Ralph
Musgrave said...
February 28, 2017 at 4:06 PM
Brian,
For the second time, you claimed "Nobody says there is no relationship between supply,
employment, and inflation." My answer is the same as before: what does Brian Romanchuk mean by
saying NAIRU should be "bashed, smashed and trashed". Seems a pretty outright condemnation of
the whole idea to me.
Tom,
You say "Probably better to say that there is no necessary or constant
relationship…". Quite agree. But whoever said there WAS a constant relationship?
Certainly not the Fed. Anyone with a bit brain ought to realise that NAIRU will vary with a
whole host of variables: standards of education, recent unemployment levels (hystersis) and so
on.
EK-H,
You make the naïve mistake many people make of thinking the because something cannot be
measured accurately that therefor it does not have a precise value. The amount of iron in the
Moon has a very very precise value indeed. Ask God how much iron there is on and in the Moon
and he'd tell you the figure to the nearest 0.00000001%. In contrast, astronomers might not
know the quantity to better than plus or minus 10% for all I know. It is therefor perfectly
permissible to write equations or get involved in discussions which assume a very very precise
value for the amount of iron in the Moon. Same goes for NAIRU.
Much of the stuff I've written makes the latter assumption: it is helpful to make that
assumption sometimes.
Auburn
Parks said..
February 28, 2017 at 4:39 PM .
No Egmont, its not about scientific idiocy. Its about the nature of the subject. Economics
is not different than social psychology in this regard.
Ralph-
NAIRU is a specific claim and estimate about the way the economy works. As you discovered
yourself, the Fed literally produces a NAIRU estimate and uses that estimate to determine
policy. NAIRU cannot be estimated accurately, and furthermore there is zero evidence of
accelerating inflation. So there is literally nothing redeeming about the theory except to
say that there is some relationship between supply labor, and inflation. Which is to say,
that your support of the thing is wrong, and all of our criticisms that NAIRU is trash are
correct.
What is the unemployment rate that would correspond to accelearating inflation right now
Ralph?
Auburn Parks said..
February 28, 2017 at 4:42 PM .
The answer is that there is no unemployment rate that generates accelerating inflation. As
inflation is not simply a relationship between unemployment and prices. Inflation is a result
of many different types of inputs.
There are literally zero examples of low unemployment rates, even below 1% during WWII,
that have resulted in accelerating inflation. You and the NAIRU crowd have no legs to stand
on.
AXEC / E.K-H said..
February 28, 2017 at 4:43 PM .
Ralph Musgrave
You say: "You make the naïve mistake many people make of thinking the because
something cannot be measured accurately that therefore it does not have a precise value."
You make the same mistake as all illiterate persons, that is, you cannot read. What I have
clearly stated is: "NAIRU is dead, not because of measurement problems, but because the
underlying employment theory is false."* The measurement problem is a side issue.**
Egmont Kakarot-Handtke
* See 'NAIRU: an exhaustive dancing-angels-on-a-pinpoint blather'
http://axecorg.blogspot.de/2017/02/nairu-exhaustive-dancing-angels-on.html
** See 'NAIRU and the scientific incompetence of Orthodoxy and Heterodoxy'
http://axecorg.blogspot.de/2017/02/nairu-and-scientific-incompetence-of.html
AXEC / E.K-H said..
February 28, 2017 at 5:11 PM .
Auburn Parks
The moronic part of economists, i.e. the vast majority, maintains that economics is a
social science. Time to wake up to the fact that economics is a system science.#1
Economics is NOT a science of individual/social/political behavior - this is the social
science delusion - but of the behavior of the monetary economy . All Human-Nature issues are
the subject matter of other disciplines (psychology, sociology, anthropology, biology/
Darwinism, political science, social philosophy, history, etcetera) and are taken in from
these by way of multi-disciplinary cooperation.#2
The economic system is subject to precise and measurable systemic laws.#3
Egmont Kakarot-Handtke
#1 See 'Lawson's fundamental methodological error and the failure of Heterodoxy'
http://axecorg.blogspot.de/2016/03/lawsons-fundamental-methodological.html
#2 See 'Economics and the social science delusion'
http://axecorg.blogspot.de/2016/03/economics-and-social-science-delusion.html
#3 See 'The three fundamental economic laws'
http://axecorg.blogspot.de/2016/03/the-three-fundamental-economic-laws.html
Tom
Hickey said..
February 28, 2017 at 6:19 PM .
But whoever said there WAS a constant relationship? Certainly not the Fed.
Not now. They had to learn this by first the NAIRU model that assumed a natural rate and
cet. par., and then the difficulty of writing a rule that could be applied across time.
Too many confounding factors involved that are not directly related to employment or the
interest rate.
And there are still people calling for a rule.
Noah Way said..
February 28, 2017 at 7:30 PM .
"Economic science" is an oxymoron.
AXEC / E.K-H said..
March 1, 2017 at 5:39 AM .
Noah Way
You say: "'Economic science' is an oxymoron."
It is, first of all, of utmost importance to distinguish between political and theoretical
economics. The main differences are: (i) The goal of political economics is to successfully
push an agenda, the goal of theoretical economics is to successfully explain how the actual
economy works. (ii) In political economics anything goes; in theoretical economics the
scientific standards of material and formal consistency are observed.
Political economics has produced NOTHING of scientific value in the last 200+ years. The
four majors approaches - Walrasianism, Keynesianism, Marxianism, Austrianism - are mutually
contradictory, axiomatically false, and materially/formally inconsistent.
A closer look at the history of economic thought shows that theoretical economics (=
science) had been hijacked from the very beginning by the agenda pushers of political
economics. These folks never rose above the level of vacuous econ-waffle. The whole
discussion from Samuelson/Solow's unemployment-inflation trade-off to Friedman/Phelps's
natural rate to the rational expectation NAIRU is a case in point.
The NAIRU-Phillips curve has zero scientific content. It is a plaything of retarded
political economists. Samuelson, Solow, Friedman, Phelps, and the rest of participants in the
NAIRU discussion up to Wren-Lewis are fake scientists.*
Egmont Kakarot-Handtke
* See also 'Modern macro moronism'
http://axecorg.blogspot.de/2017/02/modern-macro-moronism.html
Matthew Franko said..
March 1, 2017 at 8:13 AM .
"better to say that there is no necessary or constant relationship between employment and
inflation that can be expressed either as a function or a rule,"
Good line here Tom... they don't have a function...
But I would point out that with the employment issue, we have had an unregulated system
interface (open borders) for decades which is ofc going to result in chaos..
Ralph Musgrave said..
March 1, 2017 at 10:20 AM .
EK-H,
I see: so you're saying the "underlying employment theory" of NAIRU "is false": i.e.
you're saying there is no relationship between inflation and unemployment.
Why then don't you advocate a massive increase in demand. Think of the economic benefits
and social problems solved.!!
Reason you don't advocate that is that, like all the other NAIRU deniers, you know
perfectly well that THERE IS a relationship between inflation and unemployment.!!
AXEC / E.K-H said..
March 1, 2017 at 1:43 PM .
Ralph Musgrave
It would be fine if you could first learn to read and to think and to do your economics
homework.
The point at issue is the labor market theory and the remarkable fact of the matter is
that economists have after 200+ years NO valid labor market theory. The proof is in the
NAIRU-Phillips curve. So what these failures are in effect doing is giving policy advice
without sound theoretical foundation. Scientists don't do this.
What is known since the founding fathers about the separation of politics and science is
this: "A scientific observer or reasoner, merely as such, is not an adviser for practice. His
part is only to show that certain consequences follow from certain causes, and that to obtain
certain ends, certain means are the most effectual. Whether the ends themselves are such as
ought to be pursued, and if so, in what cases and to how great a length, it is no part of his
business as a cultivator of science to decide, and science alone will never qualify him for
the decision." (J. S. Mill)
The first point is that economists violate the separation of politics and science on a
daily basis.#1 The second point is that their unwarranted advice is utter rubbish because
they have NO idea how the economy works. The problem society has with economists is that it
would be much better off without these clowns.
You ask me: "Why then don't you advocate a massive increase in demand. Think of the
economic benefits and social problems solved.!!"
Answer: The business of the economist is the true theory about how the economic system
works and NOT the solution of social problems. This is the proper business of politicians. In
addition, an economist who understands how the price and profit mechanism works does not make
such a silly proposal, only brain-dead political agenda pushers do.#2
What I am indeed advocating is that retarded econ-wafflers are thrown out of economics and
that economics gets finally out of what Feynman aptly called cargo cult science.#3
Economists claim since more that 200 years that they are doing science and this is
celebrated each year with the 'Bank of Sweden Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred
Nobel'. Time to make this claim come true.
The only thing economist like you can actively do to contribute to the progress of
economics is switching on TV and watching 24/365.
Egmont Kakarot-Handtke
#1 See 'Scientific suicide in the revolving door'
http://axecorg.blogspot.de/2016/11/scientific-suicide-in-revolving-door.html
#2 See 'Rethinking deficit spending'
http://axecorg.blogspot.de/2016/12/rethinking-deficit-spending.html
#3 See 'Economists and the destructive power of stupidity'
http://axecorg.blogspot.de/2017/02/economists-and-destructive-power-of.html
Ralph Musgrave said..
March 1, 2017 at 2:14 PM .
EKH,
"The business of the economist is the true theory about how the economic system works and
NOT the solution of social problems. This is the proper business of politicians."
"The business of the economist" is not just "true theory": it is also to give the best
economic advice they can even where the theory is clearly defective. In the case of the
relationship between inflation and unemployment, the EXACT nature of that relationship is not
known with much accuracy, but governments just have to take a judgement on what level of
unemployment results in too much inflation. Ergo economics have a duty to give the best
advice they can in the circumstances.
Re social problems, your above quote also doesn't alter the fact that economists are in a
position to solve HUGE social problems if they promote an increase in demand where that is
possible. So why are you so reluctant to solve those social problems by advocating a huge
increase in demand. It's blindingly obvious.
Like all the other NAIRU deniers, you know perfectly well there is a relationship between
inflation and unemployment!!
David Swan said..
March 1, 2017 at 3:23 PM .
To say that there is "a" relationship between inflation and unemployment does not even
remotely support the claims inherent in the NAIRU, nor does it justify its use to guide the
macroeconomic framework. NAIRU does not claim that there is "a" relationship between
inflation and unemployment (that lesser claim is covered adequately by the Phillips Curve).
NAIRU claims that low levels of unemployment generate ACCELERATING inflation (i.e.
"hyperinflation"), a claim based on pure sophistry and nothing else. If you would like to
support the NAIRU's utterly fallacious claim that low unemployment generates ACCELERATING
inflation, then please provide data to support that claim.
Furthermore, "a" relationship between unemployment and inflation in no way justifies the
central bank intervention of choking off economic growth to prevent "too many jobs". Is the
inflation harmful or benign? With the historical perspective available to us from nearly 5
decades of NAIRU, all that is required is to look at the chart of hourly wage growth vs
productivity and observe that real wages growth took a sharp right turn at the very time
NAIRU was implemented worldwide. There has not been one iota of real wage growth since the
70's (despite low inflation), whereas the real wage grew steadily prior to that (despite
moderate inflation). If that is the price of "protecting" us from inflation, then in what way
is it beneficial to do so?
Brian Romanchuk said..
March 1, 2017 at 3:38 PM .
I see Ralph Musgrave referred to my article again.
Good Lord, how can I make what I wrote simpler to understand?
The DEFINITION of NAIRU is the level of the unemployment rate at which the price level
starts to accelerate. Sure, there's usually another variable in there mucking up the works,
but it's going to be a second order effect in the current environment.
- - If you hand me a time series of the NAIRU, I could demonstrate how the predicted
acceleration does not match observed data.
- - If you cannot hand me such a time series, that is a strong indication that no such
series exists. In which case, you're wrong, and I'm right.
AXEC / E.K-H said..
March 1, 2017 at 4:42 PM .
Ralph Musgrave
You say: "Ergo economics have a duty to give the best advice they can in the
circumstances."
The only duty of scientifically incompetent economists is to throw themselves under the
bus. Economists are a menace to their fellow citizens as Napoleon already knew: "Late in
life, moreover, he claimed that he had always believed that if an empire were made of granite
the ideas of economists, if listened to, would suffice to reduce it to dust." (Viner)
Economists do NOT solve social problems they ARE a social problem.
You repeat your silly question: "So why are you so reluctant to solve those social
problems by advocating a huge increase in demand. It's blindingly obvious."
Yes it is blindingly obvious that deficit spending does NOT solve social problems but
CREATES the social problem of an insanely unequal distribution (see the references
above).
This follows from the true labor market theory which is given with the systemic employment
equation.#1 "The correct theory of the macroeconomic price mechanism tells us that ―
for purely SYSTEMIC reasons ― the average wage rate has in the current situation to
rise faster than the average price. THIS opens the way out of mass unemployment, deflation,
and stagnation and NOT the blather of scientifically incompetent orthodox and heterodox
agenda pushers."#2
Right policy depends on true theory: "In order to tell the politicians and practitioners
something about causes and best means, the economist needs the true theory or else he has not
much more to offer than educated common sense or his personal opinion." (Stigum)
Economists do not have the true theory. They have NOTHING to offer. The NAIRU-Phillips
curve is provable false. Because of this ALL economic policy conclusions drawn from it are
counterproductive, that is, they WORSEN the situation. So, Samuelson, Solow, Friedman, Phelps
and the other NAIRU-Phillips curve proponents bear the responsibility for mass unemployment
and the social devastation that comes with it.
From the fact that the NAIRU labor market theory is false follows that economists are
incompetent scientists and that ALL their economic policy proposals are scientifically
worthless.
Egmont Kakarot-Handtke
#1 See 'NAIRU: an exhaustive dancing-angels-on-a-pinpoint blather'
http://axecorg.blogspot.de/2017/02/nairu-exhaustive-dancing-angels-on.html
#2 See 'NAIRU and the scientific incompetence of Orthodoxy and Heterodoxy'
http://axecorg.blogspot.de/2017/02/nairu-and-scientific-incompetence-of.html
John said..
March 2, 2017 at 9:53 AM .
I've closely followed this NAIRU argument here and on other threads. I don't have a dog in
this fight, but it seems perfectly obvious from all this that Auburn and Brian have this
exactly right. And for the life of me I cannot fathom how anyone can misunderstand their
argument: there may be a link between employment and inflation, but the NAIRU doesn't capture
it. There may be a link between dogs barking at a full moon, but my theory of a moon made out
of green cheese doesn't capture it.
AXEC / E.K-H said..
March 5, 2017 at 5:29 AM .
NAIRU and economists' lethal swampiness.Comment on David Glasner on 'Richard Lipsey and the Phillips Curve Redux'
David Glasner contributes to the NAIRU discussion#1 by reproducing essential content of
his 2013 paper. Back then he propagated Lipsey's concept of multiple equilibria or band of
unemployment (NAIBU) which is consistent with a stable rate of inflation. The NAIBU concept
is a fine example of the tendency of economists to soften, relativize, qualify, and
semantically dilute every concept until it is senseless and useless.
It is the very characteristic of economics that there are no well-defined concepts and
this begins with the pivotal economic concepts profit and income. The habit of swampification
keeps the discourse safely in the no man's land where "nothing is clear and everything is
possible" (Keynes) and where anything goes.
Swampification is what Popper called an immunizing strategy. The beauty of vagueness and
ambiguity is that it cannot be falsified: "Another thing I must point out is that you cannot
prove a vague theory wrong." (Feynman)#2
David Glasner applies the concept of evolution in order to swampify the NAIRU: "The
current behavior of economies … is consistent with evolutionary theory in which the
economy is constantly evolving in the face of path-dependent, endogenously generated,
technological change, and has a wide range of unemployment and GDP over which the inflation
rate is stable."
In other words, presumably there is a relationship between unemployment and inflation but
nobody knows what it is. While science is known to strive for uniqueness, economics is known
to strive for ambiguity and obfuscation. This swampiness is rationalized as realism. After
all, reality is messy, isn't it?
To recall, the Phillips curve started as a simple and remarkably stable EMPIRICAL
relationship between wage rate changes and the rate of unemployment. The original Phillips
curve was reinterpreted and thereby messed up by Samuelson and Solow who introduced the
economic policy trade-off between inflation and unemployment which was finally thrown out
again with the NAIRU.
A conceptional error/mistake/blunder slipped in with the bastardization of the original
Phillips curve that was never rectified but in effect buried under a huge heap of
inconclusive economic shop talk. This means that until this very day economics has no valid
theory of the labor market.
See part 2
AXEC / E.K-H said..
March 5, 2017 at 5:34 AM .
Part 2
So, the microfounded NAIRU-Phillips curve has first of all to be rectified.#3 The
macrofounded SYSTEM-Phillips curve is shown on Wikimedia
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AXEC62.png
From this correct employment equation follows in the MOST ELEMENTARY case that an increase
of the macro-ratio rhoF=W/PR leads to higher total employment L. The ratio rhoF embodies the
price mechanism. Let the rate of change of productivity R for simplicity be zero, i.e. r=0,
then there are three logical cases, that is, THREE types of inflation.
(i) If the rate of change of the wage rate W is equal to the rate of change of the price P,
i.e. w=p, then employment does NOT change NO MATTER how big or small the rates of change are.
That is, NO amount of inflation or deflation has any effect on employment. Inflation is
neutral, there is no trade-off between unemployment and inflation.
(ii) If the rate of change of the wage rate is greater than the rate of change of the price
then employment INCREASES. There is a POSITIVE effect of inflation on employment.
(iii) If the rate of change of the wage rate is smaller than the rate of change of the price
then employment DECREASES. There is a NEGATIVE effect of inflation on employment.
So, it is the DIFFERENCE in the rates of change of wage rate and price and not the
absolute magnitude of change that is decisive. Every PERFECTLY SYNCHRONOUS
inflation/deflation is employment-neutral, that is, employment remains indefinitely where it
actually is. The neutral inflation can start at ANY point between full and zero employment.
The crucial fact to notice is that there is no such thing as "inflation", there are THREE
types of inflation.
The systemic employment equation defines the causal relationship of "inflation" on
employment. However, there is the inverse causality of employment on "inflation".
Common sense suggests that positive inflation (ii) is more probable the closer actual
employment is at full employment and negative inflation (iii) is more probable the farther
away actual employment is from full employment. In other words: the market economy is
inherently unstable. The feed-back loop between employment and "inflation" is the very
antithesis to the idea of equilibrium. To recall, the NAIRU is DEFINED as an equilibrium.
Standard economics has built equilibrium right into the premises, i.e. into the axiomatic
foundations. All of economics starts with the idea that the market economy is an equilibrium
system. It turns out that this premise is false, just the opposite is the case.
Standard labor market theory as it is incorporated in the NAIRU-Phillips curve is not
vaguely true, or evolutionary true as David Glasner maintains, but provable false.
Egmont Kakarot-Handtke
#1 See 'NAIRU: an exhaustive dancing-angels-on-a-pinpoint blather'
http://axecorg.blogspot.de/2017/02/nairu-exhaustive-dancing-angels-on.html
and 'NAIRU and the scientific incompetence of Orthodoxy and Heterodoxy'
http://axecorg.blogspot.de/2017/02/nairu-and-scientific-incompetence-of.html
#2 "By having a vague theory it is possible to get either result. ... It is usually said when
this is pointed out, 'When you are dealing with psychological matters things can't be defined
so precisely'. Yes, but then you cannot claim to know anything about it."
#3 See 'Keynes' Employment Function and the Gratuitous Phillips Curve Disaster'
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2130421
Jerry Brown -> Poison Pen...
February 17, 2017 at 02:18 PM
What country (or planet) are you referring to when you say Workers are primarily stock holders?
It ain't this country.
cm -> Jerry Brown...
February 17, 2017 at 10:44 PM
It is a commentary on a narrative. Of course part of the point of 401(k) and similar plans
is to "align" workers with the company and companies in general, aside from paying them in stock
rather than cash. I suspect it works more so than it doesn't, overall.
Jerry Brown -> cm...
February 17, 2017 at 10:52 PM
Say What?? Are you saying that Poison Pen was being sarcastic? I hope he was. Or are you saying
that narrative is correct?
cm -> Jerry Brown...
February 18, 2017 at 12:03 AM
Sarcasm or satire, yes. I'm not claiming that the narrative is "correct", but that it exists.
Surely you must have heard of "alignment" between shareholders and employees. Usually used to
justify large stock grants to executives, but also applicable more broadly.
Companies have several programs: ESPP (employees can buy a limited amount of company stock
at a 15% discount), 401(k) retirement accounts that may contain company stock or other investment
funds, stock and stock option grants (employees are not buying the stock but get it as part of
a regular or retention bonus program, usually with vesting - commonly your grant will vest over
4 years).
The idea behind all programs involving company stock is (1) disbursing stock is usually cheaper
to the company than cash, for the same nominal amount - for large programs where administration
overhead is amortized, (2) employees are supposedly "incentivized" to act to increase the stock
price.
The latter is believable at higher management levels, for lower level employees it is supposed
to increase their motivation to put business priorities before their own, how much it works is
anybody's guess.
cm -> cm...
February 18, 2017 at 12:07 AM
And in the case of vesting, (3) employees are supposedly reluctant to "leave money on the
table" by quitting before the stock is vested. This must work in aggregate or companies wouldn't
do this.
If somebody absolutely wants to quit because of a bad situation or a sufficiently compelling
offer, they will. But it raises the bar. Also I have heard about companies sufficiently interested
in hiring somebody with "handcuffs" offering compensation, i.e. effectively buying out your unvested
stock (or replacing it with their own extra grant).
Jerry Brown -> cm...
February 18, 2017 at 12:50 AM
Honestly cm, I have not heard about the alignment between shareholders and employees. That
doesn't mean it doesn't exist, I realize that.
Regardless, I would want to see a bunch of stats that showed that workers were primarily (or
"predominately" was the actual word used) stock holders and that they derive a meaningful part
of their yearly income through that ownership while they are working.
I don't have any stats to cite but I would say that is ridiculous. I would say that almost
all people who are characterized as working class make their income through their labor. Not from
some stock ownership.
cm -> Jerry Brown...
February 18, 2017 at 02:25 PM
I am not claiming that workers are primarily stockholders. I am claiming that companies have
programs to issue, or sell stock at a discount, or match 401(k) contributions up to a limit (in
all applicable cases with our without vesting) to their employees. 401(k) and ESPP probably have
to be offered to everybody, stock grants are usually selective. (Probably restricted by grade
level and job function.)
The primary motivations for companies are that stock is usually cheaper for them than cash,
and the retention effect of vesting. Employee alignment with the stock price is also a narrative,
but it is not clear to me who believes it.
Are you disputing that companies are interested in pushing narratives of their labor relations
that are beyond just "you work here and we pay you", and are in fact doing this?
cm -> Jerry Brown...
February 18, 2017 at 02:33 PM
It is supposedly common for startups to pay below-market (compared to established companies)
to their employees, with the promise of appreciation of stock grants after an IPO/acquisition.
Usually that's a bad deal for most employees, as the IPO may not happen, or when it happens, their
stock has been heavily diluted.
In established companies, stock-based compensation can be more substantial for managerial
or professional staff, but not life-changing - e.g. you may get a 5-20% upgrade on your salary
depending on how important you are considered, which is nice, but it will not change the fact
that you still have to show up for work every day.
Almost three and a half years ago, I published a
post about Richard Lipsey's paper "The Phillips Curve and the Tyranny of an Assumed Unique Macro
Equilibrium." The paper originally presented at the 2013 meeting of the History of Econmics
Society has just been published in the Journal of the History of Economic Thought , with a
slightly revised title "
The Phillips Curve and an Assumed Unique Macroeconomic Equilibrium in Historical Context ." The
abstract of the revised published version of the paper is different from the earlier abstract included
in my 2013 post. Here is the new abstract.
An early post-WWII debate concerned the most desirable demand and inflationary pressures at
which to run the economy. Context was provided by Keynesian theory devoid of a full employment
equilibrium and containing its mainly forgotten, but still relevant, microeconomic underpinnings.
A major input came with the estimates provided by the original Phillips curve. The debate seemed
to be rendered obsolete by the curve's expectations-augmented version with its natural rate of
unemployment, and associated unique equilibrium GDP, as the only values consistent with stable
inflation. The current behavior of economies with the successful inflation targeting is inconsistent
with this natural-rate view, but is consistent with evolutionary theory in which economies have
a wide range of GDP-compatible stable inflation. Now the early post-WWII debates are seen not
to be as misguided as they appeared to be when economists came to accept the assumptions implicit
in the expectations-augmented Phillips curve.
Publication of Lipsey's article nicely coincides with Roger Farmer's new book
Prosperity for All which I discussed in my
previous
post . A key point that Roger makes is that the assumption of a unique equilibrium which underlies
modern macroeconomics and the vertical long-run Phillips Curve is neither theoretically compelling
nor consistent with the empirical evidence. Lipsey's article powerfully reinforces those arguments.
Access to Lipsey's article is gated on the JHET website, so in addition to the abstract, I will quote
the introduction and a couple of paragraphs from the conclusion.
One important early post-WWII debate, which took place particularly in the UK, concerned
the demand and inflationary pressures at which it was best to run the economy. The context for
this debate was provided by early Keynesian theory with its absence of a unique full-employment
equilibrium and its mainly forgotten, but still relevant, microeconomic underpinnings. The original
Phillips Curve was highly relevant to this debate.
All this changed, however, with the introduction of the expectations-augmented version
of the curve with its natural rate of unemployment, and associated unique equilibrium GDP, as
the only values consistent with a stable inflation rate. This new view of the economy found easy
acceptance partly because most economists seem to feel deeply in their guts - and their training
predisposes them to do so - that the economy must have a unique equilibrium to which market forces
inevitably propel it, even if the approach is sometimes, as some believe, painfully slow.
The current behavior of economies with successful inflation targeting is inconsistent with
the existence of a unique non-accelerating-inflation rate of unemployment (NAIRU) but is consistent
with evolutionary theory in which the economy is constantly evolving in the face of path-dependent,
endogenously generated, technological change, and has a wide range of unemployment and GDP over
which the inflation rate is stable. This view explains what otherwise seems mysterious in the
recent experience of many economies and makes the early post-WWII debates not seem as silly as
they appeared to be when economists came to accept the assumption of a perfectly inelastic, long-run
Phillips curve located at the unique equilibrium level of unemployment. One thing that stands
in the way of accepting this view, however, the tyranny of the generally accepted assumption of
a unique, self-sustaining macroeconomic equilibrium.
This paper covers some of the key events in the theory concerning, and the experience of, the
economy's behavior with respect to inflation and unemployment over the post-WWII period. The stage
is set by the pressure-of-demand debate in the 1950s and the place that the simple Phillips curve
came to play in it. The action begins with the introduction of the expectations-augmented Phillips
curve and the acceptance by most Keynesians of its implication of a unique, self-sustaining macro
equilibrium. This view seemed not inconsistent with the facts of inflation and unemployment until
the mid-1990s, when the successful adoption of inflation targeting made it inconsistent with the
facts. An alternative view is proposed, on that is capable of explaining current macro behavior
and reinstates the relevance of the early pressure-of-demand debate. (pp. 415-16).
In reviewing the evidence that stable inflation is consistent with a range of unemployment rates,
Lipsey generalizes the concept of a unique NAIRU to a non-accelerating-inflation band of unemployment
(NAIBU) within which multiple rates of unemployment are consistent with a basically stable expected
rate of inflation. In an interesting footnote, Lipsey addresses a possible argument against the relevance
of the empirical evidence for policy makers based on the Lucas critique.
Some might raise the Lucas critique here, arguing that one finds the NAIBU in the data because
policymakers are credibly concerned only with inflation. As soon as policymakers made use of the
NAIBU, the whole unemployment-inflation relation that has been seen since the mid-1990s might
change or break. For example, unions, particularly in the European Union, where they are typically
more powerful than in North America, might alter their behavior once they became aware that the
central bank was actually targeting employment levels directly and appeared to have the power
to do so. If so, the Bank would have to establish that its priorities were lexicographically ordered
with control of inflation paramount so that any level-of-activity target would be quickly dropped
whenever inflation threatened to go outside of the target bands. (pp. 426-27)
I would just mention in this context that in
this 2013
post about the Lucas critique, I pointed out that in the paper in which Lucas articulated his
critique, he assumed that the only possible source of disequilibrium was a mistake in expected inflation.
If everything else is working well, causing inflation expectations to be incorrect will make things
worse. But if there are other sources of disequilibrium, it is not clear that incorrect inflation
expectations will make things worse; they could make things better. That is a point that Lipsey and
Kelvin Lancaster taught the profession in a
classic
article "The General Theory of Second Best," 20 years before Lucas published his
critique
of econometric policy evaluation.
I conclude by quoting Lipsey's penultimate paragraph (the final paragraph being a quote from Lipsey's
paper on the Phillips Curve from the Blaug and Lloyd volume Famous Figures and Diagrams in Economics
which I quoted in full in my 2013 post.
So we seem to have gone full circle from the early Keynesian view in which there was no unique
level of GDP to which the economy was inevitably drawn, through a simple Phillips curve with its
implied trade-off, to an expectations-augmented Phillips curve (or any of its more modern equivalents)
with its associated unique level of GDP, and finally back to the early Keynesian view in which
policymakers had an option as to the average pressure of aggregate demand at which economic activity
could be sustained.
However, the modern debated about whether to aim for [the high or low range of stable unemployment
rates] is not a debate about inflation versus growth, as it was in the 1950s, but between those
who would risk an occasional rise of inflation above the target band as the price of getting unemployment
as low as possible and those who would risk letting unemployment fall below that indicated by
the lower boundary of the NAIBU as the price of never risking an acceleration of inflation above
the target rate. (p. 427)
Edward Lambert
,
August 26, 2013 at 12:57 am
Great article!!! The drum beat continues Productivity is definitely constrained by tight consumer
liquidity from weak labor compensation.
Economists are going to learn a big lesson, when they see unemployment get stuck above 6.7%. They
will try to explain it by pointing to problems in the economy or government. But the dynamic to
limit employment is already established and it is due to low labor share. My calculations say
the limit is 7.0% but I am allowing some margin of error.
The next two years should certainly be enlightening for many economists, including Krugman,
Delong and Thoma. They do not see the effective demand limit coming.
diptherio
,
August 26, 2013 at 9:22 am
Never underestimate an [neoliberal] economist's ability to ignore reality.
Impishparrot ,
August 26, 2013 at 1:08 am
Hello? All talk of policy and regulations have left-out the workers. They make shit and they
buy shit. Without them, how would multi-national corporations be able to afford the lawyers, lobbyists,
members of Congress – both House and Senate, and it would now appear, members of the US Supreme
Court.
Min ,
August 26, 2013 at 3:21 am
"Higher real wage claims necessarily reduce firms' profitability and hence, if firms want to
protect profits (needed for investment and growth), higher wages must lead to higher prices and
ultimately run-away inflation. The only way to stop this process is to have an increase in "natural
unemployment", which curbs workers' wage claims.
"What is missing from this NAIRU thinking is that wages provide macroeconomic benefits in terms
of higher labour productivity growth and more rapid technological progress."
True. But that aside, the original argument is a non-sequitur. Certainly, a fight between labor
and capital over how to share the economic pie can lead to inflation, but it does not follow that
full employment leads to accelerating inflation instead of converging inflation or fairly constant
inflation. The NAIRU argument takes the behavior of capital as given and puts the onus of responsibility
on labor. It amounts to special pleading.
BTW, it is not unusual in human systems to have conflicts that threaten to become a runaway
feedback cycle. But somehow that rarely happens, for reasons that are not always clear. We still
do not understand human systems all that well.
nonclassical ,
August 26, 2013 at 12:48 pm
..Greenspan's (therefore Rand "goddess") ideological position is based upon equal access and
most especially information to markets this "equality" is undone by secrecy, insider trading,
HFT, etc, etc.
In other words, it's all ideological-never existed, anywhere, any time, in reality..
Hugh ,
August 26, 2013 at 4:20 am
In a kleptocracy, looters are not called looters. That might cause the serfs to rebel.
So they are called "creators" instead, and their stolen loot becomes the just and righteous reward
for their work. Indeed it is the manifestation of natural law without which society and the economy
would fall into darkness, etc., etc.
"Greenspan's stance reflected the conventional wisdom , codified in the theory of
the non-accelerating-inflation rate of unemployment (NAIRU). It must take the blame for unleashing
and at the same time legitimizing a vastly unequal and ultimately unsustainable growth process."
NAIRU is not to blame but the looters who espoused it. They are afterall the crafters of
the conventional wisdom. There were no mistakes. As looting-enabling propaganda, NAIRU functioned
exactly as it was supposed to.
"firms want to protect profits (needed for investment and growth)"
No. Firms are inanimate. They do not want anything. Nor is it the case that their managements
want to protect their profits for the purpose of investment and growth. In a kleptocracy, management
wishes not just to keep but increase profits in order to loot them.
The authors of this article, like those they criticize, leave out the social purposes for why
we have an economy and why we allow corporations to exist. Both look on the economy as a natural
process governed by natural laws (that is what this article is about: which laws best describe
the economy), and not the human enterprise it is. The real measure of the economy is whether it
is producing the society we want to live in. Classical measures, such as growth and productivity,
may be irrelevant or even at odds with this construction.
from Mexico ,
August 26, 2013 at 7:23 am
Hugh said:
NAIRU is not to blame but the looters who espoused it. They are afterall the crafters of
the conventional wisdom. There were no mistakes. As looting-enabling propaganda, NAIRU functioned
exactly as it was supposed to.
Exactly!
NAIRU is the perfect example of purpose-driven science, and Milton Friedman et al and NAIRU
rank right up there with the German racial scientists and eugenics and social Darwinism when it
comes to justifying pure evil.
David Lentini
,
August 26, 2013 at 10:06 am
I isn't fair to call NAIRU "science", since it, like economics, isn't scientific in any way.
Science has enough problems without having to take on charlatans like Friedman.
Friedman's work, as exemplified by NAIRU, is pseudo-science used to justify the demands of
the industrtialists and financiers to remove governmental economic regulation. It's an example
of what I like to call "Laissez-Faire
Lysenkoism ", after the
infamous Soviet agronomist who rigged his experiments and data to demonstrate that communism had
a biological basis.
I agree very much with the article's analysis and conclusions. But I want to add two things:
1. The idea that there really is no "Gault" in a modern economy is not new. J.K. Galbraith
described the inherent interdependence between management and workers in his book The New Industrial
State in which he coined the term "technostructure" to describe how modern industry no longer
could realistically claim to run by a single person. Instead, the rise of scientific and business
specialties made nearly all employees of a business vital. No one, especially the CEO, could really
claim to all the profits.
2. I think the question of economic performance is too narrow. The real issue ultimately is
power. At some point, wealth will become so concentrated that the rich won't care about economic
performance; they'll just make vassals and slaves of the rest of us. At some point money per se
will become obsolete, since everything will be owned by a few anyway.
Massinissa ,
August 26, 2013 at 10:22 am
On number 2, I don't remember Feudalists ever worrying about economic growth, except when it
came to how much grain they could extract from their serfs.
It doesn't matter all that much to the ruling classes how much growth there is or not as long
as they control all that there is.
If low growth means easier control, then they will prefer that. Though I must say im not sure
that low growth does mean easier control.
Doug Terpstra ,
August 26, 2013 at 4:43 pm
Dave's close, but you got it! Neoliberal economics is not interested in a dynamic economy,
in optimum output, or in aggregate wealth-creation, and most certainly not in shared prosperity
(egad!). It is only relative wealth that concerns our neoliberal elite.
Relative wealth is the key to power and concentrated wealth to absolute power, the holy
grail. Thus inequality is not an unintended consequence at all; it's the neolibs' actual goal,
a feature not a bug. Power is their ultimate narcotic. And their pursuit of it is relentless and
violent.
I believe this is the elemental nature of our criminal elite that people must understand,
first and foremost, before change is remotely possible. Unfortunately it's difficult for sane
people to comprehend such madness, and they continue to believe people like Obama have a conscience,
that Congress really seeks the greater good, that our warriors really want to avoid war. They
can no more relate to people like Jamie Dimon, Lloyd Blankfien, or Benjamin Shalom than they can
to a pedophile or a rapist. They have no common reference with the enemies of humanity.
David Lentini
,
August 26, 2013 at 5:16 pm
Feudalism wasn't concerned with economic growth and performance. Those ideas came with
the Enlightenment and the Modern eras, and the end of monarchy. My point was to use "vassal" in
the sense of someone who owe allegiance to a master but is not a slave.
As for the other points you made, I was trying make those too: At some point the inequality
makes modern economics irrelevant.
from Mexico ,
August 26, 2013 at 10:37 am
David Lentini says:
I isn't fair to call NAIRU "science", since it, like economics, isn't scientific in any
way.
No true Scotsman, hun?
I think the indictment of science is far broader than mere economics.
from Mexico ,
August 26, 2013 at 10:46 am
And by the way, who gets to decide what is science and what is pseudo-science? How does the
layman tell the difference?
David Lentini
,
August 26, 2013 at 11:28 am
I'll assume that you're not just baiting me. Or are you taking the side of the climate-change
deniers? Try starting with the basic definitions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science
You can also take the time to read the classics of Bacon, Descartes, Newton, et al.
A succinct definition of "science" is not that easy. But I argue that scientific statements
at the least have to be robust-they have to be capable of reliable confirmation i.e., identical
conditions should lead to the same observations, in other words "predictability" (Popper's "falsification"
is a useful rule of thumb); a new theory should be able to explain or describe all relevant phenomena
described by older theories as well as new phenomena to maintain unified explanation.
As I've argued many times on this 'blog, economics fails both tests. Instead economists offer
statements that ape scientific forms, what I call "pseudo-science". They do this out of ignorance
and a desire to cow the public (including scientists).
And we're all entitled to review the facts and make our judgment in light of the definitions
and uses of the term "science".
I don't see your point in attacking science, which you of course never define. I believe that
humanity needs a view of life that is far broader than provided by science alone. But the scientific
view is still vital to our lives. The problem is that far too many have become mesmerized by the
usefulness of science in addressing certain types of questions, and have been trying to force
their own investigations into a scientific mold rather than admitting that the scientific method
cannot address all questions equally well.
from Mexico ,
August 26, 2013 at 3:52 pm
Well for me, the question is still who gets to decide what is science and what is pseudo-science?
- Is it the guy with the most money?
- The guy with the biggest printing press or soap box?
- The guy with the most political power?
- The Nobel Prize committee?
- University professors?
- The person with the most publications?
- The most prestigious and renowned scientist?
The school of hard knocks has taught us that none of the above are trustworthy or reliable.
The historian of science Naomi Oreskes gives a great talk about this phenomenon here:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/virtuallyspeaking/2012/04/12/naomi-oreskes-tom-levenson-virtually-speaking-science-1
This means that one is therefore forced back onto their own lights.
Which brings us back to the question: How does the layperson tell the difference between science
and pseudoscience? I don't know many laypersons who have read Bacon, Newton or Descartes.
And what if they've read Hume, Kant or Nietzsche? Then they come away with a very different
idea of what science is. For example:
Thus, though metaphysics is an illusion from the point of view of science, science in turn
becomes but another state of illusion as far as absolute truth is concerned. In The Birth
of Tragedy Nietzche already attacks the scientific optimism of his time under the guise
of "Socratism." The "theoretic man" pursues truth in the delusion that reality can be fathomed,
and even purged of evil, by rational thought and its applications. But faith in the omnipotence
of reason shatters, for the courageously persistent thinker, not only on the fact that science
can never complete its work but chiefly on the positive apprehension that reality is irrational.
As Nietzsche writes later, "We are illogical and therefore unjust beings from the first,
and can know this : that is one of the greatest and most insoluble disharmonies of existence."
–GEORGE A. MORGAN, What Nietzsche Means
David Lentini
,
August 26, 2013 at 5:24 pm
Mexico, I already answered that question. I really don't care what Naiomi Oreskes thinks; I
think for myself. And I don't have much patience for people who won't make the effort to learn
enough about science to answer the question for themselves.
There's a world of difference between Oreskes's writings about the abuse of science to further
partisan political positions, and the meaning of science itself and deciding what qualifies as
science. Just make the effort to learn and stop quoting everyone else.
As for your quote about Nietzsche, all this argument leaves is the usual relativistic confusion.
And that just invites abuse. Science and the scientific method can be defined well enough to distinguish
reliable claims from charaltanism. If you want absolutes, you might just as well accept what the
most powerful tell you to accept.
from Mexico ,
August 26, 2013 at 8:39 pm
Oh I get it!
You get to decide what science is and what pseudo-science is.
It's like Humpty Dumpty said:
'I don't know what you mean by "glory",' Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. 'Of course you don't - till I tell you. I meant "there's
a nice knock-down argument for you!"'
'But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument",' Alice objected.
'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what
I choose it to mean - neither more nor less.'
'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'
'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
–LEWIS CARROL, Through the Looking Glass
OldFatGuy ,
August 27, 2013 at 12:10 pm
Yes, someone does get to decide. Because there ARE universal truths, like it or not.
For example, the world is not flat. Period. All the relativism in the world won't change the
fact that the world is NOT flat.
Arguing against fact doesn't make one some sort of relativist intellectual (is that a term??)
it makes one WRONG. And the only way humanity can ever transcend chaos is to acknowledge those
truths that are universal. We, as a species, are still nowhere near there, and it's like trying
to play a baseball game with no foul lines, basees, umpires, or even a ball. Yes, if life were
like a baseball game there are entire groups of people today that argue it can be played without
a ball. We'll never get beyond this chaos and into a peaceful order until we all get on more or
less the same playing field, and the only way to do that is to acknowledge truths (or rules, like
foul lines, in baseball).
Science is but one avenue to identify those truths. There are others.
David Lentini
,
August 26, 2013 at 11:06 am
Mexico, you made the claim that NAIRU was "purpose-driven science". I countered with the
point that NAIRU was pseudo-science and that economics is not a science. Neither statement has
anything to do with indicting science.
If you argue about flaws in science, whatever that means,n then start a new thread.
Hugh ,
August 26, 2013 at 2:59 pm
Science is a method, but what that method is applied to and how its results are interpreted
are not. Science is also a human activity and so must be viewed through the lens of our humanity,
not as objective truth external to us.
allcoppedout ,
August 26, 2013 at 4:33 am
Lord save us! Humans are biological systems and such systems have all kinds of modularity to
protect various sub-systems and the overall system from collapse.
So where is a modular economics?
Growth? What's that? A sensible, scientific notion of it would be a system that raises everyone
a lot, curtails rich by-products that capture politics and load the many with economic rents,
educates to planet level responsibility, reduces work and squalid energy burning and related wars
We should be seeking stability and incorporating real well-being and a new understanding of
growth. Growth as we have it is a Gucci handbag while others live on a squalid jack tuna boat
earning almost nothing for your fish, eaten with a fancy T-shirt on proclaiming 'save the dolphins',
served with salad picked by migrant workers to keep your figure trim along with the coke you snort.
What growth should be one of the first questions of economics, followed by how we might create
a modular financing of what we should be doing. Without such, no subject.
Aussie F ,
August 26, 2013 at 7:33 am
In reality all the dynamism is in the state sector – from the internet, to superconductors,
pharmaceuticals, biotechnology, containerisation. 'The market' just deals with copyright and marketing.
diptherio
,
August 26, 2013 at 9:30 am
Does this mean it's time to stop wearing my NAIRU jacket?
David Lentini
,
August 26, 2013 at 11:31 am
Only if it's a NAIRU straight jacket. :-)
libezkova -> pgl...,
February 18, 2017 at 05:34 PM
pgl,
This is all about mathiness and corruption of neoliberal economist, which is a real Fifth Column
of financial oligarchy no question about it. With unemployment measures irrevocably corrupted
by political pressures, how one can be talk about validity of derivatives based on them, unless
he/she is drunk ?
In this sense NAIRU is yet another sophisticated neoliberal fake that help to drive the public
policy in the interests of financial oligarchy under mathiness smoke screen and a bunch of corrupt
neoliberal economics serving as a propagandist army of financial oligarchy.
It's time to revamp the old quote changing it to " When I hear the term NAURU...I reach for
my gun!."
If course it would be too cruel to shoot all neoliberal economists, so reeducation camps should
probably be considered.
I think only U6 has some connections to reality. And the discrepancy between official and Gallup
value of U6 is 4%
In other words only the first digit is probably valid and the range is 10 to 20%.
== quote ==
For January 2016 the official Current U-6 unemployment rate was 10.1% up from last month's 9.1%.
On the other hand the independently produced Gallup equivalent called the "Underemployment Rate"
was 14.1% up from 13.7 in December and 13.0% in November. The current differential between Gallup
and BLS on supposedly the same data is 4.0%!
marcus nunes : ,
February 17, 2017 at 12:44 PM
Alternative "NAIRU bashing":
https://thefaintofheart.wordpress.com/2015/02/14/why-insist-on-searching-for-the-holy-grail-aka-nairu/
RGC : ,
February 17, 2017 at 04:11 PM
SWL is becoming aggressively neoliberal. There is no sound theoretical basis for NAIRU and no
empirical reinforcement:
Time to Ditch the NAIRU
James K. Galbraith
The Journal of Economic Perspectives, Vol. 11, No. 1. (Winter, 1997), pp. 93-108
http://tek.bke.hu/files/szovegek/galbraith_time_to_ditch_the_nairu.pdf
pgl -> RGC... ,
February 17, 2017 at 04:37 PM
SWL strikes me as someone who goes well beyond the usual neoliberal laziness. Is that what you
mean by "aggressive"?
RGC -> pgl... ,
February 17, 2017 at 04:45 PM
In reading his blog lately it seemed that he was very defensive about his economics and also angry
at the Corbyn wing of Labour.
marcus nunes : ,
February 17, 2017 at 12:41 PM
"How do we link the real economy to inflation"? NAIRU a waste of time. Try aggregate nominal spending
growth
http://ngdp-advisers.com/2017/02/08/fantasy-world-conventional-central-bankers-money-no-role/
libezkova : ,
February 18, 2017 at 06:17 PM
Sorry Anne, but neoliberal economists are really prostitutes of Financial oligarchy. Well paid,
of course.
That's where NAIRU comes from. Phillips curve is a joke and always was. It's king of sad that
it still mentioned in in non--humorous context:
https://thefaintofheart.wordpress.com/2012/07/20/seven-years-on-things-still-look-the-same/
The NAIRU essentially presupposes the existence of the wage-price spiral. Which can happen
only if wages are either indexed to inflation by law, or there are strong trade unions to defend
workers rights. Under neoliberalism both are those factors are suppressed and can be viewed as
non-existent.
And the statement that the NAIRU myth belongs to the vocabulary of charlatans does not deviate
from the serious character of the discussion. This is just a historical truth.
Hot of the presses: "Debunking the NAIRU myth" January 19, 2017 By Matthew C Klein
https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2017/01/19/2182705/debunking-the-nairu-myth/
== quote ==
First, some history. In 1926, Irving Fisher found a relationship between the level of unemployment
and the rate of consumer price inflation in the US. In 1958, AW Phillips studied UK data from
1861-1957 and found a relationship between the jobless rate and the growth of nominal wages, although
the relationship seems to have been an artifact of the gold standard given the vertical line he
found in the postwar period:
Some people (wrongly) interpreted Phillips's data to mean that there was a straightforward
trade-off between the inflation rate and the unemployment rate. Policymakers could just pick any
spot on "the Phillips Curve" they want. Among a certain set, the big debates in the 1960s were
about whether the government should target an unemployment rate of 3 per cent or 5 per cent.
This worked out poorly, but the reaction took the form of an equally dubious idea: the Non-Accelerating
Inflation Rate of Unemployment, or NAIRU. In this view, the change in the inflation rate should
be related to the distance between the actual jobless rate and some theoretical level. If the
unemployment rate were above this "neutral" level the inflation rate would slow down and potentially
turn into outright deflation. If the jobless rate were "too low", however, consumer prices would
rise at an accelerating rate.
Suppose you believe NAIRU is a real thing. What would be the argument against pushing the unemployment
rate as close to zero as possible? In theory, the cost of the policy would be ever-accelerating
inflation, eventually perhaps leading to hyperinflation. But the reason to dislike excessive inflation
is that it ultimately makes everyone poorer, which should, among other things, increase unemployment.
(Just look at Venezuela, for a recent example.)
According to the wacky world of NAIRU, however, hyperinflation can coexist just fine with hyper-employment.
Clearly there must be other mechanisms at work, or else we are leaving money on the table by allowing
the jobless rate to ever rise above zero.
== end of quote ==
Some comments are interesting too:
grputland, Jan 22, 2017
To test the NAIRU hypothesis against historical data, shouldn't we plot unemployment vs. change
in inflation? -- instead of CHANGE in unemployment vs. change in inflation?
Be that as it may:
If there is such a thing as a NAIRU, it is still a mistake to treat the NAIRU as a "given"
rather than a function of policy.
If a certain tax feeds into prices, it leaves less room for wages to feed into prices before
(according to NAIRU logic) inflation accelerates. So any tax that feeds into prices will tend
to raise the NAIRU. This is especially the case if the tax causes the cost of labor for employers
to be higher than workers' take-home pay.
Thus the NAIRU, if it exists, is not a counsel of despair, but rather a counsel to get rid
of taxes that feed into prices (especially taxes on labor) and replace them, as far as necessary,
with taxes that DON'T feed into prices -- that is, taxes on economic rents.
marcus nunes , Jan 20, 2017
NAIRU - RIP
https://thefaintofheart.wordpress.com/2015/02/14/why-insist-on-searching-for-the-holy-grail-aka-nairu/
Contrapunctus9, Jan 20, 2017
Many variables contribute to the inflation rate, certainly more than just domestic employment
(and how it is calculated). The Fed's dual mandate is inflation and employment, so it makes sense
that these are a focus of the Fed's communication. But the Fed tends to focus on the result rather
than the cause. It is troubling that there is little discussion from most of the FOMC on inflation
factors which are now more important than unemployment (currency values, foreign labor, technology,
commodity demand and speculation, labor monopsony, underemployment, labor skill demand mismatch,
etc).
Producer and consumer prices are increasing, largely due to China driven commodity prices.
Managerial compensation and production hourly wages are increasing. But weekly wages are stagnant
due to fewer hours. The Fed is ignoring the latter, even though it is what is more important to
sustained core inflation.
Observer, Jan 19, 2017
Looking just at the U3 unemployment rate for the NAIRU without considering the still high U6
rate and lower labour participation rate in the US may be the issue. There's still labour market
slack even though U3 is at its "full" employment level.
grumpy, Jan 19, 2017
Models have to be used with caution (they are only tools) and interpreted with awareness of
the real world - including for example, the varying wage bargaining power of labour, which is
different, post globalisation, to what it was in the '70s.
Who do you think wanted globalisation and liberalisation of trade, and why?
Many economists revere their models excessively.
By: Matthew C
Klein
It's important to try to estimate the unemployment rate that is equivalent to maximum employment
because persistently operating below it pushes inflation higher, which brings me to our price
stability mandate. –Janet Yellen,
January 18, 2017
A little more than half the income generated in America is paid to workers and most of the money
spent in America goes to personal consumption. So it's reasonable to think there is some relationship
between the health of the job market and other important macro variables.
And, in fact, there is a robust connection between the change in the unemployment rate
and the change in the real value of money spent on employee compensation per working-age American
since the mid-1980s:
That chart shows the link between two real variables that have a logical connection to each other.
The question for NAIRU believers is: why should a purely real variable (unemployment) have any bearing
on a purely nominal one (inflation)?
In particular, is it reasonable to think there is an unemployment rate below which inflation necessarily
gets faster and above which the pace of consumer price increases slows down? And even if there were
such an unemployment rate at any point in time, would it be stable enough to be useful for policymakers
concerned with smoothing the business cycle?
Many, including Federal Reserve boss Janet Yellen, seem to think the answer is "yes", but the
evidence points the other way, particularly since the mid-1980s.
First, some history. In 1926, Irving Fisher
found
a relationship between the level of unemployment and the rate of consumer price inflation in
the US. In 1958, AW Phillips studied UK data from 1861-1957 and
found a relationship
between the jobless rate and the growth of nominal wages, although the relationship seems to
have been an artifact of the gold standard given the vertical line he found in the postwar period:
Some people (wrongly) interpreted Phillips's data to mean that there was a straightforward trade-off
between the inflation rate and the unemployment rate. Policymakers could just pick any spot on "the
Phillips Curve" they want. Among a certain set, the big debates in the 1960s were about whether the
government should target an unemployment rate of 3 per cent or 5 per cent.
This worked out poorly, but the reaction took the form of an equally dubious idea: the Non-Accelerating
Inflation Rate of Unemployment, or NAIRU. In this view, the change in the inflation rate
should be related to the distance between the actual jobless rate and some theoretical level. If
the unemployment rate were above this "neutral" level the inflation rate would slow down and potentially
turn into outright
deflation . If the jobless rate were "too low", however, consumer prices would rise at an accelerating
rate.
Suppose you believe NAIRU is a real thing. What would be the argument against pushing the unemployment
rate as close to zero as possible? In theory, the cost of the policy would be ever-accelerating inflation,
eventually perhaps leading to hyperinflation. But the reason to dislike excessive inflation is that
it ultimately makes everyone poorer, which should, among other things, increase unemployment. (Just
look at Venezuela, for a recent example.)
According to the wacky world of NAIRU, however, hyperinflation can coexist just fine with hyper-employment.
Clearly there must be other mechanisms at work, or else we are leaving money on the table by allowing
the jobless rate to ever rise above zero.
In case this argument seems strange, consider the following exchange the Fed had on this very
topic back in
July 1994 (emphasis added):
MR. LINDSEY. If we ran the model out, do we believe that if we applied some social rate of
discount, the losses in output later on would be more than, less than, or equal to the gains in
output in the short run [from letting inflation accelerate]?
MR. KOHN. The model itself doesn't have, I don't believe, losses in output from higher inflation
rates.
MR. LINDSEY. Ever? We never have a net loss in output resulting from a choice to go for inflation?
MR. PRELL. It does not take, in terms of a normal simple cost of capital calculation, a very
big inflation differential to get you a net loss in the present value in the long run.
CHAIRMAN GREENSPAN. The argument as to why we get a net loss is "the Federal Reserve will react–do
something." But the question is, we are the Federal Reserve and why should we react if that's
true?
MR. LINDSEY. If we don't believe that the present value of output in this economy will be lower
by letting inflation alone, then we should let inflation go up. It's as simple as that Do we believe
that printing money will increase the present value of output?
MR. BLINDER. Yes, I think we would. I believe that printing money will give the economy a temporary
high that will not last and therefore in the integral sense that you said, yes, you get a larger
integral of output over an historical period, if you never decided to end it–if you never said,
when you got to 10 percent inflation, whoops, that wasn't very good, and you went back to lower
inflation.
CHAIRMAN GREENSPAN. Yes, but why would you conclude that at that point when, because as Ed
Boehne says, 11 percent is still better?
MR. BLINDER. If 11 percent is better than 10 percent, if there's no cost to inflation–I am
a little bit surprised at the tenor of this conversation around here! [Laughter] There is some
academic content that is–
CHAIRMAN GREENSPAN. In all seriousness, the question really gets to the models. Why would you
believe that there is a cost of increased inflation from the models?
Greenspan never got a straight answer to his question but the consensus was that models based
on NAIRU are basically wrong. Tellingly, it was
none other than Janet Yellen who wrongly worried the unemployment rate was "too low" in the mid-to-late
1990s and would cause inflation to accelerate.
As it happens, the data don't support the idea of NAIRU either, at least not since the mid-1980s.
The test would be to compare changes in the unemployment rate against changes in the inflation rate.
If NAIRU made sense, there should be a strong inverse relationship between the changes in the two
series. And yet:
Regressing changes in core inflation against changes in the jobless rate gets you an r-squared
of 0.11, which is basically meaningless. Moreover, that result is purely a product of the data points
in the blue circle, which all occurred during the teeth of the financial crisis and could be blamed
on the co-movement of employment and commodity prices. Take those out, and you end up with two perfectly
unrelated series:
You get similar results if you use headline inflation rather than core inflation.
The intellectual confusion over the relationship between unemployment and inflation was especially
salient during the Fed's own policy debates in the aftermath of the crisis. The unemployment rate
rose by 5 percentage points between mid-1979 and late 1982. It also rose by 5 percentage points between
early 2008 and late 2009. Moreover, the jobless rate stayed above 9 per cent through first nine months
of 2011.
The Fed staff expected this would produce massive disinflation, or even deflation, yet it never
happened.
By the
January 2011 FOMC meeting , it should have been clear the old models weren't sufficient. Instead
of ditching the NAIRU concept, however, the Fed's staff and many of the regional presidents tried
to rehabilitate it by arguing the NAIRU had changed. (There were lots of reasons provided, including
the extension of unemployment insurance benefits and skill mismatches.)
With the admirable exception of Richard Fisher at the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, the overwhelming
consensus was that the crisis had raised the "non-accelerating inflation rate of unemployment" by
about
1.5 percentage points :
Moreover, everyone except Fisher and the New York Fed's Bill Dudley thought the crisis produced
such long-lasting damage that the NAIRU would still be higher by 2015 (!) than it was before 2007.
In reality, of course, the Fed has been forced to steadily revise its NAIRU estimates lower as the
unemployment rate gradually normalises and inflation remains quiescent. The net effect was this rather
ridiculous chart:
NAIRU isn't just a useless concept, it's a counterproductive one that encourages policymakers
to focus on the jobless rate as a means to an end (price stability) even though there is zero connection
between the two variables. The sooner NAIRU is buried and forgotten, the better.
Policy Tensor, 17 hours ago
Matthew, there's strong evidence that what drives US inflation (and more generally DE inflation)
is not domestic slack but global slack. See
https://policytensor.com/2016/12/17/global-slack-us-inflation-and-the-feds-policy-error/
grputland, Jan 22, 2017
To test the NAIRU hypothesis against historical data, shouldn't we plot unemployment vs. change
in inflation? -- instead of CHANGE in unemployment vs. change in inflation?
Be that as it may:
If there is such a thing as a NAIRU, it is still a mistake to treat the NAIRU as a "given"
rather than a function of policy. If a certain tax feeds into prices, it leaves less room
for wages to feed into prices before (according to NAIRU logic) inflation accelerates. So any
tax that feeds into prices will tend to raise the NAIRU. This is especially the case if the tax
causes the cost of labor for employers to be higher than workers' take-home pay.
Thus the NAIRU, if it exists, is not a counsel of despair, but rather a counsel to get rid
of taxes that feed into prices (especially taxes on labor) and replace them, as far as necessary,
with taxes that DON'T feed into prices -- that is, taxes on economic rents.
Drago Jan 21, 2017
@ Ralph Musgrave So according to Galileo Galilei the earth is a perfect sphere. Great news.
So presumably he believes there's some magical force of nature that keeps us all from falling
into space, and apparently one can travel in a straight line and end up exactly where he departed.
Never read such twaddle.
Ralph Musgrave, Jan 21, 2017
@ Drago
@ Ralph Musgrave Totally daft response to my points - but what I'd expect from the anti-NAIRU
brigade. But for the benefit of the latter cerebrally challenged brigade, I'll spell out what
I mean in more detail. I'd honestly appreciate a detailed and intelligent answer.
NAIRU is the idea that there is a relationship between inflation and unemployment: specifically,
when demand rises and unemployment falls, inflation will at some point also rise (assuming the
rise in demand continues).
Klein & Co claim that NAIRU relationship does not exist. That means, unless I've missed something,
that if unemployment falls and continues to fall, inflation WILL NOT RISE, (because, to repeat,
according to Klein & Co there is no relationship between inflation and unemployment).
Ergo it should be possible to implement a very large rise in demand plus a very large fall
in unemployment, and according to Klein & Co there will be no automatic rise in inflation. Now
what have I missed?
Drago Jan 21, 2017 ;
@ Ralph Musgrave
@ Drago MCK perhaps went too far in saying that there is zero connection between inflation
and unemployment, but the rest of his points stand.
And regarding my previous reply, I was merely alluding to the fact that what is intuitive is
not always what is true.
NeilW@MMT Jan 22, 2017
@ Ralph Musgrave "So presumably he favors bumping up demand to the point where unemployment
almost vanishes"
There won't if you hold the level of competition high and using buying power to stop price
rises taking hold. The key is for a significant purchaser to refuse to trade at any suggested
higher prices which then starves the system of aggregate demand forcing either innovation or failure.
And you do that directly rather than trying to do it indirectly by trying, and failing, to price
loans higher.
In a tight labour market the capital/labour ratio gets better which forces replacement of jobs
with machinery and improved methods. If you can't get the staff you have to get cleverer with
the ones you have.
Inflation is people trying higher prices and having them confirmed by market purchases. So
you set up the system so it refuses to confirm them which forces time serialisation on the market
at a lower price.
Everybody knows that the labour market pricing is controlled by trying to keep a pool of people
out of work and not producing. It is a very sick design that impoverishes many, many people. And
the policy concept on which it is based is a belief system, not even science. You can't see them.
You can't measure them. You just have a bunch of 'Very Clever People' who make them up based upon
what they feel and what they believe.
Far better to have a pool of people employed outside the private sector at a fixed living wage
which the private sector has to bid against to get any labour. Then the labour market is always
'tight' against the living wage and excess bids of labour wages fall back to the living wage when
the businesses fail. Both of which allow you to keep business competition white hot intense -
which is what controls prices and drives productivity.
marcus nunes
Jan 20, 2017
NAIRU - RIP
https://thefaintofheart.wordpress.com/2015/02/14/why-insist-on-searching-for-the-holy-grail-aka-nairu/
Contrapunctus9 Jan 20, 2017
Many variables contribute to the inflation rate, certainly more than just domestic employment
(and how it is calculated). The Fed's dual mandate is inflation and employment, so it makes sense
that these are a focus of the Fed's communication. But the Fed tends to focus on the result rather
than the cause. It is troubling that there is little discussion from most of the FOMC on inflation
factors which are now more important than unemployment (currency values, foreign labor, technology,
commodity demand and speculation, labor monopsony, underemployment, labor skill demand mismatch,
etc).
Producer and consumer prices are increasing, largely due to China driven commodity prices.
Managerial compensation and production hourly wages are increasing. But weekly wages are stagnant
due to fewer hours. The Fed is ignoring the latter, even though it is what is more important to
sustained core inflation.
JustSmith Jan 20, 2017
Mr Klein, your work is usually excellent, but this, I am afraid, is very poor. Your regression
analysis does not test for labour market slack (unemployment minus NAIRU); you do not discuss
how the unemployment rate can be an imperfect measure of labour market slack if the structure
of the labour market changes; no one has ever assumed the NAIRU is constant and policymakers are
well aware of the pitfalls of using an unobservable quality; the Philips curve can shift and indeed
monetary policy making is in no small part about trying to judge under what conditions it may
shift.
Drago Jan 20, 2017
@ JustSmith Trying and failing....
Observer Jan 19, 2017
Looking just at the U3 unemployment rate for the NAIRU without considering the still high U6 rate
and lower labour participation rate in the US may be the issue. There's still labour market slack
even though U3 is at its "full" employment level.
Brito , Jan 19, 2017
" The test would be to compare changes in the unemployment rate against changes in the inflation
rate."
Wait what? That doesn't test for NAIRU, that simply tests the Philips Curve, but the NAIRU
and the Philips Curve is not the same concept.
"zero connection between the two variables."
What? How can there be zero connection? If the labour market becomes very tight, firms have
to raise wages to attract workers. Are you saying wages cannot impact prices? That would be a
bizarre claim. Wage price spirals are an observable phenomena. And what about simple supply &
demand? At some point you're not going to be able to employ enough additional people to supply
the rising demand for your product, this increased scarcity is likely to result in higher prices.
NeilW@MMT Jan 22, 2017
@ Brito "If the labour market becomes very tight, firms have to raise wages to attract workers.
Are you saying wages cannot impact prices?"
Or do without the person, or invest in capital to replace the labour - because the capital/labour
ratio just changed. Both of which drive productivity. Which is what we want.
Tight labour markets drive innovation, and if you keep the level of competition active at the
front end then prices remain stable.
grumpy Jan 19, 2017
Models have to be used with caution (they are only tools) and interpreted with awareness of
the real world - including for example, the varying wage bargaining power of labour, which is
different, post globalisation, to what it was in the '70s.
Who do you think wanted globalisation and liberalisation of trade, and why?
Many economists revere their models excessively.
marcus nunes Jan 19, 2017
Yellen in the 90s and today
https://thefaintofheart.wordpress.com/2015/11/09/yellens-unchanging-beliefs/
marcus nunes Jan 19, 2017
For laughs:
https://thefaintofheart.wordpress.com/2012/07/20/seven-years-on-things-still-look-the-same/
user8347 Jan 19, 2017
What a silly piece. NAIRU, like many economic concepts, requires a ceteris paribus clause. Your
unconditional evaluation of hypothesis is naive at best. If you're having a surge in productivity
due to, say, tech, or globalization, all else is not equal.
Drago Jan 19, 2017
@ user8347 Regardless, even if such a thing as NAIRU exists, its value can only be estimated post
factum, which makes it completely useless for policy purposes.
Ralph Musgrave Jan 23, 2017
@ Drago
@ user8347
There's a whole string of other relationships in economics which cannot be estimated with any
sort of accuracy. For example it is widely accepted that devaluation will sooner or later improve
a country's balance of payments, but no one really claims to know by how much and by when. So
what do we do: abandon currency re-alignments as a method of rectifying external surpluses or
deficits?
And again, it is widely accepted that interest rate hikes curb demand, but no knows with any
great accuracy exactly by how much. What do you suggest: abandon interest rate adjustments?
Postkey Jan 24, 2017
@ Ralph Musgrave
@ Drago
@ user8347
"What do you suggest: abandon interest rate adjustments?"
Maybe?
"The funny thing is: they haven't. In fact, among the more than 10,000 research articles produced
by the major central banks in the two decades prior to the 2008 crisis, none explored the correlation
or causation between nominal interest rates and nominal GDP growth. Fortunately, this task is
not very demanding, and once we conduct such an examination, we conclude that, in actual fact,
there is no evidence to back these assertions whatsoever. To the contrary, empirical evidence
shows that the central banking narrative on interest rates is diametrically opposed to the observable
facts in two dimensions: instead of the proclaimed negative correlation, interest rates and economic
growth are positively correlated. Secondly, the timing shows that interest rates do not move ahead
of growth, but instead are either coincidental or even follow it."
https://professorwerner.org/shifting-from-central-planning-to-a-decentralised-economy-do-we-need-central-banks/
yellowbrickroad Jan 26, 2017
@ Ralph Musgrave This is gold standard thinking Ralph. There is no balancing payment of gold
to send to China any more.
Instead China's pounds are sitting in an account in London, right alongside yours and mine.
What difference does it make to anything if for instance China were to buy something for you and
now those Pounds sit in your account rather than China's??
What do you think that changes..?
Your neighbours bought Chinese TV's and now China is sitting on a bunch of Pounds it can't
easily spend - except on property, and educating the children of the wealthy. The incorrect thinking
that 'we need to get those Pounds back' just means that we're more likely to sell vital infrastructure
to China.
How is that a good response? We're NEVER going to export as much to China as China exports
to us, and selling them our vital infrastructure is the result the flawed logic of thinking that
moving numbers from one account to another account in London is something we 'need' to do in order
to balance things up.
What if you could erase your old misassumptions Ralph? Rather than falling back on automatic
mistakes.
Viewed correctly, the Pound IS the export, and the trade already balances. It's just that we
don't happen to measure it this way.. yet..
Ralph Musgrave Jan 26, 2017
@ yellowbrickroad
@ Ralph Musgrave Your comment is totally an completely unrelated to the above article and
to my comments. Never mind being right or wrong: you haven't the faintest idea what this debate
is about.
Drago Jan 26, 2017
@ Ralph Musgrave
@ Drago
@ user8347 It's not a binary choice...
doodle Jan 19, 2017
Isn't the point that the NAIRU theory is based on the concept of a wage-price spiral which is
only sustainable in a situation where wages are either indexed or there are strong trade unions?
With the rise of the precariously employed, in the services sector, even if there are many other
minimum wage jobs in town, the threat to leave is not going to result in meaningful pay increases.
Ralph Musgrave Jan 23, 2017
@ doodle
I suggest there is a NAIRU type relationship even absent trade unions: i.e. trade unions just
boost or amplify the relationship. In other words, even given no trade unions and no employment
protection, if there was a ridiculously large increase in demand (e.g. a ridiculously large helicopter
drop), demand for labour would sky-rocket, and you'd get bumper wage increases and inflation as
every employer scrambled to get labour to meet demand.
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