Management.

[Note: Click here to view all previous comments and here for a profile of Hoisington Investment Management.]

Hoisington Investment Management offers one of the best quarterly economic reviews on the internet. Their latest quarterly comment focuses on inflation/ deflation. They begin by stating:

Over the next decade, the critical element in any investment portfolio will be the correct call regarding inflation or its antipode, deflation. Despite near term deflation risks, the overwhelming consensus view is that "sooner or later" inflation will inevitably return, probably with great momentum.

This inflationist view of the world seems to rely on two general propositions. First, the unprecedented increases in the Fed's balance sheet are, by definition, inflationary. The Fed has to print money to restore health to the economy, but ultimately this process will result in a substantially higher general price level. Second, an unparalleled surge in federal government spending and massive deficits will stimulate economic activity. This will serve to reinforce the reflationary efforts of the Fed and lead to inflation.

These propositions are intuitively attractive. However, they are beguiling and do not stand the test of history or economic theory. As a consequence, betting on inflation as a portfolio strategy will be as bad a bet in the next decade as it has been over the disinflationary period of the past twenty years when Treasury bonds produced a higher total return than common stocks. This is a reminder that both stock and Treasury bond returns are sensitive to inflation, albeit with inverse results.

Does this get your attention? It certainly got mine. Let's read on:
..., let's assume for the moment that inflation rises immediately. With unemployment widespread, wages would seriously lag inflation. Thus, real household income would decline and truncate any potential gain in consumer spending.

....

Inflation will not commence until the Aggregate Demand (AD) Curve shifts outward sufficiently to reach the part of the Aggregate Supply (AS) curve that is upward sloping. The AS curve is perfectly elastic or horizontal when substantial excess capacity exists. Excess capacity causes firms to cut staff, wages and other costs. Since wage and benefit costs comprise about 70% of the cost of production, the AS curve will shift outward, meaning that prices will be lower at every level of AD.

Therefore, multiple outward shifts in the Aggregate Demand curve will be required before the economy encounters an upward sloping Aggregate Supply Curve thus creating higher price levels. In our opinion such a process will take well over a decade.

And on the record expansion of the Fed's balance sheet:
In the past year, the Fed's balance sheet, as measured by the monetary base, has nearly doubled from $826 billion last March to $1.64 trillion, and potentially larger increases are indicated for the future. The increases already posted are far above the range of historical experience. Many observers believe that this is the equivalent to printing money, and that it is only a matter of time until significant inflation erupts. They recall Milton Friedman's famous quote that "inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon."

[Note: On that last point, read Alan Meltzer's New York Times op-ed article, Inflation Nation.]

These gigantic increases in the monetary base (or the Fed's balance sheet) and M2, however, have not led to the creation of fresh credit or economic growth. The reason is that M2 is not determined by the monetary base alone, and GDP is not solely determined by M2. M2 is also determined by factors the Fed does not control. These include the public's preference for checking accounts versus their preference for holding currency or time and saving deposits and the bank's needs for excess reserves.

These factors, beyond the Fed's control, determine what is known as the money multiplier. M2 is equal to the base times the money multiplier. Over the past year total reserves, now 50% of the monetary base, increased by about $736 billion, but excess reserves went up by nearly as much, or about $722 billion, causing the money multiplier to fall.

Thus, only $14 billion, or a paltry 1.9% of the massive increase of total reserves, was available to make loans and investments. Not surprisingly, from December to March, bank loans fell 5.4% annualized. Moreover, in the three months ended March, bank credit plus commercial paper posted a record decline.

On the surge of M2, Hoisington and Hunt write:
M2 has increased by over a 14% annual rate over the past six months, which is in the vicinity of past record growth rates. Liquidity creation or destruction, in the broadest sense, has two components. The first is influenced by the Fed and its allies in the banking system, and the second is outside the banking system in what is often referred to as the shadow banking system.

The equation of exchange (GDP equals M2 multiplied by the velocity of money or V) captures this relationship. The statement that all the Fed has to do is print money in order to restore prosperity is not substantiated by history or theory. An increase in the stock of money will only lead to a higher GDP if V, or velocity, is stable. V should be thought of conceptually rather than mechanically. If the stock of money is $1 trillion and total spending is $2 trillion, then V is 2. If spending rises to $3 trillion and M2 is unchanged, velocity then jumps to 3.

While V cannot be observed without utilizing GDP and M, this does not mean that the properties of V cannot be understood and analyzed. The historical record indicates that V may be likened to a symbiotic relationship of two variables. One is financial innovation and the other is the degree of leverage in the economy. Financial innovation and greater leverage go hand in hand, and during those times velocity is generally above its long-term average of 1.67 (Chart 4, above, click to enlarge).

Velocity was generally below this average when there was a reversal of failed financial innovation and deleveraging occurred. When innovation and increased leveraging transpired early in the 20th century, velocity was generally above the long term average. After 1928 velocity collapsed, and remained below the average until the early 1950s as the economy deleveraged.

From the early 1950s through 1980 velocity was relatively stable and never far from 1.67 since leverage was generally stable in an environment of tight financial regulation. Since 1980, velocity was well above 1.67, reflecting rapid financial innovation and substantially greater leverage. With those innovations having failed miserably, and with the burdensome side of leverage (i.e. falling asset prices and income streams, but debt remaining) so apparent, velocity is likely to fall well below 1.67 in the years to come, compared with a still high 1.77 in the fourth quarter of 2008.

Thus, as the shadow banking system continues to collapse, velocity should move well below its mean, greatly impairing the efficacy of monetary policy. This means that M2 growth will not necessarily be transferred into higher GDP. For example, in Q4 of 2008 annualized GDP fell 5.8% while M2 expanded by 15.7%. The same pattern appears likely in Q1 of this year

The highly ingenious monetary policy devices developed by the Bernanke Fed may prevent the calamitous events associated with the debt deflation of the Great Depression, but they do not restore the economy to health quickly or easily. The problem for the Fed is that it does not control velocity or the money created outside the banking system.

Washington policy makers are now moving to increase regulation of the banks and nonbank entities as well. This is seen as necessary as a result of the excessive and unwise innovations of the past ten or more years. Thus, the lesson of history offers a perverse twist to the conventional wisdom. Regulation should be the tightest when leverage is increasing rapidly, but lax in the face of deleveraging.

Hoisington and Hunt then discuss how massive increases in government debt will weaken the private economy,"thereby hindering rather than speeding the recovery."

They end their quarterly review by stating that bonds still offer exceptional value:

Since the 1870s, three extended deflations have occurred--two in the U.S. from 1874-94 and from 1928 to 1941, and one in Japan from 1988 to 2008. All these deflations occurred in the aftermath of an extended period of "extreme over indebtedness," a term originally used by Irving Fisher in his famous 1933 article, "The Debt-Deflation Theory of Great Depressions."

Fisher argued that debt deflation controlled all, or nearly all, other economic variables. Although not mentioned by Fisher, the historical record indicates that the risk premium (the difference between the total return on stocks and Treasury bonds) is also apparently controlled by such circumstances. Since 1802, U.S. stocks returned 2.5% per annum more than Treasury bonds, but in deflations the risk premium was negative.

In the U.S. from 1874-94 and 1928-41, Treasury bonds returned 0.9% and 7% per annum, respectively, more than common stocks. In Japan's recession from 1988-2008, Treasury bond returns exceeded those on common stocks by an even greater 8.4%. Thus, historically, risk taking has not been rewarded in deflation. The premier investment asset has been the long government bond (Table 1, below, click to enlarge).

This table also speaks to the impact of massive government deficit spending on stock and bond returns. In the U.S. from 1874-94, no significant fiscal policy response occurred. The negative consequences of the extreme over indebtedness were allowed to simply burn out over time. Discretionary monetary policy did not exist then since the U.S. was on the Gold Standard.

The risk premium was not nearly as negative in the late 19th century as it was in the U.S. from 1928-41 and in Japan from 1988-2008 when the government debt to GDP ratio more than tripled in both cases. In the U.S. 1874-94, at least stocks had a positive return of 4.4%. In the U.S. 1928-41 and in Japan in the past twenty years, stocks posted compound annual returns of negative 2.4% and 2.3%, respectively.

Therefore on a historical basis, U.S. Treasury bonds should maintain its position as the premier asset class as the U.S. economy struggles with declining asset prices, overindebtedness, declining income flows and slow growth.


Finally, the Financial Times' view of the day asks, Is Inflation inevitable?:

There is a growing belief in financial markets that uncontrollable inflation is inevitable, but that view is wrong, argues Dominic Konstam, interest rate strategist at Credit Suisse.

Nor are we heading towards a prolonged depression and deflation, he believes.

"A more plausible scenario is a mildly deflationary middle way with positive nominal growth. We can think of this as Grandma Goldilocks," he says.

This is a reference to the late 1990s, when market conditions were deemed just right – not too hot and not too cold – because real growth was high, but inflation low. "A decade later, Goldilocks may not be quite dead but just a lot older," he says.

Mr Konstam believes growth is likely to be relatively subdued in the next few years, driven by fiscal stimulus, while real interest rates will remain high. He believes consumers will be spending less and saving more, exerting significant downside pressure on inflation. There will be plenty of excess capacity in the economy. "The output gap is very large and forewarns of downward pressure on prices to come," he says.

What does this mean for financial markets? "If we're right, [10-year Treasury] bond yields aren't going to zero, but they're going to stay low for a while. We're not going to 4 per cent anytime soon. Stocks may not make new lows and they will surely be capped to the upside."

My last two comments on the inflation/ deflation debate provide you with some of the forces shaping inflation expectations.

What will be the end result? Think about it as two huge tidal waves headed for each other. They might cancel each other out, but chances are that one will dominate the other and after reading Hoisington's quarterly review, I have an eerie feeling deflation will swamp inflation.

If deflation does prevail, that spells trouble for pension funds that are heavily exposed to stocks and inflation-sensitive assets. They undertook a giant experiment that will likely end up costing future generations.

After reading this comment, do you still believe there is a bubble in bonds?

More on this topic (What's this?)

Inflation, stagflation or deflation? (StockWeb, 5/10/09)

Rupert Murdoch Says Economy "Weak; Danger Of Great Inflation" (Zero Hedge, 4/27/09)

The Madness Of King Market (Zero Hedge, 5/6/09)

19 comments:

Reino Ruusu said...
It just goes to show that liquidity is not the limiting factor. Solvency, of both banks and their customers, is the limiting factor now.

At the moment, they could probably increase the base money without limit. All that cash would just sit in the banks.

What they should do is print a lot of money, now that is seems to be possible to do so without adverse effects, and then set the reserve requirements to a whole lot higher level. That way we would have the system, when it finally recovers, on a healthy liquidity-constrained basis.

After that, they should let the markets handle the price of money, and focus instead on keeping the money supply aligned with the overall size of the economy.

mmckinl said...
Great post ...

Looks to be a long road ahead ...

I would also point out that each time a recovery seems to appear oil moves right up ...I agree with the entire post but with the added caveat that a peak oil scenario is in play as well ... If this scenario happens sooner rather than later the world will be looking at stagflation and further economic contraction ... the exact consequences related to the size and duration of the spike in oil prices ...

biofuel said...
I think that at present inflation (upward spiraling increases in BOTH wages and prices) or deflation is ultimately a political dilemma, as either one can be engineered. However, inflation, while not good for anyone, would eat away the gains of the wealthy and asset holders that they have accumulated over the past several decades. The Fed and Treasury create enough money to replace money that have been created and lost by the banks. The banks are expected to earn their way out of the hole and presumably re-pay. But what does that mean "earn their way out"? It means extracting a pound of flesh from the population through high interest rates, commodity speculation, forcing companies into bankruptcies to collect on CDS. At the same time, the so-called "stimulus" amounted to roughly nothing: no investment in innovation and job creation and retention. On the latter point, we are being constantly warned of the dangers of protectionism. The wealth holders will not allow inflation to occur, the brunt of the recession will be born by the middle classes: the taxpayers, employees, borrowers, consumers and retirees. The next few years will feel and look like a twilight zone, like being a can.
Brick said...
The Fed could induce inflation by printing billions and giving each American 1 million dollars. They will not and they will be extremely tentative with their QE because they are relying on creditors of the US keeping their good faith in the US bonds and currency. You can easily get out of control inflation by over doing the fiscal stimulus and racking up too much debt so that other countries start to take a dim view of your currency. There is a very good reason why the bank of England said to Gordon Brown, enough demonstrate how you are going to get your fiscal house in order and it is the same reason that the IMF is saying the same thing to the US.

At the moment the US does look like going toward deflation and there is little that the FED can do about those things outside of its control. There are however tipping points, triggered by either borrowing too much money or printing too much money that can flip things into an inflationary environment. The mistake that Hoisington Investment seems to be making is of looking at the US economy in isolation from the rest of the world. My worry is that the FED can not do enough to prevent deflation and congress will force the FED and Treasury to ratchet up their actions to such an extent that one of the tipping points will occur. Having a reserve currency means the US can do a lot more than other countries but the scope is not unlimited and testing those limits would most likely be unwise.

frances snoot said...
"Therefore, on an historical basis, US Treasuries should maintain its position as the premier asset class..." Was the writer channeling Ben Bernanke? Isn't US hubris stinking great?

Go right ahead, 'deflationistas', plough into US Treasuries while the market across the ocean in the UK mirrors the US failed market. Gordon Brown and Obama would be proud! What's money? It will be worth more every day, right?

See Martin Hennecke, Tyche Investments, for some real commentary.

wintermute said...
I agree with Brick. The US is not a closed system. If the dollar declines against external currencies then commodity prices feed directly into price inflation. Oil is the primary consideration.

Be wary about the "can't have price inflation without wage inflation" argument. Zimbabwe recently printed their currency to destruction with unemployment at 80%. Wages was not enough of a brake on inflation there.

rootless cosmopolitan said...
What is the rational to use M2 in the equation of exchange in the analysis? I suspect M2 accounts only for a fraction of all the credit money in the system. If using a much broader measure of money (What would be the right measure? All the credit created?) is more adequate and we enter a period of strong debt deflation, i.e. the amount of money in the system actually decreases, even if printed base money increases, a much larger increase in the velocity of money will be needed to compensate for the decrease in money and to trigger inflation.

rc

Stephen said...
The Hoisington analysis seems to be based upon neo-classical economic thinking, which is not always valid. For example, in 1934 the inflation rate was a positive 3.5%, yet there was probably still substantial excess capacity. So comparing demand and supply does not always work.

The word velocity is defined in terms of two other variables. It is not an independent variable. All of that discussion section is an attempt to find meaning in what is just a definition. Typical of the weaknesses of neo-classical economics.

Major inflation could easily occur if the dollar were to drop substantially in value. We do not live in a closed economic system. There is no necessary conflict between inflation and unemployment and poverty. Consider events in some third world countries in recent decades, and the German experience after WWII.

Some inflationists argue that the increase in money supply will eventually lead to inflation, with a time lag of a few years that assumes some economic recovery first. The Hosington analysis also seems to ignore this time delay effect. Others have pointed out that inflation is sometimes a psychological rather then money phenomenon; it happens when people believe it will happen.

I still do not really understand money. I still have no opinion on whether inflation or deflation will develop, and the neo-classical analysis presented did not really help me.

Leo Kolivakis said...
Stephen,

The problem is that once deflation grips the U.S. and global economy, it is like a virus that constantly mutates and is very hard to cure.

The Fed knows this. They also know that deflation will wreak havoc on the banking sytem which is why they will keep rates extremely low for a very long time.

Importantly, the Fed would rather err on the side of inflation than risk getting mired in a deflationary spiral.

Some of you have commented that the U.S. is an open economy and that the U.S. dollar will tumble, thus causing inflation. Be careful here because currency movements are all about expected shifts in growth and real interest rates.

If traders expect the U.S. to lead global economic growth and higher rates to start in the U.S., then the greenback will slowly gain relative to other major currencies over the next few years.

Also, the Chinese will continue to fund the U.S. current account deficit as long as they have to. Their exports just plummeted and they need U.S. consumers to start consuming again.

But watch developments in China very closely because if they decelerate further, they might devalue their currency and flood the world with cheap goods again, which is deflationary.

Let's not forget there are powerful deflationary forces out there: high consumer indebtedness, banks and shadow banks that are cutting leverage and lending, the internet, an ageing population in Europe and Japan and baby boomers in the U.S. who are increasingly worried about their retirement (and hence saving more).

And then there are mature pension funds that are shifting their asset allocation to buy more bonds.

All this to say that I am not convinced that inflation is inevitable and maybe the big surprise of the next decade will be how bonds outperform stocks.

Stay tuned, macroeconomics just got a whole lot more interesting!

Regards,

Leo

Harlem Dad said...
Leo,

> Stay tuned, macroeconomics just got a
> whole lot more interesting!

Now there's an understatement.

I used to think the words "Pension" and "Pulse" were diametrically opposed.

Now, they're Cliffhangers!

Great post.

Tim in Sugar Hill

P.S. I'm thinking of changing my moniker from Harlem Dad to Predatory Saver.

VG Chicago said...
I am looking forward to selling my gold at $10,000 an ounce. :)

Failing that, I'm looking forward to buying a fancy condo on 5th Ave for 100k cash. :)

Vinny GOLDberg

Doc Holiday said...
Inflation helps stimulate growth and this is the heart of The Bernanke/Frankenstein Clone, i.e, if we inflate and ramp up prices, we can stimulate production, which will cause employment to increase, and thus robots, I mean people in our society will have jobs to help put food on their families.

As many will recall, output by producers increases when prices rise and thus it simply makes sense to help rocket gas prices back towards $5.00 per gallon and to help wheat and other basic foods shoot as high as possible, because this will be good for the global corporations that need to make profits to make up for the recent loss of several Trillions in bad bets they made at the unregulated casino.

Once we get these corporate engines back up and running at high speed, we can then encourage robots, I mean production workers to spend their capital on homes that will also need to increase in price, so that they will have places to park their new SUVs, which allow them to buy $7.00 cups of coffee, and so on and so on.

I feel like Roubini here, but this too has passed, but I would like an opportunity to also add that in order for dividends to be increased at financial institutions, fees will have to increase and greater profit margins will need to be engaged, which will mean greater efficiency through the use of unregulated derivatives, i.e. global financial networks will have to pool resources to create scale and leverage to take over the world and to thus make sure that our robots are burdened by another tsunami wave of cheap and easy credit.

I need a plaster cast...

tabak47 said...
Therein lies the problem. History suggests that the FED will again be late to the game. Ask yourself, what are the odds that they will be able to pull the money out of the system before inflation gets out of control? Damned if they do and damned if they don't but I believe they will take inflation over deflation any day of the week.
Flow5 said...
income velocity (Vi) is a contrived figure (Vi = Nominal GDP/M). The product of MVI is obviously nominal GDP. So where does that leave us? In an economic sea without a rudder or an anchor.

the "monetary base" is not a base for the expansion of money & credit

is inflation coming???? it is mathematically impossible to miss and economic forecast

economics deserves to be called the dismal science

Hugh said...
Given that the Fed's monetarist policies have failed, that quantitative easing went nowhere, what relevance is there to the real economy in equations based on monetary models?

I think we are already in a period of deflation. Its speed would be even greater than it is if the government were not trying insanely to re-inflate busted bubbles. BTW peak oil and supply-demand have nothing to do with the current rise in oil prices. This is the same speculative game we saw last year funded by taxpayer dollars going to BINO banks, like Goldman and Morgan Stanley.

I agree with those who say we need to look at the US economy as it fits into the world economy.

The article has a significant tell in that its only reference to indebtedness is to government debt. But it is really the overall high debt load not just the government but the whole country has that is the real killer.

Debt deflation may be what is happening now in some sectors but it hard to see how inflation more generally down the road is not going to be a significant part in how those debts are going to be dealt with.

Leo Kolivakis said...
Hugh,
I would be careful to claim outright that monetary policy and QE have totally failed. The effects typically show up with a lag of 6 to 12 months. However, you are right, deflation has already arrived in some asset classes like housing and the stock market, both way off their peaks.

Q1 foreclosures hit a record in the U.S., which is not supporting the thesis that housing has stabilized in any way, shape or form.

We need to see housing stabilize and unemployment stop creeping up before we can claim things have truly stabilized.

Will the U.S. inflate away its debts? They are sure trying hard but this is not going to be easy.

Meanwhile, let's not forget that the shadow banking system is just a shell of what it used to be with significantly less leverage as both investment banks and hedge funds trim it down.

Deflation will roil private equity and commercial real estate. The only true hedge against deflation is government bonds.

I will say it again, if inflation does eventually become the problem, it could be particularly nasty, because governments will be far too slow and timid about taking the hard decisions needed to remove liquidity as aggressively as they are currently expanding it.

Regards,

Leo

jim said...
the commodity index, adjusted for inflation is at a 200 year low. Let me say that again, the commodity index adjusted for inflation is at a 200 year low. Do people really think it will go lower?

Finished goods start with commodities as the basic inputs in many goods. Mines that take commodities out of the ground are coming up against cost constraints that the price isn't supportive of further mining operations going forward. Already in gold you see declining mine production yearly due to the low price depressing exploration and development of new fields and the fields they do know of generally do not support development at current prices. This is occurring in other types of mines as well.

Time will tell who's right on inflation. However, I do have my money where my belief is - 100% gold in etfs, miners, and physical.

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2009-05-12. "I want to follow-up on my last comment on the "W" recovery because it is absolutely critical for policymakers and investors to understand the arguments on both sides of the inflation/ deflation debate." ...
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Financial Armageddon

Changing Sides

There was a time when I disagreed with the inflationistas and the gold bugs. In my view, they did not anticipate the deflationary flash flood that would rip through the global economy once history's biggest credit bubble began to burst, and they failed to understand that this was just the set-up needed to transform the last of the allegedly prudent policymakers into full-on Mugabes-in-the-making.

Now, though, as some deflationistas grow ever more confident that we are set for a replay of what took place 80 years ago, I am in the process of switching sides. As I see it, the combination of intellectual hubris and a relentless determination by central bankers and politicians to beat the GD 2.0 rap, as well as an increasingly contagious urge to embrace all manner of fiscal insanity, suggest we are nearing the point where people will begin to lose faith in those who control the pursestrings -- and the printing presses.

As that occurs, I believe the odds are good that we will see an inflationary episode like the one described in the following 321gold column, "Cycle Revisited," by Howard Ruff, editor of The Ruff Times.

John Williams publishes the Shadow Government Statistics newsletter (www.shadowstats.com). He is an amazing professional economist with a great grasp of the real economy. He and I have arrived at the same conclusions about almost everything in the economy, despite the fact that we approach it from totally different directions: me from the fundamentals, and he from a real technical and numbers point of view.

I am now in John's home in Oakland, California, looking past the government numbers to get his views on the world as it really is. Shadow Government Statistics reconstructs published government statistics the accurate way we used to do it that reflects reality, rather than the way these numbers are now manipulated, and comes up with different conclusions about the economy, such as the Consumer Price Index (CPI), and other revealing areas published by government.

I trust John's numbers because the government has been manipulating and restating these numbers for purely political purposes.

* * * * *

HJR: John is it necessary to recreate government statistics to show what you feel is reality, and how have you recreated them? I'd like some examples.

JW: Howard, I've been a consulting economist for about 27 years. I found early on that to make meaningful forecasts I had to have accurate information. It was evident early on that there were big inaccuracies in government reporting I surveyed at a convention of the National Association of Business Economists. Some economists have to make real-world forecasts, as opposed to economists who are employed by Wall Street to come to up with happy stories to encourage people to buy stocks and bonds.

I asked them what they considered the quality of government statistics to be. Most thought the numbers were very poor quality. Political manipulation tends to increase in election years.

I talked to the chief economist for a large retail chain, and he told me that the retail sales reports were absolutely no good, but he thought the money-supply numbers were pretty good.

Next was an economist for a major bank. He said the money-supply numbers were not very good, but he thought the retail-sales numbers are pretty good. The more someone knew about a given statistic, the greater the problems there were with the numbers.

Over time public perceptions increasingly varied from what the government was reporting because government kept changing methodologies, and usually tended to build an upside bias to the economic statistics of unemployment or the GDP – the broad measure of economies – and a downside bias in the Consumer Price Index, a popular measure of inflation.

When it became popularly used in auto-union contracts after WWII, the concept of the Consumer Price Index was fairly simple. But they wanted to measure changes in the cost of living, and they needed to maintain a constant standard of living. That was the traditional definition; the way the CPI had been designed.

That held pretty much in place until we got into the 1990s when Alan Greenspan and Michael Boskin, the head of The Council of Economic Advisors for the first Bush Administration, started talking about how the CPI really overstated inflation. The rationale was that when steak goes up in price, people buy more hamburger instead of steak; therefore you should reflect the substitution in the CPI.

That is not the concept of a constant standard of living; it is the concept of a declining standard of living that has no value to anyone other than politicians in Washington. They succeeded in reducing the reported level of inflation, which reduced cost-of-living adjustments in Social Security checks. Because of the changes in the 1990s, our Social Security checks are about half what they should be!

There have been different definitions over time. The government itself publishes six levels of unemployment from what they call "U-1" through "U-6." The popularly followed measure is called "U-3." Right now they say it is around 8.6 percent.

The broadest measure published by the government deletes "the discouraged workers" and people who are marginally attached to the economy. This is close to 16 percent. The key there is the "discouraged workers," people who consider themselves to be unemployed. They know whether or not they have jobs. The Discouraged Worker hasn't been out looking for work because there are no jobs to be had in his area.

Up until 1994, those discouraged workers wouldn't have to specify how long they had been discouraged. After that, if they were discouraged, the government wouldn't add them. I add them into my numbers, and it totals around 20 percent unemployment.

The popular number for the Great Depression is 25 percent unemployment rate and 34 percent among non-farm workers. We are mostly a non-farm economy.

HJR: During the Bush Administration, we heard all the happy talk about how well the economy was doing because of the cuts in tax rates. Is that really just happy talk or was the economy really doing well under Bush?

JW: We actually had a pretty bad recession in the early'90s, longer and deeper than popularly reported. Near the end of Bush's first term at the time of the re-election race, a senior Commerce Department officer talked with a senior executive in the computer industry and asked him to boost the reporting of computer sales to the Bureau of Economic Analysis, which prepares the GDP report. They did; it boosted the GDP, the broad measure of the economy, and George Bush touted the strong economy. But some felt he was out of touch with reality.

The average guy has a pretty good sense of reality and knows whether or not economic conditions are good, or if inflation is up or down, which is why people have a difficult time accepting the government's numbers. They have gotten so far away from common experience that people just don't find them credible.

In terms of the GDP, clearly retail sales and industrial production were showing us a deepening recession long before the government reported it with the GDP. In fact, you didn't show a contraction in the GDP until the second quarter of 2008. Officially the recession, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research, started back in December, 2007. If the GDP numbers accurately reflected what was happening, it would have at least shown the contraction two or three quarters before that. Other indications show that the recession really began in late 2006.

HJR: Let me get to a practical issue. What kind of economic activity should we support? For example, the conservatives will say we should cut tax rates to boost the economy. What does your research show?

JW: Cutting taxes is always a good idea. The private sector can do more with the money than the government can. Right now we are in a deep and deepening recession which will probably be called "a depression" before it ends. By depression, I mean a ten-percent contraction in overall economic activity.

When the government is reasonably solid, it can cut taxes. It can even increase spending without disrupting the system.

Right now we have a system where with the money poured into the banking system, and the "stimulus" by way of spending and tax cuts, is on top of record deficits.

If you look at the real numbers on the deficits, based on numbers published by the federal government, we really should look at it how it used to be. In the late '70s, the ten biggest accounting firms and congress said they could design an accounting system where the government will report its books the same way a company does. They finally got that into effect in 2000. Since then, instead of running deficits in the range of a couple of billion dollars, on a Generally Accepted Accounting Principal (GAAP) basis, the deficit has averaged $4 trillion a year. It was over $5 trillion in 2008 and will top $8 trillion this year.

This is unsustainable! You could not raise taxes enough to bring that into balance. If you wanted to bring it into balance, you'd have to eliminate Social Security and Medicare payments. It can't be done.

HJR: Right now, Obama is spending money – I won't say like a drunken sailor, because a drunken sailor spends his own money – but he is throwing trillions of dollars at the economic downturn, assuming it will stimulate us out. My personal opinion is that they are only stimulating government growth, and some day the average person may get a job, but his employer will be Uncle Sam.

What is the end result of creating all this money and throwing it at the problem?

JW: It will not stimulate the economy. The cost of all this is inflation. We will see inflation levels not seen in our lifetime by as early as the end of this year. Eventually we will see liabilities of $65 trillion – more than four times U.S. GDP, more than global GDP. There will be a hyper inflation where the dollar becomes worthless, where the paper is worth more as wall paper than as currency.

HJR: They couldn't even use the money as toilet paper because it is a bad absorber of water. So we will have hyper-inflation. How can we protect the value of our assets, assuming that people have some discretionary money? Should they buy growth stocks because they are cheap, assuming "buy low, sell high?" Or are there better alternatives?

JW: We are headed into a hyper-inflationary depression that will become a Great Depression. When hyper inflation hits, it will disrupt the normal flow of commerce and turn it into a Great Depression.

What about paper assets based on the dollar? You want to get into something like gold or silver –physical gold or silver, not paper. Perhaps get some assets outside the dollar. It's a time to preserve your wealth and assets, not to start speculating on the stock market. There is a lot of volatility ahead. Over the long term, gold and silver are your best hedges.

HJR: That sounds like the familiar tune I've been singing for several years. I've been publishing for 33 years. About 11 of those years I have been bullish on gold and silver as investments. When I abandoned gold in the early '80s, I was excommunicated from the gold-bug church because I was supposed to stay faithful to gold, but then the metals weren't the right place to put your money. As a financial adviser, if I don't have subscribers in the right investments, they will lose money and not renew their subscription to The Ruff Times. So I have a financial interest in being right. Yogi Berra said, "It's déjà vu all over again." the same thing is happening that I saw in the '70s that drove the prices of gold and silver to unprecedented highs – only more so now. They are creating more money than they ever thought of creating back then. We are using words like "trillions," which we never used before. I'm not just looking at it as an investment and a place to make money. I am looking at it as a possible way to preserve the real value of your assets so you are not left destitute with a pile of worthless paper.

You showed me a display of Zimbabwe currency, where multi-billion dollar notes started out as $2-bill notes. We could face the same thing. The world is littered with worthless dead-paper currencies with an average life span of about 75 years. It's always the same: we make too much of it ever since we created paper currency with the printing press, and creating too much of it to buy votes, diminishing its value.

A subscriber who wrote to me recently asking me that if the government and the bankers can manipulate the price of gold and silver, so couldn't they do that for many years and gold and silver would go nowhere?

History doesn't record a single example when a society inflated the dominant currency even near the quantities we are creating dollars now without destroying its value. Gold and silver, not being anyone's debt or obligation, is where people ought to put their money.

I have been watching your work now for more than two years. I am amazed that you and I have arrived at the same conclusions from different sides of the street. I've learned a lot from your view of the numbers, and I'm a fundamentalist.

One reason I like you is because you agree with me. We like people who agree with us. Thanks so much for sharing your time and expertise with us.

JW: Thank you very much, Howard. I greatly appreciate the interview. I also appreciate your work. Indeed, we are in very broad and general agreement on where things are headed here. I have followed your work for many years; in fact, your writings back in the 1970s were part of my education as to the nature of the real world. Again, thank you, sir!

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[Apr 24, 2009] The Fed is now peddling inflation - MSN Money by Bill Fleckenstein

Apr 20, 2009 | MSN Money

If there's any chance we'll avoid a painful bout of rising prices, it won't be the Federal Reserve that saves us. Also: Chipping away at tech forecasts. [Related content: stocks, Intel, Federal Reserve, gold, Bill Fleckenstein]

If there were any doubts of the inflationary determination of the Federal Reserve the minutes of its Federal Open Market Committee meeting on March 17-18 should have put them to rest.

Not only did certain Federal Reserve heads think that inflation was "below desirable levels," they also had this to say:

"Even without a continuation of outright price declines, falling expectations of inflation would raise the real rate of interest and thus increase the burden of debt and further restrain the economy."

Behold the power of folks' expectations

That is really mind-boggling: the idea that even if prices don't decline, people's expectations that they might will somehow actually increase real interest rates. It is just nonsense on the part of the money printers who created all this carnage in the first place.

In fact, despite all the headlines that read "Worst crisis since the Depression," there seems to be very little deflation, other than in prices for assets such as homes and stocks (which don't constitute deflation to begin with).

Twin data points Wednesday offered examples:

Deflation? Don't hold your breath

So, if inflation, excepting food and energy, is not less than zero -- with the collapse in everything we have seen, and with capacity utilization where it is -- when will consumers see the benefit of the price deflation so many expect?

Obviously, that's a rhetorical question. Anyone who believes that the Fed is really going to take away the punch bowl at the right time and stop inflation anywhere down the road has not been paying attention for the past 20 years, at a minimum. (For more on this, read "If there's no inflation, why do we fight it?")

What lies beyond the Fed's meddling is gold. A recent article in the Financial Times summed up the bull case (though it wasn't the intent) as follows: "UBS, for example, calculates that the U.S. reserves of gold are so small, relative to the monetary base, that a price above $6,000 an ounce would be needed to reintroduce a gold standard. To implement that standard in Japan, China and the U.S., the price would be more than $9,000.

Moreover, right now few Western governments have any motive to even entertain the debate, given that inflation may soon seem the least bad way to tackle the current overhang of debt."

[Apr 20, 2009] Feldstein: Inflation is Looming

Martin Feldstein is worried about inflation

Inflation is looming on America's horizon, by Martin Feldstein, Commentary, Financial Times: ...The unprecedented explosion of the US fiscal deficit raises the spectre of high future inflation. According to the Congressional Budget Office, the president's budget implies a fiscal deficit of 13 per cent of gross domestic product in 2009 and nearly 10 per cent in 2010. Even with a strong economic recovery, the ratio of government debt to GDP would double to 80 per cent in the next 10 years.

There is ample historic evidence of the link between fiscal profligacy and subsequent inflation. But historic evidence and economic analysis also show that the inflationary effects can be avoided if the fiscal deficits are not accompanied by a sustained increase in the money supply and, more generally, by an easing of monetary conditions. ...

A fiscal deficit raises demand when the government increases its purchase of goods and services or, by lowering taxes, induces households to increase their spending. ... If the fiscal deficit is not accompanied by an increase in the money supply, the fiscal stimulus will raise short-term interest rates, blocking the increase in demand and preventing a sustained rise in inflation.

So the potential inflationary danger is that the large US fiscal deficit will lead to an increase in the supply of money. This inevitably happens in developing countries that do not have the ability to issue interest-bearing debt and must therefore finance their deficits by printing money. ...

[T]he large US fiscal deficits are being accompanied by rapid increases in the money supply and by even more ominous increases in commercial bank reserves that could later be converted into faster money growth. ...

The link between fiscal deficits and money growth is about to be exacerbated by "quantitative easing", in which the Fed will buy long-dated government bonds. While this may look like just a modified form of the Fed's traditional open market operations, it cannot be distinguished from a policy of directly monetising some of the government's newly created debt. Fortunately, the amount of debt being purchased in this way is still small relative to the total government borrowing.

The Fed is also creating a massive increase in liquidity by its policy of supplying credit directly to private borrowers. Although these credit transactions do not add to the measured fiscal deficit, the unprecedented Fed purchases of more than $1,000bn of private securities have led to the enormous $700bn increase in the excess reserves of the commercial banks. The banks now hold these as interest-bearing deposits at the Fed. But when the economy begins to recover, these reserves can be converted into new loans and faster money growth.

The deep recession means that there is no immediate risk of inflation. ... But when the economy begins to recover, the Fed will have to reduce the excessive stock of money and, more critically, prevent the large volume of excess reserves in the banks from causing an inflationary explosion of money and credit.

This will not be an easy task since the commercial banks may not want to exchange their reserves for the mountain of private debt that the Fed is holding and the Fed lacks enough Treasury bonds with which to conduct ordinary open market operations. It is surprising that the long-term interest rates do not yet reflect the resulting risk of future inflation.

The government budget constraint is:

(Government spending including interest on the debt) - (Taxes) =
(Change in the Money supply) + (Change in the Bond supply)

Or, more simply:

G - T = ΔM + ΔB

The left-hand side, government spending (G) - taxes (T), is the government deficit (surplus if the value is negative). The right-hand side shows the two ways of paying for the deficit, printing new money, ΔM, (the change in the money supply can raise prices) and borrowing from the public by issuing new bonds, ΔB (the change in debt can raise interest rates and lower growth).

Let's start with Feldstein's comments about developing countries. Suppose you are a developing country and you want to improve your country's growth rate, and you think the key is infrastructure spending. You run a deficit to accomplish this, fully intending to pay it back out of higher future growth (which may not actually happen).

But how will you pay for that spending on new infrastructure? You, as the dictator, could raise taxes but you are a poor country and the wealth and income base just isn't there to support a higher tax level. You could borrow the money, but once again the wealth level in your own country isn't high enough to allow that, so if you borrow, it will have to be from foreigners. But, unfortunately, there are some defaults in your country's recent past and the international community won't lend to you without restrictions that you just aren't willing to take on.

So once international credit dries up, becomes prohibitively expensive, or comes with too many restrictions, and if taxes cannot be raised enough, there is but one choice to pay for the infrastructure spending and the deficit it causes, print the money, and it's a choice developing countries often find themselves making. The result of these persistent deficits, then, is persistent growth in the money supply - month after month more money has to be printed to cover government operations - and the result is inflation.

Feldstein's point about quantitative easing monetizing debt can also be explained in terms of this equation. Under quantitative easing, the Fed prints new money, and uses it to purchase long-term government bonds. Thus, the right-hand side of the equation above is unchanged overall, but the money component gets larger while the bond component gets smaller as the Fed purchases government debt. (Note that the money supply also goes up if the Fed purchases private sector bonds rather than government bonds since new money has to be printed to pay for them, another one of Feldstein's points.)

Once we begin to recover, there are three ways to reduce the inflationary pressures from the growing money supply.

And speaking of health care reform, that's where the focus needs to be. The budget worries twenty years from now have little to do with the temporary stimulus measures we are taking today, going forward health care costs are the most important issue by far in terms of the budget, and everything else revolves around solving that problem.

So am I worried about inflation? Somewhat, particularly when I hear that the Fed's independence is likely to come under review by congress. Whatever doubts you have about the Fed's commitment and ability to keep inflation low in the future, I have little doubt that congress would choose to monetize the debt when faced with tough choices about how to solve a deficit problem (would congress have done what Volcker did?). I still have faith in the Fed, but as you can see from the government budget constraint above, what the Fed can do is dependent upon the actions of congress. If deficits persist, it could come down to a choice by the Fed to monetize the deficit - and risk inflation - or allow government debt to pile up and risk high interest rates. Volcker chose low inflation over high interest rates when confronted with a similar choice, but it's not completely clear to me at this point what this Fed will do in the same situation, and how much cooperation they can expect from congress in terms of reducing the deficit.

Posted by Mark Thoma on Sunday, April 19, 2009 at 01:08 PM in Economics, Fiscal Policy, Inflation, Politics

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[Apr 4, 2009] Inflation vs. Deflation

4/03/2009 | CalculatedRisk

It looks like the FDIC cancelled Friday ...

From Simon Johnson and James Kwak of Baseline Scenario writing in the WaPo: The Radicalization of Ben Bernanke

... Shortly after joining the Fed in 2002, Bernanke gave a speech describing how the Fed could prevent deflation, i.e., a general decline in prices. The key theme was that, in a pinch, the Fed could simply print more dollars -- for example, by buying long-term bonds on the market -- which reduces the value of each dollar in circulation and therefore raises the dollar price of goods and services. "Under a paper-money system," Bernanke explained, "a determined government can always generate higher spending and hence positive inflation." In a time of economic overconfidence, the discussion seemed largely academic. But it is now clear that Bernanke intends to follow through on it.
Tim Duy at Economist's View responds: Johnson and Kwak vs. Bernanke
The implicit assumption is that the Fed is expanding the money supply via a policy of quantitative easing with the explicit goal of raising inflation expectations. First off, as Bernanke said once again today, he does not describe policy as quantitative easing:
In pursuing our strategy, which I have called "credit easing," we have also taken care to design our programs so that they can be unwound as markets and the economy revive. In particular, these activities must not constrain the exercise of monetary policy as needed to meet our congressional mandate to foster maximum sustainable employment and stable prices.
Pay close attention to Bernanke's insistence that the Fed's liquidity programs are intended to be unwound. If policymakers truly intend a policy of quantitative easing to boost inflation expectations, these are exactly the wrong words to say. Any successful policy of quantitative easing would depend upon a credible commitment to a permanent increase in the money supply. Bernanke is making the opposite commitment - a commitment to contract the money supply in the future. Is this any way to boost inflation expectations? See also Paul Krugman:
In that case monetary policy can't get you there: once the interest rate hits zero, people will just hoard any additional cash – we're in the liquidity trap. The only way to make monetary policy effective once you're in such a trap, at least in this framework, is to credibly commit to raising future as well as current money supplies.
If Bernanke really intends to raise inflation expectations, he is making an elementary error by reiterating his intention to shrink the Fed's balance sheet in the future. The current increase in money supply is thus transitory and should not affect future expectations of inflation. I can't see him making such an elementary error, which suggests that Bernanke's word should be taken at face value; he intends policy to be "credit easing," not the oft-cited "quantitative easing."
It would seem the bigger concern in the short term is deflation, and I've been assuming the Fed was trying to raise inflation expectations - and I've been calling the Fed's policy "quantitative easing".

Dr. Duy writes:

Bottom line: I reiterate my concerns that the media and market participants are using the term "quantitative easing" too loosely. I understand that this complaint falls on largely deaf ears. If Bernanke is using quantitative easing to boost inflation expectations, then I think we need to seriously address the likely ineffectiveness of any such policy when Fed officials repeatedly promise to shrink the balance sheet in the future.
Mark Thoma at Economist's View has more: Inflation and the Fed
This is, in essence, a question about whether inflation expectations are anchored or not, and that is also the key question is this discussion of the odds of deflation by John Williams of the SF Fed. He argues that the previous decades can be broken into a recent time period in which expectations appear to be well-anchored, the time period 1993 through 2008 is cited in the linked discussion, and a time period in the late 1960s and the 1970s when inflation expectations do not appear to be anchored (based upon Orphanides and Williams 2005). The paper also notes that recent surveys of professional forecasters are consistent with anchored expectations.

But past history shows us that expectations can move from one state to the other, from untethered to tethered, and there's no reason that cannot happen again, but in the other direction. So here I agree with Martin Wolf, it's dependent upon the credibility of policymakers. So long as people believe that the Fed is committed to preventing an outburst of inflation, and that they are capable of carrying through on that commitment, expectations will remain well-anchored. But if people believe that that Fed's hands are tied because of the harm reducing inflation would bring to the real economy, an out of control deficit, or due to political considerations that force them to accept inflation they could and would battle otherwise, then we have a different situation and long-run inflation expectations will change accordingly.

I recommend the paper Professor Thoma linked to: The Risk of Deflation by John C. Williams, San Francisco Fed Director of Research
The evidence indicates that a substantial increase in slack can lead to deflation, but the depth and duration of the deflation depends on how well anchored inflation expectations are. Two policy implications can be drawn from this and other research on deflation. First, a central bank should take appropriate actions to stem the emergence of substantial slack in the economy and thereby reduce the risk of deflation. Second, it should clearly communicate its commitment to low positive rates of inflation. An example of such communication is the Federal Open Market Committee's recently released long-run inflation forecasts. Such words, backed by appropriate actions, reinforce the anchoring of inflation expectations and reduce the chances of a deflationary spiral.
I need to think about this.

[Apr 4, 2009] Greenspan: A once-in-a-century event

February 18, 2009 | The Mess That Greenspan Made

The condensed wisdom of former Fed chairman Alan Greenspan from this Bloomberg report on yesterday's gathering at the Economic Club of New York:

What we are currently going through is a once-in-a-century type of event. It will pass ... Given the Japanese experience of the 1990s, we need to assure that the repair of the financial system precedes the onset of any major fiscal stimulus.

To stabilize the banking system and restore normal lending, additional TARP funds will be required ... Banks are not going to increase their lending until they feel comfortable with the amount of capital they hold. That's not going to happen for a while.

Until we can stabilize the asset side of bank balance sheets, this crisis will not come to a close ... Unfortunately, the prospect of stable home prices remains many months in the future. Many forecasters project a decline in home prices of 10 percent or more from current levels.

Certainly, by any historical measure, world stock prices are cheap. But as history also counsels they could get a lot cheaper before they turn ... A rise in equity prices could help offset the impact of falling house prices.

The recent rise of long-term interest rates appears to be signaling market concerns about inflationary pressures. It could turn out to be the canary in the coal mine.

The regulatory structures, especially internationally, were way behind the curve ...
There is a general belief that somehow we can regulate very complex organizations, and we can't. What we've got to do is to try to make them more efficient, to put far more capital into these organizations.
I wonder if he gets weird looks these days from other economists.

[Mar 20, 2009] Guest Post- Road to Reflation-

March 20, 2009 | naked capitalism
No wonder pressure is mounting on the U.S. dollar. On the one hand you have incompetent politicians in Washington pandering to Wall Street and on the other you got Ben "the helicopter gambler" Bernanke, betting that inflation will remain at bay:
Before he was named chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, Ben Bernanke was one of the foremost scholars of the central bank's response to the Great Depression. It tells us much about his state of high anxiety that the Fed is injecting another $1 trillion into the economy by buying Treasuries and other government securities. Bernanke clearly believes this is not just another recession. And he's mindful that the Fed's biggest mistake in the Depression was to tighten credit, which worsened deflation of the 1930s.

But it's a gamble. The Fed's purchasing power is not made in a tree by elves. It comes from, essentially, printing more money. If the world's biggest danger is deflation, as Bernanke and a number of economists believe, then this action is wise. The trick to price stability is "reflation" not tight-fisted central banks. If conditions are different, however, it bakes serious inflation in the cake. Thus today's market gyrations, which at the moment have the dollar down, gold and oil up and stocks falling. This is less a fear of raging inflation, than a fear of uncertainty itself, to paraphrase FDR.

But the Fed is out of the conventional tools it has used in post-World War II recessions. Interest rates are virtually zero. So now it's a step into a risky undiscovered country. Among the risks is how our overseas creditors react if they believe this will dilute the value of their dollar-based assets, including Treasuries. Then there's the danger that Bernanke is creating yet another Fed-made bubble, with an even worse crash to follow. If it works, however, it may finally get credit moving. Stay tuned.

The Back Story: Moody's says it may downgrade $241 billion in securities backed by so-called jumbo mortgages. This is a pretty big deal because these are considered prime loans, as opposed to the risky subprime mortgages that began the bubble burst. Jumbos, mortgages usually larger than $417,000, go to borrowers with good credit, and they've been widely used in the Seattle area. The credit rating service obviously expects more defaults -- not unreasonable given rising joblessness. And who knows what scary creatures are hiding in those tranches.
I can only imagine what will happen if Moody's does downgrade those jumbo mortgages. More financial pain for everyone, including pension funds that are overexposed to alternative investments.

Speaking of alternative investments, the situation is getting uglier by the day. As hedge fund liquidations hit a record high, some are saying it's time to revisit hedge funds.

The head of investment strategy at Union Bancaire Privee (UBP) was quoted as saying on Thursday that the hedge fund industry could shrink by two thirds from its peak as market losses and a slough of redemptions take their toll:

Christophe Bernard told French language financial daily L'Agefi that hedge fund assets, which data show peaked at more than $2 trillion in early to mid 2008, could fall as low as $700 billion as investors seek out less risky climes amid continuing market turmoil.

Bernard is responsible for investment strategy at UBP, which at end 2007 was the world's second-largest investor in hedge funds with more than $53 billion invested in single funds and funds of funds. Data is not yet available for 2008.

Bernard also said UBP might cut about 10 percent of its staff of about 1,390, in line with the banking industry, through a combination of layoffs and early retirement.

A spokesman from UBP said half of the layoffs would be in Switzerland and half in the rest of the world.

Bernard said UBP would reduce its own hedge fund exposure by two thirds, and would restructure its range of funds of funds by the third quarter of 2009.

Last week, UBP said it would partially reimburse investors with exposure to Bernard Madoff's $65 billion fraud. Many invested either directly through UBP or had exposure via its fund of hedge funds products.

UBP said in the future it would only invest in funds with independent custodians, who hold the fund assets, and administrators, who calculate the value of those assets.

On Wednesday, a leading hedge fund manager said that the shakeout of the hedge funds industry could be over by June 2009, with nearly half of firms likely to shut up shop:

"The hedge fund bubble has popped and, unfortunately when any bubble pops, it's a painful process," said Ken Kinsey-Quick, head of multi-manager of hedge fund firm Thames River Capital.

"If half were to close down, I wouldn't be surprised. But the nice thing about hedge fund land is that things move very very quickly, it will probably be done and dusted by June," he continued

Hedge funds returns were a negative 19 percent last year, when investors pulled out a record $158.9 billion (113.86 billion pounds), according to data from Lipper.

Kinsey-Quick believes that only strong hedge fund models are likely to survive the financial meltdown.

"You will have only very robust models -- only the fittest will survive. But there is going to be some collateral damage. There will be some good players taken out," he said.

And he noted that the hedge fund industry was already adapting to meet the calls for greater scrutiny.

"Transparency has gone through the roof. Liquidity terms are beginning to match the liquidity of underlying assets," he said.

In private equity, firms are trying harder to please powerful investors as dollars for new commitments become harder to come by...

Hedge fund and private equity woes are also impacting commercial real estate, especially in London and Manhattan where deflation rolls on as apartment sales see a huge drop.

U.S. commercial real estate prices tumbled in January, Moody's said on Thursday, suggesting problems that began in housing have spread well beyond that sector;

Commercial property values fell 5.5 percent, the biggest drop in since the ratings agency began compiling this index in 2000.

"Prices have nominally returned to the levels they were in the spring of 2005," Moody's said, adding that transaction volumes were at their lowest levels since October 2003.

GE's real estate arm said Thursday its debt-default rate on loans in its portfolio could rise to 10% under adverse economic conditions:

Speaking to investors in New York, executives said a stress test on its portfolio based on a Federal baseline assumption for the economy implied the default rate could be 8%, rising as high as 10% if U.S. GDP and unemployment turn more negative. That would result in a potential 2009 segment loss of $900 million, or $1 billion, respectively. For the fourth quarter, GE Real Estate said its debt-default rate was just 1.2%, compared with a 5.4% rate seen at commercial banks, due to unit's avoidance of construction and development loans, second mortgages, malls, and resorts, and having just 3% of its portfolio in subprime lending.

Now, let me ask you, if you are the Fed Chairman and you are seeing signs of deflation everywhere - soaring unemployment, a mortgage mess, pension funds imploding, etc. - wouldn't you try to reflate your way out of this mess?

The market seems to be betting that reflation will persist. Chris Puplava wrote an excellent analysis, Commodities - Signaling Reflation or Stabilization?

But the jury is still out on quantitative easing and its effects on pension funds. Today's stock market was clearly not a sign of confidence.

If successful, the road to reflation will be long and arduous. I remain skeptical, fearing the age of deflation, knowing that you can't reflate deflated balloons.

Anonymous said...
FDR,
1st inaugural address: "the money changers have fled from their high seats in the temple of our civilization. ... those unscrupulous money changers stood indicted in the court of public opinion, rejected by the hearts and minds of men."
1st fire side chat, he promised to pursue a final reckoning with the illegitimate and overbearing financial aristocracy that had shadowed the nation since at least the days of Andrew Jackson." the days of great promoter or the financial titan to whom we granted everything, if he will only build or develop is over."
and also wrote 'The fundamental trouble with this whole stock exchange crowd is their complex lack of elementary education. I do not mean lack of college diplomas, etc. but just inability to understand the country or public or their obligations to their fellow men. Perhaps you can help them acquire a kindergarten knowledge of these subjects. More the power to you."

[Feb 17, 2009] Divergent Unemployment Rates

I not ready to declare the end of deflation risks. But I can easily make a story in which structural adjustment combined with misdirected stimulus yielded a higher than expected inflation rate. As always, it is wise to consider the full range of risks to your outlook.
Economist's View

Tim Duy:

Divergent Unemployment Rates, by Tim Duy: It is common knowledge that educational achievement significantly impacts labor market outcomes. Still, I was struck by the increase in that disparity as I prepared the following charts for a presentation last week. Consider the year over year change in unemployment rates by educational achievement since 1993:

Unemp1

Note that the increase in unemployment rates for no high school and high school graduates are increasing at a very rapid rate over the past year (note this also reflects rising labor force participation for the no high school group (Jan. 2008 - Jan. 2009), in contrast to falling participation among other groups). In contrast, during the 2001 recession, increases in unemployment rates were comparable. For a closer look at 2001:

Unemp2

And the current recession:

Unemp3

A few thoughts come to mind:

  1. Rising structural unemployment. If the housing/consumer debt dynamic led us into this downturn, and, as I think is reasonable to expect, will not lead us out of the downturn, then we can expect that those persons unemployed as a result will continue to face relatively higher rates of unemployment in the future. In essence, it is not clear to which sector these labor resources will be reallocated, especially given anticipated lethargic rates of labor growth on the other side of this recession. I suspect that very strong growth will be required to revitalize a labor market for these individuals (such as that experienced during the information technology boom). No such growth forecast exists.
  2. Hysteresis? That is a term that has not cross my mind for many years. Suppose the economy is undergoing a structural adjustment that promises to deliver low growth rates for the next decade, with cycles driven by the start-stop process of fiscal stimulus. Could each new "boom" end with an unemployment rate higher than the low of the previous boom as structural unemployment edges up?
  3. Stimulus may also have a differential impact on unemployment. If the jobs generated by fiscal stimulus tend toward workers with higher education levels, then stimulus will not alleviate the problem of rising structural unemployment. Note - this is NOT an argument against stimulus. It highlights the importance of proper structure of the stimulus package.
  4. Us versus them. I hate to say this, but certain political partisans could turn this into a morality play...why should your tax dollars be wasted supporting the bottom end of the educational level? They had their chance.
  5. Inflation risk? If significant structural issues are in play, perhaps we are fooling ourselves about the low risk of inflation. Consider Jim Hamilton:

I have in my research instead stressed technological frictions. For example, when spending on cars abruptly falls, there is a physical, technological challenge with getting the specialized labor and capital formerly employed in manufacturing cars into some alternative activity. In my mind, it is a mistake to pretend that any federal program is capable of immediately re-employing those resources into an alternative, equally productive enterprise.

More fundamentally, I have suggested that our present situation is as if someone had quite successfully sabotaged the basic functionality of our financial system. Until we once again have a financial sector that can successfully allocate credit to worthy projects, we're not possibly going to be able to produce as much in the way or real goods and services, no matter what the level of aggregate demand or stimulus package might be.

In terms of the textbook Keynesian models that people play with, I'm suggesting that "potential" GDP growth for 2009:Q1-- that growth rate which, if we try to exceed it by stimulating aggregate demand, we primarily just get more inflation-- is in fact a negative number.

I not ready to declare the end of deflation risks. But I can easily make a story in which structural adjustment combined with misdirected stimulus yielded a higher than expected inflation rate. As always, it is wise to consider the full range of risks to your outlook.

Bottom Line: Yet another thing to worry about.

State of Cringe by Jim Kunstler

January 26, 2009 | Clusterfuck Nation

Just as Mr. Obama has danced into the oval office, we've arrived at a moment when a lot of people have a hard time imagining the future. This includes especially the mainstream media, which has reached a state of zombification parallel to that of the banks. But even in the mighty blogosphere, with its thousands of voices unconstrained by craven advertisers or pandering managing editors, the view forward dims as a dark and ominous fog rolls over the landscape of possibilities.
For at least a year several story-lines have been slugging it out inconclusively for supremacy of the Web-waves. The main event has been the Deflationists versus the Inflationists. The first group basically says that so much "money" is being welshed out of existence that it dwarfs the new "money" being shoveled into existence in the form of bail-outs, tarps, and office re-decoration stipends. The Deflationists see the tattered remnants of the consumer credit economy auguring ever deeper into a hole until it is buried so far down that all the back-hoes ever sold will not be able to dig it out. The competing Inflationists say that the massive truckloads of shoveled-in "money" will soon overtake vanishing "wealth" and, in the process, make the US dollar worthless.
Some of us see both outcomes in sequence: the deflationary "work out" of bad debt currently underway -- of loans that will will never be paid back, of acronymic paper securities revealed as frauds, of "non-performing" contracts entering the swamps of foreclosure, of banks pretending to still exist, of hallucinated "wealth" rushing into the cosmic worm-hole of oblivion -- can only go for so long before everyone who can go broke will go broke. Then, just as we find ourselves a nation of empty pockets, the tsunami of shoveled-in "money" designed to "reboot the consumer" (created not from productive activity but just printed recklessly), will start churning through the "economy," chasing products and commodities that became scarce during the deflationary phase -- and the result is hyper-inflation, the eraser of debt, destroyer of fortunes, and suicide pill of feckless governments.
I guess the basic difference is that the hardcore Deflationists seem to think that their process can go on forever. The society just gets poorer and poorer until we're back at something like a scene out of Pieter Bruegel the Elder. The Inflationists see a fork in the road leading to more overt destruction, especially political turmoil as a lot of negative emotion joins the work-out orgy and overwhelms government.
But in this moment, the week after a new president's inauguration, the deadly fog has rolled in and absolutely everyone dreads what lurks on the other side of it, without being able to discern the path through it. For example, the "bail-out fatigue" being reported suggests that congress may just call a halt to money-shoveling. Where would that leave Mr. Obama's urgent call for "stimulus?" Not to mention further TARP injections for redecorating bank offices.
I've been skeptical of the "stimulus" as sketched out so far, aimed at refurbishing the infrastructure of Happy Motoring. To me, this is the epitome of a campaign to sustain the unsustainable -- since car-dependency is absolutely the last thing we need to shore up and promote. I haven't heard any talk so far about promoting walkable communities, or any meaningful plan to get serious about fixing passenger rail and integral public transit. Has Mr. Obama's circle lost sight of the fact that we import more than two-thirds of the oil we use, even during the current price hiatus? Or have they forgotten how vulnerable this leaves us to the slightest geopolitical spasm in such stable oil-exporting nations as Nigeria, Mexico, Venezuela, Libya, Algeria, Columbia, Iran, and the Middle East states? And we're going to rescue ourselves by driving cars?
I know it is difficult for Americans at every level to imagine a different way-of-life, but we'd better start tuning up our imaginations, because endless motoring is not our destiny anymore. The message has not moved from the grassroots up, and so at this perilous stage the message had better come from the top down. Mr. Obama needs to go on TV and tell the American public that were done cruisin' for burgers. He could do that by drastically reviving his stimulus proposal as it currently stands.
Putting aside whether this "stimulus" represents reckless money-printing in an insolvent society, let's just take it at face-value and ask where the "money" might be better directed:

-- We have to rehabilitate thousands of downtowns all over the nation to accommodate the new re-scaled edition of local and regional trade that will follow the death of national chain-store retail of the WalMart ilk. Reactivated town centers and Main Streets are indispensable features of walkable communities. The Congress for the New Urbanism (CNU.org) ought to be consulted on the procedures for accomplishing this and for rehabilitating the traditional neighborhoods connected to our Main Streets.

-- We have to reform food production (a.k.a. "farming"). Petro-dependent agri-biz will go the same way as the chain stores. Its equations will fail, especially in a credit-strapped society. That piece of the picture is so dire right now, as we prepare for the planting season, that many crops may not be put in for lack of front-money. This portends, at least, much higher food prices at the end of the year, if not outright scarcities and shortages. And the new government wants to gold-plate highway off-ramps instead? Earth to Rahm Emanuel: screw your head back on.

-- As mentioned above, we have to get passenger rail going again because the airlines are going to die the next time there is an uptick in oil prices, or a spot shortage of oil. Let's not be too grandiose and attempt to build expensive high-speed or mag-lev networks -- certainly not right now -- because they require entirely new track systems. Let's fix those regular tracks already out there, rusting in the rain, or temporarily replaced by bike trails.

Those are three biggies for moment and enough to keep this society busy for a couple of years. But more to the point of this blog, observers of all stripes are having trouble imagining any way out of our multiple predicaments. All the possible actions tried so far have have seemed absurd. Why even try to prop up inflated house values when the single most crucial need in this sector is for house prices to return to parity with incomes so the shrinking pool of ordinary people still employed can begin to think about buying one? Well, the obvious explanation is that politicians can't bear the pain of watching mass foreclosures and the ruination of families. This is pretty understandable, and it is tragic indeed. Frankly, I don't know of any political narcotic that can mitigate the pain that results from having made poor choices in life -- even if those choices were promoted and reinforced by the mighty ideology of "American Dreaming." Anyway, the foreclosures are well underway now, and perhaps the salient question is how long will the public's fury remain constrained while they hear about Wall Street executives buying $80,000 area rugs? Surely there is a tipping point of collective distress that is not too far from where we're at now.
In the realm of TARPS and other continued bail-outs aimed at the banks, the car-makers, and a host of other corporate special pleaders, I wonder if we have already reached the saturation point. But opinion on the Web is starkly divided and a prime manifestation is the debate over whether it was a terrible blunder or the right thing to let Lehman Brothers sink into bankruptcy. Both sides make valid arguments, but virtually all the other super-banks right now have lurched to death's door and we have no clear guidance on what we should do about them. Each one is touted as "too big to fail," as well as being interlocked with the others on credit default swaps that would bring them all crashing down if one counter party truly failed. It seems to me that this is what lies at the heart of the present situation. Nobody I've encountered in the sphere of opinion-and-comment thinks that these banks will survive, and this outcome beats a short path to the conclusion that the entire banking system is fatally ill -- leading directly to a super-major crisis of political economy in which the whole reeking, leaking system just crashes. I think this is what lies behind Mr. Obama's appeals for very urgent action.
But then we're back to square one: nobody, including Mr. O himself, has really proposed a set of actions that have not already been tried in the way of money-shoveling. So this will be a week in which, perhaps, some wise and intrepid figures -- perhaps even the president -- will articulate something we haven't heard before, perhaps even something like bearing our hardships bravely. It'll be a very interesting week, I'm sure.
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[Jan 2, 2009] After brutal 2008 beating, stock funds face uncertain 2009 - MarketWatch

"Consensus has the recession ending in the middle of next year; I just don't see that," economist and investment adviser Gary Shilling said. "We are in trouble; the recession is going to run at least through next year. We are at the onset of deflation, which will reign during the rest of this recession."

[Dec 31, 2008] naked capitalism Groundwork for Trade Conflict Being Laid

Groundwork for Trade Conflict Being Laid?

We have worried out loud that the policy remedies being pursued by the US amount to trying to restore the status quo ante to as great a degree as possible, particularly in trying to resturn US overconsumption to something approaching its former levels. Although it may be difficult to work two agendas, crisis response and addressing the root causes of our economic mess in parallel, focusing solely on the former runs the considerable risk of that we will see only a shallow recovery, with many of the elements of the crisis soon reasserting themselves in more virulent form.

Similarly, the Chinese, who at least in theory had accepted that they needed to let their currency rise (and presumably over time move to a more balanced, less export-dependent economy) have similarly gone into full reverse gear. The RMB has now been more or less re-pegged to the dollar, and China is moving in other ways to shore up exporters (such as pressuring banks to lend).

Michael Pettis points to a related, troubling development: other emerging economies are seeking to restore or increase trade surpluses. That in turn means SOMEONE has to import. But the US wants to increase exports (and the move by the Fed to quantitative easing will have the side benefit, from its perspective, of weakening the dollar). Euroland is neither keen nor able to step into the US role of importer of the last (and first) resort (boldface ours):

One consequence of the financial crisis will inevitably be capital outflows from developing countries. The necessary corollary of capital outflows is trade surpluses. Without running a trade surplus no country can consistently support capital outflows, and as obvious as this is, it also seems to be a source of tremendous mystery to many experts and policymakers. Keynes for example pointed this out in his fury at the way Germany was required to post war reparations in the 1920s while its ability to generate export surpluses was all but eliminated by the victorious powers. Capital exports by definition require trade surpluses.

This is just another way of saying that a lot of developing countries that had been running trade deficits will soon be, if they aren't already, running trade surpluses. Instead of contributing their net demand to the world economy, as they had via their trade deficits, they will now be contributing their net supply.

This will not help the world imbalances. The biggest contributors of net demand are the US and non-Germany Europe, and both of these regions are seeing a rapid decline in their net demand contribution (i.e. their trade deficits are expected to shrink). To adjust to this decline the world needs new sources of net demand or else global production must contract sharply via factory closings and rising unemployment. But the largest net supply country, China, is increasing its export of net supply (its trade surplus has been rising) while several trade deficit countries in Asian and elsewhere are switching to trade surplus or otherwise trying to reduce their deficits.

This cannot be sustainable. We cannot expect production to rise while consumption declines except if it comes with a dangerous rise in forced investment (also known as inventory). The crisis cannot even begin to be considered in its final stages until this issue is resolved.

Pettis addresses another issue, namely, that China's interest rate cuts will do little for consumers, and will instead exacerbate global imbalances:
For me, interest rate cuts in China will have very different effects than they might in the US. In the US, where a great deal of credit goes to consumption, lowering interest rates can be seen as boosting consumption as much as boosting production. At any rate the US, which contributes the largest amount of excess net consumption to the world and must bring it down, has every reason to focus on production-boosting measures as well as consumption-boosting measures.

But China is different. First of all there is little to no consumer credit in China, so cutting interest rates won't do much to boost consumption. It might do so indirectly by reducing mortgage payments (Chinese mortgages are all floating-rate mortgages) and perhaps by slowing the decline in real estate prices, but it is not clear how big an effect that might have on increasing consumption, especially since even lower interest rates aren't likely to create much buying interest for real estate. In fact there is some evidence in China that households may actually contract spending when deposit rates are cut since they need to save more to achieve their precautionary savings targets.

On the other hand with most credit going to investment, lowering interest rates definitely reduces further the cost of production. I know that the idea of lowering interest rates in an economic contraction is firmly entrenched in economic wisdom, and I am taking what may seem like an extremely opposite viewpoint, but I doubt that cutting interest rates is what China needs to do if it is expecting to adjust to the global payments adjustment. Every domestic policy must be aimed at boosting demand, and anything that increases China's "competitiveness" is a dangerous detour since it can only exacerbate global imbalances and increase the likelihood of trade friction.


In down times, it's every man for himself. The interesting question is whether these conflicts come to the fore in 2009 or take a bit longer to become acute.

Selected comments

Anonymous said...
It seems a little hypocritical for Uncle ZIRP to be blaming China on interest rate cuts.

The other assumption that always gets me is the notion that RMB has to rise. Now Chinese exports has contracted, so should capital inflows into China. Logically the RMB will fall. Having China using reserves to defend a falling currency to the point of causing it to rise smacks retarded to me.

What I see is a whole lot of hostage taking from America. And very little in the way of actually solving anything.

fresno dan said...
" In fact there is some evidence in China that households may actually contract spending when deposit rates are cut since they need to save more to achieve their precautionary savings targets."
Kinda sounds like Fresno Dan.
Steve Higgins said...
The original goal of all the government hyperactivity was to rescue real estate and get mortgages happening again... The results so far are more programs, more government and fewer loan programs.
Steve Higgins
Boulder Real Estate and Mortgages
www.BoulderLoanRanger.com
donebenson said...
If you also assume that there is still a MAJOR worldwide problem with bad debt/insolvencies, and then add this problem of excessive exports and currency depreciations, unfortunately Yves is right in that it is FAR too early to see the end of these very trying times.
Anonymous said...
My wife is a paramedic, when they are called to a code one and the patient is obviously going to die. They make a little show for the on lookers, to make the on-lookers feel good about it all. They tried and all, in the end they just let them go. Kinda like the world economy eh.

Skippy

Anonymous said...
"Every domestic policy must be aimed at boosting demand, and anything that increases China's "competitiveness" is a dangerous detour since it can only exacerbate global imbalances and increase the likelihood of trade friction."

The qualifier is that Chinese domestic policy must be aimed at increasing Chinese demand. So far, they seem more focused on boosting US demand through still lower prices. My mind cannot let go of the specter of world-wide deflation and job wars followed by ...

The perfessers, who created this monster from their tenured perches, are still ranting against "protectionism". They really haven't factored in world war or worse, loss of their own jobs.

Anonymous said...
China, it seems, insists on maintaining and even expanding its trade balance with the US.

Doesn't that mean that the proper policy for the US in this situation - for our own benefit and for the benefit of the rest of the world - is to erect trade barriers such as tariffs or quotas to reduce the trade imbalance?

john bougearel said...
lowering interest rates in China to lower the costs of production will only serve to lead to more over-investment from the credit creation boom era that just won't die.

Policies like this that exacerbate the overinvestment and production capacity in China will only worsen the developing crisis.

How long is it going to take for the collective world to learn the music has stopped playing and that it is time to stop dancing?

Anonymous said...
The Chinese will claim a bigger and bigger piece of the market share as their prices tumble. This leads to a rapid acceleration in job losses in the US. There are two alternative escape routes for the US, the first being protectionism and the rest of the world slowly shunning the US, or currency devaluation and loss of reserve currency status. Either way living standards in the US would drop.

Perhaps the best option would be an engineered gradual devaluation of the dollar before too many jobs are lost. Still I am not entirely happy with the way that the money flows are described by Michael Pettis. Something tells me though that his basic premise is not quite right and it has to do with the subtle difference between capital exports and investment. Investment is not really an export as it can be pulled back.
Anonymous said...
certainly the US hasn't stopped believing that its economic model of the last 60 years of getting credit into the hands of american consumers and supporting the real estate and paper asset markets should cease, so why blame the chinese for continuing their production based model: the result of the FED's money printing would be more debt for americans, devaluation of the US currency and eventually default of treasuries. It is a death spiral for everyone, americans chinese etc. But don't shift the cause of the problem from the US to the rest of the world.
Anonymous said...
To play devil's advocate the relationship might work between America and China. What if China just said screw it, they will fund the trade deficit of America and the federal government deficit up to basically any level.

Even if they had to fund a trillion dollars a year, it sounds like it would be impossible. But its only 1,000$ per Chinese person.

Richard said...
Reading Brad Setzer, it appears that is exactly what the Chinese are doing and intend to do, buy every last Treasury they can lay their hands on. What is the alternative (the Germans and the EU would go ballistic if they started buying EURO bonds and drove up the EURO), or basketcase Japan and its Yen who would also frown on further appreciation)? But the American is spent out, her income flat for seven years. Now she is underwater with the asset price declines, she either wants to just pay off this debt or else default in face of the hopelessness of the situation. Those who aren't, are saving (see the already current swing from a negative savings rate in 2005 to a 3.5 savings rate in 2008)as the only way to build an emergency fund for job loss and for retirement.

If China can't find jobs for its people, they, the Chinese people may conclude that the Chinese Communist Party has lost the "Mandate of Heaven" and it is time for a new Emperor. A Chinese civil war (along with a Pakistan-India Nuclear war)I guess is one way to get rid of surplus capacity.

As far as "investments" coming back, the descendants of the those who invested in pre-1917 Russia and pre-1949 China are still waiting to get their money back.

Anonymous said...
We've got a govt run by millionaire congressmen who engorged themselves on the status quo. There is no hope for the US worker save getting these villains out of high office.

It will never happen.

Prediction:


Martial law in 2009-2010. The rich have stolen the money and they ain't giving it back.

Internet will be shut down and the constitution suspended.

S said...
Why wouldn't the rest of the world erect trade barriers? Isn't this basically what European champions are all about? Why is it so hard for the US to fathom that the rest of the world doesn't see ZIRP as the answer? Is it because the rest of the world serves a pagan constituency of savers? The high priests at the Fed and treasury hve decreed that US is doing the yeoman's work spending other people's money. The Pharisees, or is it pharaohs) simply can't conceive of the idea that their entire kingdom is a mirage resulting in malinvestment the likes of which the world has never seen. Overcapacity is rampant everywhere, no more so than in the financial community.

Is it not a little shocking that the same crowd that has been at the globalization fore is screaming loudest for neo Keynesianism? Diversionary catcalls about free market jihadism only detract from the unholy ideological alliance hatched in the wake of BWII. It's not regulation rather the foundations of the system itself.

The dirty little secret is that the globalizers cum Keynesians had to embrace the free markets because the ideological achievements of pushing for max integration trumped the short term Faustian bargain. Seen in this light, the Keynesianism shouting make perfect sense. On need only read the latest post on Economist's View about the Fed adding a asset inflation target mandate to its charter. The globalizers appear to have more in common with the Chinese and Sun Tzu than would be given credit – win the battle before it is fought, right.

The globalizers are just opportunistic, or cunning, socialist. They are about bigger and bigger government and integration begets that goal. The ICC, UN, Kyoto and the fondness of the Davos crowd to talk about global cosmopolitans all speak to the not so thinly veiled agenda. Abby Joseph Cohen has been promoted to work on environmental and world issues after being so prescient in her market analysis. Her ilk will lift the world out of poverty; so long as the multinational meets financial set continue to extract their rents, at the continuing expense of those they seek to help. No BRICs in the Gulfstream, or is tit G7.

The upper west side ulema sit squarely at the vanguard of this agenda. And the illuminati have been fighting their dirty war for decades. It shouldn't shock that Hollywood captures the esprit de core perfectly in Col. Jessup's rant in a Few Good Men:

"I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives (substitute investment banks)...You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall"

He believed it and they do to. Be worried as they say. Paulson tirade in today's FT is yet more of the oozing puss. The agenda marches on obama, for now.

S said...
File this one under the mosiac theory...

"December 29, 2008, El Paso, Texas - A U.S. Army War College report warns an economic crisis in the United States could lead to massive civil unrest and the need to call on the military to restore order.
Retired Army Lt. Col. Nathan Freir wrote the report "Known Unknowns: Unconventional Strategic Shocks in Defense Strategy Development," which the Army think tank in Carlisle, Pa., recently released.
"Widespread civil violence inside the United States would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities ... to defend basic domestic order and human security," the report said, in case of "unforeseen economic collapse," "pervasive public health emergencies," and "catastrophic natural and human disasters," among other possible crises.
The report also suggests the new (Barack Obama) administration could face a "strategic shock" within the first eight months in office.
Fort Bliss spokeswoman Jean Offutt said the Army post is not involved in any recent talks about a potential military response to civil unrest.
The report become a hot Internet item after Phoenix police told the Phoenix Business Journal they're prepared to deal with such an event, and the International Monetary Fund's managing director, Dominique Strauss-Khan, said social unrest could spread to advanced countries if the global economic crisis worsens.

lineup32 said...
The multi-national corporation has a heavy hand in this situation as their investment both in China's production model and political/PR/financial power within the U.S. promoting global trade benefits are hitting a wall.

Clearly years of careful financial and political ploys are rapidily coming undone here and abroad with real massive loss for their financial investments overseas and poltical and public relations influence within the U.S.
sanjay said...
I think you nailed it and good to know I am in good company. Sometimes cutting interest rates can be the wrong thing to do. I believe this crisis was precipitated by the Fed. cutting rates in response to a solvency crisis.
In a solvency crisis lenders need a higher not lower interest rate! In doing so they destroyed the entire financial architecture- the spread relationship between various asset classes.
That break down in turn was viewed by the markets as reflective of even greater problems the death spiral was on.

[Dec 16, 2008] Inflation, Deflation...

Can deflation and inflation coexist somehow "peacefully coexist" in the current economy ?
by cactus


Inflation, Deflation... Where The Heck Are We Going?

Some folks are telling we are going to have deflation, what with the economy contracting and the vast disappearance of tons of cash through the implosion in value of assets that weren't really worth what Goldman, Welfare, Queen & Sachs and the rest of 'em told us they were worth. Some folks tell us we're gonna have inflation - after all, the Fed is printing money like mad and the Federal Government is handing out bail-outs to those who got us into this mess like there is no tomorrow.

I've been too swamped with my day job to have a chance to work through this myself, but it seems to me that falling prices are coming to some sectors of the economy, and the loot is going to other sectors of the economy. Perhaps the end result of this is going to be merely one big redistribution, with the change in CPI remaining within a range (say, -1% to 5%) that is not outlandish by US standards and which certainly doesn't qualify as a problem when viewed from the perspective of countries that have faced hyperinflation or massive deflation.

In other words, we may not see a monetary phenomenon (at least not until significant parts of the debt eventually become hard to service, which is not a matter of months) but rather a furthering of our travels down the road as a kleptocracy.

Like I said, I haven't had the chance to work this out. Where do you think we're going?
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by cactus

[Dec 12, 2008] Deflation has become inevitable by Yves Smith

naked capitalism

I'm reproducing the bulk of a very good (and possibly final) post by London Banker, a former central banker and securities regulator, that takes issue with some of the conventional wisdom surrounding the efforts to remedy our economic crisis via liberal applications of monetary easing and fiscal stimulus.

I happen in general to be sympathetic to minority views (conventional wisdom is generally wrong). And in this case, as I discuss below, I am worried that conventional wisdom rests on a thin and dubious set of data and assumptions.

London Banker's arguments are two-fold: first, deflation is more likely than inflation because the underlying messes have not been cleaned up. Therefore investors will be leery of putting funds into risky investments. Note this differs from the commonly-held view that deflation can be cured without addressing institutional arrangements. Second, he argues that punitively low yields will lead foreign investors eventually to retreat even from government debt. He argues that they will tire at throwing good money after bad, and will prefer to seek returns closer to home.

This claim is hard to prove (one can argue that the high risk spreads are due to deleveraging, not distrust) but it is a serious issue if true. One of the things that worked for years in favor of the US is that it had the most liquid, deepest capital markets, That was due not just to the size of its economy, but also the fact that it had high standards for financial disclosure and generally strong investor protection. If investors come to doubt the fairness of the markets, or think that the rot in its economy is not being cleared out and will undermine growth, that will hold investment back. As Brad Setser has pointed out, foreign capital flows have consisted almost entirely of central bank purchases of Treasuries and Agencies for quite some time, hardly a vote of confidence.

We also have the question of how long the high dollar/low Treasury interest game can go on. Bernanke wants rates low to try to stimulate economic activity and has even broached the idea of long bond purchases to keep yields on the long end of the curve down. But the poster child of deflation and low interest rates is Japan, which due to its high savings rate, was not dependent on external funding. The US should want the dollar cheaper to boost exports, but that risks the ire of our creditors, who would take big losses on their FX reserves (many economists argue this idea is specious, but try explaining the loss in paper wealth to a populace not schooled in such niceties. FX losses, when the dollar was weakening earlier in the year, produced a lot of ire in China, including among bureaucrats). Similarly, even if you subscribe to the deflation outlook, 3%ish 30 year bonds is a pretty risky bet independent of the currency risk. So it looks like our friendly funding sources are likely to get burned one way or another, perhaps both. There is a real risk of a disorderly fall of the dollar, and it is hard to tell what the collateral damage would be.

Now to my doubts about the proposed remedies, namely monster stimulus and monetary easing. First, as mentioned before, the analogy is to the US in the Depression, which we have said repeatedly before is questionable. The US in the 1920s was the world's biggest creditor, exporter, and manufacturer. Our position then is analogous to China's now. Indeed, Keynes in the 1930s urged America to take even more aggressive measures, and argued that it was not reasonable for the US to expect over-consuming, debt-burdened countries like the UK and France to take up the demand slack. So even though most economists are invoking Keynes, it isn't clear he's prescribe such aggressive stimulus for the US and UK now.

Second, the argument is that the US in the 1930s and Japan in its post bubble era failed to engage in sufficiently large stimulus. That is mere conjecture; there is no way to prove that argument (we cannot go back in a time machine and test different remedies in both economies).

In the US, the claim generally made is that the US did not emerge conclusively from the Depression until it engaged in massive wartime spending starting in 1939-40, and therefore a stimulus of perhaps that large a magnitude is required. However, quite a lot happened between 1930 and 1939, including going off the gold standard, the securities law reforms of 1933 and 1934, the creation of the FDIC, refinancing homeowner debt to longer-term mortgages via the Homeowner's Loan Corporation, and the closure of a lot of business, some of which were probably victims of circumstance, but others probably deserved to be put out of their misery.

There is another huge extenuating circumstance with the war spending that observers choose to forget. The US's problem in 1929, like China's appeared to be (at least in part) overproduction, that there might be too much global capacity relative to consumer demand (that is certainly true for the auto industry now, which had managed to forestall the day of reckoning by converting consumers to leases that had them trading in cars after 3 years, when buyers generally keep them longer. Decreasing the effective life of cars was tantamount to increasing demand). In addition, the US suffered a fall in GDP of 11% in 1946 and 1% in 1947 in transitioning off a wartime economy.

But perhaps more important, at the end of WWII, productive capacity in the next two biggest industrialized nations, Germany and Japan, had been destroyed. The US had effectively no competition for its bulked up industrial capacity.

Had the US in 1930 tried monster stimulus, without the painful adjustments of the 1930s, would it have worked? Probably narrowly, in keeping unemployment from rising to horrific levels and containing the fall in GDP. But I question whether it would have been a panacea. The New Deal, contrary to popular opinion, did produce a lot of good results with its workfare, such as the building of parks and roads, the electrification of rural America. if the US had attempted something at twice that scale, would it have been productive? Some argue that it didn't matter, the important thing is to get money into the economy, but I wonder. Japan did engage in pretty heavy infrastructure spending (a lot of bridges to nowhere) and it does not seem to have done them much good.

Note my sophisticated investor buddies disagree, saying this is backwards looking, confident that a US budget deficit of 10% of GDP next year will do the trick, and think inflation/hyperinflation is the bigger risk (note some consider hyperinflation to be operative at 20% per annum; you do not need to get to Weimar scenarios for inflation to start distorting economic decisions in a very serious way).

From London Banker:

For a while now I have been on the fence on the inflation/deflation issue .... I'm now coming down on the side of deflation for a very simple reason: there is no longer any incentive to save or invest, and so debt and investment cannot increase much beyond current bloated levels.

In Lombard Street, Bagehot's seminal tome on fractional reserve central banking, Bagehot advises any central bank facing a simultaneous credit crisis and currency crisis to raise interest rates. By raising rates they will ensure that foreign creditors remain incentivised to maintain the general level of credit available while the central bank resolves the local liquidity crisis through liquidation of failed banks and temporary liquidity support of stressed banks.

Yves here. For the UK, the currency crisis issue is a real concern. Recall that the pound has taken a huge dive in recent months, and Willem Buiter has taken to comparing Britain to Iceland. Back to the post:
The very opposite policies have been pursued by central banks in the US, Europe and UK ...They have cut policy rates drastically, and as the crisis escalated and spread, the yield on government debt has dropped to negative territory. Meanwhile they have shielded those responsible for the creation of record levels of bad debt from any regulatory accountability, relaxed transparency of accounts, and provided massive taxpayer-funded financial infusions to prevent failure and liquidation.

While in the short term these policies have expediency and the maintenance of market "confidence" on their side, in the longer term these policies must undermine any confidence a rational and objective saver or investor might have that savings or investment in the US, EU or UK will be fairly remunerated at an above-inflation rate, or that savings and investments will be protected by effective oversight and regulation from the sorts of executive debasement and outright misappropriation and fraud that are beginning to colour our perceptions of the past decade...

If US, EU and UK had substantial domestic savings to fund their banks (as in Japan in 1990), then perhaps the consequences would not be so imminently disastrous. Lacking sufficient domestic savings, however, their actions will likely make foreign creditors in Japan, China, the Gulf and elsewhere question whether it is worthwhile to keep pumping scarce savings into such flawed and reckless economies...

The determination to avoid any accountability for failed banks, failed business models, failed regulatory systems and failed academic rationales for all the above invites anyone with spare cash – an increasingly select crowd – to withhold it from further depredations. It is this instinct, more than confidence in the government, which is driving so many to seek the temporary safety of short-dated government securities.

The result of discouraging domestic and foreign creditors and investors must be inevitable deflation as debt levels become increasingly hard to finance and ultimately contract. Irresponsible central banks and governments can try to bail out the failed banks, businesses and municipalities at the centre of every popped bubble, but the bubble economies are ever more certain to deflate with each bailout. Each bailout further undermines the market discipline which is bedrock to a saver or investor's decision to part with hard-earned cash by trusting it to the intermediation of the management of a bank or business.

It's this simple: I won't invest in a country that bails out failure and punishes savers. I won't invest in the US or UK until they change course and protect savers and investors, ensuring a reasonably predictable positive return. In the EU, I will be very selective, preferring those conservative states like Germany that never embraced the worst excesses, although sadly still have fall out from individual banks' stupidity in buying into foreign excess. I will know when it is safe to reinvest when policy interest rates, bank/intermediary oversight and accounting standards give me confidence I am better protected than the corporate or financial elite.

While it may take the Asian and the Gulf State investors longer to embrace my analysis, I have no doubt that they too will eventually conclude that parting with their savings under the terms now on offer will only deepen their losses. They would be better off keeping the money at home, investing locally under local laws and vigilance, and letting the US and UK implode.

The argument against this has always been that with trillions already invested in the US during the deficit years, the Chinese and Gulf States would suffer even more horrible losses from a collapse of the western economies. This is accurate, but not complete, as it ignores the relative value of cash investment at the top and bottom of a bursting bubble. Once the collapse has bottomed out, so long as a globalised economy survives, there will be even better opportunities for those with savings to invest selectively in businesses with clearer prospects and more certain profitability under regulatory frameworks which have been restored to a proper balance of investor protection and intermediary oversight.

Right now survival of businesses in the West depends largely on political pull and access to regulatory forbearance and central bank or treasury finance. The market has failed, and officialdom is collaborating in perpetuating that failure...

I think it took me so long to feel confident about predicting deflation because the floating currency system under dollar hegemony and Bretton Woods II distorts the workings of both inflation and deflation. Despite the US being the epicentre of all the failed debts, failed securitisations, failed credit derivatives, failed rating agencies, failed banking businesses, failed corporate governance, failed accounting standards, failed capital adequacy models, and failed regulatory forbearance, the US dollar has recently strengthened as deflation globalised. The US exported inflation in the boom years, and now exports deflation in the bust years.

Since spring 2008, as US investment banks sold off assets, imposed margin calls, and used access to unsegregated wholesale assets in custody in the rest of the world to upstream liquidity to their US-based parents and affiliates, the dollar has strengthened relative to other currencies. The media reports this as a "flight to quality", but it is more like a last looting of the surrounding countryside before dangerous brigands hole up in their hilltop fortress. The brigands appear temporarily wealthy compared to the peons left stripped and penniless and facing winter. When the brigands have eaten all the stolen grain and livestock, however, they will have no means to replenish except to use force to raid the countryside again. The peons can always hunt, forage, farm and carefully husband a surplus to gradually increase their wealth. If the brigands raid too thoroughly or too regularly, the peons have no incentive to grow crops or keep herds (negative savings returns) and everyone starves (deflation).

In the meanwhile, the peons just might wise up, hide any surplus more securely and organise mutual defense against further attacks to ensure that their peon children prosper and the brigands die off. That would be the end of Bretton Woods II, and the rise of China, India, the Gulf and other productive and/or resource rich states which invest surplus in domestic productivity and regional growth...

Only when that deflation has played out and rational policies that reward market-based management and returns are restored will it be worthwhile to invest again. In the meanwhile, any wealth saved securely from state seizure will "swell" to buy more assets in future - a key aspect of deflation and a key means of restoring the control of the economy into the hands of more farsighted savers and investors.

I have quoted Mr John Mill before, but it bears repeating: ""Panics do not destroy capital; they merely reveal the extent to which it has been destroyed by its betrayal into hopelessly unproductive works." The extent to which capital has been betrayed in the past quarter century under Bretton Woods II, bank deregulation and the Basle Capital Adequacy Accords is unrivalled in the history of fiat banking. The bankers, lawmakers, regulators and academics who collaborated in the betrayal still hold power, like the well-armed brigands in the fortress, and their continued collaboration to prevent accountability must inevitably discourage honest savers from risking further loss. Even so, it is the savers/peons who hold the ultimate power as they can starve the brigands.

Some day soon savers will revolt at financing further depredations. They will refuse to buy even government securities, gagging at the quantities of issue forced upon them under terms of only negative return. When that final massive bubble bursts, deflation will follow its harsh corrective course and clean out deficit-financed "unproductive works".

When that happens, if reason is restored in markets with effective oversight, I might consider investing again, very selectively, in whatever productive works might then be on offer and only when secure in realising - and retaining - a positive yield.

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24 comments:

Anonymous said...
There is a moralizing tone to LB's post. Moral judgments in economics are often exercises in wish fulfillment and are distorting.

"...the rise of China, India, the Gulf and other productive and/or resource rich states which invest surplus in domestic productivity and regional growth."

By contrast to the UK and USA and their vampiric relation to surplus states?

Or, not so much. As wages have fallen in China relative to GDP, investment in productive capacity has been in a bubble. The crash will be horrific. That model is at least as unsustainable as the American model.

Yes there will be deflation. It is a consequence of world-wide unwinding of leverage. But that doesn't mean the 'Liquidate labor, liquidate stocks, liquidate the farmers, liquidate real estate' policy is what we need.
Rescuing productive and financial capacities from the forces of collapse is the only way right now towards any sort of climate for investment at all.

bg said...
As a deflationista, I thank you for posting this minority opinion. I know you are not sold on all the points. Deflation is about destruction of unproductive ventures. There is global overcapacity in every area, and a concentration of wealth from unproductive industries (yes, Wall street). Keynes and the Monetarists have created a mindset that acts of money can overcome acts of stupidity.

You can't throw enough money at this to compensate for the rapid extraction of capital from folly. We should be putting all our energy into getting money into self sustaining productive enterprises. There are plenty. Detroit is not one of them.

bg said...
Andy Harless on deflation and inflation
Jesse said...
Money Supply (deflation and inflation) are always and everywhere a policy decision in a purely fiat regime. What the Fed and Treasury cannot manipulate as easily is the velocity of money, aka the aggregate demand component.

The mind rebels at the fact, and invents reasons 'why the Fed cannot do this, and why private borrowing must do that.'

If anything the last six month ought to have put some real meat on the bones of Bernanke's assertion about the Fed's printing press. The only reason we have not yet reaped the benefits of his handiwork in inflation is because they are trying to drain as they liquify, a noble pursuit.

But wait until the Keynesian and Monetarist cocktail party gets seriously underway next year. And when foreign money starts tiring of subsidizing the US as LB suggests, the artficial underpinnings of the US dollar will vaporize.

The bogeyman is Japan. But people ignore the several hundred other examples of the inflationary impact of credit and monetary manipulation. Japan's trouble was a pure policy decision made in combination with their desire to maintain a high export driven low consumption economy, combined with a stable and aging popupulation because of a bias against immigration.

so, we'll see which way this goes, but there was not a lot of new material in LB's essay.

I have a strong feeling that what does result will be as shocking as the stagflation we had in the 1970's that had every economimist's jaw dropping and mouth agape.

Balmain Bear said...
I greatly admired LB's parting shot, however felt his analysis made sense only in the pure crucible of economics. In the real world I think political economy will determine our fate...

"In the meanwhile, the peons just might wise up, hide any surplus more securely and organise mutual defense against further attacks to ensure that their peon children prosper and the brigands die off. That would be the end of Bretton Woods II, and the rise of China, India, the Gulf and other productive and/or resource rich states which invest surplus in domestic productivity and regional growth"

LBs analogy is posing a false dichotomy. There are no peons in the current world economy.

A better analogy is that we have competing feudal fiefdoms. At the top of which sit corrupt elites that are complicit in a vast cross-border covenant designed to perpetuate their own power and wealth.

In the Chinese fiefdom, savings are controlled by a landed technocracy. That clic deploys those savings in such a way that its peasants invest in production destined for the neighbouring fiefdom. Its does not invest in domestic productivity nor in services that support its local citizenry. It invests in neighburing demand. This system has created vast over-capacity in the local economy.

The ruling technocrats know that without the demand of the neighbouring fiefdom this over-capacity will collapse and its power will be threatened by peasant riots. The elite also understand that its immature capital markets, no reserve currency and lack of legal clarity mean it is unable to finance its own economy. Moreover, its default politics depends largely on political pull and access to regulatory forbearance and central bank or treasury finance. Just the way they like it.

They will therefore continue to finance the neighbours ad nauseum.

Deflation may have its way but not through a collapse of foreign flows into the US.

Blissex said...
"high standards for financial disclosure and generally strong investor protection. If investors come to doubt the fairness of the markets, or think that the rot in its economy is not being cleared out and will undermine growth, that will hold investment back."

The one reason why investor put their money in the USA is simply political risk: the USA has been run by rentier/business elites for its entire history and there is no political risk unlike in China, India, or even the UK.

Only Switzerland comes close in investors' minds, for the same reason, and indeed capital flight money goes either to Geneve/Zurich (from Europe, Middle East and Africa) or to NYC (from Latin America and Asia).

Since political risk is about the risk of losing part or all of the principal, not the returns, 0% USA or Swiss returns don't discourage capital-flight investors. Indeed for quite a while Switzerland had negative interest rates (via a tax on foreign capital) and this did not much to stop the action.

Apart from returns mattering a lot less than political risk protection, everybody knows that the USA capital markets are rigged and unfair, and the USA was still the target of capital flight when insider trading was legal. That is considered a minor risk by capital flight investors, and anyhow there are treasuries and minus.

Blissex said...
"Money Supply (deflation and inflation) are always and everywhere a policy decision in a purely fiat regime. What the Fed and Treasury cannot manipulate as easily is the velocity of money, aka the aggregate demand component."

The terminology here is not quite right: "Money Supply" is the combined product of quantity and velocity, and both of these are ill-defined, never mind the product.

Not only it is difficult to define what the quantity of money is, but whatever it is the authorities can only control part of it, as a lot of that is just credit, and since the USA government effectively abolished fractional reserves in 1995 and the Japanese government lending Yen at 0%, the availability of credit (money? quasi-money?) has been in the hands of bank boards.

Anonymous said...
Deflation until late 2010 followed by the collapse of the Treasury market bubble and the dollar. Too much debt is the problem and adding more debt will onlly make it worse.
Anonymous said...
Agree with LB on his analysis of rewards for investing in US markets. This should result in an deflationary environment for ASSETS. Who would want to invest in US assets / treasuries / dollars with the current state of the economy, massive money printing, and rigged financial markets.

However, its also clear that the Fed will print money until the press collapses from overuse. After all, the voter will have to be supported somehow. This will likely play out in inflation in the US but also for those countries that maintain the dollar peg. In other words, if you want to export to the US at current exchange rates, you will have to sterilise dollars and lots of them. If the Chinese want to maintain their peg and are willing to accept dollars for their hard work and manufactured goods for the benefit of the US consumer, well, lets drown them in dollars.
The US dollar is going to drop and drop hard in 2009.

My vote for
Asset deflation
Consumer inflation

DownSouth said...
Jesse said...

"Money Supply (deflation and inflation) are always and everywhere a policy decision in a purely fiat regime."

That is the most accurate thing that has been said here.

While I am certainly sympathetic to much of what London Banker has to say, I believe his analysis to be more transformative than descriptive. There is absolutely no logic to his argument that we require the aid of foreign investors in order to massively inflate the number of dollars in circulation. Some constituencies will benefit from inflation. Others will benefit from deflation. London Banker is advocating for those constituencies that will benefit from deflation. But politics, and the resultant policy decisions, will ultimately determine whether it's inflation or deflation.

I'm intrigued by attempts like this to pass policy prescriptions (and again, don't get me wrong, I'm not necessarily adverse to London Banker's policy prescriptions) off as if they were some sort of inevitable outcome. Robert L. Heilbroner in Behind the Veil of Economics does a wonderful job of ilucidating how these games are played. As Heilbroner concludes, by "screening out all aspects of domination and acquiescence, as well as those of affect and trust, it [the discipline of economics] encourages us to understand capitalism as fundamentally 'economic'--not social or political--in nature."

For me a bigger question is why there is such a drive to create the impression that there is some "invisible hand" that makes all this happen, when in reality there is a Wizard of Oz that has his hands firmly on the levers. The only thing I can figure out is that it gives the Wizard plausible deniability. It's like extrordinary rendition: the government can always claim it is someone else or something else that is causing the pain.

Duck Diversified said...
We should be mindful that politicians and their financial cronies have an interest in maintaining a floor, hence all the bailout action. I accept London Banker's thesis or prediction that the end is nigh. The Wizard of Oz was smoke and mirrors, unable to work real miracles.

Yves, thank you very sincerely for helping us think this through and unique timely coverage.

patrick neid said...
The banker finally gets it and Bagehot has always been right. The reason they are not listened to is because it is too simple. We like our stuff complicated.

Even a casual study of previous bubbles going back several hundred years leaves the reader with only two major observations--there's absolutely nothing you can do to put Humpty Dumpty back together and/but they will still try. That's where we are today.

Another major mistake that activist market historians make, Bernanke is getting his chance now, is mistaking hindsight for clairvoyance going forward. It is easy to forget that the mistakes made by the New Dealers were mistakes made by folks who were considered the best and brightest of their times. Each succeeding generation of the best and brightest always make the mistake of thinking that they are, today, the best ever. Never does it enter their minds that, whereas every past group of interventionists failed that maybe post bubble traumas are not open to intervention. This is what the Austrians and Bagehot understand.

Furthermore the lack of this understanding makes the situation worse. The simple fact of intervening postpones the curative powers of the market itself. Bagehot has always been right, make money available but at rates above the current freight. Then stand aside and leave the market alone. Only time can remedy the "splat" effects of a bubble. Meanwhile protect your currency and reward prior savers.

I have said from day one that the "plans" would all fail. Not because I have some great insight or a brilliant economic mind in sifting through academic data points but a simple market historian's approach---there has never been successful post bubble interventions. When bubbles burst everything returns to the original point of departure. Interventions only slow or speed up that process. The other fact, they are all deflationary.

We don't even have to discuss the absolute insanity of the idea that a small group of people anywhere has the knowledge and foresight to manipulate seven billion peoples economic transactions on a daily basis to effect a certain outcome and resolve problems that they never saw coming in the first place. Wow, the absurdity of it all.

And finally the constant screaming of fire in the theater is not helpful. They are not messengers they are arsonists. Wagner and cohorts being the last example.

DownSouth said...
Blissex said...

"The one reason why investor put their money in the USA is simply political risk: the USA has been run by rentier/business elites for its entire history and there is no political risk unlike in China, India, or even the UK."

Blissex, even though there is much truth to this, it is not the whole truth.

Kevin Phillips in Wealth and Democracy does a stellar job of describing the political ebb and flow in the United States as it relates to wealth. There were indeed eras--the Gilded Age, the Roaring Twenties and the period from about 1980 to present--when the rentier/business elites you describe did "run" things. But there were other eras, such as those under the administrations of Jefferson, the two Roosevelts, Washington, Jackson and Lincoln, where the power and influence of bankers, financiers and corporate elites was greatly rolled back and kept in check by a more populist--and democratic--polity. It is during these more populist periods that the "high standards for financial disclosure and generally strong investor protection" came into being.

Your highly bowlderized and revisionist recounting of history, especially when it comes to the past performance of economic elites, seems to be in keeping with all libertarian ideologues, whether they be of the Aurstrian or Chicago varieties. Since history doesn't fit well within their doctrines, they find it necessary to distort the historical record so that it does.

Chris said...
Lune
On the UK and BRD. There most likely will be some kind of agreement between the two. But it will be a negotiated one. The final result most probably will involve some arrangement for Britain to join the Euro which would free Germany to join a Euro-wide stimulus package. France would approve this. It will include some settlement of the eastern EC members issues. How that result is brought about, and over what time frame will be interesting. The key issue of course will be the UK's future relationship to the dollar. There were also currency issues at play in the 20's and 30's. I would imagine, given how serious the whole situation is, that the UK would be quite capable of doing something generally unexpected and emulating Churchill's decision to go off the gold standard. I doubt there would be much upside at this point to tighter integration with the US. Mandelson's return and the deal with the Russians over their oligarchs' foreign investments kind of point to UK participation in the European discussion with the Russians. Otherwise, time will no doubt tell, but things will not continue on their present path for with the present choice of policies the continuing mess remains unsustainable.
mab said...
LB,

You are a big hypocrite. It's clear you are a rent seeker, rather than a wealth creator. You whine about the failings of government yet want the protection of a government. You ARE the problem. With wealth comes responsibility. Somehow you fail to see this. You expect wealth from wealth without work. Something for nothing always leads to nothing for something.

There are NO guaranteed real returns. That's life. Grow up you spoiled brat. Nobody owes you savings a living let alone a real return. You want a guaranteed victory in order to "compete." What a seriously warped view of capitalism.

Take your "savings" and hide them in a mattress. I seriously doubt you would ever directly invest in a competitive endeavor.

DownSouth said...
patrick neid,

Again, yours is a highly revisionist view of history, the historical revisions being necessary for hitory to fit neatly within your economic dognma.

As Phillips sets out in Wealth and Democracy, all "Capitalist Heyday" periods--the Gilded Age, the Roaring Twenties, the Great Bull Market of the 1980s and 1990s (and the Great Housing Bull Market of 2000 to 2007)--share certain characteristics. These include conservative politics and ideology; skepticism of government--laissez-faire and deregulation--and emphais on market and the private sector; the exaltation of business, entrepreneurialism, and the achievements of free enterprise; aspects of survival-of-the-fittest thinking; reduction and elimination of taxes, especially on corporations, personal incomes or inheritance; and rising levels of inequality.

But it was Reinhold Neibuhr, in The Irony of American History, who rendered what was probably the most devastating critique of the entire libertarian enterprise:

"The ironic contrast between Jeffersonian hopes and fears for Americans and the actual realities is increased by the exchange of ideological weapons between the early and the later Jeffersonians. The early Jeffersonians sought to keep political power weak, discouraging both the growth of federal power in relation to the States and confining political control over economic life to the States. They feared that such power would be compounded with the economic power of the privileged and used against the less favored. Subsequently the wielders of great economic power adopted the Jeffersonian maxim that the best possible government is the least possible government. The American democracy, as every other healthy democracy, had learned to use the more equal distribution of political power, inherent in universal suffrage, as leverage against the tendency toward concentration of power in economic life. Culminating in the "New Deal," national governments, based upon an alliance of farmers, workers and middle classes, have used the power of the state to establish minimal standards of 'welfare' in housing, social security, health services, etc. Naturally, the higher income groups benefited less from these minimal standards of justice, and paid a proportionately higher cost for these than the proponents of the measures of a 'welfare state.' The former, therefore, used the ideology of Jeffersonianism to counter these tendencies; while the classes in society which had Jefferson's original interest in equality discarded his ideology because they were less certain than he that complete freedom in economic relations would inevitably make for equlity."

"In this development the less privileged classes developed a realistic appreciation of the factor of power in social life, while the privileged classes tried to preserve the illusion of classical liberalism that power is not an important element in man's social life. They recognize the force of interest; but they continue to assume that the competition of interests will make for justice without political or moral regulation. This would be possible only if the various powers which support interest were fairly equally divided, which they never are.

"Since America developed as a bourgeois society, with only remnants of the older feudal culture to inform its ethos, it naturally inclined toward the bourgeois ideology which neglects the factor of power in the human community and equates interest with rationality.

"Such a society regards all social relations as essentially innoncent because it believes self-interest to be inherently harmless. It is, in common with Marxism, blind to the lust for power in the motives of men; but also to the injustices which flow from the disbalances of power in the community."

Your talk of the "mistakes made by the New Dealers" also betrays your ideological predelection. As Phillips points out:

"Politics...often lends itself to moneymaking, but its higher levels of popular respect--generally missing in the late twentieth century--are reserved for those who have fought the forces of avarice."

K T Cat said...
Yves,
Mish did an outstanding analysis of the situation and made clear that we're in a deflationary period.
Independent Accountant said...
YS:
I read the LB and Buiter posts; I regularly read both. I think LB is all wet here. So wet, I wonder if he wrote this post "tongue in cheek". Is LB serious? Jesse's got this right. Our "money supply" is misnamed because supply is a flow number, a schedule of quantities at prices over time. What we have is a "stock" number, a balance sheet number. Consider, if M2 is say $8 trillion, it's $8 trillion right now! There is no time dimension, hence it's a balance sheet number. That said, what we call "money" is the monetary base multiplied by the "money multiplier", which currently is decreasing. When it gets going again, measured "inflation" will soar. Study the German 1918-1923 experience. With fiat money worldwide, I can't credit the defaltion case.
purple said...
Asia and the ME won't have any savings when this over with. They'll be too busy propping up their economies.

The weakness in countries with reserves is already apparent in Russia. It's quite likely that China will go from 12 % GDP growth to 0% in less than a year.

A lot of people are acting like this is the 9th inning, when it's still the 3rd, or even warm ups.

DailyVus said...
In the same way, I am disgusted by the central banks preserving the privileges of the financial elite in preference to the jobs, incomes and businesses powering the real economy

Where was the disgust when the term "downsizing" was invented to disguise the appalling (to anyone not Wall Street brain dead) "firing" thousands to the applause of instantly higher share prices. Greed is too mild a term.

I'll save ithat for another post.

DailyVus said...
Apologies

the previous quote is from London's Friday, 28 November 2008

"What We Value Is What We Save In a Crisis"

Gentlemutt said...
Fascinating arguments, all this, thanks to all for the education.

In trying to sift through contending historical interpretations, it is unclear whether there is substantive disagreement on the matter of policy prescriptions, say for the USA, nowadays.

For example, does DownSouth disagree with Mr. Neid on the matter of Bagehot's preference for rewarding savers in the aftermath of a bubble? Does Mr. Neid disagree with DownSouth's apparent preference for imposing stronger and more clear regulatory oversight in pursuit of widespread confidence in the rules of the game? I feel like the grandpa in Moonstruck, where this is all very confusing, so a clarification on what this thoughtful panel recommends govt should do now would be much appreciated. Grazie.

fresno dan said...
Yves "Now to my doubts about the proposed remedies, namely monster stimulus and monetary easing"
and
"In the US, the claim generally made is that the US did not emerge conclusively from the Depression until it engaged in massive wartime spending starting in 1939-40, and therefore a stimulus of perhaps that large a magnitude is required. However, quite a lot happened between 1930 and 1939, including going off the gold standard, the securities law reforms of 1933 and 1934, the creation of the FDIC, refinancing homeowner debt to longer-term mortgages via the Homeowner's Loan Corporation, and the closure of a lot of business, some of which were probably victims of circumstance, but others probably deserved to be put out of their misery."

Agreed.


Debt held by the government is no worse, AND no better than privately held debt. The question I always have (and cannot be definitively answered - I've read various suppositions) is how much debt can the US amass before bondholders come to the conclusion that it is an uneconomic proposition? If it happens, I expect it will be sudden.

[Dec 07, 2008] Deflation virus is moving the policy test beyond the 1930s extremes - Telegraph

We are beyond the extremes of the 1930s. The frontiers of monetary policy are being pushed to limits that may now test viability of paper currencies and modern central banking.

You cannot drop below zero. So what next if the credit markets refuse to thaw? Yes, Japan visited and survived this policy Hell during its lost decade, but that was a local affair in an otherwise booming global economy. It tells us nothing.

This time we are all going down together. There is no deus ex machina to lift us out. Certainly not China, which is the most vulnerable of all.

As the risk grows, officials at the highest level of the British Government have begun to circulate a six-year-old speech by Ben Bernanke – at the time of its writing, a garrulous kid governor at the US Federal Reserve. Entitled Deflation: Making Sure It Doesn't Happen Here, it is the manual of guerrilla tactics for defeating slumps by monetary means.

"The US government has a technology, called a printing press, that allows it to produce as many US dollars as it wishes at essentially no cost," he said.

Critics had great fun with this when Bernanke later became Fed chief. But the speech is best seen as a thought experiment by a Princeton professor thinking aloud during the deflation mini-scare of 2002.

His point was that central banks never run out of ammunition. They have an inexhaustible arsenal. The world's fate now hangs on whether he was right (which is probable), or wrong (which is possible).

As a scholar of the Great Depression, Bernanke does not think that sliding prices can safely be allowed to run their course. "Sustained deflation can be highly destructive to a modern economy," he said.

Once the killer virus becomes lodged in the system, it leads to a self-reinforcing debt trap – the real burden of mortgages rises, year after year, house prices falling, year after year. The noose tightens until you choke. Subtly, it shifts wealth from workers to bondholders. It is reactionary poison. Ultimately, it leads to civic revolt. Democracies do not tolerate such social upheaval for long. They change the rules.

Bernanke's central claim is that the big guns of monetary policy were never properly deployed during the Depression, or during the early years of Japan's bust, so no wonder the slumps dragged on.

The Fed can create money out of thin air and mop up assets on the open market, like a sovereign sugar daddy. "Sufficient injections of money will ultimately always reverse a deflation."

Bernanke said the Fed can "expand the menu of assets that it buys". US Treasury bonds top the list, but it can equally purchase mortgage securities from US agencies such as Fannie, Freddie and Ginnie, or company bonds, or commercial paper. Any asset will do.

The Fed can acquire houses, stocks, or a herd of Texas Longhorn cattle if it wants. It can even scatter $100 bills from helicopters. (Actually, Japan is about to do this with shopping coupons).

All the Fed needs is emergency powers under Article 13 (3) of its code. This "unusual and exigent circumstances" clause was indeed invoked – very quietly – in March to save the US investment bank Bear Stearns.

There has been no looking back since. Last week the Fed began printing money to buy mortgage debt directly. The aim is to drive down the long-term interest rates used for most US home loans. The Bernanke speech is being put into practice, almost to the letter.

No doubt, such reflation a l'outrance can "work", but what is the exit strategy? The policy leaves behind a liquidity lake. The risk is that this will flood the system once the credit pipes are unblocked. The economy could flip abruptly from deflation to hyper-inflation.

Nobel Laureate Robert Mundell warned last week that America faces disaster unless the Bernanke policy is reversed immediately. This is a minority view, but one held by a disturbingly large number of theorists. History will judge.

Most central bankers suffer from a déformation professionnelle. Those shaped by the 1970s are haunted by ghosts of libertine excess. Those like Bernanke who were shaped by the 1930s live with their Depression poltergeists.

His original claim to fame was work on the "credit channel" causes of slumps. Bank failures can snowball out of control as the "financial accelerator" kicks in. The cardinal error of the 1930s was to let lending contract.

This is why he went nuclear in January, ramming through the most dramatic rates cuts in Fed history. Events have borne him out.

A case can be made that Bernanke's pre-emptive blitz has greatly reduced the likelihood of a catastrophe. It was no mean feat given that he had to face down a simmering revolt earlier this year from the Fed's regional banks.

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Monetary stimulus is a better option than fiscal sprees that leave us saddled with public debt – the path that nearly wrecked Japan.

Yes, I backed the Brown stimulus package – with a clothes-peg over my nose – but only as a one-off emergency. Public spending should be a last resort, as Keynes always argued.

Of course, Bernanke should not be let off the hook too lightly. Let us not forget that he was deeply complicit in creating the disaster we now face. He was cheerleader of Alan Greenspan's easy-money stupidities from 2003-2006. He egged on debt debauchery.

It was he who provided the theoretical underpinnings of the Greenspan doctrine that one could safely ignore housing and stock bubbles because the Fed could simply "clean up afterwards". Not so simply, it turns out.

As Bernanke said in his 2002 speech: "the best way to get out of trouble is not to get into it in the first place". Too late now.

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[Dec 4, 2008]Deflation, alcohol abuse, and asset bubbles

December 03, 2008 | The Mess That Greenspan Made

The more commentary that appears in the mainstream financial media on the subject of "deflation", the more the relationship between our bubble-economy and this powerful word is starting to sound like the debate over whether alcoholism is an addiction or a disease.

As noted previously, when they set out to write about "deflation" today, far too many writers confuse our world of pure fiat money and government-sanctioned, serial asset bubbles with an earlier era of sound money. That is, when falling consumer prices were commonplace, presenting great difficulty for both the economy and the banking system when people began hoarding money in anticipation of lower prices.

This behavior made sense in the 1800s.

For example, if you lived during the late 19th century, you could look back a hundred years and see basically zero inflation. Given this view of the world, you could be pretty sure that this trend would continue far into the future.

Why not wait for prices of goods and services to bottom out before buying?

Fast forward more than a hundred years and you have meteoric advances and declines in stocks and housing compounded by wild swings in commodity prices - crude oil at $85 a barrel in January, then $147 in July, and then $46 in December - all of this presenting a dizzying price picture to consumers, but a picture that should not be confused with a world of zero inflation and sound money.

Increasingly, it seems as though writers with too short a view of history are trying to legitimize the world's bubble-economies (likely setting the stage for the next bubble's inflation in the process) by creating a new bogeyman in "deflation", akin to viewing alcohol abuse as a disease rather than an addiction that too few have the will to break.

Typical of this characterization of today's economic ills is this story in USA Today:

Deflation: Bargains abound, this could be a problem
Everything is on sale. And that's not a good thing.

Consumer prices in October fell at the fastest pace in more than 60 years, sucked down by the rapidly deteriorating economy. The prices of oil, food, cars, clothing and electronics have all plunged. Home prices continue to swoon and so do stock prices.

As the early reports from the holiday shopping season suggest, the nationwide fire sale might seem like a boon for consumers. But it's increasing the risk that the economy could become mired in a dangerous deflationary spiral - a widespread, sustained reduction in prices. That's something that hasn't happened here since the Great Depression.

Economists say it's too early to tell whether deflation has set in - and many say the government's aggressive responses to the credit crunch likely will prevent sustained deflation.
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A deflationary spiral can have several causes, such as a widespread glut of goods that forces manufacturers to slash prices. In the current crisis, the bursting of the housing bubble has forced home prices down, pulling down the prices of raw materials, cars and even stocks.

As prices fall, consumers eventually stop spending, either because they are worried about their jobs, or because they figure they can get lower prices later. Companies start laying off workers because lower prices have pushed down - or eliminated - their profits. That, in turn, means even less demand.
A slowdown in consumer spending because workers are fearful of losing their jobs, perhaps realizing for the first time ever that they can't continue to borrow and spend like drunken sailors, is a completely understandable reaction to the current economic condition.

But, aside from the very short-term, to think that consumers will not spend because they see lower prices for consumer goods in the future is ridiculous. We've had almost a hundred years of non-stop inflation and, despite the confusion created by the bursting of asset bubbles all around them, consumers understand quite well that, over the long-term, prices for domestic goods and services go up, not down.

Even in the case where prices for imported goods have been falling for years - electronics and clothing, to name just two - falling prices have had not resulted in lower spending.

Yet, for some reason, writers continue to think that it might.

There aren't too many who understand this issue as it should be understood, but one of them is Robert Higgs who writes at the Mises Institute and offers the same critique of reporting on "deflation" today.
Nonsense about Deflation
We are now hearing ominous warnings about imminent deflation. Checking the welcome page at AOL this morning, I see that the lead item in the financial news section heralds "The Looming Threat of Deflation." This headline encapsulates two highly problematic ideas. The first is that deflation would necessarily be a bad thing. The second is that deflation is likely to occur in the near term.
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You can see clearly that the rate of economic growth and the rate of price-level change have been independent, at least within the ranges of these variables in US economic history. (Hyperinflation or hyperdeflation would be another matter: either would be devastating by making economic calculation and long-term contracting virtually impossible.)

Any decent economics teacher makes sure that before the students have gone more than a week or two, they have mastered the difference between absolute (nominal) and relative (real) prices. All of economic analysis hinges on this understanding. Yet practicing politicians, investment gurus, news media hyperventilators, and others who play important roles in influencing public opinion are completely lacking in this basic understanding. The upshot is a destructive bias in favor of secular inflation, with the risk of periodic bouts of rapid inflation.

Which brings us to the second question: for better or worse, does deflation actually loom at present? If it does, its occurrence will surprise me greatly, because the Fed has been creating base money as if there were no tomorrow, and if the bailouts continue, as seems likely, more of the same is virtually certain. So far, the huge spurt in base money has simply been absorbed and held by the banks in the form of (legally) excess reserves, but the likelihood that the banks will sit on $268 billion of excess reserves forever is nil. Once they feel more secure, their loans and investments will go forth in search of a higher yield than the Fed pays them (since a recent change in policy) on their reserves, and at that point the banking system's money multiplier will kick in with terrific force.

In short, given the monetary conditions now prevailing, the greater threat by far is inflation, not deflation. And contrary to what the investment "experts," the politicians, and the mainstream economists believe, inflation is not a benign element in the economy's operation. It is, as it has always been, the most dangerous and destructive form of taxation.
At times like this it is much more convenient to have an easily identifiable bogeyman at the ready - the word "deflation" fits this role quite well - rather than dealing with the much more significant underlying problems of a fundamentally flawed monetary system and misguided economic policies that have been all too dependent upon debasing the currency and fostering asset bubbles over the last hundred years, a process that has accelerated sharply over the last twenty and may now be coming to a painful conclusion.

6 comments:

Nick said...
I reiterate my previous point, which can be found here, and say that they are both kinda right. We are experiencing investment asset value deflation, which will likely continue for a while, until the economic environment for private investment is perceived as more healthy again (unlikely under a Democrat administration, so at least 4 years). On the other hand, as the government back-fills the shrinking private-debt hole with newly created real money in a misguided, moronic, and ultimately disastrous attempt to prevent a healthy market price correction, real inflation will likely also dramatically increase, causing a stagflation scenario. All of this is easily predictable, yet also unavoidable with the idiots in charge.

Bad times, they are a-comin.
getyourselfconnected said...
Myself,
I would rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy! During this economic downturn I do not drink anymore; of course I do not drink any less either.
Anonymous said...
When I was about to graduate from the University of Illinois at Urbana back in 1958 I took an econ course from a visiting professor from Harvard. He was great!

When he was a grad student at Harvard back about 1913 he accompanied his econ professor to the secret meeting at Jeckel Island, Georgia where the Federal Reserve Act was crafted by the bankers for the bankers. He was all sold on it then but now (1958 and some years before then) he decried it as the creation "...of an engine of inflation."

I remembered his warning!
Anonymous said...
Excellent Tim!
From Wikipedia: "Bogeyman can be used metaphorically to denote a person or thing of which someone has an irrational fear."
How true for deflation.
Anonymous said...
"We are experiencing investment asset value deflation, which will likely continue for a while, until the economic environment for private investment is perceived as more healthy again (unlikely under a Democrat administration, so at least 4 years)"

Well, no. The evidence is that the economy always does better under a Democratic administration than Republic.

weinerdog43

[Dec 3, 2008] Grant Sees U.S. Working Toward `Disastrous Inflation'

It might be that inflation is a real threat not deflation...
Dec. 3 | Bloomberg

James Grant, editor of Grant's Interest Rate Observer, talks with Bloomberg's Tom Keene about his new book, ``Mr. Market Miscalculates: The Bubble Years and Beyond,'' inflation risk in the U.S., business failures and financial history, and Federal Reserve monetary policy.

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[Dec 3, 2008] Martin Wolf Says Big Stimulus Programs by Big Debtor Countries Will End in Tears

Looks like Krugman is out of touch with reality... Not the first time, not the last... Are 401K investors ready for a dislocation in the treasury market? Boomers can became busters...

One thing I have found troubling is the near-unanimity in the US that we must Do Something about the burgeoning economic crisis, and that Something is big time monetary and fiscal stimulus.

Near unanimity is almost never a good thing in the political and policy realm, since conditions and options are sufficiently complicated so as to make it unlikely that there is a magic bullet.

Not to beat a dead horse, but we have been struck by the number of analogies made to the Great Depression that strike us as wrongheaded. The first is the idea that throwing money at "stimulus" will actually do the job, I see a lot of back of the envelope calculations of what % of GDP it will take to do the job.

But as the misguided tax rebates showed, it is quite possible to devise programs that are largely ineffective (roughly 80% of the rebates went to savings or debt reduction, which is a form of savings). A lot of money has similarly been thrown at the "get credit markets working again" program. And what are the results? Consumer and small business credit slashed, private securitizations a thing of the past, almost no debtor in possession financing (crucial for Chapter 11 bankruptcies), letters of credit scarce and costly, A2/P2 commercial paper at record spreads, and the Fed and Treasury still seeming to create, increase, or extend programs on virtually a weekly basis.

So what economist Tom Ferguson calls the "hydraulic Keynesian" approach might not be as successful as its advocates suggest. And that assumes it is the right remedy. We have argued that Keynes himself would not be on board with the idea of the US leading the stimulus charge:

The operating assumption behind US policy now is seeing the US situation as parallel to that of the US in the Depression, and taking the view, based on the fact that the US seemed to finally shake off the slump with the demands of wartime production and the unprecedented budget deficits that accompanied them. But there were considerable worries in 1946 that the US would fall back into Depression. The conventional view is that pent-up demand carried the US through, after a sharp but very short downturn in 1946.

However, would this strategy have worked in a peacetime setting? The US also emerged from its slump to a world with a tremendous amount of industrial production destroyed by the war. Thus, the US, whose problem in the late 1920s (which didn't look like a problem at the time) was that it was a huge exporter, to the point where it sucked up so much gold as to be destabilizing to the financial system, could with 50% of world GDP, revert to its preferred old role with less damaging side effects. Had the rest of the world gone into wartime levels of stimulus along with the US, without the loss of productive capacity, would there ever have been an end of the beggar-thy-neighbor trade policies of the 1930s? International trade didn't just fall, "collapsed" is not an uncommon characterization of the degree of contraction....

Similarly, as we have said before, the US was a world-dominating exporter, as China is now, and had the biggest gold reserves, as China now had the largest FX reserves. Thus it is China that needs to undergo a huge-scale stimulus program to make up for the loss of demand from the US. Keynes, in the 1930s, advocated that the US make up for the demand loss rather than expecting the US's overindebted European trade partners to continue overconsuming....

Yet what is being advocated as a Keynesian remedy is in fact the opposite of what Keynes called for in his day. Keynes' prescription then would lead to a global rebalancing, with the US depending more on internally generated demand and less on its foreign partners (who were defaulting on their government debt). But if it were successfully deployed in the US now, it would lead to a continuation, of our excessive consumption and China's underdevelopment of its internal demand.

Martin Wolf, in today's Financial Times, comes to a similar conclusion:
With businesses uninterested in spending more on investment than their retained earnings, and households cutting back, despite easy monetary policy, fiscal deficits are exploding. Even so, deficits have not been large enough to sustain growth in line with potential. So deliberate fiscal boosts are also being undertaken...

This then is the endgame for the global imbalances. On the one hand are the surplus countries. On the other are these huge fiscal deficits. So deficits aimed at sustaining demand will be piled on top of the fiscal costs of rescuing banking systems bankrupted in the rush to finance excess spending by uncreditworthy households via securitised lending against overpriced houses.

This is not a durable solution to the challenge of sustaining global demand. Sooner or later....willingness to absorb government paper and the liabilities of central banks will reach a limit. At that point crisis will come. To avoid that dire outcome the private sector of these economies must be able and willing to borrow; or the economy must be rebalanced, with stronger external balances as the counterpart of smaller domestic deficits. Given the overhang of private debt, the first outcome looks not so much unlikely as lethal. So it must be the latter.

In normal times, current account surpluses of countries that are either structurally mercantilist – that is, have a chronic excess of output over spending, like Germany and Japan – or follow mercantilist policies – that is, keep exchange rates down through huge foreign currency intervention, like China – are even useful. In a crisis of deficient demand, however, they are dangerously contractionary.

Countries with large external surpluses import demand from the rest of the world. In a deep recession, this is a "beggar-my-neighbour" policy. It makes impossible the necessary combination of global rebalancing with sustained aggregate demand. John Maynard Keynes argued just this when negotiating the post-second world war order.

In short, if the world economy is to get through this crisis in reasonable shape, creditworthy surplus countries must expand domestic demand relative to potential output. How they achieve this outcome is up to them. But only in this way can the deficit countries realistically hope to avoid spending themselves into bankruptcy.

The UK is closer to the endgame than the US, so it is easier for them to perceive the risks (Willem Buiter has detailed the parallels between the UK and Iceland). The US, with the advantage of its deep Treasury markets and the reserve currency, has more rope with which to hang itself and its hapless creditors.
Anonymous said...
What's left out of this picture is a section in Wolf's article you didn't quote:

"Some argue that an attempt by countries with external deficits to promote export-led growth, via exchange-rate depreciation, is a beggar-my-neighbour policy. This is the reverse of the truth. It is a policy aimed at returning to balance. The beggar-my-neighbour policy is for countries with huge external surpluses to allow a collapse in domestic demand. They are then exporting unemployment. If the countries with massive surpluses allow this to occur they cannot be surprised if deficit countries even resort to protectionist measures."

The policy choices should not viewed as huge American stimulus OR rebalancing by Americans saving more and consuming less.

The policy choice is huge American stimulus PLUS large dollar depreciation, to restore American manufacturing.

Yves Smith said...

Anon of 2:39 AM,

With all due respect, how do we "restore manufacturing" in this country? Blue collar work is demonized; look at the outrage against the UAW versus white collar workers in investment banks that have created products that have on balance proved detrimental, drove their companies into the ground, and took out vastly greater comp? Objectively, they did far greater damage and earned far greater rewards.

We no longer have factories, related infrastructure, or managerial expertise in many industries where we were once meaningful players. The shoe business is my favorite example. There is no reason we should have ceded it entirely, but we did.

And you don't just need workers, you need managers. How many capable people want to run a factory, or have the skills? My father ran paper mill startups in the coated paper business (very fussy manufacturing, unlike newsprint, and with a startup, you go from zero to 500 to 1000 people in 2 years, people who for the most part never operated this massive equipment. And getting all the custom machinery to work is no piece of cake either. Something is always botched. A two year startup, where the startup costs are 20% of the capital costs, which today would be $1 billion plus, is a good outcome. A bad start up is an ongoing hemorrhage).

Despite being a difficult character and not a good marketer, he had a very robust consulting business in his later years because pretty much no one in the industry could shake down operations like he could. And how many people want to live in the boonies, which is where manufacturing plants are located (you don't put them on expensive land).

Investors would have to believe a cheap dollar was more or less a permanent condition to bet on manufacturing on a sufficient scale to get our trade balance back in order. And even then, we have major rebuilding before us.

Note that the recent improvement in our trade balance was largely commodities.

ndk said...
Martin thinks; others blindly apply principles without looking at conditions. I've been screaming about what a huge mistake further intervention and stimulus here would be at the top of my lungs for the last month, and I'm sorry to everyone who had to suffer through the repetition. Stimulus focused on increasing US demand can only make the situation worse, and we're ignoring our vulgarly obvious national insolvency.

The beggar-my-neighbour policy is for countries with huge external surpluses to allow a collapse in domestic demand.

Bingo. There can be no solution until this fundamental misalignment is fixed, and because that fix would induce tremendous pain for an already bleeding China, I don't think it's going to happen unless there's a true miracle of diplomacy. Given how trusted Hank was by China, and his strong attempts in better times to make them revalue, I don't believe in this miracle.

Yet what is being advocated as a Keynesian remedy is in fact the opposite of what Keynes called for in his day.

Krugman better read this. Nobody has disappointed me more than he, because while many bad economists don't, he does know better. I've come to believe he's just seizing an opportunity to get admittedly needed domestic priority adjustment done under a false flag. He's better than that, and it makes me sad.

rahuldeodhar said...
I dont see any reason why exchange rate realignment + concerted international financial regulation cannot solve this problem.

Global banking regulation needs reform and Shiller has also highlighted this his new book (I just saw the interview - waiting for the book). There is something fundamentally wrong with accounting policies that let banks lower capital requirements based on "perceived" asset price increases. The same regulation also creates holes in balance sheets as asset prices falls. This regulation needs to be suspended for sometime - (upside suspension), banks be forced to take all the write-downs marking the assets to agreed upon prices (lets call them steady state prices) - and then made to raise capital enough to sustain them.

Secondly exchange rate realignment is absolutely must. I have been harping about this on this blog comments for long now. US must become producer and China and surplus countries must become consumers. Without this there is no resolution of this crisis.

Finally, there is likely to be a diplomatic war to protect and isolate the consumers an keep the consumer to itself. Such a trading barrier game will be detrimental to global prospects and will decrease the total pie.

If a big ship(US and EU) is sinking - one way is to protect your resuce boat - or save the ship. Former saves you comfortably but leaves the world with just a boat! and latter is difficult but the Ship stays so we are better off.

ndk said...

Investors would have to believe a cheap dollar was more or less a permanent condition to bet on manufacturing on a sufficient scale to get our trade balance back in order. And even then, we have major rebuilding before us.

We need to rediscover our competitive advantages beyond excellent farmland in Iowa and a greater propensity to lie. Turning on the spending booster jets before pointing ourselves in the right direction isn't a great idea.

The Internet has fundamentally busted a ton of business models. Margins have been permanently slashed, knowledge is now incredibly slippery and difficult to sell or leverage, and everyone around the world is now equally well positioned to do many jobs.

It's going to take a lot of industries and individuals a long time to adjust, and the citizens of the richer countries are generally the losers. Let's see policies put into place that will protect and help them, rather than just hitch them more tightly to the debt yoke in hopes that even more leverage can pull us through to another few years of prosperity.

Yves Smith said...

rahuldeodhar, Anon of 2:39 AM,

Another data point, Until the second half of this year, we have seen a protracted decline in the value of the dollar. Yet our savings rate continued to fall and the current account deficit rose to new highs. Now you can argue this is due to China's peg, but the point is that in a floating rate regime, we cannot simply revalue our currency (and too precipitous a fall, which we may unwittingly engineer thanks to all our debt creation, would create a destabilizing currency crisis).

And Cerberus, which bought the Mead-WestVaco paper mills (now called NewPage) in 2005 has been closing mills and cutting costs aggressively in those mills, to the point of cutting maintenance, which is an unsafe practice. That in a weakening dollar environment in a capital intensive, high skill manufacturing business.

ndk said...

Secondly exchange rate realignment is absolutely must. I have been harping about this on this blog comments for long now. US must become producer and China and surplus countries must become consumers. Without this there is no resolution of this crisis.

I agree, but I don't think China's going to do this. They're suffering plenty of internal problems and a revaluation will instantly bankrupt the PBoC, leading to a need to recapitalize it through taxing angry Chinese citizens. Not only that, but there's a lot of other peggers out there, and if only a few of them revalue, they lose out to the ones who preserve their peg. It's the OPEC problem in drag.

This is likely to lead to the real deal Smoot-Hawley, as indebted uncompetitive nations feel they have no choice but to stop the mercantilism through trade restrictions.

All of which is to say, this only gets worse.

[Dec 1, 2008] UN team warns of a hard landing for dollar next year By Harvey Morris

December 1 2008 02:00 | FT.com
The current strength of the dollar is temporary and the US currency risks a hard landing in 2009, according to a team of United Nations economists who foresaw a year ago that a US downturn would bring the global economy to a near standstill.

In their annual report on the world economy published on Monday, the economists said the dollar's sharp rebound this autumn had been driven mainly by a flight to the safety of the international reserve currency as the financial crisis spread beyond the US.

The overall trend remained a downward one, however, reflecting perceptions that the US debt position was approaching unsustainable levels. An accelerated fall of the dollar could bring new turmoil to financial markets.

"Investors might renew their flight to safety, though this time away from dollar-denominated assets, thereby forcing the US economy into a hard landing and pulling the global economy into a deeper recession," the report said.

Publication of the annual survey by the UN's Department of Economic and Social Affairs, its trade organisation Unctad and UN regional bodies, was brought forward by a month in the light of the financial crisis. It was launched in Doha to coincide with the UN-sponsored development financing conference in the Qatari capital.

The UN team said that, as the financial crisis spread beyond the US, there had been a massive shift of global financial assets into US Treasury bills, driving their yields almost to zero and pushing the dollar sharply higher. At the same time, however, the US's external debt had risen to new heights that could provoke a dollar collapse.

The report recommends reform of the international reserve system away from almost exclusive reliance on the dollar and towards a globally backed multi-currency system.

Rob Vos, a Dutch economist who heads the UN's policy and analysis division and who is responsible for the annual economic review, said the global economic pain could be eased if governments co-ordinated a spate of stimulus packages that were already under way.

"There has been a sea change in attitudes in favour of intervention and concerted action," he told the Financial Times. He welcomed statements from US president-elect Barack Obama's transition team in support of spending on infrastructure.

[Nov 28, 2008] Roubini: Policies will lead to "much higher real interest rates on public debt"

Roubini call for stag-deflation Japanese style is very suspect in view of the size of military-industrial complex in the USA...

Nov 26, 2008 | CalculatedRisk

From Dr. Roubini: Desperate Measures by Desperate Policy Makers in Desperate Times: the Fed Moves to Radically Unorthodox Policies as Economy Is in Free Fall and Stag-Deflation Deepens

Another batch of worse than awful news greeted today Americans getting ready for the Thanksgiving holiday: free falling consumption spending, collapsing new homes sales, falling consumer confidence, very high initial claims for unemployment benefits, collapsing orders for durable goods. It is hard to get any worse than this but the next few months will serve even worse macro news. At this rate of contraction as revealed by the latest data it would not be surprising if fourth quarter GDP were to fall at an annualized rate of 5-6%.
And Roubini concludes:
[T]he Fed, together with the Treasury, started to implement some of the "crazier" policy actions that we discussed last week: a) outright purchases of agency debt and MBS to the tune of a whopping $600 billion; b) another $200 billion of loans to backstop the consumer and small business credit markets (credit cards, auto loans, student loans, small business loans); c) an effective policy of aggressive quantitative easing as the balance sheet of the Fed – already grown from $800 billion to over $2 trillion – will be expanded further as most of the new bailout actions and new programs will be financed via injections of liquidity rather than issuance of public debt.

Effectively the Fed Funds rate has been abandoned as a tool of monetary policy ... the Fed is now relying on massive quantitative easing and direct purchases of private sector short term and long term debts to try to aggressively push down short term and long term market rates.
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Desperate times and desperate economic news require desperate policy actions ... The Treasury will be issuing in the next two years about $2 trillion of additional debt ... These policies – however partially necessary – will eventually leads to much higher real interest rates on the public debt and weaken the US dollar once this tsunami of implicit and explicit public liabilities and monetary debt driven by rising twin fiscal and current account deficits will hit a world where the global supply of savings is shrinking – as most countries moves to fiscal deficits thus reducing global savings – and foreign investors start to ponder the long term sustainability of the US domestic and external liabilities.

To continue to attract massive inflows of capital, the U.S. might have to start paying higher interest rates on the public debt. This is one of the concerns that Volcker (previous post) expressed in early 2005.

[Nov 27, 2008] Deflation: Here, Now

Another effect of falling prices is to increase the burden of any given amount of debt, even as banks and households are sharply paring debt, or deleveraging, in reaction to financial turmoil and a wave of bad economic news.

"The problem with negative inflation is that the real value of your debts is increasing," Societe Generale economist James Nixon said.

"In a deleveraging cycle you need negative inflation like you need a hole in the head."

[Nov 27, 2008] Central Bankers, Prime Ministers and Bond Holders Fear Deflation

Nov 19, 2008 | http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/

The big boys - such as central bankers, prime ministers and big bond holders - are afraid of the threat of deflation.

An article today in the Guardian says:

With recession now a reality in major economies from Japan to Germany, policymakers are starting to fret about the chance of a phenomenon many see as even more deadly: deflation. ***

"Deflation is probably the worst case for the financial sector because it is very difficult to overcome. Therefore all central banks are going to do everything to avoid it," European Central Bank policymaker Ewald Nowotny said on Nov. 10.***
UK prime minister Brown expressed a similar sentiment:
Prime minister Gordon Brown told the House of Commons yesterday: "Next year, the problem is deflation and the problem of inflation close to zero."
Fortune Magazine writes:
Forget about inflation. The opposite threat - deflation - is what has policymakers sweating now.***

Bankers are worried that the destruction of trillions of dollars of wealth in the collapse of the housing and stock markets will stem demand for goods of all sorts, creating the kind of falling price environment not seen here since the 1930s. Among central bankers, there is "a real sense of concern about falling inflation," says Lena Komileva, an economist at interdealer broker Tullett Prebon in London. ***

Treasury bond investors are also betting on protracted deflation (and see this).

Update: Bloomberg writes:

"The Federal Reserve put deflation back on the table as a significant policy concern,'' said Vincent Reinhart, former director of the Fed's Division of Monetary Affairs, who is now a visiting scholar at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington.

Note: I think we've already got deflation, and that it will eventually give way to hyperinflation.

[Nov 27, 2008] Consumer Prices in U.S. Decline 1%, Most on Record (Update2)

Nov. 19 (Bloomberg) -- The cost of living in the U.S. fell by the most on record as fuel costs plummeted and retailers used discounts for cars and clothing to entice consumers hobbled by job losses and sinking home values.

Consumer prices plunged 1 percent last month, more than forecast and the most since records began in 1947, after being unchanged the prior month, the Labor Department said in Washington. Excluding food and energy, so-called core prices unexpectedly fell for the first time since 1982.

Today's report signals deflation, or a prolonged slide in prices, may become another hazard facing Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke and President-elect Barack Obama. Deflation could worsen what some economists already call the deepest recession in decades, by making debts harder to pay off and countering the impact of Fed interest-rate cuts.

``We are moving into an environment where prices are falling across the board,'' David Resler, chief economist at Nomura Securities International Inc. in New York, said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. ``That is going to continue. Deflation is spreading across the economy.''

Target Corp. is among retailers cutting prices in an effort to lure away cash-strapped holiday shoppers from Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the discount retailer that last week reported a gain in third-quarter profit.

A separate government report today showed housing starts fell 4.5 percent in October to an annual rate of 791,000, the lowest level since the Commerce Department began keeping the data in 1959.

Treasuries Gain

Treasuries, which rallied earlier in the day, remained higher after the reports. Yields on benchmark 10-year notes fell to 3.45 percent at 8:37 a.m. in New York, from 3.52 percent late yesterday.

Consumer prices were forecast to fall 0.8 percent, according to the median forecast of 77 economists in a Bloomberg News survey. Estimates ranged from a decline of 1.2 percent to a gain of 0.4 percent. Costs excluding food and energy were forecast to rise 0.1 percent, the survey showed.

Prices increased 3.7 percent in the 12 months to October, the smallest year-over-year gain since October 2007. They were forecast to climb 4 percent from a year earlier, according to the survey median.

The core rate increased 2.2 percent from October 2007, after a 2.5 percent year-over-year increase the prior month.

Energy expenses dropped 8.6 percent, the most since 1957. Gasoline prices fell 14 percent, the biggest decline in four decades.

Gas Prices

Gasoline has kept falling this month. A gallon of regular gasoline at the pump averaged $2.07 on Nov. 17, down from an October average of $3.08, according to AAA.

``We are seeing the fallout of global recession on inflation,'' said Nigel Gault, chief U.S. economist at IHS Global Insight in Lexington, Massachusetts. ``In commodity prices, it's leading to deflation.''

The consumer-price index is the last of three monthly price gauges from the Labor Department. The CPI is the broadest gauge because it includes goods and services.

A Labor report yesterday showed wholesale prices fell 2.8 percent last month, the most on record. Last week, the government also said the cost of imported goods declined by the most ever.

Food prices, which account for about a fifth of the CPI, increased 0.3 percent after a 0.6 percent increase in September.

The drop in core prices reflected declines in the cost of clothing, automobiles, air fares and hotel rates. New-vehicle prices fell 0.5 percent and clothing costs dropped 1 percent. The price of airfares plunged 4.8 percent, the most since June 1999.

First Since '82

The cost of all services, excluding fuel, was unchanged, the first time it hadn't increased since 1982.

The benefit of the drop in prices can be seen in its effect on incomes. Today's figures also showed wages increased 1.4 percent after adjusting for inflation, following no change in September. They were still down 0.9 percent over the last 12 months. The decline in purchasing power is contributing to the slowdown in consumer spending.

Retail sales fell 2.8 percent last month, the most on record, Commerce Department figures showed last week. Mounting job losses and record foreclosures are causing American consumers, who account for more than two-thirds of the economy, to retrench.

Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, said yesterday it planned to reduce U.S. prices on Thanksgiving food and Christmas merchandise to lure customers during the holidays.

Price `Rollbacks'

``You'll see a lot of rollbacks,'' Eduardo Castro-Wright, Wal-Mart's U.S. stores chief, told analysts at a Morgan Stanley conference in New York. Rollbacks refer to price reductions the retailer scatters throughout grocery, pharmacy and other departments to spur sales.

Target, the second-largest U.S. discounter, said this week it plans to add grocery items and offer ``sharper'' discounts to draw shoppers who are shunning jewelry, clothing and home goods, which account for more than 40 percent of its revenue.

``Right now, the consumer is very hesitant,'' Chief Executive Officer Gregg Steinhafel said during the company's Nov. 17 earnings call. ``They're very stressed.''

Sales of clothing and home goods have been ``sharply lower,'' partly because of banks decreasing consumer credit limits, Chief Financial Officer Douglas Scovanner said during the call.

Leaders in the U.S., Europe and Asia are calling for increased government spending to make up for the loss of consumer purchasing power and lessen the global recession.

Obama and House Democrats are planning to spend as much as half a trillion dollars to stimulate the world's biggest economy and U.K. Prime Minister Gordon Brown pressed other leaders of the Group of 20 nations to follow that effort last weekend.

To contact the report responsible for this story: Bob Willis in Washington at [email protected]

[Nov 27, 2008] FT.com - Markets - Insight - Insight We are in for the mother of all bear market rallies

How long it will exceed is the question: dividends are to be cut...

Nevertheless, the 4 per cent dividend return on the S&P 500 exceeds the yield on the ten and thirty year Treasury bonds for the first time in fifty years.

[Nov 26, 2008] US debt puts strain on dollar By Chris Watling

November 26 2008 | FT.com

The outlook for the dollar is poor.

In the short term an expected equity market rally, quite plausibly the beginning of a cyclical, although not secular, bull market should bring an end to the dollar's recent "repatriation rally". The inverse correlation of the dollar and the S&P 500 is well established and not expected to break any time soon, given the global macroeconomic backdrop. The short term trend should be further reinforced by the broken financial system which impairs the US economy's ability to releverage and mutes the strength of its cyclical recovery. The inability to releverage precludes the US from leading the global economy out of this recession. That also reinforces the dollar's short term unattractiveness.

In the medium term, the US economy faces significant, albeit not insurmountable, structural problems. In particular the interaction of a heavily indebted economy with a broken financial system suggests a decade of poor domestic economic growth as savings are rebuilt and trust in the system restored. The US is a debtor nation and owes the rest of the world more than $2,000bn (up from $750bn as recently as 2000). Indeed both the household and the government sectors have been dis-saving in recent years – a trend that now needs to reverse. All of which suggests an extended period of sub-par domestic economic growth.

There are two distinctive policy choices for an overly indebted economy when confronted by a breakdown in the financial system. Which is chosen can have a significant impact on the long term outlook for the currency.

Choice 1, not surprisingly, is considered politically unpalatable as millions of people lose their jobs and many companies go bust. Choice 2, while seemingly more palatable, carries far greater risk. If it doesn't work it sows the seeds for a decade or more of disappointing growth as savings are rebuilt slowly and the pain of the adjustment prolonged. If it does work it sows the seeds for significant inflation.

Ineffective policy results in a Japanese style "lost decade" accompanied by a weak currency. Effective policy combats debt deflation and offsets the worst of the immediate recession but creates a real risk of eventual significant inflation. For a debtor nation such as the US that creates a real risk of a major currency crisis as investors shun dollar-based assets (because their real value is undermined by inflation and a falling currency). Either way, the dollar goes down.

Currently, US policymakers are halfway through policy choice 2. Interest rates have been cut aggressively and are now almost zero. Politicians are about to embark on their second fiscal stimulus. The banks have been recapitalised. The government has started buying and guaranteeing distressed debt. Finally, the Federal Reserve has begun in earnest to use its balance sheet (in a sterilised manner) to step into the absent shoes of the private sector in the financial system. The Fed's balance sheet has expanded from $900bn just three months ago to $2,200bn today.

A failure of the initial set of policies to reflate the economy is likely to lead to the next, more risky, set of policy choices – those involving unsterilised intervention. Given the breakdown of trust in the financial system, the lack of savings by the US and the continued deleveraging of balance sheets, however, those initial policies, aimed mostly at supporting the economy through creating credit (rather than increasing savings) seem destined to fail.

As the US embarks on the next set of policy choices for curing deflation, as outlined by Ben Bernanke, Fed chairman, in his 2002 speech "Deflation – Making Sure it Doesn't Happen here" – inflationary risks will begin to rise. With that comes the risk of sustained medium term dollar weakness and the risk ultimately of the demise of the dollar as the world's sole reserve currency.

The writer is chief executive of Longview Economics

[Nov 26, 2008] Insight Bonds risk repeating history By Jamie Chisholm

November 25 2008 | FT.com

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Now, as we approach the end of the noughties, we have to hope that assumption is wrong. Because if the bond market does have the better predictive powers, the global economy is in for an extremely miserable time.

Yields on US government bonds are at historic lows. Last Thursday saw panic buying as investors deserted stocks, and, wary of alternative assets such as commodities and corporate debt, piled into the safe haven of Treasury paper.

Market participants described the activity in the Chicago bond futures pits and in electronic trading later that day as unprecedented. Yields on the 30-year bond plunged below 3.5 per cent, their lowest ever level. The return for owning a two-year note dipped below 1 per cent.

The immediate cause of this frenzy was US data that showed the rate of inflation slowing sharply and high levels of unemployment. Yields dropped so far that they appeared to be pricing in an economic downturn akin to the 1930s depression, say some analysts.

So what should investors do next?

The obvious temptation is to think that with such a dire scenario already baked into government bonds and equities the darkest hour is upon us. Now might be the time to favour stocks over bonds.

Unfortunately, the experience of Japan suggests this is not necessarily a good idea. The hangover from that nation's asset bubble that popped in the early 1990s is still being felt, with the Nikkei 225 Average remaining 79 per cent below its peak.

But arguably the more remarkable trend was witnessed in the Japanese government bond market. As deflation took a grip and the Bank of Japan held interest rates at zero for much of this decade, the yield on the Japanese 10-year government bond dipped at one stage in 2003 to almost 0.4 per cent. The yield has averaged about 1.49 per cent over the past 10 years.

What can stop such a trend developing in the US bond market, where the 10-year bond is currently yielding 3.2 per cent?

Well, first, we must hope America does not experience anything similar to Japan's "Lost Decade" of economic torpor. US consumers' greater propensity to spend than their Japanese counterparts may help in that regard.

Second, bond bears will point to the imminent tsunami of supply.

Governments in many western states need to fund their myriad bailouts and fiscal stimulus packages. More debt appears to be the short term answer. And why not? Today the US Treasury can borrow for 30 years at 3.6 per cent.

However, as my colleagues in Lex have pointed out, concerns about increased supply can be subsumed by the recognition that governments often only need to sell more bonds to plug their finances when times are tough.

And there is another factor that may continue to provide a bid for bonds. The latest US Tics data shows that net purchases of long-term US securities climbed to $66.2bn in September compared to $21bn and $18.4bn in August and July respectively. So foreign demand remains strong.

But surely after such a sharp decline, US Treasury yields will at least pause for breath? As Barton Biggs noted in this column on Monday, the yield on the S&P 500 has raised above the 10-year bond, an oft-quoted sign that equities are undervalued relative to bonds.

But it is noticeable that as stocks have rallied sharply over the past few days, bond yields have remained close to their lows – aided by news of support for the US mortgage-backed securities market.

The bond market has spoken. Be afraid.

[Nov 15, 2008] Abandon all hope once you enter deflation By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

13 Nov 2008 | Telegraph

Deflation is sometimes likened to Dante's Inferno. "Abandon all hope" once you step into that Hellfire.

We are not there yet but Mervyn King, the Governor of the Bank of England, says it is now "very likely" that the UK retail price index will turn negative next year. This is a drastic reversal of the oil and food spike that played such havoc with monetary policy over the summer. "The world changed in September," said the Governor.

The Bank's fan charts point to zero inflation at current interest rates of 3pc, but the startling new feature is that price falls could gather pace. This is a clear signal that the Monetary Policy Committee will cut rates again in December – perhaps by a full point to the historic low of 2pc, last seen in the Great Depression.

Mr King let slip yesterday that there is "obviously" a risk of deflation, although he remains sure it can be averted by a pre-emptive monetary blitz. Let us hope he is right.

The curse of deflation is that it increases the burden of debts. Incomes fall: debts stay the same. This way lies suffocation. It was bad enough in the early 1930s when US farmers faced a Sisyphean Task trying to meet mortgage payments on their land as crop prices kept sliding. They suffered mass foreclosure and fled West, as recounted in John Steinbeck's Grapes of Wrath.

We forget, however, that overall borrowing was modest in the 1930s. The great credit bubble of the last 20 years has pushed debt levels in Britain, the US and other Western societies to unprecedented highs. UK household debt reached a record 165pc of personal income last year. This is almost 50pc higher than the burden at the onset of the recession in the early 1990s. Our sensitivity to debt deflation is therefore greater.

"It is going to be absolute murder in Britain if inflation turns negative," said Professor Peter Spencer from York University. "The big difference with past episodes is that we are now much more heavily indebted. Few people owned their own houses in 1930s. Debts were miniscule."

Deflation has other insidious traits. It causes shoppers to hold back. They wait for lower prices. Once this psychology gains a grip, it can gradually set off a self-feeding spiral that is hard to stop.

It also redistributes wealth – the wrong way. Savings appreciate, which is nice for the "rentiers" with capital. The effect is a large transfer of income from working people with mortgages to bondholders. (These may be pension funds, of course).

The modern warning to us all is the "Lost Decade" in Japan, a loose term for the on-again, off-again slump that ultimately led to zero interest rates and – when that failed – to the printing of money. After 18 years, the Nikkei stock index is now trading at 8,700 – down from a peak of nearly 40,000. House prices have fallen by half. Yet after all the stimulus, the country is once again tipping back into deflation.

Governor King said Britain was likely to avoid this fate. "We've taken action much earlier than was the case in Japan," he said.

Not everybody agrees, even after the shock and awe cut of 1.5 percentage points by the MPC. Albert Edwards, global strategist at Société Générale, has long warned that central banks in the Anglo-Saxon countries have stored up trouble by stoking credit booms, and may find it harder than they think to engineer a soft-landing.

"This could easily go the way of Japan. It is true that Bank of England has moved faster, but Japan was a local bubble. This time it is the 'great unwind' on a global scale with leverage spaghetti everywhere," he said.

"The monetary authorities don't have foggiest idea themselves whether this is going to work. They're crossing their fingers and hoping," he said.

Nor is it clear whether rate cuts are gaining much traction. The average rate of tracker mortgages has risen 72 basis points since last month, and credit card rates have been rocketing. The Bank's transmission mechanism is not working properly. This a variant of the 1930s struggle when the central banks found themselves "pushing on a string", in the words of John Maynard Keynes. He called for public works to lift the economy out of its liquidity trap. This is more or less what the US, Japan, China, and parts of Europe are now doing – with more in store after the G20 this weekend. Britain has pitifully limited scope on this front. We had a budget deficit of 3pc of GDP at the top of the cycle – when we should have been in surplus – and we are heading for over 8pc. This is already nearing the danger level. If the Government now lets rip on fiscal policy, we could face a 'gilts strike' as foreign investors retreat from UK debt.

The Bank of England has not run out of ammo yet. It can cut rates to zero if necessary and then escalate to direct infusions of money by purchasing bonds – or indeed by buying a vast range of securities, assets and even houses if necessary. Ultimately it can print money to cover the budget deficit.

As the late Milton Friedman put it, governments can drop bundles of banknotes from helicopters. If they really want to defeat to deflation, they can. Mr Friedman may have overlooked the fact that gunmen can shoot down the helicopter – the Bank of France in October 1931, when it ditched the dollar; perhaps Asian bond investors today? – but that is to quibble.

Professor Spencer says the Bank of England has learned the hard lessons. Without the constraints of the ERM, Gold Standard, or any other fixed exchange system, it retains great freedom of action.

"They are very aware of the deflation risk. They are cutting rates very fast, and if necessary they too will turn to helicopters. But in the end they will keep the wolf from the door," he said.

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[Nov 15, 2008] The Economist on deflation

Like many others in recent months, another anonymous economist at The Economist makes the same mistake of confusing 1990s Japan-style deflation with 1930s U.S.-style deflation and, in the process, adds to the growing fear that, somehow, a negative CPI implies that the value of paper money is increasing, causing debtors to hasten repayment of their loans resulting in a dreaded "debt deflation".

Really?

In a world full of pure fiat money, that central banks and governments can borrow and print into existence at will and with virtually no limit, people are really going to think that their money is gaining in purchasing power and change their behavior?

According to this report, apparently so:

A commodity-led fall in inflation ought to be good news for rich economies. It boosts consumers' real incomes and fattens firms' profit margins. Yet there is something pernicious about inflation falling too far, too fast. Because falling prices make debt more expensive, indebted households would be more anxious to pay off loans, even as other consumers were benefiting from a boost to their purchasing power. If deflation took hold, the gap in demand left by those fleeing debt would not be filled by cash-rich consumers, who tend to be less free-spending.
A deadly mix of falling prices and high leverage could foment a "debt-deflation" of the type first described by Irving Fisher, an American economist, in 1933. In this schema, debt-laden firms and consumers rush to repay loans as credit dries up. That hurts demand and leads to price cuts. The deflation in turn increases the real cost of debt. It also means that real interest rates can't be negative, and so are undesirably high. That spurs yet more repayment so that, in Fisher's words, the "liquidation defeats itself."
Perhaps a reference more recent than 1933 would have bolstered their case.

Posted by Tim at 8:46 AM

5 comments:

Anonymous said...
I understand your argument that more money will come into existance. I have been following both the inflation and deflation argument closely.

The only part I haven't seen you clarify (or itulip, or Schiff etc) is how does this money get into the hands of the common folk?

I, as an individual, don't value a $20 bill based on how many there are in the world, but only based upon how easy it is to get my hands on one..., or how many are in the hands of the common person.

If one guy has 20 trillion dollars sitting in a garage somewhere, I don't see how this affects value I place on money.

Without huge gains in income, how does the average joe feel that his 20 bucks is worth less (i.e. easier to come by).

Just like home prices drop to what the median income is....regardless of how rich the richest of us are.....prices for products like cars, food, gas, etc don't rise when a few people have lots of cash, but when lots of cash are in lots of hands.

I just don't see the "helcopter" that will drop all this cash in the hands of many, truly sparking inflation.

Average Joe.

ndd said...
You can't get a deflationary spiral without wage deflation as well. If wages stay the same or grow, consumption will quickly pick up. That is what happened during the brief post WW2 deflations such as in 1954. Those deflations also never went beyond (-1.5%) on a YoY or less basis.
In the Great Depression, wages also were cut -- dramatically in many instances. With reduced wages, the ability to pay off debts imploded.
Now, a possibility that might happen now (and might have been happening for the past decade or more!), is that layoffs increase dramatically, and the new jobs pay less than the old ones. Then you could get a deflationary spiral of sorts, it seems to me.

To defeat that spiral, you would need to get cash to the consumer/debtors -- not to the bank/lenders.

Tim said...
"I just don't see the "helcopter" that will drop all this cash in the hands of many, truly sparking inflation."

Even though only about 15-20 percent of the last $150B(?) stimulus was spent, that was still a big chunk of money and shows up clearly in the Q2 GDP data.

But, that was just the warm-up - soon there will be more rebate money to spend and lots of "make-work" jobs that will produce real income for many people.

Personally, I think the Treasury Department should just issue a debit card to each and every U.S. citizen and then add money to each account as they see fit to stimulate the economy (no cash withdrawals allowed).

little larry sellers said...
I fail to see how all this money couldn't get into the hands of common folk. I mean, if the money keeps increasing in value and asset prices keep declining, wouldn't the hoarders eventually start buying real estate, businesses, toys and gadgets, etc at fire sale prices? It's not like the money will be stuck in somebody's account in perpetuity.

Personally I think the whole deflation argument represents certain elements of the media grasping at straws to justify creating unprecedented amounts of money out of thin air.

It's like Tim said -- it makes no sense for us to print seemingly limitless amounts of currency at will, only to have it increase in value. If that is the case, we'll all soon be rich without having to do anything! Let the REAL fairy tale economy begin!

Anonymous said...
Deflation wears many hats….

Will China use its dollar reserves to buy US/NAFTA imports, instead of US treasury debt instruments?

Where else are they going to spend US currency?

The dollar can decline on an international exchange basis, yet increase in value domestically.
Manufactures have excess/idle productive capacity.

Increased exports may not necessarily mean fewer goods available domestically.

Also, stagnating and negative income growth combined with less credit available individually
will ration the consumption of goods and services..

Deflation (as seen in Japan) resulted in the manufacturer's inability to increase prices.

But NOT necessarily, a decline in product prices. How is that possible??

Mass consumption and mass marketing changed the game.

The competition moved from price competition to innovation. This means improving reliability and increasing the number features a product offers. (I.E. A Camera built into your cell phone.)
I predict - in the (near) future critics of government use of Hedonic pricing will have many opportunities to be disappointed.

Credit Crisis Fallout: Investors Leery of Buying Government Debt As Calendar Grows

One of the underlying assumptions of the Fed's and many other central banks' response to the credit crisis is that it can be halted, and hopefully remedied, by having the government backstop the troubled financial sector. One template is not to repeat the supposed mistakes of the Great Depression and Japan's post bubble era, where conventional wisdom has it downturn morphed into disasters as a result of the failure of central banks to break glass and supply liquidity aggressively enough. A second model is Sweden. There, the government intervened aggressively to combat a large scale banking crisis by nationalizing failing banks (they had a methodology for doing triage, to determine who could be saved and who needed to be liquidated or merged), spun the bad assets off into a liquidation vehicle, recapitalized what remained, and sold them off when the economy recovered.

However, these paradigms are being applied selectively, with the politically convenient bits being implemented and the harder remedies ignored. The Fed moved quickly to cut rates and then create special vehicles to help provide liquidity to markets that appeared stuck. But this response came out of both Bernanke's study of (one might say fixation with) the Depression. plus the "if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail" syndrome. Central banks are in the liquidity business, so they tend to fall back on the tools they have at hand, rather than going to the more difficult process of building political support for other types of solutions.

For instance, a number of observers, ranging from Depression expert Anna Schwarts and the Japanese have taken issue with the heavy reliance on liquidity injections. Schwartz has pointed out, as many others have, that the current financial meltdown is not a liquidity crisis but a solvency crisis. Both Schwartz and the Japanese recommended approaches that put much greater priority on purging bad assets (Schwartz recommended letting insolvent firms fail, while the Japanese urged speedy recapitalizations).

And even the Swedish approach, which is now being given lip service, is largely ignored. One of its key elements was that the banking system had grown disproportionately, unsustainably large, and needed to be shrunk. The US, by contrast, is not only trying to prop up the financial system in place, but also wants it to make more loans to keep the economy going. In other words, they want to make the underlying problem of overleverage worse.

Since the US looks borrowings relative to GDP are higher than Sweden's were at the time of its crisis, the need to figure out how to reduce indebtedness is crucial. Some analysts have pegged US debt to GDP at 350%; reader Bjornar kindly did some digging, and based on this and this source concluded Swedish debt to GDP in 1990 was roughly 170%. While both estimates are admittedly quick and dirty, the obvious shortcomings in the US estimate suggest it is, if anything, understated.

However, reducing indebtedness means a lower GDP, when the idea of letting growth suffer is anathema. Yet Sweden, which is widely held as a model, did in fact have a very nasty two year recession, but had a strong rebound afterwards. Most analysts believe this was the least costly approach, in terms of long-term consequences. Yet the US seems determined to minimize immediate pain, not matter how great damage to long-term economic health.

Moreover, the US is starting to get warning signs that it may encounter resistance from our friendly foreign funding soruces when we ask them to pick up the tab for our debt party. Willem Buiter, who was a front-row spectator in the Iceland meltdown (he and Anne Siebert were bought in to advise the authorities late in the game, and they evidently didn't heed Buiter's and Sieber's advice) warns that having the government rescue the banking sector does not reduce risk but merely transfers it, and investors are wising up:

Under current circumstances, if the government injects capital into a bank to compensate for past and anticipated future losses, it may not achieve a risk-adjusted expected rate of return on this investment equal to its borrowing cost. The difference will have to be recouped through higher future primary surpluses, that is, higher future government budget surpluses excluding interest payments. If there is doubt in the markets about the ability or willingness of current and/or future governments to raise future taxes or cut future spending to generate the required increase in future primary surpluses, the default risk premium on the public debt will rise. We are seeing such increased default risk premia even for the most credit-worthy sovereigns, including the German government, the US government and the UK government. On Friday October 10, 2008, the spreads on 5 year sovereign CDS were 0.456% for the UK, 0.33% for the USA ad 0.265% for Germany, well above their post-war historical averages. On October 28, 2008, Bloomberg wrote:
Credit-default swaps on [U.S.] Treasuries have risen nearly 40 percent since TARP was signed into law Oct. 3, and are now about the same as Mexican and Thai government debt before the credit markets began to seize up in June 2007.

By bailing out the banks, and other bits of the financial system, the authorities reduce bank default risk but by increasing sovereign default risk. As long as there is sufficient fiscal spare capacity (the technical, economic and political prerequisites are met for raising future taxes and/or cutting future public spending by a sufficient amount to service the additional public debt and maintain long-run government solvency).
One worry about government solvency being compromised by the need to rescue an overly large banking sector.Buiter, unlike Paul Krugman and other prominent US economists, warns that there are indeed limits to how many commitments a a government can take on. Markets can and will exercise discipline (Buiter argues mainly from the UK perspective, but his logic applies to any government):
The key question is, can the government meet all these fiscal commitments, whether firm or flaccid, unconditional or contingent and explicit or implicit ? Does it have the resources, now and in the future, to issue the additional debt required to meet the growing volume of up-front obligations it has taken on?

To be solvent, the face value of the government's net financial obligations has to be no larger than the present discounted value of current and future primary government surpluses (government surpluses excluding net interest and other investment income)....

In addition to the debt that has been and will be issued to finance asset purchases by the government, there are the future debt issuance associated with the large cyclical and structural government deficits that will be a feature of the coming recession. If GDP falls peak-to-trough by, say 3.5 percent and recovers only slowly, we could have a seven percent of GDP or higher government deficit for 2009 and 2010. Together with the explicit or implicit fiscal commitments made to safeguard the British banking system, the numbers are likely to spook the markets.
With the true net public debt to GDP ratio probably already well above 100 percent of GDP and rising, and with massive public sector deficits, partly cyclical and partly structural, about to materialise, the markets will question the fiscal-financial sustainability of the government's programme with increasing vehemence. The CDS spreads on UK public debt will start rising. The notion that, except for currency, there may not be a safe sterling-denominated asset may come as a shock. But the same is true in the US. In 2009, the US government will have to sell (gross) at least $ 2 trillion worth of government debt (the sum of the Federal deficit plus asset purchases plus refinancing of maturing debt). The largest such figure ever in the past was $550 billion. In the US too, the markets will have to learn to do without a US dollar financial instrument that is free of default risk.


Buiter's comments on the US raise a second issue: even if investors are not worried about the risk of a sovereign default, there is going to be so much government debt for sale that yields will rise, merely based on supply and demand. We are seeing signs of that now. Consider this warning sign from Germany, the unheard of specter of the failure of a government bond auction of a highly credit-worthy state, via the Financial Times (hat tip readers Chris and Don):
For any government looking to raise money in the capital markets in the next few months, there was an ominous development in Germany this week.

A German 10-year bond auction failed – something more or less unheard of until this year – as cash-strapped banks and investors snubbed the government offering.

It is a clear sign of straitened times when a benchmark bond in one of the most liquid markets in the world cannot attract enough bids to reach its target amount.

Crucially, it raises serious doubts about whether governments can raise the vast amounts of debt needed to fund fiscal stimulus packages and bank recapitalisations in the current tough market conditions.

Any sign of waning demand may force up bond yields – putting further pressure on public finances when they are already under strain.

Nowhere is the issue more pressing than in the US.

Tony Crescenzi, strategist at Miller Tabak, says: "In a world with finite capital and where sovereign nations everywhere are in need of capital to finance their financial and economic stabilisation efforts, the substantial increase in Treasury supply could become manifested in higher long-term interest rates."

Rick Klingman, managing director at BNP Paribas, adds: "There is no doubt that supply will matter at some point as the financing needs are staggering [in the US]. At the moment, supply is not a large factor with stocks in freefall"....

US Treasury bond supply is expected to hit record levels, in a range from $1,400bn to $1,750bn in the 2009 financial year, starting in October. In Europe, bond supply is forecast to rise to more €1,000bn ($1,247bn) next year – also a record high, according to Barclays Capital.

The extraordinary thing is that, in spite of this huge supply, most analysts expect bond yields will fall. This is because many analysts are now anticipating a deep and protracted global recession, and talk of deflation is even stalking bond markets.

Yields have fallen particularly sharply at the shorter-end of the bond curve, which is most sensitive to interest rate movements, because of the accelerating slowdown in the world's economies.

Analysts say the economic backdrop is the key determinant of where yields will trade. At the moment equities are so unappealing to investors that bond markets appear more attractive, offsetting supply concerns.

Some government bond yields are also historically low, around levels last seen in 2005, and much lower than in June when inflation concerns dominated trade. For example, German 10-year Bund yields are trading at 3.63 per cent, compared with 4.68 per cent in June.

Riccardo Barbieri, a strategist at Bank of America, says: "In the unlikely event that yields should rise, which I would not expect, they are coming from a fairly low level."

Germany – in spite of its fourth 10-year Bund failure this year – and the US are likely to be more successful in attracting investors and depressing yields, should the difficult conditions persist, than other countries as they have the most liquid markets and are seen as safe havens...

Another problem for the governments is the competition from banks and financial institutions, which have sovereign guarantees yet offer much higher yields.

For example, this week the UK's Nationwide priced a three-year deal at close to 100 basis points over gilts.

"The simplistic question is, why buy government paper when you can buy government-backed paper such as this for a much greater return?," says Sean Shepley, fixed income strategist at Credit Suisse.

With an expected €1,600bn of bank guaranteed issuance in Europe alone next year, this could have a significant impact on investor appetite for government bonds.

Mr Chapman says: "In spite of the prospect of this huge issuance, yields are not being forced higher. This shows just how gloomy people are about the economic outlook."


Personally, I think investors are so shell-shocked by the crisis that they are only thinking about what to do this quarter, and not about the longer term. Just as during the waning days of the bubble, Citi's Chuck Prince talked of dancing as long as the music was playing, and assuming he and Citi could exit risky positions when the time came, so to many investors may recognize the risk of a rise in government bond yields, but similarly assume they can sell if that comes to pass without taking too much of a loss.

In another, more widely reported sign of stress, the US 30 bond auction this week saw a big drop in demand from central banks, a crucial group of buyers. From Bloomberg:

Treasuries fell, led by 30-year bonds, after investors shunned the government's $10 billion sale of the securities amid concern that U.S. debt sales will grow....

The bond auction followed yesterday's sale of $20 billion in 10-year notes. The $30 billion total of the two auctions is the biggest amount of the securities sold in a week since at least 1990...

``In the current market environment there are still too many unknowns,'' said William Larkin, a portfolio manager at Cabot Money Management in Salem, Massachusetts, which manages about $500 million in assets. ``People are looking for the safety of the shorter-term securities.''

Today's bond auction forecast to draw a yield of 4.224 percent, according to the average estimate of seven bond-trading firms surveyed by Bloomberg News. The bid-to-cover ratio, which gauges demand by comparing the number of bids to the amount of securities sold, was 2.07, below the average of 2.19 times in the nine auctions since the bond was revived in 2006.

Indirect bidders, a class of investors that includes foreign central banks, bought 18 percent of the securities offered, down from 43 percent at the last sale.


The skittish may due in part to the G20 meeting this weekend, which could be a negative for the dollar if China's pet theme, the need to move away from the dollar as reserve currency, gets a hearing. The dollar and Treasuries tend to move together. But this is not the first weak Treasury auction we've seen, and if they become more than isolated events, it bodes ill for the strategy many central banks are taking.

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cent21 said...
Sort of like trying to stop a bullet speeding towards you by rapidly inflating a balloon?

Let's suppose, first, that we would suffer a deflation and many bond defaults if we don't do anything at all. It would be led by a deflation of bubble assets (has already been?) but would come to include, well, what?

So govt would like to prevent that, and might as well inflate at least to the extent that defaults would impact govt's balance sheet. But I tend to agree - it's likely simply to drive up interest rates - and hence induce more solvency defaults when combined with mega excess capacity.

We do have a demand issue, certainly, much more stuff could be produced and consumed this year and probably next - who knows, things are changing so fast. But perhaps classic govt stimulus would do at least as well as buying up troubled assets. They went for bank capitaization seeking to use leverage and avoid the mess of figuring out how to buy garbage, but with how many god-trillions of derrivatives at even higher leverage all over the world, do govts even have the capability of having the biggest sticks?

Still, I think, at worst, if the finance sector is going to use even 1% of the bailout funds to pay for bonuses this Christmas, that program ought to be short circuited. They say bonus funds are necessary to keep top people, but that's zero sum for the industry as a whole, except to the extent that there are too many top people in finance, and not enough in the rest of the economy. So if the sector can't pay its bonuses out of profits, lets at least do a democratic stimulus plan that has a broader aim. A bit for the middle class. A bit of bridge building. A bit of block grants to the states.

Even at 10% of the amount they've borrowed this year that would be a pretty big stimulus, I think. And probably with no more risk. Gnite.

November 15, 2008 1:05 AM

hbl said...
Excellent and important post...

I have not seen an analysis of Japan's experience with respect to fears of sovereign default. If memory serves, their government debt has tripled from 60% of GDP to 180% of GDP in the almost two decades since the start of their crisis. Yet it would appear that cost to insure Japanese government debt is only around 36bp. Does this offer hope, or are there crucial differences for the US/etc? (I know there are future US government obligations already, for example, but don't know their magnitude).

November 15, 2008 1:17 AM

Francois said...
The lack of a cogent and "bite the bullet" response from our political authorities could be our undoing from a nasty recession to a severe deflationary depression. Truth be told, it couldn't have happened at a worst moment, ie. presidential election and transition to a new administration.

Furthermore, just listening to the Congressional testimonies thus far is enough to make one consider suicide or seek asylum elsewhere. Politicians just can't help themselves in failing to educate themselves properly on economic matters, and avoiding the tough measures needed. The Swedish model appears to be unthinkable here,. It is as if they were trying to save the banks, instead of the banking system.

I'm at the point that I harbor no hope of a quick and DECISIVE solution a la Swede. It'll be uglier before it gets better...assuming it does get better someday.

November 15, 2008 1:32 AM

hbl said...
Also, with respect to the sustainability of low treasury yields, I agree that the risks of such a large increase in supply could be serious, however I wonder if some partially mitigating factors are often overlooked by some commentators (not suggesting Yves is one of them):

1. Most of the new supply of treasuries resulting from the Fed's actions (via Treasury Supplemental Financing Program) are simply replacing other toxic assets that are being absorbed by the Fed. So the composition of assets in the system is being changed but not the total quantity, so in this respect specifically, asset supply on aggregate should not be impacted.

2. On the other hand, two big factors WILL add to treasury supply (and hence aggregate assets in the system looking for funding): (a) new funding needed to cover losses on toxic assets acquired by the fed as they deteriorate, (b) fiscal stimulus spending by Congress. However, let's say the Fed's losses are $2 trillion and fiscal stimulus is $2 trillion. Then in an ongoing flight to safety and non-negative returns, $4 trillion in new bonds and bills/notes looking for funding is not too huge relative to other asset markets. (Pre-crisis $20 trillion US stock market, $20 trillion US bond market, $6 trillion existing treasury float, other asset markets.)

3. The fed is widely expected to begin monetizing assets at the longer end of the yield curve -- in effect both increasing demand and reducing supply for treasuries relative to no monetization. This does not have to be inflationary if broad money supply still contracts faster than "printing".

4. CPI inflation has been high, but this measure is backward looking, is falling, and according to Mish, is currently overstated

November 15, 2008 1:33 AM

Tom Bombadil said...
Why does FT say that short bonds are most sensitive to interest rate moves? I always thought the sensitivity was proportional to the bond duration. Can somebody straighten me out?

November 15, 2008 1:37 AM

Anonymous said...
This is what happens when you apply a gaming math model to the stock/security's market for a profit.

Any one for a Quantum model?

Skippy

November 15, 2008 2:01 AM

doc holiday said...
Gads, that post is like a chapter of War & Peace!

Re: "In other words, they want to make the underlying problem of overleverage worse.
"

Yah, My take on this, is that there is simply too much excess, i.e, too many homes, too many derivatives connected to bad collateral, too much fraud, just too much excess crap. Every county, city and nation supported the notion and fraudulent nature of explosive growth, which was related to a pyramid scheme that had zero relationship to realistic supply and demand. Then, banks and lenders packaged financial instruments that were literally based on thin air to support fraud -- so what is the current solution being offered -- -- MORE THIN AIR, More shit loans, more credit for more homes, more funding for more shit derivatives, more of the same fuel that started the fire. How about some easy credit for people that screw up, maybe a tsunami of credit for corporations that can't keep their noses out of the cocaine machine of synthetic addiction, blah, blah, blah.... (hair pulling and screaming).

These TARP engineers are retarded dumbasses, and if I need to, I can come back and friggn pound that out in CAPS -- but who cares???

November 15, 2008 2:05 AM

Don said...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/23/business/worldbusiness/23krona.html?em

"Sweden spent 4 percent of its gross domestic product, or 65 billion kronor, the equivalent of $11.7 billion at the time, or $18.3 billion in today's dollars, to rescue ailing banks. That is slightly less, proportionate to the national economy, than the $700 billion, or roughly 5 percent of gross domestic product, that the Bush administration estimates its own move will cost in the United States.

But the final cost to Sweden ended up being less than 2 percent of its G.D.P. Some officials say they believe it was closer to zero, depending on how certain rates of return are calculated"

I don't know if this helps. This post depresses me. I fear Buiter is right, but, as I've argued on his blog, we're in a political bind now which might not let us pull back. I don't think it will, so it's just a matter of triage. Anyway, here's what I believed as of early last month. I feel that the predictions have gone pretty well. If this continues, I feel that we will have a huge stimulus plan and more bailouts, so, practically, all we can do is try and help people choose the least awful plan. Too bad.

Thursday, October 2, 2008
How I've Approached The Plans Being Put Forward

I am a libertarian Democrat. As such, I'm interested in working within a party which can actually change our government over time. Perhaps I am also simply more comfortable culturally in the Democratic Party Coalition.

In any case, I accept that there is a difference between politics and political theory. Politics is the art of the possible. Political Theory is the view of the government that you would ideally like to see.

In the current crisis, I acknowledged two plans as having some merit, and fulfilling my requirement that any plan be clear and understandable:

1) A totally free market plan.

2) A version of the Swedish Plan.

In my mind, there are three points that are informing my views on which plan to favor:

A) There will be a government intervention of some sort, undoubtedly large.

B) Because crises such as these bring about government intervention.

C) If there is government intervention, it should be for as broad a purpose as possible and be as thrifty with the taxpayers money as possible.

Based on these assumptions, I favor a version of the Swedish Plan.

It's not that I don't see other plans as possibly working, but hybrid/compromise plans are generally:

1) Easier to manipulate by special interests.

2) Harder to determine what worked and what didn't.

3) Riskier financially.

That's how I've approached this crisis.

Don the libertarian Democrat

November 15, 2008 2:08 AM

Anonymous said...
so, can I conclude this is what will happen?

1. Real economy will continue to slide at least another 3-6 months. Therefore nobody is making money, let alone has money to spare.

2. US has mismanaged the bail out money. And in the near future will need to issue MASSIVE amount of (government) bond. (Who will buy them? PBOC? Saudi?) The US public certainly doesn't have the money.

3. So it comes down to some sort of currency debasing.

4. The world suddenly notice and start dumping dollar.

5. default.

November 15, 2008 3:38 AM

mundanomaniac said...
a piece, that was written by a jewish german philosopher, walter benjamin (+1940)seems to me fitting in this picture. I tried my best in translating it:

In capitalism one has to realize a religion, e.g. capitalism serves essentially to satisfy the same kind of sorrows, misery, unrest, which formerly the so called religions provided with an answer … […]

We cannot pull the net, we are standing in, but later on there will be a view of it.

But there are three features, that are even now about to be realized concerning this religious structure of capitalism.

  • For the first capitalism is a plain cult religion, maybe the most radical which has ever been. Everything in it has meaning only immediately referring to cult; it knows no special dogmatics, no theology. The utilitarianism ("everything for the happiness of the most") gains its religious color under this point of view.
  • With this gaining of concreteness there is connection to a second feature of capitalism: the permanent duration of the cult […] there is no weekday, no day, that wouldn't be a holiday in the dreadful meaning of unfolding of all sacred pomp, the utterly strain of the worshipper.

  • This cult is, for the third, running into debt. Capitalism is probably the first case of a non-expiative but indebtive cult. In here this religious system is standing in the collapse of an immense movement.

An immense sense of guilt, which has no notion how to deexpiate, grasps for cult, not to expiate in it, but to let it become universal, to hammer it into consciousness and finally and above all to include God himself into this debt to at last have him being interested in the expiation of the debt.

[…]

It is in the essence of this religious movement, which is capitalism, to endure until the end, until the finally entire indebtedness of God, the reached world condition of desperation, which is just still hoped for.

The historical outrageous of capitalism is lying in this, that religion is no longer the reformation of being but its smashing. The extension of desperation into a religious world condition out of which the salvation is to expect. Gods transcendence has fallen. But he is not dead; he is embedded in human fate.

This passage of the human planet through the house of desperation in the perfect isolation of its orbit is the ethos that is determining Nietzsche. This human being is the "Übermensch" (Superman), the very first beginning to meet capitalistic religion by realization.

The fourth feature is, that its God has to be concealed, may not be articulated until reaching the zenith of his indebtedness. The cult is celebrated in front of an unmatured deity. Every imagination, every concept on her hurts the secret of her maturity [ …]

The concept of the "Übermensch" transfers the apocalyptic "jump" not into turning back, expiation, purification, penance, but into the apparent constantly, but in the last space of time bursting intermittent increase. […] The Übermensch is that historical human that has without turning back arrived by growing through heaven.

This blasting of heaven by increased humanity, which is and remains religious […] indebtedness …

Capitalism is a religion of naked cult, without dogma. Capitalism has parasitically emerged […] on Christianity in the occident in such a way, that finally its history in essence is the history of its parasite, the capitalism.

(Walter Benjamin, Ges. Schriften, VI, S. 100, Frankfurt/M., 1991)

more for those of you who read german
http://mundanestagebuch.blogspot.com/2008/10/knigspunkt-und-menschenkreis.html

November 15, 2008 6:36 AM

Richard Kline said...
One of your best posts, Yves, as the entire issue of sovereign systemic risk is put in current context, with some historical comparables.

"Some analysts have pegged US debt to GDP at 350% . . . ." This is the Nidhogg gnawing at the root. Debt never sleeps, it compounds in the dark. We already have a bunch of debt of all types out there relative to our ability as a country to _keep current on it_ to say nothing of paying it down into tolerable levels. Our ability to pay is going to be impaired for years. The solution? Double our outstanding debt. At least. Buiter does a fine summary, and having watched a country go down he is far more current on this than Ben and Hank.

It is anything but certain that the US Guvmint will even be able to _sell_ its impending $2T. Failure to sell will force risk reappraisals which will have the direst of consequences given the volume of our outstanding debt. Not that I necessarily agree with hbl at 1:33 above, but he/she does at least propose a credible scenario that the debt could get sold. ---But what of it? It is very hard to conceive of a scenario where yields DO NOT RISE in floating that kind of debt over the next two years. Which will have an extremely negative effect on outstanding, lower yielding government and corporate debt.

We are boxing ourselves into a sovereign bond bubble; there is no other way to read this scenario. Perhaps we raise taxes massively, boom exports with a devaluation of the dollar, and cut zombie financials off at the window in the interests of the parts of the banking system we can salvage. It is conceivable that by such means we might, with the cooperation not to say connivance, of other sovereign financial actors, keep out of default. If we do not get exports and taxes well up, and quit wasting the money _in advance_ pushing money into insolvent apex financials, we are croaked, because we are going to issue that debt.

. . . And despite this, the important decision makers in DC just do not act as if we are in a crisis of magnitude, let alone THIS crisis of THIS magnitude. The Beltway suits act as our crisis involves banks of their friends going bust and homes of a certain percentage of their local electorates going into foreclosure. And those are crises of their kinds, but not THIS crisis. But in trying to fix those crises, they will back into THIS crisis without ever believing that they are so at risk. Crisis typically go from problems to explosions because folks capable of influencing the situation focus on small familiar things at their feet rather than large unfamiliar things coming at their heads. Thus it is that the beltway suits seem so far behind the curve on this problem set that they really could slam their own redshifting asses propping up assests into their own blueshifting faces pushing out debt. With the citizenry briefly wedged between the impact surfaces. This is what worries me.

In 1780 France was a rich and powerful nation with an unstable fiscal and financial system, busily issuing ever more debt. In 1800, France was a rich and powerful nation with a stable fiscal and financial system---and at war with the rest of the world. In 1790, France was _not_ rich, _not_ powerful, and _very much not_ stable. This is a situation which I doubt that Ben Bernanke has fully analyzed, in no small part because it would appear that he limits his analysis to examining money rather than examining contexts. This is what worries me.

November 15, 2008 6:47 AM

River said...
Yves...great post.

Perhaps another aspect of treasury debt issuance is the perceived use of the capital gained. If foreign purchasers suspect that the US Gov is channeling capital received from treasury sales into unproductive uses which will impede recovery of the economy then treasury yields will indeed increase. More risk is perceived.

Paulson has placed the AAA credit rating of the US at risk for the benefit of investment banking...A type of banking that is largely no longer needed with the rapid decline of the securitization model. Golden parachutes continue to be provided for those that least deserve them. Banks that should have been left to fail have been rescued (for now).

Once again we see that the psychology of the treasury buyers will enter into the success of the sales. In another psychological environment, one more positive, the treasury sales might be accomplished with ease. In the current environment and the next couple of years, I doubt it. It is always easier to borrow money when one doesn't need it.

November 15, 2008 7:49 AM

Anonymous said...
Sovereign debt is not such a bad thing when other countries are not in recession. When you have a global recession investors get to pick a choose the sovereign debt they like as all countries try to issue debt.

There is of course an alternative and that is to print the money, which the US has sort of started down the road with as quantative easing takes place.

Greece's, Austria's, and Ireland's devts are ones to watch because they may cause mayhem in the euro zone.

As for US debt then there would appear to be a bubble, but it could just deflate gently.

Triggers for a rush away from US debt could be sovereign debt default by generally reliable countrues in Europe, but equally very bad economic news could.

Watch GM closely this week as insurers have withdrawn insurance for suppliers of goods to them. All ready there are rumours of some larger gloabal suppliers refusing to supply GM.

November 15, 2008 8:51 AM

Matt Dubuque said...
Yves, this was a worth reading.

I remain disappointed however that in your repeated discussions of the Swedish model I have never seen you mention what the Executive Director of that program has stated was the KEY element. You are not alone in this omission.

He stated that once the Swedish government acquired the assets it ACTIVELY managed and improved them before selling them.

Value-added.

He says this is THE most important point of the program.

I'm perplexed why Americans steadfastly omit mention of this critical element in their discussions of it.

It shortchanges the discussion of it.

Matt Dubuque

November 15, 2008 9:34 AM

Anonymous said...
sounds to me its more a crisis of our political system than economic system. Politicians don't dare to tell people the truth anymore, instead they hope central bankers can turn the tide with some tricks.

November 15, 2008 10:07 AM

john bougearel said...
Yves,

First let me say thank you.

This post and the link to FT on the 4 Bund failures this year are very important developments.

The fact that Bund Yields continue to go lower in spite of failed auctions in the Bund signals capital preservation trumps demand for higher returns in a deflation spiral.

How long this deflation spiral lasts is a doozy. My own models suggest anywhere between 2009 to 2011, which leaves plenty of room for the ugly economic collapse to get a whole lot uglier. It is possible that we just ain't seen ugly yet. That is the downside risk we face.

Yves, you do a masterful job at capturing the many different faces of the economic collapse we face.

It is almost xmas time girlfriend, so bring out the figgy-pudding, I mean tip jar, and have a happy new year!

November 15, 2008 10:53 AM

john bougearel said...
As a footnote, Chris Whalen is one of the many along with Anna Schwartz who have pointed out that the liquidity crisis of August 2007 has morphed into a solvency crisis.

You are right to point out that the US has too much of a vested interest in saving the flawed financial system, and this should scare the bejeezus out of the public. I know it scares me. As you have pointed out before, "broke is broke." And Paulson's latest redirect or reform of the TARP plan to "rescue consumer lending" will only put the consumer even further under-water than he already is.

Paulson simply does not get the fact that the consumer is broke, so his insistence that they go and borrow more signals he does not get the fact that crisis for the consumer has moved beyond liquidity to that of solvency.

I quote Paulson on Nov 12: "Illiquidity in this sector [consumer credit]is raising the cost and reducing the availability of car loans, student loans, and credit cards." Paulson mistakenly sees the distressed debt-burdened consumer as starving for even more credit "This is creating a heavy burden on the American People," he added.

The model is broken, you

November 15, 2008 11:21 AM

john bougearel said...
Yves, you also point out the US is "determined to minimize immediate pain, no matter how great the damage to long term health."

I think about this determination often, and in my reflections I have to believe this is rooted in our deep-seated fears stemming from the Great Depression.

Never wanting to fall into another one, our policymakers have determined to "never let it happen again."

Their policies of accommodation at any cost whatsoever, indicates just how fearful they are of the business cycle when it begins to contract.

November 15, 2008 11:27 AM

john bougearel said...
Re: the 30- year auction: the 2.07 bid to cover was not that horrible. The 18% participation from indirect bidders is more alarming given that their participation was 43% in the last 30 year auction. The three and ten year auctions went far better than the 30 yr auction this week.

Cabot money manager William Larkin is right, "people are looking for the safety of shorter term securities." And that includes foreign central banks.

November 15, 2008 11:44 AM

Anonymous said...
So how do you solve a solvency crises? I am talking one of global proportions with a massive and unsustainable debt.

November 15, 2008 11:55 AM

john bougearel said...
@Francois,

Thank you, the refusal of our political authorities to "bite the bullet" as you say, "could be our undoing" And unfortunately, our lawmakers collective refusal to "educate themselves properly on economic matters" is a very sore point with me. When I read statements from Frank et. al. about this economic collapse, I find them by and large so offensive that sometimes I wish we could take Frank out behind the barn and put him out of "our" misery.

Frank's comments in recent weeks/months are of the worst sort precisely because he chairs the Senate Finance Committee. If anyone should be up to snuff as a representative/watchdog for the american public, it should be him, but he fails us miserably. Frank is not an overrated asset to the American people, he is to be blunt, a liability.

November 15, 2008 12:06 PM

luther said...
danke schoen for the benjamin mundanomaniac. unfortunately my deutch ist nicht so gut.

browardhome over @ CR shared another gem yesterday by Ravi Batra along the same lines.

http://www.proutworld.org/ideology/existence/undprout.htm

"Human beings all seek unlimited joy, but material objects, being limited, can never offer that. The limited cannot yield the unlimited."

with all the doomgloomers abound now, why this man is not more widely quoted in the blogosphere is curious to me.

perhaps because he offers a way out thru the gloomdoom and most gloomdoomers can only reinforce darkness so they can continue profiting from the gloomdoom (even if the profit is only their self-identity).

much like capitalists actually...

November 15, 2008 12:18 PM

One of the underlying assumptions of the Fed's and many other central banks' response to the credit crisis is that it can be halted, and hopefully remedied, by having the government backstop the troubled financial sector. One template is not to repeat the supposed mistakes of the Great Depression and Japan's post bubble era, where conventional wisdom has it downturn morphed into disasters as a result of the failure of central banks to break glass and supply liquidity aggressively enough. A second model is Sweden. There, the government intervened aggressively to combat a large scale banking crisis by nationalizing failing banks (they had a methodology for doing triage, to determine who could be saved and who needed to be liquidated or merged), spun the bad assets off into a liquidation vehicle, recapitalized what remained, and sold them off when the economy recovered.

However, these paradigms are being applied selectively, with the politically convenient bits being implemented and the harder remedies ignored. The Fed moved quickly to cut rates and then create special vehicles to help provide liquidity to markets that appeared stuck. But this response came out of both Bernanke's study of (one might say fixation with) the Depression. plus the "if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail" syndrome. Central banks are in the liquidity business, so they tend to fall back on the tools they have at hand, rather than going to the more difficult process of building political support for other types of solutions.

For instance, a number of observers, ranging from Depression expert Anna Schwarts and the Japanese have taken issue with the heavy reliance on liquidity injections. Schwartz has pointed out, as many others have, that the current financial meltdown is not a liquidity crisis but a solvency crisis. Both Schwartz and the Japanese recommended approaches that put much greater priority on purging bad assets (Schwartz recommended letting insolvent firms fail, while the Japanese urged speedy recapitalizations).

And even the Swedish approach, which is now being given lip service, is largely ignored. One of its key elements was that the banking system had grown disproportionately, unsustainably large, and needed to be shrunk. The US, by contrast, is not only trying to prop up the financial system in place, but also wants it to make more loans to keep the economy going. In other words, they want to make the underlying problem of overleverage worse.

Since the US looks borrowings relative to GDP are higher than Sweden's were at the time of its crisis, the need to figure out how to reduce indebtedness is crucial. Some analysts have pegged US debt to GDP at 350%; reader Bjornar kindly did some digging, and based on this and this source concluded Swedish debt to GDP in 1990 was roughly 170%. While both estimates are admittedly quick and dirty, the obvious shortcomings in the US estimate suggest it is, if anything, understated.

However, reducing indebtedness means a lower GDP, when the idea of letting growth suffer is anathema. Yet Sweden, which is widely held as a model, did in fact have a very nasty two year recession, but had a strong rebound afterwards. Most analysts believe this was the least costly approach, in terms of long-term consequences. Yet the US seems determined to minimize immediate pain, not matter how great damage to long-term economic health.

Moreover, the US is starting to get warning signs that it may encounter resistance from our friendly foreign funding soruces when we ask them to pick up the tab for our debt party. Willem Buiter, who was a front-row spectator in the Iceland meltdown (he and Anne Siebert were bought in to advise the authorities late in the game, and they evidently didn't heed Buiter's and Sieber's advice) warns that having the government rescue the banking sector does not reduce risk but merely transfers it, and investors are wising up:
Under current circumstances, if the government injects capital into a bank to compensate for past and anticipated future losses, it may not achieve a risk-adjusted expected rate of return on this investment equal to its borrowing cost. The difference will have to be recouped through higher future primary surpluses, that is, higher future government budget surpluses excluding interest payments. If there is doubt in the markets about the ability or willingness of current and/or future governments to raise future taxes or cut future spending to generate the required increase in future primary surpluses, the default risk premium on the public debt will rise. We are seeing such increased default risk premia even for the most credit-worthy sovereigns, including the German government, the US government and the UK government. On Friday October 10, 2008, the spreads on 5 year sovereign CDS were 0.456% for the UK, 0.33% for the USA ad 0.265% for Germany, well above their post-war historical averages. On October 28, 2008, Bloomberg wrote:
Credit-default swaps on [U.S.] Treasuries have risen nearly 40 percent since TARP was signed into law Oct. 3, and are now about the same as Mexican and Thai government debt before the credit markets began to seize up in June 2007.
By bailing out the banks, and other bits of the financial system, the authorities reduce bank default risk but by increasing sovereign default risk. As long as there is sufficient fiscal spare capacity (the technical, economic and political prerequisites are met for raising future taxes and/or cutting future public spending by a sufficient amount to service the additional public debt and maintain long-run government solvency).
One worry about government solvency being compromised by the need to rescue an overly large banking sector.Buiter, unlike Paul Krugman and other prominent US economists, warns that there are indeed limits to how many commitments a a government can take on. Markets can and will exercise discipline (Buiter argues mainly from the UK perspective, but his logic applies to any government):
The key question is, can the government meet all these fiscal commitments, whether firm or flaccid, unconditional or contingent and explicit or implicit ? Does it have the resources, now and in the future, to issue the additional debt required to meet the growing volume of up-front obligations it has taken on?

To be solvent, the face value of the government's net financial obligations has to be no larger than the present discounted value of current and future primary government surpluses (government surpluses excluding net interest and other investment income)....

In addition to the debt that has been and will be issued to finance asset purchases by the government, there are the future debt issuance associated with the large cyclical and structural government deficits that will be a feature of the coming recession. If GDP falls peak-to-trough by, say 3.5 percent and recovers only slowly, we could have a seven percent of GDP or higher government deficit for 2009 and 2010. Together with the explicit or implicit fiscal commitments made to safeguard the British banking system, the numbers are likely to spook the markets.
With the true net public debt to GDP ratio probably already well above 100 percent of GDP and rising, and with massive public sector deficits, partly cyclical and partly structural, about to materialise, the markets will question the fiscal-financial sustainability of the government's programme with increasing vehemence. The CDS spreads on UK public debt will start rising. The notion that, except for currency, there may not be a safe sterling-denominated asset may come as a shock. But the same is true in the US. In 2009, the US government will have to sell (gross) at least $ 2 trillion worth of government debt (the sum of the Federal deficit plus asset purchases plus refinancing of maturing debt). The largest such figure ever in the past was $550 billion. In the US too, the markets will have to learn to do without a US dollar financial instrument that is free of default risk.
Buiter's comments on the US raise a second issue: even if investors are not worried about the risk of a sovereign default, there is going to be so much government debt for sale that yields will rise, merely based on supply and demand. We are seeing signs of that now. Consider this warning sign from Germany, the unheard of specter of the failure of a government bond auction of a highly credit-worthy state, via the Financial Times (hat tip readers Chris and Don):
For any government looking to raise money in the capital markets in the next few months, there was an ominous development in Germany this week.

A German 10-year bond auction failed – something more or less unheard of until this year – as cash-strapped banks and investors snubbed the government offering.

It is a clear sign of straitened times when a benchmark bond in one of the most liquid markets in the world cannot attract enough bids to reach its target amount.

Crucially, it raises serious doubts about whether governments can raise the vast amounts of debt needed to fund fiscal stimulus packages and bank recapitalisations in the current tough market conditions.

Any sign of waning demand may force up bond yields – putting further pressure on public finances when they are already under strain.

Nowhere is the issue more pressing than in the US.

Tony Crescenzi, strategist at Miller Tabak, says: "In a world with finite capital and where sovereign nations everywhere are in need of capital to finance their financial and economic stabilisation efforts, the substantial increase in Treasury supply could become manifested in higher long-term interest rates."

Rick Klingman, managing director at BNP Paribas, adds: "There is no doubt that supply will matter at some point as the financing needs are staggering [in the US]. At the moment, supply is not a large factor with stocks in freefall"....

US Treasury bond supply is expected to hit record levels, in a range from $1,400bn to $1,750bn in the 2009 financial year, starting in October. In Europe, bond supply is forecast to rise to more €1,000bn ($1,247bn) next year – also a record high, according to Barclays Capital.

The extraordinary thing is that, in spite of this huge supply, most analysts expect bond yields will fall. This is because many analysts are now anticipating a deep and protracted global recession, and talk of deflation is even stalking bond markets.

Yields have fallen particularly sharply at the shorter-end of the bond curve, which is most sensitive to interest rate movements, because of the accelerating slowdown in the world's economies.

Analysts say the economic backdrop is the key determinant of where yields will trade. At the moment equities are so unappealing to investors that bond markets appear more attractive, offsetting supply concerns.

Some government bond yields are also historically low, around levels last seen in 2005, and much lower than in June when inflation concerns dominated trade. For example, German 10-year Bund yields are trading at 3.63 per cent, compared with 4.68 per cent in June.

Riccardo Barbieri, a strategist at Bank of America, says: "In the unlikely event that yields should rise, which I would not expect, they are coming from a fairly low level."

Germany – in spite of its fourth 10-year Bund failure this year – and the US are likely to be more successful in attracting investors and depressing yields, should the difficult conditions persist, than other countries as they have the most liquid markets and are seen as safe havens...

Another problem for the governments is the competition from banks and financial institutions, which have sovereign guarantees yet offer much higher yields.

For example, this week the UK's Nationwide priced a three-year deal at close to 100 basis points over gilts.

"The simplistic question is, why buy government paper when you can buy government-backed paper such as this for a much greater return?," says Sean Shepley, fixed income strategist at Credit Suisse.

With an expected €1,600bn of bank guaranteed issuance in Europe alone next year, this could have a significant impact on investor appetite for government bonds.

Mr Chapman says: "In spite of the prospect of this huge issuance, yields are not being forced higher. This shows just how gloomy people are about the economic outlook."
Personally, I think investors are so shell-shocked by the crisis that they are only thinking about what to do this quarter, and not about the longer term. Just as during the waning days of the bubble, Citi's Chuck Prince talked of dancing as long as the music was playing, and assuming he and Citi could exit risky positions when the time came, so to many investors may recognize the risk of a rise in government bond yields, but similarly assume they can sell if that comes to pass without taking too much of a loss.

In another, more widely reported sign of stress, the US 30 bond auction this week saw a big drop in demand from central banks, a crucial group of buyers. From Bloomberg:
Treasuries fell, led by 30-year bonds, after investors shunned the government's $10 billion sale of the securities amid concern that U.S. debt sales will grow....

The bond auction followed yesterday's sale of $20 billion in 10-year notes. The $30 billion total of the two auctions is the biggest amount of the securities sold in a week since at least 1990...

``In the current market environment there are still too many unknowns,'' said William Larkin, a portfolio manager at Cabot Money Management in Salem, Massachusetts, which manages about $500 million in assets. ``People are looking for the safety of the shorter-term securities.''

Today's bond auction forecast to draw a yield of 4.224 percent, according to the average estimate of seven bond-trading firms surveyed by Bloomberg News. The bid-to-cover ratio, which gauges demand by comparing the number of bids to the amount of securities sold, was 2.07, below the average of 2.19 times in the nine auctions since the bond was revived in 2006.

Indirect bidders, a class of investors that includes foreign central banks, bought 18 percent of the securities offered, down from 43 percent at the last sale.
The skittish may due in part to the G20 meeting this weekend, which could be a negative for the dollar if China's pet theme, the need to move away from the dollar as reserve currency, gets a hearing. The dollar and Treasuries tend to move together. But this is not the first weak Treasury auction we've seen, and if they become more than isolated events, it bodes ill for the strategy many central banks are taking.

posted by Yves Smith at 12:17 AM on Nov 15, 2008

[Nov 14, 2008] Retail Sales Down 2.8% in October

Yet more evidence that consumers are hurting. From the Wall Street Journal:

U.S. retail sales took a record dive in October as consumers afraid for their jobs continued a retreat heading into the holiday shopping season and cut back spending on a wide variety of goods ranging from cars to furniture to electronics.

Separately, U.S. import prices fell at a record pace last month, further evidence that falling oil prices and the slowing global economy are having a rapid damping effect on inflation. Assuming that trend is confirmed by upcoming producer and consumer price reports, Federal Reserve policymakers should have added flexibility to address the credit crisis through liquidity programs and even more rate cuts without worrying about an inflationary outbreak.

[Nov 13, 2008] Who will finance America's deficit? By David P Goldman

Where will the Treasury find the money?
Nov 13, 2008 | Asia Times Online

The United States government needs to borrow US$1 trillion a year, before a new stimulus package, or handouts for the auto industry, or healthcare reform, or a dozen other spending programs promised by the incoming administration of president-elect Barack Obama. Where will the Treasury find the money?

A bizarre jump in the US Treasury's real cost of borrowing points to severe market disruption if the Treasury deficit continues to rise. It appears that the Treasury market is also a victim of global de-leveraging. The new administration has far less budgetary flexibility that it seems to think. In 1981, under comparable circumstances, Ronald Reagan had far greater room to maneuver. I conclude that the new administration is virtually powerless to prevent marked deterioration of the US economy.

A comparison of Obamanonomics and Reaganomics is instructive. Even in the unlikely event that the Obama administration were to adopt Reagan-style incentives to risk-taking and investment, the effect of such incentives would be weaker and slower to take effect than in 1981-1984.

Exhibit 1: Inflation-indexed 10-year Treasury (TIPS) yield
vs 10-year breakeven inflation.

As shown in Exhibit 1, the yield of the 10-year inflation-indexed Treasury (TIPS) tripled from 1% to 3% between June and October 2008. Nominal Treasury yields fell slightly, because the inflation-expectations component of Treasury yields (the difference between ordinary 10-year Treasury notes and inflation-indexed TIPS) collapsed, from 250 basis points to less than 100 basis points.

The jump in TIPS yields should ring alarm bells. It is not only that inflation-indexed Treasury yields never have risen so fast and so far since their introduction in 1997. What is most bizarre is that the movement in "real" Treasury yields is not only massive, but in the wrong direction. Both economic theory and all past experience tell us that when economic activity falls, "real" yields also should fall.

Exhibit 2 below shows that 10-year TIPS, or "real" Treasury yields have moved in the same direction as equity market returns. The inflation-adjusted Treasury bond yield is a rough proxy for real long-term interest rates (it is only a proxy because the consumer price index - or CPI - is not necessarily a good measure of inflation). Real rates are supposed to reflect growth expectations; higher growth means higher returns to financial assets, including bonds. TIPS yields are plotted against 12-month returns to the S&P 500. The two lines move together except during the past few weeks, when they take sharply opposed directions.

Exhibit 2: TIPS yields triple while S&P 500 crashes.

How weird the behavior of TIPS yields has been during the past few months is made even clearer by Exhibit 3, below. We observe that TIPS yields and S&P 500 returns lined up neatly between 2004 and 2008, and suddenly moved in the opposite direction.

Exhibit 3: Scatter plot of TIPS Yields vs 12-month S&P 500 returns, January 2004 through October 2008.


Just when we should have expected "real" Treasury yields to collapse along with equity market returns, they spiked upwards, and by the largest margin on record. Evidently something has changed, and changed drastically. One component of Treasury yields, expected inflation, has collapsed, and the "real" component has jumped.

There is no question as to why the expected-inflation component has fallen, for it has done so along with the S&P 500 and the main commodity price index (the Constant Maturity Commodities Index published by UBS and Bloomberg). This relationship is shown in Exhibit 4 below.

Exhibit 4: 10-year breakeven inflation, Constant Maturity Commodity Price Index and S&P 500, February 1, 2008 to November 6, 2008 (normalized).


Equity, commodity and Treasury bond markets all are registering a deflationary crash in precisely the same way. That seems clear enough. The dog that barked, but shouldn't have, is the "real" component of Treasury yields.

The answer to the mystery of tripled real Treasury yields is to be found in the collapse of leverage in the global financial system. Indirectly, the rapid expansion of leverage in the global banking system contributed to demand for Treasuries. When de-leveraging commenced in August, an important component of demand for Treasuries declined sharply. That is bad news for Washington, but even worse news is that it will continue to decline sharply, just when Washington most requires global support for the US government debt market.

Global leverage indirectly increased demand for Treasuries in three principal ways:
1. It fed the boom in raw materials prices, increasing demand for Treasuries on the part of central banks as well as financial institutions in commodity-producing countries.
2. It pushed up the value of emerging market currencies, prompting emerging market central banks to intervene in foreign exchange markets by purchasing dollars which then were invested in Treasuries.
3. It contributed to the rise in global equity prices, which prompted investors to diversify their portfolios and purchase safer assets including Treasuries.

The carry trade, in which investors borrow low-interest currencies (dollars or yen) and buy high-interest emerging market currencies, created demand for Treasuries by funneling money into emerging markets that ended up as dollar reserves in their central banks.

Exhibit 5: Net foreign purchases of US Treasury securities,
12-month rolling total.

At the peak of demand for US government securities, net foreign purchases of Treasuries came to $400 billion per year, according to the Treasury's TIC data base (Exhibit 5). Who were the buyers? The Treasury data offers some answers.

Exhibit 6: Foreign holdings of US Treasury securities as of August 2008 (US$ billions): total holdings, year-on-year
%
change, and year-on-year absolute change.


We observe that the biggest increase came from offshore banking centers (the UK, Switzerland, Luxembourg, and Caribbean banking centers). This tells us little because anyone may transact through such centers. "Other emerging markets", notably Brazil and other commodity producers, were the second-largest contributor, followed by Japan and the oil exporters.

Private purchases of Treasuries are larger than official flows in recent years, as shown in Exhibit 7:

Exhibit 7: Private vs official net purchases of US Treasury securities.

As noted, private purchases of US Treasuries seem to scale to global wealth. We observe a fairly close relationship between global equity market capitalization (as measured by the MSCI World Index) and private purchases of US Treasuries, as in Exhibit 8.

Exhibit 8: Private net purchases of US Treasuries scale to MSCI World Index, 1988-2008.


An exception occurred during the peak of the US equity boom of the late 1990s, when Treasury purchases fell off at the peak of the boom. Evidently this exception reflected the general euphoria of the time and investor preference for riskier assets. We do not have Treasury data past August, and it well may be the case that a similar exception will emerge during the second half of 2008, as foreign investors increase their net purchases of Treasuries while stock markets crash, and for a symmetrically opposite reason. Investors may prefer safer assets.

We cannot directly estimate the impact of de-leveraging on the Treasury market, but it seems clear that the explosion of leverage during the past five years had a profound, if temporary, impact on the world market's demand for US government securities. As a rough gauge of the growth of global leverage, we observe that between 2003 and 2008, US banks' claims on foreigners nearly tripled from $1.2 trillion to $3 trillion.

Exhibit 9: American banks' claims on foreigners.

We can observe in the movement of market prices, though, a close relationship between the breakdown of the carry trade and the rise in real Treasury yields. Withdrawal of leverage from the system forced market participants to liquidate carry trade positions, that is, to unwind short positions in Japanese yen, and to liquidate long positions in carry trade currencies such as the Brazilian real, Turkish lira, South African rand, Australian dollar and so forth. I use the parity of the Brazilian real to Japanese yen as a rough proxy of demand for carry trade. As Exhibit 10 below makes clear, the collapse of the carry trade (the fall of the Brazilian real against the yen) closely tracks the rise in 10-year TIPS yields. The visual relationship is confirmed by econometric analysis.

Exhibit 10: Inflation-indexed (TIPS) Treasury yield vs Brazilian real/yen parity.

The Treasury market benefited from the explosion of bank leverage during the past 10 years, as emerging market central banks became the most important new buyers of US government securities. De-leveraging and the collapse of commodity markets combine to destroy global demand for Treasuries, limiting the US government's capacity to borrow from overseas sources.

Other major holders of US Treasury securities are likely to wish to reduce their holdings rather than to increase them. China's accumulation of foreign reserves represented "rainy day" savings for the nation, and the severity of the present crisis shows how well-advised China was to accumulate a large volume of reserves. China has announced plans to spend the equivalent of 20% of gross domestic product in a stimulus program which is likely to increase the country's demand for foreign capital goods.

China's trade surplus is likely to diminish sharply, both due to falling export demand and import growth arising from the stimulus package. Chinese reserves are likely to cease growing and may even decline as a result. Oil-producing countries, moreover, may have to spend reserves in order to maintain import levels as a result of the collapse of oil prices.

Foreign net purchases of US Treasury securities peaked at a $400 billion annual rate, and will fall sharply from this level. Domestic resources to purchase Treasury securities, moreover, are thin. When Ronald Reagan took office, America's personal savings rate was 10%; today it is around 0%, although it has spiked up in recent months. Disposable income in the US now stands at slightly under $11 trillion. If the US returned to the personal saving rate of 1981, individuals would save $1 trillion a year, enough to fund the Treasury deficit, assuming that all net new portfolio investment flowed into Treasury securities. Nothing, though, would be left over for investment in anything else.

One way to gauge how onerous the Treasury's borrowing requirements appear compared with available savings is to take the ratio of government borrowing to gross private savings, as in Exhibit 11 below.

Exhibit 11: Federal budget deficit as a % of gross private savings.

We observe that in 1981, the deficit stood at around 15% of gross private savings, and reached 30% at the worst. The deficit already has reached 50% of gross private savings, before the new administration has had the opportunity to increase spending.

In 1981, moreover, the United States was in current account surplus, and foreign purchases of Treasury securities were a very small factor in the financing of the government deficit. Today, the current account deficit (and the corresponding capital account surplus) is almost 6% of GDP.

It is far from clear from whom, and on what terms, the US Treasury will obtain $1 trillion a year, or even more, to finance its deficit. The overseas well has run dry, and domestic financing of the deficit would require a drastic increase in the savings rate at the expense of spending, or outright monetization of the debt by the Federal Reserve.

One way to increase the government savings rate, of course, is to increase taxes, but that is an unlikely course of action during a severe recession.

Monetization of debt remains a possibility, and to some extent would only continue the current trend. Total Federal Reserve Bank credit outstanding has more than doubled in the year to November 6, 2008, rising by $1.2 trillion to $2.06 trillion. This reflects loans, securities purchases, and related actions by the Fed to bail out the financial system. If the deflation persists, the Federal Reserve may be compelled to purchase US government debt.

Another possibility is that risk appetite among investors at home and abroad will continue to fall, inducing a portfolio shift towards Treasury securities. In this case "crowding out" will occur through risk-preference. It will not be so much that competing borrowers are crowded out of the lending market, but that investors will stampede away from risk. In this scenario, even a very low federal funds rate will not help to restore economic activity.

The point of lowering the risk-free rate is to push investors towards riskier assets. In a normal business cycle, falling output leads to lower yields on low-risk bonds, which in turn encourages investors to add risk to their portfolios by investing in businesses. If the safest of all investments, namely US Treasuries, suddenly offer much higher real yields, comparable to the boom years of the late 1990s, why should investors take risk?

In any of these scenarios, the result of global de-leveraging is dire: the more the US government tries to bail out businesses and households, the more bailing out the economy will need. The Bush administration's response to the financial crisis, and the likely content of the Obama administration's economic program, will deepen and prolong the economic downturn.

It is not generally remembered that the premise of the Reagan administration's tax cuts was Robert Mundell's work on the optimal level of government debt. Mundell, who won the Nobel Prize in 1991 for his work on international economics, observed that an increase in government debt might represent an improvement in market efficiency, if it corresponded to an increase in incomes. That might occur if a reduction in taxes caused an increase in the deficit, while stimulating economic growth. In that case, Mundell argued, a tax cut would increase efficiency if the additional revenues arising from the growth effect were larger than the interest on the bonds issued to cover the ensuing deficit.

In 1981, Ronald Reagan had a very different starting point:
1. The personal savings rate stood at 10%.
2. The current account was in surplus.
3. The top marginal tax rate was 70%.

The capacity of the US and the world to finance an increase in the federal deficit was much greater, and the incentives arising from reducing the top marginal tax rate from 70% to 40% were much greater than any incentives that might be envisioned from tax cuts from the present level.

Even the best-designed economic policy would be hard-put to provide growth incentives without a substantial increase in the savings rate and a corresponding reduction of consumption, implying a very sharp economic contraction. If the Treasury tries to spend its way out of recession, the results are likely to be very disappointing.

David P Goldman was global head of fixed-income research for Banc of America Securities and global head of credit strategy at Credit Suisse.

[Nov 13, 2008] Ka-Poom Theory deflation - inflation two step Too complex for deflationsts to grasp - iTulip.com Forums

The deflation-inflation two-step: Too complex for deflationsts to grasp?

By mistaking the short term for the long term, they are missing the trade of the century

by Eric Janszen

Over 100 books, papers, and original analysis went into developing and refining Ka-Poom Theory over the years, and model that explains how, following the collapse of the credit bubble, the US economy will experience a short (six month to one year) period of deflation that we call disinflation, such as we are experiencing today, followed by a major inflation induced by monetary and fiscal policy and the actions of US trade partners in response to that inflation.

It appears that the deflationista camp is incapable of comprehending a model, and the events that it forecasts, that lays out a two step process. For some reason they cannot grasp the fact governments will respond to disinflation with inflation, that the impact of those interventions is not instantaneous, and that markets historically are not very good at foreseeing the change in inflationary conditions in either direction.

Ka-Poom Theory in 1999, the original disinflation/reflation theory developed nearly ten years ago, does not merely forecast a period of deflation or disinflation that is inevitable after the massive credit bubble popped. A child could do that. We call it "Ka" as the first step in the two step process outlined by Ka-Poom Theory. The difficult part is forecasting what comes after the disinflation phase. Does the Fed sit back and do nothing while the debt deflation runs out of cotnrol? Does the Fed have a choice, or does it become impotent, overwhelmed by the rate of debt defaults and money destruction?

The deflationistas apparently think what comes after post-bubble deflation is more deflation, as occurred in the early 1930s in the US but nowhere else ever since. It has not occurred to the deflationists why no similar period of deflation has ever occurred since the 1930s, or when they do confront the question they explain that the debt is really, really, really big debt this time, bigger than the Fed. Or that differences between the kind of money that the Fed prints versus the kind of money that the endogenous credit markets create when money is loaned into being by businesses and consumers means the Fed cannot impact the latter.

As we explain that in The truth about deflation, the reason no deflation spiral has occurred in any nation since the one instance in the US in the 1930s is because since then no nation has chosen to remain on the gold standard through a debt deflation. Needless to say, the US is not on a gold standard today.

What governments do when confronted with a deflation spiral is take measures to increase the money supply to induce inflation. If they succeed and money aggregates are increased, over time inflation will follow.

Money first, inflation second

One of the better papers on this topic is No money, no inflation-the role of money in the economy by Mervyn King, Deputy Governor, Bank of England. It was presented to the Festschrift in honour of Professor Charles Goodhart held at the Bank of England on 15 November 2001.

Most people think economics is the study of money. But there is a paradox in the role of money in economic policy. It is this: that as price stability has become recognised as the central objective of central banks, the attention actually paid by central banks to money has declined.

It is no accident that during the 'Great Inflation' of the post-war period money, as a causal factor for inflation, was ignored by much of the economic establishment. In the late 1970s, the counter-revolution in economics-the idea that in the long run money affected the price level and not the level of output-returned money to centre stage in economic policy. As Milton Friedman put it, 'inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon'. If inflation was a monetary phenomenon, then controlling the supply of money was the route to low inflation. Monetary aggregates became central to the conduct of monetary policy. But the passage to low inflation proved painful. Nor did the monetary aggregates respond kindly to the attempts by central banks to control them. As the governor of the Bank of Canada at the time, Gerald Bouey, remarked, 'we didn't abandon the monetary aggregates, they abandoned us'.

So, as central banks became more and more focused on achieving price stability, less and less attention was paid to movements in money. Indeed, the decline of interest in money appeared to go hand in hand with success in maintaining low and stable inflation. How do we explain the apparent contradiction that the acceptance of the idea that inflation is a monetary phenomenon has been accompanied by the lack of any reference to money in the conduct of monetary policy during its most successful period? That paradox is the subject of my talk.

This paper contributed three concepts to Ka-Poom Theory that deflationistas should think very carefully about. Read the paper and its conclusions are inescapable.

One, if "No money, no inflation" then if "Money, inflation." Two, money first, inflation second with long and unpredictable time lags. Three, the money markets always get it wrong; inflation expectations are sticky following periods of deflation and sticky following periods of inflation. The big money to be made in our fiat money era is in betting that the bond market is getting it wrong rather than assuming that a market that is forecasting future inflation or deflation is getting it right. When governments are inflating, the bond markets tend to be right short term, wrong long term.

That being the case, this may be the trade of the century because the bond markets are pricing corporates, treasury bonds, and TIPs as if it's 1931 and the US and the world was on the gold standard, or it's 1974 and recession is about to take inflation down for the count. Mike Shedlock does a good job of describing the phenomena here recently in Industrial Bond Yields Strongly Support Deflation Thesis. The error is mistaking short term for long term inflation pricing phenomena. The one step deflationists miss the all important second step in the two-step Ka-Poom deflation/inflation process.

King demonstrates the long term correlation between money and inflation in the UK going back to 1885..



Next he shows the correlation between money and inflation in specific national cases where money aggregates grow, and offers several examples. One inflation case is Israel 1984 to 1987 shown below. This is more or less the level of inflation that iTulip expects during the inflation phase, not exceeding 30% or so in peak years.


King presents Japan 1990 to 2001 as an example of a country that did not expand money aggregates and experienced modest deflation but nothing like what occurred in the US in the 1930s.



The heart of King's argument, backed by solid research, is:

[The charts show ] the correlation between the growth of the monetary base and inflation over different time horizons for a large sample of 116 countries. Countries with faster growth rates of money experience higher inflation. It is clear from [the charts] that the correlation between money growth and inflation is greater the longer is the time horizon over which both are measured. In the short run, the correlation between monetary growth and inflation is much less apparent.
King backs up this assertion with solid analysis. Here are a few relevant charts.



Is the US Japan 1990 or Israel 1984?

If past growth in money aggregates in the US spells higher inflation in five to ten years, then why are the bond markets betting on continued deflation? The TIPs market is signaling sub 1% annual inflation going out five years.

We accept the conclusion of King's research that inflation will eventually follow from money growth. Let's turn our attention to money aggregates here in the US.

Unfortunately, the Fed in 2006 removed one of the main tools available to measure broad money, M3. The conspiracy minded might find the timing of the Fed's decision to omit this data as extraordinarily convenient. We think it is intended to keep the bond market guessing while a range of new policy tools are tried to combat debt deflation.

The Economist in Inflation or deflation? weighed in July this year with the following assessment.

What makes the situation so obscure is the leads and lags in the economic data. The global economy is still absorbing the impact of the rise in oil above $100 a barrel, let alone its subsequent gains. And the Federal Reserve's long series of rate cuts are still working their way through the system. Then there is the American tax rebate, still sitting in many consumers' bank accounts.

That suggests both the inflationists and the deflationists are going to have plenty of ammunition over the next few months. In turn, that will make it hard for investors to make a decisive choice, and that means the volatility in financial markets will continue over the next few months.

Long term, the inflationists look to have a better case. The world has paper money and the central bank that runs its reserve currency (the dollar) has repeatedly erred on the side of loose monetary policy, for economic and financial reasons. Emerging markets, nowadays the drivers of global growth, have loose monetary policies in aggregate. Treasury bonds may occasionally benefit from flights to safety over the next few months, particularly as the banking sector continues to struggle. But it is hard to believe that yields of 4% or so will look good value in five years' time.

Money at Zero Maturity remains, but we worry that it does not include all of the money that was in M3, and through its creativity entirely new M's have been invented -- call them M4, M5, M6 -- that we cannot see because they are nor reported by the Fed. Still, even MZM shows 17% growth since the beginning of the crisis in Q1 2007.



Has the bond market gotten it wrong before?

Short term no, long term yes. This makes for interesting trading opportunities if you know can figure out what the bond markets don't know before they do.



The current parting of company between corporate bonds and Treasury Bills reminds us of the 1973-74 recession. That disconnect was resolved when inflation fell at the end of the recession along with treasury and corporate bond yields; bond prices increased. That appears to be what the bond market is saying today and in spades.

As we know now, that didn't last long: the US had a lot of debt to inflate away, and so it did between 1975 and 1980. A few years later inflation was in the double digits. While the bond markets were "right" in the short run they were "wrong" in the long run. A great trade then was BAA bonds purchased at 11% in 1974 during the worst of the recession when default rates were highest and inflation expectations lowest, then sold in 1977 when these bonds increased in value to 8% before inflation picked up again, then bought again at 17% in 1983 and held to maturity. High corporate yields and treasury bonds in 1974 and 1983 signaling high default and inflation risk. Will we see a trade like that again?

There are two major differences between this period and that one.

  1. TBills were trading near 9% versus 1% today. Deflationists interpret this to mean that there is no inflation risk priced into corp. bonds. But how much lower can TBills go before the Fed has to shock the system, if it hasn't already?
  2. Year over year inflation volatility was low then but has been the highest in history since 2001.
Given the lags between money growth, the stickiness of inflation expectations in bond markets, and the Fed's lack of money aggregate transparency while experimenting with the money markets, and inflation volatility scrambling inflation signals, anyone trying to forecast inflation by looking at bond yields and spreads or commodity prices under these unusual circumstances is like a pilot flying through a storm and depending on the airspeed indicator to measure ground speed and calculate future distance.

The Fed won't give us the complete picture of our money supply deflationary or inflationary headwinds. The inflation data that we do have, a lagging indicator of past money growth as King's research shows, are all over the place. Apparently the bond markets think deflationary head winds are so strong that the plane is flying backwards and will continue to do so for years. Will we land in the land of oz? Will we land at all or go up in a ball of deflationary fire?

In this crazy environment what is likely to happen, as has happened in the past, is that the bond market will figure out all at once that pricing signals it mistook for a long term deflationary headwind were actually the deflationary down draft of a collapsing asset bubble followed by a powerful inflationary tailwind that started off as Fed induced money growth years before. Anyone caught on the wrong side of the market when that epiphany finally occurs will suffer the consequences. The deflationistas can take this as their final warning from the inventors of the original deflation/inflation cycle theory.

Timing? When will bond markets become unstuck?

Impossible. You are betting on a second order effects -- the bond market's interpretation of inflation resulting from past money growth, mostly hidden -- and network effects -- bond market participant's interpretations of each other's behavior. Even worse from a timing perspective, if the Fed takes drastic steps to signal an inflation change in the wind to halt deflation, it is not going to issue a polite warning that permits a quick trade out of portfolios positioned for an ongoing deflation. The resulting bond market reversal, as occurred in the early 1930s years before the dollar depreciation and reflation, can be tough on unhedged deflation positioned portfolios.

Samuel Brittan, writing for the Financial Times 28/03/03 said in an article How to escape the liquidity trap:

A popular course, frequently advocated for Japan, is pre-announced devaluation. This would both raise price expectation and provide a direct stimulus to exports. The biggest problem with this remedy is that it would be quite inappropriate if the threat of slump were international rather than confined to one country.
Brittan doesn't mean the US, he means Germany or Japan or any country except the US. A future dollar devaluation will not be the first time the US took "inappropriate" action with its currency to save its own skin, such as in 1934, 1971, twice in 1973, and a stealth devaluation from 2002 to 2008. Anyone who does not hold inflation hedges is betting that the US government won't behave in the future according to an established pattern of policy and behavior. That strikes us as unwise.

Flawed Framework

The framework of the inflation versus deflation debate is flawed from our perspective. It comes down to two camps, the inflationists like Marc Faber and Jim Rogers who claim that the US will some day be unable to sell more bonds and will eventually be forced to print money to cover fiscal expenses without issuing new debt. These are the Wiemar inflationists. The deflationist camp is represented best by Roubini who asserts that the US government cannot risk letting the inflation genie out of the bottle via unsterilized money injections and, anyway, such a policy, besides wrecking the reputation of the Fed, will not work to reduce overall debt levels because too much US debt is short term and rates will rise to cause repayment of aggregate debt to skyrocket.

This deflation/inflation framework is summarized in JP Morgan forecast: strong global recession, deflation.

Ka-Poom Theory since 1999 occupies a position outside this framework. It asserts that all of the money that the US needs to create monetary inflation that deflates both its external debts and domestic private debts already resides outside the US in the form of more than $13 trillion in gross external debt to the tune of 95% of GDP. Most of that debt is in the form of US treasury bonds. All the US has to do to devalue the dollar is induce its trade partners to sell, perhaps by indicating an intention to monetize debt wothout actually doing so, causing US creditors to sell some dollar denominated securities for assets not priced in dollars, resulting in an increase in the global supply of dollars. The effect is the same as the US printing money but without a corresponding issuance of new debt and the attendant risk of hyperinflation that Roubini refers to.

As the US learned years ago, why devalue your currency when you can get your creditors to do it for you? Nothing halts deflation like the inflation signals that issue forth from rising import prices. Has everyone already forgotten 2002 to 2006 when oil prices increased 300%? Since most US debt is held by central banks, the selling is unlikely to be disorderly. Why risk a runaway inflation if you can turn a knob and order a few percentage points of deflation fighting currency depreciation?

Between the inflation that is already baked into the cake by increases in monetary aggregates over the past year and the opportunity for the US to enlist its trade partners in the task of sending the dollar back down and inflation up, the second step of the two step Ka-Poom Theory process hovers somewhere over the horizon. PIMCO recently got back into TIPS. Better early than late.

Depression with inflation? How?

This is by far the most unintuitive part of our argument. Our ongoing unemployment analysis Unemployment by industry: Recession or depression? is pointing us to depression-like joblessness over the next couple of years. Where will the money come from to create inflation if so many are unemployed, borrowing is depressed, and banks are hanging on to the capital lent to them by the Fed?

The answer goes back to research that produced the graphic to the left. It is the reason why a government will engage in currency devaluations, if it thinks it can get away with it. From 2002 to 2008 when the dollar declined by 37% and the CRB Raw Industrials Index rose from a 2001 recession low of 225 to a 2008 peak of 525. Even if 50% of this increase was due to demand, 50% was do to dollar depreciation. That is a powerful anti-deflation force that also allowed the US to boost exports.

In countries where currency depreciation runs out of control, the inflationary impact is devastating, even as economic activity and output collapses. We don't expect that to happen to the US because it's debts are issued in its own currency.

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[Nov 11, 2008] Drawing Some Different Conclusions

Financial Armageddon

Some might be skeptical, but I've seen skilled technical analysts take nebulous-looking stock charts and add lines and descriptions that suddenly provide a great deal of clarity about what is going on.

While I'm not totally sure how talented he is as a chartist, Mike Shedlock, publisher of Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis, draws (yes, that's a pun) some counterintuitive conclusions from a graph that has many inflationistas foaming at the mouth in "Parents Pull Kids From Day Care (And Other Deflationary Topics)."

Why Not Hyperinflation?

One person who gets it right is Professor Depew at Minyanville in his post Five Things You Need to Know: Why Not Hyperinflation?

Almost every day I get notes wondering, "Why not hyperinflation?"

This is a good question. I'll try and explain why I believe a deflationary debt unwind is now underway, and why I believe it will be many years before we should start worrying about inflation again. In fact, by the time inflation becomes a legitimate concern, I expect the vast majority of people will find it as outrageous to worry about inflation then as found it outrageous last year when I made deflation one of my Five Themes for 2008.

While it is true, as those anticipating hyperinflation argue, the Fed and global central banks are making record amounts of credit available, that is only one side of the credit equation.

The assumption is that this record-breaking credit expansion means risk assets (stocks, commodities, etc.) will all skyrocket and the U.S. dollar will get destroyed. But what hyperinflationists fail to realize is that for an inflation (of either the tame or hyper variety) to take place, one must have both the means (credit from the fed and banks) and the motive (the desire to take on more debt) for credit expansion. For over a year now we have had record amounts of the former, but none of the latter. ...

[Nov 4, 2008] Inflation counts for nothing as Fed cuts rates - Gerard Baker: American View

Oct 30, 2008 | Times Online

The once unthinkable prospect of zero interest rates moved closer to reality yesterday. The US Federal Reserve announced an historic reduction in borrowing costs, pushing American interest rates to a level below which they have not been since the mid-1950s.

The Fed's decision to reduce its target for the Federal Funds rate, the main rate at which banks lend to each other overnight, by 0.5 percentage points to 1 per cent, was widely expected by financial markets.

But more striking was the clear accompanying signal from the central bank that it stood ready to lower rates even further in the face of the most difficult financial and economic climate in decades.

Explaining its decision, the Fed's policymaking Open Market Committee cited a long list of economic woes, from the continuing credit squeeze to weakness in countries around the world.

Looking to the future economic climate, the policymakers said: "Downside risks to growth remain." This was a hint that the next move in rates is more likely to be down.

With the cost of borrowing at 1 per cent, that suggests the strong probability that the US central bank will push rates all the way down to nothing if it has to in the next few months.

The US has not had zero interest rates in its modern economic history, although Japan, faced with a similarly challenging financial environment in the 1990s, held rates at that level for several years.

Key to the Fed's decision has been the ebbing of the inflation threat in the past month as energy and other costs have fallen sharply. Perhaps most significant in the Fed's statement was that for the first time in more than two years Ben Bernanke, the central bank chairman, and his colleagues indicated that inflation was no longer something they were worried about.

After every Open Market Committee meeting since 2006, the Fed has expressed concern in some form about the inflation outlook. But yesterday it said, in effect, that the war on inflation was over: "In light of the declines in the prices of energy and other commodities and the weaker prospects for economic activity, the Committee expects inflation to moderate in coming quarters to levels consistent with price stability."

US market interest rates are now as low as they have been since the Second World War. From mid-2003 the central bank held the Fed Funds rate at 1 per cent for a year in the wake of fears about deflation after the collapse of the stock market bubble in 2000-2001. Rates have not been below 1 per cent since 1954, when Dwight D. Eisenhower was President.

With the Fed's aggressive rate cut, attention now shifts to other central banks. Most financial market economists believe the European Central Bank and the Bank of England both need to cut rates sharply. The world is now in such parlous economic shape and the leading economies are so interconnected that monetary easing in one country will not suffice to avert a serious recession. US officials have been gently pressing their colleagues overseas to do more to cushion their economies from the effects of the financial crisis.

The Fed, the Bank of England and the ECB, along with other central banks, cut rates in a co-ordinated emergency move three weeks ago. The Bank and the ECB are expected to cut rates again next week. Meanwhile, the Chinese central bank has cut rates several times in the past month. It, too, is likely to go much farther in an effort to avert a serious slump.

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If you ever needed proof that the Fed and Paulson represent a greater threat to America than anybody hiding in a cave in Afganistan this is it. Bottomline; fools who stuff things up are unlikely to fix them.

Stephen Hargreaves, Hobart , Australia

leaders of developed economies are acting like drug addicts willing to admit their addiction (cheap money) but unwilling to suffer the cold turkey (repaying debt rather than creating more). hopefully the banks probably won't be so willing to act as the maligned dealer this time around

Rich, Birmingham, UK

I would like to hear from some savers how they feel about earning nothing on their savings..... If they turn to property for investment, won't that artificially hold up ptices and push us back to where we were?

Graham , Littlehampton,

[Nov 3, 2008] Confused Capitalist Two years out Deflation or Inflation

Everybody is talking about deflation these days as the flavour of the month. Commodities guru Jim Rogers makes the point that - virtually always - inflation follows monetary stimulus ... buy hard assets he recommends, to deal with the inflation which will inevitably follow the very significant stimulus being added world-wide to deal with the banking issues/financial crisis.

He says they are printing "gigantic" amounts of money, and "massive" ("terrible") inflation is coming, 6, 12, 24 months down the road, and the only way to get out of the way of this is to get out of paper assets.

Dollar falls against rivals Financial News - Yahoo! Finance

The U.S. dollar fell against the euro and the pound Tuesday as rising stock prices increased investor's appetite for the higher yielding currencies.

The euro was up 2.8% to buy $1.2999 from $1.2644 late Monday in New York. Earlier, the 15-nation currency rose more than 3% to a session high of $1.3027, marking the sharpest intra-day rise since the euro's inception in 1999.

[Nov 2, 2008] World - Inflation punctures deflation fears By Krishna Guha

November 2 2008 | FT.com

The D-word is back. Five years after the last deflation scare, economists are again debating whether the US and other industrialised nations could see sustained declines in consumer prices.

Some go as far as to predict that much of the industrialised world might soon resemble Japan in the 1990s, with interest rates at zero, falling prices and no economic growth.

EDITOR'S CHOICE

"A deep and prolonged recession could raise the spectre of deflation of the sort that long plagued the Japanese economy," says Desmond Lachman, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute.

Erkki Likkanen, a member of the governing council of the European Central Bank, and Janet Yellen, the president of the San Francisco Fed, have both alluded to the risk of deflation.

Mr Likkanen said there were "historic examples of how financial crisis, when not handled properly, has led in a couple of years to a deflationary cycle".

That this discussion is occurring at all is striking considering how, until recently, most people were worried about inflation being too high rather than too low.

It is testimony to the shock inflicted by the intensification of the credit crisis and massive loss of housing and stock market wealth.

"I am worried about the deflation risk," says Stephen King, chief economist at HSBC.

Nonetheless, while deflation is a potential threat, most economists think it is premature to be worrying about actual sustained declines in domestic prices.

This remains unlikely because positive inflation is embedded in the US and Europe and the policy response to the crisis is now vigorous.

"To go so quickly from having concerns about inflation to thinking there is a massive deflation problem is jumping the gun a bit," says Jim O'Neil, chief economist at Goldman Sachs.

Indeed, some worry that efforts to avoid deflation will end up fuelling inflation.

Falling commodity prices mean many economies will at some point experience negative year-on-year inflation. But this is nothing to worry about.

Richard Berner, co-head of economics at Morgan Stanley, says it would just be "payback" for the ­previous oil-driven surge in inflation.

The danger is deflation defined as a sustained negative rate of underlying domestic price increases.

Mark Gertler, a professor at New York university, says such deflation makes it impossible to run negative real interest rates to boost a sickly economy, raising the risk of prolonged stagnation.

It can also create a "debt-deflation trap" in which the real value of debt rises, making it harder for indebted households and companies to pay down their liabilities.

Monetarist analysis suggests there is cause to worry. The collapse in banks' willingness to lend and the increase in hoarding of cash might overwhelm central banks efforts to pump out liquidity – putting downward pressure on prices.

However, most experts now rely on a framework that says future inflation is the product of current inflation, inflation expectations, shocks and the "output gap" (the gap between supply and demand). These models suggest the risk of deflation in the US, UK and eurozone is low, while Japan remains a special case.

Inflation is above target in every large economy bar Japan. Consumers in these economies expect inflation of at least 2 per cent.

The market expects long-term inflation of roughly 2.25 per cent in the eurozone, 3 per cent in the UK and 1.7 per cent in the US – though the rate for the US has fallen since September.

"If inflation expectations were to decline sharply that would greatly increase the risk of deflation," says Frederic Mishkin, a professor at Columbia University.

"But expectations were stable on the way up – when inflation was rising – and there is every reason to believe they will be stable on the way down."

Given a weak relationship between spare capacity and inflation, unemployment would have to rise very high – to perhaps 9 per cent or 10 per cent in the US – and stay there for some time to generate deflation.

Left alone, the credit crunch could do this, particularly in the US and UK, which have housing busts, indebted consumers and flexible prices.

But the authorities are moving aggressively to mitigate its impact with rate cuts, bank recapitalisations and fiscal stimulus.

Olivier Blanchard, chief economist at the International Monetary Fund, says its analysis suggests there is a less than 5 per cent chance that the US will experience deflation.

Still, there is a larger risk that inflation could fall to 1 per cent or less in some economies within two years.

This could itself create problems, since central banks would lose the ability to run negative interest rates to fuel recovery or ward off a fresh shock.

But if credit markets are as dysfunctional a year from now as they are today, and inflation a lot lower, deflation would cease being a theoretical danger and would become a real threat.

[Nov 02, 2008] The Mess That Greenspan Made Deflation worries from coast to coast

Deflation worries from coast to coast

They are awfully worried about deflation these days - from coast to coast. Both the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times have run stories in recent days warning about the danger of falling prices:

Ominously, the world's most popular doomsayer, Nouriel Roubini, is quoted in both.

It's as if the whole world is about to fall into some sort of a deflation vortex where we will all be transported back into a black-and-white 1930s breadline if prices fall.

Maybe we will. From the left coast, Tom Petruno writes:
Investors are constantly reminded to think about inflation when making decisions about their money.

Now there's a new wrinkle: the possibility of deflation. We've already had severe deflation -- falling prices -- in housing, stocks and commodities this year. The question is whether that could spill into prices of goods and services across the board, as well as into wages, as the economy worsens.
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Declining inflation is good for the economy, and consumers, in the long run. And in some businesses, such as tech, prices are always falling.

But if the CPI were to go negative for an extended period, that would signal that a potentially dangerous deflation had kicked in. It would suggest that demand was so weak that companies were slashing prices to a level that would gut their earnings, in turn fueling massive layoffs and wage cuts.

Could it happen?

Tom Higgins, chief economist at investment firm Payden & Rygel in L.A., isn't predicting a drop in the CPI in 2009. But he believes the risk of outright deflation is higher today than it was in 2002-03, the last time there was serious talk about a broad-based decline in prices taking hold.

Because the double whammy of falling home values and plummeting stock prices over the last year has sharply eroded many people's net worth, "I'd be much more worried about deflation today than in 2003," Higgins said.
It never ceases to amaze me how so many writers and economists place so much emphasis on the government's dubious consumer price index, extrapolating from that severely flawed representation of prices to predict all sorts of possible futures.

As noted here many times before, if you put home prices back in the inflation measure instead of the nefarious "owners' equivalent rent", you could argue that we've had deflation even with soaring energy prices for the better part of the last year.

Substituting a severely flawed and much maligned proxy for the biggest single component of the consumer price index will surely come to be recognized as one of the worst transgressions by economists in the post-war era.

It reduces talk of CPI "deflation" to something that is almost nonsensical, but the talk continues nonetheless.

In the New York Times, Peter Goodman notes:

As dozens of countries slip deeper into financial distress, a new threat may be gathering force within the American economy - the prospect that goods will pile up waiting for buyers and prices will fall, suffocating fresh investment and worsening joblessness for months or even years.

The word for this is deflation, or declining prices, a term that gives economists chills.

Deflation accompanied the Depression of the 1930s. Persistently falling prices also were at the heart of Japan's so-called lost decade after the catastrophic collapse of its real estate bubble at the end of the 1980s - a period in which some experts now find parallels to the American predicament.
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Through much of the 1990s, prices for property and many goods kept falling in Japan. As layoffs increased and purchasing power declined, prices fell lower still, in a downward spiral of diminishing fortunes. Some fear the American economy could be sinking toward a similar fate, if a recession is deep and prolonged, as consumers lose spending power just as much of Europe, Asia and Latin America succumb to a slowdown.

"That's a meaningful risk at this point," said Nouriel Roubini, an economist at New York University's Stern School of Business, who forecast the financial crisis well in advance and has been warning of deflation for months. "We could get into a vicious circle of deepening malaise."

Most economists - Mr. Roubini and Mr. Barbera included - say American policy makers have tools to avert the sort of deflationary black hole that captured Japan. Deflation fears last broke out in the United States in 2003, but the Federal Reserve defeated the menace with low interest rates that kept the economy growing. This time, the Fed is again being aggressive, dropping its target rate to 1 percent this week. And the government's various bailout plans have also pumped money into the economy.

"If you print enough money, you can create inflation," said Kenneth S. Rogoff, a former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund and now a professor at Harvard.
Dr. Rogoff's thesis is now being put to the test. They say that "persistently falling prices" were at the heart of the worst economic contractions of the last century, but is that really true?

Isn't it interesting to note that all prior bouts of feared or realized deflation came after the bursting of massive asset bubbles - the U.S. in the 1930s, Japan in the 1990s, the U.S. again in 2003, and the entire world today?

Deflation is not to be feared - bursting asset bubbles are.

This week's cartoon from The Economist:

5 comments:

little larry sellers said...
I really don't understand these deflation concerns at all unless they are some sort of propaganda attempt to make people feel safe with cash. We've managed to create trillions of dollars out of thin air, everybody is getting bailed out with massive cash injections and we have a Federal Reserve and government that think the printing press is the answer to every problem. I've heard recent quotes of the entire credit and housing crunch costing something in the neighborhood of 55 trillion USD.

I mean, doesn't that strike anyone as just a little inflationary? The only way out of this debt is to print the money to pay for it, especially since foreigners are finally realizing we haven't the slightest desire or ability to pay back the debt we already owe them.

And once the dollar loses its role as reserve currency... I don't even want to think about that. It will be, as the joke goes, getting Weimar in here.
barnaby33 said...
The trick with beleiving in an inflationary bout is not that you think the govt won't try to print, but that it will FAIL to do so successfully. Printing by itself isn't inflationary, you've got to get that money out into the economy. What the Fed is suffering from right now is a classic liquidity trap. It lowers interst rates but banks hoard cash, hence its primary money transmission mechanism is broken.

The only way to fix that is to restore transparency, also known as trust, to the system. The problem is that has all sorts of unpleasant corollary effects. These are exactly what the Fed has fought a viciously socialist rear guard action to stop.
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barnaby33 said...
Oops I meant deflationary bout, d'oh.
douglas tuttle said...
On the other hand world net worth has dropped $29T during this crisis, so far. The US has "printed" about $2T, Europe about the same and kick in another $2T for everyone else.

That's a total of $6T. Actually a lot of that it is borrowed against reserves abd savings, so wasn't printed per se.

When we compare that to $29T of losses, we need to remember many of those losses were fictional; i.e., taken against unrealized or non-monetized gains.

Regardless, we are destroying it faster than we're printing it, which his why people are talking about deflation. Once this decline has abated, however, what will all that money go looking for?
Anonymous said...
Dr. Hamilton pretty much put this one to rest, in my opinion:

http://www.econbrowser.com/archives/2008/10/deflation_risk.html

October

[Oct 30, 2008] Hyperinflation Here We Come!

Oct 30th, 2008 | Contrarian Profits

Governments are hosing down the markets with bailout money. Central banks, meanwhile, are making sure the cost of borrowing is as close to zero as possible. We smell another bubble in the making…and another inevitable crash. Talk about priming the pump for the next bout of excessive exuberance.

– "The once unthinkable prospect of zero interest rates moved closer to reality yesterday," says The Times. "Interest rates going to zero in our heroic struggle to become Japan," says Henry Blodget on Clusterstock.

– Even Japan is racing to become the next Japan. Today, Japan announced it's joining the global bailout bonanza. Prime minister Taro Aso says he will pump $275 billion of public funds into world's second-largest economy. This will go toward expanded credits for small businesses and a cash payback to every household.

– Uncle Sam is also considering spreading more government-funded love around, too. This from the NYT:

Senior Bush administration officials are discussing a plan that could help up to three million homeowners struggling to pay their mortgages to stay in their homes, three people briefed on the proposal said Wednesday.

The initiative could be the most sweeping government effort directed at mortgage borrowers since the financial crisis began last year. Under the plan, the government would agree to shoulder half of the losses on home loans if mortgage companies agreed to lower borrowers' monthly payments for at least five years, according to the people briefed on the plan who asked not to be named because details were still being negotiated.

– U.S. stock futures pointed to strong gains this morning ahead of data that will likely show that GDP is contracting - further evidence, if any were needed, that Mr. Market doesn't give a hoot about the 'real' economy. Yesterday the Fed handed the market another rate cut. And there's nothing the market loves more than a rate cut…all that easy money to play with.

– "Talk about priming the pump for the next bout of excessive exuberance," says a commenter on Paul Kedrosky's Infectious Greed blog. "If the next big problem isn't hyperinflation, it will mean that we have crashed and burned. I believe there is a movie called No Way Out that basically says it all! Nothing good can come out of where we are at the present moment economically."

– We're already seeing a massive rally in commodities, just one day after the Fed cuts. "Gold, crude oil and corn extended the biggest surge in commodity prices in five decades on speculation interest rate cuts in the U.S. and China may revive demand for raw materials consumption," reports Bloomberg.

The Reuters/Jefferies CRB Index of 19 raw materials jumped 5.9 percent yesterday, the most since at least 1956, when the data begin. The index is still down 24 percent this year. China, the world's largest industrial-metals user, trimmed interest rates for a third time in two months, and the Federal Reserve slashed bank borrowing costs in the U.S., the biggest oil user, to 1 percent.

[Oct 29, 2008] Deflation risk

Econbrowser

There are plenty of things to worry about in the current economic situation. But deflation isn't one of them.

Greg Mankiw had a great article last weekend in which he challenged the view that macroeconomists have learned enough to prevent a repeat of the Great Depression. Greg notes some disturbing similarities between our current difficulties and the problems of the 1930s:

From 1930 to 1933, more than 9,000 banks were shuttered, imposing losses on depositors and shareholders of about $2.5 billion. As a share of the economy, that would be the equivalent of $340 billion today. The banking panics put downward pressure on economic activity in two ways. First, they put fear into the hearts of depositors. Many people concluded that cash in their mattresses was wiser than accounts at local banks. As they withdrew their funds, the banking system's normal lending and money creation went into reverse. The money supply collapsed, resulting in a 24 percent drop in the consumer price index from 1929 to 1933. This deflation pushed up the real burden of households' debts....

Deflation across the economy is not a problem (yet), but deflation in the housing market is the source of many of our present difficulties. With so many homeowners owing more on their mortgages than their houses are worth, default is an unfortunate but often rational choice. Widespread foreclosures, however, only perpetuate the downward spiral of housing prices, further defaults and additional losses at financial institutions.

Greg is certainly correct that house price declines have a potential to cause similar problems today as we saw in the 1930s. But I believe it is more than an academic distinction whether we are talking about a relative price change (house prices go down but the dollar price of most other items goes up) or a true deflation (the dollar price of almost everything you buy goes down). The reason is that the latter problem is absolutely one that the Federal Reserve could fix, whereas the former problem may not be.

In a general deflation, the purchasing power of a dollar bill goes higher and higher, and as Greg notes, this can produce big economic problems, as it did for the U.S. in the 1930s or Japan in the 1990s. But it is absolutely a problem that the Federal Reserve can fix. If you increase the quantity of dollar bills fast enough, you're sure to create inflation, not deflation. And the Federal Reserve has unlimited power to increase the quantity of dollar bills.

Some of my colleagues still talk of the possibility of a liquidity trap, in which the central bank supposedly has no power even to cause inflation. Their theory is that interest rates fall so low that when the Fed buys more T-bills, it has no effect on interest rates, and the cash the Fed creates with those T-bill purchases just sits idle in banks.

To which I say, pshaw! If the U.S. were ever to arrive at such a situation, here's what I'd recommend. First, have the Federal Reserve buy up the entire outstanding debt of the U.S. Treasury, which it can do easily enough by just creating new dollars to pay for the Treasury securities. No need to worry about those burdens on future taxpayers now! Then buy up all the commercial paper anybody cares to issue. Bye-bye credit crunch! In fact, you might as well buy up all the equities on the Tokyo Stock Exchange. Fix that nasty trade deficit while we're at it! Print an arbitrarily large quantity of money with which you're allowed to buy whatever you like at fixed nominal prices, and the sky's the limit on what you might set out to do.

Of course, the reason I don't advocate such policies is that they would cause a wee bit of inflation. It's ridiculous to think that people would continue to sell these claims against real assets at a fixed exchange rate against dollar bills when we're flooding the market with a tsunami of newly created dollars. But if inflation is what you want, put me in charge of the Federal Reserve and believe me, I can give you some inflation.

Notwithstanding, I think Greg is raising a very valid point. Allowing the overall deflation in the U.S. in the 1930s and Japan in the 1990s was one quite fixable policy error. But perhaps modern macroeconomists have deluded ourselves into thinking that if this policy error had not been made, the whole episodes could have been avoided. How bad would the Great Depression have been if the price level had not fallen? Not as bad as it was, I'm convinced, but maybe still pretty bad.

I still like Brad DeLong's perspective on all this:

Is 2008 Our 1929? No. It is not. The most important reason it is not is that Bernanke and Paulson are both focused like laser beams on not making the same mistakes as were made in 1929....

They want to make their own, original, mistakes..

Comments

Basically, Professor, what should the Fed do and when should it do it?

Posted by: David Pearson at October 29, 2008 08:21 AM

Whose Afraid Of Deflation?
In my last post, William Gross said this:

"They must also take another bold step: outright purchases of commercial paper. They should also cut interest rates to 1%, because we are experiencing asset deflation, and the threat of headline inflation is long past."

Via Greg Mankiw, who wasn't convinced, came the following:

"In a previous post, I expressed surprise that yields on inflation-indexed Treasury notes are rising. Readers have emailed me a variety of hypotheses, the most common of which is deflation. As one smart economist put it:

Here's one possible answer -- the credit crunch has precipitated a massive expansion of money demand -- a scramble for cash. Despite its best efforts, the Fed has not matched this with a sufficient expansion of money supply. As simple IS-LM would predict, this surge in money demand has raised real interest rates (indicating that monetary policy is perhaps still too tight).

Rising real rates on inflation-indexed bonds and falling rates on nominal bonds also tell us that markets expect this surge in money demand to result in near-zero inflation or even deflation in the years ahead. It's starting to look more and more like 1990s Japan, though hopefully for not as long."

From Michael A. Fletcher's story today in the Washington Post:

"The confluence of trends has some economists worried that the country could be headed for a debilitating cycle of deflation: a period in which weak consumer demand, falling prices and tight credit ignite a downward spiral of still weaker demand and still lower prices. Under this scenario, as some businesses are strangled, joblessness increases, feeding the cycle.

"It was just a few months ago that everyone was obsessed with inflation. Now it's deflation," said Bill Gross, co-chief investment officer at Pimco, an investment management company. "I think it's a possibility."

And:

"Some economists note that a period of price adjustments does not necessarily signal the start of a deflationary spiral.

"Deflation is not the problem we should be worrying about," said Adam Lerrick, an economist at Carnegie Mellon University. "A drop in the level of prices for some goods must be distinguished from a continuous fall of prices. Oil is down to $90 from $140, but does anyone expect it will be $55 a year from now and $35 in 2010?"

Analysts said that a few months of price declines should not be a problem for the economy.

But if prices continue to fall across the board for a prolonged period, the declines will weigh heavily on businesses and consumers, particularly those juggling a lot of debt, which must be paid back even as money is harder to come by.

"For a few quarters, I say bring it on, but not for too much longer," Gross said of deflation. "Capitalism depends on mild inflation. Unless we get it, the dynamics of capitalism sort of move in reverse."
But then, there's this:

"In the United States, policymakers have been much quicker to respond to deflationary threats. Five years ago, as inflation approached 1 percent, spawning deflation concerns, Alan Greenspan, then the Federal Reserve chairman, cut the Fed's benchmark lending rate to 1 percent and the threat was never realized. It is an outcome that gives assurance to some economists.

"As long as governments print money and run deficits, you cannot have deflation," Lerrick said."

So, in the end, doesn't that mean inflation is the only real problem?

[Oct 24, 2008] INFLATION VS. DEFLATION... NOPE - STAGFLATION by Krassimir Petrov, PhD

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Once again the Fed, the mainstream media, and Bubblevision continue to relentlessly propagate the myth that the slowing U.S. and global economy will ease inflationary pressures. In addition, the current Credit Crisis and the ongoing collapse in commodity prices have encouraged deflationists to reiterate their beliefs that deflation is inevitable. These views represent two different approaches of the same myth. Investors should not fall for it.

Given the recent fall in prices in a broad range of commodities, we are assured that inflation is no longer a problem, indeed that the real threat is deflation; inflation is supposedly transitory and inflationary expectations are "well anchored". We are led to believe that "recessions cure inflations."

Nothing can be further from the truth. On the contrary, given the current macroeconomic environment, the massive government stimulus of hundreds of billions of dollars in rebate checks and a series of bailouts will most certainly translate in much higher inflation and little or no economic growth. One must prepare for the reality that the government's "cure", as Peter Schiff has repeated so often, will be worse than the disease.

In coming years, investors must expect a lot more inflation and adjust their portfolios accordingly – their survival depends on it. Our job here is to outline the importance of the inflation-deflation debate, interpret its meaning, provide some historical evidence, and present the arguments for future economic development with its investment implications.

August

[Aug 15, 2008] Core inflation

The Bureau of Labor Statistics reported yesterday that its primary consumer price index CPI-U rose 5.6% over the last year. That's the highest inflation rate in 17 years, the newspapers all call to our attention. Just how concerned should we be about these numbers?

Of that 5.6% year-over-year price increase, 1.9% came within the last two months alone. And there's no question that the big story driving that 2-month increase has been energy prices. NewJerseyGasPrices.com reports that the average retail price of gasoline sold in the United States rose from about $3.78/gallon in the middle of May to $4.12 in mid July, a 9% increase. That's in line with the 10.6% 2-month increase that BLS reported in their seasonally adjusted consumer energy price index between May and July. Energy prices have a weight near 10% in the total CPI. That means that if energy prices had held constant between May and July but all other price increases had been the same, the year-over-year CPI number would have been more like 4-1/2% rather than 5-1/2%.

But does it make any sense to ask, What if energy prices hadn't gone up between May and July? There are certainly good reasons why the Fed should not be taking as much comfort in "core inflation" as it has in recent years. But in this case, there is a clear need to net out the May-to-July energy price increase-- it's already been reversed. The US national average gas price is back to $3.78/gallon, right where it was in mid-May. Thus, even without any further drop in the price of gasoline-- and personally, I do expect further drops-- the 4-1/2% number is a better summary of where we stand right at the moment than 5-1/2%.

So no, I don't think that yesterday's CPI numbers will cause the Fed to panic. Because yesterday's news is already way of out of date.


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What do you think of the idea that "core" should be a moving average, and not a subtraction of "special" items?

Posted by: odograph at August 15, 2008 07:53 AM

Interesting analysis regarding core inflation and the volatility of energy.

The main problems I see with it are that the Fed (and Bernanke in particular) claims to be concerned with "inflation expectations", whatever those are. Clearly, volatility in energy prices affect these expectations, which are really just inflation incarnate. That energy moved up and then back down seems sort of moot in this regard. We all experienced the spike in gas prices, which in turn means we all experienced higher inflation. If anything, the magical "inflation expectations" are certainly worse today than they were prior to the volatility in energy prices we experienced in recent months.

Posted by: Justin at August 15, 2008 08:15 AM

What is there in the water that professional economists drink that is causing them to keep trying to explain inflation away? It isn't enough that the CPI has been mucked up as a measure with all the hedonic/owener's equivalent manipulation? Inflation x-inflation.

The Fed & central banks around the globe continuously create fresh money/credit at a faster pace than their economies can create GDP on which to spend it. It's called inflating. Why do economists strive to obscure this most important of truths?

Burgeoning inflation in the teeth of recession is remarkable, but let's just ignore it.

Posted by: algernon at August 15, 2008 09:03 AM

Wonder what effect the seasonal adjustment played in the 5-1/2 inflation jump. Earlier months the adjustment dampened the increase and was due to go the other way in June or July.

Posted by: wogie at August 15, 2008 10:28 AM

Algernon: How is JDH explaining inflation away? It's a measurement issue being raised. Is your suspicion is that he wouldn't bring up this point if it went the other way? Unless that is what he'd do, I don't see how the intent here is to "explain away" anything.

Consider this important truth: if the money supply was constant and GDP growth was zero, and everyone increased the prices of their goods, we'd have inflation.

Justin makes a good point, JDH: the rise and fall of gasoline prices may not have symmetric effects on inflation expectations (you appreciate economic asymmetry, right?). Certainly there were myriad production and labor decisions made while gasoline prices were taking off -- these might exert inflationary pressure going forward. And I don't think the relapse in gas prices will do the same thing in the opposite direction.

Posted by: sjp at August 15, 2008 10:32 AM

Apparently the 12-month core inflation rate was 2.5%.

Posted by: Hal at August 15, 2008 11:53 AM

'Consider this important truth: if the money supply was constant and GDP growth was zero, and everyone increased the prices of their goods, we'd have inflation.' SJP are you serious?

Posted by: algernon at August 15, 2008 12:17 PM

sjp wrote:

Consider this important truth: if the money supply was constant and GDP growth was zero, and everyone increased the prices of their goods, we'd have inflation.

sjp,

Don't disengage your logic. If the money supply remains constant but everyone increased their prices how could we have inflation?

Assuming spending preferences do not change we would have to sell less of everything. There would be no more money to purchase goods at the higher prices.

At first retail inventories would increase and merchants would have to decrease orders. Manufacturing inventories would build and manufacturing would have to decrease. Depending on the severity of the decline unemployment might increase. Generally this would bring on a recession.

You do raise an interesting scenario though because this is almost exactly what happened to precipitate the Great Depression right after the market crash in 1929. The crash only lasted 11 days, but Hoover over reacted and called the business leaders into his office as it was still going on to ask them not to lower wages and prices. The result was that inventories grew as production slowed and people lost their jobs. Hoover continued his foolishness of keeping wages and prices higher than the market would bear, attempting to offset the consequences with government welfare, but the economic decline drove unemployment higher than 20%.

Posted by: Anonymous at August 15, 2008 12:21 PM

Sure, Professor, given the drops in the price of gasoline over the last weeks, yesterday's price increase news is out of date.

But, we are from from out of the woods. Just wait until the Japanese, Chinese, and sheikhs tire of seeing their Treasury holdings decrease in value. When they rush for the exits -- next year seems plausible, as the U.S. economic fundamentals will be terrible through 2012, given the off-the-charts household debt to GDP ratio, and such prognosis will become widely apparent next year -- and dump those Treasuries, we'll see the pent-up effects of our inflationary policies since '81.

Enjoy the respite, and save what you can, now.

Posted by: jg at August 15, 2008 12:28 PM

The real point is not about whether the correct inflation is 4 1/2% vs 5 1/2%.

In April, when seasonal adjustments got the numbers disconnected from reality, all one could hear was inflation is low.

When eventually, the data catches up, it's explained away as old data.

So there seems to be this great obfuscation by methodology - when methodology produces low inflation, the result is rationalized, and when methodology produces high inflation, the result does not matter.

So there is never any inflation.

That trick works, until it wont. Credibility will be lost, if not already.

Posted by: baxter at August 15, 2008 01:05 PM

This is almost as good as the ole: "it's not really inflation because employees don't have bargaining power." I wonder if that originated with the Bank Of Zimbabwe.

Why even bother reporting data? Simply have the BLS regularly declare deflation or low or no inflation - whichever suits them. You know, "heckuva job, Benny."

The power of orthodoxy, even in the 21st century is quite remarkable. Either that or a simple desire for access and/or social acceptance in professional circles.

Posted by: Anon at August 15, 2008 01:34 PM

The BLS publishes many special-purpose indices. The one Jim's re-created here is "all-items, less energy" or SA0LE. No need to do the back-of-the-envelope re-weighting that you did here. We've done it for you.

Go to http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/srgate and enter "CUUR0000SA0LE".

Posted by: BLS Lackey at August 15, 2008 01:58 PM

algernon and Anonymous: I am seriously engaging my logic. Inflation is about the price level moving up.

I am bringing this up because the true mechanics of inflation must be a combination of (among other things) the extension of money/credit that algernon refers to and the raising of prices that I posited. One can't just point the finger at money supply expansion as the root of inflation. It is clearly an important part, but not the complete picture.

Posted by: sjp at August 15, 2008 02:56 PM

There has never been an inflationary period when housing prices declined and gold prices declined. Both are down significantly. Additionally, money velocity is trending down (people are holding cash), and wages are not rising significantly. OK, oil has been up, but, so what?

The word "whining" comes to mind. We are not in an inflationary period. And when its all analyzed with historical perspective, we will find yet more faults in the CPI reporting of our government. Economists of the future - here's another opportunity.

Posted by: Mike Laird at August 15, 2008 04:36 PM

To aver that we are not in an inflationary period strains credibility: The massaged-to-understate CPI of 5.6% was a year-over-year measurement.

Wages not keeping pace does not change the fact of what the consumer has faced. One doubts that wages are much of a factor in the inflations of Zimbabwe or China.

In addition to transportation & food costs, medical costs (which inspite of being 17% of GDP only count 6% in the CPI), property taxes, utilities, natural gas, parking fees, postal costs & gardening supplies are all up noticeably in my particular experience. Mr. Laird, do you not encounter these?

Housing & gold are correcting from huge inflations in their prices (neither of which was captured in the CPI when they occured). Gold will likely move higher, if not in the near future, then later when the US gov't must print its way out of the SS/Medicare promises it can't keep.

Posted by: algernon at August 15, 2008 06:13 PM

We will see a great deal of shifting to Wal Mart, unbranded gasoline, and Corian (from granite) etc. Declining housing (sale) prices should bring rents down. We will see "getting the best deal" glamorized on the new reality TV shows replacing the most glamorous kitchen remodel. Assuming no really beligerent actions in the mid east or the Caucuses, oil prices should continue to decline (on a cyclical basis). So a reasonable bet is that inflation will be declining in the next year.

Posted by: sonia at August 15, 2008 06:35 PM

How shall we define stagflation? I suggest whenever unemployment is above 5% and when inflation is above 5% at the same time.

That's June and July 2008. Houston we have stagflation.

Posted by: One Salient Oversight at August 15, 2008 08:34 PM

Those expecting diminishing inflation, please contemplate CD rates of 3%(on which the holder must pay income tax) when the reported CPI is 5.6%. What person would lend his savings in such a money-losing proposition? Is this the result of a free market or of a central bank lending out money that has never been saved but created out of thin air? MZM & M2 are growing a lot faster than GDP & have been for some time.

The central banks of China, Russia, India, Saudi Arabia, et al are behaving similarly. The global credit bubble, Bernanke's savings glut, will collapse in due course. But it seems to me we aren't there yet & therefore are beset by inflation.

Posted by: algernon at August 15, 2008 08:46 PM

...not only, but also... FED shouldn't panic because:
1. Rent inflation seems under control (It was slower in July than in June)
2. Households & Investors inflation expectations are going down after the commodities prices burst (See: the yield of the Treasury Inflation Protected Securities & the latest results of the Consumer Sentiment Survey released by the University of Michigan: they are consistent with a moderation of the inflation scare).

If past FED speeches are any guide, this excerpt from the 06/09/2008 Bernanke Speech (At the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston) will help shaping the prospects for the near term future:

Here is the link to the website:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/bernanke20080609a.htm

Posted by: OER at August 15, 2008 10:49 PM

sjp wrote:

Inflation is about the price level moving up.

I am bringing this up because the true mechanics of inflation must be a combination of (among other things) the extension of money/credit that algernon refers to and the raising of prices that I posited. One can't just point the finger at money supply expansion as the root of inflation. It is clearly an important part, but not the complete picture.

sjp,

I will pass on your incorrect definition of inflation as price increases to stay on topic.

Can you give me the mechanism where prices can increase with a constant money supply without reducing consumption? If you have an economy of $5 and 5 things how can the price of the each thing move to $1.10 and consumers still consume 5 things with a $5 money supply?

Posted by: DickF at August 16, 2008 02:28 PM

DickF - they'd put it on their visas!
When economists talk about wage demands being muted, they don't seem to understand how much American households have gotten into the habit of taking their future wages out as borrowed money. If I have the ability to pay 1.10 with a credit card, I can overlook that shortfall in my real income. By using behavioral patterns which were true in the 70s but are not true today to connect commodity prices to wages, economists are overlooking a central feature of the economy they have wrought. In fact, dissolving limits on credit has been the only way that the "grand moderation" could be swallowed by the American public at large. If they had to live within their real incomes, the increases in the compensation of the wealthiest group - the CEOS, the hedge funders - would simply be politically impossible. As credit is squeezed and Americans have to live within their real incomes, look for inequality to become a much hotter issue. It is the credit squeeze more than inflation that is going to jumpstart pressure to raise wages.

Posted by: roger at August 16, 2008 04:46 PM

from the Fed Website: "Consumer credit rose at an annual rate of 5 percent in the second quarter. Both revolving and nonrevolving credit increased 5 percent in the quarter. In June, consumer credit rose 6-3/4 percent at an annual rate."

The pace of growth of Consumer Credit in June has been a surprise, a puzzle.

So: where is the Credit Crunch?


http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/g19/Current/

Posted by: Anonymous at August 17, 2008 11:57 AM

DickF: my definition of inflation is a rise in the price level. The only point I'm making is to dispute algernon's point; I took algernon's point to be that inflation comes solely from money supply expansion. I say that's not true.

I believe that the problem subsequently raised with my thought experiment (0 growth, 0 money supply growth, price increases) is that it is non-equilibrium. What Anonymous suggested makes sense. On the other hand, the economy might realize that the price increases weren't warranted and drop the price back down -- this might be the outcome DickF sees for his scenario. I thought a non-equilibrium thought experiment might be worth considering, though, since the jumping off point for this post is that the oil price increases we saw in the summer have been followed by price decreases: we are talking about fluctuations about the equilibrium.

I am most interested in Justin's point, that these oil price fluctuations might inordinately affect consumers' inflation expectations. It makes me wonder if certain high-profile products are weighted highly in consumers' belief formation mechanisms. Have oil price shocks been associated with shocks to consumers' inflation expectations, and is this association stronger than the association with other commodities?

Posted by: sjp at August 17, 2008 02:21 PM

DickF asks "Can you give me the mechanism where prices can increase with a constant money supply without reducing consumption?"

Simple, the rate of circulation of money can increase or decrease. Thus even if the supply of money remains the same prices can change.
And of course, there are many types of virtual money that can step into the gap, taking the place of money, debit accounts, credit accounts, loans of all descriptions etc.

Posted by: bill j at August 18, 2008 03:54 AM

Roger,

Your comment about Visas did make me laugh, but understand that credit works within an economy unless the government facilitates credit expansion with an increase in the money supply so credit in itself does not create inflation.

sjp,

Inflation is a decline in the value of money. It may lead to a rise in the price level, but a rise in the price level is not inflation. This is a huge misconception in economic circles that leads to serious misunderstandings.

If you introduce other elements into your thought experiment such as consumption preferences then yes you can create a scenario where such price increase might be accomodated, but the thought process must be deeper than a fixed money supply with rising prices. That simply is not possible without external input meaning consumption preferences, saving preferences, etc.

This is important to understand because without the complicity of the monetary authorities an economy cannot experience inflation. Understand that a change in consumption preferences is not inflationary.

bill j,

A change in circulation of money does not exist in a vacuum. There must be other changes such as consumption preferences for this to happen. Dig deeper.

[Jul 27, 2008] Market.view Inflation or deflation The Economist

The markets have become incredibly volatile as investors vacillate between these outcomes

The first two weeks of July were dark indeed, as investors feared that high oil prices were both heralding recession and preventing central banks from taking action by cutting interest rates. That environment was pretty bleak for risky assets, with equities falling and credit spreads rising. The repeated falls in the share prices of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac added to the sense of crisis.

Two things then changed the tone. The first was a fall in the oil price from its $147-a-barrel peak. The second was the rescue of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and some better-than-expected results from the banking sector. The market's economic and financial worries were eased at the same time; equities rallied sharply (particularly bank stocks) and credit spreads narrowed again. The ten-year Treasury bond yield rose in a week from 3.83% to 4.15%.

But on July 24th, the markets suffered a relapse. A set of negative economic data in Europe and America, together with fears about the health of Washington Mutual, sent the Dow Jones Industrial Average down 283 points and pushed the ten-year Treasury bond yield back down to 4.02%.

All this volatility has led to some contradictory-looking moves. Normally gold is seen as a hedge against inflation. You can thus count on the bullion price to rise as Treasury bond yields are increasing. But as the chart shows, this has not been happening since mid-July. Gold has been moving hand-in-glove with oil (as part of the commodity asset class) and in the opposite direction of the dollar (since it is seen as an alternative currency).

This market chaos is understandable; the trade-offs are complex. The fall in the oil price will eventually bring the headline inflation-rate down. That sounds like good news for both equities and government bonds.

But what if the decline in the oil price is the result of a global recession? That would hardly be positive for stock markets. And what if a falling headline inflation rate gives the green light for the central banks to cut interest rates? Coupled with the willingness of the authorities to rescue the banking system, that would suggest a long-term inflationary bias in the economy and thus be bad news for Treasury bonds.

"Investors should not be distracted or trapped into dismantling portfolio inflation defences by either the current growth slowdown or by the vagaries of the spot oil price,"

says Tim Bond, head of global asset allocation at Barclays Capital, in his latest note.

Despite Mr Bond, investors show every sign of being distracted by the details of the current slowdown. The latest euro-zone purchasing managers' survey, for example, appeared to point to a second-quarter fall in GDP. The highly erratic British retail sales numbers for June wiped out the strong gain recorded in May. American initial jobless claims jumped to 406,000 in the latest week, while existing home sales dropped to their lowest level in a decade. As Alan Ruskin of the Royal bank of Scotland remarked, this was a contest among the G7 nations to see who could post the worst numbers.

What makes the situation so obscure is the leads and lags in the economic data. The global economy is still absorbing the impact of the rise in oil above $100 a barrel, let alone its subsequent gains. And the Federal Reserve's long series of rate cuts are still working their way through the system. Then there is the American tax rebate, still sitting in many consumers' bank accounts.

That suggests both the inflationists and the deflationists are going to have plenty of ammunition over the next few months. In turn, that will make it hard for investors to make a decisive choice, and that means the volatility in financial markets will continue over the next few months.

Long term, the inflationists look to have a better case. The world has paper money and the central bank that runs its reserve currency (the dollar) has repeatedly erred on the side of loose monetary policy, for economic and financial reasons. Emerging markets, nowadays the drivers of global growth, have loose monetary policies in aggregate. Treasury bonds may occasionally benefit from flights to safety over the next few months, particularly as the banking sector continues to struggle. But it is hard to believe that yields of 4% or so will look good value in five years' time.

lev. d. wrote:

August 01, 2008 08:49

all good posts below guys. the american led manufactured boom in the world economy was a result of the economic impasse which threatened at every turn. loosening the money supply and turning a blind eye to irresponsible lending (greenspan-bernanke)was the impetus for growth in the last 20 years. by priming the pump, inflation was always going to be the outcome.because of the massive over-production of commodities in the world economy, the central bankers have no choice than to keep the money flowing, to keep the people spending-thanks dode bush-(i"m scottish!), who would have believed that capitalism would have been so fatally injured, it had to return some of the "surplus value" stolen, back to the masses to keep them spending!!! wouldn"t it be better if the workers recieved the entire result of their labour-power to spend???

after the inflationary crisis and crash, as a direct result of the above mentioned overproduction, prices will come down expedentially as the capitalists desperately try to off-load their wares to a general populace who are now paupers. the china syndrome-which has been key to the cheap-price deflationary binge, which in reality has held inflation in check in the west- will become the motor force of the international socialist revolution. millions of chinese workers will be thrown on the scrap-heap as factories close in their droves. these workers-with no social security- will reproduce the events of russia in october 1917, BUT ON A FAR HIGHER SCALE.history is repeating and the tendency will be from the lower to the higher.

Tir Tairngire wrote:

July 28, 2008 20:03

AS "Help is on the way" had no means of commenting, I will do it here. It relates to this story.

Adjectives and adverbs fail me. The filth that is the new "housing bill" saving Fannie Mae and friends (many of them financial friends of this venal administration)is an abomination. It panders to the whiners of America, the same people who lie on loan applications and subsequently say they "didn't understand" that they'd actually have to pay back the borrowed funds.

The people of the United States are focused on the entitlement concept. A concept that underscores the fact that none need fulfill their contractual obligations if they find them difficult. A concept that gives those who borrow huge funds at any cost, backed up with any story of woe, the right to recluse themselves from "doing the right thing".

A person who saves their money, pays their bills on time, and generally lives by the standards of a America that apparently no longer is, is a fool.

I'm a fool.

What this nation, the USA, needs right now IS a recession. Up the interest rates, put value into the dollar, let the whiners lie and steal without the benefit of Federal largess. Perhaps then we can arrest them. While it may cost us to pay the higher interest on our national debt, at least it will go to those who actually gave up value for their lent money.

Tir Tairngire

Adogsbody wrote:

July 28, 2008 09:50

Central bankers fear deflation much more than inflation. Deflation eats away at the value of everything. No one wins. Indeed the winners, in this scenario, will be the ones who lose the least! I expect the central bankers will turn on the paper printing presses and go to great lengths to stave off deflation. This will of course cause significant inflation (possibly hyperinflation) followed by a deflationary bust.

bickelj wrote:

July 27, 2008 15:55

Even if the Fed starts raising rates now, the inflationary damage has already been done over the last 20 years. It will come out of the closet eventually.

Good article, but I disagree with this statement: "Then there is the American tax rebate, still sitting in many consumers' bank accounts." I don't know anyone whose tax rebate is sitting in a bank account. It has paid for the difference in the gas and food prices.

[Jan 20, 2008] Inflation or Deflation?

It seems clear that, as with the credit-fuelled boom that preceded it, the bust has taken on a life of its own.

Mere mortal investors and their professional colleagues are (at least if they are honest and have a modicum of sense) a bit confounded as to what to do at this juncture. By all measures, inflationary pressures are gaining strength, and yet recessions lower aggregate demand and with it, price pressures. Ah, but what about the Chinese? Even if things get bad here, they aren't fully in lock-step with the US economy and have plenty of firepower. And what happens when Helicopter Ben throws cash at the problem? Won't lots of money creation debase the currency and by definition produce inflation?

It's very easy to get a headache from this sort of thinking.

Michael Panzner offers a useful post, "The Wrong 'Flation" on this topic, arguing for the deflationary outlook. The most powerful evidence for this view comes from the fact that the monetary authorities have lost control of credit generation (broader money, the old M3) as observers ranging from market mavens like Michael Shedlock to Serious Economists like Mohamed El-Erian have pointed out. The credit crisis means credit contraction, a process the Fed will likely be unable to staunch. That in turns points to deflation.

However, "unlikely" does not necessarily mean "unable". Bernanke is a well known expert on the Great Depression, and well schooled in the dangers of letting contractionary processes feed on themselves. So he and his colleagues will be doing everything in their power from keeping a vicious circle from setting in. The Term Auction Facility was a creative measure that managed to stave off a crisis in the money markets. Perhaps he will be able to use a combination of novel measures, liquidity injections, and smoke and mirrors to keep confidence at a reasonable level (confidence and willingness to extend credit are what really is at risk here).

The problem, ultimately, is that credit extension (witness no-doc loans, mezzanine CDOs, speculative real estate lending, and "cov lite" LBO deals) went well beyond sustainable or sensible levels. There will need to be a reduction in credit, which will inevitably lead to a contraction. But what shape will that take? How far down is down? While I think a financial meltdown is a real possibility, I guesstimate the odds at 30%. That is dangerously high by any standards, but also says the greater likelihood is that a crisis will be averted.

While I am still generally pessimistic about the near-term prospects, the powers that be may be able to forestall a crisis (and by that I mean a credit crunch a la 1990-1991, not a real calamity) and instead engineer a fairly ugly recession (I'd prefer a short and very nasty one, but given the housing crisis, we are more likely to get a prolonged sluggish period). Not pretty, particularly for middle and lower middle income consumers, who will take the brunt of it, but the alternative (most likely a Japan-style deflation due to refusal to realize losses on inflated asset values) would be even worse.

From Panzner:

Those of us in the very small group that has correctly anticipated that past excesses would eventually come home to roost generally fall into two camps: the deflationists, who believe that another Great Depression is on the cards -- at least initially -- and the inflationists, who argue that hyperinflation -- where prices spiral rapidly higher -- is the most likely near-term outcome.

While there are more than a few reasons for the contrasting perspectives, in my view it largely comes down to a difference of opinion about how the U.S. reached the "tipping point" to begin with. That is, was it "printing presses" that fueled the housing and other bubbles, the malinvestment and imbalances, and the widespread belief in "something for nothing," or was it excessive credit creation?

If the answer is the former, then the dollars that were and continue to be created remain in circulation, stoking inflationary expectations and exerting a relentless upward push on prices. As economists put it, there is too much money chasing too few goods.

If the answer is the latter -- which is what I believe has been and is the case -- then logic and history suggest that when the jig is finally up, it leads to relentless, liquidation-driven downward pressure on asset and other prices. As opposed to paper currency (or even digitally-created "money" that did not come about as a result of central bank buying and selling of government and other securities), much of the credit-money that was created out of thin air ends up "disappearing" (e.g., through default), diminishing overall demand.

In "Worried about Inflation? Just Wait," Reuters columnist James Saft lends further weight to the deflationist perspective and puts paid to growing worries over rising commodity and consumer prices.

Never mind inflation, the powerful and long-lasting effects of the credit crisis will rein it in soon enough.

With oil, gold and other commodities at very high levels and U.S. producer prices up 6.3 percent last year -- the most since 1981 -- fears have risen that an aggressive round of rate cuts by the Federal Reserve will embed inflation.

Consumer price inflation for December was up 0.3 percent and has risen 4.1 percent since a year earlier.

But these are likely to prove lagging indicators, even if demand from emerging markets remains strong for raw materials.

If credit is being strictly rationed and asset prices falling -- as they are in housing and in stocks -- investment, consumption and just about anything else that can be put off will be put off.

"The strong probability is that we will get at least disinflation in 2008," said George Magnus, senior economic advisor to UBS.

"I'm not aware of any banking crisis in history, almost without exception, that was not accompanied by falling inflation.

"When balance sheets are shrinking and credit restriction is being applied, the whole effect is to cause people either to not be able to make spending decisions or to defer them. It puts a downer on aggregate demand," Magnus said.

A round of poor data, notably unexpectedly weak retail sales, prompted rumors of a highly unusual inter-meeting rate cut by the Federal Reserve, whose next scheduled meeting is January 29-30.

The Fed declined to comment. Traders were roughly evenly split on Wednesday in betting on a 50 basis point or a 75 basis point cut this month in the Fed benchmark, currently 4.25 percent.

But even aggressive cuts in interest rates will have a limited and painfully slow impact on demand under these circumstances, according to Magnus. He contrasts the current crisis, which is fundamentally about the solvency of borrowers and the banks that lent to them, with other crises, such as 9/11 or the stock market crash of 1987.

"When solvency is involved and asset prices are declining, monetary policy can help but can't solve the problem."

Yen carry trade and credit cards next?

Ominously for the economy, the Baltic Dry Index BADI of shipping capacity suffered its biggest one day drop since records began on Wednesday, down 5.74 percent and following similar heavy falls on Friday and Tuesday. The index is down almost 20 percent since January 1.

Because trade travels on ships, the Baltic index is often a good indicator of forward demand, both for natural resources and finished goods. Interestingly, the Baltic index continued to climb as the credit crisis unfolded through the summer, supported by strong economic growth in emerging markets.

Tim Lee of pi Economics in Greenwich, Connecticut, thinks prices of many assets and commodities will fall strongly in what he calls an "incipient deflation".

"Ignore gold, ignore oil: they are lagging indicators of the excessively loose central bank policies we had in the past," Lee said.

"The leading edge that is really telling us what is going on is the government bond market and property prices."

Yields on 10-year U.S. treasuries have fallen as low at 3.69 percent, down almost a half a percent since late December.

The credit crunch is breeding new areas of concern, such as credit cards and commercial loans. Another round of losses in a new area would further dampen credit.

Citibank has more than doubled its loan loss reserve ratio on U.S. consumer debt since the end of the second quarter, with the sharpest move in the past three months.

Then there is the risk that cuts in U.S. interest rates will unravel what is perhaps the world's biggest leveraged bet, the use of carry trades, according to Lee of pi Economics.

Estimated at as much as $1 trillion, carry trades involve borrowing cheaply in yen or other currencies such as Swiss franc that have low interest rates in order to invest in higher yielding currencies, or indeed in anything else the borrower hopes will go up.

Both the yen and the Swiss franc have rallied sharply against the dollar in recent days driven by expectations of much lower rates in the U.S.

If funding currencies like the yen and franc continue to rise, borrowers could sustain big losses. For example, many Hungarians have taken out mortgages in Swiss francs and many Korean corporations have funded in yen. Strong moves upward in the currency they borrowed may leave them unable to carry the debt.

"As the carry trade unwinds, liquidations and asset sales will push prices (down) further," Lee said.

It seems clear that, as with the credit-fuelled boom that preceded it, the bust has taken on a life of its own.

Critique CPi as a measure of inflation

The Big Picture Does the Bond Market Have it All Wrong

Instead, the Smart Money is looking to the Forex markets, where the penultimate inflation gauge -- the value of the US dollar -- gets measured.

"Since the value of the dollar is the single biggest determinate of prices, it is amazing that Wall Street can celebrate a victory over inflation based solely on one month's data despite the poor monthly performance of the dollar itself.. If the dollar continues to lose value, it's only a matter of time before sellers demand more of them in exchange for their wares. If they fail to raise their prices, the net effect is that they suffer a price reduction. So while Wall Street looks to the bond market as evidence that inflation is well contained, the smart money looks at the forex markets to realize just how much worse inflation is likely to get. Remember, bond yields do not reflect what future inflation actually will be, only what bond investor think it will be. Action in the currency markets will reveal just how wrong these bets are likely to be. (emphasis added)

[Aug 28, 2006] Global Trends May Hinder Effort to Curb U.S. Inflation - New York Times by Edmund L. Andrews

Aug. 27 | NYT

As the Federal Reserve fiercely debates how to reduce inflation within the United States, economists are warning that trends outside the country may soon make the Fed's job much harder.

In recent years, global integration has made things easier for the Fed in two ways. An explosion in low-cost exports from China and other countries helped keep prices of many products low even as Americans spent heavily and loaded up on debt.

At the same time, China and other relatively poor nations reversed the normal patterns of global investment by becoming net lenders to the United States and Europe. Analysts estimate that this "uphill'' flow of money from poor nations to rich ones may have reduced long-term interest rates in the United States by 1.5 percentage points in recent years - a big difference when home mortgage rates are about 6 percent.

But as Fed officials held their annual retreat this weekend here in the Grand Tetons, a growing number of economists warned that those benign international trends could abate or even reverse.

For one thing, they said, China's explosive rise as a low-cost manufacturer does not mean that prices will fall year after year. Indeed, China's voracious appetite for oil and raw materials has aggravated inflation by driving up global prices for oil and many commodities.

Beyond that, new research presented this weekend suggested that the United States could not count on a continuation of cheap money from poor countries. Those flows could stop as soon as countries find ways to spend their excess savings at home.

"Medium- and long-term interest rates are set outside of the country,'' said Kenneth S. Rogoff, a professor of economics at Harvard University and a former director of research at the International Monetary Fund. "It's very important to think about what to do if the winds of globalization change.''

The warnings come as the Fed's new chairman, Ben S. Bernanke, faces widespread skepticism among economists about his forecast for a "soft landing" - a mild slowdown that will tame inflation without costing many jobs.

Inflation is already running above Mr. Bernanke's unofficial target - 2 percent a year, excluding energy and food prices - and few analysts here say they believe the Fed will raise rates and slow growth enough to bring inflation down to its target anytime soon.

"They are in a box, and they know it," said John H. Makin, an economist at the American Enterprise Institute and a hedge fund manger. "It's an awkward position for them to be in."

Economists presenting papers at the Fed retreat said that the central bank may be hindered as global trends that have kept inflation and interest rates lower than they would otherwise be turn less favorable.

The biggest change could be an increased reluctance by foreign investors to finance the United States' huge trade gap, now more than $700 billion a year.

"What happens if foreign investors decide they don't want to accumulate American assets any more?" asked Martin S. Feldstein, economics professor at Harvard and president of the National Bureau of Economic Research.

"Something has to change to make the debt more attractive - an increase in interest rates in the U.S. or a decline in the exchange rate of the dollar,'' he continued. "In the short term, the Fed will face slowing output growth, possible with higher inflation."

For the moment, bond investors appear to accept the Fed's view that inflation will remain low. Long-term interest rates have actually edged down slightly since the Fed decided on Aug. 8 not to raise overnight rates.

But economists, including some leading bond investors, predict that inflation will creep higher even if oil prices stop climbing.

"The consensus among people here is that the Fed's real target is not 2 percent but about 2.5 percent,'' said David Hale, an economic forecaster in Chicago. Looking ahead 12 months, if Fed members do not make progress bringing inflation down, "it's going to call into question their credibility,'' he said.

Members of the Federal Open Market Committee, which sets monetary policy, appear torn. In a sign of uncertainty this weekend, Mr. Bernanke and all other senior Fed policymakers were unusually tight-lipped about any of the issues - wage trends, the ability of companies to pass higher costs on to customers, or the plunge in home sales - that are at top of their agenda.

Mr. Bernanke has been arguing that inflation will cool as annual economic growth slows to 2.5 percent, from about 3.5 percent.

But some Fed officials, worried that inflation pressures are becoming more entrenched, want to take tougher action. Jeffrey M. Lacker, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond, voted against the pause in rate increases.

Michael H. Moskow, president of the Chicago Fed, strongly suggested last week that he favored higher rates and declared that the risks of higher inflation were greater than the risks of an unexpectedly sharp slowdown. Mr. Moskow is not currently a voting member of the policy committee, which rotates the regional bank presidents, but he participated in the debates.

Ethan S. Harris, chief United States economist at Lehman Brothers, said the Fed's focus on core inflation understated the challenges posed by international shifts. The focus, he said, includes the price-lowering impact of China's expansion but excludes the impact of higher oil prices. "They've included the part that makes things look better and thrown out the part that makes things look worse," he said.

Officially, the Federal Reserve does not set explicit targets for inflation. But Mr. Bernanke, a longtime champion of inflation targets, has said that his own definition of price stability is to keep core inflation between 1 percent and 2 percent a year.

The Fed's job is not made any easier by the upcoming midterm elections, in which Republicans are struggling to keep from losing control of both the House and Senate.

The Fed has two policy meetings, in late September and late October, before the November elections. The central bank often likes to avoid any interest rate changes immediately before an election, for fear that it will be accused of interfering on behalf of one party or another.

Regardless of what Mr. Bernanke does in the next few months, economists at the conference here said that globalization and the United States' growing foreign debt could make his job more difficult.

Raghuram G. Rajan, the International Monetary Fund's current head of research, presented new research to explain why many poorer countries are now net lenders to rich countries - and why they might change course. He argued that fast-growing poor countries relied less on foreign capital than many nations, and that they saved much more than they invested.

One example is Chile, the most prosperous country in Latin America. Thanks to soaring copper prices in recent years, Chile has paid off its government debt and is running a budget surplus equal to about 7 percent of its gross domestic product. Chilean leaders are putting the surplus into a long-term stability fund, part of which is invested in foreign securities, that will be used to maintain full government operations if copper prices plummet.

Mr. Rajan said many countries might not have a way to channel their excess savings because their banking systems were too underdeveloped. If so, the savings rates of those countries may decline as people become more accustomed to rising incomes and as banks find ways to rechannel savings into consumer and business loans.

Even though capital is flowing uphill to rich countries like the United States right now, Mr. Rajan said, "it doesn't mean these flows are optimal, safe or permanent

Continued

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